What 80's Band Are We? — Intentionally Blank Ep. 263

Peter Orullian and Brandon Sanderson find out who their spiritual 80's bands are.  Alongside their musically-challenged moderator, they confront a quiz that will force them to truly consider their rock feelings. See who these two authors could have been on this episode of Intentionally Blank! Also, check out the new book Songs of the Dead, available now!

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SPEAKER_00 0:04

All right, we have Peter back. Hi, Peter. Hello, Brandon. Peter O'Reullian, co-author with me of Songs of the Dead, which is out now. We talked about it a ton last week, so we're not gonna we're not gonna beat you over the head with it again. But it's a good book. You should go check it out. Today, Peter and I are going to take a wonderful quiz that Donald found for us. Which 80s rock band are you? Or belong in. Both of them. Or belong in. Or belong in. Or belong in. Yeah. So where do you think you're gonna end up?

SPEAKER_02 0:33

This is hard for me because me and all my friends listened to nothing but New Wave. You remember New Wave until the night we were out like just Dragon State, which is what we did in high school. And I heard Round and Round by Rat. Okay. And it's like my brain found the music it never knew it needed. Uh-huh. And I from thence forward was a rock and roll guy. So, like part of me says it would have to be rat because they're responsible for my rock and roll life. But if dream theater gets included, like you think of the 80s as the hairbands, right? It will be dream theater because for me they are there's dream theater and then there's the rest.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

I think this quiz is going to be more superficial than that. Okay. Just in my experience of how these go. I think they're going to ask us things like, you know, what drinks we like, what clothing we wear, and things like that. And I think Did you have a by-level? Yeah, I think that I'm going to end up like who's the most boring band ever. I'm going to end up whoever that is, because my answer is I'm not very metal, right? I'm not very rock and roll. I enjoy the music, but me myself, so I think I'm going to take this quiz and they're going to be like, you don't belong on this. You got to be, you gotta be off being somebody else. Either that or I'll end up in like somebody who dresses normal, even though they have cool music, like Weezer or somebody like that, right? That's my guess.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Or spin up Emily's Gordon Lightfoot.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Yeah. They'll be like, Well, what why are you here? Go back to disco. And I'll be like, no disco. Were you in the no disco era? I remember this. As in the 90s and stuff, I listened to disco, late 90s. I'm like, this is good stuff. Why was everyone telling me death the disco?

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Even KISS did the disco album.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Yeah. But back in the the 80s, it was like, uh, you listen to disco, then you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

So what if what are considered the big bands of the 80s? This is such a me question. Look, I'm a 20-something year old. I want to know. I'm just being safe.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Wow. Okay. So if you're talking rock and roll, Bon Jovi has got to be in the Bon Jovi.

SPEAKER_00 2:31

So I mean Metallica is on the heavier side, but their strongest albums were in the 80s. Okay. And uh, but who's the biggest of the 80s? It's probably like your Bostons and your journeys and your your guys like that that are like really mainstream crossover power. But you also had U2. U2 is odd because they had three careers. Yeah. Maybe four. And then, you know, Jackson was the number one seller, but he's not a band. So who you know, who was the number one band? I don't know who it was of that era, but that's who were. ACDC and Twisted Sister and some of these guys kind of represent the 80s and in the look and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

So yeah, when you get, I mean, it's interesting. I've been going back to some of the new wave stuff I used to listen to, and there's surprisingly more guitar in a lot of it than I thought there was. I was a big fan of Tears for Fears.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Okay, Tears for Fears, good. Rush was actually 80s, but we pretend Rush wasn't the 80s because they're actually alternative during the 80s before alternative became a thing.

SPEAKER_02 3:36

Well, and they they went through stages. They did. They had a whole sort of 80s stage where there was a lot more synthesizer and it was a little softer.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Sticks. If I'm gonna pick like a this is the eighties band lady, but they list Queen Durand Duran or the cure. I would look at like Durand Duran, yes, but the cure feels more like a nineties band to me. Yeah even though they were, you know, but but we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

We'll see how these uh questions.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

I think that's because the the goth movement really hit in the nineties and the cure was one of their things. Yeah, well, the other thing that happened in the 90s was grunge. Yeah. Well, the problem is the 90s is split into multiple musical eras because a lot of the biggest 80s albums actually came out in like 90, 91, 92, until like well, when was it 91, 92, until Grunge killed it? Yeah, until Nevermind came around and killed the hair band.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

I was moving to Seattle in '93. I lived up in Salt Lake, and we were kind of a Queen's Rykian type of band, and we were kind of at the top of the pecking order in Seattle for playing the clubs. And I remember again, dragging state, we heard Teen Spirit. Yeah. Smells like Teen Spirit. And we all like, oh no. Like it was catchy. Yeah. And it was already getting traction. But by the time we got to Seattle, because we moved there, you know, it was them and Pearl Gem and Allison Chains and Soundgarten. And it's like the shift was like seismic and fast. It was. There was a lot of 80 bands who all of a sudden didn't have careers.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

When did Nevermind come out? Can you look that up for a chance? That's shift number one. But then kind of like the Green Day new punk movement came out of the grunge movement and then alternative that morphed into alternative. And then there was that weird Rockabilly stage where for a year everyone was listening to Rockabilly and Swing. So the 90s were an odd and at the end of the 90s, New Metal. Yeah, then New Metal, and then we get Evan Escence going, yeah. Yeah, and Lincoln Park. So I still love a lot of that new metal stuff. And so there's some do you like the new Lincoln Park album? Yeah, I think it's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Yeah, I'm not one of these purists that think you can't, you know, alter the lineup and still have great music. I mean, look at Van Halen.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yeah. Yeah. Van Halen had my favorite song of the 80s, but I think it was released in the 90s. It was top of the world. Yeah. So nevermind was 91. 91. All right. So all right, let's do this actual thing because we've been chatting forever.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Yeah, we're chatting. Alrighty. Number one, what's your go-to outfit as the night out? Brandon, you want to read what our options are?

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Leather jacket and ripped jeans, neon spandex and leg warmers, black turtleneck and skinny jeans, colorful blazer with shoulder pads.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

That last one is the new wave thing.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

I mean, I I wear a blazer, so I have to have colorful blazer shoulder pads. It's the closest to what I actually wear.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Right. Mine is I actually wore leather jacket and ripped jeans. Okay. That's not even like a that's exactly what he was.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

My best friend growing up through high school, that's what he wore.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

It's so funny. I've still got those jeans, and my kids are like, dad, they're in fashion now. My son wears all my clothes from back then.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Right. Yep. So all right.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Okay. Number two. Which instrument would you most like to play in a band?

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Electric guitar, synthesizer, bass, or drums. What am I wanting to play? What's most likely to me? I was a trumpeter in high school, and so I have to pick electric guitar or synthesizer for melody, right? I don't think I can pick bass or drums. Yeah. So closest to me, I'm just gonna go with the generic guitar because trumpet is like the electric guitar of right? It's the generic instrument that has the melody. Right. An electric guitar, I'm just making sure. Yeah, I'm gonna go electric guitar.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

All right, what do you got, Peter? Well, I'm I'm bummed there's not a vocals thing, because that would be but it would be guitar. I mean, you know, when you go to the the show, you're watching the vocalist or the guitarist usually.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

All right, yeah. Electric guitar. Synthesizer's number two, but yeah. That's close. Alrighty.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

What's more important to you in a song? Killer guitar solos, catchy synth hooks, deep and meaningful lyrics, high energy vibes. What do I really listen to? I want to say deep and meaningful lyrics, but I can't honestly say it. Okay. Because like there are a lot of songs where I listen to them and I'm like, actually, it's aren't any good. Right. Or I listen to more often and I'm like, wow, the lyrics are actually good to this song. Right? So I'm gonna say catchy synth hooks. I'm the synth hooks. That's probably what gets me. It's either that or the solos, but I think it's the synth hooks that actually get me. Like I mentioned sticks, I had all the sticks albums, and that's catchy synth hooks right there, the band. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Oh, this one's hard for me. Because I really care a lot about the lyrics. I mean, you're a dream theater guy, you've got to care about meaningful, important music. The lyrics matter a lot to me, but it also kind of makes it sound very emo. I think I'll say guitar solos because across those various like changes we talked about, yeah, the guitar was always a feature. Like I've been listening to Vito Brata, he's the guitar player for White Lion. He's a very Eddie Van Halen style guitarist. So, yes, I'll go with guitar solos.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Yeah, that's that's close to me because Van Halen was my favorite band of the 80s. And but they also, I mean, jump catchy synth hook. So yeah. They do so much, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

And they do some really fun songs like that big bad sweet William now. You know, it's just out of nowhere. David Lee Roth can actually play the guitar passingly well.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Indeed. I can't say anything. I'm such an EDM head. I'm just like, yes, oh, you're you're an EDM guy? EDM is my like.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

It is the one genre of music I can't quite fully understand. And I really might be because I can't dance.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

For me, it doesn't come down to the dance aspect. I think the ADHD part of me is just like this has a consistent rhythm, but there is enough noise to that rhythm that it all combines into like a perfect succinctness. Working while playing with EDAM is like the most soothing way to do it because it takes out all the distraction. It's like, cool, the music took away the distraction. They're festival, huge. Yes, crazy. Oh sorry for distracting. Anyway, we want to read this one and uh sure.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

How would you describe your personality? Rebellious and wild, fun-loving and energetic, moody and introspective, or charming and flamboyant.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

This is hard for me because I'm definitely not rebellious and wild. I feel like I'm fun-loving but not energetic. I'm introspective but not moody. I hope that I'm charming, but I'm not flamboyant. But I think I have to, yeah. Well, what do you I've been thinking first?

SPEAKER_02 10:09

I'm gonna say rebellious and wild because in I was a very, very good church-going boy as a young kid. I was a bit rebellious to my parents' consternation in my teenage years, exactly when I found Rat and all the little stuff. And then I I straightened myself up a few years later.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

So I think I'm gonna have to go charming and flamboyant. Okay. Just because for my group, right, I do flamboyant things, like you know, you could call the Kickstarter flamboyant that we did, and things like that. And so I think for my group of moody introspective people, I'm the charming and flamboyant one. Right. But I've now said two things that are just gonna end me up in a band that I'm not, yeah. What do you mean? It'll be great. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be like what's that I'm gonna be like KISS or somebody like that. Like, but Kiss is 70s, but Kiss is also 80s. I don't know. All right, which 80s movie speaks to the most? Breakfast Club, Back to the Future, Heather's Top Gun. Oh, for me, it's Breakfast Club. It's Back to the Future for me.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

I mean, easy picks. I watched Breakfast Club. I had a VHS tape of it, and there was a period of a few months where I watched it every day.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Wow. Yeah, crazy.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

Breakfast Club is a good film, except for the whole, you know, like it's Molly Ringwald, right? Yeah, and she's like cute, and then they make her she gets a makeover at the end, and you're like, whoa, whoa, no, this is this is not now. You look preppy. Yeah, like yeah, it's such a weird film in that regard, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

But that's I was a fan of remind me of the filmmaker. I just blanked his name. John Hughes. John Hughes.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

I was a fan of a lot of his for Breakfast Club Breakfast Club. Oh man, I'm gonna make sure I don't mess this one up. I'm gonna look it up. You're right. It's John Hughes. Okay. It's the Mechus for Back to the Future. That's correct. But yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Top Gun would be a close second to Top Gun's a good film.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

But if you sat me down now or in the 80s and said which one do you want to watch? I would watch Back to the Future. Same. Both times.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Did you watch the new Top Gun?

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I did. It's really good. I really love it. It's like way better than the old Top Gun. That's when the old Top Gun is good. I thought so too. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah. Well, so here was my question. Since we're on Top Gun, does the new one just make the other one worse because it improved on the formula so much?

SPEAKER_00 12:19

No. Okay. The problem is that people remember Top Gun the movie as being something other than what it is. Top Gun the movie is not about airplanes. Top Gun the movie is about dealing with the grief of my passing friend and having to transition into adulthood from being a punk kid. And there's some airplanes in it. Right now, Top Gun Maverick is about let's see how cool it is to fly airplanes and also deal with some of these things. Right. It's the movie everyone remembers Top Gun being. Top Gun is a good film, is just not what people think it is. And they made a version now that is the movie people think it is. It doesn't make the old one a bad movie. You just have to know what Top Gun is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

It's a college film, not a 80s pilots film. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

Okay. The other thing I liked about the first one is he did have the little bit of this thing where he's trying to live out from underneath the ambiguity of his father's shadow. Yeah. It was a nice sort of sub subplot. But that you know, I remember all of the girls in our high school desperately wanted their boyfriends to be able to do that kiss that Tom Cruise does where he grabs her by the by the back of the neck and just like it's so passionate. Standing on his Apple box.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Um that's right, because what's her name was quite a bit taller than he was. Yep. What's your ideal performance venue? Oh, you get to do this one.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Yep. Oh, sold out stadium. You gotta gotta read the app. All four. Oh, sorry. Yep. Sold-out stadium, intimate club, underground venue, television broadcast. So television broadcast is I wouldn't care about that. All of the others are great. I've done all those. Well, I haven't done a sold-out stadium, but I did the biggest show I ever sang was about 9,000 people. And there is a an energy and an experience of doing that, especially when the people know the song and they're singing it with you. I mean, you've experienced a degree to that because you do big crowds. But those little clubs where the person is like feeling your spit when you're that's uh that's a cool thing too.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

So you're gonna go sold out stadium. Um see, here's here's the question television broadcast reaches more people than the sold-out stadium. And my goal is like reach as many people as possible. I think I'm gonna do television broadcast. It's not very metal of me.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Yeah, well, I mean, most of those guys did wind up on Ed Sullivan's show.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Now, this is gonna push me toward being on you know MTV Live or whatever that that show was that they did. So this is gonna push me toward boy band. This is gonna push me toward boys to men. Oh, they're 90s, but boys to men was our era.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

Boys to men, yeah. I will say that that series that MTV did, the Unplugged, was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Unplugged was cool, but I'm talking about the morning one where they're in like live and they came on and played where Nirvana was so no, is it Nirvana? Somebody was so mad they couldn't actually play their instruments and they're anyway. I'm talking about the no Unplugged was awesome. Yeah, but that was VH1, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 15:12

No, it was MTV, but what they would do is is they would create the ambiance. Yeah, and there'll be a few people. That what you're talking about, it's the studio lights, and it's a very antiseptic. So you got these rockers like trying to create the vibe with a studio audience that's you know, yeah. But you are right in terms of reach. Yeah. I mean, that's what made the Beatles go from they were already big, but when they got on the Ed Sullivan show, it just went nuts.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Can I ask you a silly question, Peter? Yeah, which is if you're in a sold-out stadium, you obviously have all the people singing. Can you hear yourself singing at that point? Like, are you just in it so much that it doesn't really matter?

SPEAKER_02 15:46

No, you can. In the old days, it was primarily reference monitors that were you know set up so that you had a stage mix and you could dial that up as loud as you wanted for your particular instrument. Now most of the groups use in-air monitors, and it's the same deal. They can dial in their mix so they can hear their instrument sort of above the rest of the musicians. It also frees up a lot of space and sort of sound um blending with the house sound. So, yes, you can always hear. In fact, I prefer my voice singing live to recorded.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Oh, okay. Yeah, there you go. Alrighty, question seven. All right. Your band's signature look would include tons of leather and studs, bright and bold colors, monochromatic and sleek styles, big hair and eye-catching makeup.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

You can almost read the music genres in that one.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go monochromatic and sleek styles. It's gonna push me away from being a hair band, but this is what I wear.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

So I'll probably say, well, gosh, I didn't really wear tons of leather and studs. And whenever I read that, I I sort of see like Rob Halford. And I like Judas Priest, but that's not my look. I'll probably say big hair. I didn't wear the makeup, but I had really big hair in the 80s.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

All right. You said that these are clearly like referencing things. What are they each referencing?

SPEAKER_02 17:04

So the bottom one is the hairbands. Yes. The 80s hairbands.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

That and I've had a couple of hairband answers, so yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Tons of leather and stuff is the to me is the dye hard metal. Yeah. It's the metallica, it's the real metal. The bright bold and colors is probably the new wave stuff. The monochromatic and sleek styles is probably like the goth stuff, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yeah, or it's that alternative that started starting up then and whatnot, or some of that, some of that Europop looks like that too, right? From that era. Okay. The more you know. Alrighty, number eight.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

This one's you. Which describes your group of friends? A tight-knit group of rebels, a fun, outgoing crowd, a group of deep thinkers, or a diverse mix of unique personalities.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

This one's hard for me because you can argue that all the kids in the science fiction club were a tight-knit group of rebels. Right? Because but they're also a group of deep thinkers. Maybe not as deep as they think. But they're also a diverse mix of unique personalities. This one's hard. I know I'm not a fun outgoing crowd. I hang out with the introverts. So what are you?

SPEAKER_02 18:20

You get an answer first. I'm gonna go with number four, a diverse mix of unique personalities, because the first meaningful band I was in, the one I was talking about before, our keyboard player was an absolute like new wave guy. We had a thrash metal guy, we had a prog guy, we had a guy that was in the University of Utah marching band, who's our drummer, and then there was me, and I'd been listening to Poison. Okay, and the hair stuff. So we were like all we were a weird mix of musicians to throw in a room, but it turned out great until the drummer stole the money from me.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I'm gonna give uh my friends what they would want and pick a group of deep thinkers. I don't think they see themselves as rebels. Fair enough. How many questions is this?

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I think we go to ten.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Okay, great. Yeah, yeah. All right. All right, we're on nine. Brandon, I think this is you. How do you celebrate after a successful concert? Party all night with fans, have a chill hangout with the band, reflect on the performance alone, hit up the hottest club. I am reflecting on the performance alone. I am heading back to my hotel room. I'll say have a chill hangout with the band.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

That's what I would like to say, but I know what I would do. Yeah. That's we actually did that. We we never did the big party all night thing. But we would find sometimes it was Denny's because Denny's was open all night. And we'd order up fries and uh what have you, and just kind of, you know, relax.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Did you ever have people who are at the gig show up at Denny's too?

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Yeah. We developed a bit of a cult following. Our the name of our group was Continuum. And that, you know, back in those days there was probably four or five real rock clubs in Salt Lake. And every weekend we were at one of them. We kind of got to that altitude. Right. So we had fans, you know, we were selling merch and all of the things, and there was a group that were they they knew where we would go. Like they knew if we were playing one particular club, it's right next to Denny's that that's where we would be. And it was okay. I, you know, we were happy that they were there. But you know what the funniest thing is, Brandon, is our keyboard player recorded all of those live shows. And so now I go back and I listen to my stage banter. It's so terrible, so terrible. I mean, comically terrible, like a spinal tap thing, right? Yeah. So, you know, we thought we were so awesome and cool, and my stage banter was just so terrible.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

You've seen that video of uh Billy, what's his name? Corrigan, the eating chips on stage. You'll love it. Like he just, it's actually kind of cool, but in this sort of like, so it's going into like a solo, like a drum solo or something, so he's not singing. So he just wanders over. They've got a little thing of chips, and he just starts eating them. And he just it's like, I do not care. I'm I'm eating my I'm eating my chips on stage while this is going on. Yeah. And it's he's got one of the better music podcasts now.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Does he? Yeah. He and because of who he is, he gets on amazing guests. And it's it's usually musicians, but he can get almost anybody. He's had on guys from Sabbath. Wow. Yeah, he gets the real deal. Dang. Alrighty.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

We'll go to the last question. Okay. Number 10. Favorite 80s music moment. Oh no. This is hard because we talked about how much I love the live aid performance by Queen. Yeah. But MTV's debut was a pretty big deal for me.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

And the birth of Synth Pop and then the Rise of Glam Metal. Yes, those are the other two, right? Birth of Synth Pop and the Rise of Glam Metal.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

That one's really hard for me. I will say MTV's debut. Yeah. Rise of Glam Metal's close because some of those bands are they were sort of my gateway to the music. But like one of the cool things I remember about MTV is in the beginning there were no commercials. But they would do these fun things where they would like do 10 minutes of just product shots, like tires and mailboxes and all this crazy stuff that like non sequiturs, but no like endorsement for anything. Yeah. And it was like almost mocking the advertisement.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

I'm gonna say MTV's debut as well, but I don't I wasn't there live for it. What year was that? Will you look up um because I know they played Money for Nothing as the first video? Was that the first one? Yeah, which is just a fantastic video, right? That's their first video. Yes, from what I'm seeing. It's also 1981. Now you are yes, because so I'm six, right? Yeah. Like MTV, I wasn't there for it. But by the time I was like 10 or 11, it's when people really started to get cable. Like when MTV first came out, a lot of people didn't have cable. It was not a thing. And as you started to get the cable, and it was really formative to me. It's like I love live, but I wasn't there either, right? Like it's not like either of these were actual moments that I was part of. I was still too young. Also, I should say the first video they did play, I got it wrong, was Video Killed the Radio Star. Yeah. There was something about Money for Nothing, but video killed the radio star. Yep. I've also heard that. But I've heard something about Money for Nothing. Maybe the comments can tell us. It did, but it's like, why have I heard that that one was the first? Because I I've also heard that. Right. And it's it's quite appropriate, but had video killed the radio star by the time MTV happened? I'll look it up. I don't think it had, right? No. MTV is what killed the radio star. Right. And so So 79 was when it released. Yeah, I know it released, but I'm just like, it's funny because video hadn't really killed the radio star yet, I don't feel. No. They didn't know what they were pre-saging with that song.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Right. I had to go to my friend's house to watch cable because we didn't have it. But we'd sit there for hours and watch MTV. Yeah. I'm a little older than you. So like I remember like it was this big deal. Back then, too, those VJs, as they called them, they would play this like weird mix of everything. Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

It was even like John Denver. And a lot of them were like hugely popular celebrities. Yeah. Like Pauly Shore was a legit celebrity, not an ironic celebrity. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

All right. Before we get a result, I have to ask, as the 20-something year old, what was live aid? I know the term wow.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

So tell me if I'm wrong. Live aid is they decided to have a benefit concert for Africa. Okay. Specifically, I think the AIDS crisis. No. I think it was food. Food for Africa. Yeah, you think aid because of live aid, but it was for food. Okay. And they got a bunch of just fantastic, like their lineup was incredible. Okay. And this was like like you'd had the mega concert before. Woodstock, obviously, was like the mega concert, but this one was televised.

unknown 24:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

And that was like a big difference, and it got everybody. But then they had some technical difficulties. And what actually made Live Aid was they had some technical difficulties. Some of the bands came on and played, and it didn't quite work, not their fault, but you could sense their frustration and things had gone a little wrong, and they were losing the crowd. Okay. And then Eddie Mercury, Freddie Mercury, Eddie Van Halen, Freddie Mercury, and Queen come on. And Freddie Mercury doesn't start singing. He starts warming up the crowd. He starts doing some some like some echo things with the crowd, and he starts playing to them and he starts getting them and then plays a set that just blows the roof off of this place, doesn't have a roof, but and becomes one of the most iconic moments in all of music history instantly. And so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

I just watched Bohemian Rhapsody. I didn't see it in the theaters. And they do a good job of showing that. Okay. And it's kind of cool because he had split from the band and they sort of came back together to play this show. Oh. But it was the who's who. Like every major artist was there. But when they came out, and forget the name of the actor who played all of it. Yeah, he nailed it. He did. Yeah. I mean, he was the guy in I'm blanking on everything. But anyway, if you haven't seen Live Aid, you should go watch it because you can watch it. Yep. But that show does a really good job of the sort of backstory that gets to that moment that Brandon just described.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

What year was Live Aid? According to this, 1985. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Because that one I remember, and I was assuming I remembered it correctly that I was old enough. But yeah, because I was worried if it was like 81, then it's a false memory. I knew I wasn't there for MTV, but I remember Live Aid. Like it was a huge deal. It was broadcast like everywhere, or at least the highlights were. And I remember watching parts of it on TV. But again, it I don't know I was there live for it. Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

I didn't see it like live broadcast. I've seen it obviously in sort of syndication. But it set the stage for We Are the World. Yep. Oh, which was the big next one. Yeah. Have you watched the making of that? No. There's some great video where you get to see how they recorded it and the various artists doing multiple takes on their spot. It's, I mean, for me, it's just so fascinating. I'm a huge C. Perry fan. Okay. And so you get to see him do his thing, Cindy Lopper, all those people, Huey Lewis. And then the next one, which is much lesser known, a bunch of heavy metal singers did one called We're Stars. It was another benefit. And it's, you know, Jeff Tate and Rob Halford, like all the great heavy metal singers. It didn't get quite the air time that the others did.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

All right. All right. Let's see. Let's see. All right. What do we get? Let's see what we get. All right. It's thinking. It's thinking. Don't crash on us. Yeah. All right. Technology, come on. You can do it. All right.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

There we go.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Okay. All right, Brandon, who'd you get? I got Duran Duran. All right. I'm not terribly surprised by Durand Duran because I gave a few, like, you know, the colorful shoulder pads is coming back. And the flamboyant is coming back at me. But I don't know. I gave a lot of non-Duran Duran. You got I got Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi's a good match for you. Yeah. Like if you're going to have one of these pop bands, then yours is, you know, Durand Duran's a great band. A great band. Good musicality. These are both great bands. But I had more Bon Jovi albums than I had Duran Duran albums. I knew when I was giving my questions I wasn't going to get my music taste. But apparently I am Duran Duran. What's your favorite Durand Duran song, Brandon? Uh I can name my favorite Bon Jovi song. Durand Duran. It's probably that new one from the 90s. Ordinary World. Ordinary World when they when they kind of had their little comeback because I was buying a lot more of albums in the 90s than it was in the 80s. And isn't Come Undone?

SPEAKER_02 28:51

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

On that. Is that that Durand Duran? I remember Ordinary World. Ordinary World. I think that was album name three, wasn't it? So for Come Undone. Come Undone. So Come Undone, I had that album. And it was the B side of that was Ordinary World. Okay, yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna have to say Ordinary World, but it's not 80s Duran Duran.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

My favorite is probably Morning After. Is that the title? Okay. Don't say a prayer for me now, save it till the morning after. I remember the title of the song. That's my favorite Duran Duran song.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

I also like Hungry Like the Wolf. But see, Bon Jovi also like some of the 90s stuff as well, right? Like my first C D I bought, not album, because the first C D I bought was the Young Guns soundtrack, which was John Bon Jovi, not Bon Jovi. But then I quickly bought his new album that has Blame It on the Love of Rock and Roll on it. And to this day, I think that's my favorite Bon Jovi song is Blame It on the Love of Rock and Roll. But that's 90s too, isn't it? That's 90s also. Again, I was buying albums in the 90s. I was 1990, I'm 15. Right. So I'm listening to a lot of the radio, but I don't have a car when I'm in the 80s. Right. And like I'm listening to the radio at home, but it's the 90s when I have a car. I get to choose my own station. I get to like control the radio. Right. So I think my first actual thing that I bought was Thriller on cassette, but that was given to me. I think the one that I bought myself was uh November Rain. I heard that on the drive down. Whichever album that is, use your illusion one, maybe. That hasn't yet November Rain on it. Maybe it's User.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Use Your Illusion. Yeah. So all right, Peter, you gotta tell us your favorite Bon Jovi song. Favorite Bon Jovi song. There are a lot of good choices.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Sometimes I get tripped up on the title. But it's Say Goodbye. Never say goodbye. It's a power ballad. Yeah. I was a sucker for the power ballads. You know, I like the heavy stuff too, but just I like when he had his second career also.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Bon Jovi had a He cut his hair and yeah, early 2000s. Uh revival of Bon Jovi had a couple It's My Life was a really good song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

I remember when that came out, my kids were like, I was telling them I listened to these guys in high school. They're like, no, this is new.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

So they've been around a while. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my kids all listen to ACDC and Metallica right now. There you go. You're raising them right. Yeah. Oh, that's not me. That's just what kids listen to nowadays. Their music tastes are really eclectic. They go between all different genres a lot more because of Spotify just playing things for him. Ollie really likes like glitch hop, uh, and he really likes just kind of uh the YouTube stars, and he uh really likes good kid. He's wearing his good kid swag right now. So went to the concert last night. Was it last night? Yeah, or two nights ago. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, got home at like one and he's 13. His brother was with him, and his cousin, who's like legit adult, was there being legit adult for them. So all right, hey, thanks. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, Songs of the Dead.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Because I was I was a aficionado of those hair bands. So Songs of the Dead is out. Uh, how's that, Ben?