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The How to ABA Podcast
We are Shira and Shayna and we are so excited to bring you our first podcast episode of How to ABA! We are both BCBAs with over twenty years of experience, and as you can imagine, we have created and gathered so many resources in that time. We want to share them with you! That’s why we are here, and that’s why we created this podcast. If you are new to the world of ABA, are looking for new resources, or just looking for a fresh perspective, you’re in the right place!
The How to ABA Podcast
Becoming the Reinforcer: The Power of Relationship-Based Motivation
In this episode, we’re diving into one of our favorite and most meaningful topics in ABA: relationship-based motivation. We talk about why reinforcement doesn’t have to look like tokens, toys, or snacks and how you can become the most powerful reinforcer in the room. When learners enjoy being with us, motivation shifts from doing work for rewards to genuinely wanting to engage, connect, and participate.
We share real-life examples from our own clinical experiences, including moments when we realized we weren’t yet reinforcing enough and what changed when we leaned into play, connection, and authenticity. We also unpack common misconceptions around work versus play, breaks, and pairing, and explain why separating social interaction from reinforcement can unintentionally send the wrong message.
This conversation applies not only to young learners but also to older students, parents, teachers, supervisees, and even supervisors. Strong relationships increase the value of everything else we do in ABA. When connection comes first, behavior change is more sustainable, more meaningful, and honestly, more enjoyable for everyone involved.
What’s Inside:
- Why relationship-based reinforcement is more powerful than external rewards
- How to become a preferred person, not just the person delivering demands
- Rethinking breaks, play, and motivation in everyday sessions
- Why authentic connection matters across learners, families, and supervisees
Mentioned in This Episode:
Episode 221: ESDM in Action: Embedding Goals in Daily Routines and Play
The Science Behind ESDM: Why Relationship Matters as Much as Reinforcement
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