The Ode To Joy Podcast
Welcome to "The Ode to Joy Podcast," a thought-provoking and uplifting show dedicated to exploring the transformative power of creativity, self-expression, and the pursuit of joy. Join us as we embark on a journey to discover the hidden depths of the human spirit and the boundless capacity for personal growth and fulfillment.
In each episode, we dive deep into the stories of remarkable individuals who have embraced their internal muse or genius. Through their trials and triumphs, we explore the obstacles they faced in nurturing their muse and the strategies they employed to share their personal genius with the world.
We believe that every person possesses a unique wellspring of creativity, waiting to be tapped into. Our guests share their firsthand experiences, guiding listeners through their own creative journeys, and providing invaluable insights and inspiration along the way.
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"The Ode to Joy Podcast" celebrates the joy of self-expression and the extraordinary beauty that unfolds when we dare to follow our creative impulses. Through engaging conversations, we explore the importance of cultivating resilience, overcoming self-doubt, and persisting in the face of adversity.
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The Ode To Joy Podcast
Embracing the Witch Within: A Journey of Self-Discovery and Healing with Chelsea Camin
Do you ever feel disconnected, 'othered', or not quite fitting into the societal norms? We've all been there. In fact, our guest today, the incredible Chelsea Camin, a past life witch, once felt the same. She took us on an incredible journey of spiritual awakening, self-discovery, and authenticity, inspiring us with her courage to break free from an oppressive education system and the societal norms that held her back from realizing her true potential.
Chelsea deftly guided us to explore the depths of our inner genius and the witch wound, navigating the complex world of imposter syndrome. She shed light on the significance of honing our unique gifts, embracing authenticity, and finding the right community. With her valuable insights into overcoming fears and fostering self-acceptance, Chelsea helped us better understand the power we all hold within ourselves and how we can utilize it to transform our lives.
Lastly, we delved into the intriguing world of past life work and its integration into daily life, with Chelsea sharing her transformative experiences with candle magic. We also discussed practical ways to protect our spiritual wellbeing in the online space and the importance of setting boundaries. Wrapping up our journey, Chelsea reflected on the intricacies of being a healer and the desire to be 'normal.' In an episode filled with wisdom and inspiration, Chelsea's story is a brilliant reminder of the joy that comes from embracing our true selves. Don't miss out on this empowering conversation!
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Welcome to the Ode to Joy podcast, a show where we talk about joy how do we cultivate it, how do we maintain it and what are the things that get in the way. I'm your host, shamanic Deathdula Alana Box, and we are talking with the past life witch, chelsea Kemen, all about her internal muse, or inner genius. I'm so excited for you to have a listen. I hope you enjoy.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome back to the Ode to Joy podcast. I'm your host, alana Box, and it is my sincere pleasure to invite my friend Chelsea Kemen to the show. Welcome, chelsea.
Speaker 3:Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2:I'm so happy to be here, yes, I'm so happy you're here as well, and I'm so happy that we were connected through the wonderful world of Instagram and social media. I know I just love everything that you share and everything that you do, so it's such a pleasure to bring you on to the show. So if you could just drop us in to where you are, let our listener know where are you joining us from today?
Speaker 3:So I am here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, but I am from New York. I'm from Long Island. You have a strong island girl. I am a strong island girl. I grew up in Garden City South and, yeah, Nassau County baby the 516, if you're familiar and by way of many events in the last few years, we found our way to Indiana, mostly for my birth of this business and to get some healing. So, yeah, it's been quite a journey, since around like 2019 or so. But, yeah, now we're here in Indiana and it's been nice. It's been a really good respite for me. They say you can't heal in the environment. You got sick. So taking a little pause from New York life and being here has been really healing and instrumental in a lot of my own personal growth. So it's been really good.
Speaker 2:Mm-mm-mm.
Speaker 3:I'm so excited to get into that with you today I know it's the topic everyone wants to hear. They're like how did you make it to Fort Wayne, Are?
Speaker 1:you there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we could get right into it. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2:We're going right into it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:I get what's I've been in. So, yes, I'm joining from Long Island, north Shore, nassau County and repping that 516 also, so it's just so nice to have a familiar voice come on to the show. Yeah, yeah, and I also get needing to. I want to say extricate oneself from the space where you were raised, because I think I've always indulged in expanding my awareness of other cultures and travel and places, because it gives good perspective. Perspective yeah, and then I come back home and I go OK. So how can I serve?
Speaker 3:Right, how can I integrate? How can I integrate what I've learned and bring it back to the community that I love? Yeah, I resonate with that. For sure, for sure, yeah, so it all started. I was always a very spiritual kid. I was that kind of child. I was mostly very bullied and things like that.
Speaker 3:So I find when you suffer from some sort of oppression in your school system, you go inward more than most kids do, right, you search for meaning, you search for understanding and you search for validation. And so it started way back when I was a kid. Really, I had to become very in tune with myself and understand why oppression happens and why other people don't speak out and all of that. So this is kind of like the basis of my heart, where I've always stood and who I am, and couple that with my upbringing, where I was raised by a Jewish mother and an Italian Catholic father and I grew up in a system where there was where I felt othered or like the outsider within my community which was quite Italian at the time and feeling that opposition within my community there and then feeling opposition within my mother's community as well. So I never felt like I fit in. So by the time I was around 10 years old, I had proclaimed that I was a witch and that I was going to always be like this. I was going to always. And I was, of course, born on Halloween. So it all, you know, it all checked out in my kid mind. I'm like, well, it was a blueprint for me. And, of course, you know then my parents being who they were, the generation, everything they're like. You're not a witch, you're crazy.
Speaker 3:So over time, I went and got a music degree. I studied the arts. I got two music education degrees. I fully stepped my feet into what it meant to be a music educator. I went to Teachers College in New York City, which is affiliated with Columbia University. I did the thing Like I went, you know, as far as I could to show that I could do this, that I could, I could win capitalism.
Speaker 3:Look at me, you know like I felt like I was very much just assimilating as much as I could and, you know, kept saying it was for the love of music and for the love of art and for the love of children and everything. But deep down I was very unhappy, and I knew this in my undergrad, that I didn't want to do this. I knew this in my master's, that I didn't want to do this. But I felt, if I kept studying and I kept believing in the core of it, which was I love the arts and I love serving children. But there was something. When you put those two together and put it in a system, I didn't want to work in that system, I didn't want to work in the education system.
Speaker 3:It felt again like another oppression to me. It felt like another thing that I had to fit in the box to and I just couldn't do it. And this is partially because I'm neurodivergent. I just and I give that, I give that to myself. You know, I know that I'm not going to assimilate as easily with other people, because I think very critically and I see, I see the lack in systems and for me it hurt more to be in those systems because I had to abide by them where I felt like it didn't align with the child's purpose, the child's spirit, the child. So it's always been like I really don't like seeing people controlled.
Speaker 3:So if all of these things are at my core and as I'm going through awakenings, I'm realizing like my true nature is to be a healer, is to be someone that connects to humanity and takes care of it. But how does this fit in our Western culture, how does this fit into our world? And the answer is it really doesn't. I'm. I'm looked at like I am such an oddball right. So over time it really was not so much like oh, I found this, but oh, I came home to it. So it was like I stepped outside myself to find parts of me that were palatable for the universe, for whomever was watching me. And as I got more and more comfortable with who I truly was, my authentic self, I started to really like peel away those layers and I realized, like as my healer self, as a regressionist, as a hypnosis, a hypnotist, as you know, as someone doing all of these healing modalities like that is my truest expression. And I still have a couple of voice students, I have to say. Still, I still do have a couple of voice students on the side, but it's because I get to now carry out my exact values and mission and beliefs through all the work that feels so good to me.
Speaker 3:So for a very long time I I had a really thriving business on the North Shore of Suffolk County. I had been really catering to everyone in, like Huntington and Lloyd Neck, and so it was in that, in those spaces, that I was, you know, creating a name for myself. I was doing really well there, but there was no way to scale. It was just me and I could feel the pressures after the pandemic. We just had a baby girl in 2019. So I had to really readjust what I was bringing to the table and what my husband was bringing to the table.
Speaker 3:And for the first couple of years, because of the pandemic, my husband was the sole caregiver and I was working. Because of how successful my business was and just the way it worked out, we didn't feel comfortable putting her in a daycare. We didn't feel comfortable with certain things that would be, you know, something where she could take home illness and we wanted to keep her safe, especially her being our first child. So through a series of all of these you know, trial, trial by fire, right it got to the point where I just couldn't resist it anymore. I got to that breaking point, that dark night, and then it just came to like a lot of things come to me in visions and then I share it with my husband and then we make it work together. But this came as a huge vision that I had to. We had to move, we had to make this decision so he could find work here.
Speaker 3:Because we're all musicians, we're musically trained, so there's sweet water here. If you're familiar with, it's pretty big like music business. It's just, it's fine. It's mostly online but like people that are like real, really in the music scene. They're like yes, I know it. So it afforded me the ability to now switch roles a little bit and also expand my spiritual business.
Speaker 3:But I was still afraid. But it got to a point where I then joined a marketing group and it was called Witch and Famous with Captolia and I joined that as a voice teacher still and I was like it was like I was just trying so hard to keep making it work and eventually I just had done several sessions in a week of regressions and healing sessions and I was like who are we kidding now? Like I can't. There is an undeniable now, like there is not. It got to the point where I had so far past that apprentice stage. I had so passed that imposter syndrome. I for real, I knew I could channel past lives. I was right there with the people I had now had hundreds of testimonials from people telling me like, oh my God, this is spot on, your work is spot on.
Speaker 3:And at what point do I keep denying myself? Because I'm afraid of how I'll be perceived. And it just got so uncomfortable for me, basically got so uncomfortable. I just couldn't shut myself off anymore. I had to share that this is what I do and, yes, it created some confusion and a lot of people that had me as a voice teacher, like the parents of the students, they're struggling. They were struggling to understand this change. They're struggling to understand. But it's really. It's not that I've changed, it's an uncovering. And so, like you see now, my heart, my beliefs, everything right out on paper now or on your screen, and it's who I always was. So it only shows me, as people reject me or don't feel comfortable to change.
Speaker 3:I realized that really what I was doing was I was just making myself palatable. I wasn't. I didn't change necessarily, I just allowed myself to express myself more. So that is the longest short story ever. I didn't like that, but it's this coming in. This is what a calling truly feels like. Like you know, I used to think like how do nuns know? How do they know when it's time? And I felt this way just this past summer, this real call to just stop faking it, stop trying to be something you're not anymore, because I was diluting my message, I was diluting myself and I could only serve a portion of the population, and I was just so ready to serve now on a global scale, but also just on my global scale, like to serve all parts of me, and so that's how I'm where I'm at right now I love it because, like literally, in this time of you sharing.
Speaker 2:I'm like cool, so that's all my questions. Thanks so much. Thanks for coming on the show, but like there's so many, I have so many questions, let's talk. Let's talk, I'll pick them. Thanks so much for coming. No, I mean, that's. The thing is like there's so many questions that I had as you were just talking and I'm so curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I love that you've just fully stepped into and you're embracing this role, as I didn't even say your name in the beginning. You're the past life witch, which I am the past life, she's the past life witch and I'd love to, yeah, bring it back to really like the beginning. So I love that you mentioned that, like you had this blueprint over you. So, bringing it back to the topic of the day, the muse, the inner genius.
Speaker 2:All of us are born with this sort of like inner genius, inner muse, this gift essentially, that almost operates as this, I want to say, like sort of spiritual sidekick, you could say.
Speaker 2:And there's a lot of reading that one could do about this. Some people call it the daemon, the inner daemon. So it's like I believe all of us have this and I'm just so curious about people and their journey of like how they embrace it, how they nurture it at the times when perhaps they've rejected it, and how to really like have the kind of relationship with it, that you're in sort of constant communication with it and, in a way, serving that inner muse and that inner daemon. So I want to bring it back to baby you and obviously, like you knew, coming in you were like all right, so cool, I'm born on Halloween, so like this is who I am everybody. And I'm just curious, like bring us back to like was there a moment that it came into you or is it something you always knew? Like when did you sort of first clock that this was who you are?
Speaker 3:I definitely knew. I remember myself coming into like conscious awareness that I was doing things differently. Because, well, one, I liked Funny Girl but that's another story In around like fourth, fifth grade, oh yeah, oh yeah, funny Girl was like my top movie. And I knew that when I was sitting in class and I'm like Funny Girl is my favorite movie and everybody else was like Terminator, this, so yeah. So I knew already I was an artsy little gal.
Speaker 3:But when I would feel stressed, I innately knew I would go up to this little room upstairs that really was used as like a, you know, let's put all the presents in that room and like it was just like an extra room, right, which is a luxury these days, but anyway. So we had this extra room, I would put on Anya and I would put on my favorite little like bell bottom yoga pants, which at the time they weren't called yoga pants, it was 1998. And I would put this on and I would meditate and I would do my own form of yoga. And I didn't realize that that was what it was, but I used elements that you know, people in their 30s just come to learn. And I was doing it instinctually, instinctively. I was already, you know, doing my own sort of yoga and listening to things, and I could feel my spirit want to slow down like this. I could feel myself, you know, even when I had like later days and I was a kid I would like take a bath and like relax, and it's like I knew how to do all these things. I knew how to comfort myself without giving, without being given any true like tools. I had never been told how to relax, I'd never been told about yoga or anything like that, so I was finding it all on my own. It got to a point where it's funny.
Speaker 3:But a friend of mine, you know I don't know if she truly knew this, but I was in, you know, I was in fifth grade and I was 10. And she was like Chelsea, I think you're a witch, and something with her saying that resonated with me, even though to this day I don't know if she practices anymore or anything, or if we would just like teen witches, you know, like being funny, right, right, I'm. I was like, oh, I'm still practicing, I'm. I just took that and I ran with it. But I had also shunned it for some time until I got to be an adult, and when I did eventually share that, like I was doing professional witchery, my family was actually like, oddly okay. They were like listen, you're an adult, you can make your own choices, things like that.
Speaker 3:But it was definitely something that's hard for people who are like you just got your masters at Columbia. It's, it's confusing for a lot of people and I think you know, I think there's a certain subset of people that will think you know, you've totally lost your mind. And then other people who really get it who are like oh yeah, okay, she tried the thing and then she woke up and you know so. So there's that part too. But yeah, baby Chelsea knew instinctively, I knew intuitively who I was in a real way. I had deep relationship with myself. Also because I was an only child, I didn't have very many friends. So like my whole environment was getting to know myself. My whole environment was about processing my emotions because I would come home and do the shadow work. Why was this person mean to me today? Let's work through it.
Speaker 3:So while I had been freaking, doing the mental health work my whole childhood, you know, people started coming, coming across their own shadow work. By the time I was a pro, you know, like so. So it only made sense to me Right, like, because I was always the carer, I was always the person to. You know, we get this so much as healers. We understand people almost to a fault. We make excuses for people almost to a fault. We're like I can see where they're coming from, because we would want somebody to give us that grace. So it's like, just, I'd always been just a kindhearted person and in this world it is not always well received, even as a voice teacher. You know, I think, like don't you want me to be kind and loving to your kids? And it's like, it's so funny that people are like would reject that in a sense. So no, you know, so yeah, it's always been a part of me, I have to say, and while I have at times, put away my spirituality, it's never been fully gone, like there have been times where my husband has witnessed me hyper focused on my career, but there was always a component that I was always like, even just a few years ago, that is, when I started publicly sharing that I was spiritually mentoring people. So I was coming out on Instagram as voice teacher and spiritual mentor, and this was years ago and I was working in that capacity too.
Speaker 3:So I had never just solely done, just voice, and I never woke up to anything. Like I had been practicing mediumship since 2013. I had been taking courses, but I was doing that all on the side. I got Reiki certified in 2015,. Yoga certified. Like I had been doing all these things, but like without sharing it with my voice.
Speaker 3:Teaching business, because I saw that business as like the corporate self, as the mask that I had to put on and everything that I was doing spiritually was really for me that I hadn't considered for it to be work. So I had ultimately been doing that to feed myself. Like I want to learn more healing modalities. I want to be able to help myself and my family. I want to expand my mind in this way. I want to learn more about this. So it was always secret because it's personal. I find that people who come out so easily sometimes it's like because they consider this just another venture, not a real coming out story of who they are. So that's why it was so painful and so a part of my story that it was painful. Because it's painful when it's your calling. It's scary, yeah, that witch wound, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's where I wanted to get into. Yes, honey, we got that. Which one coming through? Yeah, it's big, it's scary, there's so much there.
Speaker 2:So you brought up a lot of questions and things that I'm I'm always just interested in speaking to other people who've gone through this because it's sort of like let's share notes, like how are you at on your journey.
Speaker 2:Because you brought up the witch wound and imposter syndrome which I feel like you know, sort of go hand in hand in some ways, at least from my experience, which is, you know, I have my background is I'm a trained performer and I also worked in politics and so you know, like the outward persona of who I've been has been sort of like I've been very confused, like how, you know, I want to incorporate and bring everybody to the party and everybody to the show, but then it sort of means, like what you spoke to earlier, sort of not alienating, but it feels as if I'm I might freak out the people who are more sort of like in that corporate world or that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:So you know, but then it's painful for me to sort of shun like the really oddball, weird part of me. That's really my gift, and but it comes back to that witch wound, like if I really showed and I'm still in this process like I'm in this process now where, similarly, like I went into this huge portal of having to learn all of these spiritual tools simply because I needed them to survive, yeah, during my father's passing, and afterwards I was like cool, so I've been doing comedy and I need to just pause it because all I want to do is sit and meditate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who wants to laugh?
Speaker 2:right, now yeah, yeah like. I'll laugh with the spirits a little bit when they're telling me jokes, but like you know, I got nothing right now when it comes to comedy, so I'm in this like fun kind of moment where I'm, yeah, where I was just like cool.
Speaker 2:So I've been a hermit and it's been sort of challenging to like see everyone. You know the compare and despair cycle of being like, wow, so cool. Everybody else seems like so much further on their career track and I find that usually it's because they've followed sort of like a very linear career track and I'm like cool, so I followed this and then I had to pause and go and learn a ton and now I'm in this place of like merging both worlds of the spiritual work and the comedy and the performance, and it's awkward as heck, I know, it is very awkward, weird, I know, and it comes back to like imposter syndrome because because that's the thing you said something earlier that I love You're like I'm past apprentice stage and I'm like, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we know this. Oh, I'm like great, so we're not.
Speaker 2:I said this the other day. I was like I'm like past the kiddie pool play time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, like I'm done with that, that you should get very real with that, right? Because I think also, so many of us are like I'm not ready, I'm not ready, I'm not ready, I'm not ready. There really has to come a point where the true healers have to realize we're ready, because the other ones who, who are just again checking a box on their career track, they are saying they're ready, but they're not, they're giving not. You know. So it's tricky. Go on, sorry, I just yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 2:I mean that are like I don't know. Yeah, because it's once you know sort of the power and that's why I'm so fascinated with the muse and the energy and it's like that's why I'm talking about all of this is that it's so fricking powerful. It's like once you tap into that sort of river of power, you're like holy crap, like right, it's a lot to own and it's a lot to step into. And I would say also, like when you speak to the people who are like cool, I did my yoga teacher training, like I'm ready to you know, like I'm a master teacher. It's like you know, it takes time and I know not to say that somebody who's just starting, like I'm sure they have a lot to give, they do.
Speaker 2:But I think there's also something to be said about going into deep study and really honing your gifts, because each person on their path is going to be very, very specific about what they're serving. So I think there's something to be said about that, correct. But to bring it back to sort of like imposter syndrome mixed with which wound is really that fear that like I feel that is so gosh. It can be very present for me and in this moment it's very present where I'm kind of like it's that moment I'm going to say a curse, so I'm going to say it's like shit or get off the pot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:I have no choice but to dive into this, but I'm terrified and so I'm curious, like for your experience. It's like I'm so scared that if I really showed everything, all of it that I you know, there's a fear of of like literal persecution. It's like past life stuff coming up, being like if you show your power, they will literally kill you.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, crazy, I mean. Maybe not, though I. So that's, and that's why I started this work, because, first of all, I'd always been very, very interested in past lives. Like that was the other thing, like all we get interested in reincarnation had tons of books as a kid, like that's the one thing my parents did sanction, like a lot of spiritual books, a lot of dream books, a lot of, you know, like I had, I had those, those things in my reach.
Speaker 3:And so from past life work, I would get a lot of clients who were in some way shape or form, medicine, women, healers, midwives, doctors In some capacity. They all had a witch wound and in many of those lives not so pretty, didn't always make it out alive, and this is for hundreds and thousands of years. It's been like this over time. So we, technically, you know, and also witches, healers, you know, we are here for the oppressed. We're not necessarily here. We're here to really help people that are disenfranchised and struggling, and you know that's our purpose, because that's who we are. And so over time it can be very scary, especially because I had been trying to assimilate with the oppressor.
Speaker 2:I've been trying to yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:I've been trying to assimilate with the oppressor so I was like nothing to see here.
Speaker 3:I'm not rattling a snake in front of you. You know like. You know, like, so I had tried to assimilate for so long in all these different ways and I realized, well, I'm trying to assimilate with the Jews, I'm trying to assimilate with the Christians, I'm trying to assimilate and I don't even know myself, you know. So it got to a point where, once I made peace with myself, I realized that I was making peace with the witch wound. I didn't realize, like, like, my whole self really identifies as a witch in ways, not just with the term, but if you really look up, like, what a witch is. I mean, it was everything that I stood for, everything that I am, everything that I believe in. And so it got to the point where, like, I had to accept myself so much and love myself so much and believe that the people that are falling away are meant to fall away because they don't see me in the extreme.
Speaker 3:Also, I find online is safer for me because if you're going to say something, mean, I can block you. I'm not going to die from that. You know what I mean. Like, so I feel safer in this life because right now I'm expressing it all behind a screen, if you're going to call me a name.
Speaker 3:I'm like I've been there, you know, like I'm good, you know, I know. I know the names, I've heard these things and it's really just about knowing truly in my heart where I stand. If I know that within my spirit, my heart, I am good, I'm doing what's good and right for me, then it helps, it's protection, it's that shield of armor, but it's it's not easy to feel also like you're shunning anyone else. That's also not my intention, but people that that feel shunned, that are not normally, you know, just have to understand that like we are also here for a specific type of person, a type of audience. But I get it because, moving, shifting from voice teaching, I'm using the same account that you know I started my music business with, so I've had this account since 2014.
Speaker 3:It used to be Cam and Music, so I had people following me on there from that life where I just got out of college and I was just a little baby and I was, you know, like so tender and now really starting to see where I stand, like where I draw the line in the sand and where you know where my beliefs are. And it's scary, like I am scared every day I'm posting. I'm posting like big themes for people to chew on, but also like I have found a secret third audience. It's not necessarily the people that followed me for just the spirituality or just the voice teaching, but there's like this third group that's coming through that loves that. I do both. So I also say, like you know, you're going to get those people and the more we dive deep and like heal these wounds, the more we feel we can be out there and performing again and things like that. So I find that the more I do this work, the more also I feel called to share maybe a little diddy or two on my page, like I've felt called to sing a bit more and people can feel inspired to sing as well. So it's not like I'm also forsaking any, any of my past things that I've enjoyed, but I'm also now integrating it a little bit more.
Speaker 3:It looks different, it shifts, but it's all still me. You're just seeing it in different lights. You're just seeing those dimensions shift and change as we grow, as we grow on this earth. So it's been, it's been, I'm playing with it. It's not all easy. I have people that I love rejecting me. I have people that I don't know rejecting me, and you know it can be. It can be tricky, but you know what it's like. I've been through harder and we can move through this, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, that brings me to a question that I feel is sort of like a juicy question, cause I really I wanted to ask, like you know, are there tools that you've gained from doing this past life work that help in this process of sort of nursing this witch wound, the imposter syndrome, the rejection, because that, like, I don't know about you, but if I get you know, thank God I don't have a ton of haters yet just because I've been keeping a pretty low profile so far, because I've been playing it safe and it's done. I'm done playing safe. But when I've gotten a few like hate comments to me, it's like somebody like sticking a sword in me. I know, I know I've got a cancer moon, I'm a sensitive girl, I know.
Speaker 2:I'm a strong, badass chick but like I have a sensitive little like inside I'm marshmallow. So I'm just curious, like because to me that's like okay, so you might not be actually hurting me physically, but like it hurts. So I'm curious you know, from processing and integrating your work, your past life work, you know how do you bring that into your life now, like other specific tools that you use. Yeah, what can you share about that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of it. Really. For me, the way I do it is a lot of mindset work and a lot of I'll do candleworkings around it. So I will literally and I'll meditate with my phone open on Instagram and cleanse it so. So there are several things. So I will set the intention to also remove all evil eyes off my phone. So that's one thing.
Speaker 3:But to like go into detail with that, you can just have your screen open or a screenshot of, like your face and the name and everything and just sending it positive intentions and removing any entities from that kind of space, really imagining it as like a 3d kind of space. And that one I actually got from Capitolia. She, she walked us through a meditation in which in famous last spring about, and it was so helpful to me because at that point I was really visualizing. You know, it's really about how you visualize people receiving you. If I'm in a weird space and I've had a weird interaction, I suddenly think now all 20,000 people feel that way, but that's not true. That's just that one person. So it's about also like hypnotically removing that one little person, not allowing them to be the main theme of your page now, but just like a little, nothing, like I'm just removing an ant and removing a little piece of flint you know lint, whatever but you know, so that candlework I will do like a cord cutting. If I had a weird specific event or if I feel honestly, even if I'm feeling weird about consuming someone else's content and that's giving me a weird vibe, I will also remove myself from their space If I feel like I'm giving them the evil eye and I'm like, yeah, like if I find that coming up, I'll be like I don't like this in me, so I'm going to remove myself, so I don't do that to them. So that happens to not as much. But you know I'm not perfect. I'm still human. We can still be like cringe. You know it's like it's normal, I think it's.
Speaker 3:You know I think so many spiritual teachers out there we want to, we want to just look like a perfect. You know perfect, good, neutral, that's like you're allowed to be like kind of about people. So those tools have helped. And as far as my past life work, you know when you do this, you know I do this hours every week at this point because you know most people are booking two hour sessions and so for many hours. I have seen countless deaths. I have witnessed countless people trying to just help the collective and get hurt and really I think, as healers, we are waking up to this idea that you know we are. We are the special ones right now because we have so much love and care in our hearts and that's why it hurts. So it's not a bad thing that we get hurt. It actually shows our empathy and shows that we are good people. But at the end of the day, we have to really remember how powerful we are, that these small people feel like saying like two little curse words at us is going to do anything. So it's really about envisioning yourself as the grandtide priestess of your, your corner and that these people are just the small you know.
Speaker 3:Also, I like to also use archetypes. Jesus was not well liked by a lot of people, so I think you know this is true. Listen, at the end of the day, I hone in on archetypes. Who? Who was persecuted through time and and also then became a huge archetype for us all to love. These people that were socialists, that were lovers of people, these people that said things that were quote blasphemous, but it was really just like being a prophet, being someone that stood by God and the word and didn't want to control people. So I think of Jesus a lot. I think of Mother Mary when I want to show compassion to people. So I do a lot of archetypal work. I work with my ancestors, who are wise and well. I work with you, know my candles and everything. So these are all tools that I use to spiritually affect my, my internet space and also just remembering, like not to always, like consume so much that you think that that's your real world, because I think it hurts more when we think that this is our real world, like this little screen, and it's not like I'm a whole mother, I'm a whole spiritual worker, I'm a whole life. I am a whole Trader Joe's fan. Okay, like I, there's more parts to me. So it's just about honing in. What makes you multifaceted. Who are the people remembering? The people that love and care for you.
Speaker 3:But it comes with a lot of work. You have to build that community first. You have to build that safe space around you so that those little things don't bother you and you have people to go to to say like they will mean to me today. You have to go to somebody to tell. You have to tell someone and then you have to also realize that at some point, if you're telling the same person the 10th time like this person is me and they know you're all that and you know you're all that it gets ridiculous to even care. So there comes a point where it happens so much, the persecution can happen so frequently.
Speaker 3:I really enjoy the small moments of peace. But also you know you can block certain words now, certain comments, certain, so I just like I go in there, I'm like ugly, stupid. I just type in like I don't want to see these words. So I just also protect it's a protection spell Also within my comments like I will protect the space and be like this is a space for people like this. If you don't agree, please don't comment. You will be blocked, you will be deleted because this is a safe space for my community. I'm not. I'm open to feedback, but I'm not open to bullying and that's, that's a big thing. I'm open to feedback, I'm open to hearing if I've done any harm. But if you're just here to like shout at me please, please, go find another, go find another, go find another. So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2:That's where you're at. I love that. So another question is you know you mentioned these tools and well, I am curious. Before I ask this other question, I am curious could you explain a little bit about what candle work is, because I feel that there's some I mean for me as well, like I work with candles all the time but I have sort of my own way that I do it and I'm really curious like what you do.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I've learned candle workings from multiple teachers and the main thing is that you know you get two candles if you're doing a candle cutting or something. It's really a visualization and it's less about oh my god, I'm hexing people or you know, witchcraft, but more so about planting these seeds in your subconscious and when you, when you are gazing upon a candle, psychologically what's happening is you are, you are envisioning the thing happening. So if you are seeing, I mean there's a spiritual explanation to this and then there's also, just like science backed. So if you are looking at a candle and it's represented, one candle is representing you. One candle represents the other party.
Speaker 3:Let's say it's, it's been a rough relationship and you're ready to finally start those toxic cycles. A lot of people come to me like I just want to be done with him. We're broken up, but I always go back. I see this a lot. So let's say it's you and that other candle and they represent you. Know, each candle represents one and what I'll do is I'll tie twine on one candle, have it attached and tie it on the other side.
Speaker 3:You can also dress your candles and by dressing you'll put like some sort of oil that is used for a particular reason. So let's say you want to have an uncrossing. So I have many different oils that I work with and mostly I get them through bossy brujha. But you can also get them and they all come like this, and so I'll. I work with oils a lot just because I have a strong sense, sensory memory. So when I smell things, when I feel things, it helps my magic, and so I'll use different oils that represent different things that they carry out. So let's say you want more love, or you want less, or you want, you know you want things to be done. You would then consecrate or make that candle really emulate that vibe, kind of. So you can do that and then you can add I also add like herbs, like if I want more mental wellness, and you know there's just all different herbs that you can use, that that assist you in these things, because it's also it's all psychological, it's the thing that I'm grabbing and I'm mindfully and intentionally putting this on the candle and this is going to represent that I'm protected and safe and things like that.
Speaker 3:And then you light it at the same time and over over the course of an hour, the you know the string will then break, and that is to also subconsciously plant the seed that it is done. We are very powerful creatures with our minds and it's important for us to visualize. So I use it as a visual aid, I use it as magic, I use it as a way to signify that the thing is done, and I will film this for my clients and show them and I'll read it too. So it also depends on how it's burning and you know who's coming out on top. Maybe the other person already, so let's say the X, the flame broke off first from him. That then shows us that that person already was gone. So they were already not even invested. So the reason why you're finished is because you're feeling that a lot of women feel this kind of like something's off. He's not him, you know. So that'll happen a great deal as well. So yeah, that's kind of how I use my candle workings.
Speaker 3:I will also do like singular candles as well. If somebody is harming others and harming themselves, I'll bind them to make sure that they're protected. But mostly, you know, it's all for protection, it's all you know, for the common good. You know I'm trying not to hurt anyone per se, but that's technically like how I work with my candles and of course, like I have my whole altar I use. I use candles, you know, to represent all my deities and you know like they'll all be like my little prayer candles. But yeah, I got a whole team over there, it's got like a whole football team of candles over there. Yeah, of course I just use candles to visualize, you know like, so that's like my main, my main thing for candleworking.
Speaker 2:I love that. Wow, Wow, Wow, Very useful, Very useful. So that leads me into, I suppose, what my last question is. And you can really take it, take this and run, take it where you want to go. It's sort of like a multifaceted question, of course, which is really about how do you? It's a multi, multi, multi tiered question, perhaps, like sure, sure, sure. First is, how do you nurture your inner muse, this gift every day, and or is it every day? And so that sort of leads into the next question, which is because I'm just personally curious are there times or moments when you know that there's something that you could do, that there is some magic that you could do to help with a certain situation and you, how do I say, sort of resist it or drag your feet with it a little bit? Or are there times where, like nurturing this gift and like using your gift feels challenging, and it's not even the right word for it, but it's almost like I'll put it.
Speaker 2:I'll put it in the frame of really how I'm thinking about it which is I don't know if you've ever seen this meme where, like it's this girl, she's like oh, I'm so sad, or whatever, whatever. And then somebody's like you're a witch girl, you're a witch, yeah For sure. I guess it's like for me sometimes. That's. That's sort of where I feel sometimes. Where I was talking with my partner about this the other day, I was like you know, if I could just wave my fingers and like have this be done, you know, magically? I would you know if I could just snap my fingers magically?
Speaker 2:And he was like well magic and I was like, damn, you're right. So like there's times where I know that I'm in need of like using my own tools.
Speaker 3:And I forget.
Speaker 2:but I'm also kind of like there's like comfort and being like I'm just a normal person and I'm in the victim hood and there's something kind of like I don't know alluring about that of like do you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yes, I think also it's like sometimes it's a burden, because who heals the healer, you know. So I think it's so normal for us to also be like and like I was. I was sick last week and I'm letting a lot of you know events move through me and a lot of grief is happening to us as a collective, no matter why. And so when I get sick and everything I, you know, all I want to do is be in bed, but I always hear that voice. It's like go to your altar, go to your you know, like I hear the spirits because the spirits communicate with me like this, like as a constant thought. I got to, I got to do this. I've been ignoring this, I've been that's spirit talking to me. You know, it's not my OCD, that is, you know, because I could be, I could be OCD about the laundry that's backed up. So so I know that my spirits are communicating with me and I've gotten so much stricter with how I show up. But when life happens, it's hard sometimes to show up, but luckily, what I've done to make it easier. I mean, obviously, like having my own home. I am very privileged to have a space designated in my office. I'm very privileged that my family is fine with this. So these are all other things If you're listening and you don't have space for this, you know. So I want to acknowledge that I do have space to sit and be with myself and be with my spirits, and I used to do it in my closet. I used to call it my meditation closet. But you know, like, wherever you can find it, whatever piece you can find within yourself while you're going through hard times, is so helpful. I think, if we all are here reminding people, whether witches, healers or not, we all forget sometimes to take care of ourselves. We all forget to mother ourselves and reparent ourselves. So for me, because now it is my full time work, I've gotten so much better at showing up at my altar twice a day, especially during the winter, more so spring and summer.
Speaker 3:I'm like, hey guys, like I do, you know, more of a quick one and I can feel but I feel my connection lowering. You know what I mean, like you can feel that a little bit of disconnection, though they are with me always, I find that you know, when I'm sitting here and really just like being in this space, you know I'm here, but also there's life to live. So there's there's definitely balance. It's all about balance always, and I think you know some days I'm lifeing a little bit more than I am spiritual, but but that's what being spiritual is. It's just about like allowing yourself to just live as well, as well as you can.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I want to say that like finding a routine that does work for you helps, especially in the beginning. I say you know, if you can make it I know it's not always easy in the mornings for people, but I say, if you can make 10 minutes, carve 10 minutes at night. People come to me all the time. I don't know where to start. I'm like one candle sit. I'm like it's really like this is not so hard. This is what I, you know.
Speaker 3:But I think we we've lost patience or we think that it's going to be some divine miracle and it's like just connect in some way and connect. For me, connecting with a loved one is the easiest way to start, like connecting with my, my aunt, who passed was the real way. I mean anyone that had passed in my family was how I knew I could connect with the dead. So I'd been doing that since I was little, so for me it's easy to think like, oh, okay, I'm going to connect with my aunt, I'm going to connect with this person.
Speaker 3:So, starting small also, just start with someone. You know someone, you're familiar with their energy, so you know when they come up, oh, this is my aunt, this is grandma. Because you can feel the difference and I think when you start there it really is a nice gateway to other spirits that you might want to work with. Again, all these things used to scare me before I did shout a work, before I realized you know there's far scarier things in this earth than what you could even do to imagine what's happening on the other side. And as long as you're protected, you're calling in wise and well people, spirits you know you'll be protected and it's just about believing that too. So those are all my tricks and tips right now.
Speaker 3:I love that, I love that very useful, yes, very wise.
Speaker 2:And you're right, it is as simple as lighting a candle. That's just one candle, morning and evening, just one. I do one candle in the little Japanese incense stick and I'm like, okay, this is me and this is not all you need my daily thing.
Speaker 3:Or even if it's like you know, you, you, you're in the shower and you're really taking a minute to let the water wash over you. You know it's taking spiritual baths has been transformative for me too. But yeah, starting so small because I think it's just so easy to grab a $2 candle and sit with your, you know what I mean. So, yeah, those are. Those are all. That's what I would suggest for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it All right, so we're going to wrap it up there, even though I know that there's so much more like you're such a beautiful well we'll do a part tool, part two. Ladies and gentlemen, so to wrap it up, I would love for you to share with our listener if there's anything interesting or fun you have coming up and how they can work with you and how they can reach you and find you.
Speaker 3:Sure. So you can find me on the past life which dot com or on Instagram at the past life which, and right now I'm booking for I'm doing currently some more which work. So I'm doing those candle workings and those jars and things like that as we head into winter and you know I want to hermit all the time. But I'm also doing, obviously, past life regressions which come in one and two hour packages. So if you are a mom on the go or if you are, you know you're on limited time and don't have three hours to devote to traveling to a past life.
Speaker 3:I've made shorter sessions that are also more affordable for most people.
Speaker 3:So my goal is to help more people on a larger scale while also being a little bit more price inclusive.
Speaker 3:So I have a lot of different things that I offer, from literally free, from my podcast to just free downloads and things like that, to a whole sliding scale that moves upwards, but I try to include all kind of all types of price ranges so that everyone can experience some sort of healing.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, that's that's what I'm doing as far as psychic work, and then I'm also I've also started bringing back some support and care sessions during this time where people are just like having a lot more conflict within themselves, within their homes. So that is a space that I like to also like we'll do terror readings, we also do channeled readings and also just any any sort of healing that people need in those sessions. So I like to create that space also for just a space that like we can kind of work through what's going on, some shadow work, and just like feeling supported. I think you know it's so important to have a cheerleader in your corner and we, we need it, you know. So that was a big thing too. I just want to. I just want to give to people a little bit more like one on one, not just in the psychic space.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you can find a beautiful gift.
Speaker 2:We'll have all the links in the show notes, dear listener, so go ahead, check it out and definitely follow her on Instagram, because she's always sharing really wonderful content and I'm just so blessed and I feel really happy that you came on the show to share your experience and your voice. Thanks, all right, my friend. Thank you for listening. This has been another episode of the Ode to Joy podcast.
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