Rainbowcops : Celleux qui changent la police de l'intérieur

Entre la police et la communauté LGBTQIA+, l'histoire s'est souvent écrite en confrontations. Aujourd’hui, les RainbowCops ont décidé de jeter des ponts là où d'autres dressent des barrières. Découvrez comment cette association s’est créée, ses missions mais surtout, comment elle constitue une aide précieuse pour nos communautés. 

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SPEAKER_02 0:06

Orkaz, une émission LGBT de l'association Telle quelle en collaboration avec Radio Campus.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Bonsoir et bienvenue dans l'émission Orkaz, une émission pour les communautés LGBTQEA, mais pas que. Avec ce soir pour animer l'émission, j'ai Melanie. Bonsoir. After now we have Massimo.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Bonsoir.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Bonsoir. Is that you could present?

SPEAKER_00 0:52

In 2015 I've had the choice to rejoin the SBL Rainbow Cops parce que I think it is important to defend the drops of LGBTQIA instead of the police, but the exterior.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

And in fact, it's what the Association Rainbow Cops?

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Rainbow Cops is an SBL of policiers in uniform or administrative who promote the diversity in the police and the exterior. And certain journey ports over, explicit what we do and how we can appear aid, it's not the public but also.

SPEAKER_02 2:42

When you said that the people want the grades, it was a resentment that they had, or because they were gay, you could not pass what grades because I'm not the police, but I don't know if it's a grad superior.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

No, it's not because it function in Belgium, but we have other grades: agent of police, inspector, inspector principal, commissaire, and commissaire division, this is really the top of top. No, it's not that they could accidentally more facilitating to this grad, but it was also a resentable. The fact that have a double view was that it was very complicated to concentrate with her career, for example. And the integration would be difficult also. Explain that it's okay to be policier and LGBT, that the diversity has all its place in the police because we are the guarantees of the law, but we are at the image of our society. And that it's not obvious.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Petit question you have a little bit of the different grades that exist in the police. We have explained a little bit what they were. Do you want to say what are the members of this association? Is there allies? Is there civil?

SPEAKER_00 3:57

In fact, there are policies operational, as we said, who are entertainers or the room in uniform. But we accept also in the SBL the policies or administrative police, but also. We have a mini enquête, we will demand a motivation to see if their motivation a lot with the value of the SBL, because we are not an association of renovation, we are an association revendicatrice of our truth.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

And it's also to evitate the curious or the curious to see what a police LGBT for know what it seems.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

But just know who is part of this ISBL. Now what's what your mission, the association?

SPEAKER_00 4:59

What's the other mission or essentially our mission initial is clearly to form and sensibility our colleagues to the thematic LGBTQIA to do all the outside in their minds after they are in the room or a commissariat, for example, to a person issued the community, that they are ready to manner the plus optimal and the plus respectual possible. For example, evidence the person transgenerated or intersex, or the gestures non-verbal that we have a judgment of value to the person we have, and exactly evidence a double victimization if the person is victim of a faith discriminant, for example.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

So we address principle to the police, it's not over the public.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

That's really one of the great axes. And the two axe is with the public, the public says that if they have a problem, they have to pass the port of commissariat, they can take contact with us for that we redirect version of policiers sensibilized to the cause, void référents in this matter in the commissariat of their quarters.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Alright, just you parts of person referents. Is that an obligation? Is that chaque commissariat has a person referent?

SPEAKER_00 6:48

There are 28 criteria protests in Belgique.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Is that for to the Belgique francophone or nearlandophone?

SPEAKER_00 7:08

We are an association national, for the party wallon, Bruxelloise, Nélandophone, and Germanophone. That's right, that's right. You have reason to replace it. But clearly our social is at Bruxelles, from a point of view practical, because it's the center of the Belgique.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Okay, so if a police that is a Vervier, for example, he will find appeal to you for sensibility.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

And out of Belgique.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

D'accord. Wow, we're interdictional. And just what actions have you realized on the Rainbow Cops?

SPEAKER_00 8:00

And we're actually present on the territory Bruxello after format the colleagues, the zone of police Brucelloise, because the LGBTQIA is in Bruxelles. And for now it's very important that the policies brush are continually formed on this thing. And we have this formation in partenariat with Genre Pluriel and Rainbow House, which is the Federation of Associations LGBTQA at Bruxelles. And we have actually the year organized a conference European for the policiers. We have other thematics for knowing how to board in a context of policies and how to do it in manner respectuality and on context of identity of genre and the orientation sexual.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

The relationship between the police and the public LGBT has been a beautiful place. I think not what they mean in Stonewall. Do you want to explain a little bit briefly where it's been a t, very complicated, historically?

SPEAKER_00 9:09

I'm not historian, but if we a regard with a regard exterior, I think the relationship between the population and the police, if it is complicated by moment, it's because we are the law and we are a little the system regalia of the Belgique. And as we are the rempart between the people and the population, if our politics have a political that is a fixed for a grand number, we are there. If there are manifestations, we are there to ensure that the zone neutral, for example, not envahis by the manifestants, and there are and it will create a certain tension. And the police does have it legal or a bit disputable, of the force, it creates a tension of office and it rests in the memoirs of people. If we have with SBL like we have this, the relation will disperse.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

And how do you create this?

SPEAKER_00 11:48

We have to create this on being present at different tribes of the people, because I think that the first thing is to learn the contact of the public concerned and to enter their plans to work on their points in the way possible, and marteling at that moment there is a problematic that is okay to the political, but also of the hierarchy policies, to say attention, that will not, we don't have to advance the things. For example, after our existence, we have in collaboration with the service diversity of the police federal to create a formulaire attention of transgeneration that they don't need the choice of colleagues who proceed to the fouilles if they are arrested in the code of a dossier judicial. We are present at a conference, like I did.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

It's cool in the formular, I don't know. It's sweaty. Okay, cool. Cool that the procedure is made in place, not the sanctions administrative.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

We said to evidence, I don't know. Like I said, when we rent a commissariat, we leave generally in an account where there are other people who attend who never are not for LGBT friendly. And once of that, we treat face a vitre and colleagues there, and we do explain between this vitre that is always very epaus and we understand very well. And we do a little bit more and exposure face to people that we don't have the background there. And there's this risk of double victimization that exists. And also, as we explained, there's this historic police LGBT that's been at beaufix. And this has passed in the Italy in now, a little bit of 40 years, there are a stigma that exists. And it's difficult to pass into this stigma. And it's a try of two years to recreate that confiance. And what I would say to these people who don't pass the port of commissariat, is to put contact with them. We will decide to redirect the more. I think if it's a person who is my zone of police, I will say to put in charge. Because I think that the plant is correctly in charge. But I don't want to go to all the points of the world. Exactly. But we have a contact book that is as great and we can redirect the bigger manner possible.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

I don't know if you made it or not, so it's a question that I put too. Make a pin with the drapeau arcade, that would add the people with the form because make a pin with the people who are formed, that would eventually, or make a sticker on the vitrine when we receive the depot, that would be an initiative that we have implemented and commenced too much, we have deputed 2013 it means.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Run que that will say that we evolved. People not as much as the society, but we evolve. For the pins, it's a little bit more complicated. Because the uniform is a piece official, and we represent the society, we do be equitable for all the people. At this moment, that would say that we do make the pins of all the organizations that exist, of all the movements that exist, and our uniform resemble, it is neutral. And that's a bit more complicated. For example, I put the example of the Pays. And for a service at part. And the people who are part of this service, it is written on their G Barbale Rosin Blau. And so when they ballot in route, the people of the community, if they see Rosin Blau, they know that there are their colleagues who are formed at that. And so they are facilitated to us. And why not in the year, if we decide to transform in service, and why not feel the same thing?

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Alright, I would just reveal because it's interesting. You have to rent with this vitre, etc. To compete to our auditors, the fact that we have in a certain way a coming out from a person that we know, above a person that we don't know how to be read, and so it's really the first one, in the possibility for a person who would disposing plants. It's really the thing. And in fact, it's for that we have contact for the people who would evidence to be diagnosed with one or the other colleagues.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

We don't refuse to not exposer your problem to a personal members of personality who move at the account. They will insist, and we will insist that you never explain in that accuracy your problematic and that you have to read by an inspector in an end private. But one of the fundamentals is that we don't refuse your plaintiff. And it's not to be inspector to say you don't have your planted. Because we are not competent. That we can tell in the world.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

If you don't know what I'm saying, I would demand at the account to learn to inspector, and the inspector will have the time to reach, or convocate for a rendezvous, and then I would deposit plainted, and once of what I did, in function of what I'm saying. Is that what you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 22:03

For example, in your cases, what you have to explain, it is an infraction penal. It's an injure, verbal. It is not sure penal, for example, injured verbal. But now we should see a niveau general police if there's a sanction communal that would be imputée if we arrive at identify the suspect, you can understand. And that's interesting, because an sanction administrative, which would be argent, pay, and it will make money on portafe. Alright, in particular, you can see pretty in charge correctly. But at this moment, you can turn, and that's also the role of police to say, to take the contacts like the Rainbow House, UNIA or IUFH if it's a very important thing. And UNIA is the centre Interfederal for the Legality Chance. Exactly. You sort of role when you start the commissariat, that you start with all the information that you permit to have a psychosocial when you are recognized enough victims. And we have campaigns of sensibilization and we are present at the job day and different events zonal and federal. A white time our colleagues regarding with grands. We don't know that we exist, but it's very good what we fought. I don't know that it has already been a long fluff tranquil during our creation. At the time there were certain reticences, but we have the appearance of our life. And the reactions of our colleagues are a practice, like for example the people of transgenre. It's a very problematic in the police. And we say to be able to explain that it's for priority the-gritty physical of the people trans. But we say, it's for this we have created this formular form, we are plenty to protect that we have that. It's for eviting problems with the control internal. And then we reverse the balance to explain that we are there to defend the LGBTQA, but also to defend, or to defend also, and we don't have the maximum out there to evitate any problems by the time if there's a plaint of service of control. And if we do that, we remember that our discourse is a little bit more perfect because we work with them, but we travail with them. And the new generation, we remember that we have quasiment plus explicit. We know that the terms LGBTQIA, after it was three slides on our PowerPoint to explicit acronym, but now it's like one slide, and it's just a discussion. And a while we appreciate these things, because the movement evolves with the time and we deliberate the language, and it's a little bit possible to learn certain things. And we know that these new generations you want to more convincing, more. If you're homophobic, you're homophobic. I'm found. But what I'm saying is that when you put your uniform, you are neutral and you respect the person who is. I am with the fact that you are homophobic and that you are at the police. For me, you've got your place at the police. Because for me you do be the respectual possible, but you put your uniform, respect the laws and respect the person. That's the same thing. It could also exist, in effect, but generally it's also on the tone of the humor that it's manifested, this prejudice. But in general, when we're the humor potage. Because it's not believed that the world of policy is a world rude where we have affair to the misery social and where we have affair to a casual very dramatic. And for dramatizing that, we have a lot of usage of the humor. And it's not messy, and it's just and not under the public. So if we do have a blagues, etc., it's entreal. And what's interesting, and that's a little bit with the time, is that if it deranges certain colleagues, we are and we rectify. And the colleagues don't hesitate to excuse if they have passed the bar of the humor. And so that I think that it's positive.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

I think it's positive, in the way that the people say it's a little bit in the black that you're going to do, that's class.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

I will get my coming out along my colleagues or a family, and also we have a few years where colleagues went from us and say that grass to Rainbow Cops, they have the courage to get their coming out in the equipping. And in the final, they wanted that the colleagues said, but they had because it was the colleagues in question who did get the pas version to say. And finally there had no problem in their equipping. There were also many cases, problems. We are there to take a little information of 20-30 minutes in your colleagues to explain what it's being gay, lesbian, trans at the police. Because we are different, but they are not competent as the rest of our colleagues. And it's that we should retire.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Is he the port, you amo, already 2012 and 2018, you know the plutonia passive.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

He said that we were less, he said we existed, he did the port d'entrée vers the academies, etc. He aided in certain things like the realization of tracts, etc. But later where the soutien has accelerated, it's a particular 2018 where there was a premier accord for aménage certain accès par rapport to certain of our activities to considérer enough de service au niveau de la police fédérale, des collègues de la police fédérale. Et depuis 2020 maintenant, on a un accord, un protocole d'accord écrit, signé par la ministre de l'Intérieur Verlinden à l'époque, la commission permanente de la police locale et le commissaire général de l'époque, qui clairement nous place en tant qu'acteur majeur dans la diversité au sein de la police intégrée. Et également nous donne un certain package from accès aux locaux de la police federale for nos reunions attention. On pourrait également, for example, have usage of certain vehicles of service if it's necessary for certain of our actions. And 80% of our activities, for example, for the police local accord of our chef de corps, consider 80% of our activities on heart of service. So we have proper and we have a subsidy structural in our ISBL. And two activities or no report. It's like if we had a two-in-made once of our initial. And we do by conviction. And now we have a protocol already, via the conjuncture budget actually, I compatibility all my complicated for our zone of police to divorce that new are all the zone of police in question.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

And also what's important to the association, the number of people in this association for our editorists.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Chacun fear the choice he does of his career and of his activities annexed. Too Rainbow Coffee is not created like that a beau matin, and it's the same association that exists in Europe. No, no. In fact, the association is a model European, the European LGBT Police Association, which is a couple of associations policiers or services policiers in the memory that we regroup 18 people who have an association, so a service who that matters. Après there's a réseau international that selected Proud to Be Your Friend. And that's pretty recent. It exists during 2016. Bien que there were associations international after that, but during 2016 there was created. This is at Austin. And we are at Austin.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Austin, Texas?

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Austin, Texas, in Italy, in effect. And we are at Austin for maintenance colleagues Americans in the pass they have actually, which is very difficult with Trump. We have the impression that it's a great return in area in the Italy, with all the drops they have acquired with the administration precedent. To find it and we are there for it to connect colleagues of Australia, Canada, the Italy, and Europe. In Asia, we don't have a lot of people. And it permitted to mutualize the bad practice. Imagine we have a tourist American who went to Belgique, who has been victim after his department in vacance, etc. D discriminant. And he went on the pride of Len Bocops and said, Ah, I've been victim at Washington in a faith homophobic. What's the first?

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Okay, so we have a carnet address, change the big practice. Exactly. And also.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

And we aimered creating a seminar or a tables rond where we rencontre the policiers and the gentleman, soit du milieu associatif ou même society civil LGBTQA, to discuter, create a pont, come on, and make en sorte that confiance that we create. Parce que finalement, these gens who won't move ensemble are demain the ambassadors to say voily in 2026 there's place at the discrimination. And that permettre to directly and leasible on all these platforms like the telephone, the tablet.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Okay, super. And also the dermal question for this one, how can we join? Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Contact arrobas.be a great mercy on the Massimo to be and inform the auditors about the lien possible that exists and the points that create between the community GBTQA and the police and to aid n'importe qui aurait besoin of a referent diversity, to make appeal to you. If you nose to contact, to pass the port, that's what we did. And if you rejoin the forces of the order, they are also the bienvenue on passing by you. You will give the information necessary.