You Become A Better Leader When You Stop Avoiding Feelings | The Uncommon Leader Randy Lyman | Episode 220

What if the secret to scaling your business by 30X wasn't found in a spreadsheet, but in your own emotional awareness?

In this episode, John Gallagher sits down with Randy Lyman, physicist, entrepreneur, and author of The Third Element. Randy shares his profound journey from a logic-driven, emotion-suppressing business owner to a leader who unlocked unprecedented success by embracing the emotional component of the human experience.

🚀 Key Frameworks Discussed:

• The Three-Legged Stool of Success: Balancing Thoughts, Actions, and Emotions for Peak Performance.
• The Mirror Principle: Understanding how your external environment reflects your internal emotional state.
• Inspiration vs. Motivation: Why fear-based leadership fails in the modern era and how to truly inspire your team.
• The Physics of Energy: How a scientist views the law of attraction and its practical application in business.

 🚀 Actionable Takeaways:

• Identify the "incompetence" in your life and see what internal wound it might be mirroring.
• Shift from "telling" to "asking" to empower your team to own their ideas 100%.
• Practice "vulnerability as power" to build a culture of trust and belonging.

𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 Randy Lyman👇
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Transcript

Lead With Service Not Ego

SPEAKER_00 0:00

The only way a leader can really be successful is when we don't focus on ourselves. When we take the focus off of ourselves and we put the focus on the people we lead and we say, how can I help these people improve their the position that I'm leading them in? And how can I help them change their perspective about who they are, who the world around them is, and how they communicate with the people around them. And that's the real impact is the people that we touch. Now, when we do that right, we have business success, we have success that gets recognized for promotions and such. But the moment we want to look at our own success and say, hey, look at me, we're gonna fail as a leader. And so the impact doesn't happen immediately, but when we take this approach, the impact is so much more profound, so much more lasting, and so much more fulfilling.

Randy Lyman And The Missing Ingredient

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Hey Uncommon Leaders, welcome back. This is the Uncommon Leader Podcast. I'm your host, John Gallagher. You know, we often discuss on this show better thinking and better doing, and today we're talking about a missing ingredient that many leaders may be too afraid to touch. Our guest today is Randy Lyman. He's a physicist, a serial entrepreneur who spent 40 years building eight-figure businesses, including an Inc. 500 company. Now, on paper, Randy had achieved the ultimate American dream, but he found himself sitting at the top, realizing he was completely disconnected and unable to enjoy the success he spent decades building. He's also the author of the third element, the missing key to activating the law of attraction, and he's here to teach us how bridging logic and human behavior can be the ultimate competitive advantage. Randy Lyman, welcome to the Uncommon Leader Podcast. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Every day is a great day, and it's great to be here with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

I love the I love the uh approach in terms of making it a great day each each day we go forward. I'm looking forward to conversation. Certainly a little bit of pre-record conversation that could have been even B-roll as we talk about some of the things. But I know that the listeners of the Uncommon Leader Podcast are going to find great value in what we have to discuss today.

Childhood Choice To Shut Emotions Down

SPEAKER_01 2:02

So let's jump in though with the first question I always ask my first-time guests, and that's to ask you to tell me a story from your childhood that still impacts who you are today as a person or as a leader.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Well, a story that definitely impacted me the first half of my life was a good friend of mine. His family, his father and mother were extremely emotional people, and their life was a mess. And so I looked at that and I said, Wow, there's emotions. I got to stay away from that, got to turn that off. So for the first half of my life until I was uh 28, I completely ignored my emotions. I educated myself, I worked hard and I found success, but I was also limited by the fact I had just shut off the emotional component of my human experience. And that led me to challenges, but it also led me to a clear understanding of how important the emotional component of our lives is.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

When I think about that, Randy, and I think about kind of, you know, doing the introduction where I talked about you've you've built companies, you've sold companies, you've seen that success that was there. And then there was a moment for you that kind of changed what that was. So we do a great thinking strategy, we have action that we have the component, but your book really about the third element. But there was a turning point for you that identified this third element, that emotional element.

Maria, Healing, And The Retreat Breakthrough

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Tell me about that story right there as well and how you got started on this journey of emotional healing.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

So I started on the journey when I met a woman by the name of Maria in November 1989. I was filling in in one of my uh differential repair shops, automotive differential repair shops, filling in for the service manager who was on vacation. And Maria walked in because she was having some problems with the differential in her car. And I knew I had to spend time with this one. I was just smitten immediately. And so we spent three years together. And during those three years, she introduced me to the unseen side of life, the emotional, spiritual side of life, and kind of held a space for me and was patient with me as I became aware of my emotions, became aware of my emotional trauma from the past, nothing serious, but still it affected me, and became aware of a different way of looking at life. And once I started looking at the unseen spiritual side of life, who we are, who are we that's bigger than our mind and our body? And I started to get in touch with my anger. When I was getting through the anger, I got in touch with the underlying emotional wounds of betrayal and abandonment and loneliness and all that. So I started working through all this. And after a few years of making some progress, I had a situation where I had several people in my life who were incompetent at work and at home. They wouldn't show up on time, they couldn't do their job, they couldn't just couldn't get things done. And so Maria, my partner, my romantic partner and mentor, said, look at yourself, everything as a mirror. So I looked at my thoughts and I tried to become more competent in my thoughts and my planning and such and my communications. I looked at my actions and I tried to become more competent in my actions and none of it was working. And after a couple months, it so happened I went to a four-day business communication retreat. And during the third day, we went through an exercise, and I talk about this in my book, The Third Element. We went through an exercise where I got in touch with the underlying emotional wound, which was 12 years earlier. My uncle had said, I wish you were more like your friend John. Now, what he meant was, I really love you and I wish I could connect with you. But all I heard at 17 years old was he didn't approve of me. So that served me in a positive way for 12 years because it drove me to overachieve to get my family's approval and I accomplished a lot. But as all that pain within me was wanting to be re-experienced and released, it was drawing incompetence into my life. Not because I was incompetent, but because I thought if I was competent that I would get my family's approval. Well, I went through this big emotional release at this retreat, and four days later I show up at work and what I thought was magic at the time, but now I know it's not at all. The people in my life who were incompetent either became competent magically out of nowhere immediately, or two out of the six left my life. So I'm a physicist, I'm a scientist, I look at cause and effect. The cause was I had the huge emotional release. I broke down in tears in a group of 15 people. I was crying and letting all this emotion out, which is fine. I'm not ashamed of that. I wasn't then, I'm not now. And then the effect was the issue I had around the universe bringing incompetent people to me so that I would have a reminder of what I could heal from the past. Once I healed what I needed to heal from the past by experiencing that and releasing it, not touching on the surface, but diving in deep and experiencing that emotional release, then I no longer needed the reminder and the incompetent people either, as I said, became competent or left. Well, to me at first, with this was like, come on, this can't be real. Is this really happening? And so I looked at other issues that came up for me after that. I continued to be intellectually sound and logical and reasonable. I continued to take action. But whenever my thoughts and my actions would not bring me results, I said, oh yeah, I need to look at the emotions that I might need to be touching on. And when I did and I got to the underlying pain, then my world got better. And after doing that three or four, five times, I knew I had onto something. Now, after doing that, God, like probably 5,000 times for myself and a thousand times helping other people have emotional releases that improved their physical reality, I know that the universe responds to our thoughts, our actions, and our emotions. And it's not that I want to be an emotional person. It's not that I am really big on emotions because that's not how I'm wired naturally. It's because my experience and my observation as a scientist tells me that as the universe creates our world for us, it responds to, and not again, not only our thoughts and our actions, but really most importantly, to our emotions, because that's the most powerful component of our human

The Three-Legged Stool Of Success

SPEAKER_00 7:47

experience.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Now, I love that. And you turned it into a book as well, the third element, as you you kind of referenced. You've got your workbook there behind you for those that are watching on YouTube as well, that goes along with it. And you talk about the missing key. The third element is the missing key to the law of attraction. Let's just kind of talk about that a little bit. Who did you write it for? The the title, where did this come from? What's the law of attraction? This is a physicist in you, I believe. I'm a mechanical engineer. I don't quite have that depth over on the physics side. And I know you have a connection on the mechanical engineering side and some of the work that you've done. But who did you write this thing for? And tell me about the name of it.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

I wrote it for people who are on a path of uh of personal growth, personal improvement, whether you want to look at it as spiritual enlightenment or just finding mental clarity or whatever that might be. And so so many of us have heard about the law of attraction and we improve our thoughts and we improve our actions, how we how we operate in the world. But for me, that wasn't enough. I was really frustrated. And once I understood the emotional component and I added that to my repertoire, to my toolbox, in addition to my thoughts and my actions, then I found so much more success. So I already had multiple million-dollar businesses before I discovered this. But once I discovered it, I became more clear. So I showed up more clear as a leader, and then I started incorporating the concepts that I was using in my personal life. I incorporated those concepts into my businesses, and my businesses grew to 30 times what they were. And so anybody who's who's dabbled in or looked at the law of attraction says, I tried this and it didn't work. Well, they tried two out of the three components. And it's like a stool. I can sit on a three-legged stool. I can't sit on a two-legged stool. It's just not going to support me. And once we add this missing element, the third category, so to speak, of emotions, and we become aware of our emotions, we learn to work with them, not suppress them. Sometimes we have to put them aside for a moment. But the most powerful thing we can do is embrace our emotions, find healing, and then the law of attraction, which quantum physics is proving, everything is energy and nothing is called into solid form until it's required for us in this moment. Well, we're living moment to moment. And my body is only experienced, and my physical reality is only experienced now in the present moment. Like they say, I can't cook on yesterday's hot stove. And so my body is in the present moment. My physical, excuse me, my emotions have to be experienced through sensations in my physical body in the present moment. And then my mind, which runs the show, my thinking mind is never in the present moment. So my thinking mind cannot connect with my emotions. And so my emotions are bigger than time and space. My physical experience is right now, and my mind is removed from the now. So I had to find a way to have cooperation between my thinking mind, my physical body, and my emotions to become more clear. And once I figured it all out and I'd done it so many times, I said, I want to share this with the rest of the world so people can understand what levers do we pull to get a better response from life and from our relationships and our business success and our everything we experience on the planet. What levers do we pull? So that's what I've identified. It's pretty simple. And I share examples of mistakes I've made and lessons I've learned and how people can really take better charge of their life.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Yeah. So let's let's um, I want to almost take one step back before we talk about some of those examples and those solutions as you talk about.

Helping Leaders Face What Feels Scary

SPEAKER_01 11:08

You know, you mentioned the X performance improvement when you added this third leg to the stool in terms of your performance. The component that I'm thinking about is that, you know, the old, if it were that simple, everybody would do it. And they're not doing it today. What keeps leaders from connecting their emotional side to their knowledge and body side or their knowledge and action side, whether it's in their business, in their homes, in their communities, whatever it is in their leadership?

SPEAKER_00 11:33

It's scary, it's messy, it can be painful, and we don't have very many good examples of how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

I I think that's I mean the scary part of it, right? In terms of connecting, you say uh in your book, we cannot use rationality to heal emotional wounds. And that's what we want to use generally as leaders is be rational. Physicists, the equation is there to understand how we fix the problem. This is the this is part of the equation, but it's not easy to grasp. And so you've turned this into the book which's got examples. You've got a workbook that's worked for you, you said for a few years, and you're also doing the coaching model as well. So, how do you start with a leader to get them there, to have them become more aware and then address their emotions and their style?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

First, that leader needs two things before they're going to be successful. They need a curiosity of what else can I do? They have to have an open mind. That curiosity is important. And then they need to be interested in a deeper perspective. What is bigger than what I've already learned? What is how do we, as spiritual beings on a human path, how do we look at something bigger than ourselves and quantify that and turn it into something tangible we can work with? I don't just talk about esoteric ideas. Because I went from being so left-brained to becoming balanced, I had to go through all those steps myself. And I remember those steps because I live them. And what I do is I help people understand what it takes to make the changes, what specifically they can do to show up more clear and calm, and how they can incorporate the ideas that I've used in my business in their position of leadership. So it's it's first a matter of are they interested, are they willing to do the work, helping them understand how it works, giving them an incentive to be willing to try something new, and then they have to set the intent and do the work. And I can help them every step of the way, but again, they have to start out with that curiosity and that curiosity about what is there that's just deeper than on the

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SPEAKER_00 13:28

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SPEAKER_01 13:28

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People First Leadership And Lasting Impact

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Oh, okay. So from the leadership part, that's the most important. I I believe that as leaders, we have the privilege and the responsibility to help other people improve not just their performance at business, excuse me, at work, but who they are and how they understand themselves. So help people find their confidence, help them find their power and help the people we lead. Some of them are going to become leaders themselves. And that's the real impact we have. It's not just about business success and profits and growth. Oh, that's wonderful. And yes, everything that I share helps on success and profit and expansion. But the real impact that we have and the impact that I've taken with me, I've lost most of the fortune that I made through some poor decisions I've made after I sold my businesses. But what I carry with me today is the connection to the people that I worked with in the past, who I still stay in touch with, who have become leaders, who have found ways to improve their lives and improve their communities. The only way a leader can really be successful is when we don't focus on ourselves. When we take the focus off of ourselves and we put the focus on the people we lead, and we say, how can I help these people improve their position that I'm leading them in? And how can I help them change their perspective about who they are, who the world around them is, and how they communicate with the people around them. And that's the real impact is the people that we touch. Now, when we do that right, we have business success. We have success that gets recognized for promotions and such. But the moment we want to look at our own success and say, hey, look at me, we're gonna fail as a leader. And so the impact doesn't happen immediately, but when we take this approach, the impact is so much more profound, so much more lasting, and so much more fulfilling.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

You know, it's it's interesting. I mean, the the typical my Angela quote talks about people won't remember what you said, knowledge-wise. They won't remember what you did, your actions, and things like that. They remember how you made them feel made them feel as well. Back to that emotional component that's very important. And that impact lasts, and that becomes impact that stays forever inside that space. It's, you know, I refer to it often as the greatest story ever told. When somebody writes the name of people who have made an impact on their lives, it's generally about how they made them feel inside of that space. So for you and you get these, you get to start with these leaders on this journey, protect the innocent, not with names, but tell me tell me a story of a success story that you've worked with an individual, helping them become aware on this emotional side and how it's improved their both their business performance and their life.

A CEO Case Study On Listening

SPEAKER_00 16:56

I had a CEO I was working with who felt really alone because people just weren't listening to them. They were clear on what they wanted to accomplish. They were communicating it clearly, but people were still not paying attention and listening to them. So we dove into their personal life, and their one of their sons wasn't listening, wasn't paying attention. Their life was in a mess. And so I helped this person. I said, okay, what do you feel about your son? How frustrating is this? What are the underlying emotions? I don't want to go there. Okay, well, great, don't go there. How's that working for you? Let's go there. We're gonna do this in private, we're gonna do this on the side. I'm not expecting anything. There will be no judgment at all. I'm just hoping you can get in touch with how frustrated you feel about your son and his position and his situation. And it was very painful for him to get in touch with that underlying disappointment. Not disappointment in his son, but he was disappointed also in himself because he couldn't break through to his son. So he worked through his emotional challenges, through journaling, through writing, through lists, through long walks, through EFT tapping and other exercises. And as he was able to get in touch with his own emotional pain around his son, and he had his own breakthroughs, and then he was able to connect with his son. And when he did, and he made that personal connection with somebody who wasn't listening to him, and then he showed up at work, the universe did not have to remind him of that pain. And now people started listening to him. And now he was able to be more clear, he was able to be more calm, and he was able to be more considerate of the people around him because he understood the challenges they were going through. Also, anytime I tell people this, anytime we have a challenge, yes, we need to deal with the outside world, whether it's operations or discipline or boundaries or whatever that might be. But the real lasting solution is how do I change my thoughts? How do I change my actions? Or how do I feel the old emotions that I've been avoiding? So anyway, this CEO was able to find great success in business by dealing with his own personal challenges around his family.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Love that. And I love the impact on family as well, being a big part of it because I think those things can work hand in hand as you go through it.

From Fear To Inspired Team Performance

SPEAKER_01 18:59

When you have uh seen this in working with others, um because it's it's some would say that that's too soft, uh, this emotional getting connected with the emotional side. How do you help them to overcome that? I mean, it's a conversational, you don't know, Randy. I mean, that's just too soft, this emotional thing. I gotta be hard driving and make this happen.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

That's exactly what I said. And if you told me what I have to say today, if you told me what I say today, 40 years ago, I said, you said you're crazy, you're nuts. That didn't work. You just have to drive your way through. That's just shut up and get the job done. Okay, well, that worked 40 and 50 years ago, and it can work today, but we're in a different place today, and it's a good thing we're in a different place. Because in physics, we talk about power, which is the ability to accomplish work. So I'm a leader. What does that say? That means I'm leading other people. Why am I leading other people? Because I cannot do the job alone. I cannot do the work alone. So I have to figure out how do I inspire, I can motivate and push, and through fear I can motivate. But how do I inspire my team to be the best that they can be and accomplish the most work they can accomplish? So my team is going to do what serves them. So when they know that me as a leader, I'm showing up from a place where I'm of service, I'm vulnerable, I put my ego aside, and now I'm here to help them succeed. And when they can feel through my actions, they can feel I'm here to help them succeed, they're on my side. So when I deliver a message and say, this is what we need to accomplish, they hear me. Because I'm not showing up tense, I'm not showing up guarded, I'm not showing up pushing my way through anything. So they're calm, they relax, they listen, they feel appreciated. And now they're on my side because I they know I'm on their side. And that's the best way to accomplish anything, is when the team is on the side of the mission. When the team learns how to make decisions. I have to teach them, but I teach them how to make decisions and that that sort of planning process. I teach them how to disagree with each other. So when an argument comes up, it becomes a discussion and a debate, not an argument. And eventually these teams learn how to work together without me. That's the goal. It's for them to learn how to make decisions, how to disagree, how to find solutions, and how to accomplish more. Now, I can just push them through fear, but that's not the same as them wanting to perform. And then here's the other thing as they start to find success, and it's their ideas, even if their ideas are only 60% as good as mine, they own those ideas 100%. And I can come in and I can say, wow, you've done great here and there and the other place. And I have reasons to praise them for their ideas and their implementation. And now that I've acknowledged them and praised them, if I have something I'd like to see different, I don't tell them what to do. I ask questions. Hey, what about this? Have you thought of this? How's this working? So I let them come up with once I train them on how to, I let them come up with a lot of the plan and I guide them on that. And once they go to implement the plan, I'm involved. And if something doesn't work, I ask questions and I guide them towards a better solution. And if somebody has a better way, tell me about it. But for me, that's how I achieve my success and that's how. The company that I sold 11 years ago, the companies that I sold 11 years ago have continued to grow. And those people who were there as leaders are still leaders. And they found so much success, not because of me, but because I helped them find who they were and what they were capable of.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Excellent. That how does Randy Lyman of the today, we'll call it of today, develop and coach Randy Lyman of the West Coast differential organization of years ago. How do you get him started on improving?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Oh wow, now you're going back something years. I had somebody I used to work with actually comment today on Facebook and said, wow, it's great to see where you're at today because where you were 40 years ago, we were worried about you. So I thought I had to do everything perfectly. I thought I had to know all the answers. I thought I had to push people to accomplish things. And I also, here's the really important part. I thought a lot of people were driven by criticism. I was driven because I wanted to overachieve and I had emotional wounds. When somebody criticized me, I responded by getting stronger and by getting better. Most people are not wired that way and they shouldn't be. Most people respond to praise, positive acknowledgement, and positive coaching and helping. So that's the difference between who I was then and who I am today, is I know that when people are acknowledged for who they are as an individual, three things. They're acknowledged for who they are as an individual, they feel like they're contributing to the cause, and they feel like they belong to the group. That's more important than money. That's more important than anything else. And I didn't know that then.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Excellent. The third element, book test, the binding. Someone reads it, sits it up on the shelf, just like the one behind me, folks, and they see the binding a year later. Let's talk about the book test. What do you want them to think? What do you want them to do? What do you want them to feel, all three components, when they see that book on their bookshelf?

SPEAKER_00 23:44

I want them to look at it and say, wow, Randy was right. When I am willing to be brave enough, brave is the key word, when I'm willing to be brave enough to look at my own emotional wounding and challenges and and and be open-minded about this, I was able to find success. And my life is so much better now. And not only am I more successful at business, but I'm able to connect with the people I love, my family, my friends, my community. And I want them to say, thank you for sharing this message. Because this message, this message is bigger than me. This is not about me, and this is not for me. This is a message I'm delivering so people can find a way to improve their life. And that's what I hope they they uh I hope that's what I hope they take away from this and they realize what they're capable of, not what I'm capable of. It has nothing to do with me. I want them to be able to realize that they're so capable and they have control over their own.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Thank you for sharing that. Because I think I think that is the one. I'm again it's a matter of saying, is it one that I go back to and read again because it impacted me? But it certainly can be that one to say, if I can understand myself better, I got a better chance uh at succeeding

Cowboy Hat Fun And How To Connect

SPEAKER_01 24:46

in that. A couple fun questions, Randy, before I kind of ask you about where to get in touch with you as well. So I think you're my first guest who's worn their cowboy hat on the uh call, which I think is phenomenal. When you move west to east, if you do that in the future, are you still gonna wear that hat in on the east side?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

I'm wearing a cowboy hat since I was about three years old. I had I looked at a picture a couple days ago of me. I think it was at Christmas time in a cowboy hat. So I've been wearing a hat forever. And um I'm I'm comfortable with it. It works. And and part of the challenge is I sunburn really easily.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

That's gotta help their absolute look. I I sunburn as well. I mean, it's the Irish in me, no doubt, but I've got a noggin so big, I've got to find me a good hat. I want to find one that that fits properly. I see a couple of them up on your bookshelf as well. So I can I can certainly believe that you wear it all the time. And so, what's your karaoke song then that you're singing when you're wearing that hat out?

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Toby Keith.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

I should have been a cowboy. Come on, should have been a cowboy. There you go. Absolutely. Sedoni Arizona would absolutely do that to me as well. Toby's one of the things. I didn't know you were gonna ask that question. That's funny. I didn't, I just think that one, I love to ask that one in there, I can do uh in terms of that karaoke. It's one of the one of the ones I use to facilitate to get to know a little bit more about folks, and then I'll create a little playlist. If I'm facilitating a group, create a playlist and play all their songs on a break and get them to sing a little bit on break. Plus, if they come back late from a break, uh, then I will also have them sing for the whole group. That's kind of fun too. Anyway, and if it's their karaoke, they might like doing that. Um, I've enjoyed this time, Randy, no doubt about it. Where can folks learn more, get in touch with you? Where do you want them to go?

SPEAKER_00 26:17

The easiest way is through my website, randyyman.com, and that's all run together, R-A-N-D-Y-L-Y-M-A-N. Through there, they can uh get access to the book and the workbooks, they can get some free offers, they can connect with my social media. Primarily, I'm on um Instagram and LinkedIn and other platforms as well. But through my website, they can get in touch with me and send me a message if they'd like as well.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Excellent. Right now, I've enjoyed this conversation, no doubt about it. I know we could talk even more and more. And look, you got another book in the plans too, outside of the workbook? You're working on another one?

SPEAKER_00 26:50

I have two fiction books. One of them is finished with a final editor, and the other one is written first draft. And they are very interesting story that I've written that will be released hopefully later this year, if not early next year.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Okay. I'll I'll hold you to that absolutely. But we'll make sure that folks got a link to your website so they can uh learn more about you and connect

Life Was Meant To Be Beautiful

SPEAKER_01 27:09

with you. Hey, I want to finish you with the last question, uh last question, but it's always the last question I use with all of my first-time guests as well. I'm gonna give you a billboard. Put it out there in Arizona wherever you want to, or you're right on the highway. I don't know what it is, the highway that runs through Sedonia. I forget. I mean, what is it that kind of goes?

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Oh, 89A.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

89. What is the message you're gonna put on that billboard and why do you put that message on that?

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Life was meant to be beautiful. The book, The Third Element, explains it and makes it easy.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Randy, I'm sure that the listeners of the Uncommon Leader Podcast are gonna find value in the words that you shared today and in your book. I encourage folks to get out there and get a copy of it and take the time to go through it. That three-legged stool picture is perfect. We've got to have that knowledge side, we've got to have that action side, but we've also got to have those emotions there for us to create that third element to help us achieve what we want to achieve both in business and in life. Thank you so much for adding value to the listeners today. I wish you the best in the future.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

You're welcome, John. Thanks for having me on. This is wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Hey, common leaders, great conversation with Randy right there. I know that you heard something that was valuable to you. I love the illustration of that three-legged stool. You know, ultimately the knowledge side, the action side, mind and body, and then the third leg of that stool being the emotional side and being able to control our emotions by being aware uh of who we are in that space as well. So I love that picture. You probably heard something in there that you really enjoyed. If you did, here's what I want you to do. I want you to share it with someone who needs to hear it. I also want you to go out there and give us a five star rating on the podcast if you enjoyed it. That's how we get in the hands of many other leaders. Until next time, go and grow champions.