What If It Did Work?
What If It Did Work?
From Near-Fatal Crash To Ageless Energy: How Bob Gilpatrick Rewires Health, Muscle, And Mind
What if the gap between your age and your energy is wider than you think—and fixable? That’s the wager we make as we sit down with longevity strategist Bob Gilpatrick to unpack why most people lose health, not just time, in their final decade and how to reverse that trend with measurable steps. We trace his journey from a near-fatal crash at 17 to a career spanning plant science roots, healthcare leadership, and breakthroughs that blend targeted nutrition with mind-body mastery.
We get practical fast: CRP as a “burn rate” for your body, why keeping it below 0.5 changes everything, and how a complete nutrient strategy powers real mitochondrial energy instead of caffeine jitters. Bob explains epigenetic reprogramming—plant-derived, purified molecules that nudge gene sets for muscle, energy, NAD, and BDNF—plus why they can outperform complex peptide stacks at a fraction of the cost. He pairs these advances with essential building blocks: amino acids, enzymes, and minerals that allow your body to build what your genes request. The result? Faster strength gains, better motivation, and noticeable changes many feel within days.
We also go beyond biology to the beliefs that block action. You’ll hear how EFT tapping and havening calm the nervous system, reduce cravings, and resolve grief or fear by changing brain states in real time. From cartilage support that challenges “once it’s gone, it’s gone” to sustainable weight loss that protects muscle, this episode is a blueprint for adding strong, clear years—healthspan—to your life. If you’re ready to test, adjust, and prove it in your own bloodwork and daily energy, this conversation gives you the steps and the science.
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SPEAKER_03:Alright, everybody, another day, another dollar, another one of my favorite episodes of my favorite podcast, because I'm biased as heck. What if it did work? Got with me. Man, I can't wait to hear the story, Bob. Bob Gilpatrick, the longevity strategist, certified holistic nutritionist. The man's made over a thousand media appearances. Wow. When someone's out of options, there's no better person to call than Bob. Bob Gilpatrick, near fatal car crash. 17 ignited his obsession. You know, that's one of the keys to success, man. You have to be obsessed. You can't half-ass anything. With how bodies truly heal, not just to save himself, but to help heal others. Four decades later, Bob has guided tens of thousands towards restored health, boundless energy, and reverse biological age scores. A former healthcore CEO, healthcare CEO, turned certified holistic nutritionist, co-founder of Boomers Forever, Young, Bob blends cutting edge science with mind-body mastery from exclusive patent nutrition formulas to somatic therapies like EFT, havning, heart math, NLP, hypnosis, and advanced bioenergetic methods. And you got, man, Bob, I gotta say, man, these are like three and four syllable words. I only have a degree from LSU in journalism, man. Even my books, only one, two syllables. You're you're you're you're getting me out of my comfort zone. He's appeared on TV and podcasts over a thousand times. Make that a thousand and one, including ABC Evening News, and he's known for giving listeners usable stuff they can apply immediately. His origin story. Helping a 65-year-old friend ditch 11 meds. Man, the pharmaceutical rep probably hates you on that one. Cancel surgeries and de-age blood biomarkers by 53 years, sparked a company and a mission that's still transforming lives today. Bob's message is simple robust health and youthfulness are possible at any age if you address the hidden barriers most people overlook. How's it going, Bob?
SPEAKER_00:Great, thank you, Omar. Thanks for having me on your show. It's awesome.
SPEAKER_03:I I have to ask you something about the name because I I know you're not a boomer, because you're you're you're Generation X like myself. Are you Oklahoma fan, Oklahoma alum? Is that where you got the boomers forever?
SPEAKER_00:No, actually, uh I'm in the middle of the boomers.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so you're you're like in between. You're not really a boomer. No, I'm not a generation X.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but no, I'm fully in the middle of the boomer generation. So are you? The oldest boomers are 80 years old now, and I'm gonna be 70 on my next birthday. So the boomers are 60 to 80, and I'm 70.
SPEAKER_03:Take this with like from one straight man. I thought you were like in your late 50s, like early 60s, brother. So whatever. But that within itself speaks volumes, and that within itself shows that what you're selling works. Because it it's it's like that doctor when you go to the that primary doctor and he looks like you should be on the biggest loser, and he's like breathing heavily and he's sweating, and he's telling people they need to lose weight and they need to be more active. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, brother.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And and not that he's gonna give them a plan, he's gonna be like, Well, I need to hook up my my buddy, my pharmaceutical rep who took me golfing last week. So here, let me write you some unnecessary scripts. Not that that that ever happens, that never happens, people. We're just making things up. Yeah, great. You look great, man.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks. I feel really great. Yeah, it's fun to uh you know be in a category where you're you're older and you've gained some wisdom as you age, then you're not doing the stupid things you did when you were 20. And but you can still have the energy of a 20-year-old when you're 70 years old. And so you get to have the best of both worlds nowadays with the new science that we have, that's very possible for people to do this.
SPEAKER_03:Now, I have to ask, man, um this near-death experience, this changed your life. I mean, most people when when they had that come to Jesus moment, uh it's a turning point. Now, what were you at 17 before? Were you were you thinking you you you weren't thinking about helping others and being holistic and in the healing path, I'm assuming, correct?
SPEAKER_00:Well, not not that much. I was more focused on uh playing baseball and I wanted to be a professional baseball player and uh believed I was good enough to do that. And I did play some of my pro baseball after the accident I was in when I was 17, but I wasn't really thinking about much other than that. But I can tell you this, Omar, from a young age, I I was in a family of people that were into plant science. So my mother and my sister were really great at gathering healthful herbs and wild edibles. And my father had a PhD in plant science and was a professor at Cornell University. So I grew up working at Cornell by the time I was 16. But even when I was a little child, I remember listening to my father consulting to scientists around the world over a telephone that was one of those dial-up phones on the wall. And I used to sit and listen to him advising people in foreign countries about agriculture. So I was always interested in plant science. And uh then when I went to college, I studied health and psychology and education, and uh and so from the time I was pretty young, I was interested in the science of it because I was surrounded by you know by my family and the Cornell University Research Center. Now, did you graduate from Cornell? No, I graduated from Rutgers with my master's degree. I didn't go to Cornell, I didn't want to follow in my father's footsteps and do what he did. I I wanted to go into the healthcare field, and so I in my degree at Rutgers got me the licenses I needed to run health facilities. And so that's I did that for many years. I was a corporate CEO running um health facilities for the elderly, and I was a professor of aging and gerontology at Pace University back in the 1980s.
SPEAKER_03:So you you're like a forward thinker, because back then, I I mean, Bob, we were smoke, people are smoking cigarettes at McDonald's, having their quarter pounder. Yeah, they're smoking on planes. Yeah, they're smoking in the movie theater, just the aisle though, not the middle. The middle was the non-smoke. That was for the health conscientious. That that was wise, just like with the plane, with the little flimsy, you know, that that once once you opened the curtain, it it you you smelt like you were like at studio 54 or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I used to um I used to fly to Russia, and uh everybody on the plane smoked cigarettes. It was you were in a fog of smoke flying to Moscow, you know, from New York. And uh I did that on a number of occasions, and boy, that was that was some experience on those planes. Oh, I I can only imagine.
SPEAKER_03:And yeah, that that's awesome though, about you know, your father and Cornell. Uh yeah, the only I I stayed clear of Ivy Leagues, but I I think that was because of low test scores and um my my GPA led me to the the Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College there. Cool. That's great. So you did the agricultural college as well. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. Uh majored in journalism. So that but that led that that path led me here to to speak with you on on stuff and and the biological clock, and and what I like just reading my notes about you. Um I I have an addiction to um caffeine. And not just coffee. To me, coffee, I use it for a suppressant, but I'm one of those, well, I I need the workouts, I need a pre-workout, 200 milligrams at least, so I can feel it. And then it's like, well, it's not only just one because you might need like a Celsius, you know. I would say I drank like maybe two or three energy drinks a day. So when when I tell you I'm healthy on some aspects and some levels, and even though it it's like the guy that's like, yeah, man, I I I smoke only when I drink, you know. So I'm I'm a social smoker, so I'm not really a smoker. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So what oh overall, though, I I have to say, man, that that everything that you're doing, just because what you're doing is you're you give people uh the number one thing that can't be purchased, and that's health, that's time. Yeah, and you know, ever everybody thinks, you know, we all lie to ourselves and we're like, oh yeah, we're we're we're we're gonna be the next Betty White and we're gonna be the next, you know, George Burns, because you know, since we all know so many people that that that turn 100, much less, you know, yeah, uh I mean my grandfather's at 101, and I mean he he was healthy, but you know, from like 99 and a half to 101, it's like, yeah, I don't know if I want that lifestyle.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what they call your health span. How long can you live in a healthy state? And unfortunately, most people in the United States, the last 10 years of their life, they're not in a healthy state. And technically, like nine and a half years on average, people are uh are old and crumbly and frail during that last part of their life, and they just kind of drag themselves around from place to place, and you know, doctor to doctor. And it's we have the technology now where it's not necessary anymore for people to be like that. Um we have the technology to for people to keep their heart strong their whole life long, to have their circulation be really great so that they, you know, don't have a stroke. We have the ability to reduce people's inflammation by a factor of 10 so they don't get the diseases like heart disease and cancer and Alzheimer's that are related to inflammation. And we can track it now with blood biomarkers, or we can tell if our customers have high inflammation or even just average, and then we help them get that inflammation down by a factor of 10 times, and then they're in a position where they can restore themselves faster than they're burning themselves up. Because, you know, human beings are like a log in a fire, and a log is going to burn up and become smoke and ash, but it might take a long time or it might take a short time. If you have uh you got the flue wide open and you're hitting the bellows and you have a dried out piece of poplar, it's probably going to disappear in about a half an hour. But if you control the airflow and you've got some hickory, it it could burn for 10 hours because it's burning very slowly. And humans are like that. We want to be burning very, very slowly, almost imperceptibly. And we measure that with a test called C-reactive protein CRP, tells you how fast you're burning yourself up. And then with our interventions from our nutrition products, we'll get that number down. So the average person's a three on the scale, and our customers go to below 0.5, sometimes even below 0.1. And so it's it's a very good strategy for longevity and health space because you're going to live longer, but you're also going to be much healthier at an advanced age. And we have customers that are that came to us in their 80s and 90s, and they were very, very frail and homebound, and are now doing whatever they want to do. One lady went back to work on her farm after being cared for by nurses' aides and getting ready to put around hospice. It turned out she still had a lot of life left, but needed to have the right nutrition products and the right genetic stimulation as well, which we now have Omar, a new technology that's just a year old that is called epigenetic reprogramming. And um, essentially what that means is that as people age, they don't express the gene code for health and reduction of inflammation and building of muscle that we used to. Because as we get older, the signals that that tell our DNA to release the codes that we need for building proteins, they don't work as well anymore. And so we need a stronger stimulus that will tell our genes, hey, it's okay to release this code so the RNA can copy it and make muscle for us. And so we we have uh two separate products that are called epigenetic reprogrammers. They're the first two that were invented by Solva Labs. And Eric Kurtz at Solva Labs commissioned our company to be his business partner and distributor for his new inventions. And so we now have uh a pill that people can take that restores their ability to have energy and to build muscle and to have the neurotransmitter of motivation, which is called brain-derived nootropic factor, you can up-elevate all of those things to an age where as if you were 20 years old. So now you can take a very frail old woman or old man, and they can build muscle again as if they were 20, and they'll gain strength. And in some cases, people are actually stronger than they were when they were 20. And this is a like a miracle type inventions. One of the holy grails of anti-aging is this epigenetic reprogramming. And so people can now buy pills without a doctor's order. The product's called myatrol, and they can purchase that, and it helps to restore their body. And one of the really great things it does, Omar, is it helps people really get motivated to not be afraid to try things because you have a neurochemical that where you have to have enough of it once you have a thought that you think you might want to do something, and in order to actually take action, you have to have brain-derived nootropic factor. It helps to, you know, to build the transition bridge from your thought to your action. And so and we know the gene that is coded for making BDNF, and we now know how to activate it so you can have that youthful vigor and go get it, you know, attitude that you had when you were 18, 19 years old. You can restore that in very old people. And so it's it's really cool to watch that you know, that it's not just young people where hey, you need to get up and go, you need to try it. What if it did work? Right. We gotta you you gotta get your faith going and drop your fear. And it's it's you know, more of a motivational thing for for people that are younger, but a very, very old person, 90 years old, who's losing their strength and is on the way out, to be able to restore them, you you need to give them a boost of brain-derived nootropic factor. And then they will, they'll begin acting energetic and confident again. Um and we we have hundreds and hundreds of testimonials from elderly people that this has happened for.
SPEAKER_03:Now you say it's for elderly people, especially like the muscle building energy. You you take a pill, because usually, you know, when you a guy my age hears all that, it it almost sounded like a testosterone, uh TRT commercial that that you know they they they hit guys my age on on social media, YouTube, it doesn't matter. Exactly. It's like that. Can someone younger than an elderly person take all these and feel the effects?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they can, you know, it's about age 35, is when people start losing muscle. If if you don't start to elevate your nutrition intake and exercise harder, at age 35, you start to lose muscle. And by the time you're 50, you've lost about 20% of your muscle. And then it accelerates from there. You age faster as you get older. And so we tell people if you want to maintain your strength, you want to start young because you you don't want to be deteriorating for 15, 20 years and then get to be 55 years old and say, okay, now I'm gonna start taking better care of myself. You want to take care of yourself really well now. So that burn, that log in the fire, you know, analogy, it's burning very slow your whole life. And we don't know how long people are going to live Omar now. The epigenetic reprogramming has come about. We're not sure what really is going to be the maximum lifespan anymore. If you ask a lot of the top scientists from Harvard and other places, they will say that they believe we're living in the age of immortality, where people that will live for another five or ten years will will be able to live, you know, many hundreds of years. And um and One of the holy grails to get to there was epigenetic reprogramming, which has now been accomplished.
SPEAKER_03:Imagine social security and all that. Everybody in the extra five to seven years. I mean, we're gonna have to move the retirement age to like soon, like to 80. Eventually they'll have to move it to 100. Well, well, well, there you go, man. And and you know, where were you all these years, man? I'm only three years away from well, two and a half, who am I like to to 55. But I I believe it or not, I I think it was being vain is what got me look like um when I was looking at people around my age that I grew up with through social media that they look like they're with the crib keeper. And yeah, whether it was men or especially women, I was like, oh my gosh, I I I wanted to go out with you like a million years ago. Thank god I didn't. But but uh so all now, and all these things too, I'm assuming, because you know, the the way everybody talks about these peptides to do that, you know, that's the the end theme. You can take Surmorlin or you know testosterone therapy or NAD, and it's like, yeah, if if you're like Elon Musk, because you know nobody has like you know unlimited funds where you know 300, you know, you easily can go into thousands of dollars a month. Uh yes, that's true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and the reason is because of the strategy. So if you're going to use peptides, you need a different peptide for numerous different things.
SPEAKER_03:Or like literally everything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And and peptides do work, they do attach themselves uh to the protein sheath that's covering your DNA, and they do help activate genes. The technology that's used that's used by Solva Labs is totally different. What they were able to do, Omar, is they extracted individual molecules from plants and they tested them against these computer simulations of the human DNA, and they were able to identify which molecule would activate which gene to act younger. And so then they and then they knew it would activate sets of genes. And so they combined a number of different of these molecules together, and they were able then to change the solubility. So they normally were fat soluble, they changed them to water soluble, and then they purified it. So when you uh take um peptides or vitamin pills, that type of thing, if it's not purified, you you're dragging in all kinds of things, some toxins, other stuff you don't want. But it's very, very expensive and difficult to purify these molecules. So it's only that molecule. But Eric Kurtz at SOLVA has the technology to do that. And so you're getting a purified water-soluble molecule that can get right into the nucleus of your cell and zero in on a specific gene set and activate it. This is this is like a it's literally like a miracle, and so you don't need peptides to do that anymore. And as a result, you can you can activate all those genes for NAD plus, NADH, for um muscle building, energy, BDNF, with a with a pill that you can get for$80 for a whole month supply. Still way cheaper. Oh, it's oh, it's way, way cheaper. It's it you'd have to take$500 worth of peptides to accomplish that same thing. And so it's um it's really quite a revolutionary breakthrough. And we combine it with other things as well, because you know, in order to um build muscle, for example, you you also have to have the building blocks that are going to be called for by that genetic code. So you make proteins that are specific for building muscle, but in order to make them, you have to have amino acids and you have to have metabolic enzymes and you have to have minerals in order for that to occur. And so we give people powders to mix in water so we they make sure they have all of that. And one of the products that we have is called gladiator barley. And a scientist in northern Canada, uh, a number of years ago was able to sprout these ancient seeds that were literally the seed line that the gladiators used to build muscle and to have bones that were as hard as steel. And they were able to re-vivitize that barley and grow it in Canada, and they now grow it in many acres of it every year, and they harvest it and send it to us. And so people can get it in a powder form and mix it in water and drink it, and you're literally drinking the gladiator barley. But it's it's a lot stronger than what they had back then because of new technology. So they're able to stabilize all the nutrients that are there, including uh superoxide dismutase, which is the main antioxidant for your body. And back back in the day of the gladiators, that SOD would deteriorate, but the half-life was 10 minutes. So they weren't getting as much SOD as we can get today. And so when people take that gladiator barley, all of a sudden now they have all the amino acids they need. They have 4,000 metabolic enzymes, all there's 102 minerals in that gladiator barley. And when they take that with the genetic stimulant, the myotrol, that's when you get people in their 80s all of a sudden are able to get back up off the couch and go out and about and get their life back. And so we we're the distributor for the grower of that gladiator barley up in Canada. And we've been doing that for over 10 years. And uh the new inventions, the epigenetic reprogrammers, BioTroll came out a year ago, and right now, here at you know, at the end of 2025, the the next reprogrammer is coming out, and it's designed to do two things. One is rebuild cartilage. So people that have this bone-on bone and are going to need replacements. We now have a technology that regrows that cartilage. And then another molecule is added to it for blocking pain. Because there was a new discovery about pain a few years ago. A pharmaceutical company discovered a metabolic pathway that signals your the pain to register in your brain, and they figured out how to block it with a drug. It's going to be the replacement for opioids. But um, Eric Kurtz figured out which molecule from a plant extract that would work to do the same thing. And he put that into the product that's called collagene. And it helps you um produce agricane and hyaluronic acid and type 2 collagen, and you start making cartilage again like you were much younger, and then it also blocks your pain. And so, this is a new science, you know, of the age of immortality. This is uh what we're talking about tonight.
SPEAKER_03:Now, yeah, what's crazy is you're talking about regrowing cartilage, while a lot of people are under the assumption from their orthopedic surgeon or sports surgeon, guys that get paid to cut you open, is that once it's gone, it's gone, man. Uh you're you're gonna have to look at an artificial knee, an artificial hip, artificial uh and and they're doing it to younger and younger people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they are. And um, a lot of that's from excessive inflammation. But um, they'll find out, you know, as time goes by, but um, as the first shipment of collagen arrives at our distribution center, um, a lot of people are going to start to learn about it. Um right now there's only been beta tests with you know selective number of people. I was one of them because I had severely injured knee and a and a porn cartilage in my knee. So I was part of that beta test and got better. And a number of other people, we had a uh 90-year-old man in the study who was scheduled for a uh knee replacement, and he's not getting a knee replacement. And so it's this is uh if you listen to like David Sinclair, who's a very famous anti-aging scientist, right, from Harvard, he's always talking about epigenetic reprogramming. And um, even he doesn't know yet that myotrol and collagene are uh commercially available.
SPEAKER_02:Now with all these nutraceuticals supplements, how long until you notice the the patient, not the patient, but the the person taking them feel the effects.
SPEAKER_00:Like how do they feel um well I have um a lady who sent me a text just the other day, she's 56, and um I met her you know through the Board of Advisors Mastermind. And um she decided she wanted to try uh our products after hearing me give a presentation at that mastermind. And we sent her what she wanted. She took the Myotrol, the Gladiator Barley, and another product called Boomer Boost. She took all three of them and she texted me two days later and said, Is this all in my mind, or is it really possible to feel superhuman after only two days? And I texted her back. I said, You're not the only one that that's happened to. It normally takes about two weeks before people will notice this robust change. But a lot of people do notice the first day, the second day, the third day. And part of it is, Omar, that people are trying to make energy in their cells, right? From in their mitochondria. They're trying to get their Krebs cycle to respond and produce adenosine triphosphate, right? So they can have energy, but they don't have the building blocks to do it. They're their absorption of nutrients has dropped off as they age. They don't have the right nutrients, and so they're sluggish and kind of dragging themselves around. But as soon as you introduce uh, you know, a thousand different nutrients, which is what happens when when you take this combination, it's actually around 4,000. All the nutrients that you need to rev up your Krebs cycle to produce energy are there right away within 15 or 20 minutes after you take your first dose, your Krebs cycle changes. And so for some people, it's an instant uh it's an instant burst of energy, but it's real energy as opposed to an energy drink that's stimulating you. Um, or like Celsius is giving you some amino acids and a couple of other things, but not all the substrates that are needed to produce energy. And so with the new science, people start producing their own energy in a way that's much more robust than they were the day before they started taking the product. And um we're just lucky to be in the time when we are. You know, we've been studying nutrition science intensely with billions of dollars of research invested over many decades. And right now, here in the middle of the 2020s, 2025, 26, is when things are coming together, and that that age of immortality is going to begin to look very, very real. And uh you're going to see um people from you know many, much, much older age that are much more vibrant, and there's gonna be millions of people like that. And so, yeah, so you have all the issues that you were starting to bring up. What about this? What about that? What if all of a sudden people start to live to be 150? What's gonna happen to the society?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, you and I we're we're from the age of Dexatrim and Fenfen and all sorts of other amazing ways to lose either way. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, part of the problem, Omar, is with those types of products and and that includes the current weight loss products that people take that are very effective at helping them lose weight, they also lose muscle. And in some stuff, for sure. Yeah, they say the you know, 40% of the weight loss is you lost muscle. And so, in order to not have that happen, you you have to have highly advanced new products where you can build muscle even if you're taking these weight loss drugs. And we we do that for people.
SPEAKER_03:Well, well, also too, Bob. Um, that's that's even more expensive than than taking peptides. Yeah, if you're you're taking those those shots, right? Because not only do you lose muscle, but you're you're like way but you haven't learned there's no foundation. A person just took a shortcut. It's like like giving somebody that has piss poor money habits um five million dollars. That's that's literally what happens to lottery. Well, how did that guy lose 10 million? Well, he was a guy that lived uh not even paycheck to paycheck, was underwater, thought that you know, uh scratch off or you know, playing the lotto was his his meal ticket out and got it, and then you know, that's what happens. And the same thing with with all these weight loss products is I mean, yeah, you you it's not sustainable to keep on dumping 300, 400 bucks a month for shots, especially you you're not working out, you're not and it's funny because when people ask me how do you stay how to lose weight, you know, what would work out or whatever, and I'm like, I've I've got a Peloton machine, and I'm like, the the best thing to do, I'm not telling people buy it, buy the stock or anything, is just go park it right in front of the refrigerator, uh and screw it up. But people and and it's like I I I love your products because it's promoting too a lifestyle change. Because okay, you have the energy. Now, what are you gonna do with the energy? Now a lot of people when you have the right mindset, that person that's finally, oh, I I can finally go out and do a walk. That that person has the right mindset. Now, if it's a person that's like, oh my gosh, now I I can watch the final season of Stranger Things all in one day. Right, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we do obviously encourage people to exercise. There's many benefits of that, and um, we also know that people are have a lot of stress, and so whether it's money issues or family issues or whatever, and so we go into a lot of effort to uh help people with that. And first thing we do is we have staff that actually answer the phone, and one of them is a master's trained therapist, and when people know they can call us to figure out what's going on and and help them, then they can move beyond you know where they're stuck. And I'll just tell you a quick story. This is many years ago, probably eight years ago now, we were helping this one man with his health, and everything that we thought was going to help him wasn't working. And after about six months of trying to help him, I was talking to him on the phone one day, and I said to him, you know, let me ask you a question. What was it that happened to you five years ago? And there was a long pause, and through his tears, he told me that that's when his daughter had died. And um, he had never moved past it. He was in such a state of grief and depression that no matter what we did to try to help him, it wasn't helping. And so right there, I was I was walking in the alleyway behind our building to get some exercise while I was talking to him. And over the phone, I taught him how to do the emotional freedom technique, which some people also call tapping. And I'm I have videos out now that teach people how to do this technique, and it took about 45 minutes for me to get him to be able to do it, do it properly. His wife was there with him and she helped, and we put the uh speaker phone on, and lo and behold, um, you know, through calibrating, you know, we do this calibration on a scale of one to 10. How much grief are you in? How much is this bothering you? And then you do a session of EFT and you ask again, how does it feel now? How does it feel now? And we were able to, on that day, uh, I was able to get him past that grief. And where he, you know, this level 10 um emotional trauma was was able to be reduced down to a one. And now I don't have to teach people over the phone because we we we have videos that people can watch to learn how to do the emotional freedom technique, which helps with weight loss too. In fact, there's a whole book that was written by Dawson Church called Tapping for Weight Loss. And um, it it because a lot of um people's health habits, especially eating too many sweets and that kind of thing, it are emotional issues. They're avoidance strategies. And so we help people identify exactly what that issue is, and then we help them to mitigate it, whether it's from a trauma that happened when they were younger or a sequence of micro traumas. With that case, we teach them how to do what's called havening. Um, but if it's more from um, you know, other types of issues, just a Accumulated beliefs over time, it works better if they do tapping. And we'll encourage people to use both because most people have both of those over. They have traumatized episodes and they also have limiting beliefs or damaging beliefs.
SPEAKER_03:Now I've got to ask you this. You keep on saying tapping, and I it's a form of NLP. Is this what we're talking about?
SPEAKER_00:Like anchoring and no, it's not that. But we know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Like if I wanted to do uh a PR and but I I I hit myself here like every time. Yeah, no, that's an NLP strategy.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, that's uh that's um what you're talking about is an anchor using neurolinguistic programming. This is not that this is tapping on your fingertips, right? Okay, activate your meridians because you have the life force energy is coming from the tips of your toes and the tips of your fingers, and it's going all the way up into your brain. And those threads, those those microscopic threads of qi, those meridians are actually powering the beliefs in your brain. And when you tap, it activates that meridian system, and then you use um semantically packed um affirmation type um things that um include NLP um types of phrases. So, for example, if somebody had a limiting belief that was saying, well, you know, I I know that I'm never gonna be able to start my own business and you know be successful because um, you know, if I fail, you know, my family is just gonna ridicule me because they all work, you know, for somebody else. Right. Of course. It's a common thing. And so if somebody wanted to get over that, right, they can tap on their fingertips, right? You just tap on the side of your nail about five times on each finger. You know, you're activating that meridian system. And while you're doing that, you would say a phrase that would sound something like this. Um, even though up until now I thought I had to continue to believe that I'd be ridiculed if my business was not successful. I completely love and accept myself anyway. And I'm so grateful now that I realize this is my life. I'm very powerful. The kingdom of heaven is within me. I can try and start my own business, I can succeed, and I can feel a complete peace about the whole thing. And then this is at the end, you'll cross your hands over your heart and gently push in, take in a deep breath, and then drop your chin down to your chest while you breathe out and in a relaxing state. And that that's a very semantically packed protocol. You're using meridian therapy, you're using neurolinguistic programming, and you're also using bioenergetic therapy by act by pushing on your heart muscle after using the word peace or feeling peaceful. You'll actually generate oxytocin in your heart muscle that'll travel into your brain. Now there's the anchor right there, Omar. You're anchoring your new affirmation to the feeling of peace. And that feeling comes from oxytocin. It's your molecule of love and kindness and compassion. And you feel it for yourself. Why? Because in the middle of the phrase, you said, I completely love and acce myself. Right. And so each of the stages along the way of that type of affirmation is scientifically crafted to deliver an end result. And so people can get over things right away. All kinds of fears, fears of fear of heights, um, you know, claustrophobia, all kinds of things can be mitigated with tacking. Um, but uh the most effective is in reprogramming your limiting beliefs and moving from fear, you know, into uh faith, so to speak.
SPEAKER_03:Bob, where were you 30 something years ago, man? You would have saved me so many years and so much money in personal and business development and paying gurus.
SPEAKER_00:This works really well for business developers.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I I I I I I completely agree. That I wasn't that's why I I said you would you would have saved me a lot of a lot of time, a lot of money, and a heart, a lot of life experiences, man. I my limiting beliefs, I I I had uh a closet full of them, man. That was my cross to bear, you know, all my limiting beliefs, all my phobias. That that's where the the book came from, man. Was you know, I I yeah, I've that that's why when you're you're you're speaking my language uh about all that, I just I was smirking inside because it was like, man, I if if I would have only known but and and what's funny is because I I was getting ready before you started to say that was you know just think back then nobody had limiting beliefs, but that's that's a bullshit story because you know back then was 30 years ago, 40 years ago, and I was a teenager 40 years ago, and I had every limiting belief.
SPEAKER_00:So then we grew up with parents with limiting beliefs. Oh, yeah, let's folks about wow.
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's a generational thing, people don't understand until you break that bond, until you break that and say no, that's not that that story is not going to define me because everybody loves playing the victim. Everybody loves it's like the people, oh, I'm an alcoholic because you know, my family, my family are all alcoholics because it gives you an excuse because you have that story, that little, you know, let's play the uh Celine Dion and the Titanic, you know, soundtrack while while we we tell people why we are fuck-ups instead of just saying, hey, let me stop it now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Well, this is a very good, um, not only a pattern interrupt using that type of tapping, but also affirmations that begin to create embedded commands that are positive. And you can do the same thing using havening Omar, which is a technique instead of tapping, you know, rubbing your hands together like this, and rubbing your arms and maybe your face. And it was created by a medical doctor who was uh counseling alcoholics and drug addicts. And it was a voluntary program, and they would come for a couple days and then they would leave because the anxiety without their drugs and alcohol was too much. So he knew he needed to create something to help people with the traumas that they'd experienced that had gotten them to the state they were in. And so he he wrote a book about this called When the Past is Always Present. And um, it turns out that there's something magical when you rub your hands together and you use a phrase that brings up an issue that was traumatic. It literally alters the brain waves in your amygdala, which is kind of the seat of these types of emotions. And in and in your brain, you need many different things to occur at once. You have to have electromagnetism of a very specific wave, you have to have an electrical potential, you also have to have neurochemistry. It all has to come together with magnetism and all that, in order for people to have an experience. And if you can interrupt any one of those, you can interrupt others. And so it turns out that the neurochemistry of having a traumatic experience and a flashback, so to speak, it only occurs in the midst of beta waves in your amygdala. And when you do havenine, it alters those electromagnetic waves and makes them into delta waves. And in delta, the chemistry can't happen. And so, quite often when people do havenine, whatever that trauma was that's been holding them back is erased immediately and never arises again because you've trained your amygdala to go into delta when that memory is triggered, and they use it for all kinds of things, really, really powerful, powerful technique. And people go and get certified to be trainers in this. And Dr. Rudin and his brother are just magnificent angelic type beings that have dedicated their lives to helping people with this technique. But you can learn how to do it on my website, and um as you can learn to do tapping on my website, and you can also learn um you can also learn the the Heart Math Institute's technique called Inner Balance, and you can learn a really cool technique called nonviolent communication, which is also called compassionate communication. And uh Marshall Rosenberg created that technology, and I have a video on the website uh telling people what it is and how that how they can do it and what they should do when they get the book if they want to learn to do it. And so that's about half of what we do, Omar, is is helping people with these types of issues to break free, you know, from their fears, their limits, and to become, you know, somebody that they want to design. And we help people design their own ultimate beingness. And the ultimate goal is to help people, you know, create the paradise of your own choosing and then see it and feel it and begin to live it. And as you're living it, you're sharing it with others because you totally change the pheromones that are coming off your face when you do, you're changing the electromagnetic pulse that's coming off of your heart muscle. And when you are living your own chosen paradise, your own dream, everybody around you benefits. And you're playing a very special note that is your special note that you're playing in the orchestra of the universe. So you you want to play the most beautiful note that you can, and you do that by honoring yourself and becoming the greatest version of yourself, your own highest thoughts for yourself is who you become when you practice these techniques.
SPEAKER_03:Amen. But you know what, Bob? Myself in the audience, we feel like we're a teen, a teenage boy, brother. You keep on teasing us, you keep on teasing us. You know what you forgot, though? What somewhere is somewhere in heaven, Zig Ziggler is saying, You keep on talking about it, but you never mention what is the website, Bob.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's cool. It's a very easy one to remember. It's called Boomer Boost. B-O-O-M-E-R boost, and um, that's the name of one of our products. It has 66 different nutrients in a powder, so you don't have to take all these pills. So, boomerboost.com. You can get any of the anti-aging products. Of course, our phone number is on there, our 800 number. And we're in the eastern time zone, so we pick the phone up Monday to Friday, 9 to 5. You can talk to us. It's it's um people from right here. You know, I'm at 5401 Central Avenue in St. Petersburg right now. That's where I'm talking to.
SPEAKER_03:You're just up the street, Bob. I I I could visit you one of these days, man. I'm always in St. Pete. Um, no, I'm I'm I'm in Broward County, but you know, oh, okay. Yeah, you're just up Alligator Alley, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I go over there quite often. I have a lot of friends over there.
SPEAKER_03:And so I I mean, you're right there, man. Yeah, you're a boomer. Yeah, Florida's boomer, South Florida, yeah, yeah, West Coast. I mean, it's it's like we're we're filming cocoon here, man. Cocoon. That's right. We are you know what I I love it in many aspects, and and you know what? I a lot of young people think everybody's a boomer. That's I've I've I've been called that a few times, and I'm like, dude, get it right, man. I'm Jen X. I'm I'm I'm nowhere near being a boomer. And it's like, do you know what baby boomer? But then try trying to teach history to people that can that don't even can't even name like five state capitals, but let us know what our capital is.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. So Omar, so I don't forget, I wanted to give it to your listeners. So um, if if people decide they want to get one of our products, um if you give us a call, um, make sure you tell Stephanie or Lucy or Jim. By the way, Omar, one of the men that works for us on the phones is 90 years old. Heck yeah, man. Yeah. And so if you speak to those people, um just tell them, you know, that you saw me on Omar's show. And if you go online, when you get to the checkout booting promo code Omar, you'll get an extra 10% off.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Bob, here's my question about the 90-year-old. Is he doing it because he wants to? Oh, yeah, he loves to. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Mark, I called him the other day after hours. I was on my way home and I was like, oh, I forgot to talk to Jim about this one thing. I called him up. He's sitting at his computer writing a book about nutrition.
SPEAKER_03:Look at that. It's never you're never too old, man.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, heck. That's when he's not doing that. He's out hunting and fishing.
SPEAKER_03:You know, there are plenty plenty to go out there and do that, man, out in St. Pete. So Boomer Boost.com. And there's something for everybody. The the obsessed, the hyper-obsessed guy that doesn't want to, the vain guy like me that doesn't want to be old. This this is like this is like utopia, right? Um I'll be like that fat kid in Willy Wonka, chocolate fabric. Yeah, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00:This is and and we even help um young children too. Uh Omar, um our product, Boomer Booze, if you give it in very small amounts to hyperactive children, they they calm down right away.
SPEAKER_03:And really, yeah, yeah. And that's a problem, man. Uh it it it's it's so environment and and so much because think about if with everything, because yeah, okay, we we were young or close to being young at the same time. There wasn't this morbid obesity, nobody looked like that. Nobody had uh uh uh on some of these issues. There wasn't every kid didn't have ad, adh, all these different things. Everybody has inflammation up the wazoo. I mean, uh we we weren't eating friggin' everything uh that that was artificially made, you know. We're carbo loading on off of bullshit, and you know, you would think with with technology and the way things are we should have already been progressing, but that's why we had you you saw an issue and you saw a major problem, and now you are creating you are the solution, but you know what? And I I have to say this about uh this uh everything happens for a reason, Bob. Even that accident. If if you were never in that accident, if you weren't in that life altering one thing, you you could have been like you know, you could have played ball for three, four years, five years, whatever. But God and the universe wanted you to be in service, wanted you to give people life and a healthy life, because you know, we can Wade Boggs, Don Manley, all those people, yeah, they made us laugh. But there wasn't one ball player out there that ever gave us the gift of health.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. I'm with you, Omar. I think everybody has the hand of God kind of guiding and creating uh circumstances that help you lead to your ultimate life path. And uh I wouldn't change anything in my life looking back. I'd like being right where I am now, and many, many hundreds of things occurred during my life that led me to here. And uh I can't wait to see what happens for the next 70 years, you know what we'll all be able to create together.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you you want to know something crazy, Bob? You're whoever does customer service there is gonna be like, holy smokes, that that episode hasn't come out yet, but you know, we're getting orders with this 10 discount. That's amazing. And it's gonna be me. And and you know what, Bob, I love this so much. And my audience and people that you and I follow, our circle, they don't believe in New Year's resolutions because they don't work. Because if it was something that we truly needed to get done, if I was like, well, you know what, Bob, I'm like morbidly obese, but I'm gonna power eat my way for the next month and a half or whatever until January 1st, and then that's when shit gets real. That's the biggest misconception. But we might know somebody, or we might know people that have an artificial bullshit like January 1st. So this episode will be like right around there. Because hey, new year, new me. Not for not for our our target audience, but for people we might know people that might be into that. So, yeah, thank you for your time. Thank you for your energy. Thank you for giving us so much knowledge. And and I can see why you've been on a thousand over a thousand and one. And you you want you want to know something? I gotta say, just for that, I'm honored that you'd want to be you'd want to tape at night, having a conversation with me. But that shows you you're in service. You want to save people, you want to put people in that lifeboat. And thank you for that. Merry Christmas. Have an outstanding day every day. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you for your time, brother. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on.