Canine Companionship Charting a New Course in Life with Jeff Goodrich

Have you ever considered that a dog might hold the key to unlocking your best self? That's exactly what Jeff Goodrich discovered with his loyal companion Duder by his side. In today's conversation, Jeff shares his incredible transformation from a sedentary lifestyle to becoming an ultra-marathon runner, all thanks to the daily walks and the lessons learned from his four-legged friend. The connection between humans and animals is profound, and Jeff's journey in "Dude and Duder: How My Dog Saved My Life" is a testament to the unexpected ways our pets can inspire us to become better humans.

We're all carrying burdens, but what if we could drop them as easily as a dog discards its 'poop bags'? Jeff Goodrich's story isn't just about fitness; it's about letting go of the heavy emotional baggage that slows us down. Through his running metaphor, Jeff opens up about the personal affirmations and visualization techniques that helped him shed the weight of past grievances. His approach has not only revolutionized his own life but has also touched the lives of others, including those he mentored at a local women's prison. It's an episode filled with heart and hope, showing that change is possible, no matter where you find yourself in life.

Ending on a note of motivation and introspection, Jeff speaks to the power of fear and inspiration in driving personal change. His unique concept of writing a personal eulogy serves as a potent reminder to live life fully and without regret. As we wrap up our inspiring chat, Jeff's transformation serves as a beacon of hope, proving that it's never too late to chase your dreams or to find inspiration in the most unexpected companions. So, grab your headphones and maybe even your furry friend, and let's get ready for a story that will have you looking at your daily walk in a whole new light.

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Speaker 1: 0:00

And so my initial why was I need to do this for my wife and my kids? They don't particularly like who I am either, and if I'm going to do something, they're going to be my primary focus. That's where kind of the initial why that has evolved. I now do it for myself a lot too. The better I can take care of myself, the better state of mind I personally am in. Then that allows me to be a better person and a better husband and a better father. Then that allows me to be a better person and a better husband and a better father.

Speaker 2: 0:29

Hey, uncommon Leaders, welcome back. This is the Uncommon Leader Podcast and I'm your host, john Gallagher. Today, I'm joined by Jeff Goodrich, a man whose personal transformation is nothing short of remarkable. In our conversation today, we dive into Jeff's incredible journey as chronicled in his recent book Dude and Duder how my Dog Saved my Life. He opens up about the trials of middle age, the life-changing decision to get a dog named Duder, and how simple daily acts like walking his dog set him on a path to dramatic self-improvement. Listen in closely as Jeff explains the tools and techniques that helped him let go of the past and transformed his life, how he uses fear of regret and writing his eulogy from a new perspective as motivation, and how his story has touched the lives of many, including those at a local women's prison. Stay tuned for one incredible tale of growth, self-discovery and the unconditional bond between a man and his dog. Let's get started, jeff Goodrich, it's great to have you on the Uncommon Leader Podcast. My friend, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1: 1:30

I'm doing very good.

Speaker 2: 1:31

Thank you, John, for having me on Happy to be here Absolutely Looking forward to our conversation, talking about your book today and what you have going on, and maybe even a little bit about what's next for you as well. But before we do that, I'll give you the first question. I always give my first-time guests on the Uncommon Leader podcast, and that's. Could you tell us a story from your childhood that still impacts who you are today as a leader or as a person?

Speaker 1: 1:53

I spent some time thinking about this one. I am the oldest of five kids, and one thing I remember is my mom and dad being young parents trying to figure out how to raise kids, basically. But my mom was an avid reader. She always had a book on the nightstand, she always had a book in the kitchen. Anytime she had a free moment, she was always reading a book, and that always stuck with me. But I didn't understand the value of that until later on in life, and so now I have tried to adopt that same idea of being a learner, and books are a great way to do that. So that's one thing I learned from my mom.

Speaker 2: 2:35

Well, there's no doubt about that, and it took me a while to learn that also, and my mom would, as she listens to this and I've used this story a couple of different times, but she would always say I told you to read when you were little and you didn't do it as much, and now I'm reading all the time. So, okay, it just takes me a long, a little bit longer than it takes others to get ready to go there, but I know you and I have uh, quite, you know, uh similar, we'll say ages in terms of middle life and some of the transformations we made. So I'm looking forward to chatting with you today about your book that came out recently, called Dude and Duder how my Dog Saved my Life. So let's start with this who's dude and who's duder?

Speaker 1: 3:17

Duder is my dog. He's a Vizsla dog. He's seven years old right now and we brought him into our lives when he was just a 10-week-old puppy, and so that is Duder, and there is a story of who Dude is. So we can dive into that a little bit, but let me back up a little bit. Should we do that? Sure, absolutely so. The book came about as a result of me essentially hitting midlife and quote, having a midlife crisis.

Speaker 1: 3:48

When I was 49 years old, I was really, really in a bad place in my life. I was living what I call the standard American lifestyle eating junk food all the time, drinking my daily Dr Pepper, sitting on the couch every night watching TV with the big bowl of ice cream Some of these standard things that we're all supposed to do. I was overweight. I was about 70, 75 pounds overweight. My wife I had learned this later on she was actually putting plans in place to divorce me Relationship was very rocky, relationship with the rocky relationship with the kids. I was just bored, mundane, hated my job, just basically hated life. I think if I went to the doctor I would probably be diagnosed with depression, stuff like that. Then I decide somewhere along the line here. Okay, something's not right, I need to change something. And I decided to get a dog. Talk my wife into getting the dog. We found a Vizsla puppy and brought Duder in. And it all started one day when my wife said take that dog for a walk, put the leash on Duder. We walked out the front door. It was cold, I was miserable. I'm like what am I doing out here? But we went for a walk around the block. But, john, nothing extraordinary happened on that first walk, not like this massive aha moment oh, I'm going to change my life type of a thing. But what did happen was the next day we went for another walk and the next day we did it again, and the next day we did it again.

Speaker 1: 5:19

This simple new pattern, new habit starting to form in my life is how it started. And we just started going for a walk every day and this lasted about a year and during that time I turned 50 years old, midlife crisis, all this stuff that comes into your head at 50 years old, all my great regrets of life, all the things I didn't do, all the things I did do. I mean this is crazy. So this is kind of how it all started, right there. And then I started to observe Duder and I became aware that something was wrong. I made a choice to do something about it and I decided why do I need to do this for my kids, for my wife, for myself? And then I went to work and then we started just changing things in my life and I tell the book the book is written in analogies and stories of from my dog lessons that I learned from my dog. So Well, you touched on it there that your dog saved your life, right.

Speaker 2: 6:22

So it just started with a little walk. You were overweight, just started a little walk, but it started with a life right. So it just started with a little walk. You were overweight. It started with a little walk, but it started with a decision, right, and somebody helped you with that decision, it sounds like, and Essence told you to go do this kind of where else and what you heard. So you mentioned as you started on that journey, you started to really learn some things, both about Duder through observation, but my guess is you're learning some more things about yourself as you went through that journey to get started. What are some of the things you started to learn about yourself as you went on that journey? Those walks?

Speaker 1: 6:51

Well, the awareness is just important I became aware of because before I was just living my life coasting along here, I wasn't totally aware of how bad things were. So what I really became aware of and what I learned about myself is dude, you're doing nothing with your life, You're just coasting here, you can't even, you don't even like to wake up in the morning. A big factor was when I looked in the mirror and I called it my cringe factor. I would look in the mirror and I did not like that guy. Cringe factor I would look in the mirror and I did not like that guy. So I learned that I didn't like myself. That was a big part of this is one thing that I learned. I was just lazy, didn't like myself and looked in the mirror and it would just make me cringe.

Speaker 2: 7:39

That awareness is critical, and then the choice that you made obviously going forward is critical as well. One of the things that I often talked about is we will change when the pain is remaining the same, and it sounds like you had some pain, whether it was through depression or even physically, but that pain remaining the same really has to be greater than the pain of the change itself, the choice to change, the exercise, the disciplines, the habits that you need to put in place. But even more importantly and you touched on it the why. So what was the, what was the moment for you where that why kind of crystallized or came into vision? And what was that why for you?

Speaker 1: 8:14

The why is a constantly changing thing. It really is, and it depends on different stages that you go through Stages of enable, of enlightenment. You know things that come into your mind, and so my initial why was I need to do this? For my wife and my kids, right, they don't particularly like who I am either, and if I'm going to do something, they're going to be my primary focus. That's where kind of the initial why that has evolved. I now do it for myself a lot too. The better I can take care of myself, the better state of mind I personally am in. Then that allows me to be a better person and a better husband and a better father and now, with two grandkids living with me, a better grandfather. So that's kind of how the wise changed a little bit. Is the focus? Is I do it for me, I do it because I want to do it.

Speaker 2: 9:11

I love that and I think that's very important, that self-care becomes so important on that journey, especially us 50 plus guys become so important on that journey, especially us 50 plus guys. You know we need to make sure that we are when we get on the other side of that 50, that we realize that we take care of ourselves and we can only be halfway there. We got, we got some things to do, but let's, let's do this right. I may get this a little bit out of order, but you tell me and you can direct me backward, so you know why. Why write the book and and who did you write it for?

Speaker 1: 9:44

Well, let me share a few lessons from the dog of kind, of how we got to that state of writing a book.

Speaker 2: 9:50

Yeah, and I love the book the way it's laid out in terms of like 75 I think. There's like 75 lessons in there, so let's, let's, let's go there, absolutely Okay.

Speaker 1: 10:02

Well, a couple of little things that had the most impact. Probably one that had the biggest impact early on. I'm sitting there on the couch at night watching TV, duder sitting next to me. I look over at Duder and I realized he's not watching TV. He doesn't care what's on the TV and I talk about it in the book. You know this got me thinking. So I saw, I observed the behavior from Duder and it got me thinking about something. I didn't particularly care what was on TV either, I was just watching whatever channel was on.

Speaker 1: 10:31

So I realized that input of the TV was just not good for me. Between Hollywood, what they're trying to tell you, between the news, what news and politics is trying to tell you. Between the commercials, it's not a real world. And then I made the decision to cancel my TV subscription. So I essentially stopped watching TV. I have not watched mainstream TV for six years. I've stopped watching sports. I don't care about sports anymore. I don't pay any attention to politics. My wife and I will sit down and stream a movie now and again, but TV is not a core part of my life. But you then need something else. So that's when I really embraced this idea of reading, listening to books, listening to podcasts. At the time my daughter referred a podcast to me and I didn't even know what a podcast was. What's a podcast? So I really started doing it. So I had a whole new set of inputs coming in and this had a huge impact. Okay, there's so much more out there in the world that I wasn't aware of. Different ways to think about life, different ways to think about things Started listening to health and fitness type programs, and then you know, another lesson from Duder was that when we first brought him in, I spent a great deal of time researching what to feed him. What do I feed Duder? What kind of food do I buy? Kibble, raw, whatever, whatever. And that really got me thinking about. I spent so much more time researching what to feed him than what to feed myself. So I started researching what to feed myself and I made some choices here of changing my nutrition and I went into it.

Speaker 1: 12:18

I've tried to lose weight in the past. You go on a diet and you know it's just an up and down, fundamental thing. But I went into it a little bit different this time. You know you don't go run out and join a gym to lose weight. That's just not how it works. I had to get my mind straight first. So why do I want to lose weight? Then I changed my nutrition, meaning I needed to change a lifestyle nutrition, not go on a diet, because a diet is a temporary thing. So I fundamentally did that and you know, six, seven, eight months I lost pretty much lost all 70 pounds. Wow, so that had a huge impact. So here I am physically feeling so much better. The nutrition changes how your brain operates, so my brain could operate so much better.

Speaker 1: 13:06

And then all this new input coming in allowed me to start okay, what else can I learn from Duder? And I started this little blog of all these ideas of things. That's how it started, okay. And then at one point I had this idea In fact, there's another lesson how it started. Okay, and then at one point I had this idea In fact, there's another lesson from Duder. Okay, keep going with these lessons. Right, there you go.

Speaker 1: 13:32

It happened when I would take Duder out and we got to the point where I would take him out for a walk out on these trails and I'd have to put a leash on him and we'd reach a point where there were not a lot of people around, so I'd reach down and pull that leash off and Duder would just take off running down the trail as fast as he could go. It was fun to watch. It really got me thinking about. What are some of the leashes that I had on myself In the past. I couldn't even conceive of the possibility of writing a book. That was just what are you talking about? Write a book, but you start thinking about it, you start taking these leases off. What's holding me back? What's holding me back? And then, somewhere along the line, this idea why can't I turn my blog into a book? Why can't I write all this into a book? And so I just started writing a book and put it all together. So that's kind of how the book came about.

Speaker 2: 14:18

Love that, Love that compiling those together and that makes sense in terms of how the book is compiled. Those stories that you had you talked about a couple of them already, Jeff. Do you have a favorite one or two that really kind of just stick with you and are go-to stories you like to think about all the time?

Speaker 1: 14:35

There is one that, yes, really sticks with me and I've explored this and I continue to explore this one. Um well, at some point we can talk about this, john. At some point along my my journey here I I lost the weight. My daily walks started turning into running and I've become an avid runner. And one of my favorite stories from Deuter is is I would take him out for these runs and we would go out early morning and I'd have to have him on, depending where we're going, sometimes on the trails, I'd let him go off leash, sometimes in the neighborhoods I'd have to have him on a leash. We'd be running along and he would always have to stop to take a poop right. So I'd have to stop running. I'd have to sit there and wait for him to finish and I'd have to pull out my poop bag, clean up his mess. And here I got this warm bag of poop in my hand and we'd have to continue our run and I'm carrying this warm bag. Oh well, we're running.

Speaker 1: 15:37

It was not fun and smelly and everything, and it really got me thinking about 50 plus years of my life. How much poop bags was I carrying around in my head? These represented past events, past things, you know. I even have memories of somebody saying things to me when I was in junior high school that were still in my head, things that my wife and I would fight about over 30 plus years of marriage still hanging on to it, and it would cause aggravation. So a lot of people, a lot of events, a lot of past thinking represented these poop bags and I was still carrying them around with me, and it takes time. You can't just go drop the poop bag in the garbage can and they're out of your head. There's tools and techniques. You know to do this, but that's one of my more powerful lessons. You got to get that stuff out, throw it away, get it out of your head. It's all in the past Doesn't serve me at all right now. That's one of my favorite lessons.

Speaker 2: 16:44

Jeff, I love that. And again, even going back to what you were speaking about previously, the limiting beliefs that we have, but also you know, I'll use the term at least insecurities that exist, those highlight reels of the times that we think back on, those negatives and at times have the ability to far outweigh the positives. But certainly the analogy of carrying it around like a warm poop bag puts a different perspective on it. Now you mentioned tools and techniques as well, so let's stay on that poop bag story. What are some one or two tools or techniques that you've utilized to be able to let go of some of those highlights that continue to play over and over?

Speaker 1: 17:27

Well, one of them one is I've developed over the last few years a daily mantra. These include things like I am statements, you know, I am worthy, I'm proud of myself, I am a successful person, things like that. I have quite a list and I keep a version of it on my phone. Keep a version of it in my wallet. I read it every morning and I read a version of it on my phone. Keep a version of it in my wallet. I read it every morning and I read it every night, and so just this daily mantra helps plant these seeds in your head. That's one thing.

Speaker 1: 17:58

I've done little things where, even like two weeks ago, somebody at work says something to me and I'd go out on this run, and I keep thinking about it in my head. I can't get this thing. This person said to me how do I get her out on this run? And I keep thinking about it in my head. I can't get this thing. This person said to me how do I get her out of my head? I've done really silly things. It might sound silly, but close my eyes, visualize this big room in my head and I got a big red door in front of me. I open that door, I push that person out and I close the door, and that helps just get those thoughts out of my head. That's one technique that I've used.

Speaker 2: 18:34

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Speaker 2: 19:07

Okay, let's get back to the show. Okay, let's get back to the show. So, visualization technique to go along with frankly positive affirmations or positive thoughts to keep yourself in the right frame of mind as well, because to your, really your for one of your first statements. Be aware of that and and help to overcome that as quickly as we can. Kick in that thought uh, or, or a person, uh, out the red door.

Speaker 2: 19:41

Love that as a technique in terms of going forward. I appreciate you sharing had these things in terms of having an impact on your life. Do you have a success story about someone who shared with you a win that you're particularly proud of with regards to learning from you or learning from your book that you would like to share?

Speaker 1: 20:05

Maybe, maybe there's a couple. Yes, I've, I've heard from a few people that they they enjoyed the book, they were inspired it. I mean I have a few people that they enjoyed the book, they were inspired. I mean I have a cousin that is now in the process. She's lost about 50 pounds so far and she started walking her dog every day. And that's how it starts Simple thing she started walking her dog every day, changed her nutrition and she's now lost about 50 pounds. So just observing that, I will share this.

Speaker 1: 20:28

John, I have joined my local Toastmasters club and our Toastmasters club also has a Toastmasters club at our local women's prison. So some of these residents that are in prison attend these Toastmasters meetings and we help teach them, we let them practice things like standing up in front of a parole board and they practice what's called an icebreaker speech Give a four to six minute speech, Tell us about your life. And I've heard some horrific stories from these residents in this women's prison. Can't imagine. But I've delivered my little story and little speech to them, to these residents, several times and they they really love the story. And a couple of the residents have gotten out of prison. They continue to attend Toastmasters Club they each have they all bought a copy of my book. They've all read it and they've all started to incorporate it, and they tell me on a regular basis that it had a role in them overcoming some of the things that they've had in their lives. So that's something I will share.

Speaker 2: 21:40

That's impactful. I appreciate you sharing that, no doubt about it, and something that you can absolutely be proud of in terms of what changed. So you've been through that journey over five years. What are some of the things that you continue to put in place to ensure you mentioned lifestyle? Now you're a runner.

Speaker 1: 22:02

I recently read something where you completed what is it?

Speaker 2: 22:05

an ultra? A 50-miler, 50-miler. So you went from just a few years ago not walking at all and desp walking your dog even once in terms of the activity that it was, and now you're running 50 miles at one time. Goodness gracious, what else you got going on that keeps you going?

Speaker 1: 22:20

Well, that's another lesson from Duder is. One time we were out walking and I watched him run and I said, hey, maybe I can do this. I I had lost all the weight before you start running. Do not run as a mechanism to lose weight. I wouldn't recommend that.

Speaker 1: 22:35

But I started running one day, about 200 yards before I ran out of breath, but I had the thought maybe I could do this. So my runs just started getting a little longer. I signed up for half marathons, then I signed up for a few marathons and then I signed up for a couple of, you know, 55k, a 60K, and then, yeah, just last Saturday so what? Four or five days ago, I completed my first 50-mile trail race. The running became very symbolic for me as, one, my daily habit, and two well, if I can keep running farther and farther and farther, then what else can I do?

Speaker 1: 23:12

I've already published one book. Can I publish another book? Can I continue building a coaching practice? Can I continue to help people? I'm here, I want to inspire people. You and I are familiar with a gentleman named Rory Vaden. I remember, early on in my journey, hearing him on a podcast and this one statement that resonated with me is. You are best suited to help the person you used to be and there are so many of my old me out there that I would hope can inspire. I mean, my transformation started roughly 50 years old. I'm 56 right now and I just finished my next 50 miler. I already have another one on a calendar, by the way. Always have something on a calendar, always continue Fantastic.

Speaker 1: 24:01

There's a couple of things that keep me going. So there's always. If you think about people going on a diet, losing weight and what percentage of them just gain the weight back, it's because they hate. They do something, they reach a milestone and then they just fall back into their old patterns, and so that was really hard for me. How do I keep going Now that I've made some changes? What keeps me going and there's there's probably a couple of different things that really drive me One that's more powerful for me is fear of regrets.

Speaker 1: 24:36

When I hit 50 and had all these regrets, I did not like it, so I incorporate fear into that. I do not want any more regrets in my life. I'm afraid of them, and if I don't put myself out there, if I don't put myself in the race, if I don't do everything that I can, then I will have regrets, and I don't want that. So I use this fear of regrets idea. That's very powerful.

Speaker 1: 25:05

Another thing that I've done recently early on in my journey, I heard from a lot of people write your own eulogy. Early on in my journey, I heard from a lot of people write your own eulogy. A lot of your listeners have probably done that, maybe heard that, and that was a maybe two or three years ago, so that had an impact on me keeping going and changing. How do I want to be remembered? But about a month ago, john, I did it a little different.

Speaker 1: 25:27

I needed to change it up a little bit because I realized that I wrote my eulogy with my family, friends and all these people in the audience and so, as I continued on doing things, I realized, well, I was really doing them for how I want them to remember me. So I sat down about a month ago and redid my eulogy, with me as the speaker, me in the casket and me the only one in the audience. How do I want me to remember me? And my eulogy turned out very different when you do that, so they both play a role. But I really wanted to know how do I want myself to remember me? Nothing to do with anybody else and that really drives me forward and that kept me going through my 50 mile race, which took me 13 hours to do, by the way. So it was. It was mentally exhausting.

Speaker 2: 26:23

So it has to be something. Jeff. I appreciate that perspective as well. Like what? What do that perspective as well? What do you want to be aware of yourself at that point in time? You mentioned the fear of regret. That is something that may drive you, but certainly don't leave anything in the tank. That's the thing. Use it up, the gifts that you've been given, those God-given abilities, use them up. Don't leave them there. And continue to make an impact as you go forward.

Speaker 2: 26:55

And speaking of impact, it's a book test that actually another Brand Builders Group author has talked about. Before Someone's going to read your book, jeff, we're going to put a link to it in the show notes so folks can go and get it. Clearly, you can get it on Amazon, dude and duder. When somebody is finished reading that book and they're going to set it up on a shelf just like the one that's kind of behind me in terms of books that are there and a year later they're going to walk by that bookshelf, I'm going to see that binding and they're going to see the name of that book. What do you want them to take away when they see that binding? What do you want them to think of when they see that book sitting on the shelf of.

Speaker 1: 27:30

When they see that book sitting on the shelf. Change is possible Regardless of age or circumstance. You can change your life.

Speaker 2: 27:42

That'd probably be the most important message Change is possible. Love that. And again, I think you've talked about many different things. Mindset You've talked about starting small. It just starts with a little walk. Right, it turns into a 50-mile run or a 60-mile run, a 50-mile trail run, which is totally different than just running on the street. No doubt about it. In terms of what happens and continuous improvement in ourselves, that we're never really done. I like that as in as you think about that eulogy exercise. That's there, jeff. I think this has been a great conversation that we've had. Where can folks stay in touch with you going forward, because you're going to have more things to talk about, you're going to have more things to say. You're going to have more things to write about as you go forward. Where can they connect with you?

Speaker 1: 28:33

Best place is on my website, dudeanddudercom, and I have an Instagram page, a YouTube channel and some of those social things that I'm trying to and starting to build up, but that's primarily, and I have a weekly newsletter. You can follow me on there, and all my past newsletters are posted on the website too.

Speaker 2: 28:53

Okay, Back to something that we started with. You told me who Duder was who's dude.

Speaker 1: 29:03

Along the journey here at some point when I would look in the mirror and did not like that guy I used to see.

Speaker 1: 29:12

Sometimes you have to create a new version of yourself, and that's essentially what I was working on. That old guy, jeff, just wasn't going to cut it. Old thinking, old patterns, old lifestyle just wasn't going to cut it. So I mentally did this exercise of I got to create a new version of me. The new version of me, the new version of me, is dude, and it just happens to be a good marketing thing to go along with the dog's name.

Speaker 2: 29:39

Yeah it sounds good, right, I mean, put that marketing thing aside, but I love, I love the persona that exists inside of there and again some of that, whether it's looking in the mirror, but it's talking about even that new mindset that you talked about, and so maybe that does require a new persona that you have to use to keep you in the mindset you want to be in. Jeff, I've enjoyed our conversation. I know the listeners of the Uncommon Leader podcast are really going to enjoy this. I want to wish you the best going forward with regards to your running, your continued transformation in life as you move, as we both move closer from 50 and now into the next decade, as, god willing, we get closer to and certainly best of luck on the next book that you're bringing out as well. So thank you for being a guest on the Uncommon Leader Podcast.

Speaker 1: 30:25

Thank you, john, appreciate it.

Speaker 2: 30:29

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