The Midnight Run
The Midnight Run
Tom Cruise Films
Ever wondered how Tom Cruise manages to defy both age and gravity consistently? We cover all of this and more. We're unpacking the glittering career of this beloved action star, from dissecting his breathtaking stunts in movies like Mission Impossible and Top Gun to understanding his knack for picking successful projects. Into his 5th decade of moviemaking, we pick our favourite decade of his films and don't decide on the same one.
He has worked with great directors such as Scorsese, Spielberg, Pollack, Reiner and Mann. Although mainly used as a leading man he has had a few eye catching minor roles, but do any of those make our list of favourite performances? He won 3 Golden Globe awards and Matt has to guess what they were as well as a running themed quiz.
Also featuring in this episode is how we believe that we brought down Woolworths, underrated guitarists, dressing room demands before a show, plunge pool stories and Matt's lovely wedding plans.
Did Tom Cruise save cinema after COVID? Listen and make your own mind up, but be warned. After listening to it, this podcast will self destruct in 5 seconds.
Hello, my name is Lewis Jones.
Speaker 2:Hello, and I'm his less easy on the eye, more easy in the bedroom brother Matthew, and this is.
Speaker 1:The Midnight Run podcast. I apologize for not managing to get through that properly. You said something very funny just before.
Speaker 2:I did. I save it all for off air.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to repeat it, but there we go. How have you been?
Speaker 2:It's been a long one, I mean there have been people just dying rotting on the vine, waiting for us to come back.
Speaker 1:I've not heard anyone. No one's complained. No one's complained or chased us at all. No one's had anything at all. We've been away. Thank you very much. No, okay, so They've probably given up on us.
Speaker 2:They've probably they're probably processing their grief in a very introverted way, which is ironic for considering the time when everyone posts everything an emotion they're ever feeling.
Speaker 1:Yes, but Nothing is sacred anymore.
Speaker 2:No, but if you are out there and you've been missing us. Hey, we're back. It's been a while. It's that period, it's August, summer holidays.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was away camping at the tent fell in at 1.30 in the morning and we evacuated and drove back to Gloucester. In the middle of the night I lost my car keys which fell into a shoe in my car because we were going to come back for my car the next day and I couldn't find and it had the door key on it. So it's a wake Claire's mum up at 4.30 in the morning when we got back to Gloucester. It was amazing camping rocks it does yeah, I've always enjoyed it, biblical, the storm.
Speaker 2:And so we went and bought a better tent and went back again the next week. Yeah, glutton. Get back on the horse and then you went away. You've been away to much better.
Speaker 1:I've been to France, been to Italy.
Speaker 2:Lake Como.
Speaker 1:Yes. You sent me a picture of the James Bond sanatorium or whatever it was, the villa that's used as part of his Recovering yes, and his wheelchair. It's very nice. But, actually we had a dip in the lake nearby.
Speaker 2:Actually, as I say because you sent me that picture and I just watched it on telly, like the day before. When I turned on it it was at that bit and it was just at the bit where they electrocuted what's his name?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:For 50 million in the pond. In the pond they just electrocuted and dragged him off by his with his feet dragging along the grass.
Speaker 1:Mathis.
Speaker 2:Mathis, that's him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because he's in the next one as well, isn't he? He is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, found in a dumpster.
Speaker 1:Spoiler alert Sorry.
Speaker 2:Just dumps him in didn't he? Yeah, it's what he wanted, he wouldn't have cared. He wouldn't have cared. But yeah, so you went away, I went away, just collating two unbelievably hectic, busy schedules, yeah.
Speaker 1:And also I've been to the opera.
Speaker 2:In between, yes Saw the marriage of Figaro, which was really and I've been to the cinema a few times, which is very rare. I used to a lot.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Did Barbenheimer.
Speaker 1:You did. Yeah, I didn't see anything of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, both wonderful, absolutely wonderful in totally different ways and it's actually pretty much coming back as a little golden age at the minute Cinema, some really good films, you know.
Speaker 1:I like it when there's a good few things that you could watch and it's sort of that vibe, that excitement of going to cinema when there's lots of things going on, lots of people there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and prices are not too crazy either. And I went this week to Lola and Annabelle to see Elemental, the Pixar, and one of us one of us I- was going to say, cried a lot. And the other two just looked around and watched their dad for the last five 10 minutes. What is going on? Just watch them. Turn around and watch them. I was in bits Got me. They don't get it do they.
Speaker 2:They don't get it. Why are you crying so much, dad? Because I love your mum and they love each other, and I was like I don't know. It's just got to me that morning, so yeah, so I've had a lovely time going to the cinema, and not much of it.
Speaker 1:I also saw Hamilton, which was great.
Speaker 2:Oh, you did see Hamilton. Yes, that was really good.
Speaker 1:Recommend that as well to anyone. It was fab. Yeah, he'd been busy. Yeah, I've not been well.
Speaker 2:No, you're not been well.
Speaker 1:I've been unwell for like a month. Blood tests and doctor's appointments and all that sort of stuff, all different, different things going on.
Speaker 2:Yes, at least you're getting sick. Get checked out people. If you have problems, get checked out.
Speaker 1:This is episode 26.
Speaker 2:I doubt we're going to get to 30. Oh stop that I was about to say. What number is this? What number is this? Jim 26. 7a. I was going to do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, oh right.
Speaker 2:Right, I need this because.
Speaker 1:I'm short, I'm short 26.
Speaker 2:I hadn't even thought about sportsmen.
Speaker 1:I think I think there was a running back who used to play for Denver Broncos called Clinton Portis. I think he was 26. I don't know that. I've not actually researched.
Speaker 2:Hadrian Peterson 26.
Speaker 1:There was a 24. There was a defensive back.
Speaker 2:John Terry will 26. Footballer, we don't do that.
Speaker 1:We don't delve into the English. We don't like John Terry.
Speaker 2:anyway, I'm not alienate our one Chelsea fan, Sorry I beg your pardon, john Terry Rocks, so I've seen.
Speaker 1:I saw it at the cinema the other day, as I know you know.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Took Evan, our nephew, to watch Jurassic Park. The 30th anniversary in 3D.
Speaker 2:3d 3 dimensional.
Speaker 1:Which is very good.
Speaker 2:I've not seen many films 3D. I told you about when I saw the Hobbit the first one I was getting really nars because I thought there was a bloke stood in the wave. Oh, yeah, he stood up in the aisle and it wasn't, it was smoking a foreground.
Speaker 1:Just you've been in the foreground.
Speaker 2:I was getting really ready.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, that does do it as well. I mean, I've got a bit of that in the film on Friday, but I haven't seen it for a little while. Rumps along it, oh, it does. And you get the double threat, don't you? You get the whole Tyrannosaurus Rex bit, and then you get the Velocirapt bit as well.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Velocirapt is unbelievably good, they're mean, aren't they? The old D'alothosaurus attacking Wayne Knight is always pretty good, oh yeah well, it comes through the rough, it's rough, he rattles when he rattles Gobs at him. Yeah, comes in with that.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's not very nice either.
Speaker 2:Good old Wayne Knight, I like a bit of Wayne Knight, hello Newman.
Speaker 1:I think about him in basic instinct looking really sort of clammy.
Speaker 2:He's very clammy in basic instinct, yeah, yeah puts me off that scene a little bit.
Speaker 1:Does it put you off that scene? Not really, not really, not really. So a download update. Oh yeah, we are on 3048.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was 3000.
Speaker 1:So we've gone over the 3000 mark and we've got five new countries. That's unbelievably good. So up to 43. But it's a bit weird because one of the new countries is Turkey. Now we've already got Turkey, but it must have been since they've officially changed their name, because before it was TURKY and now it's TURKYYE, and that is a download that we've got since. So we've got Turkey and Turkey. I saw somebody.
Speaker 2:I thought that was somebody I knew. I don't know if it was James Kirby or something, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So we've got our 43 countries include Turkey twice, turkey twice, but I can't change that.
Speaker 2:So there we go, it's like Christmas, isn't it so, john?
Speaker 1:Simmons is probably going to be responsible for some of these, because we've got Hong Kong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did a layover in Hong Kong.
Speaker 1:Singapore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he's definitely one or two of those.
Speaker 1:Belgium.
Speaker 2:That's not him.
Speaker 1:No. My favourite one, though, is it came up as unknown it honestly does it comes up as unknown the country, what I have no idea where that is Well for you.
Speaker 2:If you're that person, you are well. Is it like on an island in the middle of nowhere?
Speaker 3:one of those uncharted places like.
Speaker 2:Castaway Island or whatever Unofficial country something like that.
Speaker 1:but wherever you are, thank you unknown. You are now part of our listening world, wherever you are Well, world.
Speaker 2:It's like the Roman Empire, isn't it now?
Speaker 1:Well, the British Empire's massive yeah, yeah, yeah, we had our moments and we I know more months treated people quite badly?
Speaker 2:Yes, we did.
Speaker 1:In the days where you sort of got away with it. We're quite cunning like that, aren't we? So today's episode, because I've rambled on.
Speaker 2:It was going to be relevant at the time.
Speaker 1:It was going to be really relevant in like July. Yeah, because we're filming this, in recording this, in September. It's not September.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise because the Mission Impossible was coming out at the time. Yes, the trailers were everywhere about the incredible stunt, and quite yes.
Speaker 1:So we were going to coincide it with a trip to the cinema.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:To watch Mission Impossible dead reckoning part one? Yes, and did you go and see it? Yes, I did so, did I? Yes, what did you think? I thought?
Speaker 2:it was absolutely magnificent. I did. I thought it because they're getting better and better, I think, because I think fallout is probably my fact. We'll get into those later because we're going to be talking about. Oh yeah, but I thought it was terrific, I thought it was, and it for something that was like quite long, did not feel it.
Speaker 3:It was long.
Speaker 1:Yeah but it didn't feel it In the buttocks which is the telltale sign for me. I think it's just very exciting. Yeah, I mean, it really does he's putting it out there.
Speaker 2:That's why we thought I mean, I genuinely think he deserves something. He's been in a zone for five decades. And what was Maverick? Sort of Tom, as Spielberg said to him, you've saved cinema with Maverick.
Speaker 3:He held on to it and held on to it, and that was an amazing work.
Speaker 2:Absolutely waited for it to be put in the cinema, and then this and what him and Chris Macquarie are doing is just staggering, and I actually think he is. It's pure cinema, and I think that for a man to be arguably I said I hate using that word because he's saying that about anything yeah, yes, I thought that someone once said he's arguably the greatest footballer in history. Well, you said that about me. I mean arguably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a bigger argument, it's a great, it's a good one.
Speaker 2:You could say, arguably about anything, about anyone, yeah, but I genuinely think he's the greatest action star in the history of cinema now, at the age of 62, because what he's putting out there, he's doing it all in camera, on camera. What about Mark Dacascos? Mark Dacascos was unbelievably good. What was his big one?
Speaker 1:It was. What was that video?
Speaker 2:We did a video sketch, didn't we? Mark Dacascos. Yeah we had it, we had did a sketch ages ago.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna try and think about that Video shop we just had one film in it, which was a Mark Dacascos one. Where did we get hold of that? I've no idea. We must have mugged it from something. We never bought it.
Speaker 2:Oh we never bought it, but it was just for some reason. It was one of those top shelves.
Speaker 1:I can't remember what it was, no.
Speaker 2:I can't remember either, but we did have it in the sketch. We normally can't get it remembering those things.
Speaker 1:Well, I should have remembered, because I've said it loads of times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I genuinely don't think there's in back to cruise. There's anybody that's ever been more astonishing in terms of what they're putting out, in terms of action themselves on camera, than what he's doing right now. And what is crazy about it is he's 62 and he hasn't let up.
Speaker 1:He's still able to be somewhat similar to the man.
Speaker 2:He was in the 80s and it's like people like Harrison Thornton people. They're clearly older and they move into different roles. He's doing the same and someone once someone said that you know, when you get older you then move into sort of quirky character roles when you're old.
Speaker 3:He did that about 20 years ago Did.
Speaker 2:Magnolia and things like that, and you think now he's moved back to action in his 60s, late 50s, 60s. It's mad, and they're brilliant films at the moment.
Speaker 1:So what have you worked? If you want to say any preparations, yes, I have.
Speaker 2:Because I've worked. I worked out how many I'd seen and how many I hadn't seen. I think I'd seen 34.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll tell you now he's made. According to some website, he's made 45.
Speaker 3:Yeah, You've seen 34. Yeah, you had seen 34. I had seen 34.
Speaker 2:It's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably more than me.
Speaker 2:And I then saw Vanilla Sky, because I'd never seen, I'd seen the opening, which I always enjoyed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what did you think of?
Speaker 2:it. I thought the soundtrack was the best bit.
Speaker 1:And Helen hated Vanilla Sky.
Speaker 2:I actually thought I mean it had you know. Sweetness follows by REM appears on it.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of really good songs in the game.
Speaker 2:Yes, lasted by fourth time around by Bob.
Speaker 1:It is Crow though, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:And I actually found myself remarkably bored by it. I thought they tried to be way too clever.
Speaker 1:It seemed to go on and on a bit, yeah, and it just might have been Kurt. It's not Kurt in it, which is what it is Kurt in it, yeah, but I thought he started to unravel a bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, night and day.
Speaker 1:Oh, another DR. She's in both of those, yeah.
Speaker 2:James Mangold directed that a lot of it, james Mangold.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 2:that's fine. That's the great Viola Davis in and and Gal Gadot in an early role in it and it was okay. But I think he was, that was in his sort of lulley period. Well, I think he does the weakest period of his career, when he was doing and I've watched a few of those, because they were the ones I hadn't seen.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:So I watched Oblivion yes, which I thought I would enjoy, the concept, and now all that seemed more interesting than it actually was.
Speaker 1:I thought that tried to be too clever as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I was a bit, a little bit bored with that. I watched the Mummy. Oh, did you? I watched the first half hour, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I remember I quite enjoyed it beyond what I was expecting, because the news are unbelievable. Yeah, then I left it when I did other things, went away on and then come back and I came back to it like, and I realized I couldn't remember a bloody thing that happened and I thought that doesn't bode well. Can't be a good sign. Yeah, it was written by I looked up David Kep, who is, fun fact, the ninth most successful screenwriter in history in terms of box office.
Speaker 1:In spirit.
Speaker 2:But he's written like quite a few, like big, big films anyway. Second, and then, oh, but I read that when I should have been watching the second half of the Mummy, because I realized I was bored and I was delving into Wikipedia.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Russell Crowe shows up Really and he's just chewing scenery and it. But that just emphasised the gulf between the Mummy and Master and Commander which was on telly that afternoon.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's trivking that.
Speaker 2:And I and it's just utter guff really and it was instantly forgettable and I drifted off a lot during it. Yeah, and I think an American made yes, which actually had good view from that period that actually had decent reviews. Yes, and I, but I thought it was less enthralled. It was good, but I thought it was less enthralling than maybe it should have been, given that the actual, it's a true story. Yeah, and some of the stuff is like it's fascinating story.
Speaker 2:But I didn't think it put that down and brought it home as well as maybe it could. It was still good, definitely the best out of the ones I saw, but yeah, they were the ones I saw.
Speaker 1:So I saw quite a few because I realized I hadn't seen many. I mean I had, but not not a lot of the ones in the say in the middle. So I watched out the ones you've just mentioned.
Speaker 2:I also watched Oblivion yeah.
Speaker 1:Night and day, vanilla sky and American made.
Speaker 2:Yes, I watched all that, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a touch of good fellows about American made. Now I know you're going to object to that. No, no, no, there is a touch of it, but it's a touch of how we sort of becomes a bit of a crime person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is a story of a man.
Speaker 2:Yes, of a man becoming something and falling into it by accident, and then yeah. And then everyone's out. That's what I mean. I actually thought the actual biography of the man was almost more interesting than the way it was being. It didn't like burst along like a good fellows would.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I watched a couple that I thought I'd seen before, but I hadn't. I realized when I watched it I hadn't Legend.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, which I haven't seen that for a long time.
Speaker 1:I didn't really care for it particularly. No, however it looks lovely. Yeah, but the one thing about legend that I do remember is it burnt down Pinewood Studios? It did, and that's why they had to film. Yeah, it was a view to a kill, I think in France.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've been viewed to a kill.
Speaker 1:Because they had to, because the 007 sound stage had been burnt down by legend, but it looked really nice. Interview with a vampire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he's genuinely wonderful.
Speaker 1:I hadn't seen that. I thought he was very good in that.
Speaker 2:And Rice. The. Author.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, lestat, it's the same thing with Jack Reacher.
Speaker 1:Lestat.
Speaker 2:Lestat is not doesn't not described anything like what he looks like. And she was unhappy, and then she saw it and took out a full page ad apologizing, saying he's absolutely amazing. Okay, I mean he walks off with that.
Speaker 1:He's got some big cast members in there. Yes, quite a few.
Speaker 2:One of your top three crushes of all time.
Speaker 1:He is in it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and he's brilliant Lestat in that.
Speaker 1:Yes, talk about one of my other crushes, because obviously he's talking about bandera. Yes, I was thinking of the day going off on a little bit of a tangent. How amazing the acoustic guitar is on never going back again on. Fleetwood what a tune that is how he does that, lindsay Buckingham. It is pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel what I thought On a slight thing of that the ending of the song Family man, oh yeah, on Tango in the Night. Yes, it's a ridiculous bit of guitar he plays.
Speaker 1:I have to go back to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should listen to that, because he doesn't. I mean he, his credit is being a very, very good guitarist, but I don't think he'd get credited quite enough.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's not like.
Speaker 2:Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 1:Glenn.
Speaker 2:Campbell is an unbelievable guitar player.
Speaker 1:He doesn't really get the credit for that.
Speaker 2:No, but he was a session guitarist for a long time.
Speaker 1:And before he was a singer, yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's unbelievable. He actually should watch. He plays like the William Tellovicure.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:On the guitar. You should look that up on YouTube. But he plays that gentle on my mind and then just goes into this incredible solo and everyone just goes. You see, like Willie Nelson almost having an orgasm watching, and he's like, yeah, I didn't realise Glenn Campbell, because people like to talk about the same five or six guitarists, don't they?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And always pop up. Yeah, Anyway, yes, so because Buckingham is in your top three? Obviously isn't he yeah.
Speaker 1:So I also watched Risky Business I'd never seen it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was an awakening for me, rebecca DeMorne, when she arrives, as a youngster, I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 1:Cos it's got a very famous scene in there, isn't it Risky Business?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:But I didn't warm to her, I didn't like I mean basically I warmed her in one way. Yeah Well, it's tingles more than tingles. But the bit where the car goes into the water it felt like she had done that on purpose because he had to go at her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you feel like that.
Speaker 1:And then you thought well, if that's the case, why on earth would he be nice to her straight after his because?
Speaker 2:she's just done that to his car. Because she's foxy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had.
Speaker 2:Leonard Cohen for a while Did she.
Speaker 1:Rebecca DeMorne yeah, born on the 4th of July.
Speaker 2:That's very good. I realized I hadn't seen it. Yeah, it's a very good film. He's very good in that again.
Speaker 1:Willem de Faust swears a lot. He does, he does.
Speaker 2:That was good. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1:And the film.
Speaker 2:I love the film.
Speaker 1:So I actually put my hand in my pocket, spent some coins of the realm and I bought the film and American made and the film I thought was terrific.
Speaker 2:It is a terrific film.
Speaker 1:I like the sort of film where people are after him and you feel like how?
Speaker 2:is he gonna get out of this?
Speaker 1:So it was that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jean Hackman, and it was brilliant and a very nasty.
Speaker 1:Wilfred Bramble, not Wilfred.
Speaker 2:Bramble, wilfred Brimble, wilfred Brimble, wilfred Bramble.
Speaker 1:Wilfred Brimble Errol, errol, oh you dirty old man, so a steptoe and some yes, yes, yes, yes, wilfred. Brimble as a villain.
Speaker 2:And that amazing fact Wilfred Brimble same age in cocoon as Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 6. No way yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, the film I did want to watch and I tried to watch it for one of our previous podcasts. I still didn't get around to it is Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I didn't get to see that. I like Eyes Wide Shut. Yeah, so I find it quite hypnotic.
Speaker 1:Yes, I can imagine. That.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it draws me in. I find it very fascinating and very interesting. As you know, all Kubrick's really interest me in on different levels yes, there's always something.
Speaker 1:So what do we like about Tom Cruise? I think I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think he, I don't think I think he's very underrated, which is a wit, as an actor is acting yes, yeah, he's a, he's a star, he's a movie. It's been a movie star for five decades, and at the top I mean iconic, for five decades, I mean yeah, and still with the first name of the credits now oh yeah, he, I mean the whole time, and.
Speaker 2:But he's worked. You see who he's worked with Kubrick Spielberg, oliver Stone, brian De Palma, sydney Pollock, scorsese, paul Thomas Anderson, barry Levinson, rob Reiner, robert Redford, ridley and Tony Scott, michael Mann. These are not people that would be a collateral, yeah yeah, I mean, my goodness me, that's marvelous.
Speaker 2:And he, I think he's got. He's clearly obsessed with cinema and he's clearly obsessive person in terms of, like, the work he puts in is huge. I think that pays off, but it doesn't. But that doesn't matter if you're not very good at picking projects. I think he really understands and wants to make cinema exciting for people.
Speaker 1:He wants to make you, want you to go to he wants you to go and be entertained properly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think he's got a great gift for that. But because you know there's a lot of bangers on his resume, yes, yes, I mean, he is probably right now.
Speaker 1:As we said before, about you could argue, will say arguably for anything yes he is currently the biggest film star in the world. I would say so yeah for the most of the center, sort of the sense of power that he has, without doubt, and he can get anything made now, pretty much, but but you'd like to think that he's making good things first producing break by Sherri Lansing, who was a friend of his who was who ran Paramount at the time.
Speaker 2:Sherri Lansing was married to William Friedkin, who died recently yeah yeah, and the great William Friedkin and but she also was the lady with the scratch, the cut face in Rio Lobo no way that is Sherri Lansing, yeah and she came, a studio head gave Tom Cruise, said what do you want to do? And he was looking through the stuff and he said, well, the mission impossible is that can I do something with those? And she went, yeah and yeah yeah, rio Lobo.
Speaker 1:Yes, she is a horrible cut on her cheek.
Speaker 2:She gets the big killer, the end.
Speaker 1:Turn around, sheriff, I want you to see. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's an interesting little sideline on that. I looked up a little bit about him and I said that he'd moved schools 15 times in 14 years because it's growing up army father was yeah, I think something like that, and it was the same thing with Tom Hank. So then I have a theory that is that is my theory is that restless and unsettled education coupled with the name Tom, yes, equals colossal movie stardom and longevity.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to the paper. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 2:I will give a Ted talk on that at some point people studying this and people at university and years to come. London School of Economics that would be very nice. Where I will unveil it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah, yeah we'll be your rider if you had to do that, I don't um what I have as a rider.
Speaker 2:I've never really been asked for riders.
Speaker 1:No, yeah my ride would always be Sharon Stoen. From 1992 I am very, very.
Speaker 2:I mean I do love the concept of right because I'm very comfortable nicking other people's riders when I do corporate work, you do still stuff, yep yep, if they're stuff there and if someone else is dressing room, oh haven't, I would say, probably good crisps good crisps lots of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if they were the ones, the green cheese and onion, with the one that at the rugby player on the head, the real crisps, oh, another one. You mean, yeah, that is a wonderful, that is a wonderful crisp that, um, and I tend to take. I would like to have a bottle of bubbles, to be honest oh, yeah, yeah which one, oh, if I can have any yeah tangy maybe yeah, okay, I'll go crew, I don't mind, yeah, well yeah, I don't mind that. And and glass bottle, coke cola, baby glass ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah it would be drinks rather. I don't feel like eating before. Maybe low maintenance.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big eater before show. You're not a big eater before show. No, no, afterwards. Oh yeah, I come for eat afterwards to get most partly what it's for in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah you go about your dressing room, you pickle yeah or take everything with you, but you've done many times before yes, I have. So I think you know. Going back to Tom, he's definitely got better with age, I think, and he's stunts have become more and more daring, so he's pushing boundaries. His films are thrilling yes he seems game for everything.
Speaker 1:It seems like it seems like a nice chap, seems like, of all, he doesn't do a lot of lot of nasty films, and what I mean by that is unpleasant. Also, he doesn't swear in that many films. Now there are a few these ways, a lot in mm-hmm, but we're talking more about few or far between. You know these films. I know you're thinking of the same sort of?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm thinking about yeah probably at three or four where he swears a lot, yeah, but most of the ones he doesn't swear in respect that, yeah, yeah, that's all my favorite um which I'll talk about later but he doesn't, does he? No, I know a lot of his films.
Speaker 2:Don't have a lot of swearing but what I like is what you say about the stunts and things as well. It's like he they. I think cinema got carried away with what it could do with computers yes, yes and it's like that's like where you see the difference in it's not just in Raiders of the Lost Ark to the crystal skull and it's like all it's all done. They did them all practically and it shows it proper stunts, proper stuntmen women, it's like what Bond films were so good?
Speaker 2:because the stunt as soon as you know. You compare that and as soon as um he's kite surfing oh just horrible it's nonsense, but when you, when you, it's something feels real and visceral when they're doing it in camera, and I think we got away from that for a while and it's right back now.
Speaker 1:Chris brought it right back well, nolan does that as well. Doesn't require a lot yeah, oh yes, absolutely so on the downside, though, I like I don't mind his Jack Reacher no, not all right because the focus, the stories are good but Lee Child but I've read all the Lee Child, jack Reacher films and Tom Cruz. It does not come to mind when you know he's a big lad, isn't?
Speaker 2:he's like six, seven, yeah, although it's a Lee.
Speaker 1:Child actually doesn't mind it no, no, I mean I think both the films he's done are okay very yeah, very good fun, very entertaining.
Speaker 3:I like.
Speaker 2:I like the bit where he um. Well, I'll talk about scenes later, so yes, yes, right we'll do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, obviously the other thing that slightly blanks him with Scientology.
Speaker 2:But yes, but then I don't believe in any.
Speaker 1:No, no, absolutely right and also he's got nothing to do with films no so an interesting stat. He won in 1994 the hasty pudding man of the year award. What is that?
Speaker 1:right, I've heard of it this is given out by students, I believe, at Harvard University oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and it's to recognize someone's achievement in entertainment, right. So he won in 94, yeah, so. I like the fact that he's hasty pudding man of the year in 94. But no, this is difficult because going back this is one of the reasons why I think, why we think Tom Cruz is terrific is when you go. You said five. He's been working for five decades. Yeah, what is the best decade for him?
Speaker 2:I look. I well, I had a little look and I'm actually gonna go because I would immediately when you, when you suggested that, I just thought off top my head without looking. I went 90s in my head, okay, but when I looked it was the 2000s, right, and I'll, and I'll tell you for why. Yes, please, it's because in the 90s it was pretty good. Let me add I I saw shout Magnolia and Jeremy Gwai, the first Mission Impossible interview of Vampire, the firm fugue of men yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but it, you know, it had like far and away, which I still quite enjoyed.
Speaker 2:But in the 2000s, mission Impossible 2, which take a leave, yeah, and Venus sky, which you take a leave. But then Minority Report is in there, the last Samurai is in there, collateral is in there almost back-to-back oh yeah, but actually they are back-to-back in War of the Worlds, obviously, which I enjoyed, mission Impossible 3, which is excellent, tropic thunder Valkyrie, which I enjoyed, so I actually would just edge it to the 2000s that's interesting because I narrowed it down to the 1990s.
Speaker 1:Yes, or the 2010s oh, the 2010s. I mean, I'll go further down and because I think he did, I think he's he really cranked up the Mission Impossible.
Speaker 2:Well, fall out on rogue nation, absolutely right and they're absolutely winners. They are and there was some edgy's got edge of tomorrow edge of tomorrow was there as well.
Speaker 1:That's right. So what I had to do was I did a little spreadsheet and I worked out what my, if I thought, was proper top-notch film yeah for the decades, and every decade, every day, had three three belters and one had four, and the four was 90s yeah so I can't know what they were.
Speaker 2:The firm was probably one few good men, the firm Jerry.
Speaker 1:McGuire and something else.
Speaker 2:Mission Impossible yes, probably wasn't. Probably was great. They're all great actually they're all great even the second one. Second one has bits that I really enjoy and some great sequences and you know but. But this is the thing about it. Obviously it's too smaller pool, but the 2020s top-gun memory yeah mission possible dead reckoning part one and it's gonna be about for me, yeah, so isn't this, but you're based on two for the end of the decade we could be rewriting.
Speaker 1:It could be this one, but the thing that made me think about how good he's been is the fact that my choice was decades 20 years apart.
Speaker 2:I know it's for me.
Speaker 1:It's brilliant and that just shows that he's a. He's been around a long time and be that, he has got better, I think, with his performances. Choices whatever you could say he's acting performances. Body were at its peak more than 90s because he got nominated yeah for things like so, for example yeah, a couple of quizzes cut a quizzes any little ones though and he's been nominated for an Oscar four times. What are they?
Speaker 2:for well. He's definitely been asked to nominated for born on the 4th of July he was 1990, definitely nominated for Magnolia yes, 99.
Speaker 1:I thought he would have been what 2000 winning. That it's a side quiz, mmm, because I want to make you I'm gonna go back and forth here. Tell me the other four people who was nominated with in 1999's well, for 99 in 2004 when he was nominated for Magnolia for Best Supporting Actor, who?
Speaker 2:won it? Oh, I seem to. Mm-hmm, I remember it was quite good wasn't it. They were all pretty good, it all good was that here when they were big, big hitters in there? Yeah some yeah, oh who won it.
Speaker 1:Remember who won it.
Speaker 2:Chris Cooper nominated no, no.
Speaker 1:So so the bloke who won it then his speech was about all the other ones, about a lot of them do that.
Speaker 2:Yes, they do yeah.
Speaker 1:He also said he wasn't here the last time because he was oh Michael, michael, one for the side of house.
Speaker 2:So he, I can remember his speech. Haley Joel Osmond yes, sixth sense.
Speaker 1:Michael Clark Duncan yes, the green mile one left oh, jude Law, talented Mr Ripley challenge mr Ripley correct okay so we go back, we're gonna back what you said, that I remembered the speech.
Speaker 1:Yes, you've got two of the ones he was nominated for Oscar for, born the 4th of July, and Magnolia um what else has he been nominated for? It's. Oh, I'll have to possibly help you out here yeah one of them is not for acting okay, oh, it's top-go memory yes, but it says producer producer of top-go memory yes, so another one 97 97 oh, he's dominated Jerry McGuire. Jerry McGuire yes, yeah, right trying to think well yeah, he's also won three Golden Globe because he famously gave them back he did yes what was that about?
Speaker 1:was it about um?
Speaker 2:that diversity or whatever they were doing?
Speaker 1:yes, it was yeah, yeah, I try to go they were one of. Me too was found to be yeah okay, so he won. He's actually won three Golden Globes, all for acting yeah and what are they?
Speaker 2:at Magnolia yes did he win for Jerry McGuire? Did because it was obviously comedy, comedy, musical. Yeah, what year are we talking?
Speaker 1:1990 well, that's the year. The film would have been 89. This is a bone the fourth, all on the fourth yeah yes, so, so those so the three he was nominated for for the Oscar hmm, he won the Golden Globe for all three oh, he must be a bit gutted then he must have been in fairness.
Speaker 2:The Golden Globes does split Golden.
Speaker 1:Globe has two different categories they have actor in a drama or an actor in a musical comedy or comedy musical. Okay so, but so he's done a white yeah but that again two of them. When the 90s well say 90s born the fourth of July was 89, the thing I've got here says 90 but that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:He went and did more character pieces at that point in his career and then he went to action. It's like he was doing more acting yeah, acting role incredible, like journey, you know.
Speaker 1:Yes, to do it that way, and he's still is even more relevant now. As you say, saving cinema, I think was actually that was a good one. Yes, yes, because of the top gun, maverick. What was the first film you remember seeing him in?
Speaker 2:maybe, as I say, the awakening of watching him in risky business late night on television. Yeah, top gun. Yeah, it was all the rage. Everyone was wearing Ray bands. Yeah, and it was. Everyone was talking about him.
Speaker 1:That was the first time that he was everywhere in terms of oh yeah, yeah, that was the first time he became really.
Speaker 2:He was an icon from then never stopped colour of money.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing early yes, same year in it.
Speaker 2:Scorsese was already on my radar because Guy Raphael, friend of friend of mine back then was was more advanced in terms of his like. The introduced me to Scorsese at an early age so we watched that when I was I must have been 30 or 14 at the time and the outsiders I saw late night on telly on like a movie drone thing, like an Alex.
Speaker 1:Cox yeah yes, they were my and I legend to a certain extent okay, yeah, so for me, the one I obviously remember would be top gun yeah, I've been 10 at the time. Yeah, so I wouldn't be able to see it, would I?
Speaker 2:know would have been a DVD or DVD, a video I've joined.
Speaker 1:Remember when it came out on VHS Woolworths, which is no longer with us, the department store it had wall-to-wall videos everywhere that's been, you know, in that sort of time, videos were massive yeah big business and when we were in top gun came out, it was just everywhere and they even had it on the little screen with the sound off yeah, they had showing yeah, I remember it was a really big deal in top.
Speaker 2:One came out on VHS is that the same Woolworths that you and I robbed?
Speaker 1:we are, we.
Speaker 2:I don't know how well we were. We stole, I reckon, about 12 pence worth of pick and mix, because they used to have pick and mix section they did have a pick and mix. And then we liked the little. There was little mini fruitellas. I remember we took some of those and the two of us because we are such hardened criminals spent the whole night in the wardrobe at our home because we were convinced we were going to go to prison for the rest of our life yeah because we had taken seven or eight pick and mix sweets but home without paying.
Speaker 2:I think it's fair to say though never got caught, because it didn't happen, we probably brought down we did eventually they probably they invested so much money on the manhunt for us yeah, they just totally blew the company wide open from the inside yes, and well, perhaps it just opened, we're still here.
Speaker 1:We're still here. Mate can't touch us now.
Speaker 2:Wall if she don't exist statue of limitations has gone on that crime there's no proof.
Speaker 1:You got proof just confessed yeah in the wardrobe excuse me, so the outsiders, definitely for me as well yeah, all the right moves. I remember yeah yeah, I remember that because I was into a young football as a kid. That's the lamb, but he played yeah.
Speaker 2:I never saw that till a lot later, okay, which is weird, because I don't know how I saw it later. It's not something I know, yeah so you wouldn't be going.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm gonna watch, yeah, so um how many? What films did you see at the cinema?
Speaker 2:I saw, I just this is no particular order, although yeah. Jerry McGuire yeah a few good men, the last samurai with you, one of our, yes, one of our favorite cinema going experience was yeah, minority report with you with me as well, my favorite mission impossible, yeah, mission impossible to mission impossible. Then I missed a few. Then mission possible fallout dead. Reckoning part one top gun Maverick yeah, this very podcast yeah our sequels episode excellent episode.
Speaker 1:Magnolia, which I saw yeah did I did indeed gold member yeah, yeah, cameo, yeah, yeah, yeah counts far and away did you yes yes, yes, I just fancied.
Speaker 2:I just look like a nice bit of escapism. I knew it wasn't supposed to be. Yeah, one hour yeah, and days of thunder yeah that is pretty good yeah so I might.
Speaker 1:The first, for my source in our photon was days of them, hmm, 1990s, the first time you remember anyone swearing.
Speaker 2:Randy quade said the f-word not ball for Andy Craig and he played come watch right do you know what?
Speaker 1:the other week last weekend in fact they had wall-to-wall John Wayne Westerns on mm things like the war wagon and the ammo and things like that Red River, and every time I see John, I was thinking you'd be a horrible man now and he would be, he would now be.
Speaker 2:You'd be an absolute forefront of the public party right, yes, yes it'd be just funny how it changed, I'm able to totally divorce that yeah from a piece of art. Fortunately, it would ruin a lot of things.
Speaker 1:For me it would indeed yes, so mission impossible.
Speaker 2:Three yeah that's not a Philip Seymour Hoffman yeah, I think he's a very good villain.
Speaker 1:Neil and I went to see that the cinema because we had. We went to the cinema and there are only two films on that were around about the same time or suitable for us, and they were mission impossible three and X men three and we realized that we'd never seen any of the X-men films. There's no point going to see that so we watched mission impossible. We hadn't seen mission impossible two, but we'd seen the first one, so we thought it's probably more likely that we'll get away with yeah mission impossible three, so that was good.
Speaker 1:Last samurai is with you as you said the war of the world. My minority report, as you say with you definitely have the scene with the balloons. I'm by telling you guys, this is great top gun, maverick, mission impossible, fallout. I don't think I saw rogue I saw fallout with you did and. John was there. Was he? We went to the screen.
Speaker 2:Five, I think, was you know, perhaps it's three of us. Yes, yeah, yeah that's just real.
Speaker 1:So we had the deconstructed pie it was that Dunkirk?
Speaker 2:we saw no Dunkirk, dunkirk, we had a deconstructed yes, okay, I remember that before beforehand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then mission impossible dead recording part one. So that's what. So he's very famous nowadays, particularly all his stunts yeah, this is a really tough one. What's your favorite stunt?
Speaker 2:oh well, stunts my list here, do you?
Speaker 1:ever say the word stunt and think I hope I don't say something else. No, no, no, no, no right right, I always.
Speaker 1:I mean the freeze me at the eye bit from mission possible to yes the knife, yes the knife rigged up, so the knife couldn't go any further yes, but yes, I open the knife and right there, don't like it. Yeah, unnerves me. The helicopter sequence in fallout is mind-boggling he learned to be able to write a job, because that's another good thing about him he trains to do these things he does. He became a pilot training. I don't know how many hours a day he did, but he was able to then be able to fly solo the helicopter yeah but then he drops onto that ball hanging.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, the boy, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, in rogue nation. Holds his breath for six minutes, six minutes said it was horrible hanging off a plane hanging off a plane and sound believable. The rock climbing at the start mission was for two that's mad, and it is well is mad he's holding on they.
Speaker 1:I know they didn't tell the producers no, he's doing it because they wouldn't give him permission about a house down the, breaking his ankle in fallout oh yeah, jumping over. He still gets up and runs jump. You know he's all about the shot couple of roof tops, yeah yeah, and in London town yes, there's a lot of films in London, but I think there's two things that stand out for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I think when he's holding the breath thing, it just makes me think of Shelly Winters.
Speaker 1:Yeah shit, if I didn't have to do that, shit would be still all right.
Speaker 2:I think he runs stupendously well.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I mean, he runs full tilt sprint as well. That's seen in Mission Impossible 3 when he's running down the top. He's absolutely hammering down.
Speaker 3:He's proper running.
Speaker 2:I think best four runners in history for me him Redford, oh yeah. Kevin Costner no way out, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:No way out.
Speaker 2:yeah, and Robert Powell.
Speaker 1:Robert Powell. Yeah, I've run like Robert Powell In the 39 steps. What a great runner. I've run like Robert.
Speaker 2:Powell, with an honourable mention to Robert Patrick, the way he runs his Tilt-A-Tilt 2 with his arms, oh yes, with his arms, it's the arms that make it scary. But the best thing and I will always watch whenever it is the Berg Al-Khalifa.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, on the side of that, On the side of the loading end.
Speaker 2:Because it makes me go all down my legs, as Mum says, go up. When it's just heights like that Freaks me out. I mean because I was thinking I could probably hang there on wires.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, but I couldn't then look like I belonged there. You would see white knuckle tearing my eyes and I just know where I could look Even remotely.
Speaker 2:He comes with, he runs straight down it, facing down, and there's that famous shot of him sitting on top of it, where they dropped him off in a helicopter and I don't know why. The fact that he's not wearing shoes or socks makes it worse, but it does Like that's going to be a problem. Yeah, but it just so unnerves me. He's just sitting there casually on the top of the hole. It's mental, I think he is partly mental and obviously the motorbike jump was unbelievably good In the last one you had.
Speaker 2:And so the bit in the hanging train.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:It's just phenomenal.
Speaker 3:Yes, without giving too many space.
Speaker 1:Absolutely right yeah. So, all those are very relevant. I went for the hang on the side of the airplane for my favorite stunt. Yeah, I thought it was. It's mad.
Speaker 2:It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I mean he must, there can't be much thrills left for him to seek, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. I mean they must be sitting down for hours trying to I know Just pulling things out of various pots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Train mountain. Yeah, it was a bit like the old Bond films. You think, well, where haven't we been in the world? Let's go there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So the hero would be going right. What haven't we done, which is really stupid? Right, we'll do that.
Speaker 2:But he's been playing that same character since 1990.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is impossible. What was that 92? Nineteen, Was it 96?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah 96. Yes, he's been playing it Nearly 30 years, the same character.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Without actually getting better.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And not getting better, because he's evolved and he's now a talking person In the action. It's getting better. It's mad.
Speaker 1:Yes, so you mentioned running.
Speaker 2:I've got a quiz here.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I was going to do it. I wanted you to jog on the spot while you were doing it.
Speaker 2:Do you really? I'm not going to. That would have been no good for you.
Speaker 1:I would say, like a sex offender We've had some complaints about our audio, so I don't think anyone would hear what you were saying if you were running on the spot while you were doing it, but I thought it's a really good idea if you don't do that at the same time. Right, there are nine films that, according to some website which I wrote name, nine films where he does not run.
Speaker 2:He does not run.
Speaker 1:I want you to name me. It's quite six seven, I'm a beast. Ok, nine films where he does not run.
Speaker 2:Lions for land.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Well done, good start, thank you. I'm going to get his filmography up to have a look, because if I don't, then I'll Magnolia.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I don't think Dodgy. Then I was going to say he definitely doesn't run in the second half of of Ha ha ha Born on the subject of no, you're right, he doesn't do that. I think he probably runs in the first half. He certainly wrestles in the first half.
Speaker 1:Yes, he does Loses, doesn't he?
Speaker 2:Mmmmm, Does he run in Top Gun? No, he doesn't. I was going to say I don't think he runs. He walks fast away from Charlie when he's crossed with him.
Speaker 1:He does. He's crossed with the he gets on a bike.
Speaker 2:That guy here drives on yeah, that's got a pay-petulant for it I like it, so yes, he definitely runs in Days of Thunder because he runs a race against Robert DuVal At the end. Yes, yes, and they freeze-frame it. I'll race your ass. Yeah, he definitely runs in, far and Away.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because he doesn't run in a fugue of men, does he?
Speaker 1:Yes, he does.
Speaker 2:When does he run in?
Speaker 1:I think, it's when it's wet, when he's raining.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, he chases after.
Speaker 1:Joe, yeah, yeah, yeah, chases after Joe. So I'm going to put Jess up on the stand. Yes, yes, he does run there.
Speaker 2:Lestat won't run in.
Speaker 1:He doesn't run. No Interview with the vampire. He's definitely not going to run. He doesn't run. He's not going to run, is he?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:That's four, not bad. Jerry McGuire runs, I think.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I think he runs in Eyes Wide Shut as well. He doesn't, he doesn't.
Speaker 1:No, at least not according to this.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, he's in the street. I don't know if he really has.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:so according to this, he runs in Vinner the Sky because he runs in Times Square.
Speaker 1:Runs in Vinner the Sky.
Speaker 2:yes, it's a long-running shot of that.
Speaker 1:It's almost a song by the Eagles, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Collaterally runs.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:War of the Worlds he definitely runs, definitely runs. Mission Impossible he definitely runs.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 1:He doesn't run Doesn't run in Tropic Thunder. There's Grossman, but not he dances yeah there's. Grossman, but not we can't quote anything he says in there apart from the and that this month.
Speaker 2:Does he run in Rock of Ages? Probably not. He sings and dances.
Speaker 1:He might run in that because he's dancing across the stage, he's not on this list.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Not too bad, he got five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he runs in America. Yeah, he runs in Mission Impossible. Does he run in Maverick?
Speaker 1:He does run in Maverick.
Speaker 2:Okay, what else are we doing then? What are we doing 1986. 1986. Oh, color of Money, yeah, no, yeah, he doesn't run in that.
Speaker 1:Doesn't run in that Right another one 2002 and 2008.
Speaker 2:Well, he definitely runs in Goldman, but I'm on a report, so it's Goldman.
Speaker 1:He doesn't in Goldman. Yeah, he's only in it for a little bit. He's only in it for a little bit. He's only in it for a little bit. He turns around and he's only in it for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, One left 2008.
Speaker 2:Oh, that Valkyrie.
Speaker 1:Well done. So what was interesting about this that I noticed about Out of the nine films Is that 40-odd films he runs in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he runs in all of us.
Speaker 1:But out of the nine, two were 1986. Two were 1990.
Speaker 2:You've actually got tired those years.
Speaker 1:Two were 2008. How weird, so he must have gone right. I'm not running.
Speaker 2:And then hit these films. This year I'm taking a year off, sod it.
Speaker 1:I am not running in this one, so there we go. So that was his. I thought it was quite good fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was good fun. I like it.
Speaker 1:Yes, what's your favorite performance from?
Speaker 2:him, from him. Yes, interview with the vampire. I think he's absolutely wonderful in that. Rain man, I think he's so underrated. Hoffman gets all the.
Speaker 1:It's a wonderfully complex film, but I don't think he works as well If he's not the way he is in that.
Speaker 2:He's not the showy one, he's brilliant in it. I think, I think he's absolutely marvellous and collateral.
Speaker 1:And, of course, the as well. Yes, yeah, sorry, rain man, it's about him, isn't it? It's not about, because obviously Dustin Hoffman's character stays the same because he would.
Speaker 2:It's about him, His journey, yes.
Speaker 1:Warming to him and the end.
Speaker 2:I also think he's underrated in colour of money.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because he has to be obnoxious but likable.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's very difficult to pull off. You've got to care something about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he does pot a ball without looking.
Speaker 2:He got very good at that again.
Speaker 1:I thought he was very good at all. I think yeah.
Speaker 2:I think so, Collateral. I think he's brilliant in that.
Speaker 1:Collateral yes.
Speaker 2:Wonderful, brilliantly cool. He is in that Very different again.
Speaker 1:Very different.
Speaker 2:yes, Jeremy McGuire. I think he's just anchors that so superbly.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a great leading man performance and obviously Tropic Thunder he's a Les Grossman Les.
Speaker 2:Grossman is a masterpiece.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to have big hands and I want to dance. Yeah, can't quote it.
Speaker 1:No, you can't quote pretty much any of it. I put Massacro yeah, but it's yeah literally.
Speaker 2:It's so good with Bill Hader as his sort of assistant. He's his assistant.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the goodie room. He's just like every day, he's just trying to make him happy.
Speaker 2:Nothus Monkey could do a job. Seriously, nothus Monkey could do a job.
Speaker 1:I must have had something to say Klayer, at least as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2:McConaughey, that's so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I had Rain man.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Magnolia.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which I think he's creating there. Oh.
Speaker 2:Magnolia, I meant to have that Obviously yes. I was deleting stuff, because I delete stuff as I go, and I deleted the bottom performance of my performances instead of the bottom cinema visiting, and I realized I forgot what it was. So it was that, yeah, because that's an incredibly good performance.
Speaker 1:But my favorite performance is Les Grossman in Trouble Further, which is it almost does him a disservice because he's only in it in a very small role and he's completely mad. Yeah, and totally not his normal.
Speaker 2:Totally not, but it's. And he really ramps up his swearing there, makes up for yes.
Speaker 1:Makes up for probably about 15 films in that Such an insane, he just looks like he has so much fun with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's one of the. Just shows the what he's got so much in his locker when he can pull that out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brilliant. So how about your favorite performance from someone else Right In a Tom Cruise film? Here we go now.
Speaker 2:Right Gene Hackman in the film.
Speaker 1:Yes, gotta say Gene, yeah, he's nice actually even though, because he manages to make him Sort of you feel sorry for him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's difficult to do, avery.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean, that's another great Les McLimony.
Speaker 2:Les McLimony. I'm the do-drop character that I've done DVD commentary. What do you mean, you people? Unbelievably good, yes, very good. Such a great performance. Jack Nicholson and a few good men yes, I mean that whole thing. I saw an interview with him and every time they talk about that scene Rob Ryan has talked about it.
Speaker 2:He did it full bore, every single performance, even when he was off camera, when he was on camera, when it was a wide shot, the same. And they said do you want a break? Do you know, robbie? I just love that. And it was full intensity and it's just like, oh yeah, I've got no notes for that.
Speaker 1:No, what can you do, that's different in that.
Speaker 2:That's when you get great writing with a great performer and they just bang Tom Skerritt Top Gun. I love Viper.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, Viper is really good, I love.
Speaker 2:Viper, he's got such cool.
Speaker 1:Yep and he is really good.
Speaker 2:There was something about him. I just thought awesome.
Speaker 1:That's a man I'd follow. I always liked Tom Skerritt. He didn't die recently.
Speaker 3:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I think he's 90. Is he? I think I saw him on the other day that he's 90. Obviously, he will forever be, as in Drake Drake yeah, man, that Rebecca. Howell was nuts about.
Speaker 2:But I think he's just got such a level of cool I think, well, yeah, I'd almost consider flying for him myself.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Samantha Morton in Minority Report.
Speaker 1:Yes, as the pre-cog.
Speaker 2:She's just got so much.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So much sort of. So you watch us compelling, she's totally compelling.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:The great Ken Watanabe.
Speaker 3:Ken Watanabe.
Speaker 2:We both came out of our samurai in love with him Again, has to have that much charisma to be that person that everyone follows. And you think I get it Totally get it. And Paul Newman in the color of money.
Speaker 1:So you've mentioned a few there. You didn't mention Dustin Hoffman, but you mentioned a few there, where he acted alongside someone who won an Oscar.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Because obviously a few Rain man, Jerry McGuire, Keeber Gooding Jr, Paul Newman, Paul Newman, yes, yes. So there was a few there where he actually acted alongside someone who did win.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:And definitely at least held his own.
Speaker 2:He did hold his own, absolutely right. And I have to say yeah, I mean I'd be wrong to say not to include Hoffman. He is great at it.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I had three Jack Nicholson from Few Good Men. I love the story. Was it Kevin Pollock who used to do very good impressions?
Speaker 3:of him. He did, didn't he?
Speaker 1:But he had said about how good he was in a few good men. But my story about Kevin Pollock isn't about Tom Cruise film. It was about how much he enjoyed the usual suspects and the way he summarised how good the film was.
Speaker 2:he said even Baldwin's good in it. They hated each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he couldn't stand. Each other could they, he couldn't stand.
Speaker 2:He's a loon, he's the loony Baldwin, and that's saying a lot. That is saying a lot. He is a proper loon.
Speaker 1:There's a few mad Baldwin's here, so the second one was Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2:Topic Thunder so good.
Speaker 1:And my number one is Ken Watanabe from the Last Summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love him in there Just brilliantly, isn't it?
Speaker 1:I'd go to battle for him.
Speaker 2:I would as well, and I'm a known coward.
Speaker 3:A known coward.
Speaker 2:Known throughout the land.
Speaker 1:We haven't got a show booked in October. Have we October?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I just thought I was doing a part. Got one in April, but we haven't done any.
Speaker 1:I took to a park run yesterday with Jez, friend of the show Well, not a friend of the show, You've been putting in a point of listening to this but, um, yeah, thanks Jez Friend of us. And he'd said it's preparation, Our preparation is going well for the show. And I said no, we haven't got a show yet he goes. What?
Speaker 3:We've got one in April, but you're doing one soon, aren't? You so well not really I did book, of course.
Speaker 1:You got one in October at the lights. I said no, we haven't. He goes. What have I got tickets for? I said I don't know. He said, well, I'm pretty sure you were supposed to be there or there. So I told the wife to buy tickets. So we've got tickets for something in October and I have no idea what it is.
Speaker 2:No, well, it would be interesting to see what that is.
Speaker 1:You have to see it next week?
Speaker 2:No, but I have booked tentatively the theater for the end of April, haven't I?
Speaker 1:Oh, you had. Yeah, well, the last time I heard you weren't no, because we were still talking.
Speaker 2:I'm in our room where we were going to have two or three nights and we were panicked that we wouldn't feel it. We can't feel two, so we won't be feel three.
Speaker 3:But, then, I thought in the old days.
Speaker 2:Maybe now we've got such a huge network before I come from the 43 countries including unknown, and Turkey twice, stack it out. Plus, you work at a different company. I always think, oh always, just think who? What? Cliff now works at a company and they've got lots of people who can come. So it's like beg everyone that you work with to come along. And when we first started we just jumped without a safety net and booked three nights. The last night was full because of word of mouth.
Speaker 1:So you never know, yeah, we could just. But it was funny, the fact that he thinks he's got tickets for something he doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2:I'm sending his wife on a mission to buy tickets for something without any more information than that that's excellent.
Speaker 1:It's a mystery.
Speaker 2:No, so we're not doing anything in October.
Speaker 1:No good, because if you had said oh yes, I forgot, we are.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm getting married in August. No, I mean this October. Oh, this October I mean in like a month's time. Well, I mean we have rehearsed less for a show.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have yeah, yeah. So I mean like a preparation.
Speaker 2:I mean in a month's time. Oh no he's got tickets for something, got nothing. No, no, we're not doing anything in a month's time.
Speaker 1:No good Phew. Yes, you're getting married.
Speaker 2:I am.
Speaker 1:You didn't say that did we.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Do you know where?
Speaker 2:Yes, at a place called the Bear in Rodbra the Bear, I call Claire, claire Bear anyway, and it's a place called Minchampton, which is gorgeous. There's a big common there.
Speaker 1:We're talking Gloucester, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, gloucester Way, it's a lovely place to stay, though. Is it? You'll be involved quite heavily.
Speaker 1:Oh well, hopefully not in the best man capacity.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe so.
Speaker 1:I've been a best man twice, and unsuccessfully both times. No, obviously not unsuccessful.
Speaker 2:Your speeches were excellent. I'm going to have I've got three best friends, as you know. You do, I'm going to have three best men and you, so you're all best men. There's four of you, and I'm telling you this now in this lovely private place on the yes. For the first time, but out of them you are the one standing next to me during the service, right, so that's.
Speaker 1:Is that because if John does it, no one can see, because the other three will get really?
Speaker 2:bitchy about it with each other if I pick one of them over the other, so they won't argue when it's my brother.
Speaker 1:That's what Dad did, wasn't it when Dad got married?
Speaker 2:he had two best friends.
Speaker 1:And so he picked his brother-in-law.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I know they all stayed, but they all said they don't care. But I know they do, do you, don't they?
Speaker 1:It probably matters a bit, doesn't it? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of posturing that goes on about them. Obviously, it's a prestigious position to be about this friend.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's it. Yes, you don't earn it lightly, but that's why I'm saying to you now live on the podcast, that it's okay, you don't have to.
Speaker 2:When I said I want the four of you to do some kind of speech together, because James is obviously a genius with them.
Speaker 1:Oh, we can do a video with me, but Cliff won't say anything because we'll make sure he doesn't, and I said that with the four of you as a writing committee and a performing committee, it should be spectacularly good.
Speaker 2:That's all I want to say. There you go.
Speaker 1:OK well, that's very nice to hear, but OK, well, we'll see. I've already been conversing with the pimp over stag stuff, so this is nice.
Speaker 2:Well, that's as much fun as anything.
Speaker 1:It will be Right I wonder if Sharon Stone's still available.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Favorite scene, so Alright we're going to be similar on these.
Speaker 1:I think you probably the one I mentioned earlier the Jack Reacher.
Speaker 2:I like it when he duffs the youths over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yes, yes, when he takes them outside. Well, that is a good scene in the book and he says and he explains how one of you. It's five against one. It's not five against one, it's three against one.
Speaker 2:Once I take care of the leader, that's you. I've got one or two enthusiastic women. The last two, they always run.
Speaker 3:It's a great speech and it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant, and he does really take them out.
Speaker 2:Sorry, he does really take them out but isn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, in fact, when he duffs. I think there's still two who will waver.
Speaker 2:He just goes seriously. He punches him again in the nuts on his oldest foot and he looks at them and goes seriously. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Men they like it yeah.
Speaker 2:I love that scene. That is very good. The Jack Nicholson confrontation in A Few Good Men obviously.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Jessup on the stand brilliant. The opening of Magnolia. I think is absolutely brilliant when they do the incredible coincidence stories that happen. They tell the story about the guy that falls out and how fate conspires in the most incredible way in life. There was a guy who fell out with a guy at a poker table. They had a massive fight in the casino and the day after one of the two guys that was having a fight was swimming in like a lake and got scooped up by a plane.
Speaker 2:Not the forest fire plane by the forest fire plane which was being piloted by the guy he had a fight with, who had no idea he'd picked him up and dropped him on the fire Like wow. And that was an incredible story about husband and wife fighting all the time. I think one of them in the film is played by Miriam Margolies. And they're fighting all the time. And he was threatened with a gun. So the son loaded the gun because he was going to kill himself at one point.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:We wanted them to kill each other, I can't remember. And then he was fed up and he was going to kill himself because they were having a fight. So he went up to the top of the building while they were fighting and jumped to kill himself. As he flew past the window he was shot dead by the mum shooting through the window or the dad shooting through the window. The bullet happened to hit him at the second he passed past the window. So they were then done for murder and the irony is they put netting down to do some building work. So he would have survived the jump. Oh no, and it was like you can't what. And the way it's told is so brilliant. The rest of the film doesn't really match up to that. The Amy Mann soundtrack, which is lovely.
Speaker 3:And obviously.
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise is amazing in it. But, yeah, that whole opening is brilliant. The toilet fight, which I didn't mention in the stunts in Fallout, oh yeah, yeah, brilliant, and I love it when he reloads his arms. Oh yeah, henry Cavill, henry Cavill yeah, yeah. The ninja attack at two, which is obviously Two yeah two. No, way no no Two, and I think you know what one is as well, but the ninja attack in last samurai didn't draw breath during that.
Speaker 2:And then it stops and you think it's done it and then it starts again and it's like oh, oh, I don't think I could take it. It's so tense and a little kid having to file, oh yeah. It's brilliant and because you genuinely think they're a formidable foe.
Speaker 1:Well, there's no mercy on the kid either, is it the ninja's going through?
Speaker 2:Sometimes you just see their faceless enemy and you think well they'll duff these over and you think no. They generally feel like the ninjas feel totally good at their job as well. Yes, but number one I would obviously have the umbrella escape from Minority Report which is a set piece to die for.
Speaker 1:So I turned to you during and went yes, we did. You did say that. Yeah, the balloon and all that yeah.
Speaker 2:What that's like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 1:It was really, really clever, so I've got a few. The first mission impossible when he's on the wire in the vault.
Speaker 2:Many drops All the way down to it and he's like inches. That's another one. That is another brilliant moment.
Speaker 1:That was amazing. The new film, the scene with the railway carriages is genuinely exciting truly scary and it's like, oh my God. And then it's the next one, and then the next one.
Speaker 2:Oh no. And then the next one, and it's like, oh my God, it's drawn out, it's so perfectly, it's so so exciting, paced, it's so perfectly paced.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's it. G5, the whole, the whole, um topic thunder speech about the let me get this straight, yeah. Do you guys, do you guys really read that Player. My, my friend for all these years. Whatever, let him die, allowing him to jungle for some money and a G5. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:A G5 airplane, yes, and lots of play. And he just clicks the music on again and starts dancing at him.
Speaker 1:And he's doing, he's selling him all that this is what it's going to be like, and then you just turn this thing off and goes oh, you can grow a conscience in the next five minutes and see where that gets you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's a great sequence.
Speaker 1:So both the dance scenes in one in Whiskey Business and the one in Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's two dance scenes because he has an incredible credit to one, doesn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah as well, show me the money.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The whole scene there.
Speaker 2:Oh, because that's unraveling around him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Totally, I mean totally, unraveling. Yeah, you can't handle the clients, isn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 2:I hate Bob Sugar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, fugerman. Two scenes from Minority Report the escape in the factory.
Speaker 2:That's a great one, one of the cars being built around him Cars being built around him while he's escaping from. Lexus.
Speaker 1:Yes, and obviously the balloon escape or the umbrella scene from. Minority Report. My number one is the.
Speaker 2:Ninja Attack. Ninja Attack yes From the last samurai.
Speaker 1:I think the reason you've said a lot of great things about it is so fast, it is so relentless. Lots of people die. It's scary. You genuinely are going oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, every time. And then when it ends, when they all go, wha and they stop, and they're standing there with their swords and they're just going, they're just panting, aren't they? Yeah, and you, as the audience, are panting as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they're getting wha, Because I say sometimes at the back of your mind there's always something that says, well, we've got an hour 45 minutes to go in the film. They're not going to die here, and sometimes that level of thought is more prevalent than others, and other times they make you totally forget that and you feel like this could be it because it's so good, and that's one of those where you think I do not. I genuinely think they are in real trouble here.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it is. It's just so. It's so fast, it's so well done, so well choreographed, yeah, and very scary, and I was exhausted after it. Okay, so before we get into our top 10s, any films, that didn't do it for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes. Well, the Mummy which I've talked about, yes.
Speaker 2:And the other one being Cocktail. Yes, there's a great sketch by Rich Hall, the comedian Stand as a Stand Up, and it's about Tom Cruise's early films. He goes he's a pilot Damn good pilot but it has a crisis of confidence. And he has a woman who teaches him to be a better pilot and he's a cocktail maker pretty good cocktail maker has a crisis of confidence. He meets a woman who teaches him to make better cocktails and he's like he's a motor racing driver Pretty good one and he has a crisis of confidence. But meets a woman he's a better driver and it's kind of similar to that, but they're good. I mean, I enjoy days of thunder and I enjoy top gun immensely, and cocktail is just like. Who cares about making drinks?
Speaker 1:Yes, for me I'd never seen the mummy, so I had to write that down, but I imagine it's rubbish it is yeah. Cocktail is just boring. Cocktail is really about anything.
Speaker 2:That was just. And you don't care, that was just quick. He's a star, he's a red hot.
Speaker 1:Put him in something now, that was definitely a vehicle film yeah. So you've got Brian Brown and Elizabeth Shure in it, but it really is about nothing. One time not that was it maybe last year when I was really unwell, my joints were painful and I couldn't sleep, and so I stayed downstairs all night, and at two in the morning they had a showing of cocktail, and I thought I haven't seen cocktail in a long time. I think it's a bag.
Speaker 1:Give it ten minutes but bag a toot. I watched the film. I watched it because there's nothing else to do the only thing I had to look forward to and this is it was celebrities buying flats in London, and the celebrity was Brendan Cole from Strictly. Club Dancing and that was the only other thing I had to look forward to to pass the time. So I watched all of cocktail and it was just I'm fortunate, thinking it really is about nothing, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It is a colossal. I mean most of his things are reasonably entertaining. I mean really reasonably interesting, even though one's, like you know, um oblivious Interesting at least. But, that's the colossal turd in the water pipe, isn't it? Yes?
Speaker 1:Although, I must admit, I really can't stand Mission Impossible 2.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, I don't, I mean no.
Speaker 1:I think it's. I find it interesting.
Speaker 2:I think it's it's.
Speaker 1:The only thing about it is Thandi Newton's very nice.
Speaker 2:You have a thing with John Woo, I don't like John Woo films.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's just, but it's it's. When you watch all of the films the Mission Impossible it stands out as quite different. Yeah, and it just doesn't work for me and I don't like it and I um, yes, I don't like Mission Impossible 2 at all. That was the reason why I nearly didn't go to see Mission Impossible 3 at cinema. But, it was the choice of that, and I like 3 a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, 3 is excellent, but 2 put me off. The first one was very good. No, no, but what I mean is I'm surprised. I'm surprised how good I I mean Brad Bird did 3 and I was surprised. How, what, how good it was. I was properly. It was very different again. I actually thought he was a superb villain. Oh, when he has his wife there, I was like, oh, it was horrible.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, horrible. Yes, yes, yes, philipsy Moffa has a very good villain, yeah, okay. So do you want to mention anything that didn't make the cut, or do you want to go straight into your top?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll say, the one that didn't make the cut, that I was, I, I. I limited it for some reason. I just thought there's so many. I limited it on the Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1:Did you?
Speaker 2:So Ghost Protocol didn't make it, which I like a lot. Yeah and Dead Reckoning, part 1.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And the Firm which I love. Okay, but didn't make it in. So there there's 3 glaring.
Speaker 1:I mean so you've only got one Mission Impossible in your 10. How many have I?
Speaker 2:got One, yeah, okay, and I like them all. I mean, I love Ghost Protocol. He's got so many good bits in it. Yep, the bit when they suddenly killed Tom Wilkinson, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And he's in the car.
Speaker 2:They start oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. All of them. I love that. Yeah, Right, 10. Yep Edge of Tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Right, yep, well she's brilliant, Yep.
Speaker 2:I mean it's absolutely cracking, isn't it? Yes? Round all day with aliens Mixed with, yeah, little scary aliens.
Speaker 1:I think she needed that as well, because he had done a bit of, had a bit of lull. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that didn't. It did all right, it did really work, but it could have done better. I think it didn't do better because people thought it was just another one, like what he's been turning it in. Yeah, but it's absolutely a cut above that.
Speaker 1:Definitely stands out. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Such an entertaining bit of film and Emily Blunt's great in it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And late great Bill Paxton. Bill Paxton, yeah, and some of the deaths are brilliant, yeah. And just you know, when he rolls, tries to roll away. Oh, I did the part under the truck and I think it's a great concept. The alien and the alien things are horribly scary. They are. Yeah, I mean, they're up there with Starship Troopers in terms of it's a similar thing, yeah, yeah. So number nine is the color of money.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Which again is a terrific. I mean it's kind of a low key Scorsese because he was making that.
Speaker 1:It is it's more dramatic, yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's a great study of the, of the characters, the characters him and Paul Newman's characters and it's a great follow up to Eddie Felsen, years, years later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, paul.
Speaker 2:Newman is brilliant. It was clearly going to walk off with the Oscar that year. Apparently, all the other nominees went out and drank a drink of toast to themselves because they knew they weren't going to win that year. Paul Newman was the lunatic Gary Boosie who was nominated for the Buddy Holly story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is a, he is a lunatic.
Speaker 2:He is a proper lunatic.
Speaker 1:He's in the firm, isn't he? Yeah, he's great in there, he's the detective.
Speaker 2:Hulu Iglesias. He has that big cannon under the table.
Speaker 1:Cannon under the table. Yeah, holly Hunters, holly Hunters, where are you getting that as well? We got that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, david Strathen, yeah, it's a wonderful cast and obviously you know Ed Harris Flamie. It's a great cast.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and I genuinely loved it from the start, and whenever it's on I'll watch the colour of money. I could dip in and find it at any point.
Speaker 1:You were hustler.
Speaker 2:Liners oh, that's a great scene. I could have mentioned that scene Great scenes Iman, forest Whitaker.
Speaker 1:That's a terrific scene with Forest Whitaker Brilliant scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Paul tournaments are great. Yeah, and they were enough Scorsese master strokes in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Camera work editing Wonderful camera work yeah.
Speaker 2:And I love the story about how Tom Cruise Like the coat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, Paul Newman.
Speaker 2:He was in there and he'd chosen the jacket he wanted away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had to choose the wardrobe like six months in advance. Yeah, and then Paul.
Speaker 2:Newman just looked at me because it was like in the middle of the cargo. Freezing, yeah, freezing. And Paul Newman was in a big fur coat, with gloves, with a hat and not a hat, with a heater in his car yeah, he just turned to Tom Cruise and he was freezing to there.
Speaker 2:He went, chose your wardrobe in the summer, didn't you? He's been? What a lesson to learn. That is this brilliant. And he's like, yeah, just sat there, comfortable, number eight, top Gun, maverick Lovely, which would probably be higher in a few years. Yep, it's just. I've seen it twice now. Yes, it is stunning. It had so much to lose as well.
Speaker 1:Totally, he must have been rubbish.
Speaker 2:He must have been so confident in how good it was to hold it for that long, even after he made it to hold it, saying no, no, we'll wait for COVID to be over, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's he's right, it's absolutely right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely right In the cinema. I was thrilled beyond, beyond measure. I've never been thrilled about that in my life. And anyway it was, and it's brilliantly paced again. Holds, it, grips you from the start. He's, it's. Yeah, it will only get better. I think as I go through yes, Seven Rain man, Yep, Got it, Rain man.
Speaker 1:That was a really good film.
Speaker 2:Wonderful chemistry with those two. Funny touching Again, a wonderful character arc of him. He has the journey as you say. It's about him, Just that you know, when he rests his head on him at the end I just get it. All gets me. Yeah, and it doesn't work if they're not both brilliant. No, and they are both brilliant and it's.
Speaker 1:Well, it's the scene with it's Gerald R Mullen, isn't it? There's the um Wahlbrook bloke and he says at the end you know, it's not about the money, it's about why didn't anyone tell him he had a brother. And he says because it'd have been nice to have known him for more than the last six days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking but, um, I wouldn't ask another one when it's on. Oh yeah, I'll watch Raymond and six Collateral.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, which looks very good, Looks fair. I mean, that was Michael Mann, michael.
Speaker 2:Mann and his most, michael Mann.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was.
Speaker 2:He was like, yeah, I'm the colours, what's?
Speaker 1:your favourite Michael.
Speaker 2:Mann, my favourite Michael Mann. Oh, good lord. Well I know it's either last of the Mohicans.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Heat or manhunter yeah yeah, flipping out, that's a good three. Yes, I mean he's made some rather great ones.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, best last six minutes or anything.
Speaker 2:I do love manhunter. I mean, he's a masterpiece. Tim Thornton Got the great Tim Thornton, Hello Tim Thornton, Orchestrator and inventor of Thornton's Arrow. He watched Heat from the beginning the other week because he normally dips in the films after about 20 minutes and misses the start of many I need to forgot. Now good, the opening heist and everything. And Wayne Groh had to make a move.
Speaker 3:He was getting it on.
Speaker 2:Had to make a move, but it's a great film. Heat whenever that's on.
Speaker 1:Okay, anyway, collateral.
Speaker 2:Collateral would be number four probably on that list.
Speaker 1:Yes, but again because it's about an assassin who basically has a taxi driver. Take him on loads of jobs on the night.
Speaker 2:And he, while he, while he bumps off everybody. That's a witness to that, you know.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And it's so exciting. The dialogue in between is so brilliant, though.
Speaker 1:He is such a cool character.
Speaker 2:There's not tons of action, no, but the tension is there the entire time. Once he finds out what he is, the dialogue's really gripping up to the point when he you know, did you shoot that man, did you kill that man? No, I shot him. The fall and the bullet killed him, it's. And then he suddenly kills those guys who've taken his briefcase and you think, oh this, it just ramps up a gear.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then you could feel I mean, jamie Foxx has to be good as well to keep that, but it looks magnificent and I think he's a very different role for him and I think he's brilliant in it. Vincent is quite a scary, chilling character with very charismatic Okay, and a very small cameo from Jason. Statham.
Speaker 1:Oh is he? I didn't know Jason.
Speaker 2:Statham hands Tom Cruise the weapon in the airport as he's coming out as a bloke he just who just obviously hands it to him too because he can't carry it through customs.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So as a bloke who just meets in the airport.
Speaker 1:Finally enough.
Speaker 2:Jason Statham. When I went to watch the Mission Impossible film, the two trailers were both for Jason Statham films in terms of they were the Meg the Meg to the trench and the expendables whatever, and basically Jason Statham. I saw a trailer the other day when I was watching. I watched the next three days, which I liked was a Russell Crowe film, underrated.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I watched that the other day and on the DVD it was a trailer for the transport and this is like 20 years ago and he looks exactly the same and he's basically doing exactly the same thing 20 years later. And, I think, all of his roles are totally lift up, drop into a different film, they're all the same.
Speaker 3:Jason Statham.
Speaker 1:I think I've only actually seen one of his films and I don't know what it is. He's a prisoner and he's driving a car in like a race. But he's a prisoner. I was in like he's in a, an actual prison, and he's made to drive a car, but I don't know what it is, but that's the only film I've seen that I can think of Jason Statham. It used to be an Olympic diver. Yeah, I know, I still can't believe that he was actually a British diver.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I did a jump into a plunge pool in France on holiday Five meter plus, whatever it was and I got up to the top, looked down. It's a long way into the water.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I did say an expletive to myself just before I jumped in. It was oh, and then I said something.
Speaker 2:I went. Were you like, did you go? Whoa?
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 1:I did that, but that word is what I used.
Speaker 2:Well, I went to swimming in Putney with with Damien Samuels, I believe, and I don't know if he was there this time, but we went up to the high board Damien is reasonable swimmer and we went to jump off the high board.
Speaker 2:There's a high platform, yeah, and I terrified, yeah, cause I mean I nearly drowned as a kid and I've been terrible, I hate put my head under water still to this day, yeah. And we went up there and everyone sort of jumped off. It was just left me and three kids, or two kids, and one of them was about nine and one of them was about four or five.
Speaker 1:What are you doing up there?
Speaker 2:Um, actually not five, maybe about five or six, and the other one was about nine or 10. Yeah, Obviously a much more carefree time, and there was a little rope. You had to go through the rope to jump off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was just us. Everyone else had gone. And I thought and then suddenly the nine year old or 10 year old went and the six year old looked at me in this way, cause the six year old was not allowed to jump or something. The six year old just looked at me, lifted the rope up and looked at me as if to say you've got to go now. And it was like I got totally shamed into it and I went. I was so for long as I was walking to the gallows. I walked to the end and I thought I actually did the Robert Redford and jumped and I was the only way I could do it.
Speaker 1:And it was like awful.
Speaker 2:It felt like forever on the way down. Yeah, terrifying, yeah, but shamed by a six year old kid. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So my 10, number 10 is the firm Excellent, yeah, as I said, I really enjoy the. How is he going to get out of this? Everyone's after him. I really liked, I mean, and that sort of underlying feeling of creep all the way through the fact that your hand picked.
Speaker 2:And that old Albao. They own you, Albao and Amanda. Quite sinister.
Speaker 1:Yes, always.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Saw and he is.
Speaker 2:He's also in Mr B Bernie, yeah he's a good guy, yes, and the only thing that doesn't wind me up. The only thing is this is very plinky plonk music, sort of jazz piano all the way through. Yeah, but yeah, great film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really liked it, Really liked the acting, lots of good people. Number nine is Mission Impossible dead reckoning, part one.
Speaker 3:Excellent, which may end up going high oh yeah, very exciting.
Speaker 2:I did not feel it. It went like a flash for something that's 2040 minutes or whatever it was. It was so exciting.
Speaker 1:I've been trying to get some people and they know who they are to go to the cinema to watch it, and they haven't but they're too busy watching things like cobweb and stuff, but exactly.
Speaker 2:So, what chance have you got? What chance have you got?
Speaker 1:Exactly so. Number eight is Edge of Tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Excellent which.
Speaker 1:I do think, as I said, I think he sort of he came back to like oh yeah, it's really good Tom Cruise films, I think, because he'd done a few big like U-Blivions. I don't know what order these films are, but yeah he'd done a few films where he thought they were right, but he's losing a bit of his power.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had just made. He'd made Ghost Protocol in there, which is excellent, but he'd just made Night and Day, Rock of Ages, the First Outreach, and U-Blivion before it. So it was a bit of hit and miss.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's right. So this one was a proper win, as you said. Emily Blunt's really good in it. It's a really good story. The aliens are nasty.
Speaker 3:But it's just really well done.
Speaker 1:It must be a difficult film to have made.
Speaker 2:Yeah, affected by Doug Liman or Lehman Lehman.
Speaker 1:Lehman, lehman. Yes, exactly Lehman.
Speaker 2:Horrid name.
Speaker 1:Seven is A Few Good Men. Yeah, talking about Lehman. Lehman because written by Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker 2:On Coptown Napkins. Very, yeah, very, when I was working in a big Broadway theatre and during the it was at the bar and when everyone was when the show was on, he would write A Few Good Men on Napkins.
Speaker 1:Trific story. Really well done, great performances. He's very good in it. Obviously so's Jack Nicholson. Keith Southerland's a good oily tea.
Speaker 2:Always a proper good villain, isn't he Kevin Bacon's good fun?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's really good, Very high on my courtroom drama Ten, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so very good, and I think JT Walsh and I think that's John Simmons' favourite.
Speaker 1:Tom Cruise A.
Speaker 2:Few Good Men. My wobby. I ran with him this month.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Well, I walked a little bit, ran a little bit, we covered. We covered six miles in a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've done that. There we go. The number six is Rain man. Yep, great, as I said very much his film, and it's another film that sort of goes under the radar, in the sense of you feel, though it's like Justin Hoffman, but it's about him, as in the brother, and how he changes from the start to wanting just to get the money and he's a nuisance to becoming a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he wants to do it. Come to start, despite his dad.
Speaker 1:Yes, because he didn't get on at all.
Speaker 2:So I mean, those are road bushes. That's what he's saying yes.
Speaker 1:So so it's a terrific film, particularly the bit where he goes to the house, where Dustin Hoffman wants to come into the house and he's sort of starting to throw a bit of a wobble and the person he's basically lying to try and get into what's the telly.
Speaker 2:And then he says I'm really sorry, I lied to you.
Speaker 1:This is whatever he needs to. What's the telly?
Speaker 2:It's a great jump cut when they say to watch something. They say would you be all right watching this? The kids and they cut to it and they're watching what he was watching. I always thought for ages when I was younger that there was like that. James Stewart had a cameo. Because there's that bloke when he's in the, when he's first doing the bit with the toothpicks and he's fighting out. There's that bloke just talking in the lobby over that period of time and he sounds like he.
Speaker 1:Sounds like Jimmy. Stewart, it's just oh, oh oh, oh, no, that's right, I like it. So that's my six. So off you go. Number five a few good men.
Speaker 2:The dialogue's brilliant. As you'd expect, you're talking funny. I mean, he's properly brash and cocky, but funny. And again, the courtroom stuff is as good as as good as you get really, and the the bit with I mean to get him like that. The only way you can get him is to make him confess because of his bullishness.
Speaker 2:He doesn't want to be told, because he doesn't want to be told by a snotty young punk that you've, that's the only plan you've got to get him and it's, but it's so well done, totally believable, great cast. Rob. Rob Reiner was on a massive run at the heat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's prolific there.
Speaker 2:Absolutely prolific, and that was probably the end of his run of hits, I think.
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it was you know he's done this read before and then obviously they were the one, the only one great one after that, which was the American president. Oh, yes, that was good, but up to that it was all all killer. No filler, wasn't it? Yes, okay. So number four is the last samurai Yep, which is is absolutely splendid. Another great bit in that is when they first their first battle and they come out of the smoke.
Speaker 1:Yes, scary oh the battle scenes are great.
Speaker 2:The battles are great and that relationship with him and the sort of guy that stuffs him over a lot yes, the real expert with the sword and his journey there. But obviously Ken is just totally charismatic and it's moving, very moving, perfect.
Speaker 3:Perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that again experience at the cinema, that.
Speaker 1:I that was a cinema.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Hold close to my heart Number three in Mission Impossible Fallout, which I think is my favorite of the Mission Impossible. So the chase around Paris, the motor on the motorbikes, it's just. The fight in the in the toilet is unbelievable with the. Japanese, the Chinese guy, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, yeah, he's. Yeah, I'd say Japanese, or whatever.
Speaker 2:He is, but he's probably, he's probably scary. You generally think you can take them both.
Speaker 1:Yes, right, yeah, and another fight where you, you feel like it hurts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the bit when you know you see his wife again and the villains, the villains. Good, you feel jeopardy all the way through. The action sequences are fantastic, but the plot moves, the action, yeah. I like it when it's not exposition, action, exposition, action. It's all driving itself, yep, and I think it's the standout so far, which is saying something, because I genuinely love a lot of them. Yes, Number two Jerry Maguire.
Speaker 1:Really Okay. I just realized what you know. One is, that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, jerry Maguire Again wonderful, a wonderful screenplay, wonderful soundtrack, wonderful relationship and journey that he goes on for having a moral conscience. He gets ostracized and it's a proper, because again it's like it's a different type of everybody's trying to get you. You want to get, you want to get them back. It's not like people are hunting you down to kill you. These people have screwed him over in in his work totally and you really want to screw bulb sugar over? Yeah, he has one client and that's it he has to work like and that client is brilliant Cuba Gooding Jr. The great relationship between Cuba Gooding Jr and his wife.
Speaker 1:Let's not forget he's got an eagle in it as well.
Speaker 2:It has got an eagle Glenn Freyja's in it.
Speaker 1:Glenn Freyja is the head coach. He is the head coach of the Cardinals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Regina. King is the wife and she's great in it. It shows a proper family unit those two. They show him how to love properly.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:When he sees the relationship.
Speaker 1:How they are.
Speaker 2:He sees that he can because he's very distant, a very distant person who's just like you know, great. Cameo from the late great Got my brain out.
Speaker 1:The wife of the wife of the wife of John Jovolta, who died recently. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:As the as his girlfriend who is just all about status, isn't she Loose as she rock climbing woman? But yes, she, it's a great. It's a great film from and the soundtrack, as I said, excellent he's. He's a wonderful lead in it, yes, and I am. It's very, very, very, very good from start to finish, but not number one. One is Minority Report. I wish I've loved ever since the first sort. Yes, loose, a little master strokes in it. It's a great concept.
Speaker 2:Oh yes really good really good content, a really good twist to it the actual Villains good villains. Great the scene with the release in the spiders to find him, the eye operation, all those things and that I see the future as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also the. You know the way that you're. The adverts will pick you by looking at you and we'll talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, directly to you. Well, that's basically what my phone does, my phone gives me adverts for stretchy trousers all the time. It like it knows something.
Speaker 1:Yep and. I was talking about Disneyland the other week, other day, friday, it was and then I looked on one of my social media things. Probably an hour later I thought ever for Disney land, it's mad.
Speaker 2:I thought, yeah, that is what is what's happening.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're moving in that that, in that direction I was thinking, someone knows everything about me.
Speaker 1:I mean, you feel like I must be okay because they pick me up. Yet I.
Speaker 2:There's something I absolutely struggle with and I can't I refuse to watch in it, which is the sun disappearing, which is obviously the pivotal bit. Why is he's all messed up? Because his kid goes missing? Oh, yes, yes, as a parent, I can't watch that at all At all. Yeah and I know it's in there, and that's the key to why you think he's gonna kill. Goodbye.
Speaker 3:Goodbye.
Speaker 2:Goodbye crow, yeah, so that bit I cut, I turn off what's happening turn over or pretend to do something.
Speaker 1:I turn off a bit in the dip. I can't the dip with a little shoe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's murder total murder in front of all the coppers. They let him do it. It's disgusting. It's my corruption of the highest level. I don't think anyone's ever done anything more villainous in any film. Nothing as horrid as that, yeah, and any drop to piano on his brother's head.
Speaker 1:Yes, he did yes.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's my one.
Speaker 1:Number five for me is mission impossible fallout.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just say really good. I mean, at that point they, they were just so good, those films.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Henry Cavill's really good. The whole helicopter sequence is brilliant. It just goes by so quickly and I really yeah, yeah well, we've already talked about it a lot it's definitely it's like very exciting these films. That's what I like, very yeah, and it's it.
Speaker 2:I mean a lot of action films. If action films aren't done Well, they would just Glaze over it would be it would easily fall apart. These you can watch. You can be watching stuff and think I just I've seen it all before in some form or another. I'm not. I'm not invested in the excitement, I'm not invested in the jeopardy.
Speaker 3:It's something that's happening in front of me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as that's, that's louder than normal. Yes, and then when something's great. Yeah, it doesn't have to be huge.
Speaker 1:It has to have, just has to get. You has to have your emotion. Yes, I thought otherwise. You just think, yeah, yeah, big set piece, and then they go away, and then another big set piece and they go away and it's all very impressive, but it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You gotta, you gotta feel it. So I think you do in those films.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely right.
Speaker 1:That's fine. No, before is Top Gun Maverick. Yeah, I thought he's Terrific much better than it had any right any right to be, because I was thinking what, why would you? Why would you go back? That's the thing I mean. Top Gun is a really good film, but it's never been critically regarded as a really good film. It's great fun, it's great and the aerial shots are terrific.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're not as terrific as these ones, yeah but the dialogue was a bit dodge and it's a bit formulaic, whereas Top Gun, maverick I mean the fact that they got nominated for best picture. Yeah, we'll tell you how good the film is, because it would have had every reason. People would have been all over it trying to hope it would be bad.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's right for a knocking down exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it wasn't and that's a and that's Because the film is so well done and it looks brilliant and it's so exciting throwback and so much of the stuff done probably throwbacks are not More kiss your overly sentimental.
Speaker 2:There they are, they get you, but they're not just like been thrown in to try and Win you over. Yeah, it's all pitched perfect. Yeah, I love a bit Jennifer Conley always. Yes, penny Benjamin, penny Benjamin, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's four. Three is mission impossible, rogue nation. So that's the other one I genuinely love which is I thought was that was the film, even though ghost protocol was very good. That was the film why I suddenly thought these are great again. Yeah, and I thought that was terrific. I love the characters. I love the way he tricks the villain.
Speaker 2:He's got the the openings great with the other area plane as well Hang on there I'm playing the other agent. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, rogue nation is a brilliant film, yeah.
Speaker 1:I just thought it was really really good and it ages ahead of a little bit of a double?
Speaker 2:is that when ball, when I'll help double cross, or is that in full out? I can't remember using. The thing is set up and he's wearing a mask and it's actually they. It's. I think that's fallout. But yeah, bourbon's really good in that, because you don't know where what side of the fence ball wins on dear. Yeah, it's. Yeah, the set pieces a bit in the the big theater. Yeah, with the sniper and.
Speaker 1:And it's got the woman character in it also.
Speaker 2:First great in it. She's great in it and I thought he's a really good. First thing she had to do in the whole film was jump out of that window with him in that dress. Huh and apparently she swore him all the way down.
Speaker 1:Yeah so that was three. Number two is minority report.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Terrific film. I like said like great idea, but Gensri's in the ball.
Speaker 2:Spielberg before he can um, so he can make such different types of films so well, so seamlessly, so flawlessly.
Speaker 1:Yes, because that wasn't really a spillbook. No, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you make some like where it's all about it's a huge spec. I mean, that is a spectacle. Me it was like, almost like came out like an in, like a little indie film in terms of like, oh, minority reports coming out. Hmm and it wasn't hyped and mentally it was just like this is excellent. Yeah, I'm just I'm just gonna knuckle down and turn out a really good movie.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I particularly enjoy seeing it. The cinema it was really really good from. Number one is the last. Samurai which I thought was absolutely brilliant. Now, usually thing, let's say a negative thing about it, because I think the last samurai would make my top ten yeah films if it wasn't for the last scene in the throne room yeah. I think you don't need you don't need that.
Speaker 1:You could have ended it before and it would have been yeah, it kind of isn't over kill of it Maybe don't need it, but up until then, the I mean. Yes, it's a story that's been sort of told before, but it was. He's terrific. Ken Watanabe is terrific, so is them, all the people in the in the village, all the samurais. Yeah the, the whole way he becomes the guy.
Speaker 2:They just never says oh yes, his bodyguard, bodyguard who does actually? Save. Yeah, he does say the battle, the battle is great. Little payoff that I love it. Little payoffs Straight away Ed's wick, of course you know, I particularly quite like I think you know what my favorite Ed's wick film is there? Well, I'm I just. It is glory, yeah, but but last samurai is up there. I think yeah, he used to just turn out Best cinematography wins. He did because he won for that. He won for Legends of the fall.
Speaker 2:Then obviously the I don't need one for samurai, but the cinematography is excellent again. Yes, so he, he knows how to stage a battle. He does a sweeping epic, he does, yeah, you very well.
Speaker 1:I mean Tony Goldburn is. It is the villain In this last samurai.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it when now he meets him on the battlefield is good fun Um but it's it's all the little chat. Yeah, um, it's just um Really exciting, really thrilling. It looks great.
Speaker 2:I quite like love the scene where you, the other slow motion, simway, does those where they attack him. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, um, that's really good, yes, so basically he gets ambushed in in the city and he beats them, and then you go back to it and you show it in slow motion.
Speaker 2:So how he managed to do it. It's a good scene as well.
Speaker 1:So, yes, that's really good, but, um, yeah, it's, it's the dignity and class of the Ken Watanabe is character is always for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yes and when.
Speaker 1:When people die, it's genuinely sad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, even when they kill the black at the beginning. Who's the enemy? Mortal enemy? There's respect isn't there in the first battle. That's when he first realizes that they're not these monsters that he's been led to believe.
Speaker 1:And the relationship with him and the woman who's who's staying in the house of whose husband he he is killed in battle.
Speaker 2:who looks very scary in the red armor?
Speaker 1:Yes, that is pretty nasty. Yeah, it's got a head Billy Conley in it.
Speaker 2:Billy.
Speaker 1:Conley Timothy Spall in it.
Speaker 2:I've mad me and all weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my limited Billy Conley impersonation there right, I liked it like, so that was my. It was an excellent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I kind of figured that would be yes, it's a glorious lovely.
Speaker 1:So the women's World Cup's been yes, it's been very good, very excited, and we were very good. Unfortunately, we came up against a team who were better than us on the day.
Speaker 2:They were.
Speaker 1:Which was a shame.
Speaker 2:So You're gonna ask me which females sports does. I would kiss on the lips without their permission. That's a very good question.
Speaker 1:But the question might actually gonna ask you is what's your favorite thing to have with mash?
Speaker 2:Oh, oh oh well, egg fried egg.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah sausage. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You need something. You need something to provide the source of this dry. Yeah, I mean Gravy. Yes, that mash and gravy. I could just eat tons of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I like pie and mash, but I think I would I would air to a really a really fine sausage or lots of, In fairness, I also like I used to make a sandwich yes. Mash with cucumber. We're not keep a mash with beetroot in it. Top of it right sandwich, because we used to have salad bits everywhere. I used to just make a sandwich with all the bits that were there, and but my favorite will be mash cheese and beetroot. Oh, try it, ladies German.
Speaker 1:So I used to like what I was thinking about when you did that, that dish. I was thinking I would have had two slices of bread and I'd have had a layer of mash. I'd have chopped up some other sausages, put them on there, maybe some beans on top, and then put the top of the yeah, yeah, and that's a good sound also if we had like it with Haddock or something and some mash and some process peas. Yeah that used to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, precious peas, and I would put that that goes mash in a sandwich as well. Yeah, precious piece, go get a bum wrap. They're an excellent. I used to love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I quite like precious pieces.
Speaker 2:So marrow fat pea marrow fat. I think it's the name that leads you down a path, or it's not really nice. Yeah, yeah, marrow fat, but I used to like them a lot, yeah. Not like marrow bone, which is like no, yeah, we used to give that to dogs, it was nasty.
Speaker 1:The worst dog food I ever tasted was chappy Do you used to hear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to try it for a party trick. I always like to eat a little bit of food. Yes, I did.
Speaker 1:But I would say there's lots of things I would obviously with mash is a good thing yeah so yeah, a pie and a mash is nice used to love a mash sandwich.
Speaker 2:I remember you used to always Put your mash in. Yeah, whack it between two nice bits of bread.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and so sausages, yes. Told him the whole with the mash is no it's like it with faggots from the faggots brain. It's rainish faggots and some peas yeah that was nice, because the source I'm not faggots for years it's like what it says on the wall of the gents but what I'm picking for my mash now, it needs to close your eyes thinking about it. Right, so I've got a bed of mash, circular bed of mash at the bottom. Yes asparagus spears.
Speaker 2:I do like asparagus spears across on top of the mash on top of that, a cod.
Speaker 1:Yeah probably either pan fried, if it holds together, or poached in Milk right. So on the top of that and then on the top of the cod, a poached egg. Oh, yeah, do like it, right, like that and then the idea is, you skewer the egg and it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I said, I did say I love a poached egg. Sometimes, you know, sometimes I've poached egg like 40 different ways in terms of whirlpool, sometimes, what, what vinegar? Sometimes, you know, I think well, I'm not sure which one dipping it in an aramican sometimes, and hold its position making it swerve and sometimes you think, oh, that one's just right.
Speaker 2:And then the next one yeah, I'm playing golf, it's gone again. You think I can it for good shots in a row, and then I crap and it's gone again. Yeah, but I, but I. Even the ones that don't look great always tastes great. But then they look amazing on top.
Speaker 1:Makes it makes a dish look cultured, if you like a poached egg on the top yes, it just gives me some extra, but it's the combination of those things as a On the fork yeah is very impressive. Okay, we're in for dinner today.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's the first day of school tomorrow. Let's go back and teaching. So I said I might do a roast.
Speaker 1:It's the first day of school for young William tomorrow secondary school so we're thinking let's do a roast.
Speaker 2:Well, low, low let's it to me, daddy, we're all, we're all here. You could do a roast for everyone and I said that's, that's okay. Yes, I can. That's like three hours of my yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah while you watch films and come in with the end, and I'm gonna be there with juggling all the different things.
Speaker 2:So thanks for pimping me out. Well, with my limited oven space I'm trying to do seven different veg.
Speaker 1:Oh, our ovens broken, that's a point.
Speaker 2:We've any got, use the top oven. May night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's shorted on this and and that's true that might affect our roast dinner the roast potatoes, I might I get my roasters right, which I do. I have to think about this now. Well, I'm not sure then, so, but that was the plan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a big one big day tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is. Anyway, it's nice to catch up.
Speaker 2:It's lovely to see you, lovely to see we will. Yeah, now the school holidays are ever, I'm sure we will get. We will Be more regular.
Speaker 1:Yes, we'll be nice and we'll see what we come up with the next one.
Speaker 2:But all this and I'm gonna have lunch with Tim Thornton and Damien Samuels to friends of the show on Wednesday and I will bring your t-shirt to you, tim Thornton.
Speaker 1:Oh right, yes, I'll show them. I should have to dig it out then. Yes all right, remind me before you go. I will and take the bag out. So Thank you very much everyone for listening.