In this episode, Lucy Kind interviews Aza Raskin, the co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, and the co-founder and executive director of the Earth Species Project. Aza grew up in Silicon Valley (his father started the Macintosh project at Apple) and began his career at Mozilla where he was the inventor of the infinite scroll. Lucy asks him if he regrets this innovation. Aza expands on his vision for cultivating a world where human attention is not just decommodified but valued as our most treasured resource. He also explains the tech behind the Earth Species Project's efforts to decode animal communication and the implications of a universal translator on deep human listening. Aza is a multitude of metaphors and his vision creates hope for a new era of humane technology.