What If It Did Work?
What If It Did Work?
From Pain To Purpose
What if learning didn’t start with content, but with you? We sit down with visionary educator and suicide survivor Kohila Sivas to explore a simple, radical shift: build readiness first, and let performance follow. Her story moves from silence and survival to a framework that helps students and adults focus, regulate, and learn from calm instead of pressure.
Kohila explains her readiness OS, a holistic approach that treats each person as a set of interconnected subsystems—emotion, attention, belief, and environment—that must align before real learning can happen. We unpack why labels like ADHD often hide the root issue, how a five-day immersion sparks immediate change, and what a three-month customized plan can unlock. You’ll hear how language shifts from “I’m stupid” to “I can try,” and how that shift ripples into grades, confidence, and purpose.
We also tackle teacher burnout, school closures, and the limits of test-driven culture. AI enters the chat too: great for scalable content and feedback, but powerless without human connection. Kohila shows how AI plus coaching can personalize growth while keeping trust at the center. Parents get concrete guidance to create calm at home, lower performance pressure, and model values that help kids self-regulate. And if you’re long past school, this still applies: the readiness OS works at any age, because it’s a human learning system, not a classroom trick.
If you’ve felt the system is broken, if you’ve watched a student shut down, or if you want learning to feel like flow again, this conversation offers a path forward—practical, compassionate, and doable. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review with the one change you’d make to education today.
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SPEAKER_04:Alright, everybody, another day, another dollar, another one of my favorite episodes of my favorite podcast. Yes, I'm biased. What if it did work? I've got with me a visionary educator, a master learning success coach, Kohila Sivas. She's a suicide survivor, turned visionary educator on a mission to transform education, mental health, and human potential. At 12, she nearly ended her life. Today she's helping thousands of students. Parents, educators find hope, and success for the system has failed them. This isn't just a new method, it's a rebirth of education itself. Kohila's holistic neurogrowth learning success coaching addresses the root of why students struggle, disconnection from self, stress-laden systems, and a lack of inner alignment. Her mission is to restore what's been lost and redefine what it means to truly learn. She's trained over 300 educators to become holistic neurogrowth learning success coaches, reclaiming their purpose and stepping into a new role, not as tutors, but as a transformational guide. Amen. We have to be on time. We do our work. We don't speak unless spoken to. But just looking back throughout the years, the only it I thought it was I was back in school. Nothing, nothing's changed, and nothing will change.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's not changing, and it's just the foundation of it is just built, as you said, it's the wrong foundation, right? We are not machines, we are a living being. So we need to take care of this living being first to be ready to learn. And the system does assumes that we all come and ready to learn. Unfortunately, that's not how it begins.
SPEAKER_04:Now, you try to give away the gift of life, the ultimate gift at the age of 12. Was it because of stress from from school? Was it all to do with what your grades or not fitting in, or what was it that wanted you to do that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it is a gift of life. Life is a gift, and yes, but I have a second chance to enjoy that. But the first time it was due to me moving to Canada as an you know immigrant, and I didn't know English. I muted myself for a while, so I became very quiet and just life in general. My dad was uh alcoholic, so house uh hold was not safe. So just feeling all of that and just feeling displaced, it's a lot, right? For somebody to take and then not knowing the language. So all of it just kind of you know spiraled down to I'm not worth it, I don't want to be here, nobody cares, even if I'm here or not. That kind of conversations you start having with your brain, it'll feed more facts towards that, and then you decide one day it's over, right?
SPEAKER_04:Well, when people try to commit suicide, it's it's usually because the pain, the pain's unbearable. And I I mean, I get it. I was uh look at this. I was born in this country uh in Miami, but my mom, single single parent, so I was extremely shy. So they they thought I couldn't speak English. Clearly, either Dade County, Miami, Dade County Public School System did such a great job because they they put me in EastL, English for speakers of another language for the first three years, and I could speak perfect English, so I I completely get it. So, where did your family move from?
SPEAKER_01:I'm originally Sri Lankan, Sri Lanka.
SPEAKER_04:So, what what made your family move all the way to uh I'm assuming Toronto, Vancouver, one of the big cities, Montreal?
SPEAKER_01:We moved to Montreal, then lived in Toronto, and then when I graduated, I moved to Vancouver, so I've covered all three.
SPEAKER_04:You you see, I I've I've visited all three, and I gotta say, you your family picked like one of the hardest because when I the times I've been to Montreal, the Quebec City, the province of Montreal, it was like going it like everybody just spoke French. It was like if I was in Europe, the everything everything like the structure, the architecture, very European-like. And I I I couldn't imagine like even myself if you know, speaking English, but not speaking well, I I flunked French in high school, so maybe a little French and going over there, yeah. That's that's a tough place to when you know if you think about these are the Canadians that wanted to be their own country because wow, we we are monthrial, we are French Canadian. We we not so but but did your family not study all of all of Canada? Like, why Canada and not the United States?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. My dad was already here. Uh he moved before us, and we did have war back then. That's the reason that we had to leave, so that was why we left. We had everything back there. So he was already here and he was working in Montreal. So I didn't stay in Montreal for the reason that it was French, so that we uh we want to learn it. My dad wanted us to study in English, so that's why we moved to Ontario, uh, where I did study in English, but even then it's just a lot of shock. Um, because moving to a new country, new place, new culture, new new everything. Everything is new.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, not only everything's new, but been to Ontario too. And Ontario is still to me night and day compared to like Vancouver or or Toronto, a huge city, people of different color, race, money, not money. To to me, like Ottawa, like for Americans or people that have never been to Canada, you would never think that that's the the capital of of Canada because it's like it's not a huge city, it's not a huge bustling area.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's small compared to what American cities are, it's very small. Yeah, so that's how it all started. I just wasn't a fitting in at school for sure. Um, I decided to end my life. I I learned that um it was it is a second chance to be here. So coming back out of it is when I started really applying myself in math. I worked, I started paying attention in math, and then that became therapy for me. So I started cracking the codes of math and learning math in a different way, which was different than what everybody was teaching me at that time. So I decided that, you know, if I want to do something in this world, I have to share what I learned with others. So I became a teacher. So that's how it started. Why I needed to become a teacher was I want to share everything. But unfortunately, in the classroom, you know, there's too many students, and um, you don't really get to the students like myself who are stuck or at the back, who are shy.
SPEAKER_04:It's a system. I I know some so many of my friends became teachers because they wanted to change the system, wanted to create change in the world, but overall, the education system in North America is so antiquated and it's so huge. That's only in movies and TV shows where oh my gosh, you change, you know, everything changes, everybody lives happily ever after. It doesn't work that way. And I'm sure when you got to that point, you got burnout because you're like, here I am. I want to save people, I want to help, especially people that were just like you. But you know, it's like, let's just pass them. We need to pass them, we need them to attend because attendance is important. Not not for learning. Attendance is important because we need the students there because we get paid less money if they don't show up that day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we we have to keep the counts and safety also because it is treated as a babysitting.
SPEAKER_04:Of course, of course, because if they're not if they're not there, they might be doing crime, they might be doing they're up to no good. So, you know, it's like big brother, you know, we we we can keep them here contained. And what's crazy is none of this is like no, we we the bad students, let's let's try to rehabilitate. Why are they bad? Because people like you and I that have done the work, the personal development, the reason nobody is bad. Usually it's because it's a cry for attention. They're not getting attention at home. Now they're going to school and they feel they don't want that they feel different, they they want to be a part of something. So let me be the clown, let me make you know, let me do stupid things. Instead of punishing them, you know, like what you said, because you wanted to change people, these people, no one is broken, they just are hurting and need attention for something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely. You're speaking my language already. So love it, love it. So in the classroom, I don't um since I gave up really poorly the first time, you know, trying to die and coming back. I don't take this life uh lightly. So I didn't give up. I didn't get burned out when I was there. I knew I was going to because I'm not reaching the students that I want to. So I decided that I would start my own tutoring business. There I could deliver more personalized um education to the students and deliver my math codes to them. So which I did, I had a very successful business. Unfortunately, the um tutoring is sort of like the going to the emergency, right? For parents, like they get need to work with their student to perform. It was always based on performing. It wasn't about building the student to become an independent thinker or a learner. So I didn't want to be part of that. I don't want to be paid just to get marks, I don't want to be paid just to cram and go write a test.
SPEAKER_04:To to like soak up everything and then vomit on a test. And then that's it. Who cares? If if you learned anything about it, the most important thing is to get that passing grade.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I didn't want to be part of it. And during that time, I started shifting because it's my business. I can shift. And what I noticed is that when my students came, they were not ready to learn. They came to me, but they were not ready to learn even math. So I started really coaching them on how to learn and really getting them to intrinsically motivated to wanting to learn and having that hunger to learn and figure things out. I started doing that in my practice, and that's how I got busy and busy. And because every time I did that, everybody started performing really well. The byproduct of doing that became the performance, which is what I wanted to create. So that's how I created my coaching methodology. And I took my business online 15 years ago and I started my coaching practice. Of course, during COVID, it was we became very successful. People were looking for online stuff, right? So my business was established. So after that, COVID in uh situation is when I started training other teachers, and now I have over 300 people trained and operating. So what we do, just to clarify, it's not tutoring, it's not teaching, it's coaching, it's holistic coaching, which means that you know everybody thinks that when we're starting to teach someone, they're ready to learn, right? There's a second that we're ready to learn. But that's not always true. There is a step before that, which is the readiness to learn. We fill in that gap. So we are the foundation. So in the future, I see this in every school, every human should be learning this. It doesn't matter what age, even in the personal development. They think we're developing our broken selves, but you don't need to be broken if you learn this readiness OS that I've created, which really looks at you as a soul. And you're made out of subsystems, creating this whole system. We look at where is the block and we unblock and we get you into flow, and buying in flow, you can achieve anything like you said before, because there is not a single person on this world who cannot achieve if they're in flow, right? They only do, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So that's what this is crazy. So it's more you want people to learn because isn't that what life is about? That since we're not stagnant, we're either growing or we're dying. So what you what people should do is to actually learn, learn something different, look expand your vision, expand your mind, try different things and be grow as a human instead of let's just pretend we're a Xerox machine or or memorize something over and over. And then that that's that's why I think too people want to learn because they think learning is let's memorize everything that's on a test and and just vomit it uh onto a paper.
SPEAKER_01:Over the years, we all have bad experience, forced, forced to perform, pressured to perform. So I'm eliminating force and performance, and I'm putting back in flow into the equation. When you're flowing, you want to do it, you love to do it, you enjoy to do it, right? You're enjoying it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I I was uh even though I I have a master's degree and uh bachelor's people my assistant principal told me it'd be a cold day in hell the day I graduated college, which she was right, it did snow the day and it was in Louisiana. But the the thing is I was turned off because 80s and 90s, I graduated in 1991, so 70s, I guess, 70s, 80s, early 90s, it was all like oh, like you're a performance animal. Like, oh here, we'll give you a treat, like you're a dolphin, or you know, oh, you got an A, you get this, oh, and it's like that's even I didn't want to feel that way, or I didn't want to feel since I was an only child, like you know, I didn't want to feel like I was a nerd or I was some I I just wanted to be, you know, obscure. I I didn't want to be obscure, but I just wanted to be just average, so I didn't get great grades, but it it it had nothing to do with not wanting to because I tell people all the time I learn now more through seminars or books or the internet free stuff than I ever did first through 12 or in college.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely, and information is available, everybody can learn, but we need to learn how to get into the flow to learn, right? Because what right now the biggest biggest deficit is uh people not able to focus, right? And focus and bring their attention into this focal point that they can do it. So the missing link in the education system is we never prepare any of us to be ready. And when we're doing that readiness, we're looking at it this as a soul, and what we did during our years, like your years, my years of education, and currently as well, we are suppressing these systems, so then it doesn't have the expression ability to express, and then we then start calling ourselves stupid or dumb or I can't do it, right? All of these things, and then end up being eventually depressed.
SPEAKER_04:Well, then we have all these labels ADD, ADHD, uh oh, your your your kids overactive, your kids this, your kids that. It's like, well, maybe he's just bored, or maybe it's because you know the material is the same thing. He keeps on going, he or she keeps on going to class and not learning anything. It's like, okay, well, we need to pass this to pass the estate exam or this and that. It's never really been about like studying. I I remember they just stopped a couple years ago. Stanford University encouraged people to take classes, and there was no grade, and people are oh, that's so stupid. That's so stupid. I thought that was an amazing idea because it's really to learn. I mean, anybody, any moron can can you know memorize something that that doesn't mean you're smart. I I I mean, I I had a photographic memory, so I was bad at math, but the other stuff I just had to read one time and you know, oh my gosh, this guy knows his material. No, it was just you read it and you you know like a performer and just you know go through the motions. But that that's what I love about about what could because it's two things. There's a problem, people don't want to be teachers, educators anymore, and people it's because of the money. No, it's because they're burnt out, right? I mean, they feel like what's the point? What am I yeah? I'm I'm here to what like for the what what teachers feel like is like the same thing is like if they're in a uh like a pre-K, like uh just BPK, whatever they uh just babysitting kids for for four or five hours. Well, a high school teacher has to babysit six hours different class, and that's it. Oh good, you you learned, let's just pass an exam, and that's it. It has nothing to do with money because money doesn't people that make millions kill themselves or billions. It's it's because if you don't feel fulfilled and it teachers aren't fulfilled, just like the students are, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're they're struggling to get results because they're dealing with a lot of severe behaviors that's never been seen in the classroom, and that is how it's going to the system is going to have to change because if our students do not know how to focus and flow into the learning state, these are the learning state, they come to school dysregulated, you cannot you can't do what you're planning to do, right? So I always go back to this analogy of if you have a store and you keep putting merchandise in and no one's buying in it, and you're just like, you know what, I'm just gonna keep putting more and more and more, and no one's buying in it. And eventually you gotta close it down because your customers are your students and they don't want what you're selling. They don't want it, and that is being displayed through behaviors, and those behaviors are felt by all teachers and principals and counselors, and then they're burning out. So we have a big problem, right? We can't just ignore it anymore. So it's like a foreigner ignoring, thinking, yeah, it's gonna work out. No, it's not.
SPEAKER_04:It's here in South Florida, they're closing schools because people now are so fed up with the school system that they'll either. Go private or homeschooling because I mean the school system's so broken. So instead of hey, what can we do differently? They're concerned about which schools to close, why do we have to close it? So it's like nobody ever wants to just look at the in it's like looking in the mirror and going, if I want change, I have to change myself. Instead, it's always like, oh, what's what's the why why are everybody doing this? It's because you know nothing's changed. It's like it's like trying to lose weight and you've done it for four months, five months, and nothing's nothing's changed. Well, clearly some it's not you want to lose weight, you have to look within and go, well, something I'm doing is wrong. And that's the same thing with with school system throughout North America.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely. So we're at a critical point where behaviors are going out of control. So if it keeps changing in that direction, we do need to bring something to get the students to be ready to learn, which is what I have created. So I do see a future of every single school adapting what I have created, and I was only able to create this because I always, always from young age, nothing made sense to me. And uh I always asked why. Like I thought I was stupid for asking why all my life, but I always asked why. Like this, there has to be something different, right?
SPEAKER_04:So this is because you're an outlier, because you're gonna laugh, but that scene is like in the movies or whatnot. Oh, you're you're you're bad because you think outside the box. We need to bring you inside, and and that's that's what a lot of the school system does is oh, that person's a free thinker. They what never question because we want people, you don't question your boss, you don't question the factory, you just do, and if you need to if you need to speak, wait your turn. And if if the the good boss wants you, wants to answer your question or feels that you should talk, then wait your turn. And that's that's literally how it is. That and people are gonna laugh and say that's not true. That's that's a hundred percent. Because you know, back then it was okay, let's get these kids, you know, train them so they could work for Ford or work for which whichever huge factory, and and now now look at it. It it you know, times have changed, but the school system hasn't. Well, here's my question to you a struggling student. Let's say the kid's been struggling day one, it's been years. How how long till there's a shift with the holistic neurogrowth learning system? Like how long till you is it overnight or is it like a gradual process?
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna see a shift immediately after going through our five-day process. We have a first five-day process. There's gonna be a shift because they're going to be looked for the first time as a human being, not a student, not here to perform, not what's your grade, but we're gonna take the time. I I'm gonna take the time to look at you as you are a person, you are a soul that has not been seen or heard by others. So, number one is immediate thing that we hear and see immediately is how they open up to conversations with us so they can give us more information about how their systems are working, those subsystems. So, in we have three to six months huge changes. I have a student because I'm I now coach other coaches to do this. So her student, she started working with less than uh three months into the program, he was on four different medications. He was actually suspended from schools because he was a threat to other kids. Now he's off all of those medications, and he was actually presenting as someone in the front of the class this uh Remembrance Day uh this week. So that is not a child you would have seen even mildly, even to be involved in a ceremony like that, right? So these are the shifts. It's not about marks. Marks is a byproduct. So when they go through all of this, they are going to perform really well because they are now grounded, they're supported, they believe in themselves, they have confidence, they commit instead of saying I'm stupid or I can't do it, they are like, I can try this, right? The language changes. So all of this, we have stories like that all the time. Now we do we take people off of medication? Of course not. It's the job of the doctor, right? But when they see the change, they're able to say, you know what, we don't need this medication anymore because your behaviors are not there anymore, right? Because that's why medications are prescribed, because out of control behaviors. Now he doesn't have any. So that's a prime example of what this can do, is because number one thing everybody wants in this world as a human being is seen, heard, and valued and to matter, right? Value to matter, yeah, who they are, and then you've also mentioned labels, right? Like ADHD autism. Now, everybody wants to look at this child through those labels. For me, that doesn't matter. Remove the layer, look at the person behind the label because labels only can work in strategies and tactics. How I'm gonna help you. But I want to know who you are. Who are you behind this label? And this is another problem that we have created. We're putting so many layers, it's like a cocktail of labels on people, but they're still a human being, there's a soul behind all of these labels. Now we gotta look at how do you learn, right?
SPEAKER_04:Well, it's it's it's funny with the labels because I mean, I guess I I would label myself socially awkward or extreme introvert, but I guess now if I was a little kid, instead of the like late 70s, now they'd be oh well that Omar, he's on the spectrum, he's gotta be on the spectrum. And everybody that we we tend to that that feels just a little different or whatnot, no matter what, they're oh, they're always on the spectrum. He's he's got some Asperger's. Maybe it's just the person's just awkward, or he's shy, or just lacks confidence. That doesn't mean it to me.
SPEAKER_01:One of your system is blocked, or one of your system is blocked, and that's where we go. We go to the root of the problem. We do if that it is, it's not about the label. Yeah, you may be shy, you may not talk, you may uh avoid uh you know eye contact. Great, but still, what is the block though? There is a block that was either conditioned by someone or during some time of your childhood, right? Or at the school level, right? We are conditioned throughout our all of our throughout our life, right? So we got to go do that conditioning and look at it, and then from there we start neurologically changing the pathway so that eventually you're like, you know what? I can talk when I want, I can be quiet when I want. I'll be outgoing when I want, and I'll be shy if I want, but it's a choice I have.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that's that's what I love about it. We all have choices instead of just giving someone a label that they have to carry uh around for forever and ever. And it's like, oh, if somebody's like it, it's like all of a sudden, oh well, Elon Musk is is on the spectrum. We we live if somebody just has a different behavior, whether it's their work-life balance is different, or just to have great ideas or ideas will match the rest of us, yeah. Yeah, if we had that standard, then Thomas Edison is on was on the spectrum. Albert Einstein was definitely Tesla, you know, every Galileo, like every innovator or Henry Ford, anybody that thought outside the box is, and to me, that's why I I look at that like what you said. We all we're we're all the soul, we're not just somebody that you know, oh, this person doesn't fit everything in the box. So let's let's give them a label that they're on the spectrum, or they've got ad, adh d, all these different alphabets that I I can't even keep keep up.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and if we think every one of us have a different fingerprint, we're all born with our own soul print. So why not give the space and grace for those souls to express themselves? Why do we put them through the same education system as if they're the same being, learn at the same pace, learn, do what the same things, and then we come out of the classroom, go into the real world, and then we all need to develop ourselves in personal development, right? In our 40s and 50s, we now have to develop ourselves because we didn't do what we could have done when we were going through the education system. These were things we should have learned and mastered so we can become productive adults into the real world because uh real world doesn't have any mercy, it's real world. You're out there in the open world, you gotta do what you gotta do, right?
SPEAKER_04:Well, well, and the also too in the real world now, like social media and parents put so much pressure on children to get into the the right university, and and it's not mainly for the kid, it's for bragging rights too, as a parent, because we vicariously want to live through our our child. Our our child went to this university, went to Duke, went to Stanford, went to Vanderbilt, let's post it, let's wear everything, let's and and then okay. That's the after, but before, oh, you better score. You better score high on that ACT, you better score high on that SAT. We need all these great, we need you to have a 5.0, we need you to do this, we need you. I mean, oh my gosh, that I mean, why can't a child just learn? And it doesn't matter a million before I was an entrepreneur for 20 years, so I worked in corporate America before, and I worked now. Not one person has ever asked me for my transcripts, college, high school, not one person ever asked me, oh, what university? It in fact, what what people don't understand is why people want college, they're gonna train you into their system, whatever corporation. It just shows that you're committed, that you can do something, you can stay committed for four years. You you you got a degree. But and me, I've never, and and we we even have this oh, where did you graduate? Or what degree do you have? Because it it gives us what level of respect and attention shall I give this person instead of who cares? I never ask anybody where they went to school, unless it's for college football here in the United States. That's important, but that's about it. I don't care if you went to college, but it and that's why you know not only is the system broken, but there's more pressure now for these kids to go to the right school than when we went, and because academia is a business, now prices for any university is gone through the roof because it's a business and they know the way we you know we live and breed for for our children to go to the the right quote unquote the right school, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And if if that is a plan that you and your child decide you want to go to a right university or college, that is that's beautiful. You can do that too. There's nothing wrong with it, but being being forced to perform, and then if you're if you already live a life like that yourself, your parents did that to you, and you have to ask yourself, am I happy? Like because happiness is measured for different people differently, right? So you can ask as a parent, am I happy with my life, how I went to the perfect university? Is my life now, you know, perfect the way I dreamt to be? If that's true, then show your child that. And then by showing that example, yes, they can witness it. If that is true and you're happy and your soul is being expressed, you're living the life, then they're gonna look and say, you know what, I want to do exactly like you did. I want to go to the best university and I want to recreate the life you have, mom and dad, because I see you as your my evidence right here. But if you went to a big university and your life is miserable and you're living unhappy and you want to force that onto your child, that's the place you must rethink that cycle, I guess. Right.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, but also all this pressure. Kohila, if you and I went to different schools, the ones that we graduated from, our life would be still the same, in my opinion. If you're socially if you didn't have a good time in college, it was something in you you could have gone to a thousand other schools, and you probably wouldn't fit in. And that's like my my youngest, who's this? I'm like, honey, you're gonna fit in wherever that this isn't life or death. You you can go to whichever school and you'll have an amazing time because life is what you make it. Yeah, it's just like happiness. We decide to be happy, we decide our surroundings, and we decide to make the best of it. Now, I here's the question I want to ask. Now, you're training educators to become success coaches, the holistic neurogrowth learning success coaches. Now, do you believe that if you get enough that there can be such a seismic shift? Or are we looking to create these, like, okay, you know, the system's broken, let's let's do our own either charter school or our our own homeschooling system? Because I I think it's hard to train someone to think completely outside the system, outside the box, and then try to implement that back into the school board system of wherever they're from.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I haven't taken it into the school system, but right now we're at a um sort of a very interesting time, right? Because AI is coming, right? So all eyes are on AIs, uh, AI to substitute teaching or uh expand the teaching or fix the teaching in the school system. So I'm at a very interesting point. I know that it doesn't matter what comes in, I don't matter what AI you create, without human human connection, you will not be able to serve a soul. The human connection has to be there. So eliminating teachers is not a possibility in any school. So for that reason, what I think will need to happen is AI can do all of the machine things that teams can operate on, and they have infinite intelligence, so that could also give us feedback to work on it, right? I have uh AI working for us as well, and then we still need the readiness, which is the human component, and that part, all teachers can do it. If they go through our training, any teacher can do it, as long as they understand that there is a state that comes before learning. If they don't believe there's a state before learning, they just think that we all enter learning right away, then we cannot force people to rethink that. But anyone who believes that there is a missing link and they all know it in their in every part of their cell, like everyone I train, they know there's something not right, there's not something working. What is it? And then if you ask any of my coaches, that's what they say. This is the missing link because they felt it, right? So if you were that type of educator, you definitely will need this OS system, the readiness OS, and then AI can do all of it, and our students are gonna perform because they are so um grounded, they know who they are, they have motivation, intrinsic motivation, no one else is motivating them. They are gonna perform and they're gonna do very well. You know, it's it's what we want, right? Everyone can perform, but we can't push performance before readiness.
SPEAKER_04:Well, what I love about just your system is to me, it's transformational change, which all comes from within. Once a student, once someone realizes that they they do matter, that they are a human, that they're not a number, that they're not just your social security, that they're just not a statistic, that's very that's very empowering to know that I I do matter because I mean I I kept on trying to accomplish things through mo a lot of years of my life because I felt like I needed to to do something to matter. But at the at the base, once some per one once someone knows that, yes, their behavior changes. They're not gonna be acting up or trying to be the class clown or you know, doing stupid things looking for attention.
SPEAKER_01:Purpose. Every child needs to know purpose, they need to know their purpose in life, and that can be implemented very early in their life. They don't need to be adult to know their purpose, they can start with the purpose, meaning, like what is my sole purpose, right? Not somebody else's agenda or my parents' agenda, but who am I here to be? And that is brought out through parenting, and then if we implement along with that values, right, and start to coach them through that. Uh that's why we host now, we just started hosting events for parents because we find that parents are definitely struggling because there is a new, new kind of um problems that are surfacing, even for parents. So we just had one in Scotdale, we had one in Ontario, now we have one coming up in Edmonton next weekend. That is what we're gonna be doing. We have one coming up in Florida in uh January. So, what what we want to do is bring parents in and really coach them to go back to the fundamentals and being calm and present with their kids so they can also have a calm child, because what we are seeing is not everyone, majority of the students are entering into learning in a dysregulated way, in some capacity, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Kohila, can how with the holistic neurogrowth learning success program? It's November. Can a student hop on board in November, or there's like a starting point, like the beginning of the semester, August or January, the start of the new year, or is this a program designed that you you can you can start January, March, August? It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01:Anytime. It's not based on the school, it's gonna be based on looking at your soul print and looking at the systems that are blocking you, and we start unblocking them by coaching, and then by that, whatever you need to do, it could be education, it could be a job. I mean, our oldest student, our oldest client is 70 year old. We no longer work with just students. This empowerment is not for students. This is a human OS system, right? Is human readiness. So if you had missed anything in the school system, he this is where you can come and have a course. Coach work with you one-on-one, which customizes with our AI that I've trained. Everybody gets customized sole print uh um coaching. And by doing that, there's nothing available in the market at all. It's like it's 10 to 12 years ahead of everybody else doing because everyone else is working with generic stuff. I work with individualized plan.
SPEAKER_04:So it could be what I I love sevenly. We're all students of life. Seven either you're growing or you're dying. So that that right there, he your that student is still on the path of growth.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, but they're blocked to live their life.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, right.
SPEAKER_01:Either you're blocked to learn or you're blocked to live, or you're blocked to lead. And when I say lead, people think you're gonna lead the you know country. No, you're always leading yourself.
SPEAKER_04:You're leading you, we're all leaders.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I lead my life, I lead others that I'm responsible for. So I am a leader, you're a leader, you have a family, you lead your family.
SPEAKER_04:CEO. See you're all a CEO of your life, and I I tell people Yes, you are the center of the universe, you are the center of your own system, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:So everybody can use this. If they're leaders, they can use it. If they're living and they're being blocked, they can use it. If they're student and they can't learn, they can use it. Because it is the human readiness system, not educational based at all. I started that way because that's where my background is. But what I have created now is the human readiness system. Anyone can use it, any age can use it, and we customize for every single person. That's like so powerful for me because um, if it wasn't for AI, I couldn't have done it. So I'm so excited to live in this time of our in a human era because um I was put here with all of this, working up to this, and then boom comes the AI to be available to us. I just see amazing things can happen. Um, and and and you know what? The my beautiful um in my head, what I picture is that you know how uh before we had uh slavery, right? And then we created free slave freedom, right? And then everybody started going into work. Now, if you think about it, if all of us could learn from peace and from pleasure, then force and friction and pressure, we will all perform beautifully. Nobody needs to push us, nobody needs to, you know, uh keep telling us what to do. We will do it because it actually flows naturally. So performance, if you want performance, if a leader is looking for theirs that's apt to perform, don't pressure them. Unblock them.
SPEAKER_05:So the five so five first thing is a five-day immersion.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, and then what happens after? Like, how often do you do you meet?
SPEAKER_01:It depends. We decide during that time we will build a three-month program, and sometimes we meet people twice a week, sometimes we meet them three times, sometimes it's one, once sometimes it's twice a month. Like it depends. That's what I'm saying. We will customize to where the person is, how much time do they have, and what results are they looking for, and how fast are they looking for that results, right? Because some of our students come like we have, you know, I need to, you know, under pressure. So if we can do it, we're gonna say no, that's not possible. So we also you know implement expectations, right? Correct expectations. Sometimes we have over expectations on some stuff against us, so that's not gonna work. So it depends. All is possible, anything is possible because when customization is involved, you just customize to fit that soul, right?
SPEAKER_04:So then also, and then you just evaluate every every person every quarter.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. After the three months is done, we always go back. You'll know exactly if I if I don't tell you where you're winning, the like parents and the students and the coache, like it doesn't matter, the 70-year-old will be saying, Oh wow, you know, when I used to do that, I I I couldn't even do it. Now look at me, I'm doing it with ease. Like the client will tell us. You know, we don't need to assess them, they'll tell us. That's the proof, right? Because they're feeling it, they're living it, they're accomplishing things that they've never done before, because they're able to um really pinpoint the block and then know when you uh become aware of something that you do, it's never gonna go away, right? We'll always have awareness. Awareness is so powerful. So when someone is aware, this is what's stopping me. They can catch that anytime in their life, and then they can move forward.
SPEAKER_04:Well, not only awareness, but it bleeds out when when you're winning in one aspect of your life, when you're a leader, it shows up in every part of your life. Absolutely, and that's what people don't understand is it's what it's on the opposite scale. If some someone is not winning, if if they're losing at one aspect of their life, it's not just that one aspect, it shows up everywhere. And if someone is leading and leading in their life, mind, body, spirit, their social life, everything is in alignment, and they're getting wins everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's it's evidence that evidence is unstoppable.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah. When I I tell people, oh well, this guy is is a mess at work. I'm like, it's not just a mess at work, it shows up everywhere. They're their car, their their house, that their ethics, everything. And that's why that's why I I love what you bring out because once once it it no one's broken. They just you need to scratch the record, change someone's focus, know that they do matter, that they are a soul, that they are a human, and then it's like, okay, now watch this person.
SPEAKER_01:I've I've helped so many souls who people have washed you know hands on them, like you're not capable, you can do this, right? And it just changes. I mean, that's why I said every human wants to be seen, heard, and valued.
SPEAKER_04:Well, you're gonna laugh. That's why when people are conditioned because they keep on hearing, oh, you're this, you're that, you're stupid, you're a leader. If you're a leader, then they become a leader. It's like when people are like, oh, like I can say, oh my gosh, I'm a Leo, I'm a leader. No, it's because someone instilled in you. It's it's not if we were born like on a deserted island somewhere, they're not gonna be, oh yes, that person is a Scorpio. You you're a Scorpio and you have all the traits. No, it's if somebody keeps on saying you're this, you're this, you're this, you're that, you start believing it. And that's why, oh yeah, that that that kid's slow, that kid doesn't know how to do that. That that kid's what what a waste, what a waste. Well, then if you keep hearing that, that that's no like that, and that's why I always laugh when somebody's like, Oh, well, you're a mismatch to that person because of their horoscope sign. It's like, no, they're just conditioned to to hear, oh, this is who you are, these are your traits. Well, yeah, you've you you've heard it your whole life, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But how about if we could change to the matter what you hear? Because you can hear a lot of things these days, people are sometimes mean, right?
SPEAKER_04:So people can say whatever you want, but you know who you are, you know who you are to the the only person that can define you is yourself, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So how about being at ease and like fully grounded in knowing who you are, and when someone says something, that's your opinion.
SPEAKER_04:That's then fully grounded in hey, I'm not here to seek your validation. No, I'm not here to make you think I'm amazing for happiness.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's our program is not uh oh yeah, and also my our program is not affirmations.
SPEAKER_04:There's a whole bunch of people think if I just say this, it's gonna work no because if you're gonna block this kind of you can lie to your you know, if deep down inside you feel like you're a winner, affirmations only work after you do the work, yes, that that's like me telling telling uh I I have a blown-out knee of AC uh torn ACL, but I used to run marathons, I haven't done one in like six years. But if I all of a sudden said, I am an athlete, I can run 26.2 miles, 42 kilometers is nothing. I didn't do the work, I'm gonna go out there and fail. Yes, that that's why people don't understand affirmations. Yes, they do work, but you do the work, and then that that's just like the icing on the cake because you have the base, you've done the work. But if you if you don't believe I can say, Oh, I'm a winner, I'm a winner, I'm a winner. But deep down inside, I know I'm not a winner, I'm just wasting my time just saying blanket statements.
SPEAKER_01:No, and thoughts are actions, right? So the more you say it, you're gonna take those actions and you do have to take the action.
SPEAKER_04:You have to once you're confident, then yes, you can take the action. But if if a person keeps on planning or saying they're gonna take action, it's because deep downside they they're either not worthy or they have this fear of failure or something. So, yes, definitely. I oh I I know it's not affirmations because you you never once uh we we you and I know the woo-woo, but there's something behind the woo-woo. If it's just woo-woo, then you're gonna go, oh oh when you fail.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes, and then when I say soul print, people think is spiritual, it's it it it is I am a spiritual person. Uh, you could be spiritual, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm looking at it as a biological subsystems that run us, we're run on subsystems. So if this one system wants to achieve and perform, just like a car, right? You can have a Lamborghini, but if it's uh things are not working in order, it's misaligned, you're not going anywhere. You can have the world's best thing.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I can have a Lamborghini parked in in front of my house, but if I don't I don't have the keys or I don't move it and it's just there, that's like potential. Yeah, it's wasted, it's eventually gonna go away, it's eventually gonna rust, so it's gonna go away. So yeah, no, uh 100%. And you're gonna laugh at this. We're all spiritual, even people that say they're not spiritual, they they believed at one time, and because the universe or God or whatever they believe in, they thought it was just like the wish or the or affirmations or something, and it didn't come through. They thought, so now they don't believe. So having the not belief that the you that life isn't about Santa Claus and wanting everything, there's still we still believe in something. Either you believe in in something or you believe that there is not something. We are all spiritual. You you and I are just realizing that we do have souls, and everything does matter, and that life, there's more to life than a grade, or there's more to life than a diploma, or a piece of paper, or going to a job and and having your your boss give you a side hug and say, You did an amazing job.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely. So the soul system is your subsystems working together to keep you as a human who wants to express. So, how can we give you freedom to express? You know, that's that was my question all along was how can we express with freedom and and do good things and achieve and sell others?
SPEAKER_04:Well, people sit on the sidelines because they're fearful. But if you take away that fear, we're we're all unstoppable.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. And you talked about potential, right? So potential is stored energy, so if we unlock it, it can turn into kinetic, and that's where motion comes, right? So it'll actually work beautifully.
SPEAKER_04:Well, once once there's motion, you move towards something. No mo once there's motion, there's no stopping it.
SPEAKER_01:The problem is kinetic, then there's output, right? There's gonna be some results.
SPEAKER_04:That's like when when someone's oh I'm sad. Well, go out for a walk, enjoy the weather, look up at the sky, look at look at the beauty that we live in. You won't feel sad now. If there's no movement, that's when all the negative stuff comes, and you know.
SPEAKER_01:So if you add to that, what you just said, can you imagine if somebody understands their emotional system? That why am I feeling sad? Like we go deep into that system and figure out heck yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Where were you like 30 years ago? I wonder how to pay so much money in personal business development and uh in life in general, but no, how do people because to me uh this goes from like four all the way to 80 or 90 or whatever they're like anyway? How do people find this the system to unlock unlock the so they can find their true self?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yes, their true potential. Um, I'm all over social media, so LinkedIn is a great place. I have lots of articles I publish, you know, almost daily. It's my favorite platform, and then I'm on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, but uh our website is holistic success codes, right? So they can reach me there or anywhere. Cohila Sivas, I'm always the same person.
SPEAKER_04:And with technology, you don't even have to be Canadian. You can be here in Florida, you could be anywhere trying to achieve your best life, correct?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we are moving to US too, so we our business is already there as well. So we'd serve a lot of Americans, so you know we're all human, we all have the same systems.
SPEAKER_04:You you could go global because the the this epidemic is is you know, every continent, everybody does needs to know that they matter.
SPEAKER_01:We have we have uh coaches in Europe, yeah. We have different places, so I'm excited for what's possible for our us humans.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, this book probably would have helped me. My my kids, 18 and 20, my two year kids, but you wrote two fascinating books. This one for sure. Uh wish I would have had it 18 years ago, 19 years ago. Cracking the parents code.
SPEAKER_01:Parenting codes, yeah. It's um it's really going back to the fundamental because um we can have all these trends, and you know, this is what you need to do to be a leader of your family. Yes, yes, yes, all of them come and go, but we always go back to the fundamental, right? There's some fundamental about everything, and that's why people think simple. If you tell somebody something very simple, they're like, Oh, that's not gonna work. They're looking for something complicated. Guess what? It's the complicated that doesn't work.
SPEAKER_04:Well, we make I always tell people life isn't life, it is very easy, we just make it complicated, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And we want complicated things afterwards.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yes, and and and we all know what we have to do, but we we we try to make it look like it's calculus, so then this way, well, I don't know how to figure this out. That's why I can't take action. It's like, no, you you really do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, simple thing is being here and now, right? One of the things as parents we can do anytime, every time, all the time is we're so caught up in our past situations, and our past mind keeps us stuck there, or our future mind predicts projecting what that is over here, producing all of the thoughts instead of we need to be here, here and now. It's a fundamental world.
SPEAKER_04:That's all we have, right? Is the now you have this breath?
SPEAKER_01:This here is what I have. And why am I obsessing with the past and projecting future and creating my own story versions when I can even know if if I this might be my last day?
SPEAKER_04:Why am I gonna be worried about 10 years from now? Worried about today, and like what you said, we don't have a time machine, the past is abstract, it it's it happened already, can't do anything about it. Let's just move to today and let's just think about today. And then also, you have the the teacher's epic exit plan.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, let me let me tell you that should be that's a new book I'm writing.
SPEAKER_01:That was when I wanted to share my story of how I left the school system. I shared it, a lot of people loved it. It's got all of my journey there, but I'm rewriting it. It's now it's gonna be called something to do with the blocks to flow or the readiness OS because now I have a um more global view of this problem we've been working on. So that's coming out probably January or February. I will be launching a new book. So it's no longer about teachers, it's no longer about learning, it's about actually really changing the way humans live, learn, and lead, right? It's all one thing, it's holistic.
SPEAKER_04:That's amazing. And Kohila, I always finish with a question. What do you what words of advice, words of your wisdom to that person that just feels like hey, I'm 30, I'm 40, I just maybe I'm 16, 17, I feel disconnected. I feel like I don't matter. I feel like what's my what's the point in going to school? What's the point, my job? What's the point in doing anything? I feel lost.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And that is because as I always say, you're spending way too much in the past. What you need to do is look at the past and thank the past for giving you all the things that you need to and take the lessons from it, and you need to let it go, right? Say thank you and let it go. And the other part is your future. Most of us, what we do is we take and project what happened in the past into the future and we create our own stories. So we're doing that. All we have is the future is gonna come no matter what. We can bless it, whatever's gonna happen, and we need to release it because it's not in our hands. What's in your hand is now. This moment, this space you have is now. What can you do now? So every day when you're stuck in the past or the future, ask yourself, and by bringing yourself in the middle with your hands like this, in the middle, and clap and say, What can I do now? And that's all you have. And that's what I do every day. What can I do now? And then there's a movement and a momentum, and that gets me going, and that'll get you going too.
SPEAKER_04:Wow, that's awesome! Thank you. Thank you for the gift, the gift of you giving me an hour of your time to spread your message. And you are in service, you want to make a seismic, not a little shift, you want to make a seismic shift.
SPEAKER_01:1.5 billion humans.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. I I love that. And I know you'll be on, so you can discuss all the accomplishments and the movements. That you are creating. Best of luck with everything and thank you. Thank you for your time.
SPEAKER_01:And thank you for listening to me.
SPEAKER_04:All right.
SPEAKER_00:What if you took action and made it happen? It's gonna live in the side of your probate. What if it did work? Right now, you can make the choice to never listen to the negative voice no more. The hardest prison to escape is our own mind. I was trapped inside that prisoner for a long time. To make it happen, you gotta take action. Just imagine what if it did work.