What If It Did Work?
What If It Did Work?
From Self-Doubt to Self-Confidence: Joel Bein on Transforming Limiting Beliefs for Personal Empowerment
Unlock genuine freedom and self-confidence with Joel Bein, the visionary founder of Human Liberation, as we explore the intricate journey of overcoming self-doubt. Ever wondered how even the most successful individuals silence their inner critic? Joel's innovative approach to subtracting negative subconscious beliefs is your answer. He guides us to shift the focus from external validation to internal belief systems, empowering us to live authentically without the crutch of endless self-help routines.
Joel shares compelling insights into how deep-seated beliefs shape our daily lives and decision-making. With engaging narratives, like the "Santa Claus effect," he illustrates how recognizing and confronting false beliefs can lead to personal empowerment and lasting release from childhood conditioning. Through his transformative method, Joel encourages us to challenge our self-worth beliefs, money anxieties, and the loneliness often felt in entrepreneurship, offering practical tools to clear these limiting beliefs and foster personal growth.
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I never told no one that my whole life I've been holding back. Every time I load my gun up so I can shoot for the star, I hear a voice like who do you think, all right, another day, another dollar.
Speaker 2:Another one of my favorite episodes of my favorite podcast. Yes, I'm biased, it's my own podcast and I'm super excited to have Joel Bynne, joel Bein, the founder of Human Liberation, where he has helped dozens of ambitious professionals permanently unlearn self-doubt which we all need that and unlock their true potential. As a former CEO of CareerHackers, joel empowered thousands through mindset shifts and collaborated with thought leaders like Isaac Morehouse and Derek Silvers. Joel helps visionary entrepreneurs do what most struggle with go from battling self-doubt, fear, to unlocking their true potential without relying on endless self-help routines, therapy or meditation. Joel has created a breakthrough method and transformative ideas on self-growth and authentic living. He shares these insights with his audience on the Joel Vine Show. How's it going, brother Doing?
Speaker 3:well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:Dude, I love that intro man. So what you're telling me is for all of us. You know, for a while I was a seminar junkie. I was. I was going to you. Put it to you this way I I did the mastery university with tony robbins. I had to go all the way to Fiji to complete that. I've done all the Zig Ziglar certs so I can sell and I can say I'm doing doing everything through a higher purpose.
Speaker 2:Grant Cardone, I did the personal and the business development and I did implement it. But when it comes to personal doubt, it was personal development. I was. I was there, but it was always like I to go. Because, maybe because you know I was always chasing happiness I thought maybe one more certification or one more hit a dopamine and that's it. You know, nirvana was going to happen, the pearly, you know. God was going to shine a light on me, the clouds were going to open up and happiness was going to be bestowed to me. Zero self-doubt, I was just going to. All my limiting beliefs were just going to go to the wayside, because I was a student of personal development.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a common story. I can relate to that for sure. I mean, we take in the new information, we add information, right, we read the books, go to the seminar, do the affirmations, listen to the podcast, all this stuff. I've done this stuff and there's so much value. What I'm interested in is number one instead of adding, subtracting. And number two, getting to the root cause of what is that self-doubt. So I'm interested in connecting with entrepreneurs who are struggling, like many of us do, but then getting curious. Okay, you have this inner, inner critic, you have this money anxiety, even though you're making a lot of money. You have underlying racing thoughts, you have anxiousness, you have imposter syndrome, even though you, on paper, have all this success. Perhaps you hear that voice and then we, we, we add in information to quell the voice and oftentimes that even is helpful. Right, it can be really empowering. We get stoked up, we muscle our way over the self-doubt and I'm not denying that that can be valuable.
Speaker 3:What I'm interested in is what if we subtract at the root level, what is actually causing these negative thoughts, emotions and behaviors? And it's the beliefs. It's the negative beliefs that are in the subconscious mind that are creating that domino effect of negative thoughts, negative emotions, negative actions. Right, and so what I'm doing with this approach is we're getting connected to the subconscious mind and we're getting connected to the specific beliefs and then we unlearn that belief. I can talk more about that, but when we unlearn and we subtract it, we pull up the weed that's in the garden. Then we create the freedom we don't. We no longer have these, these, these critics continuing to to try to knock us down. We can continue to shave down the self-doubt and quiet the noise in our heads. It's it incredible. I can keep going, but I'll stop there.
Speaker 2:You can keep going as much as you want because, you know, for the longest time I would never, even I would laugh if someone said, even mentioned subtraction To me. I always lied to myself and said, well, it's like a tool belt, it's like a toolbox, I need to have one more tool, I need to keep on adding things and without ever really looking at what was causing all this self-doubt, what was causing imposter syndrome. Man, I've had over you. You know, people always want to give me the cyber hug and the kudos because, you know, oh, I podcast season four. We've hit over 500 000 downloads. But to me I'm always. You know who am I? I'm, you know, I'm not andy for sola, I'm not ed my let, I'm not any of these heavy hitters.
Speaker 2:And it's like always that imposter syndrome that whenever something bad happens, it's that knee jerk reaction. Like a couple of weeks ago I was ghosted. I did back to back days of taping and both guests never showed up, zero, zero reasoning. And you know, after the second one it was like, oh, you see, I knew it. They think I suck, I'm a fraud. And the third guest, which was days later, she was three minutes late, which usually, you know, but already into the one minute and like, oh my gosh, nobody wants to be on my show. Am I? Am I stuck? Am I no more episodes? Do I have to do these solo? Do I have to beg people? And it was like no, because it was all that stuff, all that self-doubt from from the past that you know creeps up on you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and what we usually do, what we learn to do when we read the books and so forth. We go to the seminars and we do the affirmations, we try to reframe it right and this is valuable. I know there's so much powerful, just super overriding affirmational language we can use which, like a Tony Robbins or whatnot, can basically wash away but temporarily that self-doubt, we can reframe it. We can say oh no, look, I have 500,000 downloads, I have X, y and Z. I have this amount in my bank account. I can tell myself to try to quell that part of me that has this voice. But the question is, why is this voice here? And most people would say this is the human condition.
Speaker 3:We always have this negative self-talk, we're going to have inner critics and so most personal development is saying let's work with that and try to overcome that. I'm interested in. Why is it there? Well, we had experiences growing up or earlier parts of our lives and we're trying to get our needs met and we're trying to make meaning about the situations and then we wire in these beliefs. Just, let's just take a a mundane example, if you have, if you um got bit by a dog when you're 10 years old and it was scary. Ah, there's a dog biting me and you're going to have this fight or flight response. You're going to have fear response and, especially if you don't have someone like really helping you emotionally process that event, your subconscious is trying to make sure you stay safe. It's possible you could create a belief that gets wired in, like neurons that wire together, fire together right or fire together, wire together. You could create a belief dogs are dangerous and this could be the story that gets kind of locked in and it's tied up with the emotional charge. And then keep going about your life and consciously you know, okay, there's plenty of dogs in the world. Most of them aren't going to be dangerous. Actually, I love this other dog, I love this dog Consciously. Every time you see a dog, you might consciously know it's safe to pet that dog. Every time you see a dog, you might consciously know that it's safe to pet that dog. But what's going on? If you haven't processed this emotional charge? It's tied up with this story dogs are dangerous.
Speaker 3:Is that you have a subconscious part of you, underneath the hood that's pinging you with some anxiety and it's going to create that fear response that, even if at a low level, even if you can override it, or then you're going to have a thought in your head you're going to say, oh no, let's stay away from that. I'm not sure. So that's kind of an example of we have these filters, we have these lenses through which we're viewing our reality based on these, the meaning that we made. You're making meaning all the time as humans, especially when we're younger and we don't have as much like meta awareness about that ability to make a meeting, and so we just like make meaning, especially if it's a tough situation we go through, but it could also be a relatively mild situation.
Speaker 3:We're always just trying to try to figure out how the world works.
Speaker 3:We're trying to get clarity, we're trying to get understanding and we're also trying to stay safe and get love.
Speaker 3:So these fundamental needs are at play. We're making meaning and then this belief can just be in the subconscious mind and you could do all the affirmations in the world, but until you actually get to the root and help that part of you that believes dogs are dangerous, actually let go of that belief, then it'll keep coming back. It's like if you have a meadow of dandelions and you can mow that meadow and the dandelions will go away. That's kind of like doing meditation and doing affirmations you feel better, it alleviates it, right. But unless you actually pluck at the root level, the actual root of the dandelion, then a couple of weeks later then it's going to come back. It's the same with our self-doubt, our self-talk. We might do a cold plunge or a float tank or a run or a meditation or a therapy session or read a book, and these things can be helpful. The question is are we actually getting to the root, to pull out and help that subconscious part of ourselves release the story that is filtering our experience and then triggering negative thoughts, triggering negative emotions?
Speaker 2:So when it comes to affirmations, meditation, what you're trying to say is it's fine and dandy until maybe, literally and figuratively, like you, hit turbulence. Let's say, I have this fear of flying, but I've done the meditation, I do my incantations and, finally, I do my affirmations Every day, every way. I'm getting stronger and stronger. All I need is within me now all these things.
Speaker 2:You get on the plane, everything's going great. You hit it in their pocket and it's like all hell breaks loose inside, because then you realize you were just lying to yourself, because you're like, well, you know, because, yeah, it sounds good. You know you feel like you're two, three inches taller, because you're up, you're erect, you're saying all these things, you're done with the meditation, and then that fear hits you. You know you weren't expecting, maybe you're expecting mild turbulence, and then you're flying through the mountains, you're flying through Colorado, you're flying through somewhere in the winter and there's a major air pocket and the hero that goes to it goes back to norm Because you weren't expecting. It's like that Mike Tyson saying then right, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, once it actually gets real, what's your involuntary reaction? Right? So, if you have, you can talk yourself up in any situation. Maybe it's flying, maybe it's giving a talk, whatever the case may be, maybe it's getting a sales call right, you can talk yourself up if you're feeling nervousness or anxiety. But then what's the involuntary response? So you could have a whole what I call belief clusters. You could have clusters of limiting beliefs in the subconscious that are going to be involuntarily coming up.
Speaker 3:So in the example of well, let's take the flying in the airplane, if you are actually at the deep subconscious level, you have a core wound. You have a deep wounded part of you that simply believes I'm not safe. That is going to be a core filter. Now, you're not going to necessarily be able to recognize that and analyze that in the moment, but you could be walking around with this thing your whole life. In every situation you might believe I'm not safe.
Speaker 3:And I encourage people to just check in with that when they, if you, actually say a belief to yourself. This is how you know if something is real and it's contributing to your, to your negative experience. You say belief I'm not safe, I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough. Does that feel heavy in your body, you know? And if it does, that's a sign that's well, that indicator that that deep down there's that party that's holding on to that story and that's getting activated. But you could have a whole cluster of beliefs about self-worth. You could have beliefs about trusting people, right, if you have a belief I can't trust other people, well, that's gonna be filtering your reality when you're trusting the pilot to fly the airplane, right, or maybe you struggle in a sales call to really be, you know, to be authentic. Maybe you you might have an urge to like, talk up the deal to make it sound better than it is, or something, cause you have this fear that no one cares about me, cares about me.
Speaker 3:So you got to like change it up and try to bend what you're, who you are, what you're selling, or or you or you have that belief. I can't trust other people. I can't trust them to that they're going to want to invest in what I'm doing. There's all sorts of directions we can take this right. So I work with people on on their self-worth blocks of their feeling, feeling just relationship insecurities. You're feeling doubts about your ability to create and scale your business. You're feeling fears of failure. Right, you're having that voice. That's like, like you said, who are you? I mean, I've had that. Who are you man? Who are you? Then the question is, we, can we listen to that voice and like hey, what's going on? Man, who are you?
Speaker 3:you know, like, oh, like, what's like, where did you come from? Man? Oh, like, what do you? What do you, what do you believe about the world? Man, like what? Tell me more when you say that, right, and that might be a total pattern. Interrupt, for that inner critic, by the way, to get curious about and give it some love. Right, let's face the darkness, let's face the shadow and be like, oh, what's going on in there, right, and then we can get curious and we can start getting kind of investigating what the actual stories that are at the root level, kind of just percolating in the consciousness. What are those stories? And then we can actually employ this method that can help the part, let go of the belief.
Speaker 3:And I'll just I'll say one more thing before I turn it back to you is that the idea here is to actually 100% unlearn the belief, and that might sound like too good to be true or that sounds sensational, which I understand that, but the best analogy for that is the santa claus effect. So most of us grow up and we we have a real, strong story in our minds about that. Santa Claus is real and there's all sorts of people telling us he's real, and we're seeing these shows on TV and we're seeing them at the mall and we hear the songs, and then one day we just kind of realized wait, I never actually saw Santa Claus, really. And then you get some new perspective on things and you realize that you created that story in your head. You never had proof for that and then, boom, the belief is gone.
Speaker 3:No one wakes up the next day and then believes in Santa again. They don't come back the next Christmas and they're like re-evaluating whether they believe in Santa again. They don't come back the next Christmas and they're like reevaluating whether they believe in Santa. It's like, as soon as you have that moment, it's over. So we can do that with any core belief. This is the technology we have access to and I'm really grateful to be able to share this with people, because I want to see the world come alive. I want people to be free of all this childhood conditioning. You know, and we can do that with any belief, whether it's I'm not good enough, whether it's making money is hard, whether it's sales is dishonest. You know, these, these things that we kind of absorb through our experiences, we make meaning, create concepts, I mean mean hold on to them, but when we actually just go back we realize that we created them, we can let them go, then they disappear no, joel.
Speaker 2:I have to ask why is it, though, the story that we believe, the story that we hold on to, has more power over fact, more power than over logic, because, deep down inside, we are logical people and we know whatever bullshit story that we believe, that we hold on, we create, is our identity. We hold onto that, like, if it's like, the 10 commandments that God gave to Moses, but yet the logic, the stories, will always outweigh the logic and the actual truth.
Speaker 3:Totally. Yes, this is where we get curious about that right brain side, that emotional side, of this, and I'm thinking about a story when I was a kid. So this is actually a relatively mild trauma. So like, let's just define trauma first being an event where you are overwhelmed and you're not able to process what's happening and so your emotions take you over, etc. And that gets stored in the body. It's stored in mind and body, and so we think of trauma usually as severe, but I define it in the most wide, wide definition possible. And so we can have super, what would seems like almost, you know, not really that big of a deal type events, just mild events. But these, these experiences, just mild adversities, can even just get stored in. So when the emotional component takes over, that's when it doesn't matter how many times we consciously analyze it, it's still in the consciousness, in the subconscious.
Speaker 3:So I remember I was a kid, like eight years old. I went to sleep away camp for the first time and first time away from my parents for a full week. So that was, you know, leaving my comfort zone, and I was already felt pretty kind of insecure overall as a kid Not a lot of confidence there and kind of introverted, didn't really didn't really feel that comfortable with comfortable with people and meeting new kids at the camp and all that stuff Right. But the story is we had an evening where everyone was going to make hot dogs. So all the kids were asked to go in the woods and in order to get a hot dog to roast hot dogs you need to find a hot dog stick. And basically they said well, you need to get a certain quality of stick that's going to be good enough to be sharpened. The camp council is going to sharpen the stick to get it ready. But make sure you go into the woods and get like a stick that's. That's pretty dry or. I forget all the qualifications, but the way I experienced it, what they were saying, there's very specific like qualifications that in order to get a good stick, that the camp council can sharpen it for you and then you can get a hot dog. That's the stipulation.
Speaker 3:I remember feeling a little frantic, like all the kids, like run out into the woods and I didn't really know exactly what I was looking for. Fast forward, I ended up choosing a stick. I'm one of the last kids left. It seems like everyone else already found their stick right away, but I was like doubting myself about it. Anyway, I get a stick that I thought was decent, Bring it back to the camp counselor. Almost everyone else has already eaten their hot dogs and I'm like I had this one. And then the camp counselor's got his pocket knife and he's like no, it's not going to work. I don't even know why. I was just like it's not going to work and he's like you got to go back. And he's like if you don't get a stick, you don't get a hot dog, but you can have peanut butter and jelly sandwich if you want.
Speaker 3:So in that moment I just felt devastated. I was just four lower and I was just disappointed, sad. This big pile of recipe of feelings and I was just saying like how could this be happening? What do I need to do? Why is this happening? Why is it so hard? All those types of voices.
Speaker 3:And then I created this thought, I created this belief. I'm not good enough. That voice, that belief, was trying to help me out. It was trying to give me some clarity about why in the world this was happening, to help me cope with these feelings, and I could just put a band-aid on it. Oh, okay, I have some explanation now.
Speaker 3:What happened is that story got wired in with that big emotional wave and it just stayed there until three years ago when I took this method and I cleared it up. We cleared it up and I didn't consciously remember saying that phrase in my mind. I'm not good enough during the memory, but what I found with this work is when we go back into memories through finding the belief and finding this memory where it came from, the consciousness just tells us immediately oh, this is where it came from. So it was through this tool to unlearn beliefs that I found this story again and I found that belief. I know it's kind of like a soft science, but that's just an example of where these stories can come from and why logic is not going to do it, why we can't just keep telling ourselves these mindset reframes and trying to bring in new information over and over. That's why people are frustrated. This is why it's like some 80% plus of entrepreneurs are anxious or lonely in these types of things. This is not just the nature of entrepreneurship. This is an inside-out game. Yeah, entrepreneurship maybe it's more of an independent thing. You don't have as much immediate social support. Maybe that's why there's loneliness, but maybe it's like we actually have beliefs about ourselves in the deep subconscious mind that are getting stimulated by our circumstances. It's not the circumstances we need to change, it's what's going on in the inside right.
Speaker 3:Anyone seen the great Disney movies Inside Out, inside Out 2? Inside Out 2 is even better in my opinion. It's really actually showcasing how these beliefs get created. It's really actually showcasing how these beliefs get created and inside out, in. Inside out to the main character, riley. She's really trying to make the hockey team and she's trying so hard. It's like her life depends on it and then she just feels so overwhelmed and she doesn't think she's going to do it and she just creates this story. I'm not good enough. It's like a really heartfelt moment in the movie. I could just when I was watching, I could just feel. I felt like I could feel people around me like really resonating with that, because it's it's the most common belief in the world, with my experience working with people is I'm not good enough and I just want people to be free of this, and we now have the technology to do that now joel with the the hot dog story that happened at such an early age.
Speaker 2:Did you ever feel like you know, just anxious anxiety hitting any time there was a you know hot dogs involved?
Speaker 3:actually no, I've never had anxiety about hot dogs oh, because believe it or not?
Speaker 2:you, you never know, actually maybe I do well, well, do you love eating hot dogs?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had hot dogs today actually.
Speaker 2:Well then yeah but you've been okay previous. I'm talking about three years, let's say four years ago, before you found this method. Were you a connoisseur of hot dogs? I?
Speaker 3:don't even know if I would say connoisseur. I know that as a kid I that was one of the few foods that I really liked, actually, which is one of the reasons I probably had an extra devastation about it, cause I was a really picky eater, which is another whole like. Well, it's every kid dude, it's not like.
Speaker 2:it's not like you know, you're at an early age, your parents were going. So do you want? You know? Do you want sushi or do you want some caviar? No man, true, true. Every kid eats the nuggets and the plain hot dog.
Speaker 3:And the plain. It's funny. I don't think I have any negative associations with hot dogs specifically, but it is interesting to think about how we can look back and be like oh, to me, finding I'm not good enough in that memory was kind of surprising. Oh, that's where that thing came from. Now I have other beliefs that came from much more severe trauma.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, our minds are trying to make sense, especially as children. We're trying to make sense of our environments and when it comes to these self-worth beliefs in particular, so often we're trying to put it on ourselves. Right, we might have our parents yelling at us about getting an F on their report card, but we don't have the capacity. Maybe we have the capacity, but we don't. It's not even safe for us to try to make to entertain the possibility that mom and dad are have their own psychological issues. Right, we we need to stay attached to our caregivers growing up and we need to adapt to that environment, because if we don't have our caregivers, then we'll literally die. So we need to have attachment over authenticity.
Speaker 3:So we're going to try to protect ourselves by creating these stories, which is why I really invite people to be compassionate towards themselves when they recognize these voices and these anxieties and we even find the beliefs. And it can be easy. I know I've experienced like, oh, how come I can't believe I have this belief. You know, I can't believe I'm doing this. It's like, wait, wait, this. This belief is because we're trying to get our needs met as a child. So you know your mom, mom or dad's yelling at you because you got an F on the report card. It's totally understandable to create a belief as you're feeling this fear or you're feeling this worry. You just boom, create a story.
Speaker 3:Failure isn't safe, or the way to get love is to get approval, right. We create these shortcuts to make sure that we don't mess up again, that we don't experience that again, right, that we don't put ourselves at risk, and so it serves us in the short term. And then the question is can we go back now that we're actually adults and independent and autonomous and we are safe to be ourselves? We know that consciously, but we just need to go back and we need to clean up. This garden has all these overgrowing weeds, right? So let's go back and pull those up. And then, if we want to add affirmations from there and add some plants and new seeds. Great, I'm actually. I still I do affirmations. I think affirmations are nice. The reason people struggle with affirmations is because they're trying to add air freshener over the dog doo-doo. Right, let's actually clean the dog doo-doo, and then air freshener can be nice, you know.
Speaker 2:Now, overall, joel, I'm not good enough. Isn't isn't that one of those primary, deep-rooted, deep in our souls? So many people have it. That's why, oh, I can't stand sales, I'm not good at sales, this fear. Okay, you pitch someone, you get rejected. They say no because I'm not good enough. Or you know, I really want to ask out that chick, yeah, but what if she says no? Or I had the the balls to finally ask her out and she says no, it's not because of timing, it's not because she might be seeing someone, it's not because of circumstances. It can be a million reasons, zero to do with you. She could be coming out of a relationship and she could just be busy that day or that weekend, but the knee jerk thing is always I'm not good enough, right.
Speaker 3:It could be. It could be I'm not good enough. It could be women don't like me. It could be a whole cluster, right? So I've I mean I've I've cleared probably a thousand plus beliefs. And for my own self the past three years, there's the different beliefs, like I've said, about ourself. That could be beliefs about women. You know, I didn't have the healthiest mom myself growing up. Well, that's gonna. It's understandable that my little joel, little child self was creating all these beliefs about women, right? So I had beliefs like women are scary oh, some are.
Speaker 3:If I'm going to talk to a woman as an adult, that thought isn't necessarily actually happening in that moment. What's happening that you notice is resistance. I think people can identify with that. I think people can identify with that.
Speaker 3:It's like have you experienced resistance in any situation? Talking to a person of the opposite sex and having a sales call, talking, giving a speech, going on a podcast? Any experience? Do you feel resistance? Starting a business, writing a blog post? Um, putting some, putting yourself out there, looking at your bank account, what, like what? What resistance is? It is coming up and I mean man, before this work, I did a lot of personal development and I've gone deep for a long time, since I was about 19, I started getting curious about my childhood and trying to process this stuff and but it wasn't until I really found the belief level of things that I really started getting the major results.
Speaker 3:Before that I was using I was using the willpower and the audacity to push through the resistance Right. So I, you know, I had my. One of my dreams in my 20s was in my late 20s was to work for this entrepreneur, isaac Morehouse, and I failed like three times, but I was so driven. That was my purpose. I had that definiteness of purpose. As Napoleon Hill says, I was so focused. I was relentlessly pursuing this opportunity to work with him Dream job right and I failed three times but that didn't stop me because I was so relentlessly focused on it. So this is where the conscious mindset stuff can be powerful. You can overcome the pain, you can overcome the resistance and so forth, and that's what I did and I finally busted through.
Speaker 3:I realized what I needed to do was create my own job for his company and pitch myself to work for free and created all these projects and I sent him this video and I was like terrified because I was putting myself out there, I was terrified on the inside or deep down, although I was also excited, right, because it was my greatest joy. But then there was this the resistance was so strong at the same time and if anyone's read, you know Steven Pressfield's work, the War of Art right, he talks about that there's actually more resistance you have the more love you have for your creative project. So what I do, I pushed through the resistance. So I said to myself I got to force this, I just got to do it. And you know what it worked? It worked. I got the opportunity, changed the trajectory of my career.
Speaker 3:The question is, is it necessary to have this resistance? And I, I, I question this idea that resistance is just part of life. And I say what is resistance? Oh, this is a collection of beliefs in the subconscious mind. And let's find those beliefs. And the more beliefs that we clear, the more that resistance just shaves down and dissipates and dissolves. And now you know, I go do something to expand my comfort zone, I go put myself out there, I go create something, I go record a podcast, et cetera. It's not that I'm a robot, I don't have feelings anymore. It's just that it's not that I'm a robot. I don't have feelings anymore. It's just. It's just that it's it's like drastically reduced. It's like the noise in my head is 80 gone compared to four years ago. It's just gone, and I could I could share some more stories, but that's, yeah, that's my take on uh, on resistance, resistance.
Speaker 2:Now was there like just that defining moment, like you hit rock bottom or you had the aha moment three, four years ago, that you realized, yes, I've done all this work, I've gone to all these personal development seminars, but it's not really moving the needle development seminars, but it's not really moving the needle. Was there something that gave you complete clarity that you realized you had to create this and you had to create this to your first client was yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, just to clarify, I'm iterating on this method. So there's been people like Morty Lefkoe and Aaron Feil who have forged the path with this method and I got to work with Aaron and there's a few other people, a couple of my friends, who are building out businesses similar to this, who are doing similar type of methods. There wasn't a rock bottom for me. I've always just been super curious and super like a seeker of, of growth and just so interested in authenticity and wholeness and just self-actualization and it's just sort of who I am. It just compelled to express my true self and and to be in line with my purpose and to begin to create and to be fully alive like this is so compelling to me and it makes me come alive, to support other people in coming alive, like I want to create this world of of, of wholeness and excitement and aliveness and people in their, their zone of authenticity and and, um, their purpose and their power and all the good things, creativity, um. But yeah, so a couple of my friends here in Austin, we came across Aaron and then we started learning this and we uh, I, I was a client with her and then I'm just super self-driven as a learner and I just started. I kept going, I kept going and learning how to do this on myself and I just gone to town in all these different buckets of life to clear more and more blocks, to get to open myself up more and more. Now you'll like this, all the results you'll get.
Speaker 3:From my perspective it's all relative in terms of once you clear one belief. I'm not good enough. Just to put it in perspective, I once had a person tell me that he would pay me $50,000 just to clear that one belief. There's so much suffering that's filtering everyone's experience and every single day of their life they're just walking around with this story and this low level of anxiety and their posture is sinking. And this is enormously valuable.
Speaker 3:Just to clear one belief, then you clear a good chunk of beliefs about self-worth or money or whatever your main patterns are, and then those create enormous breakthroughs. But then you can kind of keep going if you find new layers in your psyche that are a little bit more, a little like residual. It's kind of like, um, if you might have big boulders. Think about like this you have big boulders in your psyche of these main beliefs that are holding you back the most. Once you pick those things up and you get rid of those, it might be some, some more petals um, excuse me, pebbles that are the little residual beliefs that you can keep on getting curious about, to keep on clearing and keep on opening yourself up. That's kind of like nuance in advance. But I mean, yeah, to answer your question, I'm just being super, super curious about just becoming the most real version of myself and not being held back by my experiences growing up and trying to empower myself.
Speaker 2:Not being held back by my experiences growing up and trying to empower myself. Now do you mainly see entrepreneurs?
Speaker 3:or do you help out people outside, business owners, sales leaders, leaders in general? Yeah, I mean, I work with entrepreneurs. I love entrepreneurs because I'm interested in innovators, I'm interested in disruptors, interested in people who want to challenge the status quo, and I think entrepreneurs are almost like an unsung, unsung heroes in the world because they are the movers and shakers and they're making. They're making shifts and, like I said, they often well oftentimes entrepreneurs aren't always celebrated and obviously the big ones are maybe, but oftentimes, you know, business people might be not as praised as like I don't know teachers, for example. I can go on a whole tangent about that. But yeah, I mean, I love entrepreneurs. I work with salespeople.
Speaker 3:I really want to see this tool spread across the world, which is one reason I'm interested in sharing how to do this for yourself. And I work with people because it's really helpful to, when you first start, to have someone supporting you, especially if you haven't really done a lot of self-work, self-facilitation, on this deep subconscious level. But it's actually a pretty, it's a relatively simple process to run this method, and so I'm starting. I created a series on my podcast called Parts, needs and Meaning, explaining about how this works. I created a series called how to Do Self-Therapy, giving people tools on how to facilitate this. So I mean my vision is for for people to. It's like people go to the chiropractor, right, we're like they get their, they get their haircut, they get they get their oil changed, like they would get these maintenance things done, um, to take care of things. But are you taking care of your mind, right? Do you have a tool in your toolkit that can really pluck out those old beliefs that are not serving you anymore?
Speaker 2:Now is it hard to. We're coming up on the holidays and this is the time for anxiety, especially when it comes to money. That probably doesn't Entrepreneurs, sales leaders, mom, dad probably a lot of it has to do with. Am I good enough? Am I good enough to provide for my family, to give them an epic Christmas, an epic Hanukkah, an epic festival? Whatever a person celebrates, is it difficult to remove that? No, the anxiety.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I worked with this entrepreneur, this sales coach, we'll call him Andrew. We met in an online business community and we decided to work together and day one he self-rates his money anxiety as 10 out of 10 in severity and by the end of the 12 weeks, he self rated it as zero out of 10. And I say 12 weeks, it was really 12 hours Cause all that we did was we cleared beliefs one hour a week for 12 weeks. He just showed up and we subtracted beliefs. We unlearned the beliefs. We ran this method. We cleared out beliefs.
Speaker 3:We find the beliefs that's the most important part Find the actual beliefs that are contributing to that pattern. And he was. He was looking, you know, at the beginning he was having this anxiety about money, even though he consciously knew I am making good money, things are okay, consciously. But he looks at his bank account and he's like having these racing thoughts like I don't have enough money, right. Or he's feeling the fear about, he's thinking he's anxious about the future and this, this fear and this need for security is not getting met Right. But we find these core beliefs, like one of the biggest ones about money is the way to be safe and secure is to have money Right. Like people listening to you like, is that resonate? We feel that the way to be safe and secure is to have money. Is that, is that a story that's in the consciousness. If you feel a heaviness and you feel like, oh, that means it's there. So when we pull that weed out, then it's immediate freedom from that story and you're no longer walking around with that story filtering your reality, right, longer walking around with that story filtering your reality, right.
Speaker 3:So, with Andrew, we just pulled out a collection of beliefs about money, also about self-worth Right and writing for his family. I think we also covered that. And yeah, like I said, like by the end he was just like, yeah, it's, it's gone. I can't really find anything to report to you. You know, um, and it sounds wild and people, people listening to that might be like, well, wait, isn't it going to come back? Or like I don't know if that's really, uh, permanent or something, or what's the catch, or and that's when I invite people to well, hey, I empathize with that because that's what I thought the first time I thought about this.
Speaker 3:I found out about this, um, but oftentimes we have beliefs at the meta level about change itself. So we might have beliefs in our subconscious like I can't do it. Nothing I do works. Change is not possible for me. Change can't be fast. Change has to be hard. It's too good to be true.
Speaker 3:These are stories that we could just be taken on, these beliefs, just from watching TV shows as a kid. We're absorbing messages left and right from our parents, teachers, our peers, the media. We're absorbing those. What's really just happening is that we're taking in sense data. We're seeing things, objects and people. We're feeling sensations in our body. Then we create meaning, right? Anyway, these change blocks. Change can't be fast. That could be filtering your reality right now. Listen to this podcast and the voice in your head could become aware of that voice. Is it saying, oh, this isn't possible? Now there's something missing. Here again, I have empathy for that. Um, and I'm not saying this is like a magic pill, but yeah, like santa claus isn't real anymore. Once we clear a belief and the patterns can shave down. They just go away and they don't come back, cause it's.
Speaker 2:It's at the root level now, when it comes to your coaching, do you do one-on-one, or is it group sessions or a mixture of both?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'm doing one-on-one and I have aspirations as I build this thing, scale this thing, for it to be just becoming more and more ubiquitous. I think the more people learn how to do this for themselves. Because what I do with clients is I work with them one-on-one and I facilitate and I clear the belief with them. Basically, I clear it for them. You could say I'm guiding them through the process and they kind of sit back and relax. But I also like to share the tools and share how the process works. And share here is how you can do this for yourself, so that you can start getting curious and finding your own beliefs. Right, that you can start getting curious and finding your own beliefs right and asking yourself for example, you're walking around and you felt anxious as you were talking to the stranger at the grocery store, for whatever reason. You noticing anxiousness and you just ask yourself. You can start asking yourself what would I have to believe for this anxiety to be here? Just start getting curious, start testing out some beliefs. Right, when I say testing, you test out a sentence like I'm not good enough or people hate me or whatever. There's so many different combinations and different kind of variations. But if you test them out and you just feel into it, does that feel strong? And how strong enough? Does that feel? Like an eight out of ten severity? That, right, okay. That means there's a belief there.
Speaker 3:So I try to. I'm trying to equip people to be able to do this on their own. But for me, I started this by having that person with me at the start and then started learning on my own. But I believe that the more and more people start learning this, then it becomes just more common and it becomes kind of like. My vision is if it's become this kind of this grass, grassroots momentum and people start getting in the driver's seat with their own personal power and their ability to to self educate and not rely on institutions to educate them and rely on somebody else or authority figures. And I need to find my guru and I need you know like. You are your own teacher, you're empowered, you're. You have so much possibility. Amen, right. So I want to see. I want to see like, like brochures in coffee shops and it's just like here's how to, here's how to clear. I'm not good enough in 10 minutes, right?
Speaker 3:So people just start normalizing their power because this is, this technology is now here and, like I said, there's a few other people doing this stuff, but I want this to be spreading across the globe, because we got a lot of people, you know, struggling with all sorts of issues internally, all sorts of societal issues. We got all sorts of of blocks to human flourishing and I believe all of those blocks come from the root, which is what our experience is growing up, experiences with our parents, our teachers and, of course, well, what happened with with those with the parents and those parents and teachers when they were kids, they had their own stuff. Right. Let's just break these cycles and let's start freeing ourselves and removing this head trash from our minds and removing this conditioning um, and we can. We can start loving ourselves more and actually just being free. So that's what I'm fired up about not only that, but, joel, you're.
Speaker 2:You're like putting shrinks therapists out of business, man, with your technique. Think about it, you're. You want to erase belief by empowering people, giving people back their power and giving them the tools to create the life they want, instead of reliving the trauma over and over for every campaign hour 45 minutes to 50 minutes per session for years discussing the same thing and reliving the trauma over and over because you know, you, you do need them to come back. You know that it's a, it's a subscription model. You can't, you can't care, but yet here you are doing and I love that. So, man, I love everything. Now the Joel Bynes show. This is the time to promote. How do we find it? Where do we find you? To hire you, man? Because you know enough being a mediocre sales guy, enough of being like a entrepreneur living month to month or, you know, hoping for a better time instead of creating that well, thanks, man.
Speaker 3:I mean just a quick note on the therapist thing. I agree that there's a lot of people spinning their wheels showing up to talk therapy. That's out of the utmost respect for a lot of therapists who are very well-meaning, very well even versed and knowledgeable. But if we're just talking about our problems, how much are we solving Right? And I think I think I mean I've, I've done, I've done therapy about two years worth of therapy. I mean a huge fan of of internal family systems therapy. I think that's the best therapy in the world right now. But what I'm doing is kind of a step, a step up from that, I believe. But anyway, I just want to like give a lot of love for the therapists out there who are seeking to support people, but I also want to recognize the people who are going to therapy and who are spinning their wheels, and I do believe that we can be much more efficient and effective with this work. And, yeah, my model is just come work with me for 12 weeks and then we'll set you free and be in an empowered way.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, the Joel Bynes show is my podcast if you're interested in hearing more from me. But hey, man, what I want to do for your audience. I really want to give gifts to the world and I want to give gifts to your audience. I know that people really look up to you and your show. I listened to a couple of your episodes. People are, I'm guessing, really trust you and you're a really authentic man. I just want to acknowledge that and I want to give some value to everyone listening today, in gratitude for your time and for listening to the end of this podcast.
Speaker 3:So I want to give something away called the self-doubt playbook, and this is what I usually give to my paying clients, but, again, I want to give this to everyone today listening. And so the self-doubt playbook is for that innovative entrepreneur who's sick and tired of battling those negative voices, these voices that are trying to dictate what you do and what you don't do, the ones that are telling you you're not worthy, you can't do it, you're not good enough. The ones that are telling you you're not worthy, you can't do it, you're not good enough, right, and that they stop you from taking action or they make you rely on that willpower and discipline, right. So what we can do with the self-doubt playbook is to end these patterns, end the imposter syndrome, the anxiety, all the things we've talked about whatever patterns are coming your way. So there's two components to this playbook.
Speaker 3:Number one is my limiting belief guide. So this is the step-by-step guide on how to clear and unlearn any limiting belief. I just want to give you the technology. This is the foundational tool that I use all the time with myself. Still, this is how you can remove this head trash that's getting in the way. This is the fundamental tool. And then number two is my limiting belief cluster course.
Speaker 3:So, again, the belief cluster is the sets of limiting beliefs that are specifically causing your patterns. So there's a whole skill that you can develop to figure out what beliefs you actually have that are causing your particular negative self-talk and emotions. So when you find beliefs and then you clear those beliefs, you can actually be free. So you don't need to rely on the meditation and all these other things. You can actually just get to the root of the matter. So if you want the self-doubt playbook, you're curious about this. You want to make a shift right now. Just send me a message with the word playbook on LinkedIn and I'll personally send you this resource. So just search for Joel Bein. That's B-E-I-N and I should be one of the first results. Joel Bein, founder at Human Liberation, and I would be glad to send you that resource. Just send me the word playbook on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2:Awesome man. Thank you for that man. You know you are definitely walking the walk, talking the talk. You are completely living in service. Now, joel, for all those that are checked out everybody has anxiety. Everybody has those voices. Everybody has the darkness inside, has those voices. Everybody has that, that the darkness inside them that you know that paralyzes us. What words of wisdom? Just the final question Do you have that person that has just given up that they can't, they feel that they can't, overcome their, their past, they can't overcome their trauma? They're just living their life, saying it is what it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. What I would say is that's not you. That self-doubt, that depression, that darkness, et cetera, that's not you. That's just unhealed parts of you. So you are whole, you are powerful, creative, right. So all these statements are real. I really do believe that your true self is curious, is creative, is empowered, is uninhibited. There's so much potential. As Thomas Edison said, if we did everything we were capable of doing, we would literally astound ourselves. What's going on, though, is you're caught up in these wounds that are kind of taking the steering wheel of your consciousness, and so what I invite people to do is just to be aware and see if you can become observant. That's where meditation can be valuable, just becoming a witness of your pain, and, by all means, give yourself self-acceptance for what's going on. But acceptance doesn't mean we need to resign.
Speaker 3:We can love what is, we can accept what's going on in this moment. We can also recognize who we can become, which is just returning to your own wholeness, right? I don't think we need to learn actually to be ourselves. We just need to get rid of the things that are in the way. Right, the statue of David? Right, we just got to chisel away at these things that are in the way of our true self shining through. So there's so much power for you, so much potential, so much possibility. Just as Arthur Ashe said, just start where you are use what you have do what you can.
Speaker 2:You know and you have. You have so much possibility. Just take that first step. The possibilities are endless. Joel, joel Bynes, move from self-doubt to inspired action. Brother, thank you for the hour, thank you for the time, thank you for your words of wisdom and thank you for providing tools to my audience. Love you, brother, and let's create massive, positive change. Love it, man.
Speaker 1:Appreciate it, the hardest prison to escape is our own mind. I was trapped inside that prison, oh, for a long time. To make it happen, you gotta take action. Just imagine what if it did work.