The Ode To Joy Podcast
Welcome to "The Ode to Joy Podcast," a thought-provoking and uplifting show dedicated to exploring the transformative power of creativity, self-expression, and the pursuit of joy. Join us as we embark on a journey to discover the hidden depths of the human spirit and the boundless capacity for personal growth and fulfillment.
In each episode, we dive deep into the stories of remarkable individuals who have embraced their internal muse or genius. Through their trials and triumphs, we explore the obstacles they faced in nurturing their muse and the strategies they employed to share their personal genius with the world.
We believe that every person possesses a unique wellspring of creativity, waiting to be tapped into. Our guests share their firsthand experiences, guiding listeners through their own creative journeys, and providing invaluable insights and inspiration along the way.
From artists to entrepreneurs, writers to musicians, and thinkers to dreamers, our diverse range of guests offers a kaleidoscope of perspectives on embracing one's passions and cultivating a life of purpose. We delve into the pivotal moments that sparked their creative awakening, the challenges they encountered, and the profound transformations that occurred when they wholeheartedly embraced their authentic selves.
"The Ode to Joy Podcast" celebrates the joy of self-expression and the extraordinary beauty that unfolds when we dare to follow our creative impulses. Through engaging conversations, we explore the importance of cultivating resilience, overcoming self-doubt, and persisting in the face of adversity.
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The Ode To Joy Podcast
Exploring Mediumship and Spirit Communication with Claudia Kubata, the Death Faerie
What if you could reach across the threshold of the physical world and connect with the spirit realm? That's the intriguing journey we embark on in our latest conversation with Claudia Kubata, the Death Faerie herself, where we explore the fascinating realms of spirituality, mediumship, and communication with spirits. We tackle the uncomfortable, yet essential aspects of our roles as death doulas and shed light on the hope, love, and excitement we find in this unique interaction with the deceased.
In the episode, Claudia takes us through her personal journey of embracing mediumship, the encounters she's had with spirits, and the process of validating the authenticity of these experiences. Delving into the often misunderstood concept of modern-day witchcraft, we debunk the stigma associated with it and stress the importance of authenticity in this realm. Furthermore, we traverse the intriguing subject of spirits attaching themselves to humans and discuss ways to set protective boundaries.
Our chat doesn't stop there. We share insights on how to open oneself up to spirit communication, discussing various psychic senses and how they manifest in interactions with spirits, encouraging listeners to explore spirit communication in their own unique ways. Claudia also gives us a sneak peek into her upcoming workbook, loaded with spirit play activities, to tap into psychic abilities with a sense of wonder and fun. Join us on this spiritually uplifting journey and discover how you can connect with the other side.
About Claudia:
Meet Claudia, known as The Death Faerie, your guide to the Other Side. Claudia has been a Psychic Medium all her life, forging connections with Spirits since as far back as she can remember. Her journey into understanding and harnessing this gift began in the early 2000s when she delved into energy work and honed her Psychic abilities.
What sets Claudia apart is her ability to Trance Channel and her training as an Evidential Medium. When she connects with the Spirit realm, she becomes a conduit for their energy, creating sessions that often feel like a healing embrace.
Her mission? To assist others in connecting with Spirit, nurturing and fortifying their own Psychic capabilities. Claudia is not only a seasoned Psychic Medium but also a trained Death Doula affiliated with Going with Grace, proudly contributing to the Death Positive Movement.
Embracing the inevitability of mortality, Claudia encourages everyone to live their best lives while planning for a peaceful transition. After all, as she says, "Eventually, we will all die. So let's live our best life and plan for a good death."
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Welcome to the Ode to Joy podcast, a show where we talk about joy how do we cultivate it, how do we maintain it and what are the things that get in the way. I'm your host, shamanic Death Dula and comedian Elena Box, and we are talking all about the intermuse or genius, this week with fellow death worker, the death fairy, claudia Cubata. I hope you enjoy the show. Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to the Ode to Joy podcast. It is my sincere pleasure today to invite on my friend, claudia, also known as the Death Fairy. Welcome, claudia.
Speaker 2:Hi, thank you for having me. It's such a pleasure and I'm very, very honored to be here. I don't know how else to say it.
Speaker 1:You're here and just for our listener, by the way, she is recording her audio on the tiniest little microphone you've ever seen in your life. It's like a little hamster microphone and I'm absolutely obsessed. So thank you for being here and bringing your little microphone, and can you just let our listener know where in the world are you joining us from?
Speaker 2:I'm from Los Angeles but the suburbs, so it's a very nice happy place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with good weather, with good weather. I used to live in Topanga, in the mountains outside of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2:That's beautiful. Yeah, I'm by the mountains too.
Speaker 1:The mountains are the best the mountains are like dragons. Oh my God, major, major wisdom in those mountains.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's like a whole other conversation. Let's talk about that. We got to get into the topic of the day, the topic du jour. Dear listener, I'm so excited to have Claudia on here today and just before we hopped on the call, we invited in the ancestors and she and I both felt this like huge rush of all of them being like okay, we're here. You rang, like let's talk. So a little bit about Claudia, aka the Death Fairy. She is a fellow death doula and she's also a medium, and the way that she said it, as we were just chatting before the call, she's like I talked to dead people and I'm like wonderful, yes, and I just love it and I love that. At first you said you know, I know maybe you use the word vulgar, but I don't know exactly how you said it Like, oh, I'm a little bit vulgar about it, but I love that, and so I just wonder if you could sort of unpack that for me of how you approach your work and in that kind of framework of the mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, of course, I do believe that we have a energy body, a soul, if you want to say that. And so when we die, it's just the physical body that dies here on the physical plane, and our energy body can go to the astral realm or the spirit world or whatever, the emotional realm. And so, seeing that and me talking to so many dead people all the time, I just I have so much hope and love and excitement for the other side, and that's what I'm trying to spread. I'm like, no, they're here because they've always been here, you know just like we're always going to be. We can swap bodies, but our essence will stay the same.
Speaker 2:And it's so beautiful when you see it like that and it's so much fun. It's like we're here on this plane to indulge in physical things that the spirit body cannot do without a physical body. It's very fairy-like energy, and so let's be human fairies, let's enjoy drinks and food and each other's company and each other's love and physical touch and all these things that you need a body, right, did I answer?
Speaker 1:that question 100% yeah.
Speaker 2:I want an agenda.
Speaker 1:It's so good, it's wonderful, well, tangent away. This is. You know, this is me asking you all of the questions, so go for it. I absolutely love that, and those are things that I really like to remind myself of, especially in moments of challenge is just the ultimate gift that I have in just merely my ability to enjoy, you know, a beautiful warm cup of tea or coffee, or you know it's soup season, so I'm really having a lot of these like ancestral soups and just feeling so blessed to be able to have a human experience as a soul.
Speaker 1:So I'm really glad that you named that, yeah, and I love all of the work that you do, which we're going to get into more today, because I think you really sort of pop the pop the lid off a lot of these, I think, misconceptions that people often have about talking to spirits, and I think many people sort of view it in this way of like, oh, that's, you know, that's woo, woo stuff.
Speaker 1:Are you crazy? Like you can't talk to dead. People are like, oh, isn't that nice, you thought you were talking to your dead grandfather and it's like it can be very how do I say it like alienating, I think, when you begin to have these kinds of experiences, because I'm really curious. For you. That's why I want to have this conversation, but at least for me, it was like when, when my gifts first began, it freaked me out, and I'm so glad that I've received the tools that I needed to be able to navigate this kind of world, and I think it's something that I think all people have access to if they're open to receiving it and if it's something that they want to receive. So I'm curious to hear your perspective on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I feel like we are what we're taught. And if we're taught that spirit is something, that's scary. Or you can only talk to a certain kind of spirit, like, okay, jesus, spirit is okay, but you can't directly talk to him, you got to go through a priest. Or like, yeah, angels are fine, but they only protect you. You know, I'm Catholic. I was well, I was raised Catholic, so I was like, okay, so angels are cool, demons are bad. Jesus maybe Mother Mary is just crying for me in the corner over there, but holding compassion. You know like it's like so labeled.
Speaker 2:And if we talk to our ancestors, like our grandmother's grandmother, they were talking to their people all the time. There was no death. They're like stars in the sky, they're energies that's always around. They would probably say something like oh, my gosh, grandmother wouldn't appreciate that right now, you know things like that, like making them very real, because why are we killing off our people? I don't understand that they're still here. I mean, granted, they don't have a physical body, but they are here. We don't have to kill them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my gosh, of course, I just got full body chills. I love how you said that it's 100%. Where the where I find many people sort of feel this sense of disconnect and I often feel that, if anything, my ancestors are even closer to me now than they were in life. And I was talking about this with my partner the other day where I was. You know, he never met my father, but I'm like, yeah, well, you know my dad, like he lives within me, like you know him because he's around me at all times, Like he is in me at all times. And so, in that way, my partner was like, yeah, but I never met him, like I don't know him, and I was like, no, but you know him, like you know him, and like what a gift that is.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, it's there, they're all around us at all times, if we, if we but give ourselves the opportunity to see that. So I want to gear us towards the topic the topic to Jor, which really is all of your work, but it's but it's about your individuality, and so I want to talk about your internal muse, your inner genius, which, in this case, I really believe is is your work, and how you're helping people on this earth. And so I'm really curious for you when did these gifts, this awareness, first turn on for you, and what was that experience like for you when you really sort of acknowledged this, I think ability that you have?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I've always talked to dead people without realizing I was doing it. They were angels or they were just, you know, spirit energies that are normal to have. And when I realized that what I was doing was not normal, you know, then I just kind of shut it off or I stopped thinking about it. But then when I would get into weird experiences or go into places, like I knew this place was haunted, I knew that that person was not a good person to be with. You know, my intuition has always been spot on, even when I turned off the gifts. And it wasn't until, like, I started actively going back into spirituality because I had a, what do you call it? I was living in Japan and I had a exorcism. That's what it's called, because over there they believe that spirits or I guess, ghosts can cling on to your body and can cause you harm. So they exercise the ghosts and I felt that and I was like oh shit, sorry, oh, I cut.
Speaker 1:You can curse, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Yay. So I was like, oh my God. And once I felt that, then it kind of all came back to me, all the experiences I've always felt of this being haunted, somebody pulling on my skirt, me telling people you know, there's a ghost there, it's real. And then I started actively meditating. Then I started actively taking classes and I felt it all just align so quickly. Being a medium went from like a class to like just talking to them regularly, very easily. Yeah, and you know it took.
Speaker 2:I was in an abusive relationship and it took one of my mentors at the time to say, okay, so you work full time, then you come home, then you make food for the kids and where's your time? Where's your time for yourself? And that's when I was like it's time to do me and that was what. I don't know how many years ago that was, but yeah, that was enough for me to start actively trusting myself. And then, when I started trusting myself, that's when it really made sense. So all these experiences are my valid experiences. And then I started, you know, really being able to like actively talk to them and get information from them and get valid information from them. That makes sense because I trusted myself and I trust it was coming through.
Speaker 2:I'm an evidential medium so I try to get evidence of the spirits come through first and that way I can say, oh okay, so your grandfather looks like this. He's showing me this memory and like yesterday from my friend I saw that she was giving her grandpa a little flower and like at a park, and I'm like, oh, so you were the little girl who was like picking flowers, the little daisies from the ground and giving it to grandpa. She's like, yeah, yeah, I would, I would do that. So like little specific things like that that I wouldn't know. I mean, I talked to so many grandpas and aunties, and you know even young people who have passed on, that I try to connect with those core memories and then I go into the message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what's so amazing with this work, too, is that there's really no way for you to know these things. So I'll be in sessions with people and I'll get these messages, I'll get these visions from sometimes it's very specific from a certain ancestor, sometimes it's like an energy where it's not specifically who it is, but then I'll say it to my client and they're like that's crazy. It is that it's so specific that, when it happens, I just come out of these sessions feeling so thankful and grateful, I think, because it gives people a lot of peace and a lot of, I think, recognition as well. So, yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. So I have so many questions now. I think I'm curious, though when you made that decision for yourself, when you had that moment when you realized like I need to do this for myself, was there any fear that you faced in embracing these gifts? Specifically, I'm curious were you ever concerned for your mental health, your mental sanity, in diving into this work at all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I was not. I was always open to the others. Like I said, even when I stopped contacting them, I was Lydia from Beetlejuice. I knew that they were there. I was never thinking I was crazy and I'm like, yeah, ghosts are very normal, spirits are very normal. That's just always been my thought. What I did worry about was like what if I get the information wrong? What if I say and it does happen sometimes, sometimes it'll be like I have this man coming in for you. He looks like this, sounds like this, telling me this. It'll be like I don't know who that is. He'll be like fuck. I'm like no, but then I realized you have to stare me so wrong.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:But sometimes we don't know who the dead person coming through is, which it could be like someone that you don't even really remember coming through for you to say something, so I understand that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is tough. It is tough when you have somebody come through and there'll be a certain energy to them, but if it's not super clear what the relationship is, it's like you have to practice this discern At least for me. I have to practice discernment To be like okay, so I'm getting this Is there. I always sort of have to do this check-in of is this something that's going to be useful to the person to know, or is there another way that I can work with this energy? Just in the work that I do with people, it's nice in that way that I can be like okay, so we can translate this message in a different way. But yeah, I know how that is, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why I never do readings. If I'm buzzed or if I'm super caffeinated or like every time I know I have readings, I like try to be as clean as possible Because I can do it when I'm under any sort of influence, like caffeine or alcohol, but that's not gonna help me, that's not gonna help the other person, and I know that people are coming to me because they need to connect somebody that they loved and that is so important for me. I mean, honestly, if you see all the work I do on Instagram, it's all free. I'm not saying, oh, take my class and I will give you these three secrets. No, I'm like, I'm telling you everything that I know because I feel like the more we open up the spirit, the happier we will be, and I don't think that we should charge for that. Come to me for, like, a direct reading, cool, please do, but you can do this on your own. Everyone can do this.
Speaker 1:And I love that you share that, and I love that, dear listener, if you're not already, go to Instagram, follow her immediately, because what you share is so deep, like it's not fluff. What you're giving is actual, real education about how people can begin to open themselves up to this work, but it's also so like, lighthearted and beautiful and fun, and I love that perspective, because I think oftentimes people can get really freaked out by this kind of work. But the fact that you're so, I don't wanna say like nonchalant, but you're like, yeah, they're literally everywhere. It's like, yeah, they are Duh, duh, duh, but it's something that would be like there's a ghost in my room now. That's bad. It's like, it's not bad, it's not necessarily bad, like so I'm. So I love that you offer that. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Sorry, no, I didn't wanna interrupt it. Something that we don't realize is that they come in all the time. They just like what's in here, what's over there. And if you were a ghost, you'd be doing the same thing too. I would. I'd be totally peeping in on people. It'd be so fun For sure, until you realize that that's not your life fulfillment. Like you wanna go to the others, you wanna go to the spirit world, but for a little moment it's fun being a ghost going into people's houses, and so our houses are always going to be haunted. Unless you set really strict protection which most of us don't really do that You're always gonna have a friend that'll go say it's like what's in here? Yeah, peek-a-boo.
Speaker 1:Just coming in, just coming in and say hi, so you can peek him out. So you can peek him out, right, well, that's, the thing too is that you can kick them out. So here's the question that I have for you is, in this process of, I mean, you said you've always had this connection to them. So was there times in your life where, or how do I say like, how did you learn how to practice that kind of discernment of when to be like, okay, you're just passing through, almost like a dust bunny or something like this, just like, okay, you're passing through with no problem? And then other times when you're like, yeah, but this is kind of like, how do you practice that discernment? Well, at what point do I have to sort of get involved?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, now that I'm a lot wiser than I was. See, that's not, that was my problem. I've always been open to the other side, so I've been this open door the entire time. So I've got good spirits and bad spirits coming in. Hence the reason I needed to get something like a exorcism done right, which, by the way, you can do by yourself, yes. So, that being said, I started caring about my energy. So I wanted to feel good. And if I did not feel good, why was that? Was it my energy? Wasn't it an external energy? Do I have a little hitchhiking ghost on me? And that's when I started realizing when I feel different, then I start analyzing myself, just kind of do a little energy scan and that's help For the most part.
Speaker 2:When you start vibing really high and start like engaging with your guy, they act as related bouncers, so they kind of keep most of the unwanted spirits away. But you'll go into a place that's like heavily I mean doctor's offices are always super crazy, lots of energy there dentists, movie theaters, airplanes, anywhere with a lot of people, your work environment it's gonna be super heavy Wherever there's heavy energy you're walking around there. So, unless you have your boundaries up, your guards up, your spirit guides protecting you. Having an attachment is actually very common and not really a big deal. It's when you have an attachment and you let that attachment feed off of you so much that you get so depressed that you just wanna drink and do drugs. That's when it becomes a big deal. So we wanna avoid that. We wanna stay hopeful for our own life. We wanna understand that we're not perfect and things can happen. It happens. Cleanse your body, cleanse your energy body and they'll go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like to say this kind of work is really just spiritual, energetic hygiene. Oh yeah, and it's something that I think is so important, no matter, really, every single person, I think, would benefit from doing a sort of basic spiritual hygiene, even if you don't feel necessarily equipped to be able to discern like, okay, is this a spirit, what is this? But just to do a really simple energetic cleansing every day, or you can find a way to sort of work it into your life because, like you said, it's like if you're not taking a moment to kind of pause, check in, notice how energy is moving through your body and you're continuing to move through every single day and just accumulating more and more and more and walking through these spaces where, no matter really where you are, you're going to be in contact with these types of environments, like, if you're not kind of washing it off, at the end of the day it's gonna build up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you take showers every day, which I hope you do, just imagine when that water is cleansing you, your spirit energy is also cleansing you, so you can just close your eyes and visualize the water being like this beautiful iridescent light washing all the crap off of you. Anything that's not yours, you can just send it back, and if you do that daily, you're pretty much set.
Speaker 1:You're good to go. Yeah, so these are practical tools, practical things that you can do every single day to keep you, like, in alignment. So I'm curious for you in the process of honing your gifts, of cultivating your gifts, you mentioned having the ability to turn them off when you need to, and so I'm really curious what circumstances do you turn them off in? And then also, what are your tools to turn them off? And maybe, in the same way, how do you turn them on?
Speaker 2:Well, I believe it's all with your intention and that's how I work. So I just tell myself, and I with conviction okay, right now I am open and I literally will open up to the spirit world. I will open out to the spirit world, I should say, and otherwise, unless I make that intention to open to the spirit world, I am closed. And I just think of it as like I'm a business. And if I'm not open for business, no one has any permission to come in. And so when I go about my day-to-day life, I'm not looking for ghosts, I'm actually having fun. I wanna get that latte, I wanna get that croissant and have a good quiet time, I wanna read a book. Like. I don't wanna be worried about ghosts all the time.
Speaker 2:If you're out there thinking that there's always going to be someone to harm you, there will be. So I love life, I love having a good time and I love connecting people to spirit. So I set a time and place and every time I connect to spirit I always say a prayer. I say I'm a clear and present channel of pure source energy for the good of all, and that's it. I will it. So, unless you're aligning with this energy, you're not welcome, I'm sorry. So I'm also not, captain Sablehold. I'm not gonna go to a haunted house and be like oh you poor spirit, let me cross you over. No, that's your choice spirit. If you wanna go, good, I will help you, but I'm not gonna just force spirits out. That's something they must come to terms with for themselves.
Speaker 1:Mm, mm. That's an interesting perspective, I think. Definitely, my perspective is, for the most part, it's sort of like you said you're a business, right? So when I go into spaces and I'm like, oh, I feel well, here's the thing it's like, for my perspective is, for the most part, I'm generally turned off. Like you said, I want to go through my life. I don't constantly want to be feeling this, but there's certain moments where it's just really overwhelming and so in those moments I have to choose.
Speaker 1:Well, it's not really as a business, as me, as a human, like this isn't something that I really want to help out with in this situation, although I'm curious from your perspective, you know. Are there times where it perhaps is appropriate for someone to make that choice to help a spirit crossover? I'm only I'm asking because I think, from my perspective, in my work as a shamanic practitioner, that is something that we work with. But also sometimes, when there is a spirit or sort of entity that's attached to someone, that that is some it's psychopomp work. So, as you, as you, as you know, is it's something that's necessary in those situations. So, yeah, I guess I'm just really curious for you, like do you, do you ever practice these types of things Like is there ever a time, from your perspective, where it's necessary? Or yeah, what's your take on that?
Speaker 2:I think I did it really harshly. If you have a spirit of, let's say, a child or someone who is a bit naive and is not seeing why they're there maybe they're very confused you can remind them that they have loving guides on the other side, like for children, like your mother's. Already on the other side she's waiting for you. Go to her, you know, go to the light. That's a beautiful way to help them, to encourage them to cross over. But that's only if you know, let's say, someone's in your home or in a space where you know you need to use or reside in your work environment. Maybe like, please, I can't help you, but they can. Your spirit guides can and they're here for you. Are you seeing them? Sometimes they don't even see them. So in that sense, I would be like, please, you know, see all the help you have around you. I as a human right now cannot help you, but they can.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's huge. I love that because I think it's something that's really useful in those types of moments where you're like I don't have the time or the interest or the energy to engage with this at this moment, but you want to be able to give them that kind of loving compassion and to even just give them that sort of. What comes to mind is it's almost like a prayer, like that could be sent out to them to help them to understand that they have guides on the other side waiting for them. So it's interesting because the other day I had this experience. I walked into a TJ Maxx bathroom and I was like, oh, all right. I was like, okay, we got somebody's here, and it was in this moment. I was like I'm in the middle of trying on my like cool new pants. I was like I literally almost had this moment where I was like maybe I should talk to a manager.
Speaker 2:Excuse me.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, did you know that your bathroom's hot?
Speaker 2:That's so funny.
Speaker 1:It's too good. Obviously I didn't, because I would have been like man, we're going to need to ask you to leave the store, but so I didn't. But I think in that moment perhaps I'll have to go back there and to just give them a little, you know, kind of a wink and a little nudge in that sense, but not to have to do the full, the full sort of work behind doing something like that. But I think that's really useful. Also is, yeah, if it's, if it's, if it's something that's affecting your home or your work environment or a place that you are in often, then then yes, it's something that is definitely worth being addressed for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and calling your guides, calling their guides say hey, you know, little ghost boy over here really needs you right now. Please come for him, Show us the light, make the light somewhere and then guide him. Everyone can help guide him, but that's not as common as we may seem, I don't know. I feel like for the most part, they are here because they want to be here and it's usually clinging on to humanity. And then that's when they latch onto us to feel humanity through us which I feel is not fair for us, Because you know, we don't realize that we have an attachment then they drain us, they drain us energetically. Like you know, we do things for them, we take them to the movies, we drink a beer for them. Oh, he wants another beer. Okay, another beer and another beer, and then it becomes a parasit again, in my opinion, no, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1:The phrase that's coming to mind is like feeding the hungry ghost.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:You know, and yeah, especially there's. There's definitely, you know, when you go into places where alcohol has been consumed for a long time and perhaps in ways that were that could be really seen as abuse of. Abuse of the substance is that there's like this energy around that space. That's not every bar, you know, but there's definitely somewhere. I'm like dang, I'd really love to bring some sage in here. I'd really love to like smoke this place out. You know, don't mind me, don't mind me. I personally love the housekeeping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love the smell of sage, so I would be so down for that. Can you imagine a sage bar A?
Speaker 1:sage bar. We love it. Yes, it's just constantly being cleansed. Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Sage with cover.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we love that. It's the business of the future. I see that. I see that because I think not all alcohol is necessarily bad. I think it's just the intention that it is consumed with, and I think there's opportunities where it can be a really beautiful medicine in a way to cultivate community and conversation and to really raise the vibration, yeah, yeah. So there's I'm thinking of mead specifically in this moment. I'm really into mead because it's got.
Speaker 2:It's like that energy of the bees buzzing, which is that like yeah, it makes me think of that, like old Norse, the Vikings making their mead, and that energy, you know that energy of the wild seer, the woman mystic who was so appreciated in that time, really calls to me. I must have had like a past life or several in that time being like in that environment. When he said mead, I'm like yes, and then bring out the drums.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then bring out the drums. Yeah, 100%, like there's a reason why I think humans have been drawn to this, to these types of you know medicines, in a way is because it was. It was a way for us to tap into, I mean it's, it's a mind altering substance. So yeah, I see that for you to the CRS out in the woods somewhere around a fire.
Speaker 2:That's my future.
Speaker 1:That's your future. I see it for you. It's coming. My gosh, okay, so I have. I have some other questions for you. So well, I mean, I guess this is really attached to the CRS. I'm just really really curious for you because, being someone who does what you do, I'm always, I'm always curious about how other women navigate, being what I think of as a which quote, unquote, which medicine woman, however way you want to describe it medium, right, you have these abilities that I think, yeah, really remind, really really are in tune with that, with in that, in that line of that lineage you could say and how do you navigate? Sort of this modern day witch hunt that I think many of us face? Have you faced any of that? Have you faced any sort of like imposter syndrome or people trying to literally take you down in your process of sharing your work with the world?
Speaker 2:Such a beautiful question and so aligned with something I just went through. So I knew that that happened. For this reason, I had a past life experience of regression recently. I like to do them sometimes, just going to a past life and see what happened. And there was this one time when I was stoned to death for being somebody who knew how to work with herbs and like essentially a witch right, that's what they called me and it was such a painful memory. And then that made me realize, because I always call myself a fairy no, I'm not a witch, I'm a fairy Duh. Look at me, a witch with a.
Speaker 2:And then I had the assumption that a witch was somebody, which is awful. Like I thought no, you know, my voice sounds like a little kid, my energy is out of a child as well, like I felt like I don't fit into the witch vibe. So I always felt like I was an outsider in a witchy space. And seeing that memory, that past life, really made me realize. And then other Like I have those Norse past lives. I work with runes and I work with Olims, which is the British version or the English version of kind of runes, old ancient divination tools and tarot and I realized, okay, yeah, I'm doing all the witchy things, denying the name witch because of horrible ideas that I have of what it means to be a witch. And it sucks because Even now, it feels like we're using witch in a very specific way, unless you're wearing dark clothes and dark lipstick and being all like spooky and mystical.
Speaker 2:Like I never really wear black, I always wear pink colors and so I felt kind of outcasted in my group of people and so saying that, yeah, I always felt like I didn't belong in my side in my group. But then now I'm realizing that we're going into this space of transformation where we can choose what our energy is and we stop caring what other people thought about us. So from others I've never gotten witch, you know. I've always gotten weirdo or strange. You know it's weird talking to people. I get it, but and I mean people love talking about it I get so many questions. I was a flight attendant. I guess I still am a flight attendant and like every time I'm like, oh, yeah, there's someone behind you or something like that. Then they're like, wow, and they want to ask so many questions. So I'm weird but I'm entertaining.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will show you a good time yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think where I want to get with this is that who cares? Who cares if we fit in or not? I feel like it's really important to be authentic to how we feel. And and it's all the same shit, you are a witch, you're a fairy, you're a gnome, you're a warlock, you're a regular person working at Trader Joe's because it makes you happy. Whatever right, it's all the same. If you align with spiritual energy, I feel like that's enough, yeah with your spirit right, and that's spiritual energy.
Speaker 2:I hate the word spiritual. If you're aligned with your highest self cool, You're in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not that complicated. I mean, it's so hard, when it comes to language, to describe these things because I find, as you said is it, it can become or feel as if certain people, ideas, energies are being excluded, and that's not really the case it's. It's so challenging to sort of synthesize this kind of work into words because so much of it is, I believe, really exists outside of language. So, yeah, I just love that perspective too, where you're like who cares, like it's all good, and I just love that you're carrying this light in a way that feels so refreshing. Thank you, because it's so unique, I think, because you bring this sense of levity to this kind of work which, at least I have found, can sometimes be for understandable reasons, but sort of tinged with so much heaviness, I think, and I think it's really wonderful to see. Thank you.
Speaker 2:I feel like spirit is very playful, it's very emotional, and so I am not serious. I want to have a good time. I want to bring in the joy that I feel. I'm very inspired by the 80s and the 90s because that's where I grew up. I'm very inspired by video games, because that's what I love as a kid, and by cartoons and just honestly, living your best life because we have it, and you know this as a death worker too. Right, we have this life and every day we we have less of it.
Speaker 2:So why not enjoy every second of this beautiful life that we have and not go complain to other people about shit, Like why am I going to waste my time saying like, oh, you know, I can't believe they gave me this assignment. I'd rather just go to some cafe and get like the fattiest latte ever and just be like, yeah, I want to enjoy this moment and then I'll go back to the crappy environment. But at least I'll go back with a latte in my belly and a different perspective and I can be like man, I use my time drinking something good. What did you do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Yeah, and enjoy the good food too. I was talking about this with my mom today. We're getting ready for Thanksgiving and you know I buy this really delicious butter it's like grass fed, you know, wonderful from these cows in Ireland. And so we're doing this food shopping, yeah, and she's like, oh, your special butter is on sale. And I'm like let's stock up. And she's like, oh, but she's like, oh, but I should probably buy this, like you know, the no salt, like less fat, like she buys this butter that is so pale. I'm like, mom, my hope for you in life is that you embrace the full fat, the full cream of this, like butter. My new motto in life is life is too short to eat bad butter.
Speaker 2:I love that. That is so beautiful and you used to live in Paris, right? I think I heard from the podcast Paris, you know good butter.
Speaker 1:I've got a bit, a little bit, all over, I mean yeah, you know good butter. Like I know good butter. I mean it's a food group in and of itself in the grocery store.
Speaker 2:Here here. Well, think of this. Milk was so important to people. Milk has always been important to people. I love milk and me too. I really appreciate this conversation because we, especially here in LA, we think that like, oh no, I'm going to get fat and yeah, with that mentality, we'll get fat. You can eat like a skinny latte and still get fat, because you're thinking it's going to make you fat and our body will process it like, oh yes, this is going to add on more calories or whatever it does. So I I'm not saying indulge in things that are bad for your body, but when you do things that feel good for you, you don't need that much of them and you're fulfilled rather than abandoned. Society where we take things like alcohol when we feel crappy and we drink and drink, and drink and drink until we want to puke, rather than if you're feeling really good and you want to go out with your friends and you have a glass, like it's such a different vibration, yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:It's all about. It's again, it's that intention, it's that mentality shift of like, what is the information that I want to bring into my body and what? What is the sensation that I'm seeking in this moment? And and how can I sort of achieve that and then savor it like, really, really savor it, Because when you eat that full fat, like that croissant, or that, I get whatever that's cut, or the pound chocolate, you know, and it's just like the most like, get yourself the most high quality, delicious things in life, Because if you have them my belief isn't, yeah, you're probably not going to want to eat a whole bucket full of them, because one is so beautiful and and it brings us back to sort of like the beginning of the conversation, which is really just what a gift it is to be humans, in, you know, souls and bodies at this time, that we get to have these meaningful experiences of taste all of the senses sight, sound, music, you know, smell.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's a reason why fairies and angels are quote jealous of us is because we get these physical sensations right. And if you've ever seen I forgot what movie it was is a dogma where, like the angels don't even have reproductive parts, they're like we're, we're empty down there, so they can't even have sex. So that's why I'm saying you're human, you can do all these things that humans can do and enjoy it. And then, when you go on to your spirit life, you can appreciate everything you did and then see what else you want to do for your next life.
Speaker 1:You know it's it's a very beautiful explorative time to be dead on the other side or to be human. I would both. Both, I think, are pretty good yeah it's a cycle.
Speaker 2:It's the cycle of life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the cycle of. There's so many avenues that I want to go down with you. Yeah, but I have, you know, I do want to try to wrap up the conversation. So I have two questions. So the first is really just practically, for someone who is wanting to open themselves up to what I'm going to use the word as a term of spirit communication, what are some ways that you would recommend to do it and what are some ways that they might expect to experience spirits, for example, will they see them, will they smell them, will they hear them? I know there's many different sort of psychic senses and so what's your? Yeah, what are your? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:Okay, if you're first going to connect and you're scared of connecting, I would say ask one of your ancestors to come through for you, because they're on your side already, to say hey, great, great grandma, I never met, but I know you're in my family. Please come through and guide me through. That's one, all you need to know. You could ask other spirit guides If you know the spirit guide that you work with already, that's great too, but I feel like we're so scared of spirit right now. It's, I mean, just in general. It's good to have somebody that's in your family to guide you. And then, as for how you're going to experience it, it's going to be very unique to everybody. So you'll start to understand it when you start to put in the psychic senses. So just like we have physical senses, we have the psychic versions. So maybe you'll feel it like on your body the, the goose pimples I can never say that word correct Goosebumps, goosebumps.
Speaker 1:Goosebumps are how they say it in England. So yeah, goose pimples. I used to live in England, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:There you go. I keep saying goose pimples, all right. So those little bumps on your arm, the maybe subtle like tingles that you get on your body, that's a physical sensation. Then there's a gut roll sensation, the internal sensation, the like, oh, no, something's wrong or oh, this feels good, right, you feel it inside of your body, not on the, you know, not on your skin, but you feel it in you, your gut feeling. Then there's like seeing things. Oh, I totally saw something. I saw a shadow person. I saw something move across the room. I saw an orb or observe huge. I saw little lights like twinkling. You know, all of these are very good ways of seeing.
Speaker 2:And in meditation, like, if you can close your eyes and actually see something in your meditation, that's counted as seeing. Then there's hearing. I heard something. A song is talking to me. You know, you turn on the radio and then the banjo song comes on like, oh, we're halfway there. And you're like, yes, I am halfway there and it just speaks to you. That is your audio, what is called your audience, and let's see what else is there. I'm missing one Scent.
Speaker 2:Smelling things is a huge one If you smell cigarettes, if you smell perfume, if you smell roses when you're just alone by yourself, suddenly that's spirit coming through. I noticed it's usually cigarettes. Someone's like special scent or flowers. Those are huge ones. And tasting things. You can taste things in your mouth. You can taste sweetness, you can taste bitterness, you know, and everyone has one or more of these, and what you do is you just strengthen them once you know which is your psychic sense. But you can experience any of these sensations and validate. Every time you get one validated, write it down. That way when you feel crazy, you can go back to your book of validation to be like nope, I have all of these experiences and if I don't trust myself, no one's going to trust me. You have to trust yourself. You do, because if you think you're crazy, so will everyone else, and that's what sucks. But you got to have your own back first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it, it's so good. If you think you're crazy, everyone will too.
Speaker 2:It's dribble.
Speaker 1:It's so good, it's absolutely so good, okay. So final question oh, my God so and it might be a big, big question for you. I don't know. You can feel free to take it however way, wherever you want to go. But so what are your top ways to stay in alignment with your inner muse, your inner gift, these gifts that you have? What are your top tools, techniques? If you ever feel yourself getting off track or getting off path, how do you bring yourself back to center, to, like, nurture and nourish it and feed it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ground myself, and that can be done again. Everyone's going to do it differently. So, whatever makes you come to present time, that's grounding. Okay, if that's walking, if that's doing yoga, if that's running your hands under cold water, if that's drinking cold water, if you can just connect and say, okay, I'm going to ground myself, wash your hands, feel what the water feels like on your hands, and just say, okay, I'm right here, right now. You got to ground yourself. We aren't grounded. We're always thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking about what we could have done, thinking about what we should do, and then we're missing all the signs that are already in front of us. So you got to ground yourself and be present, whatever that means for you and that sucks, that. I can't tell you what it is, but everyone's unique and we just got to understand each other. So, explore yourself, ground. And then I always invite them in. I always invite them in. I'm just like, okay, come in, come play, show me something, let's let's see, I'm going to put my Spotify playlist on. I want you to talk to me through these songs, or I'll go outside and do like a scavenger hunt. You know, and I'm actually working on a workbook right now. That should be done very, very soon.
Speaker 2:On how you can play with spirit. It's like 30 days of spirit play and 30 activities, all child driven, because we are all children at heart. You know, I got mad libs in there, I got word searches in there. I've got all sorts of activities that you can do with spirit and it will work because you're inviting them to play with you and that's so important. Like, why are you going to be serious in such a fun place? Oh my God, it's like a play. It's like you go to like I don't want to say it, just not like you're so evil. Or you go to like not very farm or something, or Universal Studios, whatever, they're all the same right and you want to get on the roller coaster and have fun. You want to sit there and analyze everything, right, you want to have fun and be a child at heart.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it's like dipping, dipping yourself into that river of flow, of creative play and remembering that we are constantly in this divine dance and and the universe, and spirit, all that is, wants to interact and play with us, and so I love that. It's like putting a putting your fun glasses on and going out and seeing the world in that way, and I love, I'm really excited for that workbook you're putting together. I think that's really really useful Because there's so much there's always so much that's coming through, and I love that you mentioned the Spotify playlist. I find I say spirit is my DJ, like there are times where I'm just like, oh yeah, like you know, you know, just put it on shuffle.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's not Jesus. Take the whale, it's spirit. Take my playlist Like, please. Spirit, guide my playlist.
Speaker 1:And it and they do. They really are. It's so good, my gosh, yes. Was there anything else you wanted to share?
Speaker 2:Spirit is not just that people. Spirit is everything. Everything has energy. Okay, so you can totally be connecting with your coffee table right now. If you want to do so, just heads up. You know, everything has emotions and energy, so just be mindful to everyone around you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really true. It really is true and I think also to be aware that I guess like to take responsibility for our own energy and how we contribute to spaces as well, because I often think of like and listen. I understand that might feel like a big undertaking. I know we're not always able to be these walking beacons. I know sometimes things happen and they might get us down. So listen, like, don't worry if you're not. Like, I'm a beacon of light 24, seven, don't worry.
Speaker 1:Though for me it's like when I know that I have, I'm energetically strong and I can really walk through spaces and and be that beacon of light, like my vibration, my energy, I know can shift spaces that need need shifting. You know, when you walk through those dense spaces and you know, even if you don't have your sage and your crystals and all your tools around you, like, how can, how can I subtly yet powerfully shift the energetic space of places, buildings, sidewalks Yesterday I was walking literally just on a sidewalk, you know or to walk through a wooded area that perhaps has been sort of disrespected, you know to change and shift that energy. Like it's possible, it is, and I think it's important too.
Speaker 2:It is. It is really important and I feel like when you're feeling down, just try to see how you can feel better. It's you don't have to feel great, but I mean, take a nap, then you know you don't have to be in this depressive state. You can shift it if you want to.
Speaker 1:There's little things you can see, see feeling better, even if it's just a tiny bit even if it's a tiny thing, even if it's having a cup of tea, having a nap, like do what feels good. Really, just tiny little shifts, it's huge, yeah. And if you're feeling lonely, like maybe just have a conversation with your coffee table, because your coffee table has a lot to say, like there's a lot of energy there, you have me thinking about that.
Speaker 2:One time you spilled coffee at me that burned.
Speaker 1:Me nacing. You want more chocolate ice cream.
Speaker 2:It sounds silly, but you know I talk to my car all the time.
Speaker 1:Alien Queen, she knows my secrets, so yeah you are, of course, of course, and how you treat things is really, it really affects, because it's all, all matter is all vibration, it's all vibration, right, so it's, we're just manipulating the quantum field in real time at all times, and so why not? And then you go back to this idea that all inanimate objects have what they call devas, which are almost like little, like fairy spirits. They are. What do you think of them in that way?
Speaker 2:Totally. Yeah, I love devas, I mean, I love fairies, and I love that energy because it reminds me to play. They're like human. You guys are so serious, let's do something mischievous. Let's hide those keys and see how I think to define them. You know, they're always like that and I love that like not in the moment, obviously, but then I'm like right, it's cute, it's very childlike. Children do that. They'll do silly things like that to you because they want to play with you. That's all it is. They want to play. We need to play more. Yeah, we really do.
Speaker 1:I love it. It's so true, it's 100% so true. Oh, my goodness, so many, so many wonderful topics that we've dove into today. I'm like, oh, I just want to talk to you all day. I'll talk about all the things, but we do need to wrap up the conversation, dear listener. So question for you Do you have anything coming up that you want to let people know about? How can people work with you and how can people find you?
Speaker 2:Yes, so my name is the Death Fairy Fairy, spelled F-A-E-R-I-E, trying to make it into a song in my head F-A-E-R-I-E. The Death Fairy. Yes, so thedeathfairycom. Or on Instagram. I'm very active on Instagram. I try to be on TikTok, but I'm not going to lie, I get overwhelmed. My ADHD takes control. On Instagram, I'm on TikTok, so I'm on most platforms. I should say and yeah, reach out, you can book me through my website for a one-on-one reading. If you want free tips, just go to my Instagram. There's a ton of content there. I've been actively posting for years and years and years. Yes, I'm here to help.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you really are, and I'm so grateful that you're here and I'm so grateful to be a part of your community, that you're a part of my community and we're just like this global network of people here, just holding sort of like the same thread of this worldwide web. I love you.
Speaker 2:Elena, you have such a beautiful energy, so fun. You yourself are just so charming and fun and deep. So I am very again honored and so glad we can connect and so happy to have you as a spirit friend and someone in this community. Where it feels like it's so dark sometimes, that's a joy. Let's enjoy more.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes, Thank you. Oh, my goodness, Thank you. I received that and I sent it back to you and we just go, we're just sending love heart lasers.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, that's the caribers. We're little caribers Of course, gosh.
Speaker 1:I love all of their jingles too, my gosh, ok. Well, my dear listener, I know that you've enjoyed this conversation as much as I have. I know that you've been smiling just as much as I have. And, yeah, we'll wrap it up here, claudia. Thank you so much again for coming on.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is amazing.
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