#024: Bill McKibben offers his thoughts on how a big movement can succeed in fighting big power. Beyond the importance of pairing global policy with local, grassroots action, he also speaks to the role of industrial agriculture and the dismantling of the organic brand in the coming climate blows we all face.
Bill McKibben is an environmentalist, journalist, author, and the co-founder and leader of the climate action group 350.org. He is the Schumann Distinguished Scholar at Middlebury College. In addition to writing for the New York Times, The Atlantic, Mother Jones, Harper's, National Geographic and more, he is known for his books about Climate Change, including The End of Nature, Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet, and Falter: Has the Human Game Begun to Play Itself Out?
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