The How to ABA Podcast

Creating Programs to Foster Independence with Dr. Peter Gerhardt and Dr. Shanna Bahry

Shira Karpel & Shayna Gaunt Episode 176

Dr. Peter Gerhardt is the Executive Director of Epic Programs in New Jersey. Dr. Shanna Bahry is the founder and executive director of Meaningful Hope. Dr. Gerhardt and Dr. Bahry us to discuss their experiences in the field and the gaps they see when it comes to setting up our learners for a successful, independent life. Together, they created a blueprint of how ABA practitioners can help the people they support make lasting, effective changes.

Here, Peter and Shanna share their background and what ultimately led to their work to change how we cultivate independence in our learners. We discuss their book, Make It Meaningful and some of the key takeaways. We also discuss tips for talking to parents, the top three independence skills to teach, and creative workarounds to help learners master skills. 

What’s Inside:

  • How Dr. Gerhardt and Dr. Bahry are working to change how we help our learners achieve independence
  • All about Dr. Gerhardt and Dr. Bahry’s book, Make It Meaningful
  • Creative workarounds to help our learners master independence skills


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