DeltaSauce - Artist

Ever wondered how an artist fuses the old-world charm of oil paintings with the futuristic precision of robotics? This week's conversation with digital virtuoso Delta Sauce is an expedition through the landscape of innovation, as we unravel the threads of his artistic evolution. From the tactile world of woodworking and sculpting to the digital frontier, Delta Sauce shares his intimate history and the life-shaping experiences that led him to bridge the gap between AI and traditional artistry, inspired by the serene vistas of Iceland and New Zealand.

Is comfort food the key to the soul? As Delta Sauce and I swap tales of culinary delights - think melty grilled cheese paired with hearty tomato soup - we also serve up some nourishing advice for those chasing their passions. Learn why dedication to your craft, even in the face of financial uncertainty, can be the ultimate recipe for success. Meanwhile, we stir the pot on the crypto art scene, offering emerging artists a spoonful of insights on navigating the unpredictable market with patience and self-belief.

We close the canvas on a poignant note, emphasizing the significance of preserving the narratives of digital creators in the ever-evolving Web3 world. Our discussion spotlights the importance of artists sharing their stories, cementing legacies in a realm where history can vanish with the click of a button. As Delta Sauce prepares for his groundbreaking exhibit, where oil and AI converge, we get a sneak peek into his collaborative efforts and the emotional resonance of bringing physical artworks to life. So, recline and let the NorCal and Shill Podcast take you on an inspiring journey through the confluence of art, technology, and human passion.

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Transcript

NorCal Guy: 0:01

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NorCal Guy: 0:25

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NorCal Guy: 0:31

Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of NorCal and Shill, where we deep dive into the world of digital art, AI and personal passions. Today we have delta sauce, a vibrant artist who's as seasoned in web 3 as he is passionate about pushing the boundaries of traditional and ai art form. A vibrant artist who's as seasoned in web 3 as he is passionate about pushing the boundaries of traditional and AI-generated art. From his early days, enduring grueling hours at a grocery store, to embracing the unpredictable yet fulfilling path of an artist, DeltaSauce shares his journey of sacrifices, achievements and the relentless pursuit of his passion. In today's chat, we'll explore Delta Sauce's transition from woodworking and sculpting to producing stunning digital pieces with AI.

NorCal Guy: 1:30

We'll explore Delta Sauce's transition from woodworking and sculpting to producing stunning digital pieces with AI, discuss his love for the serene lifestyles of Iceland, New Zealand and the Isle of man, and dig into his latest project, which marries the tactile beauty of oil painting with cutting-edge robotics. Hold on to your seats as we also tackle the tangy flavors of his culinary favorites and the spicy world of crypto art security. All this and more. World of crypto art security. All this and more, peppered with insights on animal intelligences and valuable advice for emerging artists in the crypto space. So plug in, get cozy and let's get the conversation started with the intriguing world of Delta Sauce on this episode of NorCal and Chill. Hey, Delta, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

DeltaSauce: 2:29

I'm doing pretty well, doing pretty well. How are you doing today?

NorCal Guy: 2:32

I am well doing well Busy morning, but here and getting ready to chat with you, which I am looking forward to, but it's a nice day out. We had a stormy weekend here where I live, um, but now it's nice and sunny and just want to be outside.

DeltaSauce: 2:51

No, I feel you. The weather's been horrible here in Texas, like we've had massive thunderstorms, tornado warnings. It's just been really hectic. Like every weekend it's been raining just constantly and it's just like I can't take my dogs out and they're always whining, and well, because they want to go out, like, and it's just like my chihuahua doesn't like the rain, but my big, you know, golden golden retriever loves it and he'll just go out there and roll in the mud and it's just like right they get that cabin fever man no, definitely so do you use a hardware wallet?

DeltaSauce: 3:25

Do you have one? Yes, I do. As soon as I got to a point in my Web3 career, I decided to do it because I wanted that safety net, I wanted that security because I've heard so much People lose money to get their wallet. They get everything drained and it's just like. I want to avoid that at all costs because, like it's my, it's my livelihood, you know like and for sure, if I lose everything it's on me, it's not on anyone else. So, like that hardware, that hardware wallet's like on me as a you know person in the space, and I I'm glad I have one. I'm thinking about getting multiples too, just to divvy up stuff right.

NorCal Guy: 4:02

Yeah, it's kind of nice. Um well, I mean, that's the hard part about this space is like you are the security for your bank account, basically. So, yeah, take it seriously no, 100, yeah, 100.

DeltaSauce: 4:16

And it's just like I've seen a lot of good people lose all of their money that they've worked so hard for and yeah, I don't like seeing that and it's just like I feel like security and stuff like that needs to be more you know, explained and more like you know put out there and you know help people, guide people into getting into that kind of thing because, like, at the end of the day, you're in charge of your own money. Like it's not like you go to a bank and like they lose the money and it's on them. It's. If you lose the money, it's on you, right?

NorCal Guy: 4:45

Yes, it's a serious stuff. Um yeah, and I always like having an extra wallet, always have an extra wallet for me, cause I've had a wallet fail and then you're like Frank, now I got to get a new wallet and I got to reload the keys and make sure I, you know well, get a new wallet, I gotta reload the keys and make sure I, you know well. That's one thing I always do. When I set up a new wallet, I always reload it with the same keys to make sure that it worked yeah, no, definitely, and like that's, my biggest nightmare is just the hardware failing, like you know, like that.

DeltaSauce: 5:16

That's just like. That's why I want multiples. It's just like, just in case you know. Backups it's nice to have right right.

NorCal Guy: 5:23

So what were your first thoughts when you heard about this crypto art space?

DeltaSauce: 5:29

honestly, like, for me it was all about the community because, like, I wanted that art based community because, like, when it comes to digital art, it's hard to, like you know, curate your own community like by yourself.

DeltaSauce: 5:39

But, like here, it was really focused on like, getting together all with all these other artists and, like building out this community, and it was just like everyone was so friendly, everyone was so inviting. They're like hey, we'll show you how to do stuff, we'll, we'll show you how to mint. Like I didn't know. It took me two months to figure out how to bridge and the only way I figured it out was like I finally, you know, went out there and asked someone because, like, I didn't want to ask anyone, because I don't like asking people for help, but I couldn't figure it out for the life of me. So I'm just like, how do you bridge something? Like, how do you do this? And like, when you start asking questions, people answered and, you know, responded and like were very helpful. And that's really what made me fall in love with the space is just how open and inviting everyone was in the very beginning, like back in 2021.

NorCal Guy: 6:20

Oh, yeah, yeah.

DeltaSauce: 6:27

So you've been here since 2021. That's awesome.

NorCal Guy: 6:29

Yeah, september I joined in september of 2021, towards the end. Uh, got it, got it, got it nice. So what brought you to art? Why did you choose art?

DeltaSauce: 6:37

for for me it was just about like expressing myself and, like you know, presenting myself in a way that, like I'm very it's very hard for me to verbalize how I feel, but with art I can just make something and it's how I feel inside and I can present that and share that with people. And my dad is a carpenter. He's really good. He was a woodworker, like he did a lot of woodworking on the side as well, and he did a lot of like installation on carpets and whatnot, and for me it's just like, well, and he did a lot of like installation on carpets and whatnot, and for me it's just like he got me into like working with my hands, working with wood and whatnot, and like giving me this material to work with that he had left over.

DeltaSauce: 7:12

And I fell in love with art there because it's just like it's this transformative power.

DeltaSauce: 7:16

You're given this energy to be able to create whatever you want, and it's just for me that's very powerful in a way like in this sense, it's just like you're given the option to just make something out of nothing, and I love that. It's very freeing and it's very like emotional, and for me, that's really where I got into art and then I started deviating into more digital art as I moved away from like living in this trailer with this workshop in the backyard. I ended up moving to texas with my mom and we ended up moving into an apartment and I don't have room for all this stuff like the woodworking stuff, the sculpting stuff, the kiln and whatnot. So I ended up getting into photography, which then ended up deviating into more of digital collaging and working with Krita before I got into Photoshop and just learning the ropes there, and then I fell in love with ai ever since and it's just been down that rabbit hole okay, nice, yeah, and then you like gone deep into it it's.

DeltaSauce: 8:17

For me, it's the closest thing to to working with my hands into woodworking, into sculpting as possible when it comes to like just going in there and just being given this thing that the AI creates as output that's imperfect, and then trying to go in and polish it down to this image that I want to produce, that I want to convey. It's about this transformative property of working with this material and then just carving it down into the thing that I want most.

NorCal Guy: 8:46

Right, right, okay. So I'm curious because I mean, it sounds like you've had a variety of opportunities and different things growing up. What jobs have you done like in high school pre what you're doing right now?

DeltaSauce: 9:03

I've had one job in my whole life, and that was working at a grocery store.

DeltaSauce: 9:07

And I did that I did that for five years and I hated it. I hated every day of it. Like no, I absolutely hated it. Like it's just like I was paid so little and you know, I gave them 110% every day and it's just like. That's why I ended up quitting. I ended up quitting, I quit cold Turkey and just jumped into web three and being an artist full time. Because, like, for me, it was just like do I want to look back 60 years on my life with regret and hating myself, or do I want to look back and be like? I did what I loved. I did it to the best of my ability. I was successful, and you know, that's I. I'd rather be. I'd rather be poor and do what I love than you know go to work every day and hate it.

NorCal Guy: 9:48

Ah, yeah, yeah, I that's. That's interesting. Like I, I worked at a grocery store for like four months and yeah, it was not my favorite thing.

DeltaSauce: 10:01

And I and I worked during COVID like I worked, you know, like I was working like a hundred hours a week during COVID. Like I worked, you know, like I was working like a hundred hours a week during COVID because, like no one, like it was bad and no one wanted to work, and like people that were on unemployment were pulling in $600 a week and I was not even getting anywhere close, even with all the overtime. Like it was just ridiculous because I was making. Minimum wage here in Texas is $7.25 an hour. That's what I was making during COVID, wow.

NorCal Guy: 10:28

Wow, dude. Yeah, I can see why and yeah, it's frustrating that it would be very frustrating.

DeltaSauce: 10:35

So it's just like that's why I ended up quitting. It's just because, like I got, like I got frustrated after COVID and it was just like I don't want to look back and be like I did nothing with my life, I didn't do anything productive, I wasn't happy, you know, like I didn't push myself hard enough and like web three was that opportunity. It allowed me to, like you know, quit my job and do this full time. And I'll be honest, it was a struggle in the beginning. It was difficult, like the first eight months of like not knowing where your income was coming from, like if you were going to make it. Like there were days where I was eating one meal a day, there was days where I was skipping meals because, like I would rather pay my you know internet bill or electric bill and just keep going that way.

NorCal Guy: 11:17

You were talking about. You know, going full time Web3, you know, trying to figure out where you know that income is going to be coming from. Well, obviously going to be from web three, but you are, uh, doing what you can to make that work.

DeltaSauce: 11:33

Oh, definitely Like, and like I was saying earlier, it was just like there were some days where I would just skip meals, like I wouldn't eat the whole day because I'd rather my internet and my cake, like my everything that I need to work as an artist be on and that paid over me eating. I would be fine. Like I'd go days without food, like it's, it's whatever, but that's the thing, though. I wanted to make it work, no matter the cost. Like if I have to like go through the ditches, if I have to like climb a mountain, I will do that.

NorCal Guy: 11:57

Just to do this full time, wow that's amazing, so changing gears a little bit. If you were an animal, what would you be and why?

DeltaSauce: 12:11

damn, this is a hard question, because there's so many cool, there's so many cool animals out there, like true true I've always loved foxes, like I just love, like yeah, they're playful behavior, like you know, and just like I don't know, there's something about them. Like you know, there's that whole connotation of being like sly as a fox, you know. Like that, that interests me too and it's like I don't know. They're just cool, adorable little animals like what about you? I'm curious, what about you?

NorCal Guy: 12:39

I'm curious about you now oh well, my go-to is the octopus on that one why is that like?

DeltaSauce: 12:46

what's the reasoning behind that you?

NorCal Guy: 12:47

know, I guess, like because they can like hide in the shadows, they can, or they don't even necessarily have to hide in the shadows, but they can like blend in the shadows. Or they don't even necessarily have to hide in the shadows, but they can like blend in with their environment and just be there observing and then they can come out and pop out and say what's up there's, you know, semi friendly with uh, divers, it seems, and if you have them as a pet, they're like super friendly and like this little, awesome little creature, um, and they're smart, yeah they're pretty intelligent as well.

DeltaSauce: 13:17

I mean, we we've seen them like predict, like sports games and whatnot, and, like you know, solve puzzles and right.

NorCal Guy: 13:24

Yeah, the puzzle solving is impressive, like what they can do and and just what they can squeeze through and manipulate and figure out, and it's crazy yeah it's a good choice.

NorCal Guy: 13:38

It's probably a lot better than a fox, to be honest do you have watched some fox videos where, like they're like have like I don't know if they're like they have like this funny little laugh sounding kind of kitty sounding thing, like their sound, um, like I've watched some videos of like people that have like I don't know if they were rescue foxes or pets, but they're like petting the foxes and they sound like this cute little animal and they're like super soft and seem like friendly yeah, there's a animal, uh shelter thing that I watch on twitch sometimes and they have like live footage of their foxes that they they rescued and I I enjoy them.

DeltaSauce: 14:18

I enjoy those, like having those on the side and while I'm working on artwork and you know, just peeking over and seeing what's going on.

NorCal Guy: 14:25

All right, what's your go-to?

DeltaSauce: 14:26

meal. No for me, like I'm torn, because growing up I had this love of grilled cheese and tomato soup. I absolutely love a good grilled cheese and dipping it in tomato soup, but lately I've really loved shepherd's pie.

NorCal Guy: 14:42

It's a classic for me.

DeltaSauce: 14:44

I made it last night and I ended up adding garlic powder and onion salt and whatnot and all this other stuff that I typically don't add, but it ended up making the meat so much more delicious. I ended up making a bowl today, you know, for lunch, right, nice?

NorCal Guy: 15:01

So shepherd's pie, all right, all right, that one's a good one.

DeltaSauce: 15:05

It's, it's, man. It was delicious last night and I have left. Well, I make a lot. Like I ended up making like a large, you know bowl of it and like I ended up having a slice last night and then I had a slice for lunch and I might have a slice for dinner. Like I don't know if that's too much shepherd's pie, but, man, it was good.

NorCal Guy: 15:22

They had nothing wrong with that. I mean, you know, we, we make our full food usually in the in bulk quantities, so we don't have to make meals every night for the family. So we make. You know a couple of things, and then like alternate it throughout the week.

DeltaSauce: 15:37

What about you? What's your favorite food? I'm kind of curious now.

NorCal Guy: 15:40

Dude, my favorite food. I love Mexican food so much I I can eat rice and beans. I can eat carne asada, or you know, just rice and beans and cheese. Like I am, I can keep it simple and just be delicious with, or, you know, if you like, throw some onions and cilantro on that, or just a burrito, but my favorite meat is carne asada.

DeltaSauce: 16:03

My issue with like I'm not from Texas, I'm from Florida originally and there's a lot of tech. You know, in Texas there's a lot of Mexican food. So yeah for me, it's just like I can never get into like you know Hispanic food at all. Because it's just like I can never get into Hispanic food at all, because it's just like too spicy man. Oh, okay, it's the spice that like it's just overwhelming sometimes. Yeah, that's fair.

DeltaSauce: 16:25

Like I'll have Wingstop. I know Wingstop is not Hispanic food, but like even the Wingstop is too much Like spicy wings are just too much. That's how weak my you know my hand, that's how weak I am when I come to handling spiciness.

NorCal Guy: 16:39

So that's fair. That's fair, um, all right. So what's the best piece of advice you have been given? Or do you have like a mantra that you live by, like something that you keep on repeating in your head, like this is what I'm doing or this is how I live by?

DeltaSauce: 17:00

For me. My dad gave me this. You know this, this solid piece of advice that I still take to this day. And it's just like follow your passion 100%. Like put a hundred percent into your passion. Don't worry about the money the money will come eventually. Like just and don't worry about the money, the money will come eventually. Like just show people that you love what you do and that you wholeheartedly believe in what you do and you stand behind what you do and don't worry about any of the like the. Don't worry about any of the financial stuff. Like that'll sort it out with time. But like once you show people that you're passionate and you're you're 100 percent involved in your craft, people respect that.

NorCal Guy: 17:33

Yeah, true. Do you have advice for artists joining this crypto art space?

DeltaSauce: 17:46

I would say this is something that I grew into and I learned from my experiences. Like, don't set the bar too high. We all, you know, every time we do something, we all keep wanting to set the bar higher and higher. We all, you know, every time we do something, we all keep wanting to set the bar higher and higher. But for me it's just like set the bar at a place that I know that I could break past every time, like I'm not going to keep setting the bar higher and higher because you end up, you know, falling into that pit hole of like if you can't succeed, you can't succeed where that bar is you end up getting down on yourself, you end up punishing yourself for it. You can, you know, know, and I don't want to be in that depressive state. So I set the bar at a level I can achieve and I just run past it. Like you know that it's. It's setting the goals at, like, a manageable level and not exceeding expectations.

DeltaSauce: 18:27

Because, like with the whole way the market works, it's like you don't know if it's the artwork's not good enough or the market's in a rough spot. Like you, you're always questioning why something isn't doing something or why your art isn't selling and whatnot, and it's just like, at the end of the day, those are questions like that are nearly impossible to answer. You never know what factors are really affecting what's going on in the market or your artwork. And it's just like. For me it's just like if my artwork doesn't sell, maybe it's just not finding the right people. Someone in the world is going to like this artwork. It's going to sell eventually. Someone's going to eventually fall in love with this artwork and want to buy it. It's just about waiting on that and not experiencing that just because you don't sell out in five seconds doesn't mean you're a failure.

DeltaSauce: 19:12

Sometimes art takes a while to sell and just because it takes a while to sell doesn't mean you're a failure. Like sometimes art takes a while to sell. And like just because it takes a while to sell doesn't mean you're a failure. Like it's like this in the traditional art market You're not going to sell out right away. You're not going to like people aren't going to come in and just buy out the whole collection. Like that's a rarity here. It's just like we see people sell out in five seconds. Why not us like? Why? Why isn't it me like? But there's so many factors involved, like there's so many behind the scenes stuff involved, and that's really the the thing that I want new artists to take into consideration when they join the space. Like not everything's going to work out the way that you see others work out right for sure.

NorCal Guy: 19:51

So if you could live or move anywhere, where would you live and why?

DeltaSauce: 19:58

I have three options, I have three choices, and they all have some similarities, except for one. Well, they all have similarities in general, either Iceland, new Zealand or the Isle of man. Oh, okay.

DeltaSauce: 20:11

I want that island life. I want that intimacy of going to the local store or going to a local city and just knowing everyone. I love that island life. I want that intimacy of like going to the local store and just, or going to like a local city and just knowing everyone. You know, like I love that. I love that small town living. You really don't get that in America that often, unless you like live like in a rural area, like in a small town, yeah, and for me it's just like everywhere in Iceland's close by, everywhere in New Zealand is close by, there's a little traveling, but like when you come to Texas, like you travel like 12, 15 hours and then you enter the new state, you're still, you know, you travel 15 hours, you're still in Texas basically. But like I love that, like you know, kind of island living, kind of vibe and like I'm curious and also when it comes to like New Zealand and especially Iceland.

DeltaSauce: 20:54

I wanted to actually be a volcanologist when I was growing up as a kid I wanted to study volcanoes and experience them and go see them. I love that. I love geology. Geology is fascinating to me, just the study of earth and rocks. I actually my science teacher when I graduated from high school. She ended up getting me a volcanology book and she ended up signing it and you know she said good luck on your journey. You know, and I'm kind of upset, I didn't pursue that, but I'm also. I love doing art, I love this, I love this. You know art's my passion as well and maybe that wasn't, you know, in the books for me you know, following that path, yeah, maybe always a hobby, though Could always be a hobby in the future, definitely, definitely, do Like, if I that's my big debate I've never left the United States before and I'm like, where do I go?

DeltaSauce: 21:51

You know like, do I, do I go to Iceland? Do I go to iceland? Do I go to new zealand? Like because I want to go experience nature and go on those long hikes because and and go see stuff up and you know, in person, you know, be there, experience it like without being online.

DeltaSauce: 22:05

You know like I I want to go out there and explore the world and like it's where do you go first? Like what, what's, what's your first step in like leaving the country, like where, like where do you want to like make that first memory at?

NorCal Guy: 22:17

That's a tough choice, man. I mean I don't think you're going to go wrong, though.

DeltaSauce: 22:22

No, definitely, like I'm debating New Zealand because, like I love Lord of the Rings as well, man, like, just you know going to see where those actual, you know scenes were filmed would be a joy of mine.

NorCal Guy: 22:33

Right, that's true.

DeltaSauce: 22:39

So do you have any questions for me? I actually have a few, actually, like when it comes to this space. Like what got you here? What, what got you interested in like the whole digital art web? Three Like why why are you here? Like what do you think your purpose is?

NorCal Guy: 22:53

Oh man, why, wow I? What do you think your purpose is? Oh man, wow. I don't know why I was here. I don't know a specific purpose, but I mean, initially I got here because NBA Top Shots was what I first got into. And then I started flipping art blocks because it was easy money. And then, as I sat there thinking about all of it, I was just like, um, this all feels pretty historic, I should probably stop flipping stuff. And then I stopped flipping things and then just started getting into one of one artwork, mainly because of being able to talk with artists, or because gender of art. You don't really get to talk with the artists very much, at least, you know, in that 2021 year, and but you could talk with the one ofon-one artists and have conversations with them and I really enjoyed that a lot.

DeltaSauce: 24:01

So so on. On that topic, do you feel like you know that narrative, like getting to talk to the one-on-one artist like one-on-one do you think that adds to the narrative and to the artwork as a whole?

NorCal Guy: 24:12

Yeah, it's definitely. You know, it's something unique in this space because in the, if you go to any gallery, you're not going to be able to talk to the artist and if they happen to be there, if they have a day planned where they're going to be there, it's not going to be more than five minutes in a picture, maybe type thing, or they can sign something for you, but it's not going to be more than like five minutes in a picture, maybe type thing, or they can sign something for you, but it's nothing like, nothing like this space where you can actually like, develop friendships.

DeltaSauce: 24:49

I 100% agree and that's something I've been advocating for. It's just like I can like it amazes me that I can even have a conversation with ACK or Grant you know, grant, yoon and just like hold these conversations with them because, like I look up to them, like they've proven that you can be successful as an artist. You know, and they paved the way and like showed me that it was possible. And like, when I see their success, I'm like, okay, I just got to go harder. You know, I just got to. You know put myself out there more, because if they can do it, then anyone can do it. Like that's what, when I see someone else succeed, it just proves that it's possible. Yeah, like there's no barriers, there's no blaming other people, you just got to go harder and work harder. And like that's what I love about this space. You know, like I look up to so many amazing artists in this space and like I I know the struggle because, like I started it, we all started at that low level. You know, like we all started, like we all had a starting point. You know we weren't all successful when we entered the space and it's just like it's nice to see people are like paving the way and showing that it's possible, and like you can actually talk to these people.

DeltaSauce: 25:50

And another thing thing that kind of worries me is like I feel like I really hope that this whole you know, historical moment for Web3 and like digital art as a whole is being recorded, like you know, like in some form or some, like people are taking notes, people are writing about it, people are like taking it seriously, because I brought this up to a gallerist that was, you know, in the traditional art world. I brought this up to a gallerist that was, you know, in the traditional art world and the thing that we talked about was like how you know the works of, like I'm trying to think of an artist off the top of my head. You know, andy Warhol is well recorded, well versed, like there's a lot of like you know text about him. There's a lot of information about him, but there's a lot of artists in the space that don't have that. They don't have text written about them, they don't have that you know, like people recording their journey or whatnot.

DeltaSauce: 26:35

And that worries me because for me that's lost history. You know, like if the artist like, let's say, an artist you know gained success and they ended up leaving the space and they only gained success after they left the space. No one knows anything about that artist anymore, because we're in such an anonymous environment and that artist ends up blowing up and there's no context behind his work or her work. That really kind of scares me, because you can see an artist blow up after they've left the space and there is no context behind any of their work, there's no narrative that they have to say about it.

NorCal Guy: 27:20

It's all based on what the, the collectors, or like people like perceive their artwork as right. Yeah, um no, it's very true.

DeltaSauce: 27:24

I mean, besides potential interviews and whatnot, um, you know, yeah, yeah, but the issue with interviews is just like how do you find that person after they've blown up, like, like if they don't know, like they're not in the space anymore, like and they didn't you know, you, no one knew their real name, they they're all anonymous in web3, like you can't really get in touch with that person unless, like it's brought to their attention irl, like someone says, hey, your artwork's blowing up Like right, right.

NorCal Guy: 27:51

Yeah, I don't know, I don't have a good. Uh, I don't know, I don't have a good thought or a solution or answer for that.

DeltaSauce: 27:59

My hope is, like I really hope that there's people out there that are actually like archiving this stuff and like you know, like you're doing it right now with interviewing me, like you're doing it like by having all these other interviews as well, and like I find that very you know, important. This is a very important moment to you know, be talking to artists and recording what they have to say and, you know, asking them questions.

NorCal Guy: 28:21

For sure, for sure. Do you have any other questions?

DeltaSauce: 28:25

No, that's it actually, thank you. Like I love asking people questions, like I love getting their insight, yeah, I love asking people questions.

NorCal Guy: 28:32

I love getting their insight. Yeah, no, it's fun. It's always fun, do you?

DeltaSauce: 28:39

have any upcoming projects or things in the works that you'd like to talk about? I actually do, and I'm really excited about it. To be honest, it is my first foray into physical artwork.

DeltaSauce: 28:48

Physical to a degree where it's not a print. It's not a print, it's oil on canvas. So I'm yeah, and it's actually going to auction house which makes me even more excited like I am going to auction house with six one-on-one pieces. They're going to be all oil on canvas. And I had the privilege of working with matter labs. I don't know if you know who matter labs are, but they have these robots that do paintings.

DeltaSauce: 29:11

They paint in oil oh, oh, wow okay so I ended up having the experience of like going during nft nyc. I traveled up to their facility and got to see in person like them create one of my one-of-one pieces for this series and it was so eye-opening and I loved it. I I ended up recording footage of it and sharing that on Twitter. I'm excited for this series because it allows it adds that physicality to artwork that digital art doesn't have. I love tangible artwork.

DeltaSauce: 29:43

My big moment was going to the MoMA and seeing the Monet's Just being awestruck because when you have a piece of artwork hanging in your home or hanging in a gallery or a museum, it holds more weight, I feel, than having it on a digital display. Like there's a level of tangibility and it and it pulls you in more because we're so used to looking at our screens or looking at our computers at artwork all the time. Like I feel like it's lost its effect on us because we're so used to it. But like when you go to a museum or a gallery, you know and you put your phone down, you're just awestruck by the artwork and like that was the whole goal with this series and I'm really proud of it. And like I'm really excited about it and we're still working on like the catalog and like getting that ironed out, but like it's a new experience for me as an artist. I love and I thrive on new experiences and learning stuff I want to learn more about different aspects.

DeltaSauce: 30:37

I want to know more about the whole auction house scene and I want to know more about the traditional art world. Matter Labs was eye-opening as well, getting into that whole. Them using robots to actually paint oil paintings and the quality of them were so. It was so wonderful and it was such a delight and I've. They actually sent me a picture recently of like all six hanging on a wall and it was just like I wish I was there. You know, I wish like I could just hop on a plane and just go there and just look at it and just spend hours, just, you know, going over the details because like it holds that amount of weight to me, like you know, looking at your artwork like in a physical setting, like it has this heavy weight to you and it feels like all this emotion is pouring out of the artwork and it's just like nothing else exists but you and the artwork yeah, wow, when, when are you expecting this to happen?

DeltaSauce: 31:26

go live we are aiming for june 15th that that that is our goal is June 15th, and I'm actually working with Transient Labs as well on this. Like it's a collab with multiple different people in the Web3 space and I'm so excited about it. Like we're going to trace chip each one of them and I'm going to get more notes added to them and it's just for me. But it's also edited and Photoshopped and digitally painted over in Photoshop. But it also has this level of like you know these transient chips that add these, you know, extra notes to it. It's just like it's about technology combining with, like this traditional idea of, like a traditional painting, and I love it. I love like mixing up these mediums and like these ideas and genres and blending them together. I feel like that's where AI artwork really shines. Like it shines because you can do all of this crazy stuff and mix it together and have it coalesce into this, you know, cohesive idea right man, that sounds really cool.

DeltaSauce: 32:36

I can't wait for that, to go live and follow along and see how it goes, and see all of them dude I I'm like this is one of my moments for the year that I'm really excited about because, like it's been in the works for so long and it's just finally seeing everything come to fruition and seeing the final piece of artwork and seeing the quality of it, and getting to talk to all these amazing people doing amazing things in the space and trying to move the space forward and they actually care, they actually care, like. That to me, is like lining yourself up with people that actually care about what you're doing, your art journey, and like they actually care about the artwork. That that's very important to me, cause I know this space can have a lot of bad actors in it. So it's really about like lining yourself up with the right people and I'm really happy with, like the team that's behind me and like the people that I got to work with, like during these past few months to work with like during these past few months.

NorCal Guy: 33:30

Yeah Well, that's awesome. That is great to hear. I'm I'm excited for that. I'm excited for you. Congratulations on that. And yeah, Delta, thank you so much for your time today and for coming on the podcast and, uh, I enjoyed this chat with you, Thank you.

DeltaSauce: 33:50

Thank you very much for having me Like. This was a blast. I love this experience and you Thank you. Thank you very much for having me. This was a blast. I love this experience and I can't wait to talk to you more.

NorCal Guy: 34:00

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