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Angela Jean - Simple Ways to Retrain Your Brain and Break Free from Self-Sabotage
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What if the path to mental freedom took just minutes a day instead of years of therapy? In this eye-opening conversation, Angela Jean reveals simple yet profound techniques to break free from negative thought patterns that keep you stuck in survival mode.
Having experienced multiple family tragedies, Angela discovered that her nervous system was locked in a state of perpetual fight-or-flight. Through her personal healing journey, she developed practical methods anyone can use to recalibrate their nervous system and retrain their brain for lasting transformation. Our minds seek patterns because they signal safety—even when these patterns are harmful. This is why we struggle to break free from negative thinking cycles that feel oddly comfortable despite causing us pain.
Angela shares powerful "pattern interrupters" that take seconds to implement but can dramatically shift your energy. The intense breathing technique she demonstrates creates empowering thoughts when you're caught in a negative spiral. Most transformative is her morning and evening "foundational micro reset"—a simple three-step process that takes just 20 seconds but signals deep safety to your nervous system. Equally powerful is her meridian point activation technique that targets specific emotional blocks stored in your body. These aren't complex protocols requiring hours of commitment—they're micro-practices that acknowledge your worth and capacity for self-healing. Release victim mentality, and create the life you desire from the inside out. Your healing journey begins with the next breath you take.
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Welcome back to Open-Minded Healing. Today we'll be speaking with my guest, angela Jean, who is a certified NLP practitioner, eft therapist, yoga teacher and mindset coach. Angela experienced personal tragedies in her family and became consumed by her negative thoughts and anger. While trying to elevate her mental health, she discovered a way to retrain her brain in a way that stopped the ruminating and took her mind out of the reactive loop that was keeping her stuck in survival mode. Today she'll be sharing easy daily habits you can implement to recalibrate your own nervous system so that you can break free of self-sabotaging programming that is keeping you away from the healthy and inspired life you most desire. Welcome, angela.
Speaker 1:Well said, Well, well done for you. So before we dive into these simple ways that you have for people to break these negative thought patterns and retrain their mindset, I want to learn more about your personal history that is behind your passion for this topic. I know it's always easier to sort of adapt the lessons someone is trying to share with you when you know it's come not only from their educational background but from their lived personal experiences. So do you mind sharing some of your personal story about how you even began this journey to change your own mindset and now teach others how to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and I think a lot of it's very relatable, especially depending upon how old you are. You know I was raised when we still got beat, so if you're of that generation you'll relate. You know I was raised by my dad because my mom struggled with addiction issues and my dad remarried twice to very let's say what I call now unhealed women, because I'm trying to extend them grace. They were both very violent. So I was raised in a very violent household, physically violent, emotionally violent, which is why I ran away at 13 years old. I thought running away at 13 is safer than this home. So I ran away at 13, raised myself, figured it out. I returned home around 19. When I say returned home, I mean I got back in contact when I was an adult and I knew that they can no longer control any of my life for the most part, you know, because anytime I was at home it was very violent. I was getting beat, I was getting abused. When I did go to stay with my mom, there was sexual abuse on that side. So there was no safe place ever, which is really interesting. I feel like a lot of people might've experienced some of these. So from a very early age.
Speaker 2:I can say that my nervous system was in survival mode, like legit survival mode, fast forward as I became a young adult. I don't mean to skip over, but my dad ended up committing suicide. One of my little sisters then committed suicide because of his suicide and then my mom died directly after because of my dad's suicide. It was like this love story that was never mended because of her addiction issues and my dad, you know, couldn't be around her because he was trying to raise us. It was a very sad story and everyone died in the end. It's not funny, but sometimes I think about it. I'm like God. That's such a tragic love story, right, like a love that never mended, and they both ended up with partners that ended up becoming the death of them because it was due to their partner selection. I will say that as an adult looking back, and that's why our partner selections are very, very important partner selections are very, very important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, that's quite a story. Well, so many aspects of that. It's amazing. Looking at you today and knowing how far you have come is really astounding. You know, I was thinking. I know of someone that left her home, for all those reasons you're talking about, at age 12 and went and lived on the streets and did not have I don't want to call it a happy ending, but I guess have so much progress and so many learned skills like you have now. She was never able to set the healthy boundaries that it sounds like you were able to. So, first of all, I commend you, especially as such a young person, to take this on, to improve your life like that.
Speaker 2:I will say that I don't know if I was taking it. The one thing that always served me is that I was the black sheep, I was a fighter. So it's not so much that I was trying to learn, I just had this mindset from being raised in a violent household, I just had this fighter in me, that nothing was taking me down and that mindset kind of served me, even when it came to dealing with my own depression, dealing with my own anxiety, like I would feel that emotion and that would be just. I just had this tough way of coaching myself. I just thought I was pathetic and I was like get up, get up.
Speaker 2:Like I just had this weird mindset, this fighter inside me, this rebel that refused to be taken down, even by myself. So that's probably what served me. Like my older sister's not like me she's very soft. She did not have the same outcome I have. She's doing very well, but you know she still has to take mood stabilizers and struggles with anxiety. She struggles more than me. So I don't know if it's my fighting, rebellious nature that helped, but I think it definitely did, especially when it came to finding a way to not end up like my family, like I always say to myself that they didn't make it, but I will. You know, I just had this mindset that it ends with me. I will rise for us all, and I just took that to heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, clearly you did. That's really something. Well, that right, there is the proof of the power of mindset. So good point. It's true, that's pretty incredible. So now mindset training. So that is about well, I'll read your quote. Mindset training is about aligning your thoughts, emotions and actions with the life you desire, and everything you need is already inside of you. I love that you've mentioned that. The problem isn't that you don't have it, it's that you've been conditioned to forget.
Speaker 1:So, I think that's a great quote. So do you want to start with how someone, especially in your situation that was so difficult? Where would someone like that begin Number one?
Speaker 2:Everyone's individual. I call it. We're on our individual soul journeys. You know what I mean, and there's no two that are the same For me.
Speaker 2:I wasn't there when my dad committed suicide, but I was very close to my sister on the path to her suicide and that time I was only teaching yoga and meditation. So I was subtly guiding her from the little information I had and through meditation and yoga I was seeing her transform. There were moments where I was like she's going to make it, you know, but obviously she ended up not making it. So it was just trying to understand which has been constantly my driving force, trying to understand which has been constantly my driving force. So when I was trying to understand suicide, it was kind of a path that revealed itself, because I was like you know what is suicide? It's the momentum of the mind, like they can't get out of their negative thought patterns. But then I started studying spirituality and I feel like suicide was the consequence of spiritual suffocation, Like we have unmet needs. And then the dots started to connect. So if I was going to tell someone that is struggling with any type of depression, anxiety, nervous system training is literally step one, and let me elaborate on this for a second because, like I said in the beginning of my life and so many of us, anytime we have an experience that triggers us into fight, flight or freeze. This could be an argument. This doesn't have to be big. You know abusive situations. This could be a little argument.
Speaker 2:If we don't do something with that energetic charge, if we don't tell our nervous system after the experience that it's okay, we're safe now, our nervous system stays locked in survival. You can look to the wild Anytime an antelope, let's say, outruns a lion and it survives. You will see it shake vigorously. It's releasing that energetic charge. It's bringing itself back to homeostasis. Right, we continue to layer, to layer, to layer to layer.
Speaker 2:Our nervous systems are so fricking, locked up in survival that it is no wonder why we cannot move towards anything we desire. And so that's why, for me, number one, the power of pattern interrupters. Because we are so locked, we have to start training our nervous system. Our nervous system does not need another story, which is why I don't believe in therapy. That's my own personal thing, I know. I don't want to offend anybody. It doesn't need another story. It needs a signal. It needs to be signaled that you are safe and we can trigger this all day long to start creating that pathway. So for me, number one is pattern interrupters period and I could I could elaborate on how to do those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, definitely I'd like to hear what those pattern interrupters are and what it looks like.
Speaker 2:Well, let me just let me scoot back a little bit. How I found them was, like I said, I used to struggle with rumination of the mind, depression, anxiety, Like I could not get out of my head to save my life. Are you familiar with that? Do you struggle with negative?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like they say, people's thoughts are repetitive. What is it like? 90% of your thoughts are just repeat thoughts. So everyone is doing that and it's a matter of yeah. What are those thoughts you keep telling yourself over and over again? Are they positive or negative, or how are they affecting you?
Speaker 2:Well, the science behind that really unlocks everything. The reason why your thoughts are repeating is because the mind seeks patterns, because patterns signal safety. It literally, even though it's repeating something negative, it signals safety because it's familiar. So we have to interrupt these patterns because right now the shitty thoughts that are tumbling around your head feel safe, even though they feel like crap.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It seeks patterns also to preserve energy. Why? Because you need energy to survive. Heaven forbid, you need a burst of energy to run. You know what I mean. So these are all primitive patterns that we still have anchored on a cellular level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is so interesting, isn't it, how something that can be so negative to your health, like a negative thought pattern, also represents, like you said, safety. So, yeah, you can see why people hold on to them so much. Yeah, you can see why people hold on to them so much, because the fear of the unknown that Joe Dispenza speaks of.
Speaker 2:The unknown is where you create right. So pattern interrupters number one is what I like to work with when I work with people?
Speaker 1:Are there a certain number of them or?
Speaker 2:For me personally, what I will always say is at the moment of energetic charge is the doorway. So as soon as you get in a fight, you scream whatever happens, take a moment and break that pattern, like just the same way, like in the wild. Like I say, as soon as they're safe, as soon as they're free, they shake right. So anytime I'm having a moment and emotional charge, that's extreme. There's a couple of things you could do. The most convenient thing to do is breath and it's a strong breath through the nose and exhale through your mouth, and you do it like so hard that it's like you're going to pass out, like I'm aggressive. You know what I mean. Like if you want change, you've got to fight for it. Stop fighting the external world and you have to like really shake your system, and so it's. Do you want me to do?
Speaker 1:it? Yeah, and so it's. Do you want me to do it? Yeah, and how many is it? Like a certain number of seconds, I do it until I'm lightheaded.
Speaker 2:I do it until I can't think. Because that's what we want to do. We want to clear the thought pattern, like get it out of your head. I do high jumps too If I'm alone, like I like to jump and do athletic stuff, but that's not always accessible to everybody.
Speaker 2:If you're in your car having a road rage, you can't really get out of the car and jump. So it's just a really strong, like hard, like it's like so hard, marla, like it's hard. You do that like three to five times. You're kind of dizzy and I know that might sound aggressive, but you have to go hard when you're trying to create change. The one thing I will say that I do like to do when you finish the three to five breaths, since your mind is clear of thought, that is the most powerful time to insert an affirmation Like I released the role of victim and reclaim my power, or just I reclaim my power. It's a pattern. Interrupt, don't underestimate that tiny micro dose. It's so powerful because you are in complete alignment, because at that moment there are no thoughts circling, your energy is in alignment and you can insert a pattern and over time you start to redirect the momentum. That's just a pattern interrupter, though, so that doesn't necessarily soothe the nervous system.
Speaker 1:So is that a quick intake, quick exhale for three to five breaths fast.
Speaker 2:You do it until you, until the, until you can think like that's what we're trying to do, right.
Speaker 1:Cause you're passed out. No, I'm kidding. No, you won't pass out, you won't feel it to yourself.
Speaker 2:But you know what I mean. I'll do like three. I go hard. It depends. Some people don't know how to breathe. It might be a little more difficult for them to unlock that breath. They might just like little sniffs Like you got hard. You know what I mean. You really have to learn how to pump, pump the energy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that gives your mind a break and an opportunity to put in a new thought, but, like you said, it's not soothing the nervous system. So what would be the next step you would take?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's not soothing the nervous system. The nervous system work that I do. I do a really gentle foundational micro reset. Those are done first thing in the morning, as soon as your feet hit the floor and right before you go to bed, and that's something very subtle, depending upon what the person's struggling with. You always do need some affirmation, whether it's I am chosen, I am safe, nothing complicated. You always want to use clear, concise words when you are using an affirmation. You know what I mean. I'm going to actually post a video on my YouTube channel. I'll give you the link. I'm actually going to show what it looks like this week when I post. But it's so simple. It's so simple and it's so underestimated, but it's signaling safety to your body.
Speaker 2:All you do when you do a foundational reset. You stand with your feet shoulder width apart. You're going to take one step forward on an inhale, on the exhale, when your second foot joins your other foot, you say your affirmation I am safe, let it land in your body, and then you put one hand on your heart, one hand on your stomach, your womb, and you literally just sway right to left, just like you're holding a baby. You know what I mean, and you just calm, you're basically reparenting yourself. Think about it like that, that sway, it's like you're reparenting yourself. And then you do it one more time, you do three rounds and you release it and that's it. You do that in the morning when you wake up. You do that before you go to bed at night. It's like, I know, we don't want to complicate healing and we always want to think we need to go somewhere and pay a lot of money. You guys, we are like I say we are innate healers. Everything we have is within us. We just have to reparent our nervous system. You do that.
Speaker 2:I mean, I did it for four days with something I was struggling with, something that was being triggered. Let's say, within three days I was like, wow, it's just, it's that feeling, that tightness, that vice. It just it's gone, it's missing, and you're literally like looking for it. You're like where, where is it? Like you find yourself scanning your own body, trying to find it and it's just gone. This stuff is really powerful. You know, we complicate healing. We really do Put it this way. It was so effective that I had like a 30-minute conversation with ChatGPT about it. I'm like there's no way. I just can't. I can't fully do a deep dive. There's no way. Sometimes I even doubt it myself because I like more aggressive stuff. But doubt it myself because I like more aggressive stuff. But the softer stuff is the nurturing and the reparenting that we actually need to be doing.
Speaker 1:That makes sense to me and I had heard also, if you wrap your arms around yourself almost like you would hug someone but you're hugging yourself, that that also helps calm the nervous system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that nurturing is really important and it's not performance, you guys. So it needs to be like a limp. If you're standing a slightly bent knee, like we always want to perform, right, what does this look like? And just like fall into yourself, you know. So it's not performance, it's just like a really gentle nurture. I love that, the nurturing aspect of it.
Speaker 1:I love that, the nurturing aspect of it, and also it is such a good way, I mean, I would think, for anyone to wake up in the morning to have that silence, that moment before you jump into any chaos or activity or looking at your phone or whatever. To have that time strictly for yourself, like that, to be nurturing to yourself.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like 20 seconds, like you have to be worth it, you have to think you're at least worth that 20 seconds and we all get up in our. You know our systems are locked up. Everybody's in survival mode, everybody's fear-based yeah. So I do it all the time anyway, even though you know I'm healed, so to speak. But still, it's maintenance. This is a lifestyle, because we are constantly getting sucker punched by life. Life doesn't stop coming. The modern life is easier. You have to have these tools in place. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I love that, that they're so simple and, like you said, they're within ourselves, so we don't have to go searching for ways to heal ourself Like we can do this at home. We make it a daily practice and, like you said, aren't you worth it to take 20 seconds or two minutes out of your day?
Speaker 2:before you start. That's another talk. That's just how much self-love we lack. You're not worth it. Sometimes you're not worth it, like when I started my thing, I didn't think I was worth it. I wasn't trying to figure it out for me because I wanted to survive. I was doing it for my family. So if you need to do it for some people can get better. Let's just say people that are overweight, like they get in shape because they want to be there to see their grandkids grow up. I hear that a lot. They can't do it for themselves, but they can do it for someone else. So if that's the case, do whatever you got to do to get it done. If you can't do it for yourself, do it for someone else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that is important to have a strong reason why you're doing it and starting any new habit, even something as simple as what you're describing. Like you said, your brain wants things to be habitual so it doesn't have to exert that energy. So even when you're starting this new little one minute routine seems stressful to the body initially because you're bringing in something new. Yeah, it's resistance, resistance. Yeah, we'll always feel the resistance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to do the work. If you don't want to do the work, then just stay the same. You know what I mean. But this is not hard. You have to do the work. If you don't want to do the work, then just stay the same. You know what I mean, but this is not hard. The thing is, I feel like people just even myself they'll just resist. If it's not hard, if you don't suffer, it can't possibly work. So they just won't even try. Like even when I was talking to my sister, she's like what do I need to do? I need to read a book. I, angie, I'm like I'm not going to fight with you about it.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a book called the I think it's called the Kaizen Way and it's about taking one tiny, tiny step towards your goal. And so this man found that when he was helping people to quit smoking, he just started with the most simple thing. He said just tell me when you're going to go out and smoke a cigarette, just let me know. I'm not telling you not to do it, just acknowledge that you're doing it. And then it was like one tiny, tiny step, but that momentum built into something really powerful. So, instead of getting overwhelmed because you're trying to take on like a massive change whether it's a diet or your health routine or whatever it is take that little step. Same with meditating, like they'll say you know, just meditate for a minute, minute exactly, and then it'll build up and you'll know, gradually want to do it more and more. But, yeah, don't overwhelm your system when you're trying to really shift things.
Speaker 2:It's more powerful to take those little steps you know that's so, so true, because even when I've taken online courses, sometimes I'll go for the big one and then I never finish it and I feel bad about myself like, oh, I suck versus go for a little one that's one hour long, you complete it and you feel good about yourself. So, like you say, it builds that momentum. Start small and build what's the next step.
Speaker 2:What's the next step, even with weight loss? Just remove everything from your house. Don't worry about anything else. Just remove the junk, don't replace it. Just start there. Just start by stopping. You know whatever you want and then, like you say, build. I really love that, that's, that's, that's yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a fan, well. So do you have other pattern interrupters, or is that the main thing?
Speaker 2:I mean, I do, like I said, I do a lot of athletic pattern interrupters first, but for anyone who's starting, I would say just anytime you have an emotional charge, if you can remember, use that breath to break the pattern and just slap any affirmation you want. I'm the architect of my life. I release the role of victim and reclaim my power, because so oftentimes when we're angry upset, we're giving our power away. We're always giving our power away. You know what I mean? Yeah, I reclaim my power, I reclaim my power. I reclaim my power, I reclaim my power. It just start feeding your mind that I would start there.
Speaker 2:And then, obviously, the foundational micro reset, a big part of my programs which are actually dedicated to replacing negative thought patterns. This is the fun stuff. I have a lot of fun stuff. Like I say, I focus heavily on rhythmic patterns because the mind seeks patterns right.
Speaker 2:So I have a lot of audios that are geared towards different mindset struggles, whether you struggle with love, whether you struggle with financial goals, body goals, just faith, insecurity.
Speaker 2:They're two minutes long and they're like pop songs because when I was studying the mind, the mind is very receptive when it's entertained and a big part of affirmations and why they don't work is because they create cognitive dissonance, meaning, if you're someone that doesn't feel loved and doesn't have a relationship and doesn't have a family or anything to show that they're loved and doesn't have a relationship and doesn't have a family or anything to show that they're loved, if they start saying affirmations like I am loved, you don't feel loved, so you're actually creating more harm than good.
Speaker 2:There's a certain way to frame affirmations where you basically bypass the mind's defenses, because if your right brain says I'm loved and your left brain says, yeah, right, where, show me, it's like a bad marriage in your brain. Everything has to be moving in the same direction, which is why I talk about alignment a lot. They have to agree and move as a team, meaning your right and left brain, your conscious, your subconscious mind, whatever language you want to use. That's why I kind of speak to all of it, because not all of it resonates with everyone. So the way my audios are framed, one.
Speaker 1:So the way my audios are framed I use this is kind of where my NLP. So do you want?
Speaker 2:to explain what that is Neuro-linguistic. I don't love it. I'm not going to say I'm not really a fan. The only thing I loved from neuro-linguistic programming was the presuppositions and the embedded commands. Everything else didn't resonate with me. You know we're on our own paths. I always say study. Everything else didn't resonate with me. You know we're on our own paths. I always say study, follow what resonates with you. You don't have to do all the kool-aid like if it doesn't resonate. Don't push yourself. That's why keep listening to podcasts, keep reading books. You'll find your person. With yoga teaching, with fitness, you got to find your coach. You know what I mean find your person. So that was just for me. Personally, I liked only the presuppositions and the embedded commands.
Speaker 2:It's a way, like I say, to use words as signals. So if I'm someone that's struggling in love, my audio would say something like my heart is a mansion, filled with many rooms that have yet to be explored, because it just sounds almost like a rhythmic riddle. So your mind at no point is challenging it and you would be surprised how powerful saying something like that is. And then the affirmation that follows it. What does it say? My heart is a mansion. I'm releasing what no longer serves. I'm embracing something. I'm like releasing what my heart is a mansion, yeah. Releasing what no longer serves my heart as a mansion, embracing all that I deserve. My heart is a mansion, yeah. So it's like you're releasing what no longer serves, embracing all that you deserve. When you frame it like that, there's no resistance and I know it probably sounds like something that wouldn't be effective, but the words act as signals for what needs to be transformed. I spend a lot of time on these audios.
Speaker 1:I could understand that being effective because, well, I think of two things. One is commercials with jingles Like that's what people remember and they keep repeating it. And the other thing is I know when I used to do boudoir photography and it would be. You know, people get very stiff in front of a camera, they get very nervous, and especially in that kind of intimate setting, and I would always play music and find the music that they liked and made them feel good, because music releases the analytical brain and it's just embeds in your body and in your emotions and you're able to express emotions easier that way. So what you're doing I can see that being affected.
Speaker 2:yeah, and when you start singing along about love in this way and you're having fun doing it, all of a sudden you just start feeling differently about love. The next time a conversation comes up about relationships, you're not in that reactive space. It literally transforms you from the inside out. And these programs, they're 30 day programs. They all come with digital journals. So after you finish your two minute session, there's a digital journal where you write the same affirmation and writing forces you to structure, so you're embedding it on another level. You know what I mean. You're kind of hitting it from every angle, you know. And then you, you can't not move. They're so good, you're just like you're naturally moved. So you're moving, you're listening, you're, you're saying it, you're seeing it, you're writing it. You're literally attacking it from every angle. So your shitty thought about love has nowhere to hide. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just, it's a really fun way in. And again, we complicate healing.
Speaker 1:I'd like that you have these programs for all different things, because it does relate to every topic. You know whether it's love or finances, or health or whatever it is it's still your mindset that's controlling how far you go toward the life you actually really want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So it's a combination of everything. The audios alone definitely help, but I'm always observing myself, because I will not promote anything unless I am proof of concept. So I was noticing when I started my audios long ago. I was able to attract the right relationships, attract the financial goals, but I would sabotage it or I would do something. I couldn't hold it. And that's when I also discovered you need both nervous system training, because your nervous system decides what you get to keep and you can receive but not hold. You know, I mean, it's really interesting. I was able to receive but I wasn't able to hold.
Speaker 2:The minute I had a relationship, the minute I had money, I would release it. And that all ties back to the anchor of childhood programming, cause I never saw successful love stories. Love looked like danger, love looked like it hurt. So the minute I would attract in the love story I wanted, you know, I'd have it for a while. But then I would do something same with money.
Speaker 2:Like you know, I always heard that we had money problems, even though we didn't. You know what I mean? It's just that's just that generation always complained about money and so the minute I had money I would spend it. I thought I was spending it because I was making money. This is fun. I'm spending it, I'm shopping. No system is not comfortable holding it. So it's really. There's a lot of science behind this and it's really magical when you start connecting those dots. So that's why I say you need it all. You need to do the nervous system training. You need to also use the audios to stay in alignment with the life that you desire. But when you get the life that you desire, you have to make sure that your nervous system allows you to keep it.
Speaker 1:So how do you do that If you've you've acquired what it is you want, whether it's money, health, love, whatever it is and you have the tendency to self-sabotage that. So what do they do at that point, when they've already called it in?
Speaker 2:That's why the nervous system training has to be part of the equation. It's one big, beautiful art piece. You know what I mean. It's not about what you do first, it's just you need to make sure you're doing it all. The nervous system training is imperative. I think that should be first, but there's no reason why you can't be doing it all at the same time With little two-minute sessions. There's no reason why to not be doing it all.
Speaker 1:So when you talk about nervous system training, you're talking about what you suggested earlier, in the morning and in the evening, with the two steps. Hand on the heart, and it's always three rounds.
Speaker 2:That's enough, like I know. I know it's like, doesn't it is. It's enough, guys. Obviously, we can go more in depth and it can be customized. Enough, guys. Obviously, we can go more in depth and it can be customized. But you want to train yourself to move through fear itself before you start customizing it to financial goals, relationships, just like you said earlier. Step one yeah.
Speaker 1:So step one is make that a regular practice in the morning and at night before you go to bed.
Speaker 2:I've been doing it for the last two weeks. I'm just like it's crazy so it's so powerful. You know there's other things I do, but I don't want to get too all over the place. I do meridian point activation. What is that? Meridian point activation is basically massaging a meridian point that I do the bottom of the foot for fear, the top of the foot for anger, and I focus on the inside of the angle ankle for overthinking. There's obviously more, but those are the three I like to focus on.
Speaker 2:And you just again, a one minute session, just sitting down with intention of what you want to transform, like if you had a fight the night before and you're angry about something or you're just angry about whatever. You will sit down with that intention. You bring it to the forefront of your mind, not to activate it. This is what I like about therapy not to activate it, to transform it, to release it. So you sit down. You always want to settle into your body. You guys do a body scan and then you bring your foot up and I have videos for this.
Speaker 2:I can't really show you right now. You know you put your knuckle in the bottom of your foot and you just press on that meridian point while you know you're releasing that story. You're releasing that story, you know. You do it just for like 30 seconds. You don't have to do both sides If you don't want. I'm a Libra so I always have to do both. I need balance. Just really, you kind of push, you'll feel it. It hurts. It hurts and you'll know that it's releasing, because the pain starts to release. And when you put your foot down, you kind of just bounce your feet up and down. You will feel the flow flush through your body in one session. It won't fully release it yet, but you will feel the flow again.
Speaker 2:Very powerful, so magical, so easy. And the same thing with the top of the foot anger. You know what I mean. You kind of just bring whatever you're angry about to the forefront, bring what you're fearing Fear of being alone, fear of running out of money, fear of whatever. But you have no secrets from yourself. Don't lie. Be real. Are you afraid of being alone? Are you afraid of running out of money? This is the moment. Transform it, let it go, release it. It's okay.
Speaker 2:So how do you massage the top of your foot? Where are you? It's like if you bend over. It's between the big toe and the second toe. It's kind of like right in the. You can look it up online. It's really easy, but I can't show you because I have a skirt on or else I would lift my foot up. But I just do both of them at the same time put my knuckle right into the spots when I breathe. But also, like I say, with intention. If you don't sit down with intention, you're not really doing anything. If you sit down and you're disconnected, you're not doing anything. I think that's why shorter sessions are more powerful. Don't force yourself to sit into a meditation that you're going to be in and out of. Like you said earlier, one minute, focused intention it carries way more vibrational weight than putting on a 15 minute, 20 minute, 30 minute and just fading in and out. So everything needs to be intentional, guys short micro recess.
Speaker 1:So the bottom of the foot, the top of the foot and what was the third one on the foot? Bottom of the foot is fear.
Speaker 2:The top of the foot is anger and then your ankle bone. On the inside, about three fingers up, there's a spot. These are tender spots. You'll feel them. That's for overthinking and doubt. Those are key emotions I think we all struggle with.
Speaker 1:So you could do that as the daily practice as well and not wait until something triggers you, right.
Speaker 2:I think everything should be preventative. It's like tuning. That's why I say it's constant tuning. I put myself through like a car wash every morning. I say I get out of bed, I take my three steps make my coffee, sit down, do my meridian point and then you know I'll listen to one of my soul sync sessions. It's just, it's so quick, you guys. It's four minutes.
Speaker 1:Come on now. Yeah, you're worth it. Yeah, you're worth it. Every single person listening to this is worth it. It's worth that time for yourself. So do you have other actionable things people can do? These are great. Those are my focus, those are the most important ones Releasing your nervous system, moving your energy and your thought patterns Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's awesome. Those are so easy to to do. It really is. It really is. I'm going to send you a link to the video I'm posting that will show the exact foundational micro reset for the nervous system. With that there's going to be a link, there'll be a free audio and a daily tracker because, like I say, we have to do it every single day. So the daily tracker keeps you accountable. It's digital so that you have it on your phone. You just check it to ensure that you do it. So I'll send you that. I'll send you some free stuff for your viewers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll definitely put all this in the show notes, whatever link she sent me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, cause I want you guys to just feel it, check it out you know I have so much free stuff because I want you guys to start training. Because when you feel it, you get excited and then it starts to pull you forward. It pulls you into your journey, it pulls you into your becoming, you start remembering, you start releasing the layers.
Speaker 1:I do like how you said. It's not just an analytical thing. This is not just about what's the homework? Let me do it, let me say it, it's embodying it. You really have to have, like you said, the intention and the emotion, be feeling it. Take the time, don't rush through it. Even though they're very short to do, some people would still probably try and rush through it and just be like I got to get this over with. But instead, maybe view it as something you're adding to your own energy. You're adding to your own energy, you're nurturing yourself.
Speaker 2:You're taking time for yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's no different than what taking your vitamin.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Yeah, making your morning coffee, that's important yeah, that's right you know, I would normally say, if you don't feel like it, don't do it, because you're disconnected. But when you're trying to create change, you kind of do have to, you know, push a little bit. That's why I try to make everything very enjoyable, very fun. Everything is music based. I spent a lot of time finding music and doing the vocals and making it a very enjoyable, fun experience, because that's the only way I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, you're right, we like to be entertained.
Speaker 2:And when we're entertained, like I said, the mind is receptive, yeah, which is why you know, social media and all this stuff is so dangerous, because it's very entertaining for us and we are absorbing, absorbing, absorbing because our mind's defense is down, because we're black scanning, and that's why we're also miserable, because we're absorbing what they're programming into us, and that's why we're all so miserable, because we're absorbing what they're programming into us. You got to be really careful with entertainment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with that. So what would you say, just off the top of your head, to someone who is struggling with self-sabotage? I mean, I know you've given them a list of these things that they can do, so that's, of course, an easy way for them to move forward. But, on a personal level, is there anything you would say to maybe encourage them to try these things, with the understanding of how difficult it might be?
Speaker 2:All I can speak to is what works for me and then give a resonance of people resonates. It's understanding that sabotage is a pattern and that pattern is something that you trained yourself into and that pattern is your mind and your nervous system trying to keep you safe. If you're someone that self-sabotages and you understand that it's a pattern that's trying to keep you safe, it's almost like you have what is it Empathy for yourself? Is that the right word? Because we punish ourselves like, oh God, I did that again. We're so mean to ourselves, instead of looking at it like, okay, that's a pattern, because my body's trying to keep me safe, okay, so maybe how can I signal safety in a different way?
Speaker 2:I think it's the way that you speak to yourself about it. You know what I mean. Instead of punishing yourself and be like, oh, my God, you're such a loser, you're such a this, like, oh, why are you doing that again? Stop that. It's a pattern embedded, and it's embedded to keep you safe, because patterns signal safety, no matter if they're sabotaging you, no matter if they're creating a miserable life. So just think, okay, how can I signal safety in a different way? You know what I mean. You really have to reparent yourself. Talk to yourself like you're parenting a child. You have a child sitting here that's screaming and yelling. What do you need? You really have to act like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I've always heard that. I've heard people say I was so stupid or why did I do that, or I couldn't. You know, you hear that all the time when they feel they did something wrong or it didn't work out. And when you take those words, if you were to them, write your words down on a piece of paper and then go back later and read them, I think we'd be appalled at what we say to ourselves. And also, if you take those words and you're like, would I say this to my child? Would?
Speaker 1:I say this to a little kid? Of course not, you wouldn't so.
Speaker 2:Your mind is always on. I say that your mind is always on. And you know, I caught myself doing it. Like three weeks ago I was in Pilates. I just couldn't get through it and I'm like, oh my God, why are you so weak? And I said it in my head so loud that I caught myself. I was like, oh my God, angela, and I in that moment I was like you, why are you? You're dehydrated. I had to flip it. I know I'm fast, I close the gap fast. You guys, here's the deal if you catch yourself with a negative self-talk course, correct it, correct it fast. You know we're human, close the gap as fast as possible. That's when I was like you didn't get enough sleep, you didn't drink enough water. Like you're not weak, you're strong. You know what I mean. Like I had to correct it. You have to, to correct it. You have to catch yourself because again, that accumulates over time. We wonder why we don't love ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I love that that you self-corrected immediately, you know, as long as you notice it, and then you self-correct. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:There's another word I like to use when I'm self-correcting myself too. A lot of people will be like oh, I don't have a boyfriend, I'm not in a relationship, I don't have that job Any of the stuff that naturally comes out of our mouth. I always say that if you can catch it, say yet it's really easy. I'll never be in a relationship. Yet it flips it around to a possibility. You know what I mean. You want to flip your problems to possibilities and you have to train that, train that, train that and eventually you'll stop talking like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one word makes such a difference when you add yet Yep.
Speaker 2:Try it Like, yet I'll be like ah yet.
Speaker 1:Comes out of your mouth Yet yeah, I'd like that to keep that possibility open. Well, hopefully people are taking notes and will also look at your videos or take part in your programs, because all of this information is so good and there's so much information available out there about how to heal something physically. You know you can find a lot of that, but I find the mental stuff is more challenging. So I love the fact that you have learned this for yourself and turned your own life around and now you have these very simple daily things. People can do that require almost no effort really. So anyone, anyone could do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it doesn't have to be expensive guys, it doesn't have to be time consuming. You don't have to suffer Like you really don't. Yeah, you don't have to be expensive guys, it doesn't have to be time consuming you don't have to suffer, like you really don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't have to suffer, and you're suffering so much more now than it would take to implement a new habit and then course correct.
Speaker 2:And the beautiful part about really starting to release your nervous system. Train your energy so you're removing these emotional blocks, your nervous system. Train your energy so you're removing these emotional blocks. When that flow starts to happen within your body, you get. First of all, you start moving with confidence, you start moving with certainty, your thoughts are clear and I feel that's really when people find their purpose. You know, that's how I started discovering all the stuff I'm doing now. I live a life of purpose. I wake up every day, I do what I love, and it was all birthed from trauma, but it was also from healing the trauma and then discovering all of this.
Speaker 2:And this is my personal journey. Like, my things are very specific to me and also, when you find your way, you'll probably find something very specific to you. No soul journey is the same. That's why it's like, with all this stuff that's going on social media, the people that are really successful have their individual little thing and that really does happen when you start to heal your vessel. You know these are vessels. Our bodies are vessels. They can be a prison or they can be a vehicle to really serve your life journey. You have to use these things properly. So that's why I use the body to train the mind, use the body to train the nervous system.
Speaker 1:So well said, yeah, I like that how your body, depending how you use it, can be for good or hold you back.
Speaker 2:It could be a prison, yeah, or a vehicle of service.
Speaker 1:Well, have you noticed in anyone that you've worked with transformations, and what did that look like?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it's funny, I do, you know. It just looks like it looks for all of us. Just, you just start feeling good, You're more excited about life. I'm actually working with someone in my building with some infertility stuff, with the nervous system training. She has been doing everything. I didn't really want to insert myself in that way, but I would just listen to her struggle and she started doing acupuncture the poor thing. And every time I would say to her I'm like, how are you? I wouldn't say anything. It's just like her nervous system is so clenched that she's like good, it's like she would take a breath and slapping the smile on her face and big eyes like trying to stay positive, and it's like, oh my God, baby, her nervous system is like clenched. So I've been working with her and I'm super excited because I know we're going to have a baby.
Speaker 1:Well, that would be amazing. Yeah, I mean, they're the cutest couple.
Speaker 2:You know, you just kind of end up being like me. You're going to be like this goofy bouncy cheerleader end up being like me.
Speaker 1:You're going to be like this goofy bouncy cheerleader Life trick guys. Well, it's good to have people like you in it that are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can be a cheerleader for so many people Once you find your way. I feel like it's our duty to hold the light for others. I have to continue to do the work, and let me I just want to say one thing. The other day, I was riding my bike on the path and I'm in an intimate relationship with this guy and he's like my next teacher in life. I really, truly believe in intimate relationships, moving towards them. I know a lot of people in the world are avoiding them, but intimate relationships will show you exactly where you are. They're very provocative at triggering you, and I'm in an intimate relationship right now. That's very powerful. That I manifested.
Speaker 2:But we were having a moment and I was riding my bike on the bike path and I ran into my girlfriend and I was kind of frazzled and she looks at me and she's like oh my gosh, don't you teach this stuff. You can't handle this. And I just thought to myself you guys, it's not about being a robot. Emotions fully, but have the tools to recalibrate. Go home, sit down, alchemize the experience Meaning. What role did I play in this? What is, what's my unmet need? Am I communicating? Am I being vulnerable. All of it is part of your expansion. This is why we need these intimate partners. You know what I mean, but it was just funny how sassy she was being with me and I was like I just didn't even bother with the response.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's not about being a cheerleader all the time. It's about being able to feel your emotions fully, enjoying this human experience that we're having, but having the tools to recalibrate back to baseline and continue your expansion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's how I feel about healing. You know, when it's healing from autoimmune, it's not about like, okay, now I'll never have any other health issue or anything going forward. No, it's you learn to ask questions and be curious and intuitively, like you said, follow what resonates with you. There's always going to be different health issues that come along in life, so it's just a matter of developing a lifestyle that is able to handle. You know, like you said, having the tools at hand that will help you handle those situations throughout life.
Speaker 2:I mean, that is the evolution of self. That is how you evolve as a human. Like you say, you're seeking answers and through that journey you heal. And every time you learn something, you become more expansive. You become bigger, brighter, more knowledgeable. You're more powerful, more confident. You start moving with certainty, like it pulls you out of bed in morning, when you really start standing in your power. We underestimate the human experience. We really do. It's beautiful, powerful, full of tears and laughter and all the good stuff.
Speaker 1:That's right, well, and you're coming at it from a very healthy place. Now I can tell just by speaking to you. So I commend you for your drive and whatever that was in your spirit that made you keep going and made you want to keep going and searching for answers, and now lending everything you've learned to others in the way that you're doing.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:That, to me, is the purpose of life.
Speaker 2:We're a conscious collective. When one rises, we all rise.
Speaker 1:I love that when one rises, we all rise. So I have a couple last questions I want to ask you what was your biggest obstacle Like when you went out at age 13 and you were struggling? What was it that was an obstacle that you had to overcome Staying?
Speaker 2:alive then. But God you know, literally just trying to find somewhere to sleep, that's such a blur. Honestly I think I can't really speak to that because it's just such a blur. I mean, that's kind of what trauma does. You don't remember a lot. I do remember just always trying to find somewhere to sleep and sleeping in bushes and having to shoplift candy to eat. So there's not really much I can say to that. Unfortunately that part because I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I have no recollection of my childhood other than like trauma and beatings none of the good stuff. But I will say the biggest obstacle when I really started healing in my 30s was getting out of victim mode, because I was positive that everybody was doing something to me and I just couldn't get out of victim mode. It wasn't until I was sitting with myself after another very abusive relationship, trying to figure out why he does this to me, why he does this to me for some reason I don't know if it was consciousness awaking within me the lens flipped and I said why did I allow this? And in that moment everything changed and it was always lack of self-love, lack of feeling safe. It just started to reveal itself.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't until I was crucifying him in my mind, like he's a this, he's a this. Why did he do this? All I did was love him like da-da-da-da-da-da-da, having that moment that we all have. Like how could he do this to me? I was this, I was that, I was that. And then I was like why did I allow that? And that kind of opened up a questions who didn't make you feel loved? What do they do? You know, it becomes its own journey just discovering. When was the first time you felt unloved? When was the first time you didn't feel chosen? When was the first? When did you write this story? When did you anchor this belief? Okay, now what?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Getting out of victim mode was my biggest struggle. I couldn't see outside of myself.
Speaker 1:I couldn't see anything but abusers abusing me. Well, my next question was what is the biggest lesson that you learned during this time? The biggest lesson, yeah, self-love.
Speaker 2:The biggest lesson was learning how to love myself and learning how to fight for myself and believing that I deserved to be loved to fight for myself and believing that I deserved to be loved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a massive one. I mean, it took a lot of work because I just it doesn't matter, like, if you're not loved, how can you think you're lovable? I thought, you know, the biggest struggle was actually it's hard for me because this journey has been so long. No, no, midlife. I thought I loved myself because I was popular, I had friends, I loved what I did, like I was in the entertainment industry. I had all the things that looked like I should love myself. When I had this life, I was like this yeah, of course I love myself. I had a boyfriend. Yeah, I had all this stuff.
Speaker 2:But you know how you love yourself? Based on how you let people treat you, especially your intimate partners. They cheat on you and you're begging for them back. They cheat on you, they do something to abandon you and you immediately put yourself under them and they're on the pedestal and you're begging for them to come back to you. You are lacking self-love. Someone cheats on you. You should not put yourself under them at any point and I always found myself doing that. I was always like begging for them back, like trying to prove that I was better. I was this I was, that you know what I mean. That's how you know you don't love yourself. All that stuff is very telling. That's why intimate relationships are very telling. Move towards them. You think you're healed. Move towards them and get to the next layer of your healing because it'll show you, like I say, exactly where you are Pay attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah, such good advice coming out. So the very last question is what was the biggest kindness shown to you during your struggles? God kindness.
Speaker 2:Kindness I mean honestly. It was myself to myself. I was very. I went into cave mode. I shut my life down. Not a lot of people do that, so I wouldn't say it was extended by anybody other than myself. I started taking myself out on dates, I started cooking for myself, I started doing all the things that I wanted to do without my plus one. I was waiting for a plus one to do all this and I was feeling lonely and sad. You know what I mean. So I just started doing it for myself and extending that kindness to myself and like again, loving, nurturing myself is when everything shifted.
Speaker 2:All the healing, all the love, all the kindness. It's not something that's going to happen from somebody. If you seek externally for someone to be kind to you, to love you, they have the power to take it away and then you're left with yourself again. So you have to completely fill your own vessel with kindness, with love, with gratitude, because, again, like I say, our vessels can only carry so much. So if it's filled with insecurity, doubt, fear, how much room is left for love light? You know, kindness, like you say, it's all us. It's all us. It always circles back to us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Again, like you said and we talked about at the very beginning, that power to heal is within ourselves. It's not in the outer world. Here we all have that capacity to love ourselves and to heal ourselves.
Speaker 2:When you heal yourself, you love yourself. Anyone that comes into your life is an addition and it's a power. It's a powerhouse. If you are unhealed and have an anxious attachment style and you're insecure, these relationships are not going to be enjoyable because you're giving your power away and they have the power to hurt you. I've been there for a very big part of my life. It's not good you.
Speaker 1:I've been there for a very big part of my life. It's not good. Well, I'm glad we all get to learn from your experience and hear these profound words of wisdom. Thank you so much for being here today and sharing such a vulnerable part of your story too.
Speaker 2:You know I'm turning 50 this year and I've been working on a book. It's called Echoes of Healing. It's dark but it's so good, it sounds good. I love the title Very therapeutic. I was like crying. I was like oh my God, it's like crying when I was writing it.
Speaker 1:Well, you'll have to come back on when you have that book coming out. It'll be a while and I would love to read it, so where can people find you?
Speaker 2:I would say my YouTube channel is probably the best place, because I have all the videos there. I link all my free audios from there. Obviously, I have a website, but I would send people to my YouTube channel. It's youtubecom Angela Jean chat. Angela Jean chat. That's all my handles. Yeah, that's the best place.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that's great. Well, I've seen your videos and it's great, so I definitely recommend people go and check it out. Well, thank you so much for being here. I really enjoyed the conversation and, like I said, all the actionable steps you shared with us, as well as the wisdom. It's pretty powerful. Thank you, thanks, marla.