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Engaging & Reaching the Next Generation

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Welcome And The Goal

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Who Gen Z And Alpha Are

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is going to be on the topic of how to engage the next generation. So let me just share my screen. So my name is Maya Mothama. I work at Life Ministry, uh, both the prof and uh NAFTAL, and I'm very happy to be part of this.

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Uh yeah.

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So we're going to look at uh some practical aspects of how to be able to engage the next gen. So before you dive into that, we're going to focus on three things. The first thing is who are the next gen, just helping us to appreciate who are the next gen. Then I'm going to talk about the bridge program which we normally run, targeting the ex-candidates. Then the last thing is how best do we empower the next gen to be able to reach their own. Because if able to do an effective job, then they can be able to actually uh multiply themselves and see an even greater fruit. So when you talk about the next gen, we are basically talking about the ages between zero to uh 25-29 years. So when you look at this chart, this is uh data that was released by uh Hutsut and uh uh we are social uh last year, you can be able to see that the bulk of the Kenyan population is actually between zero and 29 years. When you look at the stars that have been shared by the Kenyan National Bureau of Statistics, they also get us to appreciate the same that the bulge of the Kenyan population really is between zero and 29 years. And that is really the next thing that you are talking about. These are the Gen Z and the Gen Alphas. I like this stars that are shared by Focus last year, and they basically break it down in terms of the Kenyan demographic demographic shift. And you're talking about the age, the Kenya, the Kenya population is at 56.6 million. So when you think about Gen Alpha, which are the people between 1 and 11 years, you're talking about 32% of the Kenyan population. When you look at the Gen Zs, these are from 12 to 27 years, this is 30% of the population. So if you're looking at the figures, alpha population is 18 million, the Gen Zs are 16 million, then the Gen Y's, and this is where I fall, is 21%, and that is 12 million. So this helps us to appreciate that when talking about the next gen, you are focusing on the alpha and the Gen Zs, which you're talking about, if you have to do the match, you're talking about 62% of the Kenyan population. The other uh people, the Gen X, which are between 44 to 59 years, that is 9.5%, then baby boomers uh that is from 60 to 78 years, we are talking about 3.1 million, then lastly, uh the silent or the greatest generation, we are talking about almost 700,000, and that is 79 plus years. So that when you think about it, the mandate is clear for us. And we're talking about the Gen Zs and the Gen Alphas, which are the bulk of the population, and we are really talking about them being part of the next gen, then we have our work cut out. I

Gen Z Hopes And Fears

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like this data that was shared uh by McGrid organization, which basically helps us to appreciate what are some of the top hopes that the Gen Zs have. And uh we are talking about the people from 1985 to 2009. Their top hopes is that they want to own their own home, they want to have full financial freedom and independence, and they want to travel and see the world. What are some of their top fears? And this helps us so that as you're coming up with a uh curriculum to be able to engage with the Gen Z, be able to help tackle some of these fears. So their top fears is they won't have enough money to live comfortably, never being able to buy their own home and being stuck in a job that they don't enjoy or find fulfillment. And that is where you get to see that many of them are constantly changing uh their different jobs. So let's

Gen Alpha Digital Reality

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now look at the Gen Alpha, and these are the people between uh born between 2010 to 2024. Uh Kato alluded that after Gen Alpha, these Gen Beta. Gen Beta are the people that are born uh from 2025. So for Gen Alpha, some interesting stats is that their weekly birds we are talking about 2.5 million uh that are born globally every week. And top countries by birth, we have India, we have China, and we have Nigeria. What are some other things that are interesting about this generation is that 46% of this generation, 7 to 12 percent to 12 year olds, have an anti-social media account, and typically the age requirement is 13, and some countries are already raising it to 16. In terms of uh uh their desires, 64 percent actually say that they rather be a YouTube social media influencer than the president. You remember the iShow Speed who came to Kenya last year, and some of the millennials are wondering who is this person, and for them, they are basically looking up to such kinds of people. 73% of these uh gen alphas, 8 to 11 year olds, they play video games most days or every day. You can be able to see their gaming community that most of their friends are actually online as opposed to in person. 16 to 61 percent are online and 40 percent friends in person. Another interesting start is these young people are already making money at a very young age. Three of the top nine global YouTube channels are actually run by Gen Alpha. They are run by Gen Alpha kids. When you think about kids diana show like Nasty Officio, Vlad and Nikki, we are talking about over 115 million subscribers, and these shows are being run by these shows are being run by uh by this team, the Gen Alphans. Then 57% of the eight to eleven-year-olds, they are talking to their friends online while they play uh video games. So some of the challenges they face, the gen, the next gen drug and substance abuse, cyberbullying, peer pressure, uh porn addiction, uh homosexuality, and lesbianism. These are some of the challenges they face. Uh, as I do ministry amongst campus students, I remember two weeks ago meeting with uh the dean of students in the chaplain, so that when you think about the data that is being shared here, Nakada shared a report last year whereby they talked about the crisis of the drug abuse in the campuses, and this is something that is seriously affecting uh the campuses. I focus on doing ministry at the University of Nairobi, and this is a major challenge whereby students are not going to class, they are engaging in all kinds of malpractices, and drug abuse is one of the serious challenges there. So, this is a serious crisis that we need to be able to pray for and find ways to be able to handle this crisis. So, the gen

Loneliness Anxiety And The Gospel

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alphas and the gen Z, this generation has grown up in a world in which smartphones, tablets, social media, and streaming services are essential to everyday life. So they don't just consume media, they have always been surrounded by it and have always learned from it. And I look like what Katumbo shared that even as you're thinking about engaging the next gen, we cannot afford not to be part of the digital engagement. So you might think that the Gen Z and the Gen Alpha, because they have this digital uh uh awareness, that they have it all. But the truth is they also experience extreme loneliness, isolation, and anxiety. And like every generation before them, they need Jesus. Every time you connect with the students in campus, this is something that is standing out for them. They are looking for company, and some of them have not even been able to develop their social skills because they are spending a lot of time online. So, how best do we engage them?

Bridge Program Pillars And Tools

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In Life Minister, you have different programs that we use to engage the Gen Z and the Gen Alphas, and one of them is a bridge program. So the bridge program is an ex-candidate program that we run, and this mostly target six kans who have just cleared high school and it runs for four months. It runs from January uh to May, and during the program, we basically seek to be able to equip them on these three things. The pillars for the bridge programs are we want to see them growing spiritually because this is key uh for all that they are doing. We want to be able to prepare them for college so that whether they are going to college or campus, they're able to make the right kind of choice choices. We also want to prepare them to be the right kind of leader so that when they go to the campuses and the colleges, they're able to uh lead well, to be able to lead uh even their different constituencies. And the last part is basically the whole aspect of movement building. We want them to be able to go and start spiritual movements in the colleges and the campuses they are going to. So some of the resources that use to be able to engage the young people uh is basically the Thrive Studies app. And uh now that you know that most of them are spending a lot of time online, we have been able now to make this to a book. So you've called the book Nawiri, and I'm going to show it in one of the slides. So this is a nice uh resource for us to be able to download. I know Katumbo and Ludia to this. So you have not yet downloaded this app, kindly go to Google Play Store and download Thrive Studies. There are lots of uh studies there to be able to engage uh to disciple the young people. So this is how it looks like uh from the website and also from the app. So these are just uh some pictures of what's happening. These are bridge program happening this year. Bridge is currently running in 35 churches across the country, and uh, one of the centers here, this is one of the centers in Nakuru, and the other center is in Royal. So these are some of the centers where the program is going. So, how does this bridge program uh run? It runs in different ways according to the churches. For some churches, they prefer to run it through the week. So, out of the seven days, the church might do five days in a week, Monday to Friday. Most of the churches are focusing mostly on doing it on Saturdays, so nine to one or nine to three, and for some churches, they may have a very congested program. So, for some of them, they prefer to just run the program in one month. So for a whole 31 days, just running through the bridge program. So as long as uh the pillars are followed and able to ensure that spiritual growth is happening, you're preparing the young people for college, the leadership is being uh taught, and also movement building, then that that is okay. So, what normally happens is at the beginning of uh the year, the first weeks of January, we normally bring the mentors together because the bridge program is run by the mentors, and the mentors are drawn from the churches. So you bring the mentors together and train them on how to be able to run the bridge program effectively, then the mentors are now able to go and run the program in the different churches. So, this is one of the missions that the bridges did last year, and it is interesting that before we went for the mission, some of these bridges were afraid, wondering how can I even go and share the gospel. They have never shared the gospel, but during this uh mission, we are able to expose over a hundred people to the gospel, and we had close to 30 give their life to Christ. So you can be able to see the joy that they have just seen lives transformed. So currently, the bridge program is running in 13 different counties across the country that is in Nairobi, Kyambu, Kajiadu, Baringo, Nakuru, Kisumu, Eldoret, Mombasa, Isiolo, Bomet, Kiricho, Kilifi, and Narog. And how can you be able to come in? Our goal is that in the next 10 years, by the year 2033, our designs that we'll be able to have this map totally painted blue. We want to have a bridge center in all the counties in Kenya so that this program is rapidly happening in the different counties and people's lives are being impacted. So, this is uh a bridge mission we did in Tawala last year, and it's a joy just to see the young people taking the lead and saying that it is actually possible to go out and share the gospel. This is in Eldoret, uh, the young people going to share in the streets uh of Eldoret. So this program is run in different counties, and it is a joy to just see many people come to Christ. So, some of the materials that we use for the bridge program uh there's a four spiritual loans. We have the Nawiri material, which is now the Thrive Studies app, which has now been uh put into a book, and you also have uh follow-up series, different follow-up series. We have a six uh six pack follow-up series. The first one is confidence, and all these resources we get to train uh the bridge mentors the first tweets, so that by that time now they can now be able to go and run the program effectively. Let me

Testimonies And Mission Fruit

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share two testimonies of what's happening uh on the ground. So the lady uh the middle, her name is uh Stacy. So Stacy went through the bridge program in Kuale, and after the bridge program, she's currently studying medicine at the University of Nairobi, uh, main campus. And what is interesting is that Stacey did not just after the program ended when she came to campus, her passion to share the gospel did not end. So Stacy shared with her friend Veronica, who gave her life to Christ, he's also a fellow doctor, and now you can be able to see that the movement is growing. That thanks to Stacy, Stacy is now working with other medics at University of Nairobi, she's a second-year student, and through her energy, her zeal, and her passion, she's able to impact even many other girls and won't give God all the glory. She's one of our killers' leaders at the University of Nairobi. Another success story is of one Elvis. Elvis went through the bridge program at uh I'm forgetting the name of this place. Uh, it's Kaimosi in Kaimosi. And uh, when he went through the bridge program, his parents were a bit hesitant, wondering what is this bridge program all about. Many of the young people around the area after high school, they get to engage in drugs and all kinds of things. But after the bridge program, the parents were very excited. You can be able to see the father and one of our staff at Life Ministry, uh, that's Simon and Dickey. The father was very grateful. But thanks to the bridge program, Elvis is now one of the leaders. He's now currently leading the current cohort of the bridge program, and he's seen multiplication happening. So it is interesting that before the parents were fearful, but now they can be able to see the difference. And Elvis is one of our key led leaders in Kaimosi area regarding the breach program. So we want to thank God that we are seeing impact through the breach program. We are seeing the uh the Jen Alphas being engaged, and this happened two weeks ago. Them sharing the gospel. A hundred bridges shared, stepped out to share the gospel, and can be able to see that out of the 136 that people that we are shared the gospel to, 48 give their life to Christ. So, all glory to God because what He's doing, that through these young people, we are being able to see many lives transformed.

EPIC Framework For Engagement

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Then all is said and done, Gen Alphas, Gen Zs are looking to their parents and their leaders for guidance. So parents need to give Generation Alpha confidence, as many young people face insecurities and mental health issues about an uncertain future that is constantly being painted for them. So amidst all the change that is happening, the Gen Zs and the Gen Alphas will still crave for acceptance, community, and belonging. So, how to teach this generation as I wind up, I want to share the acronym EPIC how to be able to engage this generation effectively. So, E is for experiential. In all the programs that you are doing, we need to be clear that we don't just want to just simply lecture, but provide something that is experiential. This will be from the videos that you have just seen to even virtual reality theater. So let them experience, let them get to engage. Let the programs also be participatory so that don't learn to just be the only one in motion. Allow them to participate in the outcome and where the discussion goes. It was interesting last week, just meeting some of the bridges, and for them they are talking about how to tackle topics like new age, postmodernism, and they have gone ahead to just do research and they are presenting to the rest of the church. So when the uh Gen Zs and the Gen Alphas are engaged in such a way, some of these truths also get to stick to them. It is important for us to uh be image-rich. Images are the languages of the 21st century, not ones. So even as you're training, you can base your truth on a metaphor, you can come up with an image and use that to be able to start a conversation. Okay, and lastly, just appreciating that these young people are connected, so they want high-tech and high touch. So let's use technology and relationships to help them discover truth. So, as I wind up, the last uh aspect is just the three is how to lead this generation well. Let us entrust these skills to them, let us equip them and let us engage them. When you think about the story of Stacy and the story of uh uh the other gentleman, that these young people are leading the generation, and it all started by us, entrusting them with the opportunities to grow, allowing them to experiment and fail is also key to building their resilience. One of the research that has been done is discovering that the resilience of the Gen Z's and the Gen Alphas is very low. So when you allow them just to experiment, try new things, and sometimes they fail, they also get to grow in terms of uh resilience. So by engaging, equipping, and trusting Generation Alpha and Generation Gen Z, we can set them up well for the years to come.

Q And A On Training Options

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So let me pause there now, and uh, if there are any questions or any additional comments from uh the my co-facilitators, they can be able to add in.

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Maybe for a first one as the others come up, um, my idea is just to share. Yeah, so if our church wanted to have a bridge program, or one of the people here wanted to be trained for that, maybe you can just give some specific you know, is it by reaching out to you? Uh or is there one training that's planned and so on? Or any of the other ministries, even the ministries to a to a college or high school near them. Yeah, thank you.

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Yeah, so uh I lead the student ministries and you're focused on high school ministry, the bridge program, and campus ministry. So, if there's anyone who is interested in engaging in high school ministry, kindly reach out to me. I'll share my contacts uh shortly for the bridge program. We normally run it from January to May. So I know for now it may be a bit late to engage in the bridge program. So next year we have an opportunity, and the truth is we need many mentors to be able to engage because the success of the bridge program is really having key mentors around with that for campus ministry. The opportunities are open. Currently, we are doing ministry in three campuses in Nairobi that University of Nairobi, Kenyatu University, and J Cquant. So we'll be happy to engage more. So let me share my contacts. Feel free just to uh call me, WhatsApp me, and we'll be able to engage further.

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There's also a question there.

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So the training for small groups, do you have a minimum number for trainees? Not really, uh depending on the interest. Like uh next week, we are we are going to be training a number of people, so depending as long as the team is between five to ten, that should be okay. And now that you employ in different ways, either virtual or physical. In some churches that are not available, maybe to attend the first weeks of the training in January, you can always organize a special training for them. Yes.

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Okay, any other questions or clarifications for Maidia or even after?

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Maybe for I could just ask family for the for the small group training. Do they have to be done at your at your location or you can come and do them at uh offsite basically?

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Yes, you can we can do them off site. So we are flexible as a team, and we have a team of uh so they have the the student ministry team has a team of around 14, so you can also always be able to organize so that even if I'm not there, you can be able to send a team to do that. So, yes, we can be able to do that offsite, online, that's possible. Benjamin, is there a version for people who are who are not schooling who graduated recently? So the breach program is for those who uh the ex-candidate program, and uh from from our program we are planning, we the plan was to run it from January to May, but we have exemptions so that if a church was to actually have the training done for them because I know some churches prefer to run the breach program, some start in March, others in April. That is something that can be able to organize. So you are saying that our program is not rigid, we are flexible, we want to work with the needs of the church, so you can be able to flex that. And there are some charges for the offsite for the offsite high schools. So ideally, we we don't charge, we basically get to engage uh so that in in some cases, like for the offsite high schools, we get to engage volunteers who are near uh near the high schools. Like some of the high schools are that are outside Nairobi, we would have some volunteers who might want to engage and uh uh engage those high schools so you can be able to organize a training. So the training is organized in Nairobi, then after that, we now get to uh empower them to run the program.

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Two other questions to you, I think for you.

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We have a program for those who have graduated and an at home student program. Yes, Isaac, we have a program for those who have graduated. The program is called Leader Next, and uh this is run by our leader strategies uh leader strategies team. So for those who are interested in the Leader Next program, that is uh something we'll be able to we'll be happy to organize. Uh, the person who leads that program is called uh Bill Dindy, so you can be able to organize that. So we do have that program for home Bible fellowships. Do you have books you can recommend for Bible study? Uh, there was a chart that called last week, but one, and they asked whether you can be able to use the Nawiri program for Bible study. So you can use the Nawiri Bible study material for uh for home Bible fellowship. You also have some other materials uh that you normally use in high school, and those can also be relevant in a home Bible fellowship. We have materials called the 10 basic steps. These are 10 study series that can also be able to use uh in a Bible study at home. So that is that is possible. So, Joseph Kialo, do you have a tailored program for teaching teens? Yes, for the high schools, we specifically have been using the 10 basic steps uh Bible study for the high schools, and how you normally do it for the high schools is uh we are normally given between an hour and an hour and a half in the high schools, so you normally get to engage uh the high school students in that in that way. So, out of the 10 books, maybe in a year we can end up doing between two to three books for the 10 basic steps. We have the star program, which is going to be running in Ciolo from the month of June. You have the staff serve program, which is going to be running in Eldorent. We are planning to start an internship program in May uh at Life Ministry Kenya headquarters. So you also have internship programs for those will be interested to join uh ministry. And the internship programs runs for one year, so that's a commitment for one year.

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Who is a candidate for that? Maybe just a little bit more so that those who may be interested maybe yeah for the internship program.

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So the internship program you are targeting people who have just graduated from campus, but we also have uh in terms of the age gap, for the person who are going to who are going to do the internship program, the the age, the age limit is between people have just clear campus to 45 years. Because because for the internship program, there are some interns that can be able to serve in the global church ministry, which mostly focuses on the church. So the internship program runs for one year. So the first two months, we normally focus on training the interns on how to be able to raise resources to do ministry effectively. Then after that, they are now seconded to the different strategies. Some are in high school ministry, some in campus ministry, some in leader ministry, leader impact ministry, which targets the marketplace, and some in the church ministry, and you also have some in the digital ministry. So after the training for the first two months, they are now sent to the different strategies.

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Uh, thank you very much, Maitea and uh Naptal. I think I'll turn it back to you now, Isaac, just to say that again we want to just share this array of tools, resources available to equip God's people for works of service so that uh it will even be more stronger in the ministry that God has caught claim to. And I hope that uh you can begin to see some of the resources that are actually available, and they are free, they are there for the taking and the using for the for the lands of God's words, God's work here. So back to you, and thank you again for the opportunity here tonight, and there'll be a lot more on the 15th of May. Thank you.

Next Steps For Ministry Teams

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Amen, man, amen. Thank you, thank you so much, uh, prof. Uh, thank you so much to uh the the trainers, uh Brother Naftali, Maidia. Thank you so so much. Um, for what I think has been an insightful session. Um, for me, listening to you, I'm like, where have you been? It's like the question I'm like, I can't believe that this is all here, and um uh there's just so much connection to what we are doing and what you are doing. Um, and I I was just sitting there and my mind was just racing on just the opportunities for collaboration and how we can really how you can be helpful to us as we do ministry. Because as uh Professor, I think it wrapped up very nicely. We are involved in um in in uh church ministry, so we work very, very closely with pastors across the country. We've been running crusades with them, you know, training programs for their leaders. Um we then, of course, we are very high heavily involved in the high school ministry. Um a lot, we ran a lot of weekend challenges across the country, um, you know, with a lot of a lot of a lot of students being quite impactful. And now also in the last uh this last year, now we God has also opened an opportunity for the universities in the eastern region, and we are working together with all the universities and colleges there on an organized program. Um and and when I'm listening to what um what you have just um you know, you have really opened our eyes, uh, especially around just how to reach uh this, what you're calling the next generation, who happen to be the people that we are targeting. And um, I would say we have we have done what we could with whatever we had, with actually very little of training and even um just gropping. And and I think listening to what you have shared here, this is going to be very, very helpful for us um as we progress, as we go to the next uh uh chapter, I think the next uh season of this ministry. Um uh maybe Prophet would have told you this we've just celebrated 30 years of ministry. And so, you know, coming here on our 31st year and listening to what you know what you have available. I feel like God is like you know, really equipping us for um the next season of our of our lives where we need to be able to reach more and more people, but we cannot do it the way we have done before. Where we get onto buses and and go to do crusades. We may not be able to reach as many people as we can reach online uh if we are if we leverage the digital tools that you have uh you have shared with us. So I think you could find the very willing uh people to be trained. Um we're looking forward to the next one. Um, and and I can't even wait uh for that next training to come in. I think we should mobilize every other because I think we were around 74, around over 70 of us here. And I really thank the cream team for the discipline you've kept in the class, uh coming on time and staying in the class on time. That'd been awesome. Thank you so much. Um, that I think we we even the next one, we should really be as many of us here as possible uh so that we can take this training and learning. And then what we're also going to do, Professor, is we'll also now debrief as a team and and go and ask the question. So we have had, we have been trained. So what next? What did you what do you what what did you see that you can pick we can use? Because I may be able to see something myself and another brother here is seeing it differently, another one is seeing it differently. I think collectively, when we now do our debriefing session, we'll be able to focus on a few things that we can think we can pick and actually uh you know work on them. For example, we have a uh a big center um here in my chakos, our creme center, which is a huge trading center, um, which is which is early utilized. Um, and so what was coming into my mind was okay, how can we then leverage this center uh to even do more for the churches around and regions and our region and everything because it's there, it's available for use, it's an asset that we that that we have. We have vehicles um that can be able to be to facilitate some of these things. Um, and and there are many, many young people that are actually that need this. So I think to me, there's a lot that um I think believe this is very timely and ghost timing is always the best. Uh, but we need to you know just zero in on each one of us on this meeting today and just ask the question what did you hear? What did you pick that we can actually apply? And I'm asking, I'm really appealing to all the CREM members here, really reflect around it like that, even as you listen to the recording, because we're going to share the recording today. Um, but just ask the question: what can we pick here as a ministry that we can actually implement and and get going? For example, we should be having uh at almost a 24-7 digital team that is actually trying to reach people online, yeah. Um, because we have the ability and we have the tools and we have the capacity. Uh, we have staff, we have you know, staff members um that work for the Crab Ministry, and ideally, they should be working 24-7, reaching out to people digitally, you know, because we have the means and the ability to do that. Um, that we didn't, this is to me an eye-opener as to what is actually possible if you can we can get more equipped. And we I know we may need to train them, we may need to give them more exposure, show them the real thing, but but that is really to me uh what will define the next season of this ministry. So, very, very humbling and um really encouraged, and I believe is the same uh thing to the team here. And uh maybe before we wrap it up, I'm going to ask uh brother Daddy Francis. Um, I think uh he was uh connected. I'm just going to request him to uh just say a few words, um uh, you know, as we as we close. And then we're really going to look forward to the next the next training. We'll mobilize as many of us as possible who could not come. I'm sure this listen the recording. I think they'll want to be there in person. But most important is the debrief session that we're going to have when we start asking the question okay, what do we do uh from here? How do we work together with life ministry, with international leadership university, and how do we leverage each other, really advance the gospel in a very, very accelerated manner. So, Professor, thank you again. It is really very, very humbling to have you and the team. Really find time to come here. We don't never take it for for granted. Dr. Mary, thank you for being here to support as always. Yeah, it's just amazing, and we we thank God for everyone who has been able to attend here today. So, um, I'm going to request Daddy Francis to um just take on the microphone from there and just perhaps a photo of thanks, and then I'll request him then to close it up for us with a word of prayer. And um, yeah, for the rest of the cray members, we meet every morning for our prayers that that continues. Uh, we meet in the morning. Um, we have a lot um to pray about and uh as we prepare for the missions that are coming, and uh we are believing God to continue to equip us. But thank you again, Professor and the team. And I'll hand it over to Daddy Francis, who will say a few words and then I'll request him to close for us, and then we look forward to the 15th of May, uh, where we're gonna have the next session, but in between that we'll have our debrief sessions as the Lord will enable us. So, welcome, Daddy Francis.

Closing Reflections And Prayer

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Thank you, thank you, brother Isaac, for this uh time. Thank you, Professor, for sharing the great teachings that we require in this ministry together with your team. How we should approach everything in the ministry. It is true. This season or the time we are living is different from our time. The generation we have is a generation that requires a lot of attention, and the way we used to be approached is not the same way we can approach them. If you approach them being harsh or uh consuming most of their time, they'll run away. And so we have learned a lot, and uh I would just say, like Isaac, it is God who has brought you even to be connected together with our ministry. The many times we have met you ministering at our center, and also the resource you have given us tonight, wow, it's fantastic, and this is what we require because reaching these young people today is not easy. We have done ministry in the schools, we have done ministry in the camps, and even we have done ministry in the churches, and uh all the time when I share with the youth within a very short time, they just want discussion. If you preach to them, you'll find they are not connected, but if you open up for them to discuss so that you start with the discussion, you will hear see them coming on board. But when you preach and preach and preach for 40 minutes, you uh you find yourself totally disconnected. And so a Sunday Sana professor Ma Fundisho Haya Kate Kakiwango Kizuri, together with your team, and I hope Isaac will bring you again so that we can continue learning how to do it at this season. Otherwise, it's a blessing to have you on board. Thank you, thank you, thank you, God bless you, and uh uh it's our wish you continue to be connected with us so that we can learn more as we preach this gospel. Thirty years down the line, if you see some of our videos when we started, it could not work, but it worked. But today we need more grace for it to work in the right way.

SPEAKER_01

So God bless you, God bless you together with your family and a lot of the.