How Brock Zevan Turned Pain Into Purpose And Built A Life Of Service

What if the hardest season of your life became the clearest blueprint for impact? That’s the heartbeat of our conversation with coach and producer Brock Zevan a dad first, a top‑producing real estate agent, and a leader who rebuilt with alignment, systems, and service. We dig into the moments that shaped him, from addiction to the quiet wins of parenting and the daily discipline of a 256‑episode mindset show.

We break down what actually moves the needle in a tougher real estate market: sharpening your listing presentation like an exam, shifting from scripts to real conversations, and borrowing credibility by co‑listing with top teams to stack proven reps. Brock shares play‑by‑play on appointment timing, question frameworks, and listening to understand so you can deliver a plan that calms fear and earns trust. If you’ve felt exposed by the market shift, this is the skills‑first reset you’ve been craving.

Then we get practical about leverage. When should you hire a virtual assistant? When you can cash‑flow 3–6 months, name the top five tasks you must stop doing, and commit to training with clear SOPs. Brock outlines what to offload, what to keep domestic for smooth coordination, and how weekly standups and loom videos turn chaos into rhythm. We also touch on his cross‑industry coaching—from lenders to breweries to, yes, casket sales—proving that sales is a language of empathy, clarity, and process.

Brock’s books tie it together. Turning Scripts Into Conversations translates DISC into everyday selling—so you connect instead of recite. Life By The Decades maps how our needs shift and how to adjust your goals with each stage. It’s a candid, human, and tactical ride that leaves you with a sharper toolkit and a steadier heart.

If this episode sparks a shift, share it with a friend, join the private group for free coaching links, and subscribe so you never miss our next deep dive. Your next brave step—what’s it going to be?

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SPEAKER_00 0:14

Hey everyone. Welcome back to our Unstoppable Podcast series. I'm so excited about today's guest. I was just with him not too long ago in Nashville, Tennessee at a real estate summit that he hosted, and it was magnificent. I got so many great nuggets, met so many good people, and he's just got a plethora of things that he could talk about. But I really want to get into this podcast about how he got started and what motivated him to have a servant's heart to help people because that's really what you do. You really like to help people. So everybody, without further ado, I'm going to introduce you to Brock Zevant. So go ahead, sir.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Hi, Megan. How are you? It's a pleasure to see you again.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

I know it was so nice. It's been what, about a few weeks ago since we saw each other the last time?

unknown 0:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

I don't have as much stress this time when uh when talking to you, because last time I was just like, I gotta go here, here, here, and here. So it's just nice being able to be in the spot and and being able to talk to you and talk to your audience here. So thank you so much for this opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Well, thank you for coming on. And you were a lot of places, but you were helping a lot of people. That room was full. Music City Work Club, shout out to that place. That was awesome. Jim did a great job of helping with that location there. So I just want to go into people tell us a little bit about yourself. If people don't know Brock, they need to. And we'll go into how to follow you and all the things toward the end of the podcast. But tell us a little bit about what you do now and um how you got started in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Sure. So I uh, you know, it's funny. I was just talking to a gentleman in I want to say I think it's uh Budapest. And he was like going through my list of things. He goes, I'm not too sure how accurate this is, but there's quite a few things here. And I said, Unfortunately, I do, fortunately, unfortunately, I do a lot of things. And I'm just blessed because I do have uh an amazing virtual agency team. So when I share this all, just know that it has been of years and years of years of failure and understanding leverage and and being able to do this. And so um yeah, I'm very, very fortunate on what I do, and I just have an amazing family, an amazing team. And and you saw Nashville, where it all comes into play when you have that type of synergy and that energy all working together. I'm very big with John Maxwell says, be around not assignment but alignment. And it took me a while to really get into that and to understand what that all meant meant and getting the right people not only on the bus, but in the right seats of the bus. Right. And so over the course of my years, I've been able to put some plans together and puzzle piece that together. So, yes, as as the saying is, uh, you know, when I when I do my podcast, my name is Coach Brock Zevin. I'm a life coach, business coach, real estate coach, a real estate agent, and a DAD. And the most important I start off with is a DAD where I have two beautiful kids. Uh, my son Bryce is seven, my daughter Brielle is 13, and she gives me every ounce of testing my patience known to man. And um so we're we're we're learning a lot right now. I'm actually talking. I was telling my VA team we we start our our Tuesdays, our Mondays with something positive. And I told them, I said, I'm really happy that my my daughter, my son hugged me and said, you know, I love you, Dad. And and they're like, Oh, of course, that's sweet. I said, Well, I have to tell you, and for those that are going through a divorce or separation, you know, my kids told me yesterday that they didn't want to live with me anymore, and I'm not gonna get emotional, but at the same token, it's very, very hard to hear those words because on the outside, and those that know me, like, I mean, I just took my daughter to New York City, flew her up there, not because, like, whoa, but that was her birthday, no, right. We're so tight, yet they're at that, well, Brielle's at that age where she's just like, and I don't want to like, it's not to be mean, but she's not like at home at her mom's house, it's not as strict, there's not as many consequences, I get it, and that plays a role because dad is like this, and so she doesn't like that, and so when she gets mad, and I'm having to understand that, absorb that, but then she says it in front of Bryce, and then Bryce is like, Well, Dad, I don't want to live here either. And so dad had to take a little taking one on the chin this weekend, and so when they got to hug me and say, I love you, you could just feel it and you could sense it, and so that meant a lot to me. But my kids are my everything, they are my why. They've helped me through my addiction of alcohol, they've helped me through my five-year of a of a divorce that that really you know extended itself more than it should have, and just so many, many challenges in my life that my kids truly are my why, they really are my inspiration to make me do what I do. Um, so yeah, so as the dad moment, I I am I'm blessed to have my two beautiful kids. Um, and I'm a real estate agent, been in the real estate since 2007. I am a producing agent, so I always say, like, to me, that's important because when I was getting coached by one of the top coaches in the country, he was in production, and I wanted to always stay in production. So I do between 15 and 17 million dollars in production each year on my own self. I have a wholesale innovations team that we do. We run about 100, 120 transactions uh a year on that. That we do. I run a virtual agency team. So I was just in the Philippines uh three months ago. So uh we have 33 people on my team of the company out there. I have six virtual agents that work for me. I coach 15 agents across the country and teams across the country. Um I'm an author of a book. I'm writing my second book, and um I speak and travel and do summits across the country. What else do I do? I think that's and I do investing. That's all for I've never a dull moment over here. Never a dull moment. Little Leo behind me. So um, like I said, it's it's we stay very busy.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Yeah, you do. And that's one thing that that I really like about you, Brock, is that you are very humble and you're not afraid to share where you're at in your journey. Like you just shared about your kids. I mean, that that takes guts to share personal stuff like that, but that also is what makes you relatable. And that's why people feel like they can trust you because they can't. Because I feel like we live in such a society nowadays that it's just such a microwave society. Everything is an instant, everything's a now. We put a filter on everything, which I love a good filter, don't get me wrong, on Facebook. But I just feel like it's just so the transparency sometimes is just we don't let people see what's in the basement. But sometimes the people need to see what's in the basement because we're going through it. And that's one of the things that you're summit that people that have worked with you and that have known you, I've heard them say that that's one of the things that they like about you is that you want they are you are very transparent because when you're coaching people, if you can't be transparent and expect them to see where you came from and show them a little bit of the ugly, they're not gonna really know the results that they can get because you've worked through that yourself. And that's one of the main reasons I wanted you on here today is because yes, you do coach people, yes, you do a ton of different things. You're a dad, you're a real estate agent, you're doing all the things, you survived bad markets, good markets, all the things. And that itself is something to be extremely thankful of and brag about. But you also are relatable and you all do care about people. And I think that's a lot of times that we miss that in today's world, whether it is a business coach, a real estate coach, or if it's just somebody that you're working alongside with on your nine to five, I think we forget that relationship part. And that means more to me than anything when I'm doing business with somebody, when I'm going to hire a coach, even when I'm, you know, forming friendships and business partners alike, because a lot of my business partners have become my friends because we have that alignment and stuff. So I love that that you shared that moment. And I know that's hard as a dad to hear. Um, anybody that has children can understand those moments, whether they're divorced or married. Kids, kids can break your heart, but they could also just bless you in so many different ways. So my next question to you was what made you, and and I want to follow up on the on the VA stuff because that is really taken off now. A lot of people, smaller businesses are doing VAs and everything else. But what made you decide? I'm gonna take my real estate knowledge and other things because I know you're coaching people in real estate, but you're doing a lot more than just coaching real estate. I've I've heard just you know, heard just speak. You're doing a lot more. You're coaching people, you're you're providing them with, you know, positive thinking, new way of thinking, re realignment, things like that. What made you decide I'm gonna do this as a next step chapter move?

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Sorry, I was I take notes so that way I don't forget certain things. No, you're good.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

I I I did the same thing. I have my little phone beside me.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

So I would just to kind of to I'm gonna get into your question of why I do it now, but for anybody that's listening in, what I've learned is poor is a mindset, broke is a season. I've been broke twice in my life. At the same token, my kids and the season they're in, I know this too shall pass. And so no matter how hard it is that I feel, like on a Saturday, I don't feel the same way today, and I won't be able to feel the same way tomorrow. So, whatever you're feeling, just understand it will pass, and there'll something good will take its place, but it sucks in the meantime. But when I was listening to you, I was just like, you know what, this is just a season. Like I have to grow through this and go through this, and once I do, I'm gonna be okay. And it's just absorbing it. And so I just want to to to finish that thought because what you were saying there was so true that you know it it will come and I will go through and I will be fine, and it's sad at the time, and it it'll be good again. And so I guess that's that's kind of how I was able to really on why I do it is because I can help somebody else out. I was listening to something on um good, bad, or indifferent. We talked about on the earlier podcast today about the whole halftime show and Kid Rock and you know Bunny there speaking on on the halftime thing, and and I'd say this Kid Rock said something about getting a second chance. God gave me a second chance in my life because I wanted to end my life during my addiction of my alcohol because nothing I was doing was making sense. I couldn't get I couldn't get on the right road, I couldn't get on like everything was just falling apart in my life, and I was just like, maybe there's an easier way. And then and that as is as it was, it was just like, well, just gonna I I knew I was gonna run into a tree, and that's how it's gonna end my life, and and I just was like, There's gotta be a better version of me. And so I do this podcast every day, Monday through Friday, and it started several years ago, four or five years ago, and it started just being on a phone call with my team, but I started to realize that I was making an impact in people's life, and so I said that if I could drink and do something stupid on every day that ends in Y, there's also another choice that is there, and I could do something good and positive. So I started to do this mindset motivational show every day, Monday through Friday. We do 256 episodes a year, and that's why I have an LVA team that just handles all my podcasts, because as you can imagine being a podcast host, doing 256 episodes a year with show notes and production and editing and and getting it out there is a lot. But to help somebody to help them make a better simplest thing. If somebody said something like, you know what, today meant a lot to me, or I needed to hear that, or thank you for sharing, thank you for that person or the relationship that that came about, that's what means so much to me. And so I feel very strongly that God gave me a second chance to make an impact and to help so many people. And this time around, as they say, like I'm built differently, I'm wired differently, and now I try to connect as many people as I can. And that's why when you when you asked me to be on here, I was like, I love the opportunity to be able to share with your audience anything because you're making an impact in people, you're helping people because you could say one little thing that could keep them going, and that's what happened to me as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Yes, I love that. I I do. Um, and that's one of the things too. Like, I I feel like share my always tell people when I share my story. I feel like if you don't know the whole story, you'll be like, oh my gosh, were you on Jerry Springer? Like, Jerry Springer, you could have been a guest. I'm like, yeah, but if you really, you know, if you really take the time to hear my story or anybody's story, you're gonna be like, man, they really survived. You know, they came on that the the flip side of this, and this is just a blessing. And and I just think that transparency is just where where it's at. That's how I I don't really now that I'm older, I don't know how to do it any other way. But to be transparent, sometimes I'm gonna open book too much, and my friends are like, eh, I probably would have ran that back a little bit. I'm like, well, you know what? I'm gonna find my people that way. If I am who I am, I'm gonna find my people that way, and I'm gonna find who God wants me to bless and who he wants me to share a word with, and whether it's a supermarket or on a podcast or wherever, you know. So um that that is that is awesome. And and that you grew your clients to to 15. You said you got 15 active real estate coaching clients right now, right? Is that what you said? Or did you say 50?

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah, no, I have 15. So for my bandwidth, I take 15 people on insurance, mortgage, but yeah, so I do 15 people.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

That's amazing. And you work and you'll have a close-knit group. And I know some of those people were at the event in Nashville as well. And not only that, you partner yourself with people that are just doing not only big things, but they've overcome a lot as well. And they're they are so quick to share what worked and what didn't work. And I I love that about people, speaking of transparency, is that when something's working for somebody, um, I think that we all get in, I think we go to some events sometimes and you feel like, oh, I gotta act like I'm doing this when you're really drowning and you're really struggling, and you just need somebody to be like, hey, it sucks for me too. Like it sucks right now for me too. And this is what's helping me. And I saw that it wasn't just people, I hate for lack of better term, just kind of having a pee in contest with each other. It was truly people there that were wanting to grow themselves and to grow, to grow their to help each other grow. And and that that is great as well. So, um, what is one of the struggles? I I have a lot of agents that do listen to this as well. Um, what is one of the struggles that you think that the real estate world is facing today as far as being a realtor or getting into real estate?

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Um I would think really it's it's the lack of skills is they just don't have the skill set. We were just so used to putting a house on the market and being sold so quickly. And majority of real estate agents that got their license in the last three to four years, our market is not like that anymore. And so most real estate agents just, you know, struggle with skills, struggle with confidence, struggle, you know, you don't know what you don't know, lack of exposure. And so that's why I do some of my coaching that really like which doesn't cost anything why I do some of my free coaching is just to give like I did one just talking about my pre-listing and when I go on my appointments, and how I go on my appointments, and what time I go on my appointments, and the question that asked before I go, and and people are like, Wow, I had no idea because you don't know what you don't know, right? And so I think it's just really that you know, when we get uh an attorney or a doctor or really even my son with school, like they they study before the big test in real estate. Our test is the listing presentation, is the buyer consultation, and many of us are going there with even not studying, preparing, or knowing what to do because there's no book that they go to. You take your test, you take your exam, but then they don't teach you real life stuff. And I tell agents or somebody asked me, like, if you had to start fresh, Brock, start excuse me, brand new again, what would you do? I said, immediately go to expires and fizzbos. I start calling them, and then I go into the MLS and I find out who the top teams and top agents are. I call them up and I say, Megan, my name is Brock Zebian. I was a real estate agent in Charlotte. I'm trying to go my business in Nashville. I'm one of the top, I'm learning how to uh expires and FISBOs. That's how I do my business there. I have an expired listing appointment for$550,000. Would you co-broke this with me and we can work together so I can learn about your business and about you? Like, imagine doing that every week, right? And you start building relationships with these top teams. They're not gonna say no to y'all. Right, wait a minute, you're gonna pay me 50%. You're calling me to pay me 50% for the lead that you brought, everything else. Yes, that's what I'm doing. Because you have credibility, you've already been in the business, you already are known here, and I like to get involved in doing that. I think agents just don't understand like the concept of thinking outside the box, understanding the right skills, what to bring, what to do, and so if anything, it's like it goes back to the basics of what that looks like to have conversations, and and habit number uh four with the Stephen Covey is under listening to understand. Yeah, God gave us two ears and one mouth. And to me, that's such an important thing is just really listening to people and then having the skill set to break it down to present a solution and a plan for people. And I think more and more when you when you do that, because 62% of people are built to be able to understand it, to break it down like that. They want it planned, they want it step by step, and when you understand it, then it makes it a lot easier to present. So to me, it's just the the the skill set, I think is really what what is needed.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

Yeah, I I do too. I I think that that and and to start, don't be afraid to start. Like I always tell people all the time, like, if you're wanting to do a podcast, if you're wanting to do, you know, meet with so many clients or whatever, it doesn't have to be perfect. When you start, just get out there and do it, right? Just get out there, you'll figure it out, you'll do things along the way, just start somewhere. And I think that's so that that's so important that so many people just really, really lack off on that. Um, one of the one of the other things um before we start talking about the VA, because I think there's a lot of people that need to talk about like the virtual assistants and all the things that they do there. Um sorry, we have a somebody in the background then. Um what uh I'll have to edit that part out. Um, but what um anyways, so what what do you um suggest people to do that are trying to get into pod, like so let's say I do podcasting and I do all the other things. When do you think it's the right time for somebody to get a VA and like how does that work? Because everybody's like, oh, you can get the VA overseas. Like, how can you do this? How can you do that? Like, tell tell people that don't know. Let's say I don't know anything about VAs. Tell us a little bit about this and how it could help a small entrepreneur because I feel like if they a lot of realtors would have that and invest a little bit of money in that, they're gonna be more predictable with their time for sure.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

So there's there's a couple things that come to mind. One is the biggest is the budget, is to know that they have at least three months to six months of a VA in it saved up. So typically, you know, for a full-time virtual assistant, you're looking at sometimes right around$800 a month. And so it's having like at least$25,000,$3,400 saved up that you have you're not financially worried about the the budget to begin with, because you can focus your attention on what you need. So just a budget in itself. Secondly, is understanding your top five things that you should not be doing in what you are doing, like what's taking up most of your time? What are certain issues that you would have right now? So social media seems to be a big thing, but then I say to them, Well, how are you doing your social media now? What are you posting now? What's causing you these problems now? And really, they they don't understand. That's why we do an onboarding and Intake because I was a school teacher for 12 years. Part of what I do is I intake and I ask you questions like what is it that you need help with? Where are you struggling? What time of the day? Like, what is it that because we have to we have to understand really what your problem is? Yeah, your passion. Yeah. Majority of the time it's just you're just a lack of discipline, is really what it is. And you don't want to do the work, and you just think pawning it off to somebody else is gonna make it a lot easier. But then you think that the VAs are mind readers, and then you're like, they don't get me, Brock. They don't understand. I said, Well, what is your training package like? What are you telling them? Yeah, yeah, but they're they're not mind readers, they have no idea. So, you know, in reference to that, it's just really the budget, and then it would be like, What are your top three to five problems? We give that people a VA, like top 100 things a VA can do um for you to help you out, and then we break down like a lot of people like want a transaction coordinator, you know. Transaction coordinators, I I keep them in the United States, um just because there's conversations that need to be had, and it just I just and this is it runs smoother that way, yeah. Yeah, it's just it's just I mean, it's not saying that they can't, but it just runs smoother when you have somebody in there, and and you don't have to pay a transaction coordinator until you close all and just put it in the contract. I haven't played it paid a transaction coordinator in two years, saved me over seventy thousand dollars just having a transaction coordinator, have it paid by the sire seller or the buyer. It's just how you present it. But to me, it's just really understanding what your problems are, writing them down. We could send you over the hundred day or a hundred things that a VA can do, and then we break it down and understand what that looks like. We help you with the training so that way you can have your team meetings because that's what you all now are as a team, and then just having the budget, but that's where you really start to learn leverage in order to be able to do. And sometimes they tell them, like, listen, you you do you don't need a VA, you're not quite there yet. And sometimes I say, like, damn, how the hell are you doing all this? Like, exactly. You should have had a VA a while ago.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah. I'll so that's and that's the thing that people are just need to ask questions. Like, don't be afraid, you're not gonna look novice if you don't ask the questions. Because I guarantee you, you wouldn't have flew over to the Philippines and had a VA team for yourself if you didn't find out the questions, the key questions to ask to do that. So if you're if you take anything, there's a lot to take out of this from talking to Brog, but take take, don't be afraid to ask questions. Like, I feel like so many people just put like just keep themselves just hung up in a spot of uncertainty and just chaos because they do not want to ask a question because they're afraid that they'll look like they don't know what they're talking about or that they're they won't fit in with their peers. And I think that again, just not that out of the part, just I don't understand it. Like, I'm the first to say that's Greek to me. I do not understand. Can you please frame it like I'm a first grader, please? Yeah, like I want I want to.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

And that's what I say in Chat GPT too. In ChatGPT, I'd be like, please explain this as a fifth grader so that way I can understand it. I'm just not getting it. I need you to slow it down for me. And then it does. Then it's just like because you just have to be vulnerable and honest with yourself about what the hell I'm doing.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Exactly. Because then you're gonna become an expert in it, and then you're gonna help somebody else. And then, like, again, telling your story can help somebody else. It's the same thing with learning and knowledge and just another tool in your tool belt or whatever. I kind of hate that saying because it's overuse, but it's the truth. It's another tool in the tool belt. But, anyways, um, but anyways, but um, so Brock, what do you have coming up soon? Like, if people around Nashville, are we coming back to Nashville anytime soon?

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Or are you I let's see. So I am in Alabama in two weeks. So I speak down in Alabama at the Gulf and the Gulf Shores. Um, and then in a month, I'm in Atlanta on March 10th. I speak in Atlanta, and then at the end of March, I'm supposed to be back in Nashville at Music City with Jim. I I don't know the exact date yet, but he's putting something together on that. Um, and then I'm supposed to be in New York in July, but that's that's tentatively what I can remember offhand. Yeah, I do have a link I can send you that has all my events, all my podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Everybody's always more than to join you for that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

But yeah, that's that's what I have uh coming up.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Do you coach people that are not real estate agents as well? Are you just strictly real estate?

SPEAKER_01 26:37

I do. So I I can coach lending uh lending companies, I co I coach somebody who sells caskets. I know it's crazy. There's somebody who really sells caskets, yeah. So casket sales, it's it's funny because when he presented to me his problem, cremating is an issue because the insurance and the cost between how much a casket compared to cremating, and if he's gotta sell caskets and people are choosing cremating, how do I sell more caskets? Yeah, so yeah, but it's it's just sales is just a language, and in my book, I built a formula to be able to help people because I do breweries, I do casket sales, landscape companies, lenders, insurance, real estate agents, and it's just a language.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Sell the sales at the end of the day, and I've learned, and I know you've seen this every day too. People, a lot of people just want to be seen and heard. That's all they want to do. They want to be seen, they want to be heard, they want to be valued at the end of the day. That's what it is. Well, tell us about uh tell us about your book. She said you got two books out, and where can they find those?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

So, my my one book that is in Amazon right now is Turning Scripts into Conversations. That con that script that book is about when I lost my real estate license in 2019 due to a property management issue that happened and I ended up having a lawsuit against me. So I lost my license during that time period. I had to figure out how to talk to people at a very, very high level. And so um I learned the disc of Tony Robbins and John Mask, John Maxwell, the D I S C, studied it, and so that became my claim of without a real estate license in 2019, I still made over$250,000 that year talking to strangers. And so that's what helped me really start to take my business to the next level, the coaching to the next level. So turning scripts into conversations is my formula on how to talk to people and how to engage with people and how to apply it into your sales, your pay, your and really anything. And then um, so I have that, and then my new book that is coming out is The Decades by the Life by the Decades, and it's breaking down how every decade of your life there's something substantial that takes place, and I and I made a fictitious story of a gentleman by the name of Michael, and the theme came from like your first decade of your life, your parents 100% taking care of you, and you have to you're very, very dependent on every single thing around you, and then fast forward throughout the entire story between your faith, your spiritualness, your finances, your family, everything else, as you grow through the story, you eventually find out that Michael is you, and it hits you on whatever decade you might be in. Yeah, because the story starts sounding to being related, like, oh my gosh, I'm going through that, oh my gosh, I'm doing that to the point of where I am with my season of my parents, or now my parents are dependent on me because they can't function and do some of the things that they used to be able to do. And so it comes to a full life of really our our cycle of of how we how we live. And um so I base it off of personal business life, and so it's broken down by each decade. So that one will be coming out probably in the next two months.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

Um I can't wait to read that one, and they can get it at Amazon, any of this, any of the things there. Okay, awesome. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Amazon, they can get it.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Awesome. Wonderful. Well, that's great. Okay, so we're gonna wrap this up, but I want people to know how they can connect with you. We're also when we what we'll do, guys, when we get down with this podcast and we release it, we will be sure to put all of his links, how to see him, how you can book him if you want him to come in and speak to your sales team or an event. Um, a great event speaker, very, very great, or great to come in and speak to a team as well. He's very transparent. He can tell you his whole story. Um, definitely, definitely, definitely. So how the plugs, how they can follow you on social and all the things really quick.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

So, all I'm not very good with all my handlers and everything else. But if you look up my name, you can pretty much see me on Facebook, you can see me on Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok uh are my main, my main channels that I have. I do have a private Facebook page that I would give Megan that is part of my private or private group that I that I have. You're all more than welcome. Friends of Megan are friends of mine, so you guys can all come into it. You can join me, you'll get links to all my podcasts um that we do each and every morning at 8 15 Eastern time. I have free coaching that I give out every other week too on Thursdays at 10 o'clock. And I also have some a couple um like videos that I do based off of what I call now money. It's basically a set of skills on how to make money now.

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I love that. Awesome. Be sure to follow that, especially the private group, guys. If you're listening to that, that is great. I've hopped on those calls and kind of watched them as I'm driving. Um, you can go back and watch stuff that he has if you can't catch it live. Very, very useful and and good, like I'll have to say good nuggets take with me and stuff as well. So, Brock, thank you again for coming on and being a guest and taking time out of your day. We really appreciate it. And thank you for your transparency, always. And um, guys, give him a follow and you'll have to check out our and our next our next podcast coming up within the next couple weeks. We will see you guys soon. Stop recording.