Have you ever thought that being raised in religion taught you to be disconnected from your body? My next guest shares how disconnected she was to her body when she started learning about nutrition and recognized how out of touch she was. This was part of why she had disordered eating. She noticed that she felt she couldn't trust her body and what it was telling her. It didn't feel safe to her in her body was a huge realization.
Join me today as I sit down with Rebecca Hambright as she shares her journey of going through her religious upbringing in the Southern Baptist Church. Her father had left their religion when she was in her youth and she watched the division in created within her home. In their faith, divorce was never an option. Later she goes to a Christian university which she struggled with especially the shame that came there.
Rebecca shares that confusion was her overall feeling as she started to really explore who she was.
Stepping out of the environment of the Christian school assisted her in really beginning her deconstruction out of her religion, especially as she started to have more of a relationship with herself.
Join us in the conversation as Rebecca shares more about her journey with health, nutrition and connecting more with her body and what it wanted.
Rebecca Hambright MS, RDN is a registered dietitian nutritionist at Wise Heart Nutrition.
Connect with Rebecca by visiting her website at: http://www.wiseheartnutrition.com/ or follow them on IG @WiseHeart_Nutrition
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Have you ever thought that being raised in religion taught you to be disconnected from your body? My next guest shares how disconnected she was to her body when she started learning about nutrition and recognized how out of touch she was. This was part of why she had disordered eating. She noticed that she felt she couldn't trust her body and what it was telling her. It didn't feel safe to her in her body was a huge realization.
Join me today as I sit down with Rebecca Hambright as she shares her journey of going through her religious upbringing in the Southern Baptist Church. Her father had left their religion when she was in her youth and she watched the division in created within her home. In their faith, divorce was never an option. Later she goes to a Christian university which she struggled with especially the shame that came there.
Rebecca shares that confusion was her overall feeling as she started to really explore who she was.
Stepping out of the environment of the Christian school assisted her in really beginning her deconstruction out of her religion, especially as she started to have more of a relationship with herself.
Join us in the conversation as Rebecca shares more about her journey with health, nutrition and connecting more with her body and what it wanted.
Rebecca Hambright MS, RDN is a registered dietitian nutritionist at Wise Heart Nutrition.
Connect with Rebecca by visiting her website at: http://www.wiseheartnutrition.com/ or follow them on IG @WiseHeart_Nutrition
Secure your seat today for my upcoming Inner Guru Activation Call.
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Have you ever considered that by being raised in Christianity, the you were conditioned and taught how to be so disconnected from your body that you actually didn't even know what your body wanted, especially when it came to nutrition and how you ate. My next guest dives into this, and it's quite beautiful. And some of the questions that she sat in, that showed and revealed to her how disconnected she was, before we dive into this interview, however, I wanted to make sure that you are aware of a call that I have a webinar actually that's coming up October 30, at 10am, Mountain Standard Time, this is something that is for those of you who are really ready to uplevel. For those that are wanting to be further connected and deeper connected to that place in sight, that inner guru that resides within every single one of us. Often, when we step out of religion, we're kind of in that floundering place of like, what, what do I feel like is true? Where's my intuition? How do I tap into that inner wisdom that I know that I think I possess, but I'm not quite sure. One morning as I was sitting in a meditation, I received this really fascinating and beautiful download from spirit from God that showed how to activate the inner guru. So in this call, we're actually going to move through a few pieces with how to deconstruct even further some of those barriers that you may be currently holding, that are preventing you from allowing for that intuition that that energy of God source to come in. And then we're going to move through a process of activating the inner guru that is extremely powerful. So this is really for those of you that are ready to move to the next level in your life, then we'll walk through a few other pieces with how to actually work with this on a day to day basis. And you are going to get access to one of my one of my content that I've created for free. So and then I have a really exciting announcement and exclusive announcement to give to those that are part of this call. So if you're feeling the call, head to my website, Amanda joy loveland.com, forward slash activation. And this really is for all of you that are listening to this podcast now. And for those that are really ready to take full accountability and radical accountability of your life and really up level and have the life that you're really desiring had to my website, Amanda loveland.com. Forward slash activation and secure your spot today for October 30. It's a Sunday at 10am. And without further ado, let's dive into the interview with Rebecca. Well, welcome, Rebecca. I'm really excited to be sitting down with you today. Thank you for joining me and saying yes to this podcast. Thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here too. Well, I love zoom, because we can connect, you know, you're in North Carolina, I'm in Utah, it's kind of kind of awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. So what made you want to reach out and share your story. Um, I grew up in the southern I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. I have since left. And definitely went through a process of deconstructing and I just really love connecting to others who went through quite a process to constructing and living here in the south, we get a lot of people who are still in, and it's not as commonplace to have these types of conversations like in person in my everyday life. Yeah. I found your podcast is that it was wonderful, just an opportunity for people to share their stories and connect with others. And it really spoke to me. That's beautiful. And here we are. So did you grow up in North Carolina then? Yep. So that's awesome. I know when I lived in, I lived in Alabama for a time and being born and raised in Utah that was you know, high Christianity, high Mormon religion. And then moving out to Alabama. I was like, holy cow. This is a whole different ballgame out here with the Bible Belt. Yeah, like wow. So tell us a little bit for those that don't know much about what was now what was the religion you were in? Southern Baptists coming back to Southern Baptist, what Christianity and Christianity will you tell us a little bit about, like what the base core beliefs are with that, that religion. I would say the core belief is that we are all born sinners, and that we need Jesus and God to save us so that we can go to heaven. And basically, within that you have to accept that you are pure evil and that you have to outsource to some other person for all of your needs. Heavy emphasis on evangelicalism and converting others missionary work, okay. How long are the missions? It's really personal. It's not required or anything. It's just like heavily applauded for people who do go on any mission trips. My grandparents were actually missionaries for their entire lives and that, like my family was just very much involved. Yeah. Oh, interesting. So you were born and raised within this religion. So tell us a little bit about that. How was that growing up for you? As probably other people with religious trauma can relate, I don't have a lot of memories of my childhood. It's hard to reach back there and put myself back in like, what my headspace was as a child. I do remember, like some feelings of just noticing the performance aspect of it all. Being in church, it was like, who raises their hands the highest who has the best. Like, Amen. You know, when the preacher is talking and who shows up to church, the earliest, who stays the latest, I remember noticing those aspects and feeling like this doesn't quite sit right with me. But every time that I would have thoughts that maybe something's wrong here, I would quickly follow it up with like, that's very sinful. I'm so sorry, God, you know, the works. My other experiences whether in childhood? I really, overall, you had a hard time with it as a child, is that what I'm hearing? Yeah, I would say like looking back, it never felt completely right or comfortable to me, but I just had no way to voice that. Or even accept it. And myself. Yeah. So are your is your family still in the religion. Um, my father left when I was in high school, which was a very confusing experience, because he just like, all of a sudden just stopped and never told anyone and I was expected to continue on going to church and all the other church activities with my mom and my sister. Like nothing had happened. My mom is still very much believes. Grandparents, obviously still believe my older sisters, not so much my younger sister. I think she's in the process of deconstructing. Yeah, I don't bring it up very often. I know that's always such a hard topic, right? Because when you're talking about your faith, that's such a personal piece. So in in your religion, why we're Why would people like what was the eternal promise for them to like, for people to come in with your grandparents being missionaries? I'm kind of curious because I don't know much about it. So what was like the what would they gain? What was the purpose? Why would they want to be a part of that religion, so that you can go to heaven, okay. If you're not saved, through Jesus, and if you're not baptized in the church, you can't go to heaven. You can't have your eternal glory, otherwise, you would be sentenced to eternal hell, and they very much preach the fire and brimstone suffering story. Interesting. So tell us about your deconstruction, like, how when did you start? I know you've kind of mentioned that you started. As a young kid, you're starting to ask those questions and kind of like, Oh, crap, I'm sorry, God, that I had those questions. Yeah. When was the start of like your unraveling. I think in high school, I started to notice how religion could have a harmful effect. My parents had a quite tumultuous relationship, I would call it emotionally mentally abusive. It was a weird time growing up in my household. And then as I said, my father just abruptly left and then the entire family dynamic changed, and no one knew what was going on. And I just witnessed my mother being just, like emotionally tortured on an everyday basis, but absolutely could not leave. Because divorce was a major sin. And it was confusing to me why she wasn't able to choose herself, or even like choose myself and my younger sister who were still living at home at the time because we were, you know, kind of unwilling participants, right. You're kind of like the bystanders that are going along for the ride. Yeah. And then I was talked into going to a small, private Christian University by my mom and my grandma Parents, and I just absolutely it was not the place that I was supposed to be. I felt like I had to try so hard to fit in with the like, good, quote unquote, good people. And I just did it. And then I started hanging out with some of the quote unquote, bad people who drank and it was like a dry town or dry county or something. I don't even remember how we would even get alcohol, but we would drink and people would smoke and you know, all the terrible, horrible bad things. And I thought those people were my friends, but I actually ended up experiencing a lot of direct harm from them. very traumatic things, and a lot of like sexual shame. Even for people who I consider to be like, my best friends there would participate in shaming me for things that I knew they were also actively doing. And it was confusing, and it was traumatic. And I was just like, I would go to still go to church every Sunday, and just be so confused. I bag confusion was like the overall feeling like I can't like I'm trying so hard to get right. But I keep messing up every time. And I keep showing up. But I don't feel welcome here. And even in my everyday life, it's made clear to me that I'm not fitting in. Just confusion. Yeah. So I decided to I had to get out of that school, it just wasn't the right environment. For me. I went to a different university. And that was probably the more like real start of deconstructing just being out of that environment. I chose to go into nutrition as a major. And I think at the time, I didn't put much stock in that choice. But I think unfortunately, my lifetime of being stripped really of like my personal identity and being told to not have a connection to self that your body is sinful and dangerous, only lead you to a path of destruction. Like really set me up for disordered eating. And then in the nutrition major, I was surrounded in classes every day with like, here's a framework of all the rules to follow, so that you can eat healthy. And I was like transitioning out of one framework and ideology. And I sort of just kind of fit right into a new framework and ideology without ever even stopping to consider my own identity. Or even like how I was experiencing it in my body. I feel like that happens often, people will leave one religion and then they'll move into something else that has a similar construct. Here's what you do to get where we you know, where we want you to go. Yeah, exactly. I think a lot of people and religion as well just have that specific experience of like, disordered eating, being just so disconnected from your body. It's like the foundation is laid? Yeah, I think it depends a lot on because I feel like all religions have a little bit of a different twist on that, where the Christiania like you're saying, at the fundamental base of it is that you're that you know, man is a natural sinner, or natural enemy to God. And so in that sense, we ought we instantly come in thinking, Okay, well, we're sinners. But that body piece I know, in Mormonism, we have what's called the word of wisdom with how we're supposed to follow in order to have the healthiest kind of body thing but it is something that, you know, the religion tells you to follow a certain, a certain piece, that's why Mormons don't have coffee, drink, they don't do certain things like that. But not because it's what feels good to their body, it's because they're being told what they should put in their body. So it's definitely an interesting piece of that disconnection that you're speaking to. Because you're so conditioned to look outside of yourself for answers that we don't know how to look inside. Meanwhile, in most Christianity, you have the Holy Spirit right the teacher that is there that's always been with you that continues to be with you and they religions just labeled as the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit when all reality it's just your inner your inner guide your intuition. Yeah, that never leaves you but it's so conditioned that only through this you know, religion, do you do you get this? Yeah, I love what you're what you're speaking on. So you're doing rich If nutrition and then notice that you're starting to go into kind of another paradigm. Well, it's funny because I didn't notice. Oh, yeah, looking back, I mean, hindsight is 2020. But and at the time, I had no idea that they could be connected, or I mean, I just really wasn't present. I had no tools had no awareness of how to be present. In my body and my experience. Throughout my life, I have this pattern of not being able to name what I'm going through until like, a year later, when I can like, look back and be like, Oh, I was miserable. But at the time, I think, if you had asked me like, Do you have a disordered relationship with food? I'd be like, No, I have the best relationship with food. I do all the right things. I know about all the nutrients, I drink three and a half liters of water per day, which is an extra liter, just in case, I get my five servings of vegetables in and I eat 50 grams of fiber. And so I was not aware. Yeah. So what shifted? I think I first heard the phrase, listen to your body. I can't remember where, in what context, I heard that phrase. It's become more popular. I think over the years, I'm glad it has. But I heard that phrase, listen to your body. And even though I was very much like, in my deconstruction phase, my initial reaction was like, shut down. That's wrong. That can't be right. Your body is like your body's trying to trick you. So I couldn't even ask like, how could you connect to your body listen to your body because I was so shut down at the initial like acceptance of it. I think I can't really pinpoint like certain events or times, but probably over the process of a year, I was maybe re introduced to that topic saw more on social media started to feel more accepting towards it feel a little bit more like open to curiosity about it. I think also when I was in undergrad, the body positivity movement was taking more space on social media. And I'm so I think there was just more of that coming up in my everyday life. Yeah, just being on my phone. And after I love that it really that first thought of listening to your body created that question within you. And I feel like when we have the opportunity to ask or see something that just makes us question like, Wait, is this this feels? Maybe this is true? And then that question gets to unravel. And then oftentimes, it will unravel some deeper pieces within us that we didn't realize started from this, this first tiny little thing. Yeah, I think if the initial shutdown, or the initial reaction is just like, shut down to the question, no, no, Curiosity is allowed. There can't be any other good questions. But once we allow the first answer to be like, maybe, then it's so great, because other questions are allowed to come in? Yeah. How would that happen? Do I care about that happening? Like, what are the steps? You know, what does that feel like? Yeah, I love I love questions that make you think because then it just, it does exactly what you're talking about. It's like, oh, maybe I do like this thing. And maybe I don't. So as you're kind of moving through, you're going and getting your degree. At what point do you decide, hey, I'm just done. Ah, I found out that the anti diet world exists. Health at Every Size, weight inclusivity i. And once I found that I was like, I just felt such a huge sense of relief. It felt like the biggest sigh ever. And I knew that I could never go back to just following the traditional paradigm of like, eat this not that this food was good as soon as bad. It felt like finally, I didn't have to have all the answers. Like maybe there was a way that like I could just exist and other people could just exist, like how we are in our bodies, and not always have to be fighting against our own bodies and our own intuition. And that created that like that connection within within your religion. Could you rephrase the question? Well, you're talking about the nutrition piece and the anti like maybe there isn't a diet for that people should be the anti diet movement and then right recognizing you can ask yourself and create your own paradigms. So I'm so I'm assuming that associated with your religious beliefs too, that you've been asking that question over here about the body associated with religion. And that's kind of what you were like you kind of because I was asking what, what was the piece for you to be like, I'm done. I'm not, I'm no longer part of this religion, I'm out. Was that it? Um, it's it's hard to pinpoint an exact moment event. I think it happened slowly. I was, when I first left the Christian University, I just knew that I needed like, time and space, I still continued to go to church off and on for a while, because I would not go for a while, and then I'd feel guilty. And then I'd go back and still feel like, I just don't know. Like, I just don't know if I feel like I fit in here. If I feel welcomed. And I think the more I explored connection with my own mind and body, the more I was open to exploring that, like, I didn't need to outsource. For fulfilling my needs for connecting to others, or just myself. I was also really lucky that the university I transferred to was really, really big on outdoors. It was in the mountains, it was lovely. I just started spending so much more time outdoors and felt more sanctity, being in nature than I ever had felt in a church. Oh, yeah. I think a lot of us joke around about you know, you'll see pictures. Least I know I do it. I have friends that do it. It's like, oh, here, I'm in my church today. And it's up in the mountains. Because you do you feel so connected to God, or whatever your higher source is, when you're in nature, and sometimes a lot deeper than within the construct of a church building. Yes, it just felt more it felt more natural, more organic for like me to connect to nature is nature's ever present. It's powerful. And it's going to survive much longer than me. And it's been here a lot longer before me. It wasn't someone standing over me telling me these are the things that you need to do. This is okay, this is not okay. It was just me just being and experiencing life and what felt true to you. And I think that's absolutely beautiful. How did your family react when you decided that you were done? How would you love it was not happy. I kind of like trickled that information towards her. At first I was like, I don't know. And then it was I just don't want to talk about it. And finally, our relationship got to such a place that I just felt there was no truth in it. There was no room for me to be authentically who I was if I wasn't fitting like her mold or idea of what I should be. So I just finally had to cut it off. And one thing that was important, I wrote her a letter, one thing that was important to me to include in that letter, I was like, I am not Christian. I don't want to talk about it. That's not my spirituality, like I'm pursuing something else. And like, that helps you feel good to you. You do that, but like, I don't want that to ever be a part of our relationship anymore. Because she would continually like, try to get me to go back to church or like, listen to this song. so inspirational. Luckily, we've been able to reform a healthier relationship with more boundaries, and that boundary is intact. Oh, that's beautiful. That's good. That's awesome that you're able to state the boundary and that she's respecting it. Yeah, I'm sure you have to remind. You probably had to remind you of it a few times. You know, so far I haven't saw that. So good. Yeah, we it took it was almost like two years of separation. And so I think we're both just kind of happy to be back in each other's lives in a more peaceful way. So it hasn't come back up yet. Well, that's beautiful. And unfortunately, I feel like that happens. As we're unwinding and kind of uncoupling out of religion. Oftentimes, it's also uncoupling out of familiar relationships too, that are choosing to stay in because they're so deep into the dogma and to the practice of whatever their beliefs are, that it is part of the salvation of their children, and it's challenging. And so it is it can take a while. Yeah, I understand that. A lot of the ways that I felt pushed by her was it was more out of her feeling like it was her duty or Yeah, her from a place of love. Really? Yeah. I mean, she knows trying to make sure I get to heaven. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe I don't want to go to have that happen. Maybe there is no such thing as heaven or hell, what if what had happened in hell or both is amazing. knows, knows. Yeah, I think I'm actually opening myself up to deconstructing and feeling more connection with my own mind and body. And that coupling that with like, entering the anti diet world, I was a little bit more primed, ready to be able to receive it, because I had already confronted the everything that I was raised with was kind of a lie. And doesn't fit for me. And then confronting eight IDI, it was like, a lot of what traditional nutrition schooling is based on doesn't apply to me. And it's probably not true. So in that way, it was a little bit easier to digest that I was a little bit more open to everything not being what it seems. Right? Everything being what it seems. So question, Is this for me or not? So tell us a little bit more about your passion with nutrition? Because clearly you have a passion with it? Yes. So tell us a little bit more. Yeah. And that connection a little deeper, because I know, when you reached out, we had talked about that a little bit with that connection within religion. And I know you spoke to it. But is there another piece here of why you're so passionate about it? And that connection within within your foundation? And I do love I love that you brought up that actually me asking those questions probably helped me to go into this space in my life. And now you're here, and it's something new. Sounds like you deeply love. Yeah. So there's a lot of beauty in that. I do. I think there's a lot of beauty in questioning everything. Yeah. I think that's just a big value of mine. And something I really bring into my work. A lot of people come to me just like, years upon years of just like I dieted, and then I fell off the diet and then die. And then I had to go back to dieting, and it's like, well, what if like, you've never had the diet in the first place? Like, what if your body is just okay as it is? And that's a really hard question. In this society that we live. Yeah. But yeah, I just child gently challenge and encourage others to invite just like questioning and curiosity to everything about the relationship with food and body. The way that our society is set up towards them doesn't allow for much questioning because someone else is making money off of you buying into all the diets, right? All of the uni, this superfood, and you need both at the latest and greatest thing. Well, and it's really fascinating. When you look back at our history, you know, we went from being farmers and eating off the earth to then going into like, more of that in the 50s. Right? 50s 60s When did TV dinners start coming out and all like the processed foods, and then it went into the fad diets of, you know, Slim Fast and that day, and a lot more. So it's like, we went for more whole foods and like nutrition that came from the earth to process process, process process, diet, diet, diet diet, because your body's reacting to this crap you're putting in and not really liking it. And then you know, I find myself often getting sometimes, you know, you get into the oh, I want to, I'm feeling like crap. So I want to do something and it's like, oh, what what things should I tap into now? Because there's so many different fads out there. There's the Keto. And then there's the plant based diets and then there's, you know, the i There's so many different pieces. So I love that you're speaking to the what if there wasn't a diet? You know, so, let's say that I'm coming to you as a client. How would what would How does that work? Like, hey, I'm really kind of feeling my body just feels shitty. But I don't really want to do a diet but I know I need to eat cleaner. I'd like to lose some weight because it feels heavy. feels heavier right now. Well, what would that how would that what would that look like? I I would first ask you what your values are. My love that, and how that can be integral to your relationship with food and body. And then I would ask you, why do you need to lose weight? And just that usually takes a while to explore. Yeah? And what if you didn't? And what if you just allow your body to be the way it is? And if your body changes in response to nourishment, does that mean that needed to change to be happy and function? Well? I love those questions. And in question like, What Does eating clean mean? What does? What does keto mean data, there's so much noise, there's so much information, quote, unquote, information out there so much. But no information will ever be as important as what is coming from within you what your body is telling you. If you're hungry, if you're full, if you're seeking a sweet snack, if you're seeking like a nutrient dense food, like your body is trying its best to take care of you. And if you could be its teammate, it will give you all the information that you need, you don't necessarily need to outsource all of your needs to someone else. Because someone else is probably just trying to sell you unfortunately, that's usually the case. And again, you know, it's similar to anybody on this planet that is creating a livelihood off of what we're doing. It does come from a place even within religion, even with your mom, right? It comes from this place of, of desire to want to better the world desire to want to create something that would benefit people. And you know, it does come from that place. And so I, I, I firmly believe I mean, the thing that you do in your life as far as your career, what I do, like we all have our motivations as far as what we do feel like we bring to the world. And in that it's beautiful. And then I love that you're bringing in that you know, but there is a lot of noise. So how can you get quiet enough to go you know what, this is an alignment for me. And that's where I want to go? That feels really good in my body, my mind my spirit to go that to go that path? Yeah, yeah, that isn't that lot of noise. Yeah, that's really the majority of work with clients is like turning down a noise on diet, culture and everything out there. And reconnecting to your body's inherent wisdom. We're all born as babies with the ability to regulate and interpret hunger, fullness, everything, and we need to reclaim and rebuild a trusting relationship with our body. And it will provide you with that wisdom that already has it within within you. I mean, it's been formed over 1000s of years through ancestors and your body has a lot. Yeah, a lot of wisdom. Yeah, it really does. Well, and we unfortunately we do live in a society to for whatever reason, whatever the motivations, are, we when we're born, like you said, we do have all this innateness with knowing what our physical body needs, but even with our connection to spirit source, or our abilities to see and hear. I mean, you'll often have babies and kids that can see spirits and can see different themes. But then there's the conditioning that starts happening with the familiar system of the family, with the tribal system of the culture and the environment. And then the world stage as far as what we're all choosing into that does start to increase the noise of this is what I'm supposed to do that's outside of me versus what do I feel so I yeah, getting back to those basics is is is is essential. And I think it's really beautiful that you're connecting those dots with religion and with Christianity in in your, you know, your upbringing of seeing how disassociated you were, that led you to then asking these questions and then finding this really beautiful Avenue within within nutrition. And for you when you were leaving, and let's What was the thing that you felt like was the most beneficial for you at the time what was really helpful for you as you were stepping out as you were leaving as you were starting to deprogram Hmm, what was the most important or helpful? Yeah, what was? Yeah, what was helpful at the time? Therapy? Yeah, why didn't we really do it's pretty integral to being able to feel safe in my body? Yeah. That was that was another big piece of it is that I'd experienced a lot of direct harm to my body from my religious peers, it didn't feel safe to be in my body. Being able to reconnect to safety, here in my physical home, was the first step. Therapy, a lot of just like, intentional, like mindfulness stillness in my life. I think one of the benefits that religion gave me was kind of like an emotional catharsis and redefining what that would look like in my life. So I was able to create more like, intentional genuine relationships with people by having like, genuine emotional conversations. That was a form of emotional processing and catharsis for me. And then being out in nature, was another form of emotional processing therapy. Finding ways to access my emotions, in my thoughts in my own body. Outside of church, yeah, all of those we think are beautiful. What would be something that for those that are listening, that are struggling, that are moving out of religion, but they have a lot of fear they have, they're just, they're just feeling really alone? What is something that you you would love to offer as advice of just a thought? It's scary to open yourself up to questioning that everything is not as it seems. And that can be confusing in and of itself. discovering what else is out there. Yeah. I think what I can offer is empathy. It is scary, to question everything. But in the process of questioning everything around you, the systems that we live in, it's really just leading you back home to questioning like, who am I? What are my values? What what do I really care about? What makes me enjoy my experience in life and be able to do that? Questioning is, it's hard at first, and then as you're able to bring it back around to coming home to yourself, it starts to feel more comfortable. Anything? Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, that's beautiful. So you have your degree in nutrition? Is that correct? Yeah, I have undergrad and master's degree. Yeah. Good for you. So what what do you what do you do with your degree, I assume that's what you do for a living? Yeah. One on one, nutrition counseling, kind of like this via zoom. And I help people break out of diet culture, connect to intuitive eating, which is really to say connect to yourself, and your own body's cues, and what feels good in your body. And really, what I tell my clients is, I believe that you already have the answers and solutions within you and I'm, I'm a reflection tool for you. So I might ask some helpful questions. But really, it's more of like, what questions do you have? Oh, that's awesome. Tell us a little bit about some successes that you've had when you work with clients. What do you find seems to be the thing that like, you know, you've gotten to that place with them when what happens? I think when they're able to completely redefine what health means to them. I connect values to On several dimensions of health outside of just physical health, spiritual, emotional mental community, how do your values line up with that? And what does that look like to practice all those dimensions of health on a daily basis? And of course, maybe starting with all of those at once. It's overwhelming. What's it look like to practice like one dimension of health and your life each day? It's completely based on you, your values, what feels good to you, and not any of the outside noise? I love that. That's beautiful. So if someone wanted to get in touch with you, how would they do that? You can find me on the website at wise heart nutrition. wise, wise heart. Yes. For face heart nutrition. I'll make sure and put that in the show notes. We have an Instagram also why start nutrition? Awesome. And a Facebook? Cool, all the same thing? So do you worry is that your company you work with another company? Why start nutrition is a private practice group of three dieticians it's me and two other practitioners. So make sure then that the requests work with Rebecca. Yeah, especially if you're have experienced deconstructing religion, and how that has forced you to be disconnected from your body. Yeah, I love that. That's beautiful. Is there anything else you'd like to share before we wrap up? Let's see. I don't think so. I've I've really enjoyed this just being able to have like genuine conversations with people with similar experiences. It's nice. Yeah, I know. It is nice. It's nice to know that there's a growing population of us. Yeah, they're all deconstructing and sipping out. Yeah, I think it's beautiful that you found this, this connection with your body that you didn't have before. And I think that's quite quite profound. So thank you for sharing that with us and, and sharing some time with us today and, and sharing some of your story. It's beautiful. Thank you. Appreciate that. Wasn't that a beautiful interview. And it's really interesting just to listen to other people's stories and other people's stories with different religions, and how she's navigated this space within her and now created that to be able to have empathy and create a space for other people to step into, especially with that nutrition piece, which is huge. So head over to her website, I'll put it down below in the show notes, if you're interested in working with Rebecca. And again, go secure your spot today, Amanda loveland.com, Ford slash activation, the pricing will be going up here soon. So you'll want to secure it now. And again, we'll be activating that inner guru, we'll be walking through how to unwind pieces that may be preventing you from stepping more into your gifts and your knowing, and it's going to be a powerful call. So I'm excited to step in the space for those that fill, fill the call and are ready to uplevel. Sunday, October 30 at 10am Mountain Standard Time, Amanda joy loveland.com forward slash activation. And again, I say this every time because I think that's one of the messages that is just always so profound to me that while we feel that we are alone, and there's truth in that, because only you know what your experience is that you're going through. There is a lot of people that can understand and have empathy because we're going through similar places, similar things that was unwinding and deconstructing out of religion. So please know that you're not alone. If you're in a place in your life, that you're really struggling. Please reach out to someone reach out and just talk nine times out of 10 just speaking and talking and Rebecca touched on that that therapy was really helpful for so if you're feeling like you need something, maybe it's just a friend to talk to a therapist. Go up in the mountains, have a conversation with God in the mountains and know that you're not alone. With that sending you so much love. Have a beautiful day.