Our Year In Review 2025 | Retrospect Ep.221

In this week’s episode we discussed everything that happened in 2025. We had a lot of great episodes this year, as well as some big world events that happened. This show has seen a lot of growth over this past year, and we are grateful to everyone who has tuned in this year. We hope that you are as excited as we are about the things to come in the new year!

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Retrospect podcast, 2025 review, breakthroughs, contradictions, technology, faith, money, health, trust, Donald Trump, election, drones, Mind Control, remote viewing, young people., Christian roots, separation of church and state, 10 Commandments, human rights, economic shift, real estate bubble, stock market, immigration issue, Islamification, Russia-Ukraine war, China-Taiwan conflict, AI collapse, political instability, global security, future predictions.
Jason  
We measure years with calendars, but we remember them in moments, a headline that stopped us mid scroll conversation that changed just how we saw something familiar, a story we didn't believe at first and then couldn't stop thinking about this year. Didn't ask for permission. It arrived loud in some places, quiet in others, and confusing almost everywhere else. It gave us breakthroughs wrapped in uncertainty, progress shadowed by backlash and enough contradictions to keep even the experts arguing. We were told what mattered, what didn't, what was settled science and what was suddenly up for debate again. Drones over New Jersey, the election of Donald Trump, prophecies, Mind Control, remote viewing. We covered a lot of different topics that shaped us in a way that made us look at things a little differently. So today we're stepping back not to relieve every moment, but to examine the ones that shaped our year beneath the surface, the events that change how we think about power, technology, faith, money, health and trust. So today, we reflect doing our best to sort the signal from the static, what we learned, what we missed, and what this year quietly revealed about where we're headed next.

Ian  
 Welcome to the retrospect podcast, how sure people come together from different ways. From different walks of life and discuss a topic from their generations perspective. My name is Ian, and as always, I'm joined by Jason. Hello, everyone. It's Stoney. Hello. How are y'all doing? Pretty good. How about you?

Stoney   
Breaking news. Breaking news here on the Retrospect podcast. About this, a new, dangerous virus variant has been identified, Bs 24/7 the transmission of BS 24/7 occurs mostly through news broadcasting. The virus settles between the ears and impairs rational thinking. Symptoms may include hyper vigilant cleansing, distrust of friends and neighbors and an overwhelming urge to give up basic human rights in exchange for the perception of safety. Actually, individuals with larger vacuums between the ears and lip tards are higher at risk. Please, stay safe. Scary.

Ian  
I wonder if there's gonna be a vaccine for that one

Stoney   
probably already have

Ian  
it well, first episode, the New Year.

Jason  
Yes, here we go. Yeah, well, you got to start it off. It's that time that we reflect a little bit over. Look forward, of course, absolutely, and see what the Be. Very interesting. What 2026 brings? I know my life will be different. I think it's gonna be a good year. It's gonna be a great year.

Stoney   
Gonna be a great year. You got some changes. I got a

Jason  
little bit, just a little one, just a little bit happening, you know, believe me, and never saw that coming, but it's here, so it'll be here.

Ian  
And can you imagine, only a few months, a couple months actually? Yeah, I think what

Jason  
Tracy reminds me all the time, I think, okay, seven weeks, Jason,

Stoney   
your life? Well, it's

Ian  
almost like she's excited or something,

Stoney   
because once you sign that piece of paper, it's all, yeah, that's okay. It's all fun and games till you sign the paper. I think he's ready,

Jason  
yeah, well, you know, at this point my life, it's like, you know, you find somebody that can getting help you get older, as you know, and help you get through life. And so it's going to be exciting and one, and we're gonna have a good time.

Ian  
I haven't heard the conclusion of the the gumbo this year. And it turned out, okay,

Jason  
oh yeah. It was it overall, okay. It was a hit. Yeah, most, most people eat it up. I had a couple people that are very sensitive, stomach wise, that, you know, a little seasoning was a little too much, and I thought we had kind of held back on the season. 

Stoney   
We didn't put any, really, anything in it.

Jason  
But, you know, that's everybody, yeah, when you're when you're cooking for, you know, a mixed group that that have those sensitivities, yeah, it's just kind of hard to, you know, what do you do? You know, you make it, you know, where no one really likes it, or right you do it, where you try and people like it, and just you guys kind of have to deal with, you know, the the other part So, but, yeah, it was good.

Stoney   
That's hard cooking for that many people. Hey, it always hard cooking for that many people. So we know what we're going. Do if we're asked to do it. Next time do they let us know we're going to do it.

Jason  
 Oh yes.

Ian  
No. News is good news. This

Jason  
is locked in for because, you know, freeze

Stoney   
anybody from maybe by next year we'll be doing video and what goes we can video it, right?

Ian  
That could be an episode The retrospect cooking show,

Stoney   
Jason and Stoney, gumbo, yearly gumbo, Christmas gumbo. I want, I

Ian  
want to get you guys matching aprons and Chef hats. Already have it. Oh, there you go. Already have it.

Jason  
It's gonna be fun. One step ahead of me, that's cool. We need to, like, you know, put the retrospect podcast on it. That would be fun.

Ian  
That will be awesome. How cool I'm glad to hear I was. I was anticipating hearing it back

Stoney   
from it, yeah, already made them. Since my memory is shit, I've already made. I've already printed out a copy of what we did nice, and then I've made the adjustments right on what we need to do next year.

Jason  
Sounds good to me. Yeah, we

Stoney   
have a lot frozen. Really, we had to split it in two pots too.

Ian  
Okay, okay, oh yeah, bigger and bigger. Hey, bigger.

Jason  
Yeah, it I've got some frozen. I mean, just, it's not a ton, but it's, you know, it's a shame that it's now this week it's cold. This is when you need to be eating gumbo, not last week, when it was, you know, 75 degrees, 80 degrees outside. But, but, yeah, so I have some frozen so if I want some this week, which I probably will take some out and have some. So I forgot to get some. Oh yeah, well, I can pull some out. Remember, we were talking

Stoney   
about I was gonna pull some out and eat it, but I forgot to get some.

Ian  
That's okay. You guys do anything good for Christmas? You have anything around in this neck of the woods, we had the flu ransacked us. So really, yeah, yeah, it was they said the

Jason  
flu is going around in Louisiana. It's, it's

Ian  
supposed to be a high rate. Yeah, it, it, it only happened for a couple days over the course of, like, the week or so. And it, it tore through. It was one of those situations where it was like, people at the church I attend were, you know, getting hit with it. I had some, some friends Maya got pretty badly hit. So really, yeah, did anybody get vaccinated? Flu shots? I don't, not, not beforehand. I'm just curious. I mean, I brought, I brought her to, like, a little, like, stat care sort of situation, and I think that they were anticipating it. So, like, she told them some symptoms, they walked in with a little cotton swab, oh yeah, rubbed her nose, and they were like, yep, fluids,

Jason  
yeah, it's growing. It's quite, it's quite extensive through the state right now.

Ian  
They didn't give her any kind of vaccine, but they gave her, like, some medicine to treat symptoms and stuff. And was like, rest, drink fluids, you know, same sort of stuff. So, but anyways, but so you can do so it kind of, it kind of like, postponed our Christmas plans with certain people, because we didn't want to get everything do all that. So we had a little close knit Christmas day so you

Jason  
didn't get, I think you mean, you were saying I did. It was last week feeling kind of bad, so maybe I think I was on the tail end of it, yeah, you probably came down with a variant that just probably, you just handled it, right?

Ian  
You gave it to I did. I think that's what happened. I think she was like,

Jason  
how, you know, fever was she running? I

Ian  
know, I think it was low hundreds. I think whenever she had a fever, but it only lasted for like a day or so. Okay, well, that's glad to hear that. Yeah, I think the worst part of it was, like a cough and some other stuff. Anyways, regardless,

Jason  
it full blown flu. Oh, yeah. I mean, a full blown flu will knock you down for at least a week, yeah. I mean, and

Ian  
again, I've heard people in my my circle, kind of like firsthand accounts of people being like, I've been out for a whole week.

Stoney   
Yeah, the only thing worse than getting the flu is getting the flu, having a summer flu. Oh, yeah, Somehow in the summer, which happens, yeah, happens a lot more than people think. I think that's the the only thing worse, yes, because now you're hot and miserable. At least during the wintertime you can throw 10 blankets on, yeah, you know, crack a window, yeah? But a summer flu that sounds

Ian  
just the thought of it sounds bad.

Jason  
Yeah, it's bad. But I'm, you know, had gotten a shot back in the earlier part of the month. Yeah, it's kind of late to get it, because normally you're supposed to get flu shots, usually around in October. Okay, expect,

Stoney   
for me, I don't see the benefit in the flu shot, because there's 2500 variants of the flu. When you get a flu shot, you're only going to get one for three to five of those variants, and magically, you're just going to get the right one.

Jason  
Well, I think, I think it's not so much that it's going to protect you from the flu. I think the point of the shot is to. Mitigate symptoms. If you do come with the flu,

Stoney   
see, they say that, and that's not what it's supposed to do. That's not part of it, but that, oh, that's what the covid vaccine was going to do. It's going to knock it down and mitigate the symptoms. No, it didn't do that. That's not what it does. And so if you don't get the right variant, it's not even going to help in those symptoms.

Jason  
Well, no, I mean, there's, there's nothing 100% there is no vaccine or anything that's 100% protects you. I think it it, as I said, I do it because of my age, and if I do come down with it, then hopefully I don't get as bad a case, as if I would otherwise. So I get it and I mean, whatever people want to do, you know, they can do what they want. I mean, I've taken flu vaccines for years, yeah. And so it's Well,

Ian  
now that the Christmas season is over with, I feel confident to say this without the potential of any kind of leaking of the surprise, but I had saved up a lot of money over the past few months, saving up for Maya's Christmas present, and she's been really wanting one of those iPad minis, like notebook one, right? And so I got her the purple one with the Folio Case that it comes with, and the new pencil she had like, a really old iPad a few generations back. She's an artist, and she loves to, like, sketch on the iPad or like, on, like, on the go a lot of times, either in like a sketchbook and things like that, or on that old iPad. And that was the one thing again, I had, like, a price budget range that I was giving for, like, my brothers, my mom and Maya's mom and all that stuff. But for her, I, like I had said in the previous episode, I kind of broke the budget for her a little bit on purpose, but I got that new iPad, and she, over the course of the past few days, has been like sketching up a storm and been doodling in all her stuff. And there's a lot of cool functions with the new pencil where you can, like, do certain gestures, and you can write certain things, and it would like type any Anyway, she's been having so much fun with it, and it's been, it's given me a lot of joy to see how happy it makes her so and then, of course, my brothers, who my brother, collects whiskey, I got him a nice whiskey. He was, he's been really enjoying so anyways, it was, it was really good Christmas all around and there's still some presents that I need to give to certain people when everything, all the symptoms die down. But that's what, that's what's been going on around here.

Jason  
So, well, yeah, guys, what y'all think 2025, is almost in the books.

Ian  
I started looking back at our episodes, and we had a wide gradient of topics that touched on a lot of stuff.

Jason  
You know, it was fun, kind of, going back and looking at some of those episodes, yeah? And just like, you know, that was pretty interesting.

Ian  
Some of them, I look back and I was like, I can't believe we did that this year. Yeah, it feels like it's been,

Jason  
I mean, I think, I think about, like, for example, like I talked about, in the intro, the drones over New Jersey. Remember the big talk of all these lights New Jersey. No one knew what the world they were, and that was the first episode of light. All of a sudden, the story just died. Yep, I don't know if they're still going on or not. I don't know. Maybe they're just not talking about them anymore. I don't know. You know, sort of like the Epstein files. Yeah, nothing to see there, guys.

Ian  
Well, have you seen this? It's all just black pages. Everything's ridiculous.

Stoney   
Everything's ridiculous. Y'all see that Hillary Clinton was asked in the interview how she compared the Epstein files to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Oh, and she responded, 'Close, but no cigar'.

Jason  
Okay, okay, Stoney. Stoney, okay, good old Monica Lewinsky, how can I ever forget about that? I remember when all that broke out at the time, you

Ian  
know, I was I was too young when that happened.

Jason  
I remember it. Stoney remembers it.

Stoney   
 i Did not have sex with that woman.

Jason  
Yes, that was a huge deal. I mean, it was just an address.

Stoney   
Why wouldn't you know, everybody's like, why would she save the dress? Yeah, I'm like, wow. But you know, the thing is, is he's threatened to name his ballroom the Monica Lewinsky ballroom. And I think that yes, okay, what a

Ian  
yeah, you're playing with fire

Stoney   
there. My man, I think it's funny as shit. I

Ian  
think so yeah. Anyways, yeah. And then, of course, like, we started off with like, I feel like in the first month of January, there was, like, so many, it was a lot of things that went on, like, a lot of, like, scary stuff right off the bat, because there was also, like, the attacks in New Orleans, yeah, the terrorist attack, yes, with the whole car being set on fire, and all that stuff in Las Vegas, that whole

Jason  
all the stories were going. You know, or just the internet was wild without amount of stories surrounding the car and the note left in the car and and all that, gee, what? And then also

Ian  
lost her California, all of California,

Jason  
yeah, the palisade, which is crazy. Matter of fact, I was listening to a deal today regarding, you know, the disaster at California right now, right? Just the amount of what they want to do for the billionaires, how much of my own tax they want to and it's just an absolute. I had no idea this is something I learned. I had no idea that Hollywood did not start there. No, it didn't. It started in New Jersey. I did not know that. That's something I learned today. And what happened was it had gotten from my understanding is why they ended up leaving New Jersey to go to Hollywood. Was because, at the time, Thomas Edison was basically controlling what sort of movies they can make interesting, yeah. And that was so what happens another state sweeten the pot and say, Hey, come all the way out to California, which is at that point, I mean, at the wild frontier, yeah, you know,

Stoney   
come out. It was cheaper. Then it was, everything was going to be cheaper. The labor was cheaper, everything.

Jason  
That's how it's so funny, how history works out. Can you imagine if it would have never, oh, yeah, how, how the California would have evolved differently, yeah, if Hollywood never showed up

Ian  
there when I was when I was getting into, into acting and like the 2000 teens, give or take. They had a big push towards, like, tax exemption stuff in New Orleans. And there was a long it was, like a it was a pretty good chunk of years where New Orleans was Hollywood. South is what they called it, yes, like, all the tax breaks and all the TV shows that are being made down there.

Jason  
And Georgia copied, yeah, Georgia copied our deal. Yeah, you know,

Ian  
and they're doing a better job than we are, because now we're no longer. There's nothing around here now.

Jason  
No, it's not, it's unfortunately that was during the general years they basically axed all those credits. And, you know, I mean,

Stoney   
just in Hollywood, the jobs have dropped from 142,000 to less than 100,000 jobs. And you know, you know, the entertainment engine, so to speak. Yeah, the restaurants are closing. Tourism has plunged 50% in Los Angeles, really, yes, that's big. That's huge, if you think about it. So while everything's going up and strikes and the streaming economy has taken over, you know? And now you've got the the gasoline, yep, December 31 Phillips 66 out of Los Angeles, completely closing their their refinery.

Ian  
Oh, wow, Martin, you mentioned that. Yeah. And last episode, I think

Stoney   
completely done. Valero is saying we're gonna lose, just by closing it, we're gonna lose $1.4 billion and we're willing to eat that to get out of California. Oh yeah, they're gonna start. They're going a couple of they're gonna start 14 more factories. Guess who else is leaving California completely, not only the headquarters and going, taking it to Austin, Texas, but even the brick and mortar. What's that In N Out Burger really? Yes, leaving California, that's big as well. What statement is that that's because In and Out Burger was California, yeah, yeah, it's just, she's done. The CEO, she said, we're done. I'm out. I'm pulling it done. Wow.

Jason  
I mean, you there comes to a point that just, you know, to pay for, you know, I hate to say it, but, you know, California is becoming basically a socialistic state, and to pay for all these things, they got a tax. The horrible

Stoney   
thing about that is it's predominantly a conservative state,

Jason  
yeah, but in the interior it is.

Stoney   
If you look at Los Angeles and San Francisco, where a lot of the people kind of live, is where they're making these rules, right? And everybody's paying for it. So think about this though, who else does that affect the gas prices? Arizona and Nevada get their gas from California. So with all of these gas prices going to go up, they're estimating between 10 and $14 gasoline by the end of next year, by the end of 2026 That's correct. That's going to affect Arizona and Nevada. They didn't vote on these things. They didn't vote on any of this looked hard stuff, but now they're going to be paying for it. Yeah, of course. You know. How it always works. And that something you, I

Ian  
think you've said that I'm all about, you know, well, sharing it faring, but who's, how are we gonna pay for it?

Jason  
Yeah, unfortunately, when, when Reagan granted amnesty to all that, all those illegals that showed that were in California back in the in the 70s that showed up. Unfortunately, that state changed politically to what pretty much they've become now, because that was a pretty conservative, you know, yeah, state for me, for many. I mean, look, I believe Dwight heights, with Howard, is from California, if I'm not mistaken,

Stoney   
we have a gaming friend who's from there, yeah, and he said, we're conservative here, but there's a few cities that

Jason  
just dominate. They dominate the state's politics, and that's the problem, because that's where all the population is. And so, you know, you have this argument, people versus land?

Stoney   
Well, it's concentrated population. There's more population outside, but the way they voted it, and what Gavin Newsom is trying to do and restructure things to gain five more votes is they've completely taken away the conservative vote.

Jason  
That's right, you have no voice whatsoever.

Stoney   
And so if you saw this the other day, the supreme court voted that you can no longer have districts based on race.

Jason  
So basically, that was the Louisiana case. Louisiana case was actually going to and I'm glad, because the truth of the matter is it is uncon you can't it's like that crazy district they drew in this state, this idea that somehow you've got to have, I mean, if you really want to be honest, yeah, if you really are going to try to deal with this issue on a racial basis, if that's the case, yeah, the black population in the United States, I believe the latest numbers like 13% so in all reality, they should

Stoney   
only have that 13%

Jason  
of the pie. Yeah, really, if you want to do that, to be logical, and to be fair, you know 12% here, you know the Hispanic population, they have this percent, the Asian popular they have that percent, and just do it that way. If that's you so fixated on this, that's what I'm saying. This is just nuts how they've done and I'm glad to finally, Supreme Court said we're done with this kind of stuff.

Stoney   
They've had a number of rulings over this last year that are really limiting the regulatory power a lot of these alphabets and things like that, the agencies there and redefining executive authority,

Jason  
right? Yeah, we are.

Stoney   
It has divisive as this Supreme Court is. They've come together on a number of things and said, even, like, suppressors, yeah, for weapons, they came through and said, you know, ATF, you got nothing. Shut up. The suppressor is part of a weapon, yeah? And I'm like, wow,

Jason  
to me, that just needs to be undone. Congress, they need, and of course, it'll never get done. You know, Congress can't really do anything. They really can't debt suppressors need to be removed from that 1934 act that actually put them as a regulated item. I mean, I understand at the time, right what was going on with that, just like Tommy Guns and all these things, but in all reality, in today's world, to be a suppressor, she you should go to a store and be able to buy it like anything else, yeah, right now, you know, it's not like still have to do the background unfortunately. Well, I mean to me, the background check should be anything more than just what a firearm? Oh yeah, if I pass a background Why do I need a separate background check for for a suppressor? I mean, to me, it's stupid. But yeah, you know, a lot of things that government does is stupid.

Ian  
So we also not to change the subject too hard. But again, I was looking at the very end of January. We talked about the inauguration of Donald Trump. And it's crazy that I didn't I forgot about this, but he, he got voted in and sworn in, you know, around this time last year. And it's crazy to think that it's been one year, because it feels like it's been so much longer, and there's also been a lot of stuff that he's done in this past year, good, bad or otherwise. But it's been, I can't believe it's been one year already, and a lot of stuff happened, and we talked about it. I think throughout this year a

Jason  
lot of well, yeah, I mean. Yes, I'm saying, I mean, it was a miracle that Donald Trump came back the way he did. Because, I mean, he was pretty much after the, you know, the election of Joe Biden. I mean, he very thought he was done. I mean, he was buried in lawsuits and this and that and everything else. And it just goes to show you that how, just a couple years, how things can change? Yeah, and I Same thing here, I tell people all the time. I mean, Republicans won a big sweeping in 2024 but you can't sit on your laurels, because all that does is mobilize the other side and it gets them all riled up and and right now they're, they're projecting Democrats take back the House, which, which, you know what? All that's going to mean. You're going to start the investing, the impeachment stuff all over and over, and that's all you're going to hear. And it's like, that's why nothing ever gets fixed. Yep, it just never gets fixed. So much in fighting, you know, that's crazy. And you know, this is what I'm saying to me. We all heard about what happened with with this, this breaking story that coming out of Minnesota now, with the with the fraud and everything, and it just shows you where our politicians are. This is what Tim waltz had to say about it when pressed upon what's your comment on what this guy has uncovered? Yeah, he says this is what happens when they scapegoat and this is what what they what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. That's his comment. Wow, doesn't about $3 billion dollars or whatever, of course, in waste, and, God knows, terrorist organizations that got money from all this that actually went out there and probably murdered people, right? But we're worried about stupid stuff.

Stoney   
I mean, that's and he's mad, because when he said, Boys need tampons, and Donald Trump called him a retard, and that's what he's mad about. Hello, boys need tampons. Are you kidding me? And you wonder, why? Yeah, what? What is it? How does this guy even look himself in the mirror and shave every day thinking he's doing a good job for the American people, right? $9 billion so far. I can't wait to see how much money they find out over the next four or five more months.

Ian  
Yeah, well, stay tuned, because I think next this, all this and more. Next week hopefully will be,

Jason  
yeah, there's gonna be a lot we're gonna talk about next week on this topic, because we it

Ian  
has and what else? What else may be uncovered in that time. In just one more week of investigations, who knows? But yeah, it's been, I'm

Jason  
gonna tell you another thing to be keeping an eye on right now is the uprising in Iran. I think the people over there have about had enough massively in the streets of the Islamic leadership in that country that interest absolutely ruined that country in the 70s. If you look at pictures of what that country looked like under Shah of Iran, yeah, was was a was, was was a absolutely beautiful country. It had wealth. It had people were were happy. Women were able to walk around like normal Western women, yeah, and, and it's just absolutely they've turned that thing into and I think finally, people, the younger people, yeah, are bad. They've had enough. They're tired of these, of the Hezbollah. And in all these groups and and all this mess. Because, you know, everybody, at the end of the day wants prosperity. They want to be able to go shopping. They want to be able to go skiing, or whatever the case, like everybody else in a western, developed country can do. They want that. The problem is these governments suppress this sort of natural, these natural wants, yeah, for lack of better term, you know, what how life should be, yeah. But I think

Stoney   
it's interesting, you said the young people, the, you know, it's young and old people in Iran doing this. But it's kind of got started because of the young people. And we found out in the last election how many young, young people voted for Donald Trump. Yeah. And one of the things that 2025, I'll remember mostly, is the quiet, re emergence of faith among young people and going not to these mega churches, okay? Because I'm totally against mega churches, and I'd like to do an episode on that one day, if we ever you know can do that, yeah, but it's more of the small groups, tradition, liturgy, and just questions of meaning, young. Pit young kids today are again starting to question the meaning of life, that real meaning of life, not oh, I want to be a Tiktok star more. Why am I here? Why am I really here? Because we've gotten so far away from why are we here and that I think 2025 and I hate to say that it started before the Charlie Kirk incident, but it kind of amplified with the murder and passing of Charlie Kirk, because a lot of people just kind of went, Wow, yeah. Well, and 2025, I'll remember the faith coming back, because we were men of faith, yeah, and we've talked about that over the episodes, you know, over the last four years. But 2025, people are looking again, and they're not looking at the mega church. They're looking at real faith, real questions about right?

Jason  
Well, there's definitely a Gen Z. It's definitely a conservative bent, yeah, especially with with young men, yeah. I mean, I mean, I hate to say it, but the increased, I think a lot of young young men are feeling very much stigmatized in this modern world. I look at here's a Gen Xer that saw the rise of this. And I will say this, it may offend some people. It may not,

Stoney   
because if it does, our email is get I

Jason  
have said, I have said all along, and it's permeated all of our institutions. We have become over feminized. In this country. We have, I

Ian  
have a running we have, I have a running theory. And because I've been in the church world, I've done some, it's full of it there when No, I'm saying is like, is I've done a lot of work with different denominations, the kind of work that I do, I've had, I've helped out a lot in the kind of live music space and that kind of stuff. And I can, I have noticed a trend that, if you, if your congregation has a pretty significant number of young worshiping men, I think your ministry is going to do a lot of it's going to grow a lot. It will. I think this is one of those things that it draws in a lot of other people, a lot of their families, a lot, but like, there's been, for some reason, there's always been,

Jason  
you're gonna see what I call, I coin the term a muscular Christianity needs to come back at one time in our society, that was the norm. Yeah, it somehow started to change in the late 70s into the 80s, and really started taking root into the 90s.

Stoney   
Well, it started in Hollywood. And I'm sorry this is I'm gonna get on a tangent here again, the attack on the American family, but it's demonic, and we'll talk all day long about toxic masculinity, of which toxic masculinity is actually the absence of masculinity, because nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room, elephant in the room. Anybody got to throw that out there, which is the devil's great lie, which is toxic feminism? Yeah, we don't want to talk about that, but will scream and holler all day long, because you want your man to be in feminine, and you want him to be sweet, and you want him to go shopping with you, and you want him to worry about all this other stuff until there's an enemy at the door, right, and then you want him to go back to being who he was. And you're surprised when there ain't no men like that anymore, yep, because now they've been convinced I don't need to be that guy. Okay, a guy who has a beard and a man bun, who can't change a tire, it should be required by law to shave that damn beard off. Okay, because you're not a man, right? If you can't do manly things, and I've learned this so hard being a stepfather now for five years, that if you are a man in a family, especially with children, if you aren't prepared to be an asshole, sometimes you don't belong in that role. Yeah, because the woman, when it's not toxic feminism is the nurturer, is the creator, is the thing that takes something and makes it better, but the man has to protect. The man has to deal with the bad things so that the wife can do what she needs to do in the house. Yep. And when we don't talk about the topic. Toxic feminism, because we, all we want to do is say toxic masculinity. There's a problem, but it starts in Hollywood, and now all the TV shows have sweet men. And if you watch a television show, the men are stupid. The men say things. They do stupid things. And now all of a sudden, look, I'm all for a strong one. I married a strong woman, right? Okay, I'm married. You know, of course, I realized that I'm actually smarter than my wife, and that's because I married her and she married me, so that just kind of proves I'm smarter than her. But you know what? There's nothing wrong with that, but it's the team and the place. Yeah, and people we've got. And I think the young kids today are looking back at that, yeah, and they're looking back at and there's a country song grandpa tell me about the good old days when people stayed and fell in love together, yeah. And I think kids are starting to look at that. They're looking they're getting tired of the changing the job every two years. They're getting tired of new relationships every year. What's going to last? Yeah, what's going to last? And I think kids are going, Wow, and it's amazing to watch these young kids today, and

Jason  
well, the divide is it in the statistics are pretty clear on this. This who is becoming more conservative, or young white men? Yeah, that's where the numbers are, because it's a there is an increasing divide between young women and young men and their political leanings. Young women have become increasingly more hard line, liberal in their in their and unfortunately, our society has produced this. It just have you have a crisis, and there's a lot of good resources on right now, and people talking about what is going on with men in this country. I'm telling you, I was watching a TV show last night, and I I looked at it and I went, This is what's wrong with everything in this, in the world now, you've taken something and it's just made it into an absolute Sham. I mean, it's just, it's the the subtle messaging of what they're sending is clear as day, right? Men are incompetent, they're stupid. They can't do anything, and to me, I will never, ever get out of my mind is watching all these little women beat up all these men, and I'm sitting there going, what world, what universe Do you live in? Yeah, the reality is, if things went to hell in a hand basket, you gonna want the masculine you gonna want? You gonna want? And I'm gonna tell you, society produces those kind of men when society needs those kind of men.

Stoney   
Oh, I'm sorry, we talked about it. What is Stoney saying? Hard Times create strong men. Strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men. And weak men create hard times. We are in the weak man era. Hey, Jason, I got something for you here. It's an English lesson. Yep, and you're getting married soon, yep, and I'd like you to participate in this and Ian, please feel free to tsunami, okay, what's silent? The tsunami, the T, the T is silent. Okay, great, honest. What's silent? The H, psychology, what's silent the p, right knife, what is silent? Okay, okay, great, wife. The husband is silent. Get ready. Buck around.

Jason  
Look, I have, this is my, you know, we've had these discussions, and I don't make any but you know, I don't apologize for how I feel. I will always say, if you're true, then the man should be the spiritual head of their household. The problem we have in today's world is you have a bunch of men who could, who have abdicated this role? Yeah, and the role is, by divine right, belongs to the man. You've got to embrace it and do it lead, lead. And unfortunately, lead gets tight, gets tied into doing. Dominate, and that's unfortunate. Where the when we have those kind of discussions like today, or, as you'd say this past weekend, yeah, does I know in church, the second reading was St Paul's letter, where it said, what wives be submissive to your husbands. Husbands love your wives, right? That's the relationship. Well, that's the way it's supposed to be

Stoney   
yes and no. And I'm going to disagree with you a little bit on that, because Paul was not writing a religion. Paul was not writing the Bible. Paul was addressing a single woman in a single church. He was writing a specific letter to a church in Corinth, okay? And he was telling a certain woman, and this is where translations and interpretations come out. He was addressing one woman, and he said, Be quiet woman. You don't need to be acting like that in your church. So the church, as a whole mega church, all this other stuff changed that translated it. Because if you go back to the original interpretation and look at the letter that he was writing, that's not what he meant. He was not telling women to be submissive. He was telling women that there is a role. There is a role, and it's not being submissive. Like, oh, What? What?

Jason  
I'm gonna push back on that a little bit. I think that there is definitely, if you can't tell me that in first century, second century, third century, Christian families, who is the head of the household, part of

Stoney   
that was designed because women weren't allowed to do this. They weren't allowed to read. They weren't allowed to actually read the original parts of the Bible to know they

Jason  
originally had a place. Really, was no Bible per se. But I'm what I'm the point proving my point, the point I'm trying to make is the biblical role of marriage. We go back to Genesis, Adam and Eve. Adam is created. Eve is created to what to be a help mate, to the man, the way a relationship supposed to work. And I think if at one time in our society, that's kind of how it worked, and we seem to be did just fine with it, it it actually built what we have today that worked. The problem is, as I said, Women, be submissive to your husbands. More importantly, the second part, husbands, yeah, love your wives. So right now it goes back. What does love mean? Just like, if you can, love means sacrifice. I am willing to lay my life down for you, right? That's what that means.

Ian  
But I think it's just like we said before, if you can't, if you can't see lead without thinking of obedience or of like, of like dominance, I think there's a there's the same sort of situation with like submit. I think you can take the English word and maybe think of it like he was saying, like a doting, like a, no, you can still be a strong woman.

Jason  
Well, the question is, once again, I go, What does a strong woman mean? That's what I'm saying. This is more of a modern concept. Our society was not built on that concept, right? The structure of our society was built upon the old model, yeah, of doing things. And I'm not saying to be cruel, that's what I'm saying. Husbands love your wives, right? That's that's the dynamic, that's the tension, of course, that exists the wife should want to submit to her husband because she knows her husband's got her back. It's like a mutual respect. It's a mutual respect. My job, to me, I look at him. Your job, is it? If you're raising a family, right? Your job as the husband I'm leading, your job is to help me run this business, so to speak, right? Because we want to make it work, right? We want to produce good kids. We want to be able to for them, to be able to leave the nest and go do their own thing, and to be productive citizens.

Ian  
One thing I thought was interesting that we did at the very beginning of this year, we had an episode and at the end of March called prophecy the Popes. Yeah, where we talked about the prophecy the Popes. And this is another one of those retrospect, crazy moments where we didn't, we didn't mean to predict the future, but lo and behold, May, the middle part of May, we did an episode on Pope Leo, because in it. And Lee, after we did the prophecy, the Pope's episode, the previous Pope had passed away, and we were like we

Jason  
didn't Pope Francis. And I remember the whole talk, they said this was going to be possibly the last pope, because they were they run out of run out of space on the on the and the in the St Peter's Basilica of of the Popes. And what's going to happen after Leo passes, right? I've been, I've been okay with him, yeah, I think he's done some some speaking of some good things,

Ian  
speaking of like the young people I recently saw and read something that there is this organization that has, like, a very large number of, I think, Catholic teens, some sort of like organization or group or something, and they reached out to the Pope saying, like, Hey, could you give us like a three to five minute video of you just kind of like addressing them, and just maybe some words of encouragement that you would say? And apparently, the pope had got back to them and was like, can we just do, like, a live thing, yeah, and I'll come and like, I'll come and talk. And not only did he, not only did he come and talk with him, he spent 45 minutes with them over this live call, addressing all these youth and so speaking of, like, young people and the faith and that kind of stuff, to see, like, the head of the church take almost an hour of his time away to kind of talk to them. I was like, hey, that's really,

Jason  
you know, I don't even want to think of what the pressures that person who occupies that spot, yeah, the leader of that organ is facing, the

Ian  
leader of that organization. Was like, we thought that it was generous to ask, like, Hey, could you just give us three or five minutes of your time to just address them? And the fact that he came back and gave us a whole hour, he was like, we were, we were honored to be given that. I was like, that's really cool to hear that. I I've heard a lot of good things about he's Leo,

Jason  
yeah, he's, I think he's going to be really good. You know, he's not going to say everything, because you're going to have the more conservative oriented Catholics. They're going to be critical if he doesn't come out and say certain thing. You have liberal, you know, liberal oriented Catholics are going to be, you know, angry

Stoney   
cooking a gumbo, yeah. And, you know what? There's no more. There's no person more judgmental than a Cajun finding out what you put in your gumbo. And it's kind of the same thing. I feel bad for like, you know, yeah, he's gonna piss somebody off.

Jason  
He's got, he's got a he's got, he's got a lot. Because I'm gonna tell you what I just saw the, you know, Cardinal Dolan turned in his resignation because he reached the age of mandatory retirement. Okay? And they the pope appointed a new a new Cardinal for New York.

Stoney   
Is there a set number of he was probably ready to get out of there with everything?

Jason  
Well, I mean, some people are saying, you know, he replaced him pretty quick. Because there's a lot of guys that get to the age 75 which is the mandatory age for retirement, that basically say, you know, he replaced him pretty fast now. I mean, of course, the American Catholic Church is facing huge issues right now, unfortunately, with the, you know, the aftermath of the clerical abuse issue, the resulting, you know, the financial fallout from that, the closing of parishes, trying to sell off buildings, sell off property to pay for these, you know, multi million dollar lawsuits. Now, I know, I know here in Louisiana, Governor Landry signed a bill that, in essence, opened up that window. And that's kind of what's dealing with the in the New Orleans archdiocese that he opened up the window for people who may have been or who were, you know, abused in some way to actually, you know, they've, in essence, did away with the statue of limitations. Oh, so you means, you know, after, as as time goes on, there's a certain point in time where it's just you can't do anything. You had an opportunity, yeah, but so what happened? He opened it for a brief moment to allow people way back who may to file to, in essence, say, you know, maybe they had settled for X amount of dollars back then. Well now what they're doing is suing again and getting additional money, and it's caused all kinds of issues. So there's a lot of challenges, unfortunately, brought on by a terrible mismanagement right of that whole problem. And they brought that on themselves in doing that. And unfortunately it costs a lot of moral, you know, moral clarity and moral authority and but you know. Be that as a May, I'm very encouraged by the number of young Gen Z men who seem to be really gravitating toward the Catholic Church, which I'm hoping that I'll be very curious to see as the years go by, how that what that does? Yeah, right now, I've even noticed that a lot of the younger priests that are coming out are very conservative. They're very conservative compared to the older ones. And I mean, they kind of wanting to bring Latin back and the whole kit and caboodle. I mean, it's so and I know that because there's a, there's a there's a priest and an adjacent parish to where I go to church who's very much like that, and some it's some people like it, and some people don't, right, so it's be very interesting to see how, you know, I see this shift in young men that in 2025 I mean, it's definitely a skew in that, in that favor, but, you know, it's concerning where men and women are in that age category when it comes to their political affiliations. And I don't know how this is going to get resolved, because it's it's become a very hostile dynamic between men and women, and as a lot of guys have just simply dropped out and have expressed no desire in getting married or dating, they're absolutely just dropped out of that deal, which then limits the pool of available men that these girls still claim to want. Oh yeah, they want these kind of men. But, you know, guys got to get off their butts and and kind of get with it, and kind of get back in the game. And, you know, be who you are, and do I think, I think

Ian  
with time, it'll, it'll probably happen. It's gonna,

Jason  
you know, the dynamics, is just, it's strange right now, but, you know, I don't know, over the I'm gonna run my mouth, and

Ian  
over the summer, we had a little stint of a bunch of really fun, mind altering and interesting projects we did. We had the Montauk Project. We had the gateway experience. We had DARPA. Oh, that DARPA was crazy. We had a we there was a whole bunch. There was a big stint right here in like, the summertime, where we, we hit a bunch of really fun, interesting. Also, MK Ultra, I can't forget that was, oh, yeah,

Jason  
those are those, those, like, there's like, two or three of those episodes we did back pretty much back to back. Yeah, that kind of went into some of that stuff that's been now released, yeah, now that the Freedom of Information Act and all that got declassified, so a lot of people having access to, yeah, that was interesting. I love researching those, those episodes. That was fun. I still think some of that, that research, is what's powering, yeah, AI now, of course,

Ian  
we also had some fun kind of behind the scenes stuff we did. We had a little play around with some sound effects, yeah, use it. Try some different trust, some fun stuff, which I think that was a we got some pretty good feedback on some of that. We had our 200 episodes. I just want to say we had our 200th episode this year in August, which is really fun to see. That was also a lot of fun as well. Had some really cool guests this year as well. And as we had mentioned, obviously, the situation with Charlie Kirk, which we talked about as well. And so

Jason  
to me, his assassination is probably the biggest story, because of the fallout of his death, and he was able to fill a void, a niche that I think was he was very effective at really communicating a message that was wrapped up in his Christianity. And I admired him for that, to be able to go out there and get into the into those hostile places and talk about God and Jesus and the role of the traditional once again, goes back to traditional family, Mama, daddy, kids, kind of how it used to be at one Time. And I've always, you know, we've talked about that is what voices are going to fill the void, yeah, now, and unfortunately, it's it. It has allowed now for room for people that are different and that are reaching a lot of young men. Today, which I get what some of these guys are saying. I understand their anger. I can get it. I can see there have been demonized since they've been 1716, years old, that you know, all white men are bad. And I get it. I you see it on TV, you see it in the movie, you see it in the news. It is this constant attack. And unfortunately, as with these things happen, there's an equal and opposite reaction that occurs. And I think that's where you're seeing some of these guys are saying, We've had enough well, and we're pushing back.

Stoney   
If you look in Canada for the there's commercials for the maid program, yeah, okay, and there's no ethnic people in those commercials. No, it's only white men and a few white women that are in these commercials. And there was a movie, and I

Jason  
can't remember, is that the ones where they're encouraging people to kill them, yes,

Stoney   
that's what the maid program is, medically assisted, assisted, you know. And I'm ready to do my turn. I'm going to blah, blah, blah, and they're but it's only, it's only white men and a few white women in it. There's no ethnic people at all, and you in those commercials, that's none. And that's what's so accurate. But here's what's funny about it. Is in Canada, okay, there is a law that says X amount. I don't know what that number is, percentage of people of immigrants and people of ethnic backgrounds must be it. You must hire them in your country, in your company. Okay, so why don't they have to have that in that commercial?

Jason  
Well, I think we all know.

Stoney   
I think we know why I'm actually saying it that, but

Jason  
see, that's what I'm saying. It's the it's this sort of attack of white men. We have,

Ian  
we have seen it and heard it in movies time and time again. But now it's but now it's happening in reality. Once you start to ostracize and make and blanket that everyone's an enemy, everyone's bad, you're bound to create a villain. I think that's exactly who the who these this person, I think I know who you're talking about is, is that they have now, whether they like it or not,

Jason  
they have created, they've created, they've created these people. They've created, they created the per

Ian  
they've created a person who is their figurehead, who is going to be their biggest enemy. Because, right, like you said, throughout his entire life, he's been that you've been he's been told he's the bad guy, and now he's living in because, okay, you want me to be, I'm gonna be the bad guy. And that's the Yeah. So it's, that's what I'm saying. Is like, now we're getting into that time of history now where it's like, you can, it's all fun and games, until someone

Jason  
we talked about, we had the episode on the machine predicting the end of the world. Remember that one? And what in that? In that 1973 experiment, yeah, they say the seeds of society's unraveling, you would begin to recognize it in the 2020s Yep, if you can't see our society is unraveling right now, then I don't know what to tell you, but there's something seriously wrong with just life right now. And I don't, I don't know what the result is, but I something is going to happen. Yeah, something's going to happen. And I, I'm afraid, because the I've always said the right pushes back from the actions of the left. That's why they often call people on the right side of the reactionaries, because they're reacting to what they perceive as the boundaries being pushed, pushed, pushed, pushed, and they eventually said, we're pushing back. And oftentimes that push back doesn't take a good form. It just doesn't and that's the sad part about it. It doesn't have to be that way, but I don't see our culture changing anytime soon, just what I put on television and watch because if I'm seeing that, it's like, this is nothing compared to what I mean. It's just, it's just, I just take my head and I turn the TV off. At times, it's just like, I don't even want to watch this stuff anymore. Yeah, it's not even entertainment, you know,

Stoney   
everything indoctrination. It's just another form of indoctrination. I don't watch TV. I mean, the TV today, there's a show out there Lucifer, yes, that tries to pin Lucifer Satan as well. He's an okay guy. He's just, you. He's got some issues, but genuine, he's an okay guy, bullshit. Okay, this is an indoctrination. They are trying to slow down, you know, and make you say, Well, if he's an okay guy, you know. And I'm like, why would that even Can you imagine, in the 40s, them trying to put a show about Satan out, or a radio show or something that paints him in an okay light

Jason  
hell, even in the 80s, I would have find that would have been quite beyond the pale. I mean, look, I remember the whole, you know, with Dungeons and Dragons. Remember that? Oh, it's devil worship, you know, and so that's what I'm saying. We've pushed the envelope now so far that there's just, there's nothing really left. So they got to keep pushing it even further to get a reaction. So I, I'm telling you, I mean, I was just shaking my head at watching some of these

Stoney   
shows. I can't watch TV.

Jason  
I end up watching old stuff because it's like, that's it's just like we

Ian  
mentioned, I had watched home alone for the first time in probably a handful of years. And I was like, Man, I forgot how like, how lovely this film is it has its moments where it's probably a bit cheeky, but, like, for the most part, it's got, like, a lot of religious cheeky was back. Well, right? Well, what I'm saying is, like, there's like, moments in it that's, like, they probably have a little bit of language here and there. That's probably, you know, oh, you know, they have some jokes in there that are probably a bit crash but, like, you know, but for the most part, like, there's some really great morals in it, and then there's a lot of religious themes in it that I was like, I forgot. I didn't realize how, how, how Christian underlying of that movie is, yes,

Jason  
look, I was watching at Christmas time. I was watching Tracy and I both were watching some of the old Christmas classics. Yeah, you know, Die Hard, Rudolph. Rudolph, the Red Nosed Reindeer. Santa Claus, is coming to town, the little figure stuff. But if I was listening to that, the Christian message was right there. They talk about Jesus and they talk about all these things. It's like they would never make that anymore. It's like a different world now than what it is.

Stoney   
Well, think about this. What was it? Two years ago, they canceled baby, it's cold outside. I remember, which is a classic movie, because it was kind of rapey. The number one song at the time, was wet ass pussy. I know you're right, yep, really, but we're gonna cancel that song. And this is the number one song on on the radio right now that you have to bleep out just to play it on the radio. How does this make sense? It doesn't. And that's and if we need to bleep that, I understand. But you know, come on, people,

Jason  
the reality is is, guys, it's plainly obvious now of what they're trying to do. And this, I'm telling you what you're going to see going into 2026, I'm starting to see it politically now, yeah, you're starting to see alliances between the LGBT community and Islam. Yeah, it's coming. Yep, you saw, I'm telling you, and by its heart, by its they, that is, hate each other. They hate Well, I don't know. I don't know if the if the other side. I think they're just, I think they're clueless. They're clueless. They are extremely clueless. They're useful. They're useful idiots as as they're as I've heard some defect defectors from that Islamic type. They said, We just use the we'll lie to them. We'll do whatever we have to do, of course, to get into power. And then after that,

Ian  
good luck. Take it away. Good

Jason  
luck, yep, but

Stoney   
yes, those will be the first people killed. It is,

Jason  
it is. And I'm telling us, I'm saying these other countries are trying to warn us about, you know, try to warn Europe you're letting these, these people come into your countries. And what did we say? We see Christmas celebrations being canceled, Christmas trees. Christmas trees being being being defaced. You see the the governor of London having a heart, having having a physical reaction during like a Christmas carol about singing like, yes, Christ our Savior is born him having, like, a fit, like him not being able to say it while he's like, at the podium, like some terrible stuff. This is like, this is what has this is Governor of London. This is what has happened,

Ian  
because he's surrounded, I know, I know what I'm saying is like London, like England, like the you know what I feel like, is concerned. That are to be one of the big Christian the big countries of the world, not anymore.

Jason  
The biggest threat, I'm telling you, the biggest threat is, is, is Islam right now? And I'm it is not to offend. And I you try to dance around these, these topics, but the reality is, this is what it is. Yeah. I mean, this is just what it is. I mean, you've seen what's going on in Nigeria. We had an episode on, guess what Trump is, is bomb, bombed a few of these strategic areas, you know, trying to stop these ISIS groups from just going into churches and in butchering people because they're Christians, right? I mean, it's just, it is a religion that unfortunately produces what it produces. They would look at it and go, they're just simply following the tenets of Islam. You know, when we say, you know, we sit back and we talk about these things, well, that that's just a radicalized element? No, that's just actually people who take the religion seriously. Yep, I hate to say it. I mean, at least I give them credit for actually practicing what

Stoney   
they have two types soldiers. They have the radical Muslims that will go bomb, kill, be dead, and everything else. But then you have the quiet soldier that goes into an area, takes over and does it quietly, does it in politics, does it in stealing $9 billion from a state and bankrupts the state, and then all of a sudden, it's too late to turn around, And America is at that cusp, because we're full of both types of their warriors, because they basically say you are either going to convert to Islam or we're going to kill you, or you can pay the the tax, yeah, oh, yeah, or you're going to die. Yeah. And the die part comes in twice, yeah, and most people don't realize that. And if you're a woman or gay lesbian, you need to be so far away from the Muslim community, yep, and you better hope and pray that there's a strong Christian man standing next to you, right? A real masculine man, when the

Jason  
muscular Christianity, it's got to be brought back. We have we have become too weak.

Stoney   
We've been dancing with the devil too long. We,

Jason  
like I said, we've become too over feminized. That's it.

Ian  
I'm starting a crusade. Let's go

Stoney   
saying for years and years, and I'm gonna say it here. And I don't remember who I heard it from, but I love this saying, if you are not face to face with the devil, meaning he's in your face causing you some shit, oh yeah, it's because you're walking with Him, yep. And we've been dancing with him too long in this country? Oh yeah, because we've gotten soft, because we've gotten complacent. We don't pray, we don't read the Bible and and look, I'm not going to say go to church, because I don't believe in these mega churches. I don't believe in, in, in what these churches represent today. This is so far away from the Bible, it's ridiculous, because tithing, tithing is not about making a glass house. Tithing was what you had. If you were a farmer, you gave the best wheat. If you raised goats, you gave your best goats, and you did that for the famine that was coming to take care of the poor people and everybody that needed help. Because if you need help today and you go to the church, what they gonna tell you, Oh, we'll pray for you. Well, we'll pray for you. Some of them, well, let's say 99.99% of them, or the pastor, has a $45 million jet and a $15 million home. That's not what tithing is for. It never has been that.

Ian  
And if you see that in a church, probably need to stay clear that. But there are some great churches that have wonderful community of people that are transparent with their money, and I think are great, and I hope having programs, they have that are, I attended church, some pretty great programs that can help people like that, that are less fortunate, that I can give of my money into a certain fund that can go to help those kind of people. So I guess those kind of things were like, just be, just be my wise, you know,

Jason  
like, I mean, as a Christian community, we're supposed to be helping people. That's, yeah, that's the nature of what it means to be a Christian. You know, I tell people all the time. I mean, what is it to be a Christian? I said, Well, just read the Beatitudes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's really what it is. And then, you know, it doesn't mean you let people. Get You don't mean you get walked all over, not what that means. But read the Beatitudes if you really want to know what Christianity is and what it was, it kind of it. Read that that is what it's all about. It really is. And people with, you know, you know, $45 million jets, and I, I think that's a small percentage, or the vast majority of churches in the I know in the United States are small and,

Stoney   
you know, I mean, well, that's not as few as you think it is. Well, I'm not

Jason  
saying it's not. It's we've

Stoney   
got, we've got five of them here in South Louisiana, and I'm talking just across I 10, right, okay, and you got how many? You know, it's not as not as few as you think.

Jason  
I think, I think those places, I think, appeal to a population that has become very disillusioned, and I think they offer an entertainment factor which kind of goes into the where we're at as a culture right now. I you know it look it's just what it is right now,

Stoney   
if really they become motivational speaker,

Jason  
yeah, exactly. I usually kind of equate them to, I remember many years ago I went to a couple of Zig Ziglar speeches. I kind of likened them to that they simply add Bible verses, of course, to it

Stoney   
well, you know, even the Catholic Church came, I forgot what Bishop it was came out and said when they're training new priest, you know what one of their weekly lessons is Jimmy Swaggart? Oh gosh, they will watch Jimmy Swaggart

Jason  
coming from the Catholic. Well, what they do is, there are a lot of in seminaries. Sure they're they employed a lot of times, non Catholics come in to teach you how to preach, right? I mean, there is a skill of that some people are better at it than others, the more charismatic you are. Those are the ones that get the big following. They get the big checks. Well, I mean, they get those checks because they get we

Ian  
can tell, we can tell that Stoney has had some, had some feelings and had some experiences that happened to him because, and that's okay, not to say that's not justified, but he has had his hurt, and I think that is just,

Stoney   
it's not a hurt. It is a, you know, being in an organization that I've been in since 1981 watching, learning, being part of one of these big churches and knowing things that most people don't know, and I would like to wise people right 100% but

Ian  
also know that some of those big churches I've also worked for as well, and I've gotten cut a really big check for doing my work there. So yes, there's a lot of money involved in places like that, but a lot of times that money also goes to artists and people that are hard working that mean, well, oh yeah, I've played music. Play music, or

Jason  
whatever the case may be, but

Stoney   
if that's your tie, then you should be playing that music as part of your tithe, not getting paid for it. If you're do that right.

Ian  
For me, I was not, I was not part of that congregation, and I was hired out as a specialized musician for that thing. So it was, there was a contract that was that went on, I understand, and I requested the money. So, like, that's a but, anyway, so that's and there's also, like, I think the same thing, like you just said with, like, there are more big mega churches than you imagine around here. I think there's also a lot more smaller churches that I think,

Jason  
I think, I think the age of the mega church is actually what is all perceptions? I think it's coming to an end. I really do. I think you're going to start to see, I think what you're seeing is a lot of young people are wanting to go back to a more conservative view of what religion used right

Stoney   
home groups are making a Yeah, I think, I think, I think the big churches, the big even experimented with, what were they called cell groups, or they experimented with that, trying to get that niche back into the church and it, but it all still came back down to the big church. But I think the home groups alone,

Jason  
I think a lot of those churches don't really emphasize dogma a lot.

Stoney   
They don't preach the cross anymore. Well, they

Jason  
don't, it's, it's more of a prosperity. It's more about your feelings. And I get all that because no one wants to be told they're doing something wrong, right? But you know,

Stoney   
you know, helping them?

Jason  
Yeah, exactly. Well, I would agree with that, that if you're not telling people what they need to hear, the hard stuff, what do you

Stoney   
need the old 1700s Bible thumping, you know, preachers that used to do the little circuit coming

Jason  
around me, you know you had, I think you know you had the. The wave of puritanism that came over to the United States, you had the rise of what I call that kind of puritanical type religion. I think, you know, that kind of dominated for a while, and then eventually people rebelled against it, because it was basically, I can do no good, which I that's where I think sometimes the danger in that is, is there's got to be a balance.

Stoney   
There doesn't have to be a balance. We can't do anything. You have to believe in Jesus and turn your life over to Him and go to heaven. There's absolutely no balance. We can't right. We need his help right to be preached.

Ian  
You're right, but I hear what you're saying, though there's

Jason  
like, scare people into doom and gloom is

Stoney   
never the problem. People aren't scared anymore, God fearing masculine men right back in the leadership.

Ian  
This is what he's saying. What he's saying is like, obviously, if you just preach that like hellfire and brimstone, right? No and no joy.

Stoney   
You were talking about going back to something that worked, that worked for decades and centuries of higher and brimstone, and then we got away from that. That wasn't where we are.

Ian  
It wasn't always fire and brimstone back then. No, there was a joy and love and peace of Christ that I think that was preached right

Jason  
until the church got involved. Well, if you want to go back far enough, I mean, look back in the in early Christianity, where you see the beginnings of what I call the monastic what they call the monastic movement, where people left the cities, they went off into the wilderness to get away from the world that that's kind of where this idea of a, you know, asceticism and kind of getting away from that. So the idea of, kind of leaving the mess behind and kind of going off, yeah, where I can be at peace, there's, there's, and I think that's what I'm starting to kind of pick up a little bit with some of these younger people. I want to return. I want to cut all the noise out. I want to get back to a more time where, yeah, it was just a different there was more, a little bit more structure to it, right? Of course. And you know, these are, this is right, this is wrong.

Ian  
The bat, I think the balance is like you are not worthy. Hell is eternal, and is eternal separation from God, and yet Jesus still came and died for you anyways, and love you, even regardless of

Stoney   
all that. Think of exactly, we keep talking about balance. Okay, the early churches met in hiding because they were persecuted, and they met in people's homes. In hiding. They met in small groups because they were being persecuted. And now what's happening, they're being killed in countries. They're being killed in the streets of America and what's coming back, meeting and hiding, meeting in small groups. There's your balance. We're going back to the beginning.

Jason  
Well, we're going to have to, because I'm telling you, we there. There has to be. The only thing that is going to bring our culture out of the mess that it's in right now. There's got to be a return to the Christian roots of what this country was founded upon. I got in this conversation with someone online regarding, you know, separation of church and state, and you can't, you know, the the whole posting of the 10 Commandments, and, yeah, it just amazes the amount of Christian people that, well, I don't want that on there. And I'm like, why don't you the 10 Commandments are one of the most foundational documents that literally gave rise to the things we call, you know, the Magna Carter, the Constitution, the United these were revolutionary documents. That is, what formed the society, eventually, what became Europe, and then eventually what became America. And to sit there and say, well, because if we allow that, we gotta allow this. No, you don't,

Stoney   
not true. See, because the separation of church and state came about in a very simple way, that the king cannot tell you what religion you have to follow. That is the only thing that separation of church and state means. It doesn't mean you can't post the 10 Commandments. It means that the ruling party can't force you to be Catholic, can't force you to be Protestant, can't force you to be whatever they make you want to make you do that is the separation of church and state, not that you can't do this, not that you can't do that, not that if you do this, you have to allow the satanists to have their little whatever thing going. That's not what it means. That's where the Supreme Court got it wrong. Yeah.

Jason  
Well, that's true. I've always said that it was the establishment of a national religion. But what a lot of people don't realize? That doesn't mean states couldn't do that, because if you look at some of the early state constitutions, there was a belief in the Christian god that was written into the what the federal government was a you couldn't have a federal right deal force in everybody, because the states were their own. In essence, they govern themselves. And if you want to have that, you have. I just still disagree with that. To me, the state should be able to do that.

Stoney   
So what did they come out? And they said they're going to post the 10 Commandments in Louisiana, and then all of a sudden, the courts start coming in, because somebody files a lawsuit against them. There was a law that said that they will be posted in the schools now, because if just in any normal person, just follow the 10 Commandments. Doesn't matter what religion you are, that's just a good guideline to follow,

Ian  
especially when five of them are towards other people, like how you are supposed to treat other people,

Jason  
it's these are the this is the document that basically starts calling people's actions out. Yeah, people don't realize in ancient times the concept of human rights and the rights of individual it didn't exist at that time.

Stoney   
The greatest mind boggling thing to me is that people don't realize the Constitution does not govern what the people do. The Constitution governs what the government can do. That's right. The government can't come in and tell you what religion you're going to be, right, but as long as you don't go out and hurt people and hurt children and do this and do that, do what you want. You want to be a Satanist. Go be a Satanist, but don't force somebody else to do it right?

Jason  
Tell me what's what do y'all think, guys, 2026 I hope. What do you think is you Nate, Jim, give me What do y'all think is going to be the big news story?

Stoney   
26 Skynet. I Okay, so I is going to be sky I

Ian  
don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what. Bubbles gonna burst. Okay? First, whether it be AI, whether it be tech, whether it be political, stuff like, I just feel like we're this year. We're at a point now where, like everything's inflating so much, and in a way, and I feel like something's gonna pop and see it's fine.

Stoney   
Can I throw i as i right before I was thinking real estate, or real estate, that is gonna I agree with

Ian  
you on that, or order the stock market, because in New York, or, who knows, or I don't know, what's gonna have stock

Stoney   
market leaving New York, maybe I heard they were talking about leaving New York.

Ian  
That's what I'm saying. Like, there's so many things now that are like, I feel like we're at this, probably right, this precipice where, like, I feel like I don't know what bubble is gonna burst first, like something's gonna pop, and it's gonna cause, like, a economic shift,

Stoney   
as you like say, I love that, because I agree 100% there's some bubble. Yeah, in 2026 that's gonna pop. I thought it was going to be real estate.

Ian  
You're that's another good one to add to the list of particular right?

Jason  
So you're saying you're one big new store, Woody, Woody.

Ian  
I think that's, I think that some, like, I said, whether it be aI having some sort of, like, shift or collapse, or some sort of, like, tech having an issue, right? Because, like, the cost of RAM right now is outrageous. It's like, I'm saying there's like, there's all these like things that I feel like are teetering on the edge. And I feel like the big news story of this coming year is one of, one of those things is going to pop, is going to collapse, whether it be aI collapsing, whether it be real estate collapsing or stock market? Yeah, something's going to shift. And I think it's going to cause, like, a an economic turn in some crazy way. We're going to be talking about it like, oh, here it went, and now we're gonna be talking about it for the next few months. Maybe I could be wrong, but that's, that's my suspicions. Because what do you think?

Jason  
I think the the Islam issue is going to be the biggest issue in 2026 I have a feeling there's probably going to be some attack regarding this. I do not know what this fallout of this Minnesota stuff that will be interesting to watch as time as we move into 2026 be very curious with the with Pam Bondi, what they do? What cash Patel, yes, they do with this stuff. That's going to tell me a lot. Yeah, if I don't see anything going on with that, something's up.

Stoney   
And I agree with you. I think it is going to be some type. Type of an attack that comes in. But I think that's even going to change the immigration and, yeah, the fallout of that, the fallout is going to be, we're just going to kick everybody out, and it's going to be hardcore, and it's going to be papers, and it's going to press our constitution to get some of these people out, because now you're going to have to go, Okay, I'm willing to give up some rights, right for the perception of safety to get these people out. And I think that's going to get pushed because this immigration thing is, is big, huge. And I agree with you on that. I think it's going to be some type of of attack, yeah, that's going to hurt and kill a lot of people. And then we're going to go, we have, we must do something. Because if New York can forget

Jason  
anyway, and don't, don't be surprised if they're looking at other cities. Oh, they are. Oh, that this, this will happen.

Stoney   
Houston has averted two or three things this year, because Houston is the next New York, yeah?

Jason  
And I just think right now, I mean, there's a huge, I mean, I'm just reading some article about this, you know, places in Texas that these just huge numbers of they're allowing in here, and it's like, when are you going to learn? Yeah, when are you going to learn that you cannot, you can't work with these people. I mean, just they're not here to work with not here. They're here to take over, and that's it. They don't want to work with you and work with you as long as you you

Ian  
go along with them. Just look at Europe.

Jason  
You know,

Stoney   
this immigration thing in Europe is huge because England, France is being overrun. Yep, yeah, countries like Poland who don't allow anybody in, oh yeah, are the only ones succeeding at anything right now, right? And we have some time. And I think the the Russian Ukraine war is going to get is already at a dangerous point, but I think we're getting into even a more dangerous point now, if it doesn't stop soon, yeah, well, I

Jason  
saw the Trump I think they've offered them a I saw the news alert pop on my phone today regarding I think Trump has offered Zelensky a 15 year security protection deal to end this conflict. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, there is, seem like there is no end to this, and it's got to stop, because Russians are not going to stop. No, they're not.

Stoney   
And you see, that's kind of stupid, because the Russian president actually likes Donald Trump, and if he wanted to solidify his position and the next eight years, work out a deal with Donald Trump. Oh yeah, Putin, just call Donald Trump up and say, hey, look, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna save face. Yeah, yep, and I'm gonna give you credit for it, which because what happened with the hostages, even though all the lip tards were saying, free the Israeli hostages, yeah, he got those hostages out, and all they did was, you know, yeah, but if Putin were to help him and just say, hey, look, I'm gonna give you the credit. I'm gonna say face and get out. Yeah, that would set the next 12 years. Well, one year, 11 years, right? Basically. And if he was smart and Putin, if you're listening

Jason  
to me, I think the United States missed a great opportunity at the end, when the wall, Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union was in complete disarray. If at that time, we could have brought Russia into the fold, help them show them that we're not your enemy, then we would have a valuable ally to counterbalance the Chinese threat. And that's my number two. You think China? I think China is going to be increasingly more of a problem. And I look, I've always said eventually we're going to end up on a war with China. Just my feeling, it's kind of my bones, I think, I think I agree to a

Stoney   
certain extent, but I think it'll be a last ditch effort for China, because their population is decreasing so much. Yeah, the young people that could actually fight have decreased so much. I think it'll be like a last ditch effort to gain something like Taiwan, or one last thing to control.

Jason  
Well, my question is, if they do try to attack Taiwan, I mean, you know, yeah, what we're gonna do? You know that to me, it's, it's they want Taiwan. But, I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, I mean, there's a few hot spots. I mean, I think that's an area of concern. I don't think in 2026 I look at that issue as little bit long, more of a long term. Right now, you have some hot spots in Venezuela, right? It's, it's kind of little nuts down there right now, but would be very interesting see how that, I think that will probably get resolved this coming year. I think whether Maduro stays or something happens, but I think definitely something's going to be, you know, something will be concluded in 2026 with that. So, yeah, those are kind of some of the big things. Yeah, I see what happened. But nothing is nothing is a more bigger problem right now than Islamification.

Ian  
I agree. Well, if you all at home want to let us know what you think your predictions for next year is, or let us know how your year has been so far, we would be more than willing to read your responses. We have an email address get offended together@gmail.com, which we have probably offended somebody today.

Stoney   
I'm sure I offended at least that's okay.

Ian  
And we also have comment sections on Spotify and on YouTube, where you can leave some more short form responses if you feel like doing that as well, be sure to like and subscribe whatever platform that you'd like to listen to us on, because I know we're on almost all of them, I think. And until next week, thank you so much for listening. Bye, bye,

Jason  
Goodbye everyone. God bless and happy. New Year.

Stoney   
This year didn't invent the chaos. It just pulled the curtains back. We finally saw who's in charge, which systems are out of gas, and where people run when the world stops making sense. And you know what the reveal is a gift, because once you see the truth, you can't unsee it. Clarity is the first step to courage. So let's take that into the new year, clear eyes, full hearts and a grip on what really matters, faith, family, community and the future worth rebuilding. Happy New Year, and thanks for joining us today. You're the best. Peace.