Interview With Brian Proctor

Have you ever wondered how hugely successful people got that way?  How they go from struggling to find their niche, to living the life of their dreams?

In today’s episode of Your Personal Power Pod, we have the honor of talking with Brian Proctor, inspirational speaker, son of Bob Proctor, and the author of a new book titled, My Father Knew the Secret – Growing Up with Bob Proctor. Brian shares his journey from being a kid who was inspired by his Dad, to figuring out how to apply this knowledge to his own life, and to then be able to share this wisdom with the world.

You can find his book and more at BrianProctor.com

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Transcript

E 81 Interview with Brian Proctor

[00:00:00] Shannon: Welcome to your personal power pod, a podcast about aligning yourself with the life you want. And here are your hosts, Sandy Abel and Shannon Young.

[00:00:20] Sandy: Shannon, how are you 

[00:00:21] Shannon: today? Sandy, I am so jazzed about today. We are doing something really 

[00:00:27] Sandy: special. How are you? I am feeling the very same thing. Today we're talking to Brian Proctor. Oh my gosh. Brian is the son of Bob Proctor and is the author of the bestselling book, My Father Knew the Secret, Growing Up with Bob Proctor.

[00:00:41] Sandy: He is also just an amazing human being and a good friend, and it's such an honor to have him with us today. 

[00:00:49] Brian: Well, thank you very much. It's great to be here with you 

[00:00:51] Shannon: both. I feel especially honored to get to chat with you literally an hour and a half or so after your very first [00:01:00] webinar. Your father is known to a global audience because he was an incredible public speaker in person as well as online, and I noticed during your webinar this morning that you made a comment that.

[00:01:11] Shannon: It was a little jarring to you to see your face on the screen, where usually it is his face on the screen. Tell us how today 

[00:01:18] Brian: was for you. It was kind of surreal. It was enjoyable. It was kind of a bonus for everybody that had purchased my book. I was going to do just a live Q and A. We had a lot of people on the call, some great questions.

[00:01:31] Brian: It was great. It felt really good. I felt like I was honoring my father while honoring who I am as well. I actually really, really enjoyed this morning, and I enjoyed the conversation with everybody that was there. Well, and I 

[00:01:41] Sandy: like that you're honoring yourself as well as your dad. I've listened to a lot of podcasts with you on them as the guest and everybody wants to talk about Bob and the book and all that stuff, which is important.

[00:01:52] Sandy: It's great theory, philosophy, all those things that guide your life. There's Brian too. I'm glad [00:02:00] that you felt good about being you. 

[00:02:02] Brian: I did. It's nice honoring my father, who he was and what he taught. And it's great sharing it from my perspective. You know, a unique perspective that people are looking for.

[00:02:12] Brian: So, yeah, it felt good. We both 

[00:02:13] Shannon: read your book as people who talk about self esteem and where it comes from a good portion of our life. I think we both really appreciated that it sounds like you were always supported in who you were as a kid. That your dad was very conscious of reinforcing. You being you and making you feel valued.

[00:02:33] Shannon: How would you describe growing up as Bob Proctor's 

[00:02:35] Brian: son? My earliest memory of Dodd is when I was a kid, when he would tuck me in the bed. Talk about building a self image. If he was in town, he would be the one that would tuck me into bed at night. And this is really my earliest memory. I don't know how old I would have been, but very, very young.

[00:02:49] Brian: He would sit on the side of the bed, put his hand on my chest so there was a physical connection. He would basically just go through the day and share all the good things that happened for me that day. If there was any challenges, he would [00:03:00] have me look for the good in those challenges and the good that came out of it.

[00:03:03] Brian: And then he would always end it by saying, Brian, you are capable of being, doing, or having anything you want in this world. You're going to have a wonderful sleep. And when you wake up in the morning, you will feel wonderful. You'll have a big smile on your face and you're going to have a great day.

[00:03:17] Brian: Looking back on it now, you know, what a great way to be brought up. Oh, yeah. I was able to do exactly the same thing with both of my kids. When my kids were going through teenage years, I never had any troubles with them. They were always good. They were great kids. Now, I have grandchildren, and my daughter is doing the same thing with her children.

[00:03:35] Brian: Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, it's just something that started that's now working its way down generations. It's a great way to grow up. 

[00:03:42] Sandy: Now, where did Bob learn that? Was he raised in a family that was positive? 

[00:03:46] Brian: The honest answer is I don't know where he got it from. Probably something he was studying at the time.

[00:03:51] Brian: I don't believe dad was raised that way. He was very, very close to his mother. I called her Nan. She was a really special lady and she and dad had a great [00:04:00] relationship. I don't know a lot about my dad's father. He was in World War II and I guess when he came back, they didn't know what PTSD was at that time.

[00:04:07] Brian: You know, that's probably what he had. He was a different man and he was not really in my father's life much, so it was just his mother. For him growing up, his mother was always working. She had to do whatever she could to keep food on the table. You know, I don't believe dad was brought up that way, but obviously he learned it somewhere and it was probably in a study.

[00:04:25] Brian: He was a devout studier of positive material, so that's probably where he got it from. Right, 

[00:04:31] Sandy: and passed it on to you, and you pass it on to your kids, which is just beautiful. 

[00:04:35] Brian: Yeah, it's a good way to live, that's for 

[00:04:37] Sandy: sure. So many people struggle with self esteem and claiming their personal power. Have you ever had those struggles?

[00:04:43] Brian: Well, I would say I have. I can't say that I've never had the struggles. The times that I had struggles is when I wasn't being true to me. That's the best way to describe it. I will say it didn't happen often, but it has happened. And for me, [00:05:00] the best way to get out of those times was to forgive myself.

[00:05:04] Brian: Sometimes we punish ourselves for things that we've done or are doing that we know we shouldn't be doing, but we did it anyways. And then sometimes, you know, we get in this negative self talk loop of what we've done to ourself. Well, we need to forgive ourselves sometimes and realize that what has happened in the past is in the past.

[00:05:22] Brian: We can't change it. But we can change who we are right now in this very moment, if we live in the here and now. And if we start to be the best version of us, we can build our self image into whatever we want it to be, no matter what's happened to us in the past. That's the way I look at it anyway. Yeah, it's 

[00:05:38] Sandy: very wise.

[00:05:39] Sandy: I'm curious, when you were 13 and doing the teen years and all that, were you self confident and knew who Brian was? Most teenagers really struggle with that because they're trying to figure out who they are. Yeah, 

[00:05:50] Brian: I was always pretty good with who I was. I don't really ever remember struggling with it too much.

[00:05:56] Brian: I wouldn't say I was always the most confident of teenagers, but I [00:06:00] wasn't not confident either. I guess growing up with Bob Proctor, I was aware of things. Most people aren't even aware if they don't have a good self image, or if they do or not, or even really think about it. Whereas I was always made to be aware of it.

[00:06:13] Brian: So I think once you're aware of what it is you want, no matter how you are, that you know you can change it, you are the one that owns the power to change. I think that's what makes all the difference in the world. And I think for everybody that's listening to this, you may not have known that previously, but as of right now, you have the power to change how you see yourself.

[00:06:33] Brian: Dad always had a fun statement, he always said it's none of my business what other people think of me. I think that's the way I've started to look at life, it's none of my business what other people think of me. And quite frankly, most people don't think that much of us anyway. 

[00:06:44] Sandy: Now they think about themselves, most people do.

[00:06:47] Sandy: Exactly, yeah. Do you have 

[00:06:49] Brian: siblings? I do, I have a brother and a 

[00:06:51] Sandy: sister. Do they have the same kind of self esteem and confidence that you do? I wouldn't 

[00:06:57] Brian: say they do. You know, we all have different [00:07:00] memories. We all have different experiences. And the honest answer is we haven't really talked about it between us that much.

[00:07:07] Brian: Everybody's kind of their own person. They're all pretty strong in themselves. To what extent, I can't really say. We don't really have a conversation around our self image, but everybody seems to be pretty confident in where they are in life. Which is a good thing. That's great. You kids 

[00:07:22] Sandy: have 

[00:07:22] Shannon: always, to some degree, been involved in your dad and his business and his message, but it hasn't always been your primary focus.

[00:07:30] Shannon: When did you decide that you wanted to follow that path and what played into that decision? 

[00:07:35] Brian: Out of the three of us, I'm really the one that worked with dad. My brother dabbled in it for maybe two years or so, but that was about it. I worked with dad when I was 18 and worked with him until I was probably 25, 26 years old and I felt I needed to get out and do my own thing to make my own mark on the world and see what I could do on my own.

[00:07:55] Brian: So I left and I got into real estate. I was a real estate salesperson for a [00:08:00] good 12 years. The best part was I actually applied all the teachings that I learned from my father into the real estate world. And within my first year, I was in the top 100 internationally for a very, very large real estate firm.

[00:08:12] Brian: It really worked out in my favor. After probably 12 years, dad had always tried to get me to come back to the company. He just thought it would be great for us to work together. I had more of a marketing background. It felt right. So I went back and I worked with him for. Gosh, close to 30 years. It was a great thing.

[00:08:27] Brian: What a gift to both of you. Very much so. 

[00:08:30] Shannon: You were actually in the process of writing this book around the time that your dad passed just over about a year and a half ago. In the process of writing the book, have you learned anything new about him? 

[00:08:43] Brian: I wouldn't say I've learned anything new about him. I think I've come to appreciate him even more with reflection on everything that we've been through and have gone through through our life.

[00:08:54] Brian: Writing the book was just a really good thing for me. Number one is I get to [00:09:00] share a side of my father that most people aren't aware of. But writing this book, writing it from a son's point of view, you know, what Bob Proctor was like as a father, as a friend, what did he teach me? I think people are very interested in that.

[00:09:13] Brian: And I get to share a perspective of him that most people don't know. So, it was great writing it. I had a lot of fun writing it. I started writing it when Dad was alive. He knew I was writing it. He really liked what I was doing. We had some great conversations around it. He certainly added a lot more material for me that, looking back on certain situations.

[00:09:32] Brian: He passed away about a year and a half ago, so the final year of putting this book together, he was gone. If anything, it, it just made me more aware of what a truly great man he was and how kind he was. His whole life was about helping other people live a better life. And he taught from the heart. He was a studier.

[00:09:54] Brian: He was a student of the material. You know, my dad never liked to be called a motivational speaker. He liked to be [00:10:00] considered a teacher. He studied every day. He did whatever he could to show other people that they are really, truly capable of doing whatever it is that they really want to do. We just need to sometimes get out of our own way and just have faith that we can achieve whatever it is that we want to go after.

[00:10:16] Shannon: That's beautiful. What did you learn about yourself in the process? 

[00:10:19] Brian: I learned that I'm a very good goal achiever. How's that? 

[00:10:24] Sandy: Whoa, that's fabulous. It's a good thing. 

[00:10:28] Brian: Dad was always about setting lofty goals. He always liked the idea that a goal should be something that we don't have a clue how we're going to get there, but it's something that inspires us.

[00:10:40] Brian: And if a goal is really inspiring and worthy, and we don't know how we're going to get there, The growth that takes place getting to it is everything that counts. When you have a big goal, you will step out and do things in a day that you would never normally do. That's a big deal. So that's, that's probably the, the greatest thing that I've learned.

[00:10:59] Brian: Yeah, 

[00:10:59] Sandy: that's [00:11:00] a wonderful thing. And you guys call them paradigms. I call them shoulds because you should do this and you shouldn't do that. And it's the voice in your head. You have to listen to those and identify them and see where they came from and then decide if they still fit. Because most of the time, if they're things holding you back, they don't fit anymore.

[00:11:18] Brian: It's so true. That's probably what holds back virtually everybody from going after what they really want. So often we have this little voice in our head that's talking negative, talking to us that, no, we're not worthy, we can't do that. And we need to learn to kick that out of our head. One of the things I've always loved is this statement, Would you be friends with somebody that talked to you the way you talk to yourself?

[00:11:42] Brian: Yeah, 

[00:11:42] Sandy: that's great. I 

[00:11:43] Brian: love that. Hey, if you're not talking to yourself in a good way, it's time to change it. Right. 

[00:11:47] Sandy: And a lot of people carry, the voice came from their parents or their siblings or way back when they were little and they were told they weren't worthy or they weren't valuable or they were stupid.

[00:11:58] Sandy: And so when they [00:12:00] set those big goals that you're talking about, they go, Oh, but you're going to fail anyway. So I try. And that's not their voice. That's somebody from long ago. 

[00:12:08] Brian: That is so true. I certainly feel gifted. I feel like I live a charmed life and I was very fortunate the way I grew up and I know not everybody was brought up this way.

[00:12:17] Brian: I'm the first to say I know that bad things happen to people and bad things have happened to people. We don't need to let our past and what other people have told us in the past dictate how we move forward from this point on. Dad had a saying, he says, you can't change the time you got out of bed this morning.

[00:12:34] Brian: I always loved that. Yeah, he's right. Yeah, what's happened in the past has happened in the past. If it's not good, let it go. When we say forgive, forgive doesn't mean let that person off the hook. Forgive means to free yourself of the negative loop that your head is putting you into. That means forgiving and forgetting, letting go of the voices that talk negative to you.

[00:12:57] Brian: All we've got is right here and right now. What's happened to [00:13:00] us in the past has happened to us in the past. Don't let it form your identity. Don't let it be a part of who you are. And decide, who do I want to be? What do I want to do? And then get on with the work. Yeah. 

[00:13:11] Sandy: So when have you had to do that? 

[00:13:13] Brian: If I'm to be really honest, yeah, you know, 10, 10 or 12 years ago, I was in a relationship that was not honoring who I was, and I'm the first to admit, I stayed in that relationship for a couple of years longer than I ever should have.

[00:13:28] Brian: And I stayed in it for the wrong reasons. I was worried about what other people would think. 

[00:13:31] Sandy: It was that little 

[00:13:32] Brian: voice in your head. Yeah, you know, and when I finally got out of that relationship, I was punishing myself. I was punishing myself for staying in it for so long. That inner voice was talking negative.

[00:13:43] Brian: Because I know this material, I think I got through it quicker than maybe some other people would. But when I saw what I was doing, I thought, it's time for me to let this go. It's time to forgive. Forgive yourself. Yeah, in that case, it was forgiving myself. I did what I did. I can't change it at this point.

[00:13:59] Sandy: But you [00:14:00] learned the lesson. Exactly. The whole point of making mistakes is to learn the lesson. Right. So that you don't do it again. 

[00:14:06] Brian: That's it. And, and, you know, then just be the best version of who you are right now, right here and now, because all we've got is the present moment. So, if we be the best version of us at any given moment, things are gonna, they'll start to work out.

[00:14:19] Shannon: What areas do you feel you're growing into now? Where do you feel you're evolving? What are you working on 

[00:14:26] Brian: personally? For me, Shannon, I would say it's just getting myself out there more. I have a big goal. This book. You know, it's not ego saying, I know it's a good book. I just know it's a good book. I know there's a lot of value in it.

[00:14:39] Brian: And I say that not because it's about me. It's not about me. It's really about my father and it's about what I learned from him. I know the lessons I learned from him are valuable because I'm living a great life because of it. I was never given anything, but I was taught how to live a good life. I know that this book will do that.

[00:14:56] Brian: So for me, I have a very big goal on how many books I want out [00:15:00] there in this world because I know that it will do good for anybody that reads it. Where I'm learning right now is that when you've got a big goal and you're not sure how to get there, you just do whatever it takes. And for me, that's getting on podcasts, that's going on stage, speaking at events.

[00:15:16] Brian: These are things that I would have never done before. I just would have avoided it like the plague to be honest with you. But now I'm doing it because it feels right. I know I've got a good message to deliver. quite frankly, I'm starting to enjoy it. Isn't that 

[00:15:30] Sandy: fun? You're getting past the fear and the anxiety and just saying, you know, this is actually fun.

[00:15:35] Sandy: Your goal and my goal is exactly the same thing to support and empower people as they discover how amazing they are. That's right. And you're doing that by getting yourself out there. You put yourself sort of to the side and say, this isn't about me. I'm on this stage, but I'm on this stage for all of you out there.

[00:15:52] Sandy: Exactly. That's pretty awesome because you were not raised being the kid who always got all the attention. And I [00:16:00] don't think. 

[00:16:00] Brian: No, I really wasn't. I was always kind of a support person for sure. That's probably a good way to put it. So now, you know, I'm just living into it and I know that I have valuable things that I can share and I'm willing to step out and do it.

[00:16:12] Brian: So that's, that's not a bad thing. It's 

[00:16:14] Sandy: a fabulous thing. 

[00:16:15] Shannon: Yeah. You've got some big shoes to fill. You're delivering your father's message to an audience that knew your father really well. How is that for you moving forward with his message, but moving forward as you? Is there a difference? 

[00:16:30] Brian: There's definitely a difference.

[00:16:32] Brian: Here's something I learned a while ago. I'm Brian Proctor. I'm not Bob Proctor. So I will never present like Bob Proctor did. I'll present in my own way. And that's a good thing. I'm okay with that. We're, we're all individuals. We all have our own way of sharing things. And I feel good about that. I don't feel that I have big shoes to fill because I'm not replacing who my father was.

[00:16:53] Brian: I am just becoming more of who I am and sharing what I've learned in my lifetime. And fortunately, my [00:17:00] father, Bob Proctor, was the one who taught me most of this. So it's, it's kind of fun sharing it from my perspective and in my own unique style. That's fabulous. 

[00:17:09] Sandy: And it's good for people to hear that there are other ways.

[00:17:13] Sandy: To present it, then Bob did, Bob did a great job, but that might not have fit for everybody. And the way you do it might fit better for some people. 

[00:17:23] Brian: Yeah, we're all individuals. And I think if we can own who we are and be the best version of who we are, it's a good thing. You know, the world would be a pretty boring place if we were all the same.

[00:17:34] Brian: Yeah, 

[00:17:34] Sandy: absolutely. Did you ever struggle with self 

[00:17:36] Brian: esteem? I can't say I haven't. I don't think I ever struggled very, very badly with it. I've always had a bit of a strong self image, and I guess that was developed from when I was a young child, as I mentioned with the prayers that my father gave me. I've never really struggled with self esteem too badly, I don't feel.

[00:17:52] Brian: I'm sure I've had my moments. They never lasted very long. 

[00:17:54] Sandy: Oh, you were fortunate. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure you made it so your [00:18:00] kids didn't either. Absolutely. I've 

[00:18:02] Shannon: noticed in reading stories about people who are followers of these natural, universal laws who are very strong in their self worth that they tend to have a stronger, deeper relationship with nature as well as with other people.

[00:18:19] Shannon: And there's a story in your book that I, I wouldn't mind if you could share. You shared with us, because I'd really like to hear it in your words about the interaction you had with the seal. Do you mind sharing that with 

[00:18:28] Brian: us? Oh, sure. You know, that was such a fun experience and I can add to that now as well.

[00:18:33] Brian: So that story happened, uh, 23, 24 years ago. It was quite a while ago. It was the first time I'd been in the Pacific Northwest. As you know, I live there now, but I've just recently relocated here. 23, 24 years ago, we were doing a seminar in Vancouver, British Columbia. That was the first time I'd ever been there.

[00:18:50] Brian: And my God, did I love the Pacific Northwest. I thought I'm going to move out here for a year and just kind of really get a feel for it. I rented a house right [00:19:00] on the water and the fellow that I rented the house from, he gave me a canoe, prawn traps, and I don't know, 300 feet of rope and a buoy and said that there's prawns out there that You know, I could catch and I thought, wow, that sounds kind of cool.

[00:19:11] Brian: So, you know, I love nature. I love the water. So I started trying my luck at catching prawns. And at first I was not very successful. One of the neighbors, old fella who had lived there forever, I think he was in his seventies or eighties at the time, said, Oh, there's no more prawns out there. You won't catch any.

[00:19:26] Brian: And I thought, I just not going to listen to him. I studied what I had to do, the depth I had to put the traps and all that kind of thing, and I just kept working at it while I started catching prawns. The cool thing was, every time I'd go out, there was always a few seals that were around. And there was this one little seal that kind of stood out.

[00:19:42] Brian: He was a lighter color. He had some very distinct markings on his face, so I always knew it was him. And I called him Pop. Every time I was out there, I would just... talk to him. Um, I would just speak softly to him and, and he was always looking at me with his deep brown eyes and it was just kind of a cool thing.

[00:19:58] Brian: It was a really cool experience. [00:20:00] Well, one winter there was a bit of a storm came through after I had traps in and so it took a few days before I could go and get the traps and I didn't feel good about leaving the traps out there for a long time without checking them. So there was a break in the storm and I went out.

[00:20:13] Brian: And I pulled the traps up and the storm started, another wave of it started coming back in. Well, I'm in a canoe in the ocean. It was getting a little bit rough. Fog was rolling in. It was, you know, not really the smartest move in the world. So I went to drop the traps back down. Well, I guess I moved from where I thought I was because of the fog and everything.

[00:20:32] Brian: It distorted things. And so the traps are going down, going down the ropes, going out and usually would stop at one point. And then I would just throw her over the buoy and be good. The line just kept flowing out and there was nothing I could do about it. Because if I went to grab the line, it would have flipped me and I would have been in.

[00:20:46] Brian: So it all went out. The buoy went out at the end of the line and went under the water and was gone. Oh dear. That's, that's, that's it. So I paddled back in because that was what I had to do just to stay safe. And gosh, it was [00:21:00] three or four days before things really settled back down. And then, you know, the sky's clear to get sunny.

[00:21:05] Brian: So I went back out and I started looking for this crazy trap. I'm looking and looking and looking, and I couldn't find it anywhere. Well, this little seal pup, he was, he was there with me. He was the only seal that was around to that day. And he was swimming really close to me and just kind of looking at me and, you know, I'm talking, I'm paddling around looking for it, I'd rigged up this.

[00:21:23] Brian: Long stick with a hook that if I saw the buoy under the water, I'd be able to pull everything up. Well, after about two hours, I gave up. I thought, I don't know where this is. It's, it's gone. I started going back to shore. And as I went back to shore, pup started going a little further back out. Well, when I got to shore and I was getting out of the canoe and I was just starting to pull it up, he started barking.

[00:21:41] Brian: He was barking really loud and he was swimming in circles way, way out. That's really odd. You know, I was looking at it and I turned my head again. We started barking louder and then I was swimming in these crazy circles. So that inner voice said, God, maybe he's telling me something, you know, and, and I listened to it.

[00:21:57] Brian: So I got back in the canoe and I paddled out to [00:22:00] where he was, which was way further out than I would have ever gone. Lo and behold, right where he's swimming in circles is the buoy. It was like five, six feet under the surface. I was able to hook it and bring it up. That was just a moment I will never forget.

[00:22:13] Brian: You know, they talk about kinship with nature and wildlife and things. It was a really special moment that that seal actually showed me where it was and was able to call to me to look at it and that I listened. That was just kind of a cool moment. 

[00:22:26] Sandy: Isn't that amazing? You did that because you were in tune with yourself and paid attention to what you were seeing and hearing, your internal dialogue.

[00:22:35] Sandy: I think you're right. That is just 

[00:22:37] Brian: beautiful. Yeah, it was kind of cool. And Corey and I, my wife, we've got this beautiful house here and we've got a really nice kind of covered balcony off of our master bedroom that overlooks the inlet of Puget Sound. We always enjoy having our morning coffee out there, first thing in the morning, just really enjoying nature and just enjoying the surrounding, the environment that we're in.

[00:22:57] Brian: We're always grateful for where we're at. One morning, [00:23:00] gosh, it was only about a week and a half, two weeks ago. It was at five o'clock in the morning. The sun was just starting to come up. This brought me back to thinking of pup. It wasn't 10 feet from shore, right directly in front of me was a seal giving birth to a little pup.

[00:23:14] Brian: And it was the most remarkable thing to watch. And that little pup was born. It was just floating on the surface and the mother's nudging it. After a few minutes, the little pup would put his nose under the water and just blow bubbles and then put his head back up. It was the most incredible thing to watch and just enjoy the moment of, and it took about an hour and an hour and a half before that little pup actually would be fully underwater swimming around.

[00:23:39] Brian: I'm just thinking, what a gift that was. That happened literally 10, 15 feet from shore, so probably 25, 30 feet in front of me. And it just brought me back to that 

[00:23:46] Sandy: story. Oh, that's phenomenal. And you are in touch with nature. I remember you telling me about riding your motorcycle and the pelican was flying with you.

[00:23:56] Sandy: That's right. It's like, oh my goodness. And that's because you're in [00:24:00] touch with 

[00:24:00] Brian: yourself. Well, I just find that if you can get in touch with nature and really ground yourself, it's a good thing for the soul. I'm always in my bare feet. I love being in bare feet in the grass or in the water or wherever. I just think if you can ground yourself.

[00:24:13] Brian: And really enjoy where you're at and enjoy nature. It's soothing for the soul. It's, it's a good thing. Oh my gosh, 

[00:24:19] Sandy: that makes all the difference. 

[00:24:21] Shannon: Thank you for sharing that story with 

[00:24:22] Sandy: us. Yeah, yeah, happy to. You have so many great stories about all kinds of amazing things. I've had 

[00:24:28] Brian: a fun life. 

[00:24:30] Sandy: And you will continue to.

[00:24:31] Sandy: That's correct. What 

[00:24:33] Shannon: message would you like to leave us with 

[00:24:35] Brian: today? Well, number one, I really hope that you'll go out and purchase the book, My Father Knew the Secret. You can get it on Amazon, you can get it at brianproctor. com. I hope you'll get it and read it because there's some really valuable messages there.

[00:24:49] Brian: If I was to leave you with one final word, it would be this. Be the best version of you at this very moment, at every day. If you can be the best [00:25:00] version of you and live in the present moment, your life will be different. It will be more satisfying, you'll be a kinder person, you will accomplish more. I've always found that we're We're less effective if we live in the past or project yourself into the future.

[00:25:14] Brian: If we can be the best version of us each day, and that's not going to be the same every day for sure, but if we can be the best version of us each day, you're going to have better relationships, you'll have a better business, and you'll have a better life. 

[00:25:26] Sandy: Great words of wisdom, Brian. And thank you for sharing your time and your wisdom and all your fun with us.

[00:25:33] Sandy: It's always fun to talk with you. 

[00:25:35] Brian: Yeah, thanks. It's wonderful to be here and great to have a chat with you both. 

[00:25:38] Shannon: Thank you. We appreciate your time. So the book is My Father Knew the Secret, Growing Up with Bob Proctor, and you can get that at brianproctor. com. There are some bonus gifts that will come along with that, including some live VIP Q& As over Zoom and some other bonuses.

[00:25:54] Shannon: As always, we appreciate you joining us today. Please share with us your thoughts. We [00:26:00] love it when you contact us with your stories about how self esteem and personal power have affected your life. We love it when you suggest topics for us to address in future episodes, and we love it when you review our podcasts.

[00:26:11] Shannon: Thank you for doing that, and you can do so wherever you stream or at yourpersonalpowerpod. com. You can also get in touch with us on Instagram. And if you want to learn how coaching can change your life, contact sandy at sandy at insidejobscoach. com. We look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again to Brian Proctor.

[00:26:28] Shannon: And until next time, find your power and change your life.[00:27:00]