What If It Did Work?
What If It Did Work?
Parkinson's Can't Stop This Mountain Climber: Travis Robinson's Remarkable Journey
What happens when life throws you not just one devastating curveball, but several? Travis Robinson's answer might surprise you.
At just 35, Travis received a diagnosis that would terrify most people: Parkinson's disease. Yet his immediate response wasn't "Why me?" but rather "How can I take this to my advantage?" Now 46, Travis continues to climb mountains, create stunning theatrical photography, and embrace each day with humor and purpose—even after losing his home and all his photography equipment in the devastating California wildfires of January 2023.
Travis takes us on a journey through his daily reality, where some days he can scale impressive peaks but can't carry a bowl of cereal without spilling it. He shares how he coordinates his adventures around his "high-gravity days" when Parkinson's makes getting out of bed nearly impossible. With remarkable candor, he discusses adapting his climbing techniques, rebuilding his award-winning photography career from scratch after the fires, and planning his upcoming photo safari to Iceland.
What makes Travis's story so powerful isn't just what he's overcome, but how he's reframed his challenges. "You are not dead yet," he reminds us, "and it is incumbent upon you not to waste the opportunity of life." His philosophy cuts through the noise of everyday complaints and excuses, offering a perspective that's both refreshing and deeply challenging.
Whether you're facing your own health battles, recovering from loss, or simply feeling stuck in life's routines, Travis's approach to adversity provides a masterclass in resilience. His simple motto—"Do cool shit"—serves as both his business card and life philosophy, reminding us all that our limitations only define us if we let them.
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I never told no one that my whole life I've been holding back. Every time I load my gun up so I can shoot for the star, I hear a voice like who do you think you are all right.
Speaker 2:Everybody. Another day, another dollar. One of my favorite episodes of my favorite podcast what if it did work? Season four took this long to get an amazing guest like this the definition of what if it did work Travis Robinson.
Speaker 2:At first glance, travis's life might seem defined by obstacles. Diagnosed with Parkinson's, he's faced relentless challenges, some expected, like mobility struggles, and others completely unforeseen, like losing his home and all of his photography gear in the fire. But rather than letting these hardships define him, travis has built a life that proves limitations are always meant to be challenged. He's an adventurer, a mountaineer, a photographer and a storyteller who refuses to let Parkinson's dictate the quality of his life. Whatever navigating rugged whether navigating rugged landscapes, rebuilding his passions from the ground up or finding joy in everyday moments, travis embodies resilience. Through his journeys, learn how to live fully, adapt with humor you got to live with humor and embrace the unpredictability of life. Lessons that inspire others to face their battles. Travis is here to share his story, his strategies for overcoming adversity and why he believes that, no matter what, life is still worth climbing.
Speaker 3:Thank you for being on the show oh, thank you for having me, omar, it is an honor.
Speaker 2:For somebody that overcame Parkinson's, because you're overcoming it literally every single day. Reading that bio, you do more than people that are able-bodied, 20 years old, 25, should be in the prime of their life and instead they're living like they're dying, they're waiting, they're dead. They just don't even know it.
Speaker 3:Man, you're living life to the fullest Right, and that is exactly what I did not want to do is sit around and wait to die.
Speaker 2:How old were you when you were diagnosed with Parkinson's? 35. Holy smokes. And how old are you now, man? Because you look like 37 to me. To be honest, 46, hey, man, that's completely. That's. That's just amazing. So mean, I'm sure there was some. I know you're not a victim, but I'm sure when you first got that diagnosis, man, you just felt like why me, why did this happen to me, right?
Speaker 3:I did not spend a whole lot of time wondering why. It was more like okay, this is real and it is happening, so how can I take it to my advantage?
Speaker 2:Wow, so not even like days, weeks, months, because I mean a lot of people. I mean I was out six weeks right now with, like I couldn't do a podcast. All these were just I'm an overachiever, so I tape them in advance. I could barely talk because I had an upper respiratory infection and you know, towards the like first, second week, fine, and then like third, fourth, fifth week, I started feeling sorry for myself. I'm like, how about if I can't do another video? How can? How about if I can only write a book? What is this happening? Am I, am I dying at 50, before my 52? So it's all that. So, man, congratulations for for not not even thinking like that. Now, is there a history in your family? Because my girlfriend, amy, her father, has Parkinson's, but it's hereditary.
Speaker 3:Now, does your father uncle anything like that, or just you? No, it is idiomatic in my case. They're psychopathic in my case, which means they don't have a fucking clue as to what caused it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you're not a boxer, right? So you have no history. You're not a boxer, so you, you have no history, you're, you're not a boxer, you, you, you. You don't have cte, you weren't playing football professionally for 20 years and having like 50 concussions.
Speaker 2:So this was just random right now. Did what now? Was this just during a because, at your age it's not like you're going, you know for a diagnosis for parkinson's. Was this just during a because, at your age it's not like you're going, you know, for a diagnosis for Parkinson's. Was it just like during a checkup? Or were you just feeling off? Or was there something that just made you want to go to the doctor and that's how they discovered it?
Speaker 3:I had trouble with my grip strings in my hand which as a rock climber was very noticeable and disable, and then I had trouble dragging my right foot and that was noticeable when I went climbing. Process of elimination.
Speaker 2:So how long did it take to start for the Parkinson's? Was it like slowly at first you know how they said like Michael J Fox and Back to the Future? He had signs and then it took a few more years? Or did it just like happen, like all of a sudden you started losing motor skills, your vocal cords and everything else?
Speaker 3:Pardon me.
Speaker 2:You can take your time, brother. You know what? There's 24 hours in a day. There's no need to hurry man. I'm in no hurry, you know.
Speaker 3:I'm in no hurry. Okay, no, I was pretty quickly symptomatic. I don't know anyone with as aggressive a case of BDSM, and so I treat my Parkinson's more aggressively than anyone I know.
Speaker 2:But yet you still continued overcoming obstacles. You kept on climbing mountains. I'm sure it's a lot harder now, but you knew deep in your heart, in your head, you weren't going to give up climbing, right, right.
Speaker 3:It is More I climb.
Speaker 2:Therefore I am, I climb therefore I am you climb, so therefore I am I. I love that because, man, you know what some, we, so many people, want to play victims and want to blame you. You know someone there's always because you know. Unfortunately, though, people don't understand life isn't fair, you know Right, it just isn't. You know you were dealt these cards, but people have been dealt cards, man, we just have to play life. I mean, what do you tell? You know someone that you know their child died at six, or their wife died, you know, a month or a week after getting married. There's all sorts of circumstances that are just random, that in life it's a gut punch, or sometimes many like a Mike Tyson blow to the face. But you have to get up and you have to dust yourself off, like you, and you have to move forward.
Speaker 3:Right, I don't see any point in wasting time on why me or all this sucks. Sure, it does truly suck, but so what?
Speaker 2:So what you still climb the mountain man, you get that view, that breathtaking view, that God, that the universe that so many people will only see because of a picture, like a picture that you took or you know a photograph or a movie or you know AI now, but you get to see something and you get to breathe it in and you get to experience something that less than 1% of the people can even imagine or do.
Speaker 3:Right. That's why it is so important for me to keep on, keeping on.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, man, and then you have your sense of humor. I mean, I guess you have to because, in the grand scheme of things, you know what life is about experience. I I'd rather laugh and and just have a good joke. Then you know why be sorry, why be sad, man. You know there, there's already so much bullshit out there in this world that you know humor and just laughing at stuff you can't control, like what you're currently doing it's like you either have to laugh or cry, and I remember to laugh.
Speaker 2:Now I know you're married, so it must have been hard when she heard that diagnosis. Now was she in the doctor's office with you, or did you tell her? Or did you tell her immediately, or did you go, fuck man. I don't want to piss off my wife because I was married for 20 years. Let me tell her in a little while.
Speaker 3:No, I told her right away, because at least then I could explain what was happening to me.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you had all these symptoms. I'm sure she wasn't like thinking, man, that travis, that motherfucker, he's trying to get out of chores, man, he doesn't want to do any yard work, he's saying this hurts and that hurts, you know, I, I, I, you know, I. I'm sure she saw you, you know, and she knew you weren't like just playing it off saying, hey, man, you know, I'm sure she saw you know, and she knew you weren't like just playing it off saying, hey, you know, when she's like Travis, we, you know, can you do the laundry, it wasn't like you're like well, you know, I'm having a hard time with my balance, I'm you know she, she accepted it, Not not that she wanted to, but you know you have to give it to her.
Speaker 2:in this day of age she literally understands. You know from sickness and in health.
Speaker 3:Yes, she does, yes, she does, and she gets a gold medal for patience, for sure, man For sure.
Speaker 2:You know it's not what anybody signed up for, but she's here with you Now. Is she a climber?
Speaker 3:Yes, that is actually how we met.
Speaker 2:That's amazing man. So I live in South Florida, so for me my definition of going to mountains is either like Lake Tahoe or the Sierra Nevadas or going to Colorado. Now where do you mountain climb?
Speaker 3:Principally in the Sierras, but I am alsoiding the Rockies and in England and Scotland.
Speaker 2:Look at you, man, You're not only an expert climber, but you're like the world climber man. Pitbull says he's Mr Worldwide, but he doesn't climb mountains. Man, you do that, so you one-upped him on that one man. Definitely no Midwest for you, because there's no mountains in the Midwest.
Speaker 3:No it's too flat for me so.
Speaker 2:Travis, when did you start climbing? Because I've got this fear of heights, man. I can't even climb those tall, friggin' ladders. Usually I'd have to have my ex-wife or my daughters or someone to hold on while I hold on, like I'm Sylvester Stallone in Cliffhanger to change a light bulb or something. So at what age did you start rock climbing?
Speaker 2:Oh, I was climbing officially at age 21 now it's just something like when you were in high school and we were all sleeping through high school. You were just looking outside and you're like man, I gotta, when I'm old I'm gonna climb those, those bad boys up. Or because I I've always wondered, because there's plenty of ways to get an adrenaline in your dopamine what was it that got Travis Robinson to start rock climbing?
Speaker 3:Okay, I saw someone else do it and then I was talking with a good friend of mine and he asked when are we going to get you climbing of expensive gear? And he went to his closet, brought down his rag bag and robes and said Like this and robes and set like this.
Speaker 2:Now, travis, I gotta have to. You know there's so much like misconceptions about Parkinson's. I mean to me, besides Michael J Fox, I always thought most people of Parkinson's are like you know, 80, early 80s. They get it and you know it's just part of life. But clearly, man, you were like in your best years. You weren't even middle-aged yet. You were in your 30s when you got your diagnosis and it hit. Now does it hit everybody different?
Speaker 3:Yes, and it is more common with young folks than people realize.
Speaker 2:So there's no way I mean a person in their 20s can get diagnosed with Parkinson's.
Speaker 3:Yes, it is rare, but YOMD or young onset Parkinson's is very common.
Speaker 2:No, you know what, though? Everything that Parkinson's and it keeps on throwing you curveballs or pushing you down, but what I love the fact, travis, is that you always get right back up. It's like, okay, you got, you're doing this to me, but I can still do this. How now, did you go back up the mountain, like after your diagnosis? Or was there like, uh, let me you know? Like, uh, wait and see, let's plan this? Or was it just I'm gonna fucking take down that mountain, I'm gonna climb it and I'm gonna show people. Fuck you, parkinson's. I'm going to climb it and I'm going to show people fuck you Parkinson's.
Speaker 3:Oh, for me it is a gradual process. Talked about it on my show that every climb is different and requires more and more preparation and planning.
Speaker 2:Now everybody, so many people, I mean. The one thing a lot of people deal with is just unexpected challenges. Man, you got one like a major challenge. Sometimes we have the challenge of loss a family, a sister, a brother, father just suddenly passes away, or we're dealing with stage four cancer, stage two cancer or something debilitating like Crohn's disease, this chronic illness, an autoimmune deficiency. What words of wisdom would you have to anybody like that?
Speaker 3:which you have. To anybody like that, to anyone dealing with any sort of medical shit, I say you're not dead yet, so don't act like it.
Speaker 2:I hear you and what's crazy. I just read through your stuff and because this was very recent, I thought because California has so many fires. So when I read Eaton, you know, just like everybody else. Well, you know California, especially Southern Cal, you know it was on fire, but you lost your house. This was just I can't count because I think it's more than five months, but July.
Speaker 3:No, it was January 7th of this year.
Speaker 2:Wow man this year. Wow man. So not only were you dealing with Parkinson's, so it's not like you're like, hey, let's just jump in the car and haul ass. You had to deal with a fire that.
Speaker 3:The Parkinson's evacuation, which is challenging. At best, I had to get all of my various medication from place after burn.
Speaker 2:Now, how long did you have to evacuate, did they? Because you know it's south florida, we don't have fires, we have hurricanes but now we had about two hours so you you for sure you had to get all your meds. That's always important, despite your parkinson's medications. The i'm'm sure your expensive camera equipment was the other nine cameras. Now talk about devastation. You lost then pretty much everything.
Speaker 3:Yes, everything.
Speaker 2:You didn't lose your sense of humor, right? I gotta have to ask Because, man, I've been to Southern Cal a million times. It was always my dream to live there. I have my aunt that lives in Orange County. Man, there's friggin' traffic up the ass on any normal like 2 am, doesn't matter what time. How the hell do you evacuate Southern Cal with all those people, man?
Speaker 3:Very carefully yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm sure, very carefully. Yeah, I'm sure very carefully. But heck, driving to anaheim, to disneyland takes, like you know, on a map it looks like you know it's a short drive, or hey, let's, let's go to san diego. It's not that far, and then you're there. That's what I'm saying. I, I can't imagine. The only time I've ever seen evacuate, been a part of evacuation, was. This was after Hurricane Katrina. I graduated from LSU in Louisiana, so I went to a football game. I'm like, yeah, it's not, you know who cares, hurricane's not going to hit. It didn't hit Baton Rouge or New Orleans, but there's still, you know, trauma. So they had counter flow. They had to open up both sides of I-10 to drive and I was like literally the last one, cause I'm stubborn, I'm like you, you know I. So I, you know my, my ex-wife is, like you know, pissed that we, we made it to a trip that you know there was a possibility of a hurricane and that contraflow was horrible. I can only imagine oh hey, man, were you expecting everything to burn down like that?
Speaker 3:No, I was expecting to come back and clean up after the win.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean man, and see, I remember that fire was like almost a month, right, or it was like 30 days, 32 days, something crazy. And I mean it reminded me like of Corona, remember at the beginning, where we're like oh, oh shit, this is going to be the rest of our lives, man, when they're doing the news reports and they're like universal studios is going to burn down, and this is going to burn down and you sitting there of our neighbors and all of Our neighborhood burned.
Speaker 3:It looks like a war zone.
Speaker 2:But yet you still weren't like. Why me? You weren't like. Man, first fucking Parkinson's, now this. Why me? It was never like that.
Speaker 3:No, it was more. What asset do I have and how can I keep on keeping?
Speaker 2:on. Well, you are keeping on, and you know that the number one asset that you have, travis which you're doing right now is you're alive, man, because, at the end of the day, man, there's someone worse. There's someone worse. You know that. That's, that's, that's, that's my motto, especially when, for anybody that's feeling sorry for themselves especially oh my god, she broke up with me it's like you know what. There's someone out there worse. You know this. This too shall pass, and dude, people died. It was like 18 people died in that fire, but you and your, your wife, did not die. So you just have to keep. There's more. There's no more pictures to be taken with your photography, and there's more mountains to climb.
Speaker 3:To me, that's what that means right exactly, and I was able to rescue my passport and I'm going on the Bodo Safari to Iceland this summer.
Speaker 2:Now, Travis, this is what I've always wondered about Iceland, and I'm sure you have and everybody. Why is Iceland called Iceland when it looks like a normal country? In frigging Greenland I think there's like maybe 100 people, scientists or whatever. Looks like frigging the North Pole. Looks like Santa Claus lives there. Like who chose those two names, man, You'd think they would trade names.
Speaker 3:Marketing, marketing.
Speaker 2:Marketing. So now, I've always wanted to go to Iceland to see the Northern Lights. You're going to take the pictures of the Borealis and all that.
Speaker 3:No, because they won't be visible this time of year. The sun doesn't set.
Speaker 2:Oh, so you're going to go when it's like 21 hours of sunlight, 22 hours, 20, that's always fun, man I remember I remember going to alaska in the summer a few years ago and it's like 11 o'clock at night and it friggin looks like it's six o'clock that's. That's always amazing man, Weird as hell, but pretty cool. Yes and I will take photos of wonderful in the midnight sun. Now I'm assuming your assistant is your wife on these adventures, have you taken these beautiful pictures?
Speaker 3:No, I have another assistant for photography. My girl, sarah, cannot be arsed to take photos.
Speaker 2:Now, Travis, are you going to be climbing? You're going to be rock climbing, I'm assuming, in Iceland.
Speaker 3:Only as much as necessary to get the photos. Oh, to get the phone, to get the pictures.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got it, travis. Oh, you're such a humble guy Because with me, if somebody is like, hey, we're going to have to do some climbing, it's like, oh, like hills, like normal hills, no, just a little bit of rock climbing just to get the perfect shot. And you know my response would be like, well, I'm sure Kodak, there's Kodak film. Somebody must have taken a picture, you know, past 100, 200 years or so, with Kodak film. Man, I mean, there's that. You know that would be my response. That's why I love the fact that, yeah, there'll be rock climbing, but only if necessary. For most people, travis, it's never necessary to rock climb.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's where you're missing now.
Speaker 2:I'll try baby steps. You know I have a book on overcoming fear, but you know that one, when it comes to the heights, it's not really death. I don't know what the heights. So, man, you do all this rock climbing and you just, I know I've never gone, I've done the wall climbing at the gym and all that controlled environment, but still, man, that requires balance. Isn't one of the things that Parkinson's hits the hardest? Is your equilibrium and balance.
Speaker 3:Yes, hits the hardest is your equilibrium and balance.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it is something that I struggle with every day. So to you it's just like it's just a challenge. It just makes it a little harder. So you just, is it more being more aware? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes, and being better prepared, I frequently wear elbow pads just to get around you know what?
Speaker 2:I and you gotta laugh about this, because this is how people are. I'm sure in SoCal or wherever, wherever you go, there's always someone that wants to tell you how sorry they are for your limitations or your disability, and they don't even know the fucking story that you know. You climb mountains and you overcome obstacles way bigger than what most people do than what most people do.
Speaker 3:Right, and it is one of those things that I ask myself you were able to climb Mount Whitney, but you can't take yourself a bowl of cereal without dumping half of it on your shirt uh, true, true, man.
Speaker 2:It depends on the cereal, though, because most people like the, the real sugary type, like the you know lucky charms, or the stuff with like zero protein, like 200 carbs. Maybe people usually eat the cereal because they're preparing, uh, to eat rock, climb, climb mountains, do, do an ultra marathon.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's why they do it, but they're preparing by carbo loading I mean so I mean, man, do you go out and tell your story to young people, colleges, to high schoolers, man, because so many people need just a wake-up call, because you know young kids feel that if the internet goes down, that that that's a disability right there, that that they're crushed, they're, they're, you know it's. I'm not going to be a boomer because I'm not a boomer, I'm gen x. But whenever you know, oh, there's, you know they're so weak-minded. Usually it's the boomers that say that I don't. I just think sometimes they just need a reality check because life has been a lot easier. I mean you can go do a paper with AI and all this shit for like five minutes, while back in the day, for us, even in high school or whatever, it took like three months to do something that they can do.
Speaker 2:So I think it's not, it's living without resources. So I know, like shit, man, you've, you have, you have so much to tell. Because you know you were like friggin rock climbing at your age, before you know, a year before you were diagnosed. You were like thinking man, I'm gonna be crushing it in my 40s and my 50s, in my 60s, I'm gonna be like a modern day, like you know cliffhanger, like sylvester sloan or I'm gonna be this inspiration just climbing every mountain in the world and it just didn't happen. But you overcame that obstacle, you overcame losing everything in the fire and you know what? To you it's always much like shit happened.
Speaker 3:And the thing that I want to say is what are you going to do about it?
Speaker 2:Man. I love your story, travis. I remember with me I used to run marathons and just one day I tore my ACL. And from running fulls and halves and doing obstacle races it was just like it felt like I lost a friend. But instead I did do other things Lift weights. Do I want to do that? Yeah, I had the PRP. I did everything. I don't want to do the torn ACL at my age. Maybe my ex-wife would want to take care of me for a year. I'm joking. I saw my youngest daughter. She tore her ACL and the full recovery and it was like holy shit, man, you know what.
Speaker 2:Those medals and everything look good, but there's other obstacles. You can always pivot. You can always pivot, but you didn't. You had the courage, man, but also Travis, this is what? Because I know people with Parkinson's. There's just some days that you're off. Are those the days that you're off? Are those the days that, like you go out there and just your everything just feels different? You feel like you can't overcome that obstacle and you're like, hey, let's try this tomorrow. Or is your mindset fuck this. No matter what we're going through, we're going over.
Speaker 3:It kind of depends. You know, some days I cannot get out of bed and those days are what I call high-gravity days, that it feels like someone has turned up the gravity. Other times I feel good. Then those are the days that I try to coordinate, photo shoot or climb, or climb.
Speaker 2:Now that's good, man, because usually and there's still not that doubt that, oh my gosh, you know it's just temporary, because your mindset, you're just like, hey, there's going to be days like this and the universe gives us days like that so that we can appreciate the really good days, and that's, and you know that from be pre. This too shall pass. Now with the photography, you had the assistant with you, because it's much harder now to take a picture than pre-diagnosis correct.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, especially the work that I do. It is full of theatrical setups, theatrical setups usually involving a crew of seven to ten evil lust models. Ball was on those.
Speaker 2:But Travis, you know what they'd say man, it would be easier to take pictures of, like what some of these kids take pictures of. You could take a picture of what you're eating a piece of pizza, maybe a hot dog. You know a picture, a selfie, of you and your wife hashtag living. So you go, you're like no, I want art and I want the theatrical experience. I want this to be like a Martin Scorsese or Steven Spielberg production. Let's bring the crew. Let's create magic.
Speaker 3:Yes, that is what I do, I published two phone books of that.
Speaker 2:Heck. Yeah man, I don't know why you unplug yourself from promote yourself. You know, be a walking billboard. The first thing when we were talking about photography, you should have been like Omar. Two books published by them. Where do they get them, amazon?
Speaker 3:Amazon or blur books.
Speaker 2:And we just look up, Travis Robinson accomplished athlete accomplished photographer, accomplished husband, accomplished amazing guy. Is that what we look up?
Speaker 3:Yes, travis Robinson. The first one is called 22 and is the 22 portraits done as the major arcana from the tarot. And then there is the faces of Parkinson's.
Speaker 2:Travis. You know, I don't know if there'll ever be a cure for Parkinson's. But if somebody asked me, will there be anybody to beat Parkinson's? I would be like, yeah, travis Robinson. It would be like it would be like somebody asking me like you know, is the sky blue? Because to me, man, you, it's just an obstacle. You've, you've gone. And it's funny because you know your publicist. Oh my gosh, yes, we'd love you to have Travis, but he speaks slow.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, well, you know, we all have something to overcome. Like he's got Parkinson's. I'm like, okay, yeah, so does my girlfriend's dad. You know it's out there. If I like, say, yes, I think I've heard of this condition. But yeah, man, I mean you do more with your life with less man, and people live like they're dying, not like overcoming shit. They live like, hey, this is it, it doesn't get any better. But to you it's the opposite. You go every day living to live, because you live every day knowing and everybody, today's a gift, man. Tomorrow is not guaranteed for anybody. I don't care if you're some 18-year-old fucking jo like 5% body fat. You know, if it's your time, man, it's your time tomorrow.
Speaker 3:Right, and we can all get hit by the proverbial buzz, the proverbial buzz Travis.
Speaker 2:it's not just in Southern Cal man, I've been on and you're a world traveler. People fucking can't drive man. So you know I I feel like when somebody's like, do you want to sit outside at a restaurant, I'm like what? So somebody can fucking not park their car Right, and you know my. I have a car on top of me and and my last, my last breath, my last thought would be like I should have taken the inside table.
Speaker 3:Or mine, which is damn. I'm glad I had dessert first.
Speaker 2:You see, but you can't eat dessert first, man, you burn calories up the wazoo, with which you know rock climbing people here. They go to the gym first. They they drive a half hour to find the closest parking spot, which they do. They go on the elliptical which lies to them like their ex-girlfriend and you know it says they burn 1,300 calories in 20 minutes, which is bullshit. Or they're on like that little stationary bike with like a frappuccino from starbucks with extra ice cream, reading a book and it's like no, you're not burning calories at the gym, you're actually. You're having a caloric intake at the gym. Congratulations. But yeah, oh. So, travis, besides this trip to iceland, what else? What else do you want to do? Short term, man? Because you know what fuck. Long term, who knows what? What is it that you want to?
Speaker 3:This year. I would say I am finishing two large photo projects and climbing mountain doll.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have goals, man. Thomas, you're a rock star man, you do life on your terms and you do what people pay, like all this, thousands of dollars, tens of thousands of dollars for someone, a guru, to say goals, have goals. And then they're like holy shit, I just spent $10,000 for someone to tell me if I have goals and I accomplish shit, I will become successful.
Speaker 3:Yes, my card says do cool shit.
Speaker 2:Dude, you do cool shit, man, I mean there's nothing boring about you.
Speaker 3:Cool shit, man, I mean there's nothing boring about you.
Speaker 2:Nothing boring about you, travis. I can talk to you on and on, but we have people with limited time span because they have to go on TikTok or, you know, complain about why their life sucks. But here's a question. Here's my last question to you. What would you tell that person that just feels defeated man, I don't know, their girlfriend dumped them, they got fired, they got too many parking tickets, they got audited, some remedial bullshit, and they feel like their life is just ended. What words of advice would you have to that person?
Speaker 3:you are not dead yet, and it is dead yet, and it is incumbent upon you not to waste the opportunity of life.
Speaker 2:Amen brother, amen of life. Amen brother, amen. You know Travis Robinson. If you do try rock climbing and there's a man that with Parkinson's that just passed you by, that's Travis Robinson. He's a photographer, real art. He's a photographer, real art. He's got two books. Go buy him on Travis Robinson, amazon and Amazon will show you the tariff. Now, have you heard that? Everything you purchase now on Amazon, they want to put how much it's going to cost extra because of the the Donald Trump tariffs?
Speaker 3:Yes, so my books are published here in the United.
Speaker 2:States of America there you go Buy American, buy Travis Robinson's book. How do they, how do people follow you, travis? How do people learn more? Watch YouTube, what is it? How do they get to see you? I know how to find you, just through your publicist and through all the channels, but how do other people find you to get to know you and be inspired to get off their fucking ass, off that couch?
Speaker 3:they can see my work at travisrobbinsboto.
Speaker 2:Awesome, travis. Keep on inspiring. Keep on figuratively and doing, climbing those mountains and showing the world that life doesn't end just because of anything. You're overcoming Parkinson's, you're overcoming mountains. You are an inspiration, like what I told you before we started man, thank you for being on my podcast. It means a lot because Webster would have a picture of you when it shows the definition of what if it did work.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having me, omar.
Speaker 2:No problem, travis, I will keep you posted. I will send you a link. I'll send the publicist. Spend the rest of the day with your wife and spend the rest of today living your life to the fullest. Love you, brother, for a long time.
Speaker 1:To make it happen. You gotta take action. Just imagine what if it did work.