#021: A deep discussion about farming, science, sustainability, and where knowledge comes from with the always-fascinating Stuart Hill, author and former chair of Social Ecology at the University of Western Sydney, Australia.
Stuart Hill is a prolific author, publishing over 350 papers and many books on agriculture and social ecology. He is the former chair of Social Ecology at the University of Western Sydney, Australia and is currently Professor Emeritus in their School of Education. Stuart serves on the Real Organic Project Advisory Board.
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