The Midnight Run
The Midnight Run
Films of the 1990s
Get ready to journey back in time with us, to a decade filled with iconic movies. We'll also lead you through memory lane, revisiting some of the 90s' most beloved films - yes, we're talking about classics like Goodfellas, Schindler's List, and Good Will Hunting. We saw such Director's as Burton, The Coen's and Tarantino. Has anyone had a better year as Spielberg did in 1993? As if that's not enough, there is also a quiz on the songs that won an Oscar for Best Original Song during the 90s (hint: Disney classics might have dominated the scene). There is also a car at stake for another quiz for Matt.
But what's a celebration of the 90s without a nod to some of the decade's most influential albums? We discuss the soundtracks of our lives during this memorable era. Join us as we discuss our favorite film moments of the 90s, from Alec Baldwin's chilling opening in Glengarry Glen Ross to Ray Liotta's Copa Cabana entrance in Goodfellas.
Such a rich group of films to pick from it is no surprise that only 4 films feature in both top 10 lists.
We go off topic with tunneling out of the family home, expectation ruining concert experiences and running away from the TV license authorities.
Get ready for a nostalgic trip down memory lane, full of laughter, debate, and appreciation for a decade that left an indelible mark on us all.
Hello, my name is Lewis Jones.
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Speaker 2:Stup, but that's normal. That's far removed from the subject of this week, so this is episode 25.
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Speaker 1:If we had no idea, anyone would have listened to this, hey, listeners Anyone who listens to this fiasco. So we are very kind of you, all of you, to have listened to the previous 24. So today is 25.
Speaker 2:We were struggling to find a player with a number 25 share Because our usual thing we used to just remember We used to be into NFL, i used to laugh quite a lot And we'd always just drum up a number from our youth. And 25 is we've come run a bit dry. Seattle City Hawks Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1:What was interesting, though, when I was a kid When we were kids we used to have a load of American football jerseys.
Speaker 2:Yes, we do The numbers on it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I had a New York Giants one with 25 on it, but I have no idea who that is, or was.
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Speaker 1:So we're talking about the sort of era of Joe Montana and the dominance of the 49ers. So whoever was number 25 for the New York, Giants.
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Speaker 1:That would take a long time as well. What was the character from Monty Python who tried to jump the channel?
Speaker 2:I can't remember.
Speaker 1:I can't remember I was saying to Neil the other day about in that sketch which reminded me how much I enjoy shifty characters from Michael Palin. Oh, and he was this bloke's manager and having him do really stupid things, like each trick, just a cathedral or something like that. But he was like a really shady mafia type, not like the actual ones who went and did the one with the Graham Chapman as the Colonel When the two brothers come in and tell him nice regiment. Shame if something happened to it.
Speaker 2:Ron. His name was Ron.
Speaker 1:Ron's the person who jumps the channel.
Speaker 2:There he is On my feed. The other day came up Bicycle Repairman. Oh yeah, i love Mr FG Superman. His face when he's just blending in Palin's a genius, love it. I like there was one where they tried to scale the north face of the Epping High Road or something or whatever. Or Chiswick High Road He's climbing up High Street with like grappling irons. Yes, love it with Python. But again, but nothing to do with this episode.
Speaker 1:This episode is. this is quite a rich topic for us. Massively rich Is the films of the 1990s? Yeah, wow, before we get into all of that, have you watched any films in preparation for this?
Speaker 2:No, no, there are a lot of several reasons for this. I feel like I've watched most of the things I wanted to watch. It's like that is my decade, even more so than the 80s. That's when I was properly into, heavily into movies for the first time. Yeah, i mean. So I rewatched because Claire wanted to, so we watched. What did we watch? I mean I ran it down. We watched Quick Change, oh right, which she really enjoyed because she was going to fall asleep, but she actually really enjoyed it. I mean I love, love, quick Change, so we rewatched that. Yeah, i watched a bit of Hard to Kill because it was on TV last night.
Speaker 1:No, was it Mason Store? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Kelly the Brock. Yes, Which is is toilet, but better toilet than any of the other stuff. Take that to the bank. Yes, yes, yes. Then the loon that is cigar is probably his best film. It's still toilet, probably is. I mean Under Seed was a big hit.
Speaker 1:Under Seed is good Because Tommy Lee Jones is a great film. It's probably his best film, a scene chewing Gary Boosie. Yes, But I do think, yeah, Hard to Kill. out of all those other ones I think is probably his best one.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then, obviously, i went to the cinema last night I watched. Indiana Jones, which has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1:So Without like one word owns. I don't want to know anything else. Was it good? Yes, that's fine by me, right? Thank you, move on. Yeah, so that was it. That was all you've watched.
Speaker 2:That was it. I mean I've probably watched. I've watched a bit like JFK was on, i watched a bit of that. So I've dipped into things that I've seen, but not new stuff. I was going to watch Chaplin because I haven't seen it. Oh yeah, i've not seen it either, and I've got that. And I was going to watch Ghost Dog Way of the Samurai with the forest Whitaker in it, which is supposed to be a really good film I've not seen that Okay. But I never got round to it.
Speaker 1:So I I watched one, four new ones Go, re-watched one. So I re-watched Edward. Yes, because I obviously I was toying between two. I thought it might be, and yes, and so I re-watched Edward and Helen enjoyed it. Griswell, that still makes me laugh.
Speaker 2:Griswell.
Speaker 1:It's just so ridiculous, And I watched Mulan which I've never seen before.
Speaker 2:Have you not One of Lola's absolute favorites?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Enjoyed that.
Speaker 2:Because you see Big Fat Ugly Pigman, the one we always talk about. the villain, Oh, the villain.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, he is a big fat ugly pig man. He's quite chilling though, isn't he? Oh yeah, he's quite scary. I mean, there's some some sort of more seriousy bits in that than others.
Speaker 2:And then lovely, lovely little turn from Eddie Murphy. Yeah, he was funny, i liked him as the dragon thing.
Speaker 1:I'm sure, yeah, so I watched the Blair Witch Project, oh yeah, which I'd never seen before. Yeah, i expected not to like it.
Speaker 2:John Simmons absolutely loads it.
Speaker 1:And I didn't like it as such. but I must admit in the last 20-odd minutes I did get quite engrossed in it And I was surprised.
Speaker 2:I've never got around to it, that's why I've been in it.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's why. That's why this is really good.
Speaker 2:I thought about you. Know when did you?
Speaker 1:watch it on without dropping a streaming service Sky, okay, yeah, yeah, it was on Sky.
Speaker 2:John Simmons went to the cinema and it's his most intensely ranted about it afterwards, is it Yeah?
Speaker 1:Finally, the least favourite film I ever saw at the cinema is in the 90s. It will come up later. And what else today? Oh, i bought two, two. I've put my hand in my pocket, bought out some coins of the realm and I bought two films. Which ones? True romance, yes, which I'd never seen. Really I know of the scene with Christopher Walkman and Dennis Hopper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is absolutely brilliant And but I'd never seen it, Yeah, And so I really enjoyed it. There are Rolex along. Oh yes, it's really good. So, I was pleased with that.
Speaker 2:I think it's exactly what you imagine a Tarantino Tony Scott mashup to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, another one I bought which we watched on Monday was Before Sunrise. Oh yeah, yeah, which was good. Helen didn't like it.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:I thought it was good. I liked it. It's a bit the style is delivered.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very rich and leg-weight. They're just basically filling time talking to each other.
Speaker 1:But Helen, I think, was always worried that there was going to be some nasty turn, that one of them was going to be like a killer or something.
Speaker 2:So, she sort of felt like she was on edge watching the film all the way through And I knew obviously that wasn't the case, But I quite like yeah, yeah, There's that thing where you go into something We never really go into. We very rarely go into a film without baggage. We generally know a little bit about film, don't we?
Speaker 1:Well, our own perception of the experience, the experience of film, it's totally like fresh to something.
Speaker 2:It's quite nice when that happens when you don't. it only really ever happened in our youth, youth. The two youths, the two work. That's from the 90s, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I bought that. what's that? There were two I wanted to watch, but I never got around to it because I don't have to buy them as well, And I just didn't bother. One was Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the other one was Trainspotting. So, I've not seen either of those.
Speaker 2:Okay, and I was sort of going to Yeah, i like that as well.
Speaker 1:I also had to re-watch and I never got around to it out of sight because I know that you and Neil would be very disappointed if I had watched it again. I expect it to be Neil's list highly Me even be yours. And I do genuinely love out of sight The other film I was going to watch again we're going to watch it last night but we went to a nice Thai restaurant Instead. It was basic instinct I was going to re-watch that.
Speaker 2:You must know that, well, you know a bit of it, really really well, orfally well, i guess. So that's it.
Speaker 1:So watch the load of those things, so things that define the 90s. What sort of big films, big films from the 90s, what can you think of?
Speaker 2:Well, i think it's. There were so many groundbreaking films. You know defining. Groundhog breaking sort of films Yes, yes, but in terms of like science fiction, you had Early on, you had Terminator 2, which was like Yeah, 91.
Speaker 1:Like Jump which, like, started with the abyss.
Speaker 2:It started with the abyss, yeah, and then just took it on And then you had, like the Matrix, which was a ground That was a big one, yeah, Yeah that was a, And then you had Toy Story coming in, which totally changed the way Graphics and animation was done. I think it was a rum old decade for like churning out sequels. There was a lot of that that went on, Like Speed 2, Cruise Control and there were about five children of the corn sequel.
Speaker 1:Speed was quite a big one in that time as well.
Speaker 2:Speed was a huge, huge moment as well. It was like 94.
Speaker 1:Absolute whopping era. The ones I thought about were The Matrix, Ghost, Pretty Woman, The Sixth Sense, Home Alone, Jurassic Park, Titanic.
Speaker 2:Jurassic Park was another massive step forward in terms of Wow, you can do that. Star.
Speaker 1:Wars Returned.
Speaker 2:Yes, it did.
Speaker 1:Right, you're wrongly.
Speaker 2:I saw that with Andrew Woods there. I mentioned you, andrew, there you go. Because Andrew Woods said, when I mentioned it last time, the Phantom Menace. When we talked about The Phantom Menace last time, i didn't mention that Andrew Woods was there. You were there and I rejoiced in every moment of it. Not so much the film because bits of the film.
Speaker 1:And who were the big directors around in the 90s? you think, Because I was thinking- Tarantino emerged Massively.
Speaker 2:Well, Spielberg had the best year anyone had in 1993. Which is astonishing to have those two.
Speaker 1:What a contrasting film He was editing. He did Jurassic.
Speaker 2:Park and Shimp List. One was filming the other and you think, oh my lord, and that's incredible. I mean he also had Jurassic, he also had Hook and Jurassic World, which wasn't so great, but he had Amistad, so it's pretty good for him overall.
Speaker 1:Same.
Speaker 2:Private Ryan was him as well. Yes, same Private Ryan, michael Mann, last time he was here, he and the Insider, that's three Belters. Oh yeah, yeah, i mean sort of the inside of the cinema Belters. Yes, we did Scorsese pretty good because obviously his start was amazing, but then he had Cundin and Bringing Out the Dead, which are probably lesser ones in my mind. Oh, yes, yes, but I would say Tarantino, obviously, the Co-Ins, millis Crossing, barton Fink, hudsucker, proxy, fargo, big Lebowski Co-Ins yeah, and Tim Burton I thought you did, absolutely Tim Burton.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Scissorhands, batman Returns, nightmare for Christmas, edward Mars Attack, sleepy Hollow All enjoyable. First thing, i saw all the elements in my head.
Speaker 1:I've got here Tim Burton, quintertown, tunex, spielberg and the Co-Ins. Yeah, there you go. There you go, very good, very good. What were your memories in the 90s growing up for cinema for you?
Speaker 2:Well, it was independence, freedom, the car.
Speaker 1:I had a car.
Speaker 2:I could go. I mean, i just kind of had started at the late 80s. Early 90s was like cinema, college, university, freedom Not that I was ever at a choke hold from my parents or whatever, but being out and independent.
Speaker 1:Well, you were tunnelling for years weren't you Long, long time. How many times had to cover, for you were singing those songs.
Speaker 2:That's why your voice is so beautiful. It covers me tunnelling with a small kitchen fork.
Speaker 1:You had to replace that fork every evening.
Speaker 2:Every evening so that we could have dinner, because at the moment that only lets us have enough for one.
Speaker 1:Trottle.
Speaker 2:Finding I could sleep in was a great thing. As a student. it's like a little bit of studenting and a lot of sleeping in and a lot of free time. So there was a lot of cinema. I learned that I could seep in like some sort of slow-moot burning virus with women In terms of I'm not a hot burn within five seconds of like wow, look at that guy. You've got that I don't have, that I have to seep in. I have to find other ways to sort of.
Speaker 1:Manipulate, manipulate. At the time, i have to find new and amusing ways to trick them.
Speaker 2:I learned to cook Damien Samuels, a friend of his, who used to laugh because I didn't know. I had to ask him how to do a jacket potato when I lived with him.
Speaker 1:Damien is a very good cook.
Speaker 2:And I've developed into a decent cook now. Back then as a student I lived off finger rolls and beans on toast Right.
Speaker 1:Finger rolls, not together, though.
Speaker 2:Well, sometimes you could dip the finger roll in beans and toast, but I think I watched more films in this decade than any other Cinema, you know. Yeah, there was the rise of the internet And that's all been smooth sailing ever since. So that was basically my nine. That's what.
Speaker 1:I think. Okay, so very similar. Obviously you're older than me, but cinema was huge for me because I came of age Yeah, and I would have been when 1990 turned up. I would have been 14. So I watched. So I became a young adult. During the nineties I had a car, my friends had cars. We used to go and see loads of films at the cinema because you suddenly had that avenue out for you Yeah. Whereas before, most of the time, we'd go to the film with family.
Speaker 2:And I never, did never see them. No, in the nineties we had to go to the bathing stay. Yeah, yeah, the outside, sometimes Salisbury, but mostly Basin's Yeah.
Speaker 1:I used to go to. I used to do double headers sometimes, Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'd do that.
Speaker 1:In the Odeon at Salisbury and sometimes at the Basin's. Yeah, i saw some rum, old stuff which might come up again As part of a double header. Yeah, So, yeah, so my sort of cinema, i mean my first ever 18 film, was in the nineties. I was seven. The first film I ever watched where someone said the F word in it was days of thunder from 1990.
Speaker 2:Was it Randy Cray? That was Randy.
Speaker 1:Cray Yeah.
Speaker 2:But that was all these sort of milestones.
Speaker 1:I think it's affected him more than it's affected you. That is a loony, but all these sort of milestones that you sort of get through in your life, they all happened in the nineties and cinema was wonderful for me.
Speaker 1:for that, you could see, i saw so many films that I probably wouldn't have done now. I mean now let's talk about now. it takes a lot to get me out to the cinema because I don't want to waste my money and films are so long And I just feel like it takes a lot for me to go out.
Speaker 2:I went last night because I was here for this this morning and it's Indiana Jones And I feel like, whatever they churn out, he's earned the right for me to pay, because the joy he's given me over the years And the last two, like the one before that, was Top Gun Maverick for the podcast The one before that was Bond. No, it was West Coast Story for the podcast. Oh, yes, west Coast Story, and you think, yeah, it takes a lot. Now Get me out. I mean, it's 25, nica, just for me and Mum.
Speaker 2:Was it? Yeah, and they were uncomfortable seats.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean we've been going to the one in Basingstaff, shifting the one in the festival place because they see too, good, they were client and everything. We saw Avatar 2 there.
Speaker 2:You want a comfortable seat for a long. you know I was shifting along And they had cup holders.
Speaker 1:What were my elbows? Yeah, it's a stupid stuff. In fact, i rewatched. we went to the cinema last December to watch Batman Returns, which is from the 90s, and that was also about that cinema with the nice shiny things.
Speaker 3:It's just lovely Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think we saw a glass onion at that cinema as well. So once you go to that cinema and you feel like it's really nice, you sort of feel like actually it's nicer really. Because I haven't been to that in a day.
Speaker 2:No, it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So one of the things I did do was I needed to check what films were in the 90s because, I had originally on my long list. I had Spider-Man 2 and Heathers And I realised 88 Heathers, isn't it? 89 or 88, yeah, and Spider-Man 2 is like 2003 or 2004. So, but I had to take them off because I realised, oh no, they're not the 90s.
Speaker 2:I had to look up a couple because you think some of them just feel I don't know That whole era. I feel like I can't place. I can place some things incredibly accurately and other things really. I was like then And so I had to double check. Thank God for Google.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah, that's what he's for. So we both saw a ton of films at the cinema.
Speaker 2:Yeah, massively.
Speaker 1:We saw some particular ones, because there's not a list of all of them.
Speaker 2:We've done a lovely episode on our favourite cinema films, but I'm going to tell you things that I remember that are specific. I remember the silence at the end of Shindor's List, absolute silence. Okay, people just all, all struck, gobsmacked, couldn't speak, yeah. We just sat there. That happened at the end of Unforgiven as well.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And it was like wow, the end, And I can remember so vividly that.
Speaker 1:Well, let the silence in the cinema go. I was with you on this one. We're in the in Saving Private Run on the staircase. Oh yeah, There was a silence on that.
Speaker 2:Apart from Our Father, punctuated by Our Father, said Swore You said the naughtiest word, the naughtiest word imaginable out loud through sheer frustration at Uppam who was stood on the stairs. But it really did.
Speaker 1:I'm sure everyone in the in the cinema at the time was thinking the same thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he voiced what everyone was thinking I mean, it's all. that's one of them shocking moments in the history of cinema that that bell tower Again.
Speaker 1:we might get back to that.
Speaker 2:I mean, but he wouldn't leave Chandler's apartment. So I mean that's what he deserved.
Speaker 3:Oh that's right. He really, really, really really.
Speaker 2:Watch. I remember that watching that last six minutes of Last of Mohicans for the first time.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, that was the last genius in it Staggering.
Speaker 2:I remember the sound of the gunbattle in hate.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's amazing Watching that It was so raw on it.
Speaker 2:Brilliant. I remember we had to walk from partly to more like with Derek, my friend Derek, our friend Derek, actually to get to, to walk home, because he needed to get seven out of his system, because he was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right He was quite nervous.
Speaker 2:Cinema Go on.
Speaker 1:That's where he shoots him in the in the in the apartment corridor Really makes you jump, doesn't it? Totally made me jump? the bit in Jurassic Park I told you before where it changes. A scene changes and you get to the, it's in a normal bit and then they go to the velociraptor enclosure and there's this sort of sort of noise on the electricity So many minutes And everyone jumped in the cinema.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i can't do the bit I'm going to do. I'm going to set it up. I think I said it before. James Kirby sat behind a well to do man with his family when Jurassic Park and when the velociraptor burst through the side. Now imagine the worst word in the world. I think you know what it begins with Yes, it's a four letter word, yes. He jumped up suddenly and went whoa, yeah. And then said that, screamed that word And then just looked around and everyone I mean it was a brilliant moment And the most well to do man you could imagine jumped up and screamed when that. So we were all like totally into Jurassic Park. Was it Well, again one of those event things that we, yes, we all had to see it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you had to see them all the months probably. I remember the joy of much to do about nothing. Yeah, it was wonderful, i remember.
Speaker 1:James.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a game with James Kirby. with the exhilaration of Pulp Fiction, i remember seeing JFK three times in a week, three hours long. Yeah, I remember the unexpected treat on a winter's night going to see sneakers.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see This is true for loved sneakers. You too midnight.
Speaker 2:Well, that was a great moment.
Speaker 1:Oh, how beautiful Sydney. It was wonderful.
Speaker 2:Couple of beautiful people there, sydney. I mean they were getting old, but Sydney, probably Robert Refford Beautiful and River Phoenix beautiful looking.
Speaker 1:No, of course, Good cast And Dan at.
Speaker 2:Croyd David Stratham.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mary McDonald, yeah, ben Kingsley Ben.
Speaker 2:Kingsley Yes, obviously, i was a film reviewer for The Times. Oh yes, damien, sam was well.
Speaker 1:Any particular memorable ones, you Burkage was the one I really love.
Speaker 2:I saw that I think I said before Damien Sam was got on the poster for Richard the third because he put entertaining explosive. He knew how to use language in a short, punchy prose style that actually gets you onto a poster and he got onto the poster. Lovely, i watched Yeah, we watched some absolute toilet in there as well, but it was, that was a fun time. Yeah, just be doing that for like two, three months. I remember like I reviewed Tin Cup for the local paper as well which I enjoyed seeing out of the cinema.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, that's in my two.
Speaker 2:And then when I tell you this film that I really love to watch, i'll tell you that on the DVD it says next to. it says, yeah, what it says about what it's what's contains next to the DVD of this film. It says three words. It says violence, frequent, strong, gory. What film do you think that is? And I find it hilarious And oh. Starship Troopers. Starship Troopers saw that because I used to go to the cinema. every week I used to drive from Andover to London to go to cinema with Jimmy and Nigel.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we'd go. We saw, like LA Confidential, which was amazing.
Speaker 1:That was a great film, big.
Speaker 2:Lebowski.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Amazing and totally loved Starship Troopers with his bonkers Brilliant It's a satire of right The right at the same time as being incredibly entertaining. So they were the things that sort of I will single out. I could have singled out another.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Yeah. So for me, I just rattle them off. Batman Returns, Terminator 2, Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, LA Confidential 7, While You Were Sleeping, The Truman Show, Aladdin Bo Finger Joe versus the Volcano.
Speaker 2:I remember what I said. Yeah, bo Finger Damien and I again watching that. the most At most I've laughed.
Speaker 1:Same as me.
Speaker 2:I was with Neil. I think the whole cinema fake Perth Ninjas. I kept laughing for the whole way through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, true Lies. 12 Monkeys, the American President from Dusty or Dawn, which was such a bizarre experience. Four weddings in a funeral, the hunt for it October. Die hard with a vengeance, much to do about nothing. A lot of those were with either you, neil or Daggett. It's funny because you find different cinema buddies.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean In terms of like when I was just started I went out with one of the three best friends that I have and sort of break it to any of you if you're not in this John Simmons, james Kirby, cliff Hunt. I have been to the cinema with John a few times when we were younger Kerbs quite a few kerbs most, and Cliff once ever to see Alan Partridge out for Papa once. I can't believe he went out, But you find like I used to go like with Anthony Wolb, a friend of called Anthony Wolbank, and then whoever was driving and Paul Clark and people like that, and and then later on it was Damien and Tim. When I was at university it was Damien and Tim and Nigel a little bit.
Speaker 2:Then later on, when I left, it was Nigel and Jimmy. And then you find people that that's my My cinema buddy of the moment. Yours was always been Neil, since well.
Speaker 1:And then when I did a lot of double headers it was a chap called Stacey Close used to come out. I used to go with a lot And that's politically to Salisbury. That was a train drive.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't drive the train, i just I was on it, and so what were big genres, do you think, in the 90s? You've already said, even though it's a genre, the, i think, sequels of rub.
Speaker 2:Yeah, science fiction definitely just took it to the absolute next level Terminator 2, Jurassic Park, The Matrix, Earth Street, groundbreaking things, I mean. So that's like that's just moved everything on massively. Western's had a little revival.
Speaker 1:It does, it does, it does. And I'm thinking that quick in the dead.
Speaker 2:But I would probably say gangster. Ok, good fellas. Bronx Tale, miller's Crossing, donnie Brasco, analyze This Pulp Fiction Casino lesser Godfather 3. I mean, even Stakers is a bit about the mob as well. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think I was going to I was going to rewatch the Godfather 3, but I didn't get around to it. It's got moments I do think, when I remember watching it, i thought it was nowhere near as bad.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. In fact, it's a very good film, Yeah it's just her really. Yeah, it's still got me. It's still got normally a best picture that it did And I think it was really good And I see it's terrific, yeah, so so I think there are, because the other two are so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it makes it look like it's rubbish And it's not rubbish. It's good People bring some of that going into last night.
Speaker 2:People you've been reading, i've been people bring so much baggage what they expect the earth from something because of previous incarnations or whatever, and just don't. I think it hampers enjoyment quite a lot of the time.
Speaker 1:It can, i think. I think expectation spoils things. Yeah, i was saying this to Helen the other day, right What I realized I was doing. Sometimes I'm would be a concert and say I hadn't seen them before. So I'm D Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was.
Speaker 1:I will think in my head about the song was the one to play, yeah, and if they don't play them, yeah it. It spoils it for me a little bit. And then I realized the week I was talking about this And then I realized I'm not. I should just be enjoying the songs and the music. What I'm thinking of is what I played that one. They haven't played those.
Speaker 2:I'm waiting for this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and it's almost like as a checklist, and I was allowing that to take over the actual experience of the time. Yeah, yeah, if I'm going to see someone I've seen a lot of I don't care because I've probably seen these or heard these songs before, it doesn't matter. But if I was going to see someone for the first time, there would be certain songs that I think if they don't play them it's going to taint it a little. When I saw And I think that's the wrong attitude.
Speaker 2:Whenever I've seen Bob, i mean, and he's been really good and he's been really bad, i mean but I spent so much time thinking is he going to play this?
Speaker 1:Yeah Well.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's already. I know that. Well, why is he playing this? And I'm questioning all the time?
Speaker 1:I think just relax and listen to it, and that's what I think I wasn't doing. You have a certain expectation and then you measure it against it with no reason at all. You haven't spoken to the person, you haven't spoken to Bob and say, bob, i want these 10, mate right. And then at the end of it he's played seven. He said, bob, we had a deal. Now you've ruined this for me, bob, there's three. I tell you what I tell you what?
Speaker 2:because I went to see James a long, long time ago.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And I didn't really know James that much I knew Sit Down.
Speaker 1:Yes And Laid. I didn't really know Laid at the time. I didn't know Laid. This is the thing.
Speaker 2:And I spent the whole time going what, what are they going to play, what are they going to play? Sit Down, yeah, and I knew Star. And then I said what? they kind of. they played it right at the end And I kind of threw it away. And I realized afterwards that, like a couple of years later, when I loved Laid, they played Laid and I kind of just like sat there going what are they going to play? Sit Down, and I kind of not enjoyed a song that is now my absolute favourite by them.
Speaker 1:Laid. yeah, Yeah. Laid is a world class song. I wouldn't try it on karaoke.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's some rude old lyrics though, when you Oh, i know, I know We can't, we won't get into that.
Speaker 1:So for me, this sort of genre I was sort of going for would be romance, because I had ghost, pretty woman I had while you were sleeping sleepless in Seattle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so these weren't these weren't such a romantic comedy. Even Groundhog Day is as well, you know. Yes, you could say that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The other things, though and these were big deals was Pixar changed the game?
Speaker 2:totally.
Speaker 1:And also the complete Renaissance resurgence, if you like, of Disney, because Disney totally because they were they were pretty much in the doldrums in the 80s and then the little mermaid come out 89. And then in the 90s bang. I mean four or probably three or four of their biggest ones now were in the 90s. Aladdin is a lot of muting the beast And the Lion King.
Speaker 2:I mean, these were just massive films.
Speaker 1:I mean, these are films that they can, they live off now, and they all came in, one after the other, in the 90s It still sounds like crazy. Yes, well, and the show is The Lion King. Have you seen it?
Speaker 2:No. No no no, because I don't, i don't know, i don't Can't remortgage.
Speaker 1:No, no, i don't know, i don't know your fans anyway, I'm going to the Brilliant. I just thought I'm going to the Royal Opera House in the end of next. In this month, No towards in this one. What are you going to see? The marriage of Figaro, Oh lovely. I know a few other tunes in that one I'm going with friend of the show, Charlie McCoy, who's also into opera.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, really important to that, although there's a train strike apparently yesterday We were talking about it, so we'd have to find out how we're going to get there. But yeah, so I'm going to the opera to see the marriage of Figaro. So I'll tell you what it's like Well, yeah, so talking of songs, yeah Well, i think it's a toughish quiz for you, this one, oh God.
Speaker 2:OK, so I thought you were going to ask me about my favorite songs for a sec. No, it's one.
Speaker 1:No, that's not. That's an easy quiz because you could say anything. I love that.
Speaker 3:Unless I've got a sealed envelope. Yeah or the end.
Speaker 2:What a moment that was. I don't have a sealed envelope. OK.
Speaker 1:What I do have, though, is this is the prize which no one else can see.
Speaker 2:It is a That is amazing, isn't it? It is a beautiful Right. So that is, that is the prize. Is it one way you it's a car. Is it one where you pull it back and it go? oh, you push it down, there it goes. That's, that's got some Right now stop now, car Stop.
Speaker 1:That looks like it goes quite quick. Stop now. Oh, I thought it was stopping.
Speaker 2:It did. That was just one quick pump And it looked like it would have gone on One quick pump.
Speaker 1:That sounds like me.
Speaker 2:That's my entire college life And that was always when I was alone.
Speaker 1:Always, yeah, never stop. So You need to tell me eight of the ten. It's hard. Oh that one best original song in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Oh God, oh well. Some of them will be easier than others. Original song in the well, disney had had a monopoly.
Speaker 1:They did. They had a few. They had a few.
Speaker 2:So can you feel the love tonight?
Speaker 1:Yes, 94. I'm going to do the year, i will do the years, but that's obviously from the Lion King, a whole new world. Yes, so that is Aladdin. That was definitely 92.
Speaker 2:So why do we have in the 90s Oh streets of Philadelphia?
Speaker 1:Yes, Bruce from 1993s Philadelphia Up against Neil as well.
Speaker 2:He was. That was on telly. this morning, when I got that from the run, what was?
Speaker 1:on telly this morning. Philadelphia on Scully. Oh, that's right. That's a bit weird to put on that time of the day, Yeah yeah, so a little mermaid would have won.
Speaker 2:That would have been under the sea, would it?
Speaker 1:But no, that. Well, that would Yes, But that was 89.
Speaker 2:89, yeah, so Streets of Philadelphia, can you? So? Pocahontas was in there. That was Colors of the Wind, that's right. How did you? get that one, Because I know that Disney won every year for a while pretty much.
Speaker 1:They didn't, but they won quite a few.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, like for about a four year period. It was like because I feel Colin's one for Tarzan. He did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what was that? Do you know what that was? I'll give it to you, because you don't, you'll be in my heart. You're well done, blimey. I don't know if you go By, george, what a memory Um you'll be in my heart.
Speaker 2:You don't need to.
Speaker 1:You don't need to tell me the song if you don't know it.
Speaker 2:Titanic, titanic, yes, my heart will go on, celine Dion Don't know One two, three, four, five, six you've got.
Speaker 1:So you've got two from the same person, which is interesting, as in the, not the person who won the Oscar because she didn't write them, but she sang two songs that won best original song at the Oscars in the 90s.
Speaker 2:It's very interesting.
Speaker 1:What another whopping Disney.
Speaker 2:So I've done Lion King, and then Aladdin, oh, beauty and the Beast. Yeah, one from that.
Speaker 1:Ninety one.
Speaker 2:So I'd have given it to be our guest, but I don't think it didn't.
Speaker 1:No, no, it was nominated, was it?
Speaker 2:Beauty and the Beast. It was.
Speaker 1:Beauty and the Beast, the actual title song. One So then I was in Oh, three, four, five, six seven You'd won for a full house. Oh God, that's my bad, obviously my.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, um Evita. Yes, obviously, so there's only one. There's only one new song in Evita because obviously they do that thing where they would just write a new song Yes, otherwise it doesn't count. Otherwise it doesn't count. Yeah, everyone started doing that, like John won wrote a new song. It's all just like to get to get.
Speaker 1:Otherwise you can't get a best original song.
Speaker 2:Can you and Les Mis even did that as well, didn't they?
Speaker 1:Yes, they did. Yeah, What's?
Speaker 2:it called Oh it was, Oh it was, It wasn't.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've gone to town, i just thought I did the impression. No, it was. You must love me. Yeah, yeah, you must love me. So, madonna, ok, i don't win the Oscar. Obviously, it was Um Angelou Webber And I don't know if I know Tim. Reister in it, then I think he was probably doing it. Yeah, probably Because he co won, obviously, for Can you feel the love tonight? Because he did.
Speaker 2:Yes, he did it with John. Ok, I don't think.
Speaker 1:I can, i think, I've run dry.
Speaker 2:You've got eight, haven't you?
Speaker 1:So what have I missed? Five, six, seven, eight. So the hardest one was The Prince of Egypt, which isn't a Disney.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't know that. What's the song called?
Speaker 1:It's called When You Believe Right. Um, I don't know that at all. The other one, though, um also Madonna. It was Sooner or Later from Dick Tracy.
Speaker 2:Dick Tracy. That's all Dick Tracy. That's all Dick.
Speaker 1:Tracy Um.
Speaker 2:So One of our cracking porn titles that we came up with.
Speaker 1:Yes for one of our, for the Commando performance Yes. So what was your favorite Bond? Well done. By the way, you have this nice charming car, Oh I've got the car.
Speaker 2:I forgot about that. You've won the car I was doing it just for pride.
Speaker 1:I can't believe you've actually won a quiz. Press and go. You've won a quiz for a car. Well done, i'll put it next to the ball that.
Speaker 2:I won. Yeah, so you've just got. I love that.
Speaker 1:Well done, mate, That's. that's by far the biggest prize I've ever given out on this show.
Speaker 2:It is massive.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite Bond film of the 90s? Because there was a resurgence, there wasn't there.
Speaker 2:Because there was a hiatus from I mean yeah, it was first time in a while, yeah, Because wasn't it 95?
Speaker 1:It was gold, yeah, and they whacked the.
Speaker 2:Walnut. They whacked three in a short time, didn't they?
Speaker 1:89 was licensed to kill. And then there were six years Gold.
Speaker 2:not because I love gold, not because I was just wanted Bond back, and but I think my favorite one is tomorrow. I ever died.
Speaker 1:Mine too.
Speaker 2:Mine too. Yeah, i think as a complete work. Yes, i like that one Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not. The opening, though of World is Not Enough, the one with the Millennium Dome.
Speaker 2:Oh great, I think that's a really good one. That's one of the best openings. That's one of my favorite. We've done an episode on Bond. You can listen to us. We have somewhere. Was it the seventh episode? The seventh episode?
Speaker 1:That was. I was by accident, by the way. I was gonna say it was, but it wasn't. It was actually. No, okay, it just happened to be around the time of the new film, wasn't?
Speaker 2:it. Yes, that was exactly.
Speaker 1:Now it was a really good decade, i think, for best picture at the Oscars.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was, it was.
Speaker 1:I mean when we did the 80s, it was pretty run. It was pretty run, it was okay. but the 90s and I know the year you're talking about- was 94. Hang on, so let me think about it. So quiz show four weddings in a funeral, shawshank, redemption, pulp Fiction, and the winner was Forrest Gump. That's right, it was a five minute quiz show.
Speaker 2:It was a great film. Chris has a great film, I mean, I think you know.
Speaker 1:So and I reckon I know what you're going to say, but I want you to tell me your favorite picture that won Best Picture in the 90s. So you've got a choice, so we've got, oh, i think, dances with wolves, science of the lambs, unforgiven Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, braveheart English Patient, titanic, shakespeare in Love and American Beauty. Yeah, i think you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say Yes, I do know what you're going to say. I'm going to say the same thing.
Speaker 1:Schindler's List? Oh, I didn't. What did you think? Unforgiven.
Speaker 2:No, schindler's List. Oh, schindler's List, i mean Unforgiven's amazing. Unforgiven any other decade would be, but Schindler's List. Schindler's List is genius. I have to go with it. I have to go with it.
Speaker 1:It's one of the great films.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's astonishing, yeah, astonishing.
Speaker 1:Lovely.
Speaker 2:I mean science of the lambs and dancing with wolves, Great Yeah.
Speaker 1:American Beauty. I love the English patient I think.
Speaker 3:I love the English patient.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, American Beauty was very good.
Speaker 2:I love Shakespeare in Love, great film, really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:I've only seen it once. I did think about possibly re-watching it, but I just had two minutes. I've been so busy Yeah. I'm so busy now What about music? Favorite album of the 90s. That's a tough one.
Speaker 2:It is a tough one because I was buying albums left from the centre.
Speaker 1:So exactly the same sort of thing about coming of age for cinema would have also been music, wouldn't it? Yeah Well, first thing I'm going to say I think it was in the 90s and 1991 was Brian Adams at the Wembley Arena?
Speaker 2:First guy I ever went to was quite late. For me It was REM Green World Tour Green.
Speaker 1:Yes, I thought you might be Love that.
Speaker 2:Anyway, albums A lot of these are like not, i don't know, They're not whoppers in terms of Doesn't have to be Right, these are ones that I mean. I mean this first one's a whopper, but this is bizarre because I don't own anything else by them. But I love this album, this is Depesh Mode.
Speaker 1:Depesh Mode, violator, violator, violator.
Speaker 2:I love, love, love.
Speaker 1:I don't own anything else by them. What's your favourite song from the album?
Speaker 2:Well, the kids love Personal Jesus because they go mad for it in the car.
Speaker 1:Do they.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Annabelle bangs her head all over the shop. We put it on to get ourselves going if we're having a tough old morning.
Speaker 1:Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2:I do love Policy of Truth, but I think I would go Are you going clean or enjoy the silence? No, no, no. I'm going to love and enjoy the silence.
Speaker 1:What's the first one? Your world.
Speaker 2:World in my eyes. World in my eyes yeah, brilliant song. Yeah, probably that. He's like Halo. Love that as well.
Speaker 1:But it's still not the one you're thinking of. No, it's a memorable song. I think it's I've named almost every song on this album now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i think I would go. Yeah, no, i think. that's it. I think I would go Well in my eyes, maybe. It's a great opener. Yeah, i mean I love, you know, waiting for the night. It's a lovely song, it cleans the great song, yeah, but I think that's what I would go with. I mean, and policy of truth, i always.
Speaker 1:So my favourite on the album is policy of truth. Yeah, because I love.
Speaker 2:I love that song.
Speaker 1:Never before is what you?
Speaker 2:swore the time before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a great song. Okay, my favourite album I know you haven't got yours yet, have you? Stranger in this Town in the 90s by Richie Sambora?
Speaker 2:Yes, i know yes, I knew you'd say that I've got like. Goodbye, Jumbo.
Speaker 1:Well-party.
Speaker 2:Well-party.
Speaker 1:Love that album so much Message in the box is I've got some great songs on it.
Speaker 2:Love Street, sweet Soul Dream. Yeah, it's brilliant. Is it Too Late? The Opener's Great Fuzzy by Grant Lee Buffalo.
Speaker 1:Tim Thornton knew Love Fuzzy.
Speaker 2:Tim Thornton knew I was going to say that because he That was how he defined my music taste, i think by my love of Grant Lee Buffalo's Fuzzy album, which I still love to stay. That 12-string guitar, it just makes you feel like you're on the road even when you're not Spilt Milk. By Jellyfish, best Side One. Brilliant, loved it. Time Out of Mine. By Bob, incredible comeback, don't Get Weird on Me, babe. By Lloyd Love that. I love the orchestral stuff in that, some beautiful stuff Out of Time. In Orchmak for the People To Bring You My Love. By PJ Harvey, actin' Baby The Benz on Radiohead.
Speaker 2:And Home by Hot House Flowers which I just loved listening to in the summer, So they were my albums. So what any other albums you got on yours?
Speaker 1:I just picked my favourite one. I just picked my favourite one, i don't know.
Speaker 2:I just did one, mate. I don't know what I'd pick out of that, but I picked the other songs that I Just a few songs I picked, like One Country by Midnight Oil, because I sing that like Babies by Pulp, tender by Blur And National Express by Divine Comedy.
Speaker 1:Those are songs that make me happy, it does. I'm just thinking of National Express. It does sort of make you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, they're songs that Mum and Dad got really into. Dad really loved Tender as a song he got into not long before he died And it was like he was driving along singing along to that, and I think that's nice Sharing moments with your family and singing makes you happy.
Speaker 1:Okay, so What about Act or Actresses from the 90s?
Speaker 3:What do?
Speaker 1:you think was the biggest one, your favourite one, or whatever.
Speaker 2:The Whoppers were doing some whopping work, shall we just say De Niro had good fellas, heat awakenings casino, a bronx tail and wag the dog's sleepers. Analysed this backdraft. Get rid of suspicion. Cape Fear in that decade.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you can't argue with that. I mean that's probably number one. But then you got like Anthony Hopkins was doing Science of the Lands, remains of the Day, shadowlands, then Howard's End of Nixon and Amistad, and he's brilliant in all of them. Hey well, cast of the Shackle. There you go. It's just that, because it made Andrew was laugh when I did his Quincy Adams from Amistad, take it home, right, gene Hackman. I have to mention Gene because I love Gene as a support player. Gene was on fire in the 90s.
Speaker 2:I mean unforgiven crimson tide, get shorty. He's hilarious in that. Why Erpy's great in the Fermi's, great in the bird gauge, is brilliant in the quick and the dead, and ants is general mandible. So Denzel, denzel, crimson tide, malcolm X, much ado. Devil in the Blue Dress, which is great. Hurricane, the Bone Collector, courage under Fire. He got game in Philadelphia. Yeah, they're my stars, i think.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I had. I also had Anthony Hopkins, Jim Carrey. Yeah, I thought emerged quite a bit.
Speaker 2:Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, yes, because she exploded in 1990. 1990 with Pretty Woman, and then she followed up with lots of big ones. I had it down to two. one was Jeff Bridges.
Speaker 2:I love it, obviously because Jeff did lots of great stuff, yeah, but the one I've one that's going to be in your tent, i'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:Maybe, but the one I'm going for is the one that, fortunately, you didn't mention, because if you'd have rattled off all these films out of that to cross out my quiz Right, So I've got 14 films that was done in the 1990s By By Tom Hanks. Oh, So I think, Tom was probably the biggest one in the 90s. I want you to name me. Let's go 11.
Speaker 2:Tom Hanks in the 90s. Well, let's start with his Oscar wins.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia.
Speaker 1:Yes And Forrest.
Speaker 2:Gump.
Speaker 1:Yes, 93, 94.
Speaker 2:The Green Mile which was on Telly last night. That's not in the 90s, is it? I thought it was 99. Oh, I've not got it down here. Oh, yes, I do.
Speaker 1:Yes, i've got the end, paul Edgecombe, Yes.
Speaker 2:I do have it, paul Edgecombe.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I've been drinking.
Speaker 2:So you're right, that's three Apollo 13. Yes, 95.
Speaker 1:95. Toy Story Toy.
Speaker 2:Story yes, 95. When was Toy Story 2? 99.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:One, two, three, four, five, six, You've got another five. Saving Private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan Oh.
Speaker 2:Sleeper Sin Seattle and You've Got Mail. Sleeper Sin.
Speaker 1:Seattle and You've Got Mail.
Speaker 2:yes, film that I think is film that I like him in but I don't like. Oh yes, league of their.
Speaker 1:Own. There's no crying in baseball League of their Own League of their Own 92. One, two, three, four, You've got 10.
Speaker 2:All right, Right and right. Oh did he in that thing you do? I think he is.
Speaker 1:He is in that thing you do, he directed it.
Speaker 2:And obviously I was going to mention it as, like films, that was hyped and then failed.
Speaker 1:On Fire of the Vanities. On Fire of the Vanities, yeah, 1990. And also, what did?
Speaker 2:he have. Did he have Joe versus the Volcano? He did 1990.
Speaker 1:Yes, he was Joe. Is there anything else I've?
Speaker 2:got One more.
Speaker 1:92. I don't know the film myself.
Speaker 2:I can't think It'll be a lot of dead air.
Speaker 1:It's called Radio Flyer. No, i don't know. So that was 92. I don't know that, but you did well. You got 13 out of the 14. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a bit bizarre that I didn't write that down, because that's a lot of big good films.
Speaker 1:I was surprised, you see, when you were rattling off all the films you said of the big people. I was thinking, if you say Tom Hanks, you're going to say all these films. Well, i don't study it, you see.
Speaker 2:I don't like delve in, i just go off my head and I think Off me head. Off me head. I'm off me head. So I went like and I got the deniro and I thought that's it. So I looked it up.
Speaker 1:I was like well, let me add. But I mean, when you look at that though, when he really kicked off with say, you did actually sleep in since Seattle before you won the Oscar for Philadelphia. But then he went for us come Apollo 13, toy Story directed and was in that thing you do. But then, saving Private Ryan, you got mail. Toy Story 2 in the green mile, these are all.
Speaker 2:Another one of my favorites. I saw an interview that's popped up on YouTube with the actual people from Apollo 13, jim Lovell and Fred Hayes And they were there. He actually watched an interview. He actually watched the actual Jim Lovell. Kevin Costner is a dead ringer for him, so I know Hanks is great. It would be interesting if you were just going from an accurate visual. I look alike. He really has got Costner vibes, so this is tough.
Speaker 1:Favorite performance from the 90s.
Speaker 2:I'm good, we'll churn through them. Angela Bassett in What's Love Got To Do With It. Tina Turner We watched that the other night as well. I mean her and Fishburne. Fishburne, yeah, i mean, I still love the scene when she escapes with nothing And that hotel manager takes her in And he takes her in. It's such a tender little moment And she's fantastically totally think she's Tina Brilliant, John Cusack and the late great Alan Arkin, who died this week in Gross Point Blank.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's the psychiatrist, isn't he?
Speaker 2:You did think it, but you thought it, then you said it, i can't continue because I'm emotionally involved with you, because I'm afraid of you, and that constitutes an emotional involvement. He's great.
Speaker 3:Dan.
Speaker 1:Akroyd in the same film.
Speaker 2:Jan.
Speaker 3:Akroyd as well.
Speaker 2:Popcorn Yeah, brilliant. Jennifer Jason Leathers is a sort of out there one from Shortcuts. Have you ever seen Shortcuts? Yeah, she's a phone sex worker who's like a domestic. She has a like kids and a husband. And she's like just talking dirty on the phone while doing chores.
Speaker 1:Right, you know.
Speaker 2:And it's Chris Penn, is her husband in it And she's so good in it. Spacey Ann Benning in.
Speaker 1:American.
Speaker 2:Beauty Tom Cruise in Magnolia.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's wonderful. I'm just saying about a personal tragedy.
Speaker 2:Yes, Mickey D in Falling Down. Yes, nigel.
Speaker 1:Hawthorne in Manus, King George.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. she's a pen d'acid Francis McDormand in Fargo.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Jean Hackman in Unforgiven. Jean Hackman in Just About Anything, because I love the man. Diane Weist in Bullets Over Broad.
Speaker 1:No, she's really Dude speak.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gabriel Byrne in Millers Crossing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the most beaten up man in the history of cinema.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Ray Fiennes in Schinders List now talking about like like best picture that year in 1994, but best supporting actor the year.
Speaker 1:Ray Fiennes won.
Speaker 3:Oh, he didn't win, he was beaten by Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2:He was also up against Malkovich in Yes in the line of fire. Yeah, there's tremendous in that. Pete Pusselthwaite in In the Name of the Father is really great, and Leonardo DiCaprio, it's like bang in year for performances. Yeah. Robin Williams in Goodwill Hunting Yes. Gerald Depodger in Serano de Bergerac Was that 90s? Yeah, 1990.
Speaker 1:Ok, i know he sort of became big, like Green Card and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Towering. I mean love Serano de Bergerac.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alicia Silverstone in Clueless.
Speaker 1:Clueless yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm getting towards my top here. Yeah, nice Jeff Bridges in The Fisher King.
Speaker 1:Yes, jack, lucas Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I mean brilliant Martin Landau in Edward is one of the string my silver medal position. Lovely, because he is astonishing in that He is brilliant I mean and there's a lot of these people going on that Samuel L Jackson didn't win for Pulp Fiction and he is brilliant in Pulp Fiction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but my God, it's such a shame that Samuel L. Jackson was nominated at the same year Yeah, because Landau.
Speaker 2:Landau, as Bella Lagosi is just one of the It's that staggering performance, especially if you just see him in most other things he's done. It's just chameleonic.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, totally different. So, first and gold medalist.
Speaker 2:They're our joint gold medalists. Yep, it is Jeff Bridges and John Goodman in The Big Lebowski, with an honourable mention to Turo. Who's our fucking chester?
Speaker 3:For Jesus yeah.
Speaker 2:But I think Jeff Bridges, as the dude if we ever talk about it, is possibly my favourite leading man performance ever, because it is the most complex thing. He is a. He's a fireball. He's a fireball of rage Masquerading as a man who is zen and cool and chilled. He's crossed so often. Cross so often, and mostly with John Goodman. John Goodman is such a brilliant antagonist to him. Yeah, he's just, and he is a ball of rage as well in a different way, just harboring so many, but totally put on by his ex.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah with a dog, yeah with a dog.
Speaker 2:Pomeranian.
Speaker 1:Pomeranian yeah, yeah And I, so you've given it to two.
Speaker 3:Yeah, lovely.
Speaker 1:So mine Mm-hmm. Bill Merri in Groundhog Day.
Speaker 2:Well, again, it's a stupendous.
Speaker 1:Alicia Silverstone included Love sure. Robin.
Speaker 3:Williams in Goodwill Hunter Yeah.
Speaker 1:Robin Williams, again as the genie in Aladdin.
Speaker 2:Again, sorry, I shouldn't have included that. He's amazing. I mean, that's probably the defining.
Speaker 1:That changed everything.
Speaker 2:That's the only time anyone's considered nominating somebody for a voice performance for an Oscar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a game change. Yeah, michael Keaton, in Much of You About Nothing.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, as Dogbury Dogbury.
Speaker 1:Anyone else who can fight himself away could play. Well, i know, because Ben King's also fought himself away. Oh.
Speaker 3:I had ran through Trevor.
Speaker 1:Slattery.
Speaker 2:Trevor Slattery. Oh, I love that Yeah.
Speaker 1:John Chaturou's Jesus.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Jack Lucas, which is obviously Jeff Bridges in The Fisher King.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I will point you to the name in bold for my number one Walter and the Doom.
Speaker 2:I've given it to two people.
Speaker 1:And I've given it to Jeff Bridges and John Goodman for the Big Lebel. You kept a brilliant poker face when I announced that I do, i know, i know You've done that in Vegas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you did that when I In that epic envelope challenge.
Speaker 1:The envelope game Where I came from.
Speaker 2:Barbara Windsor from Carry on Spying. You just gave me nothing in the eyes.
Speaker 1:And it's funny, though you've said the same thing, you've given it to those two.
Speaker 2:No, actually, that we are deep into Episode 25 together because of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's sort of a relationship we have. Favorite scene This is hard, this is hard too.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, i'm going to. I haven't picked a number one as such. Okay, just wrap them Right. I've talked about this before The King Lear scene, when he's really the King Lear from Madden's King George.
Speaker 1:I've talked about it before.
Speaker 2:Go to our best scenes there. I talked about that in depth. What's in your book Remains of the Day? Yes, i'm not. I know I'm laughing, it's not at all funny. It's brilliant. Remains of the Day, remains of what he's reading.
Speaker 1:Yes, with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson. Greatest bit of only acting imaginable.
Speaker 2:Along with De Niro's got two great bits of eye acting in Heat When he's driving away. In Heat when he's driving away and you just see in his eyes he's going to go for Wayne Grove. In Goodfellas, when he's at the bar smoking and you see in the sunshine of your love playing and you can see that he's going to kill people. But what's in your book is astonishing Emma Thompson and Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 1:It is amazing.
Speaker 2:The Cinemane sequence from Thomas Crown Affair The Heist at the End.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, we're wearing the bowler hat Cinemane by Yes.
Speaker 2:Where are you going to run to Nina Simone? That whole section Walking and Hopper True Remains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a fabulous scene.
Speaker 2:Always be closing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yes, we've got about that. Glenn, gary, glenn.
Speaker 2:Ross, glenn Gary, glenn Ross. I mean, i like Baldwin, that was written for the film, wasn't it? It was, yeah, it wasn't actually more than the play.
Speaker 1:God, it's just astounding. I love the start of it. He says are we all here? There's one missing. I'm going anyway.
Speaker 2:He absolutely kills. that, i mean, it's just brilliant.
Speaker 1:Because what I love about that scene the start of Glenn Gary, glenn Ross, is about salesman basically, and Alec Baldwin, if you haven't seen it, is a big, high-flying salesman who's really, really successful, but he's ruthless And he's basically going to give a speech to these people who aren't very good and they're struggling And he's basically saying you better sell these things or you're out. But what he does, which is, I think, is brilliant, is right at the start, and what he says to them, how he captures their attention, is exactly what he's doing to us as the audience. Because suddenly we sort of stopped doing blind. We were going to listen to this bloke.
Speaker 2:It's so, so good. Two bench scenes.
Speaker 1:The two, yeah, yeah, two bench scenes. Yes, Goodwill, hunting Goodwill.
Speaker 2:Hunting is a staggering piece of work. I think that's amazing, A staggering piece of work. Your move cheese. It sums up so much, so brilliantly. And the JFK exposition of Donald Sutherland. Donald Sutherland, yeah, is a fantastic, and that's how to do exposition.
Speaker 1:That is yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean it's just brilliant. I could have gone over a couple of moments. Look into your heart. I've gone Miller's Crossing, John Chuchiro on his knees. Oh yes yes, yes, in the woods. In the woods, yes, i mean just staggering The bank. Heist from Heat Yes, because let's face it. Omaha Beach, yes, from saving Robert Ryan, because again needs nothing said Visceral horror, the Copa. Cabana entrance from Goodfellas.
Speaker 1:Yes, so many master strokes in that, though, and is that the one where he goes through the back of the? Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:And Grand Central Station. Oh, fisher King, fisher King, yeah.
Speaker 1:The walls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do the dance, the romance, of that, yes, and you think, oh, it's just beautiful.
Speaker 1:It's also right then when you realize that's a Terry Gilligan film. Yes, absolutely right, because it had Billy Surface before.
Speaker 2:No, so they're the ones that sprung out.
Speaker 1:OK, lovely, so I've got. so I didn't count Omaha Beach, because I thought you were sort of a starved. It's not quite the starved, but it's sort of a starved.
Speaker 2:So I didn't count, have you written Donnie around your element, because you used to love that scene, maybe.
Speaker 1:I also, as a result of that, did not count the end six minutes of last of the Maheagans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's again.
Speaker 1:I've talked about that so many times Because well, it'll say it's a bit of a cheat.
Speaker 2:But you know, it's my favorite six minutes.
Speaker 1:So the goodwill hunting bench scene, donald Sutherland's day of. K's speech. The shootout in heat running across the freeway in Bowfinger.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I mean, you could have fake.
Speaker 2:Fake first Ninjas to that. Fake first Ninjas is the funniest scene I've ever seen, so I should have put that in.
Speaker 1:The remainder of the day. book scene The eye. The breakdown in Shadowlands.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Also Antoni Hopkins. That's amazing. That is incredible with a kid That is weeping on an epic level. The what I'd refer to as the worst death scene from Starship Troopers, Which is that When the book gets flicked into a load of them and then gets taken apart And it's just bits of him being flung into the air, the whole dog berry scene. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:From.
Speaker 3:Much of the.
Speaker 1:Airbite, nothing But I had down to two.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 1:One was, quite frankly, I've forgotten about the Goodfathers walking through the things I think I may have mentioned that in one of our previous podcast. So I had it down to the Big Lebowski. Donnie Euradionov The bowling chat ending in Donnie.
Speaker 2:Euradionov Donnie, please Really tied the rim together.
Speaker 1:Or the scene in Basic Instinct And I'm sort of drawn to Basic Instinct But I'm going to go reluctantly with the bowling chat in Big Lebowski.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, it's still. Dialogue is so good, But.
Speaker 1:Basic Instinct is probably the silver medal there.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. But lovely. yes, There's a good piece of Go-Food. I can't do it.
Speaker 1:No, you can't do it. What happens?
Speaker 2:when you're a stranger in the air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's the wrong car. This is the Big Lebowski. It smashes up his plates. His kids, the Goodfathers car Yeah, you watching, don't it? This is what happens when you're a kid. It's the look they all give him when they're driving away, after the bloke's come out and smashed up his car And they've got nothing to do.
Speaker 2:So they're driving away all in silence And they all fart So many moments in that, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yes, it is. It's mad. How about least favorite scene, all least?
Speaker 2:favorite scene.
Speaker 1:And it could be like squeamish and much more. Well, I can't.
Speaker 2:I cannot watch the bell tower thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just can't. We're talking about saving Private Ryan. I think I've only seen it once.
Speaker 2:And I've seen it save my own quite a few times, but there's only two scenes.
Speaker 1:I can think of three actually now, because I'm now throwing the third one in, where I know that if it's scenes coming up, i will probably excuse myself.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:One of them is the shoe in.
Speaker 3:Oh car, yeah Who frame?
Speaker 2:was it Which isn't from the 90s? I'm just mentioning it Blatant murder.
Speaker 1:That is murder.
Speaker 2:He's a beautiful shoe as well.
Speaker 1:He seems like a jolly little child. How do they let him get away with that? But two of them are also in this. One is the bell tower knife scene in the same place. The other one is the shower scene in the rock, the shower.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, i know you've all struggled with that. Yeah, I can't give that order.
Speaker 1:Yes, But the other two I've put down, and these are all scenes that I don't like. as nasty is the hobbling scene in Misery.
Speaker 2:That was on right. Our sister was watching that last night.
Speaker 1:That's funny because yesterday when I went and saw her, they were watching Taken and I was there, she went for a bit of violence. I was there just as the scene was happening. Interesting.
Speaker 2:Really. I mean she mentioned her in performance as well. My god Performance from Kathy Bates in that.
Speaker 1:In Misery, yeah, I mean she's utterly unhinged. But the other scene I can't watch, which is completely out of nothing compared to the whole rest of the film, is the thumb cutting scene in the English patient.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's awful. Something about fingers I can't watch like that. I mean, it's not in that decade, but I can't watch the nails, fingernails in Siriana. Siriana yeah yeah, yeah, that's mean as well, yeah, something about fingers that just can't handle it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's something to do with a sort of permanent disfigurement. When it comes to torture that I have a real problem with Is that sort of nasty. It's not like you're getting punched in the face or whatever. I fold quite quickly. If you can cut things off, I think I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you where they are.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean what I really love, what I find who squeal? that's one of the things I really enjoyed about Brad Pitt's character in True Romance The fact that he was always drugged out. But twice villains came to their flat and he told them where they and he was quite, you know, he wasn't under any duress or anything, but they had weapons and stuff And because he told them, where all the people were they were looking for he survived each time On paper.
Speaker 2:There's hardly any dialogue in that. He's so good, it's such an underrated performance And he wasn't known then. Was he Because?
Speaker 1:obviously it was after Thelma and Louise And Thelma and Louise was 91. Yeah, i think so Definitely in the 90s, wasn't it? And of course he was the love interest there And that was sort of one of the first times you'd seen him.
Speaker 2:He was a guy called Cool World, and so he was still, you know, fudging about a little bit, and it wasn't until like 12 monkeys.
Speaker 3:Yes, he got Oscar and a bit for the 12 monkeys.
Speaker 1:And then seven, and then he was off to the races as they say, yes, he was yes, so any films that didn't do it for you, bigger films or just films that you could do.
Speaker 2:I mean, the worst film I reviewed was Kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i knew you'd Hate it, hate it.
Speaker 2:Squalid. I know it's what it's. I know what it's trying to say. It's like you're making such you know unlikable vile, just trying to shock people.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Didn't do it, Batman and Robin which. I have still only watched in sections. It's like the equivalent. It's like the equivalent, it's the cinematic opposite of the multi-Python's world.
Speaker 1:Funnest joke in the world, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't put it all together because it's just too too much for you. So I watch it in tiny little segments at different times And I think, oh Lord, just absolutely wonderful. Speed two, cruise control is cobbler's. Yes, stop, all my mom will shoot. I had the pleasure of seeing that one.
Speaker 1:It is utter cobbler's.
Speaker 2:He was, he was going to he swore something and bluffed him into that. You got it, Maya Arnold.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Showgirls I saw. I can't imagine why I wanted to watch showgirls.
Speaker 1:There must have been a reason, there must have been a few reasons, but it isn't at all titillating, is it? No, it's really crap, it's sort of it's not remotely. No, it's a very disappointing Yeah, and they're the films, i think that's sprung to mind the most for me, OK, so films that didn't do it for me, who were quite big ones, was Thelma and Louise Oh, i love the show, so I was never that fussed with it. Oh, i love it.
Speaker 2:Fight Club I was never in a fight club as much as it's heralded.
Speaker 1:Yes, i certainly don't. Yeah, it's all right. See, I'd prefer that in that decade I think.
Speaker 2:I really prefer the game. I love the game. The game very good. I love the game And that doesn't get the credit. It does no. Fight Club gets all the credit.
Speaker 1:The Lost World Jurassic Park. Oh yeah, really annoyed me. And one I do remember from the 90s which I can't understand. I can't watch. It is arachnophobia.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, i took you to the cinema to see that. No.
Speaker 1:I didn't. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I thought did you not see it?
Speaker 1:No, no, Did you see it, dave.
Speaker 2:Oh, because I went. I thought I went with you. I didn't go to the cinema, god no.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I was at home in the room that Ruby now lives in. Yeah, and I watched most of it through a mirror. I bless you. To the left of me. The screen was on the right and I watched a lot of it through the mirror on the left.
Speaker 2:The only good thing in that is John Goodman.
Speaker 1:He is in that And Julian Sands, he's died, isn't he? Yes, he died, I mean they thought he died a while ago, but they hadn't found him, had they? No, no, no, no. I was very sad as well. Yes, he was very sad. What about?
Speaker 2:It's a couple of overrated in there that I have talked about before, which both in the sport genre, I think, we talked about, and then which was League of their own which I didn't love anywhere near what everyone else, and Happy Gilmore, which in that period I was just finding his voices annoying.
Speaker 1:Yes, i think his characters were very annoying in that.
Speaker 2:But I watched a list of things to try and give you the job. My memory of people have. Worst rated films of the decade in terms of on IMDb. They blissed Yeah. And they had in there The Quick and the Dead, which I really enjoy, shallow Grave, which is really good, and Three Men and a Little Lady, which I enjoy.
Speaker 1:So I disagree with them on those. I don't like the whole what they stereotype the.
Speaker 3:English Oh, they totally do.
Speaker 2:But yeah, in Three Men and a Little Lady, but she's really good in it though.
Speaker 1:Oh Fiona.
Speaker 2:Fiona sure And Christopher Casanova's a beautiful smooth weasel, Beautiful smooth weasel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a good one.
Speaker 2:He's up there in weasels.
Speaker 1:So what about Absolute Balls? Have you got any?
Speaker 2:Well, kids, because you've mentioned the few of those right Kids and Batman are Robin and Absolute Balls. I mean, they are absolute, i mean Batman and Robin. I mean there was another film called Steel, which I've seen a bit of, which starts your kilo, neil. That is utterly terrible. And I spoke to our brother-in-law, lee, because they watch you know, they're the ones who watch Killer Sofa or whatever it is, and Shark Nado and all those utter toilet things, and he sent me a list of. In the 90s they had Children of the Corn two, three, four, five and six, six, six.
Speaker 3:So all in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Blair Witch, two critters, two, three and four. Dust Till Dawn two and three. Leprechaun two, three and four. It was like sequel, sequel, tastic. All of them Utterly crap. Diminishing returns And Tremors 2, tremors being an absolutely great movie.
Speaker 1:Tremors was good. Tremors is a great movie, tremors 2.
Speaker 2:And there was a film in the 90s apparently. He told me about a film called Killer Condom And one called A Nimphoid Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell and Godzilla v Space Godzilla. These are films. These are films that exist. How does it even meet each other? I don't know. I bought a vampire motorcycle where the motorcycle is out for revenge for something that's happening. Obviously, they thought Christine did quite well And Killer Condom I imagine it, does exactly what it says on the Put your right off, wouldn't? it On the sheath. But there you go.
Speaker 1:So I had, for absolute balls, bull's Eye.
Speaker 2:Come back to Randy Beggar And quite the worst American accent that Michael does in that.
Speaker 1:Spaced Invaders, which is a film I saw at the same time As a doubleheader. I think I may have seen it with Dick Tracy.
Speaker 2:I think the worst film I ever saw I didn't know if it was 89 or 90, was Repossessed. So that's in the absolute balls. I mean that's the only time I've thought about leaving.
Speaker 1:OK, was anyone from where? I've actually definitely wanted to leave And I did just go to the bog, even though I didn't even. But was Batman and Robin? Yes, i can't believe how bad that was And what it did.
Speaker 2:It destroyed everything Wasn't thinking in that decade as well. Event Horizon was that like it Could have been that decade, because that's another one Probably if it is.
Speaker 1:I've blocked it out. It's probably like 96 or 97 or something like that On Deadly Ground. Oh, mix getting a run out Yeah for Oh Mix in some right rubbish here.
Speaker 2:Well, you could make a few in that decade, didn't you? I saw that in the cinema as well.
Speaker 1:That was a doubleheader. So again we'd see There was a film you wanted to watch.
Speaker 2:And then there was a film we were filling the time with. You wouldn't want to go and watch that, just as the one reason you went to the cinema that day.
Speaker 1:Although I do remember we were late for that film. So we came in early, we missed the start And we were into the bar scene where there's always a scene in a Steven Seagal film where he beats up some bully. Yes, you know, yes, and that's where we got to in On Deadly Ground. We got to a bar scene where he beats up a bully.
Speaker 2:That's just a drop and paste that can't paste into any single one of his films.
Speaker 1:The bully was the big chap who ended up being all right in the bodyguard. Oh yeah, He was the original sort of her bodyguard.
Speaker 2:Oh, the one who's also in Miller's Crossing. He hits him in the face with his Hits him in the face With a chair. He goes, she's tough, she walks off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i wanted to give, though, some proper hate. I love that, because I really, really, really didn't like it because of one thing For the film House Sitter, oh, yes, I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, goldie Hall in that is the least likeable character And Goldie Hall in it's such a likeable character She is lovely, but she is horrible in that And she's just totally selfish.
Speaker 1:And the whole thing, the whole premise is that she comes in and moves into this nice new house that Steve Martin had built for his actual girlfriend, who then left him, didn't want to marry him Yes.
Speaker 1:But he always wanted her. And then Goldie Horn, who was some sort of weird con woman, drifted in, basically got into the house and then pretended that she was his wife or girlfriend or whatever, And Steve Martin was trying to react between the two. He was trying to still win over the other one and trying to stop Goldie Horn messing everything up. And then the inevitable usually happened And they fought for each other, but she was just totally horrible. And I just didn't understand the point of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i agree.
Speaker 1:It was so bad that I still remember that her character's name was Gwen. I'm not going to look up to find out, but I'm pretty damn sure her name was Gwen in House Sitter And it just made me so cross.
Speaker 3:And I was thinking why am I?
Speaker 1:watching this. Am I supposed to be enjoying this? Oh, do I think this is funny?
Speaker 2:If we're having a nice time, i never bring up House Sitter. Gwen, it's Gwen. Yes, it's Gwen Buckley.
Speaker 1:Gwen Get out of it, Gwen. So that was, yeah, that really didn't work, but yeah, house Sitter, yeah, ok. So what films missed the cut? This is going to be interesting For your top 10 films of the 19s.
Speaker 2:Well, this was tough. Now. This was so tough that when I did it, i looked at the 10, that's a good 10. And then I looked at what wasn't in the 10. I thought, no, that's wrong, that is just wrong. I've done it wrong. And every time then I'd swap the 10 over and the number 10. No, that's wrong, because I've still looked. These are the ones, these. I can't believe I've missed these out. Yeah Right, they've had love in previous episodes, so long.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so LA Confidential, yes, Which is genius. These are 10 out of 10ers. Jfk the Fisher King, grosspoint Blank, unforgiven Didn't get it Oh. I was surprised at that Heat Goodwill Hunting. Last of the Mohicans, clueless, the Big Lebowski which we've talked about You did put the Big Lebowski in his head.
Speaker 1:No, wow.
Speaker 2:Out of sight.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I got the vibe that you weren't putting it in when I mentioned it earlier. I bet Neil had it in there.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's this gentleman That's not even saying these things that we haven't even mentioned. I mean, like a little scene from a film called Coupe de Vil, which I loved. I mean The Vengeance which I loved, jerry Maguire, which is a good film. You know, bullets have a broad way True lies, the Matrix, madness, king, george, america, beauty, the same problem around Fargo, toy Story, there you go. All those didn't make it.
Speaker 1:Fargo didn't get it.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 3:I know why. Yes, i know what Fargo did I know why.
Speaker 1:And I also know why the Big Lebowski didn't get it Because there's something else that's going in, yes, fine. So at least that puts a little bit of I understand, a little bit more of the madness, right. So, ones that didn't make it for me Edward, toy Story, unforgiven, science of the Lambs, shindler's List, save and Private Ryan While You Were Sleeping, aladdin, the Truman Show, city Slickers, the Usual Suspects, true Lies, and then there was a five-way playoff for number 10.
Speaker 2:Yes, did you have an evening wear and swimwear section where they had to then tell you all their plans for?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, and the one that actually got in. Well, i'll tell you the four that didn't make it. You can get in. And I'll tell you two things about the one that did get into number 10. One is, it's going to be your number one, But number so the ones that didn't get in were much to do about nothing. Seven LA Confidential and Jurassic Park They were all fighting for number 10, along with good fellas, yeah, and I ended up going one way. Ok, so go for your 10, probably Number 10.
Speaker 2:Yes, ed Wood Yep, which I've always loved.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh, it's terrific, oh, i love it so much, And I think it's Burton was at his right peak, i think at that sort of time And it's.
Speaker 2:I love the style, I love the music, i love Landau's astounding in it, but all the support players, as he said, definitely chose One of the things, i think is really good is that, if you then watch things, because it's basically about a shockingly famous rubbish director.
Speaker 1:Properly rubbish Who made two particularly memorably horrible the rubbish films, one called Glenn or Glenda and one called Plan 9 for Matter Space. What is interesting is, after I've watched it, when you see some of the footage of some of those films, particularly Plan 9 for Matter Space, the actors look just like the people, totally I mean the big Swedish chap. I mean, this is a vampire.
Speaker 2:Bella Legosi, who played by Martin Landau. He was a drug addict And he was the formerly big star of silent Hollywood horror, and he was making this film because he befriended him. He died and he replaced him with his dentist or something, who was like a foot and a half taller. And looked nothing like him. So halfway through the film he just got another bloke And you think this can't be real. But it is real And it do a take.
Speaker 1:They just covered his face with a cloak, and you always do this as well, which is perfect.
Speaker 2:Like like Tor Johnson, who was a big wrestler, couldn't act to save his life, but he was a freakish guy, so he got him to be his sort of mongo type assistant. He walked into the door, frame set and the whole thing shook like it was like made of wood. He's like perfect Cut Nothing. Nothing was ever like oh, we'll do that again. It was like genius.
Speaker 2:You were so hairy as well, weren't you Totally hairy, With a very deep voice, very deep. So that, yeah, that's number 10 for me. Marvelous Number nine, serrano de Bergerac, which I thought I thought at the cinema, i thought it was beautiful. I mean, he's a downer, it's a great story. His central performance is mind-bogglingly good.
Speaker 1:It's the romance, the beauty of it, those sorts of films, i think they live and die on the main performance. If that main performance isn't amazing, the film isn't amazing. If it's poor, the film is very disappointing Because it's so lavish. It's a great set, it's a great scenery, the cinematography is wonderful, but if he is not the way he is in that film, that film goes down notches, doesn't it? Oh, massively.
Speaker 2:That is a bullet here, but also, when you think about it, it's Anthony Burgess. He wrote A Clockwork Orange, wrote the subtitles And he did the subtitles and translated it into rhyme, french rhyme, into English rhyme, and it's astonishing for you subtitling of adapting And you think but it's just epic and it's sweep, it looks amazing. The romance of it, the central story, it's just always been one of my. I mean, i haven't seen it for a while now but I used to watch it really quite regularly.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen it for a while now.
Speaker 2:I mean I put it on when I was, when I first went to university. I put it on because I had my massive TV. Whatever the TV license people come, we'd all run to the toilets without it And my TV was one of those big old TVs. It was massive, it weighed a ton. So I'd be sitting on the toilet with my TV while they said the TV license people here used to go around like wildfire. So I had a big TV and a video player and I used to put and I put that on because I thought it'd make me look deep, but I actually genuinely loved it.
Speaker 3:No it's funny, I like that Number eight.
Speaker 2:I couldn't not put this in because of how much I was gobsmacked by it when I first saw it, and that is the usual suspect.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And even when I know you know where it's going because you've seen it before, the joy of getting there is still brilliant. Oh, watch it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely brilliant, then you can watch it again and it's a different experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah totally different And again a wonderful ensemble.
Speaker 1:And you realise how clever it is when you watch it again.
Speaker 2:It's stupendous. yeah, cracks along as well. It's funny dramatic.
Speaker 1:Colloc is great in that.
Speaker 3:Colloc is brilliant. Yeah, i'd live that really.
Speaker 1:Well that would be great.
Speaker 2:Yeah with the coffers, You've got two more monkeys working around the clock on this brilliant And when you again on paper, del Toro's part is in that big Fenster.
Speaker 1:Just hilarious, genius.
Speaker 2:And the interaction between those. Kevin Pollock wants it, because obviously Stephen Baldwin's a bit of a loon now And he says they didn't get on at all. And Kevin Pollock said I'll tell you how good a film it is, stephen.
Speaker 1:Baldwin's good in it. That tells you how good it is.
Speaker 3:I think Pete.
Speaker 1:Porcelthwaite is really good as well.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Mr Loc Manus.
Speaker 3:That was right. That was right. Don't ever do it again.
Speaker 2:No, i can't do it. I can do it. Can I do it from a?
Speaker 3:Brastoff, oh Brastoff yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, she plays a lovely flugel. Orange juice Right.
Speaker 1:So that's great, it's also from the 90s, isn't it Brastoff?
Speaker 2:Yeah, i do love Brastoff as well. Seven, the Truman Show.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Which is absolutely brilliant. I mean brilliant. Peter Weir is a master, yep. The intricacy of that, i mean in terms of like, as we talked about in previous episodes, the incredible complexity of JFK in terms of putting that together as a director. But I think Truman Show is a magnificent achievement And what it says about everything the nature of TV, the nature of watching TV, the fickle nature of people.
Speaker 1:It's only more true now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more true by the more true man than And the performances are so good, they're a nature of playing God. You know Fred Tateyman and how you know Ed Harris is character Christoph. Yes, i just think it's. I think that is a masterpiece.
Speaker 1:The Truman Show, the more stand up. It's also a character called Mike Michelson.
Speaker 2:Mike Michelson Brilliant.
Speaker 1:Brilliant.
Speaker 2:Harry Shearer.
Speaker 1:Harry Shearer.
Speaker 2:Amnesia.
Speaker 1:Amnesia.
Speaker 2:Brilliant. So number six is the best comedy of the decade. I mean, I laughed a lot in Bo Finger and I loved Clueless and I love this and I love that Groundhog Day is the best comedy of the decade. in my opinion, Number six is Groundhog Day, which is, again, you can't fault any second of it, not one second of it. It doesn't out stay.
Speaker 1:it's welcome because it's very good as well, but it gives you the you get the impression he's been there years and years and years and years and years, didn't some I think there was some sort of someone did a study on it and they worked out, but I don't know if it's true or not, but it's been something like 36 years something like that Yeah, but again he without him anchoring it so brilliantly, and He does oh yeah yeah, he's never been better.
Speaker 2:Yeah and he's been good at a lot of things, but he's never been better than that. No and I think ground all days is perfect a romantic comedy and slash comedy As you can get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she's six, yes, six.
Speaker 2:so number ten for me is good for yes, which beat the other four in the reason why play off it.
Speaker 1:It did in the five-way playoff. The reason why it's I Two things. First of all, i felt I had to include it because it's brilliant. Yeah, it is. Having said that, i don't like it because it's not a nice film. No I don't mean it's not not nice fluffy rabbit film, so I can't watch those sorts of films, but it isn't very nice. The drug stuff onwards, it's. It changes, film changes, isn't it? because yeah, comes, more it comes. He's almost separate then now from the mob.
Speaker 2:Yeah, doing stuff. Yeah, i mean, he's unraveling massively and I find that. Difficult. In that section, though, you put banger off, the banger of tuning.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, The one. One of the helicopters following him jumping to the fire of nilson.
Speaker 2:Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do Yeah.
Speaker 1:But um, so I felt like I had to mean Joe Pesci's. That's just fine in it Yeah. Robert De Niro is amazing. Editing is brilliant. Oh, it's just.
Speaker 2:The narration is just first pitch perfect, because I generally think casino overnarrates.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, too many of them the right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's loads of narration.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, it's pitch, perfect the narration in good fellas.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be interesting contrast there, because I don't like casino at all Because it's the violence is so nasty.
Speaker 1:It's almost like, and I feel like Joe Pesci is way too over the top. But if violence is too much I don't want to see it. I fell out of love with Martin Scorsese in Cape Fear Because the violence in Cape Fear was a bit too much, or some of it was a bit too much. And then he did casino and it was like I can't come watching now and I still, to this day, haven't watched, even though I've got it and I must do it at some point. I've not watched Gangs of New York.
Speaker 2:That's very good.
Speaker 1:And I'm sure it is. I didn't come back to him until the departed. I saw that at the cinema, but there was a big period where I wouldn't watch Scorsese films because I just felt that he's too, he's too in my face now.
Speaker 2:Well, there was a scene in In I mean the one where they beat them to death with the baseball bats and the one with the device With all the vice.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's how there was another bit. It wasn't that bit that I thought. I thought he was being too indulgent. There's one where they chased the bloke into the house to kill him And you could hear the gunshot in the house if you wanted, and that's and I buy it that they're wiping out the people. But he then ran outside and you saw it close up, right in the front. I think You could have just heard the gunshot in the house. It's like now. It's like how many violent deaths can we give you?
Speaker 1:You don't need to Riserally and yes, so I do get that to a certain extent You don't need it, although I think one of the best beginnings to a film, particularly if you've not, if you don't know, you've never seen the film for and you're not sure what it's about. You get that whole bit with the, the car and he's in the boot, and then the shooting and whatever, and then the as far back as I can remember.
Speaker 1:And then the music kicks in, old Tony Bennett, tony Bennett starts and that you feel like, whoa right, i'm in this. Yeah, i know this. I'm no more preaching to the converted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you really are. Yeah, they are.
Speaker 1:All those bits. The film is absolutely genius. I just don't like it as much. I Haven't told Helen, because I bought it on 4k this week.
Speaker 2:So I've got it, i am. I conceived my first child. To what good we watch? good fellas, and Who was it?
Speaker 1:who had it away with? someone with that is Labanita. Who was? that That was Nigel Yeah.
Speaker 2:Viginity being lost. I think okay, which is you know pretty good going, because that's like that would have been 86 or 87. Hopefully. I mean if when I was first released it have only been 13, so you must have hopefully it was later on. They just been really listening to it on some classic radio station.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, so That, yes, so Claire places was Claire's team.
Speaker 2:One won a competition in cheerleading in Wales And she was gonna go home, but she was so boy and she came up over and she was feeling quite up and happy. Yeah, so if they hadn't won. So thanks to that team, i've got a daughter. There you go good fellas, good fellas and, and well, good fellas fit. We watched good fellas. It finished. That's a way for it to finish hang on, hang on go hang on easy.
Speaker 3:Easy zip that back up.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't like that and and then obviously then three minutes later, really twice three minutes later on, the untouchables came on Glory's night anyway. So yeah, so sorry. So anyway, your number nine.
Speaker 1:Number nine is bow finger. Magnificent that film. I still can't remember a film that made me laugh as much the first time I ever saw it as that I was laughing all the way through or it felt like it.
Speaker 2:You see, as I said earlier, groundhog days, i think the best but the funniest for me was that, because I just laughed, i mean in terms of how I laugh.
Speaker 1:It was also a relief for me, in a way. I love Steve Martin, i loved Eddie Murphy in his films, and they'd both done some talk recently, and they were both brilliant in this. Not just them, though.
Speaker 2:Christine Baranze is terrific, heather Graham.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they obviously Jerry Renfrow.
Speaker 2:Robert Downey Jr Yeah. Mind, mind mine, oh, terence Stamper. Terence Stamper, that was a. That was a Mickey take of some with Scientology, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:and yes, yeah, mind head mind.
Speaker 2:I'm welcome mind pal Let welcome to mind head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keep it together, even though I feel like I might ignite.
Speaker 2:Happy premise number three.
Speaker 1:It was just and also it hit home for us because this is the sort of thing that we would have. Yeah, they make you basically.
Speaker 2:That's why I had woods it made me.
Speaker 1:I love dodgy film.
Speaker 2:I'm like a whole idea is scratching around the edges of being good at something, and the people.
Speaker 1:Martin is a crap filmmaker.
Speaker 2:Oh he's, he made the Hugo story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he has no budget and he makes a film with people, with Eddie Murphy as a famous actor already, and he knows someone in the film who works as a janitor. Yeah, who's getting a camera, nick stuff, get him a camera in the film and things like that, and they basically make a film, a, without Eddie Murphy's character knowing knowing about it in the film and be none of the others, apart from his mate, who is the bloke at the works at the film industry.
Speaker 1:None of the others. No, it's not a real for me.
Speaker 2:There It's got also tough guys like you.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm fine as well, mister like the copper at the way grins when someone's doing something else and he's Back into the chubby rain. Chubby rain. Yeah, I've always loved the whole for the lighting. Yeah, oh yeah. Outside the bloke's got a silver big banner with will work for food.
Speaker 2:So many great moments as well, like the running across the freeway, as you say, is an amazing the dog Jason in the dog with the shoes on mum laughed so hard at that. But there's lines in it said at that moment we and when, i say we I mean me will be important. It's just brilliant about getting a FedEx, Yeah these, these really good seats.
Speaker 1:Oh, we say that.
Speaker 2:The premier the front left and it's shot this brilliant angle. The shows shows the screen. All could looking angle, they could be watching this film. I say that Damien Samuels and I went and watched that and laughed so hard and Half the audience was like half the ones were there for Eddie Murphy And it was like a total mix of cultures in there and it was we all just roared And yeah.
Speaker 1:I just love the way through I mean.
Speaker 1:Eddie Murphy playing two different characters, both very different characters. Well, one of my favorite through a lines is when, um, when it's the, the brother, um, who's Jeff an idiot? Um, he's not an idiot, he's just a normal person. But he's a bit silly, a bit slow, yeah, and because he looks a lot like his brother And he's gonna double as his brother. Quite often Steve Martin says to him Would you be willing to cut your hair? Yeah, and he says yes, but it's usually better if someone else does.
Speaker 2:Basic. Yeah, let's try it again, this time without the erection.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so that's so yeah, that's number number nine Profing Yeah, number eight is the short shrink redemption.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:One of the the big, big, big big film saw that on my birthday, did you which one? So this would be 94, 18, no no. I'm 18, then you'd be 21, 21. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2:I've another time. Susie took me to Leicester Square and we watched that and it was like I'd already read. I didn't read a lot. I don't read a lot. It's a short story, i'd read Rita Hayworth in the short show We'd ever on the holiday?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that book.
Speaker 2:Different seasons has got that in it and stand by me and It's a cracking little and I loved it. books, i knew about it. It was like so under the radar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, i didn't do.
Speaker 3:Well, it's amazing how word of mouth has changed absolutely.
Speaker 1:It did get nominated for lots of Oscars, including the best picture, didn't win anything but um, it's a, it's very powerful. It's a brilliant, in effect, almost love story between two inmates. There's this brilliant sense of injustice, there's a sense of how does he, how does he go to get out of this Horrible, brutal guards brilliant depiction of of resilience. Yes, but also for me. I did not Get the twist. When it happened, i did not see it coming, and when it did happen, i thought, oh my god.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I was really hooked in it. It was brilliant and then, then, when you see what he does and how it happened, you feel like that was so good. It's another film as well where you really want to see the villains get there, come up properly.
Speaker 2:Do you got love Clancy, as a Clancy is a?
Speaker 1:brilliant villain, clancy Brown. There's so many great scenes in it and and Wonderful narration, obviously.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's made his living.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was obviously big before then, but his voiceovers in sword-sank redemption as a Morgan Freeman has Earned him a lot of money over the years. Only totally, but it is um, it is a great film again and not a nice film.
Speaker 2:No good. I don't what. I can't watch the in beating up the fresh fish guy. Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, i struggle with that.
Speaker 1:So there's not. Yeah, it's nasty, but it is Incredible, very powerful film and, i'm sure, lots of people's favorites.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So that was number seven. Number no eight. That was number seven is Groundhog day.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We've talked about it. I think it's so clever. It's really well done. He, he, bill Murray sort of plays himself, in the sense of he's a sneery cynical bloke He's not a nice bloke, but how he changes is really really good. He's starting even things like you know, when he he catches the kid Who's?
Speaker 2:falling out of tree. You have never thanked me you know so.
Speaker 1:And he realizes after a while of Just being on a path of I can do anything. I'm just self-destruct or I can do anything. I need all this money goes through all of it starts to think about actually I can do, i can do good here, i can help this person, all that person dies today, or that person Well, it has a gets in trouble. Here I can stop that.
Speaker 2:Without getting off to a very deep thing behind it as well, and the fact that I mean we know somebody that's lost lost their life to the suicide and it's He kills himself many times, many times over, and then by the end He's totally. I mean, if that had worked he would never be where he is at the end, anything.
Speaker 1:That's it. That's what a great deep thought that is, and it's like It's.
Speaker 2:So you know, that's it. I know I mean you think where they could be now It's so tragic. It's so tragic and he gets that Second, third, fourth, fifth, because I mean so many ways anyway, you imagine he kills himself.
Speaker 1:But I said if any of those have been successful, yeah, that's it. He wouldn't have seen the light.
Speaker 2:Where you end up is It's the journey in it. I like that just came to me while sitting there. I was thinking, when you were explaining it so, so beautifully, that I actually thought that yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and you, we've already talked about it already Um anyway, it's a comedy.
Speaker 2:It's very funny.
Speaker 1:The thing that's changed, with a little sadness for me, is the fact that he fell out with how Ramis off this film for a long time. They only made it up when he never really did until right at the end, and it's such a shame considering, because obviously he's a bit of a.
Speaker 2:Power to keg, isn't he? he's a difficult man.
Speaker 1:He will do his improvisation And he'll. He'll just basically do what he wants, and it makes it difficult for everyone else and perhaps he kept.
Speaker 2:I don't think Lucy Lou and Richard Dreyfuss are not gonna be a lot of fun. Oh yeah at least I'm Richard Dreyfuss. Oh well, i know an astra in quick change. No it um. what about Bob Bob, which is another thing I didn't like?
Speaker 1:No, so yeah, it is. Um, it's a shame because they were really good friends and collaborators for a long time and that is He's his best work. Yes, that's how a Ramis is best. Yeah, it's such a shame that it sort of ended the way it did.
Speaker 2:Offset, because other things they've made are funny and good and, yeah, they're entertaining a bit cult status, but they're not Perfect like that. I mean it's like oh, you've got it, absolutely spot on there. There's no, there's no raggedy bits around the edges like you get in, like something was like. Stripes or whatever which are good or you know anything, but this is like oh, this is, this is absolutely the benchmark.
Speaker 1:It's so tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz you feel like you know there's no bit, they thought, well, if you just took that bit out Yeah, it's a bit baggy, he's not, it's, everything is there.
Speaker 2:It's like you know could be made by the phone like Billy Wilder. It's so perfect, it's like brilliantly done. I love Billy Wilder. Yeah, i love Billy Wilder.
Speaker 1:So that was number number six. By the way, that's the only film so far. That's in both unlist. So I think I listen to me really different because you're not gonna have this one either. Number five, no, no, number five, number six, number six, number six of me is the hunt for red October. I knew that's gonna be in yours, i knew there's.
Speaker 2:I Pick three. That I think as a kid.
Speaker 1:Well, they'll be there as a kid. I loved this film. Yeah, i saw it. The cinema I remember being it's 2010 minutes long, and the reason why I know that is because, 10 minutes in, we were in trouble in the Cinema because we were throwing Popcorn, my mates and I, mark Barton, who was three, three rows in front- of her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Was. I know. I don't know why I was being an idiot, but and so basically an usher had come over and And warned us twice, yeah, and in the second time they stayed there next to us on the road And we were on our final warning and we had like two hours. That's not why it's in my top ten you know I really love the claustrophobic nature of it.
Speaker 1:I really love at the pace of it, even though it's two hours long. There are so many really good characters in it, so many really good actors in it. How it changes from from Before he's on the shit on the submarine to when he's on the submarine. The characterization is brilliant. Sean's. I love Sean, even though you obviously he doesn't bother with an accent, but that doesn't matter doesn't at all interest me him curry. In it Tim Curry's, in it Sam Niels, in it Scott Glenn.
Speaker 2:Curry, sam Niels, a wonderful sort of loyal Second in command type Oh great, yeah, yeah, because he won't question him in front of anyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but at the same time, he will speak to him later on about, yeah, what did you do that?
Speaker 2:Um, I love all the bits on the American sub with the yes.
Speaker 3:Paganini Jones.
Speaker 2:Paganini with Jonesy. Yeah, Scott Glenn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um the emergency blow. It's a great film.
Speaker 2:I really, i really love, i really love it. I think still in stars, scars, guards in it as well. There's just kill an old friend We have to kill.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I remember in the cinema as well. He's definitely worth watching in the dark. That the real, when this torpedoes in the water with that, that sort of problem. Yeah, you're there Yeah and then, and you realize, on a submarine, if there's a torpedo in the water, there is no escape.
Speaker 2:If it hits you in.
Speaker 1:So um you're paying pressure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do it. Yeah, I'm paying always.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll stop at my impression of Sean Connery the day And I said my impression of Sean Connery actually isn't my impression of Sean Connery. My impression Sean Connery is Dave Scott's impression of Sean Connery when we go to the granary, although if I was doing my impression of Sean Connery and.
Speaker 2:I can't do it.
Speaker 1:I got a goldfinger when, i did all right, i always do. I used to do it from the rock. Yeah um, i can't say the last word because it's a rude word, but it's not a big word, but my, my impression of Sean Connery is Womack why am I not surprised you?
Speaker 2:piece of the great John Spencer. But yes, it is, he was really he was like almost a Sean Connery Amped up to 11 by then, because he would say, yeah, his voice was like, well, you're bashed.
Speaker 3:It really is, Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was doing just whining about their bash.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I was getting impression of someone doing him.
Speaker 2:But I always go with him like motion here. Goal finger, you look has just changed. I doubt very much the Miami Beach police when they get all kindly to what you're doing Not your head, not if you approve. Not good boy. So I was used to go with that, but I haven't done it for a long time I want. Once was Zardos for a night and got quite good at it, but I haven't really done it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, i mean. Another thing about that is the falling off a cliff of John McTeyanon. What a directory was. And then suddenly he got down then. Well then, also that suddenly make. Yeah, then he became a bit of crap afterwards as well. Made roll the rollerball, remake terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how's that?
Speaker 2:been made by the same man.
Speaker 1:Because he makes wonderful Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, suddenly was a drop. What were you I? think I finished oh right, so number five to one for you, number five, miller's crossing.
Speaker 1:Which, which I knew, you knew, i've been there. I thought might be a higher.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a good in my head, i've got at least two in there.
Speaker 2:It's a good five. Let me say, yeah, the dialogue is so good from the opening bit With him and him and Albert Finney Talking with John Palito when he's trying to take over the whole that, yeah, the hi hat, the whole, all of that. The Dane is a brilliant. They're a scene after seeing the Danny boy sequence. Yeah is a brilliant sequence, the whole power struggle And what he's still working for it, him and you think he's out there on the out on the edge and he's the brilliant I mean, but shamey's in it. And the incredible marshal gay hardens great. The dialogue crackles between him and marshal gay hard and it crackles like it's something from a howard hawks movie. You know it's brilliant, yeah, so, um, i think they went to that because they had They had writer's block during that, then went off and wrote Barton think And came back about because they wrote bottom think about having writer's block and came back. But that's that. That's their best one for me, i love it Yep.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Number four, for sure. shank redemption don't need to really talk about it. Had to include it because it's just Stupendous, yep.
Speaker 1:It's great for me Yeah number three, pulp fiction.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Now I think I mean I love Tarantino movies and I know, but in my mind, no matter what anyone says, like if they can say all they want, i love Django, oh, i love, i love and glorious, but this is the, this is the masterpiece, this has everything. I mean, it's a masterpiece. It stands in shoulders to me. It's just Glorious. You can drop in at any moment and go. This is gold, this is. I've got watch this bit, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh yeah, i just I just stay for this, right.
Speaker 2:Rachel's watching the other day. Well, i went round about a month or so ago and it was the marcellus Wallace butch Zed scene, right from the bit when He goes back for the watch, let's just. You don't draw breath that whole bit when he hits it in the car and he's walking across the car. It's just. And that's totally different from the joyous dialogue of Travolta and Samuel L Jackson and all that Shad Marvin and the Fate, all that bit. It's just brilliant And I think we've talked about it a lot. But there you go.
Speaker 3:Number two.
Speaker 2:Schindler's List. Yes, because I couldn't. Not, because I mean it's hard, it's a very tough watch, but that not to diminish it in any way, for in my mind It's worse because it's sort of what happened. I think it should be made compulsory to watch it. It is the music, the performances Liam needs to never have been never approached. the greatness of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, what about Taken Three?
Speaker 2:Well, I haven't yet.
Speaker 1:I imagine there's a Taken Three. I enjoy the Taken Two. There is a Taken Three. Taken A.
Speaker 2:We had Getting Even, two Getting Evener, but also, obviously, ray finds this tremendously horrid.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely Monster. Absolutely monster And terribly frightening because he's not a sort of caricature monster. He's a real person who does these atrocities And the last, but it gives you all that.
Speaker 2:That makes the last hour so astonishingly emotional. And I mean and the the lot, I cry a lot, Cry a lot, I don't know I have a heart of stone to watch that. When they all you can leave as men into that bit the bit when they all flock around him because he's going. I could have sold this to more people, i mean all that. And then when you see them just like rubbing the touch in the grave or all the people he saved coming out the end.
Speaker 1:And the real people as well. Yeah, the names are on the actual screen.
Speaker 2:Total journey into the horrific nature of it And it brings you out the other side with this incredibly emotional, wonderful needs to be done, needs to be told story, and it's um, yeah, had to be, it's probably good And had to be, had to be a bloody good film. Just beat it, which I think you know what that is.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:It is good fellas.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Which is not just because of a conceived child, but it's a masterpiece in every way The soundtrack, the look, the cinematography that, the use of slow motion, the use of narration, it cracks along as well, absolutely cracks.
Speaker 1:It covers a lot of years as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Funny in places. All the performances are absolutely pitch perfect, top notch. It is a masterpiece, and it is. It is his masterpiece, and that's saying something because he's made a few. Yeah, so that one, yeah.
Speaker 1:You didn't even mention the funny how scene.
Speaker 2:No, i mean what a scene that is. Yeah, I mean so many great scenes in it. Oh, the scene when he duffs over the bloke with the neighbor.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, with the pistol. Yeah, pistol whips him in front of his mates, just walks right up there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Brilliant. Lorraine Bracco is tremendous. It's a wonderful depiction of starting with nothing, getting involved, then going crazy with it with the power and the money and the excess And it all going wrong And it's done in a much more because they're much more real way like Godfather, they're all in mansions and they're all obviously rich and it's like dark. This is like people who just live above.
Speaker 1:You know they just live in houses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, They're not quite the foot soldiers, but they're not the top No but you know what, yeah, and just I find it so I've seen it so many times and I can watch it. I can watch it now, i won't because I'm in good mood. Okay, i've got it in 4K though. Yeah, that'll be good. Very nice, your 5.
Speaker 1:Number 5 is Clueless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i love it, and you know I love it. Totally charming, wonderful character, the greatest type of that type of film.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There is, It doesn't yeah, It's just, you couldn't beat that for that type of film. Dan Hadeh is brilliant.
Speaker 2:Lisa Silphson is brilliant.
Speaker 1:Paul Rudd's brilliant. She is so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lisa Silphs, though, is so good.
Speaker 1:It's. Is it Emma?
Speaker 3:That's the film, isn't it Yeah, yeah, emma, she's like a matchmaker, she's a matchmaker, but she's a very wealthy girl and sort of a bit spoils.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It looks down at certain people. She changes, obviously, But it's very funny. I mean the whole. If anything happens to her, I've got a 45 on a shovel.
Speaker 2:I don't know, i don't wanna miss you. Yeah, yeah, love Dan Hadeh.
Speaker 1:It's just so, so good. Brittany Murphy's very good, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She's dead now, isn't she? Brittany Murphy?
Speaker 2:And the ludicrous Looney Stacey Dash.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, Stacey Dash, No, no, no no, no, trumpie Biggid. Yeah, well, there's plenty of those, but And obviously what's up?
Speaker 2:man From Scrubbs. He's really good at the boyfriend.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yes, yes, he's the boyfriend. Yeah, love him.
Speaker 2:He's great, isn't he? They're all great little relationships, love them all. Yeah, perfect narration as well from her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's. If you've never seen it, have a go. It is lovely, lovely film, very good, very funny, well done, lots of people, wallace.
Speaker 3:Sean, haven't talked about him very good.
Speaker 1:Debates are terrific. Yeah, it does not say RSVP on the Statue of Living?
Speaker 3:It doesn't mean a. Thing.
Speaker 1:So that's a number five. Now, the top four are all films that will appear either in my top ten or my top 20. I don't know if they would.
Speaker 2:I've got no idea what they are.
Speaker 1:You probably know all four, yes, so you just don't know the order.
Speaker 2:I do not.
Speaker 1:That's the drama of this. Number four is Edward Scissorhands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i knew that was in there. That's art, see, i'm. yeah, i thought that would be high.
Speaker 1:The reason why it's not is that I don't think I've seen it for 20 odd years.
Speaker 2:That's not one I can watch over and over, because I find it, because it is distressing.
Speaker 1:I think I haven't seen it for at least 20 odd years.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, did I tell you I've now seen the first half an hour of Beetlejuice.
Speaker 3:Oh, i love Beetlejuice. I haven't seen it since 1989.
Speaker 1:He's so good in there I've got the first half an hour All right. I'm at the bit where Winona Ryder has gone up to the attic and she thinks that something's in there and she tried to get in but she couldn't, so it hasn't kicked in yet.
Speaker 2:I didn't know. Jeffrey Jones was in it.
Speaker 1:But anyway, that's an aside. But well, it is Burton which is why it came on. It was his hands, i remember. It's a bit like when I watched my favourite film, which is It Happened One.
Speaker 2:Night.
Speaker 1:I wasn't very well. I didn't get it. I was lying in bed and I watched this film and I was completely bowled over by how brilliant it was. It looked great.
Speaker 2:I was totally engrossed in the characters. I think that's the most Tim Burton.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's the most Tim Burton, yeah, yeah, no, edward Debtwood's Hands, i think there'd be, i mean, i suppose, one of the things that associates Danny Alff and scores very, very beautifully, tim Burton, the ice dance particularly, and the Edward Debtwood's Hands theme is lovely. I could just think of something in my head now, the sort of the coral nature of it. I suppose you'd say Edward Debtwood's Hands would be his best. Edward Debtwood's Hands has got more of the sort of grotesque shapes which you associate with Tim Burton, i mean Batman Returns is very much an Edward Debtwood's Hands.
Speaker 1:Look, yeah, with the snow as well. It doesn't really He was I don't think he watched any of his films.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he's. Big Fish was a great film as well, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's probably his last great one. That's right, yeah, but Edward's Hands had a big effect on me. Yeah, i couldn't believe how I've got it three times. I've bought it three times Different versions. I've got a steelbook one, i've got a 25th anniversary one, i've got maybe a four.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i know there's a love affair there.
Speaker 1:So I've got it, but I haven't watched any of them. I love it so much Oh yeah, you could argue I love it so much that I don't ever want to go back. Yeah, there is that. I know people like that. So that's number four.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Number three If I say to you, hit the road, jack Yep, you are going to say the Fisher King and you'd be right, i would be right. The Fisher King is number three. That is a very, again similar. It's quite interesting. when I it was quite, it was an interesting experience to go through these films and what they meant to me because, everyone's favourite films.
Speaker 1:They're not just great films, yeah, although even that person might not think that films are great, but it's what it means to you, it's the experience you have when you watch it, those sort of things, all those things make it up to why that's your favourite, or your second favourite. For me, the Fisher King, it felt like an incredible journey. Oh massive.
Speaker 1:From where he starts, as in Jeff Bridges' character, jack Lucas is a radio DJ. He's a shock jock. He is a shock jock. He's one of those people who sort of rude to people online, like on a phone, in Yeah, and he's going to be in a limousine having sex with a teenager of my choice, but he's in the gaze. He basically goes off the rails because his disaster happens.
Speaker 2:Which he kind of provoked, which he sort of instigated, but not, not really.
Speaker 1:Yes, This brings Robin Williams into it later on, who is directly affected by this tragedy, but by the time we see him again, he's basically a washed up bum. He's a drinker and he's sort of Even with the great Mercedes rule, but he's with Mercedes rule, who won the Oscar for Best of Point Actress, and she runs a video store and she loves him to death And he's sort of.
Speaker 2:And it's her second greatest performance behind Connie Russo, behind her for Marry to the Mob. That's right, yeah, but yeah, she's brilliant in it.
Speaker 1:But and he feels guilty about Robin Williams, because Robin Williams saves him one time, because he's actually committed suicide, isn't he?
Speaker 2:He is. He's actually going to commit suicide himself.
Speaker 1:He's saved by Robin.
Speaker 2:Williams, then he's set up on by these louts, isn't he? Yes, yes, but yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he's saved by the louts On hand. From the louts by Robin Williams. And then you kick into the Terry Gilligan movie Which is, he's gone a bit nuts, robin Williams, and he thinks he's a knight on a quest. Holy grail For the Holy Grail, that's right, yeah, so. But Jeff Bridges feels sorry for what? for him? Because what happened in his direct involvement. So he's trying to help him sort of move on, and sort of indirectly, isn't? he Yeah Have that chat with him right now.
Speaker 1:It's a wonderful evolve, but I do remember about it And I always go back to this, is that when I, in the last scene ish, when they're both lying on Central Park naked looking up at the sky, you, you saw it hits you as a viewer. What a roller coaster journey you've been on, yeah, and now you're there And I really felt like it took me with them all the way. Yeah, and I think it is a fabulous. By far is the Terry Gilligan special.
Speaker 2:The most full I've seen him I was ever being when I've been there. They're people sitting in the house. I mean, people had to sit and watch it in the aisles, standing up at the back. Can't do that, the only thing.
Speaker 1:I ever saw.
Speaker 2:I think they must have made a bit of a cock up with tickets, yeah.
Speaker 1:The only thing I ever saw people being turned away because it was full was who frame what? you rabbit? But we got it. So anyway, Fisher King wonderful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, number three, that would be in there.
Speaker 1:Number two is you didn't have it in your 10. Of course you didn't, because you had Miller's crossing Number two is the big Lebowski.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I mean, you know. I knew that would be in there.
Speaker 1:It is. It's just brilliantly rail written, So funny. There's two main characters are just. I mean there's a reason why we both put them as our favorite performances joint in the decade.
Speaker 2:They are just brilliant. You won't get like nominated for things like Jeff's performances because it's I know it's treated like yeah, because it's sort of comedic or whatever they feel like it's not. It's not Oscar worthy, a wonderful performance. I love it. Yeah, it is, it's just made so angry He loses it so often.
Speaker 1:Steve Buscemi as Donnie, then mate, oh, the big way.
Speaker 2:he's got his ashes Just all blows in his head. Everything gonna be about Vietnam. It's cross.
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry. The only thing about it, of course, is he doesn't like the Eagles, does he?
Speaker 2:No, let's create he loves credence, Which is like all right, because my dad used to love both of those.
Speaker 1:Yes, and his room for. both.
Speaker 2:Again another great. Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:John Goodman just jumps out of a car while he's driving, tells him to take over and he just jumps out and rolls into the road, forces Jeff Bridget to have to take the wheel for every everything that John Chichiro utters is well, the other chap just just you can see cracking up smiling, can't help it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, it's just eight year olds doing what? a great for talk. Yeah, But I mean one of the things that's like your opinion, isn't that great.
Speaker 1:Isn't that a great reply? I mean that is. I mean I think we should. We'd all be calmer, i think, in the world if we had that attitude. No matter what happens, if someone's marrying us for something and what they think, all you have to do is yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've already talked about the kid Yeah, yeah, there is so much to be garnered and take joy in the whole.
Speaker 1:Over the line, over the line. He gets his gun out because they're not gonna. He thinks that there's an illegal bowl in the bowling alley. It is Yeah, the dialogue, performances, the plot's really good fun as well. I mean, philip Seymour Hoffman is a weird weird assistant to the actual rich, mr LeBelsky, picks him up out of the seat because he can walk and he just collapses. Yeah, there's just so many brilliant set pieces and I will watch it anytime.
Speaker 2:And it's got put it on sometimes myself, without having anyone else making that decision for me.
Speaker 1:And it's got my favorite song from the album New Morning Oh, the Man and Me, the Man and Me by Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2:It's also got the brilliant, just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in by. Kenny Rogers, and that's brilliant. You forget the you know there's, do you know?
Speaker 1:more Ben Gazer as Jackie Treehorn. Yeah, great name, there's a good name. So that's number two. Number one is Pulp Fiction.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I agree with everything you said. It's my. In my opinion, by far it's his best work.
Speaker 2:It's his leanest work as well. There's no nothing. The story's all we've well, sometimes he gets a little like into people talking about pop culture or whatever. Yeah, yeah, bit indulgent sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, But this one there's just so many great performances, So many times, as you say all the films on. Oh, I just watched this bit. There's not many films that make you do that. Oh, I just watched it. We haven't even talked about one of my favorite scenes, which is the brilliant bit with Eric Stoltz and George Volta when they're trying to.
Speaker 2:Stabber through your tongue. No, you don't Stabber through your tongue.
Speaker 1:Stabber through your tongue What The instructions after. and with Herman has overdosed on how to bring around with the adrenaline shot.
Speaker 2:That whole thing is because it's hilarious and dramatic at the same time.
Speaker 1:I think the performances in that scene are brilliant. It looks like it has genuine fear because they know they are all they are all in massive trouble.
Speaker 2:It's such a good performer. I don't think people get the right credit for being what a bloody good actor he is So good in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. I think it's a great film. It is one of those films where, once in a while, you're going should we watch Pulp Fiction? Yeah, that's what we do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do that because we know we can both agree and go. Yeah, because sometimes you both love a film, but you won't agree that I'm not in the mood for that tonight. I don't think you ever go. Yeah, i'm not in the mood for Pulp Fiction. The only thing that will stop us watching Pulp Fiction is that we'll be watching it three weeks ago or something. If it's like been a period of time, we'll both always go.
Speaker 1:yes, So that is my number one. We only had four of the same. That's well, that's you know, it's a which were a good fellow short-sank redemption, groundhog date and Pulp Fiction with any form.
Speaker 2:That's good. Terrible that out of sight the Big Lebowski and Clueless Last of a Heakens weren't in it.
Speaker 1:Well, i understood why you didn't put the Big Lebowski in, because you had Melis Cross, i liked it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i liked it.
Speaker 1:I thought about, i thought long and hard, i said, about the fact that five were vying for the last one. I thought long and hard, honestly, about Edward, yeah, but I knew that Edward Tisand was definitely in. Could I get away with both This win?
Speaker 2:because obviously, on another, day I'll choose something different. and I ended up plumping with Edward at 10 because I wanted to talk about it and I knew you were going to go with Edward Tisand, and so I thought, well, let's, let's go with that.
Speaker 1:So I knew your one was going to be good fellow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i did not know your one would be Pulp Fiction, which is a lovely little surprise. I knew that you would have the Humphredo Toba. I knew that you would have Edward Scissor Hands. I knew you'd have Clueless as well, actually.
Speaker 1:Fisher King And I knew you'd have the Fisher King. Yeah, i mean the one, the one that it was a late into my 10, not late late, but late ish was bow finger, because I thought I can't. There hasn't been a film that made me laugh as much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, i shouldn't. I should have as well, But part of me didn't even twig. It was still in the 90s, i thought yeah, obviously it was Yeah, But yeah, good 10.
Speaker 1:That is what it was. It was a what a decade. So you're on death row. I don't know, i don't care what you've done. Whatever it is you're going to be, how would you like to be? Was it going to be electric chair, would you?
Speaker 2:Oh God, more not if it's like in in in Marlin they get it wrong, I'd be saying is that sponge wet Wet that sponge. I wouldn't like in any way, but I think the lethal injection looks a bit more painless.
Speaker 1:Yes, it looks a bit more.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be staring at all the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird as well, Staring at people who are sort of malevolently looking at you.
Speaker 2:I mean, let's see if you butchered that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I still don't think.
Speaker 1:I don't think I'd find closure for watching that I don't think I'd find closure for watching that. It's a very old closure. Yeah, what's your last meal? Oh, the last meal Can pick anything.
Speaker 2:I don't know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the question wasn't what's your preferred method of execution?
Speaker 2:I'd like it to be like in the Python way. He's chosen to be chased off a cliff by those topless ladies. He's chosen the manner of his own death And they're all waiting on the beach with a open grave where he's supposed to land with people. That's what I'd choose for the death, but again, this is obviously hyper there because I don't know if I'd be able to eat in that situation.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you're going. God, this is nice. Let's pretend that eating and sleeping night before isn't a problem.
Speaker 2:I would go. This is weird because it's not what I'd normally get. I love, i love Mexico and I love, i love a good chili dog, as you know. Yeah, but I'd probably go a beautiful piece of steak with some chips and some fried mushrooms and some peas and some fried onion. Oh yeah, i'd probably go with that, that would be. I think that would be rather nice, probably going to have one for a long time, because we, you know what would you?
Speaker 1:Well, I wouldn't have been on death row in the first place. I mean, I'd have had someone.
Speaker 2:It would always be me out of the two of us Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, someone, i'd have got away with it somehow, not because I'm cleverer than you by any means.
Speaker 2:I want to make that very clear.
Speaker 1:I just kind of talk about it after You'd have bragged to someone in the pub. I'm a fanatic, though, yeah.
Speaker 2:One of your after-dinner speeches you'd have said about it. I'd throw that in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would probably go either for a roast beef or a roast lamb. Or do like a roast, yeah, or chili with wraps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the only reason I wouldn't go it's like mind you, i wouldn't have to clean it up, would I? No, no, no, Someone else is doing loads of plates and I don't want to. if I was in prison, i don't know if I want to get stuff over my fingers Why that matters.
Speaker 3:It's quite amazing Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think the washing facilities are particularly good there. I think I'd just eat something nice with clean cutlery so I could be done. Fair enough, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you very much. No, thank you for having me around I must applaud those to the viewers, because we have finally breached the two hour point and I do apologise for that.
Speaker 2:We were always going to, i should go back and edit four minutes. That's the precise reason I didn't watch many in preparation, because I thought we're going to have a lot to talk about this week?
Speaker 1:Yes, and we did. I tried to rush it through as well.
Speaker 2:I did swap, i did hustle a little bit. Yeah, i know you did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you definitely hustled your 10. Yeah, that's very good, that was all worth it.
Speaker 2:It's all gold? I hope so. Just take a long journey for a nice deep bath.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the beauty You can dip in it anytime You won't use it for sexual progress, unless you are into tantric, yeah. I mean, i could listen to it. I can't imagine our voices are particularly erotic, do you think?
Speaker 2:Oh, no Give it a go. Let's let's know your thoughts in one of our many social media At all.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's our 25th episode done. Congratulations. You may now sip that water.
Speaker 2:Here's to you Good luck. Goodbye.