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The Attempted Break-In Of Jason Nichols | Retrospect Ep.236
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In this week’s episode we discussed the recent attempted break-in involving Jason Thomas Nichols, unpacking what’s known so far, the broader context, and the questions that remain. We also touch on the questions that remain unanswered and what developments listeners should keep an eye on as more information emerges.
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Ring camera, doorbell camera, surveillance grid, viral crime footage, psychological break, mental illness, police requests, delusional behavior, child-related charges, California laws, mental health institutions, public perception, law enforcement, privacy concerns, societal impact.Ian
Ian, welcome to the retrospect podcast, a show where people come together from different walks of life and discuss the topic from their generation's perspective. My name is Ian, and as always, I'm joined by Stoney,
Stoney
hello
Ian
and Jason,
Stoney
hello everyone.
Ian
And last week, Stoney had gave us a little bit of a fun like homework, surprise kind of situation. And as he was talking about it some more, I believe his vague description of it. I think I was like, I believe I've seen what you're talking about, but I definitely want to talk about it. And so here is Jason with what we're going to be talking about today. In this episode,
Jason
there's something about a doorbell camera that feels harmless, a little glowing ring, a polite chime, a quick glance at who's outside. But in 2026 that tiny lens has become one of the most powerful and unsettling witnesses in modern life, because sometimes it doesn't just capture packages. Sometimes captures people unraveling in real time on April 7 in Fairfield, California, a ring camera recorded what can only be described as a collision between reality and delusion. A man in a trench coat, flip flops and a graphic tee, walks up to a stranger's home, looks directly into the camera and declares himself a fictional wizard detective, Harry Dresden. Then it escalates. He demands entry. He asks, where's your daughter? Threatens violence. He kicks the door, and when the door doesn't give he finds another way in. This wasn't a movie scene. It wasn't scripted. It was real life, captured in 4k uploaded within hours and consumed by millions. The man was later identified as a 30 year old suspect facing multiple felony charges, burglary, assault, criminal threats after breaking into the home and being confronted by the homeowner in a physical altercation. This isn't just one bizarre incident, it's part of a much bigger shift over 1.7 million police requests for ring camera footage has been made globally in recent years, Amazon's ring network now spans millions of households, effectively creating a decentralized surveillance grid. Viral crime footage spreads faster than official police reports, often shaping public perception before facts are confirmed. What used to be eyewitness testimony is now algorithm driven reality. Here's where it gets uncomfortable. This wasn't just a crime. It looked like a psychological break playing out on a camera. The suspect wasn't hiding. He leaned into the lens, performed for it, and declared an identity that doesn't exist. And that raises a bigger question, are we watching crime, or are we watching untreated mental illness amplified by a world that records everything because the Internet didn't respond with concern first, it responded with views. So in a world where every doorstep is a stage, the question isn't just who's at your door, it's whether what you're seeing is real or just the beginning of something far stranger,
Ian
like I had said at the intro of this episode. I Stoney was really excited to talk to us about this situation, so and then, as he was described, he described it kind of vaguely, obviously, because he wanted to keep it a surprise. And he was like, I wanted to show you guys the video on the episode, or have you guys do it for homework beforehand. And as he was talking about it, I was like, I think I, I have a friend group, obviously, that, you know, like, we use discord for a lot of our communications, and it got posted there. And a lot of it was like, Can you believe this shit was
Stoney
episode on that same discord channel?
Ian
Then probably, okay, good, yeah, I have a little tab that I usually will share the podcast episodes with there. What a nut job it was. It was, for me, it was a little bit scary, because I was, like, the fact that, like, obviously, I don't know the greater story if, like, the people knew each other beforehand. So I didn't know if it was like a, you know, like a restraining order situation, or if it was like a friend of the family, or, you know, well, it was a stranger. That's even worse.
Jason
You know what I'm telling you? When I saw this video, yeah, I have to tell y'all that something very similar happened to me. Get out. Yes, get out at my own house. Do you have with a person coming to my door in the middle of the night, no, and doing some strange stuff. Yes, that's scary. So I know quite well how disconcerting this kind of event yes can be, yeah. And unfortunately, it's probably happening a lot. It's probably a lot of people. Or just not,
Ian
did you? Did you have any kind of surveillance or
Jason
ring Doug, ring doorbell? Okay, so that showed up that, like, at one, two o'clock in the morning, okay? And just, she was out of her mind. Hell, I mean, I was like, just, she'll go away eventually. They my neighbor, because she went to my neighbor's house also and did the same thing, and she was stumbling around. You could tell something was going on, but, yeah.
Stoney
Well, the funny thing about this video was, at first, everyone thought it was a hoax, okay? And the first day or two, this was a hoax somebody, or it was somebody doing a skit, yeah, yeah, or something. Well, because, again, a lot of times
Ian
on the internet, you know, right? Someone would do something like that. Brian would, someone would definitely dress up and say they're a fictional character and, you know, be like, Oh, look at me being crazy on the doorbell.
Stoney
But this is it's he's already been to court, they found out that he already has some things against him with juveniles. Oh gosh, and, and now the big thing was that obviously they thought it was a hoax. Now we found out subsequently that it's not. But now there's another video of him in the courtroom, and you have to watch his mannerisms, because he's smirking, he's smiling, and so his and this is delusional. All of this is delusional, obviously, but now what's going through his head, sitting in the courtroom, smirking, see, thinking he's going to get out of this? Yeah, is he a wizard now that he's going to just magically disappear or something? I don't know very much about this. Harry Dresden, I don't either, yeah, so I don't know what he's capable of, but this isn't his first some type of run in with a juvenile young lady, either. Okay? And then you have to look at the father in this video who's holding a big coal shovel. Yeah. And I'm like, it don't have no blood on it, yeah? Because, had we made it into my house, yes, that shovel would have been pounding him. I'd have been like, you know, how far can I hit this head?
Ian
Yeah, the friends of mine that I was referring to, obviously, you know, we live in the state of Louisiana, and we're in the south, so there's a couple of good old boys in the chat, as you can imagine, and and they're, you know, law abiding, gun toting citizens. And so, yeah, and so you can imagine that, like, a lot of times in, you know, in this area, Louisiana, Texas, you know, in the south, a lot of times people have will say, you know, if someone was to break into my house, I I prayed that they meet whatever Lord they're gonna they they serve, because it's gonna happen. You're gonna get blown away. And and that was, and again, the jokes that they were making was only in California. Whenever they learned that, it was in California, like only in California would someone be able to break into my house and still be alive to tell
Stoney
Miranda, you know, baby, what would you do? And I says, Well, baby, you don't understand there's, there's two ways to connect with God, and prayer is absolutely the best way, but kicking in my door is the faster way. Right, right? Yeah, it's that simple. I'm gonna get you there.
Jason
You're gonna go quick. And I can tell that this would be a very disconcerting situation, because my understanding was just the mother and the daughter was at home, that father was not at home at the time. And so I can only imagine that, how bad that would be, yeah, how bad that would be for, you know, this strange person banging on the Yeah, yeah, banging to the door, making hands and talking about she probably don't know who Harry Dresden is
Stoney
in California, where it's illegal to shoot somebody breaking into your house.
Jason
And just for our listeners out there, anybody didn't know who Harry Dresden and he's a fictional character created by the author, I believe is Jim Butcher. Is his name.
Stoney
I had never even heard of the character or the series of books. It's right kind of out of my scope of things,
Jason
there was a show, there was a show on the Sci Fi Channel. I really think it was back in the 90s, okay, that you could still pull up and probably watch them. But this person used to watch it back then, so familiar with with Harry Dresden, this was it a good show. It was a good series. It lasted. I don't know how many seasons of a few that it and then it faded out, but I mean, it was competing against a lot of the favorites at the time, like far escape and so. Like, that's
Ian
tough, yeah, and the 90s, there's a lot of good stuff. Yeah, there was a lot of good
Jason
stuff coming out on Sci Fi. So it was a very good show. I remember
Ian
watching it well, this person's real name is Jason Nichols. Is the he's going by this other altered ego, or this, you know, fictional character, but his real identity is something different. But, yeah, but again, I had the very same questions asked to me and the friend group of like, what would you do in a situation like this? What would you do? And for me, I think I had, I still stand by. I think what I had talked about, whenever I said, you know, off the record with you guys last week, was like, if I was home, I would still keep my door lock and not engage with the person at all, and, of course, get the call the police first and foremost.
Jason
Let's, let's get, I think he got in through a slide,
Ian
he kicked the door. And that's yeah, so I'm saying is like, I think I would still the second something like suspicious, like that is is happening. I was, I would, I would call the police first. I would try and get law enforcement out here and say there is someone trying to break into my house, so there is at least record that, like, if things escalate to where they're going to be going, I can at least cover my tracks a little bit to, like, I defended myself from a perpetrator breaking into my house,
Jason
sure, and with her being at home by herself with a small child, even as a place like California with the, you know, the kind of the politics with guns and that kind of stuff, I think she would sit very well if she ended up having to kill that, because that can easily be articulated to defend herself. Even, a, you know, it's would be a little harder for a man not to say that he's not justified. The reality
Stoney
understand is okay. He has in California and in countries like Canada, but namely in California, right? Okay? The victim now becomes Okay.
Jason
Becomes the perpetrator, yeah, okay.
Stoney
And now, because he's Harry Dresden, oh, you shot that poor mentally handicapped person. You're such a mean person. How could you do that? I'm sorry again, again.
Ian
That's where, like, the circumstances may be. If it was, like, that's again, that's where we're getting, like, some really interesting areas.
Stoney
Like, that's what we do. You're right. Your retrospect podcast.
Ian
Like, let's say, hypothetically, this was happening outside of my home, I think I would be a little bit more gracious, like, unless the person was carrying a weapon, then I would defend myself as needed, where I may try and, you know, but like, if it's happening in my home, and especially I don't have a wife and child, but if I had a wife and child in the home, then it's like, and especially, especially if this person is commanding me to hand over my daughter to him absolutely, and if I don't know who he is, absolutely not, not going to happen. And that's where, like, so
Jason
yeah, you know, just kind of really touches into the mental illness of what's going on in the country. And basically, one in five US adults experience some form of mental illness each year, and about 50% of that population receives no treatment at all.
Stoney
So well, you have to understand, over so many years, that they've closed down, and I looked this up, 96% of the mental health institutions across America
Jason
their early 80s, they defined
Stoney
they completely knocked it out. Now how many people, okay, start off not in a jail type situation, committing thing, doing things that don't really need necessarily to go to jail, right? But because they aren't getting the help that they need. And now you have all of these other things, all of the chemicals in our bodies, and all the the social media and everything else people aren't getting the help they need. How easy does it turn into something like this? Yeah, because this guy obviously has some diagnose things that need to be diagnosed of him, but they because we don't have the facilities for that anymore, he kind of slides through the cracks until somebody either gets hurt or something like this, and then whose fault is that?
Jason
Yeah, and they said, right now, they've about 14 to 15 million adults, which about five to 6% basically have severe, what they would call serious, like conditions like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and severe, major depression. And out of that group, 30 to 40% received no treatment in a given year. So that's about four to 6 million people with serious conditions that are just wandering around throughout the United States. I can only imagine. I don't know what it is in other countries, but where are the police?
Stoney
Okay, he's made violent threats. In this situation, he was focused on a child. Okay, that's the biggest Ding, ding, ding, ding, to me, he's focused on a child. He forced entry into an occupied home, okay, yeah. Then he even persisted in these beliefs when he was challenged, okay, there was an additional child related charge from a separate event two days before, really, two days. That's crazy, two days. So he goes into police custody or questioning by the police, and guess what? Two days later, he's doing something else. And this, like Ian said, so wonderfully, only in California. Well, because this is, this is to me, two days ago, yeah, he's had an incident with the child and the police, right? And he's doing something else violently. Two days later, yeah, at minimum, he should have in a 72 hour to seven day, yeah, something,
Ian
yeah, yeah. I know it was just a, I know it was just a. I mean, I don't know they're facing property, destroying property.
Jason
And I know a lot of people criticize the Reagan years for the, you know, the closing down the middle. I actually watched a podcast regarding what happened to our mental health industry in this country, and it's really a long history of where we're at today. And unfortunately, a lot of us said Reagan really caught a lot of blame for that. But the reality is, Reagan eventually just put the nail in the coffin. There was major problems with the with with how that was done, you know, back in the you know, or in the early times, they may can just simply grab you and take you. In the 40s or
Stoney
50s, a man could just say, my wife needs to go and she's gone. She had no choice in that, right? And there was abuses, okay? There was abuses. But that doesn't mean you tell you know, you, you bring in some regulation, you fix some situations, but they just completely 96%
Jason
Yeah, it was gone, right? It's just, unfortunately, is it just was not really well funded. Even back in the 60s, it wasn't really well funded. And eventually, what they wanted to do was to kind of do away with the model that had been in place. You know, back in the in the 20s, 30s, you know, you see pictures of of how, you know, people have been lobotomized for all intensive purposes until eventually they want to replace them with community centers, right? Yeah. And that just didn't plan. It just didn't work out. And, and I said, by the time you get to, you know, Reagan getting elected, he basically just said, you know, yeah, there's just no point in keeping up with this stuff, and it's just not working. So they just push it off to the states, and whether the states could afford them, they did them or they didn't. And and you know how that goes, right? States can't print money.
Stoney
What we haven't heard yet is other records that he's had, toxicology, medical workups, collateral history. I want to know what's going on with this guy, because now you know, were there any other prior episodes? We know there was one two days before, correct. Has there been any before that? I mean, if he's doing something every two days tells us something. So, yeah, we need to find, you know, come on, guys, let's give us
Jason
some I'm sure the guy had problems.
Stoney
You know, what's his sleep and substance abuse history? Is this guy on drugs? Is he doing things? It's just a complete, he needs a complete mental status exam right now. You know, they're worried, oh, we got a Senate, no, put his ass mental institution and have some real work done on him. Yeah? Because this guy, and that's one of the things they show about serial killers and serial rapist, they start progressing. And sometimes it starts happening more frequently, and, etc, etc. But we don't know what this guy, you know, what's, what is his thing? Yeah, and that, to me, those questions are what's driving me crazy about this. Because when you look at young people today, this screaming and hollering is all over the news, not only social media, but the news. What are the delusions of people thinking they're grandiose and better than that? And you know, now this guy added the Harry. Harry Dresden, yes, that's first name Dresden.
Jason
Harry Dresden,
Stoney
he's added this delusion to it, but he's acting just like so many. Videos that you see of these young people, you know, yeah, screaming and hollering. How far? How far away are they from this delusional behavior? You see these kids kicking cops, kicking people, throwing stuff in restaurants. This behavior is kind of normal with young people today, and this is a generational show, and I'm not trying to throw shade at anybody. I don't know, but, but, you know, the old people, we got our things too, you know. But still, this behavior is becoming paramount in the world, but necessarily America too.
Ian
Yeah. What do we know the how the guy knew? Did the guy? We don't, Jason knew the family at all? We don't. We don't
Stoney
think so. We don't know yet. But what I'm thinking is, as part of his delusion, did he live down the road? See, they're not telling you that. What if, in his delusion, he thought he was Harry Dresden, and this girl needed saving. Okay, well, I also mental, right?
Ian
The thing that was, the thing that that made me feel like there was some sort of, what do they call it in in law enforcement, premeditated is, is because the guy did have a daughter and so, like, I didn't know if that was just, like, a lucky guess, or was like, or is there some sort of relationship in the
Stoney
video, if you're looking, oh yeah, where's your daughter? No, yeah, it was very specific.
Ian
And all right, and that's what I was saying. It felt targeted.
Stoney
So he knew the guy had a
Ian
daughter, right? Or, like, I said,
Jason
could have been like, just try, you know, following, and could have seen him established a fixation, right? I mean, it's well known that there are certain mental illnesses that they fixate on a certain thing. Yeah, you know, whether it's a person or whatever the case may be, and it's that's what
Stoney
I'm saying. He could have had a delusion, you know, a delusional disorder with some type of a rescue based theme in his head. I mean, we don't know where this guy is. I mean, that's a, you know, that's not a great possibility, but it falls into the spectrum of some of the things that it could be. I'm leaning more toward a substance induced psychotic, you know, situation disorder or something. But we don't know until we get that toxicology report back. Was he drinking? Was he doing? How many? What did they say since they have started recording school shootings, every shooting the kid has been on some type of, oh yeah, antidepressant. Antidepressant? Was this guy on it? He's of the age he fits right into it.
Jason
How old was he 30
Stoney
something? Yeah,
Ian
that's what it says
Stoney
right here, yeah. So, I mean,
Ian
you know, way, right? And that's crazy to think about. For me, he's like, thinking about someone like myself doing that, it's like, it's hard to believe, but at the same time, when I think about it, like you said before, for dealing with someone who has a skewed perception on reality, or, as Stoney has said, substance situations could also be in there. I'm not
Stoney
saying I'm through my head. I start, you know, being in protective services for 20 years, these things come in here, right? And so you start, I don't want to rule anything out, right? Yeah, you have to look at it all and then, like with this guy sitting in the courtroom smirking, is he a narcissist? Do you add that there's nine traits to narcissism, and you have to have five of them to be declared or diagnosed with narcissism, right? You're sitting in a courtroom where you just broke into somebody's house asking about their daughter, their underage daughter, two days
Ian
after another. Thank you for
Stoney
adding that there. And yeah, you're smirking. What you thinking you gonna get out of this? Or you're above the law, or what?
Ian
Yeah, I don't know. Man, that's crazy.
Jason
Yeah? What be very curious, what people capture on their ring cameras? Oh yeah.
Stoney
Well, the police have said they they've tried to start this thing where the police can sign on to your ring cameras when they're looking for people driving. There's, there's a whole website that you can join that allows the police and people to use your ring camera. And I'm like, No, yeah, yeah.
Jason
I mean, you can, you can give access to law enforcement, right? Yeah. I mean to me, if it solves a crime or it helps in identifying a suspect. But there's a lot of people are concerned about the the rise of ring cameras and basically the, oh yeah, everyone's talking about surveillance network now that who's the author.
Stoney
But you see, here's the Orwell. We're in George
Ian
Orwell, 1984 where
Stoney
our wonderful governor is. Trying to pass a law after they've already passed three laws that make it, number one, harder to prosecute and investigate politicians. They've already passed a law that they're making it easier for the government to do business with family members, and now Louisiana is one of the few states that only one person needs to know that a recording is happening, and now they're trying to pass a law that says you cannot record someone else without their permission, or at least letting them know that you're recording because they're making it harder for whistleblowers in Louisiana. Now, okay to record corruption. Interesting, but, oh no, please sign on to the ring camera thing so we can see what's going on, right? You know,
Jason
I don't know. I mean, it's, it's there.
Stoney
That's another topic. I'd like to get into some of the laws that they're passing in Louisiana for where we're supposed to be more transparent, yeah, where they're shutting down the transparency for our politicians.
Ian
I know in the past, we've, like, we've read a book or two, I think, for a show, and I just jokingly talked about George Orwell's 1984 I've never great. I've never actually read it, and it's already I've read, I've read. I've read, I think, like, the first, like quarter or half of it, I think once upon a time, because I was borrowing it from a friend, and I've, I'm not saying we should, but maybe, you know, if we could probably read it for the show, and because I think that'd be fun, I think it also, it plays kind of interesting. Maybe, you know, it's an option.
Jason
Georgia brings back a lot of memories there. Yeah, 1980 a lot of people would say that exactly, we're heading in that direction. And I would venture to say it's inevitable that we will become a surveillance state.
Stoney
I We're already there. I don't even say there.
Jason
I think, I think just the of how certain people that really kind of blow the whistle on this stuff, how they're treated. I mean, just look at Snowden. You look at Assange, just terrible. I mean, it's yeah, it's it's Yeah. I mean it's, we're heading in that direction.
Stoney
Well, you have to think about this? China, which was at one time, the largest manufacturer of iPhones, their leaders and their military officers were not allowed to own an iPhone, right? Okay, now, Europe has just passed a law. I don't know if y'all have seen this, but Europe as a group has passed a law that says that all new cell phones must now have a removable battery. Interesting, they're saying they're calling it for this environment, but the reason that they did it to where you can't take the battery out of your phone is because it never actually goes off. You may think you turn your phone off, it's still running and listening in the background. If it's off and you're driving somewhere, it still knows where you are, but Europe has said, collectively, you have to be able to produce a phone that I can take the battery out of it and, number one, replace it, so they're ending the planned obsolescence. Remember the little fiasco with Apple doing their little battery tick on an update to where the battery all of a sudden loses 60% of its life, magically and so. But Europe is waking up to this state of, you know, everybody.
Jason
So the European Union, yes,
Stoney
the European Union passed a
Jason
resolution or something,
Stoney
which I think is interesting. I mean, this is like in the last couple of days, yeah. And when you're talking about the Orwell state and things like that, we're there, yeah, we're we are
Jason
literally there. Yeah, that might, that might be a good, a good episode. Are we a surveillance day?
Stoney
Yeah, I would like that.
Jason
Yeah. That might be a good episode to talk about, because there's a lot of things let us know. Yeah, that might be a good all our fans out there that, if you'd like, you would like us to talk about that we can definitely put a show together for that. I agree. So I know I've reached out to a friend of our show. Okay, he used to be on the show few times. Okay, I saw an article that he pushed out from his sub stack. Oh, I knew you talking about now, yeah, regarding the mRNA and MK Ultra. Oh, get out. Yeah, believe it or not, yeah. I was shocked. I was like, Look at this. Okay, so I just text him. Just. If he would be interested in possibly coming on and talking about some of the latest stuff, because it's been a while since we've had him correct. But Did y'all it shows that his bail, talking about this guy, yeah, yeah, his bail was set at 35,000 that's it.
Stoney
I think it ought to be automatic. 10 million, if a child is involved, period. Well, yes, for the child bingo. Child's involved $10 million carry your ass to jail and put him in a place where the prisoners are going to say you did what to a child. You wanted to do what to a child. There was a time in Angola, here in Louisiana that basically, if you were a child molester, when you went into the prison, they basically gave you 30 days to conduct your business. Say goodbye to your mom. Say goodbye to whatever you needed to because you was gonna die, really, because their thought process was, we're not gonna let you out to harm another child, because it could be my daughter next time I see now, they've kind of had to do some things where it's a little harder to do that now, but back in the day, yeah,
Jason
be a child, what was the gentleman that was basically accused of raping a daughter and having a stepdaughter, I think, or something like that. But what's his name? He used to be on the sons of guns.
Stoney
Oh yeah, no.
Jason
Oh yeah. See, I have a friend of mine that worked at he just retired from Angola, and he told me about about him, because he'd see him every day. And you know, last time I chatted with him, he said he's pretty institutionalized
Stoney
already. Oh, yeah,
Jason
he's, he said, he doesn't say anything. He just kind of sits in a, you know, his deal. So, yeah, but yeah. But this says jail records show bail was set at 35,000 in the initial case, with a court appearance scheduled for April 13, a separate April 13, booking list bail at 25,000 with court date set for April 14, according to jail record. So it's this guy may have already gone to court and had something, yeah, but you only got to put
Stoney
10% down. If it's $35,000 you got to come up with $3,500 at a bail bondsman to get out, right? And some type of collateral for the rest of it, yeah. So it's kind of interesting, you know, we talked about California and some of their thoughts on guns and stuff, but I think it's really interesting to kind of look at some of the castle laws and Castle policies through the states, and Louisiana is one of the most what's the word I want to use if you if you were in a place that you can legally occupy, it used to be they had to be in your home. So basically, the joke was, if you guys shoot somebody, make sure you drag them in the house. So you can say you shot them in the house. Well, now the castle doctrine, basically, is, if you were in a place that you legally can be, you cannot be forced out of that situation. And if you believe that your life is in danger, you can stand your ground. That's where stand your ground comes right? You can stand your ground and protect yourself, but you have to believe you're in danger. Yeah? Well, there was plenty evidence from the video. That's what as
Ian
well, saying I was, like, it gets to a point where, like, where he, like, I said, I know it's, it's probably not much, but like, you know, ripping that bell off of the door and, like, kicking the door
Stoney
and stuff. Did he say? I will end you,
Ian
yeah, some threats and stuff. Like I said at that point. Like, it's just it gets to a point where, and that's kind of why I said the caveat of, like, if I'm out in public and I have reason to believe He's unarmed again, I think I'm again, it's easy to hyperbolize here whenever you know I'm in the safety of the studio. But like, obviously, I feel like I would protect myself if I was being attacked in any capacity. But obviously, I think there's like, a level of, like, if you're being that aggressive, trying to get into my house, and you then successfully get into my house, like I am going to protect myself by any means necessary, right, especially for destroying my property in the process. That's just, yeah, they say
Jason
on the he said on the said there was a, you know, it's like you said there was another encounter. He said it was also involved in a child before this one
Ian
said it was, it was a different child. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Jason
But it wasn't the same person. They say. A witness later came forward reporting an encounter between the suspect and a child days before the break in. I'm very curious. Yeah, what that was all about? She says determined there was probable cause for an additional arrest on child related charge.
Ian
But what so? So was the police involved in that earlier?
Jason
Yeah, authority said no further details will be released. The involvement of minor. So who knows what? What happened?
Ian
Yeah, I wonder why we're not getting info about him, or not getting info about like, more like, why?
Stoney
Well, because that's the way, especially California, does that. They want to turn the victim into the criminal. And if we had all the necessary stuff of what his past was, it would be harder to convince everybody. Had he been shot coming in, or the guy would have thumped him with the shovel. It's too hard. Then it becomes harder to make the victim the criminal, and that's what happens in those states. I mean, what that
Jason
guy was saying about, you know, letting me in or I'm going to Yeah, you know, effing yeah in you I think that's yeah.
Stoney
But even in California that still, you know, and think about that, you shoot him and you don't kill him, then he sues you for civil damages. I mean, they are his fam. If you do kill him now, his family sues you. I'm gonna,
Ian
I'm gonna counter sue you for emotional damage, emotional distress on my wife and child.
Jason
Way too many things that they, they, it's crazy. That's why people I'm telling you, it's just, we just, we have made it now where we just really can't fix problems anymore. Yeah, we really can. I mean, we we've made things so difficult that we just cannot fix problems anymore. So people just throw up their hands, and that's unfortunately just build on, you know, people just retreat further and further in isolation and fear and everything else, I can't go here. Can't go there.
Stoney
Crazy people. Is that part of what they want with the 15 minute cities? We're not going to venture out anymore. We're going to stay in our homes. We're going to do this. We're going to work from home, or we're going to work, you know, three blocks away from where we live, is that what they're is this intentional?
Jason
I you know, I don't know. I've thought about that. I don't know if it's necessarily intentional, not in the way that I the way I think you're saying it like there's some mastermind sitting behind the desk going, I'm
Stoney
controlling the I don't think it's one mastermind, but George Soros is part of it. Microsoft ding
Jason
dong is part of it. I would venture to say I would think the Five Eyes are probably heavily involved in this, but I think it's a confluence of events that you manipulate enough of the the system, so to speak, that it just inevitably, it just kind of moves in that direction. See what I'm saying. It's, it's not that there's Okay, I'm gonna do this. I think we manipulate this, and I think they're projecting that okay if this
Stoney
goes this way. But hey, look, this worked out really good. Let's, let's try that. But what if we change it a little bit here? Let's see what happens. Oh, that worked. Well, that didn't work as good as we thought. Let's try this. And I think they're pushing it. I think there were some people or groups are working together, and it's somewhat intentional, because that's what they use, is fear. We're going to give up our rights because we're scared. We're going to give up all of our things because we live in fear. I don't want to go out, I don't want to drive, I
Jason
don't want to do this. I think that's already happened. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think people right now terrified of of going to public places now as why the rise of of Amazon and places like that, then everybody don't want to go out anymore because they're scared to death. It's like, you know, I mean, you know, today, tragically in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, yes, at at a nice mall, you know, there was an altercation between looks like two rival gangs and and 10 people are have been injured. I think one was killed 17 years old. Yeah, and you know, this is just terrible. I mean, just was that earlier in the week or last week, there was another tragedy with a gentleman up in Shreveport, Louisiana, that, you know, made national news like Louisiana needs any more, right? You know, you know, attention on them, but, but yes, I'm saying, I think these events just contribute to this overall sense of, you know, I can't leave my house. And unfortunately, if you, if you succumb to that, then I think you're succumbing, and you're going down the path where I think these people that Stoney talk about want you to go. And it's like I tell people so you cannot live in fear. I say you're never going to stop. Crazy people, all violent, any of that stuff, because it's just, it's just the way it is. I mean, there's not enough tax dollars to basically make you 100% safe. You're not even 100% safe in your own home, right?
Stoney
Really, coming down to, I almost feel like we're going back to the wild west times.
Jason
I don't even think the Wild West was as bad.
Stoney
And some places it wasn't, some places it wasn't, I agree with you there, but you know, it just it feels like that kind of a mentality with 10 times as many people. And it's when you get this bottled up, right? And you have so many things happening and stress and the food that we're being fed, you have to wonder when that bottle is going to pop, and it's popping like this little incident here, you know, with with the gang related stuff from kids weren't even in they were from 100 miles how many miles away, 60 something miles we don't,
Jason
yeah, we don't know exactly, I think they did make an arrest in an adjacent, an adjacent parish, which would be a county for those outside Louisiana, that that there may be some connection there. But, you know, that's what I'm saying. We I think inevitably, and I think some of these dollars were people buying ring doorbells and buying cameras. And I'm looking at some of these numbers here. This smart the smart doorbell market, hit 18 point 9 billion in 2024 and it's projected to go to 90 billion by 2034 so you're going to have more and more houses equipped with cameras and everything else. And so is it right now, ring alone controls roughly 39% of the global market. Really, yes, they're huge. So that's a lot of people with a lot of cameras. Yeah, that, you know, ring got themselves, I believe in trouble regarding people having access to some of this footage, right? And I think there was some lawsuit or something to that effect. But, yeah. But here it is. This is what happens? This is how this stuff sneaks up. 78% of users cite convenience as the rain reason for getting door for these type of products. And that's how everything is packaged. It's convenient. It makes it easy, but there's always it comes with. There's always a catch, and there's always a consequence for it. And, you know, I think we are, I think we are building the future that I think, I think everybody talks about, yeah, I really do,
Stoney
like you said, there's pros and cons to everything. The pros to the ring camera is all of the videos that you see of the booby trap Amazon packages, when they start running to the car and it blows up with paint and glitter. That's a that's one of the pros of it. I can watch those videos all day long, as some stupid person going to steal a package and boom, gets hit with the paint and the glitter. So there's pros and cons. There everything. Yeah, it's
Jason
a lot of people right now. There was, you know, ring is partnered with 1000s of police agencies, and of course, there's a lot of people raising civil civil liberty concerns right now about, you know, now the police can just tap in and can basically surveil old neighborhood. I mean, you get enough people would ring door bells. I mean, it's cheaper to borrow your
Stoney
ring than it is to put cameras up on the telephone Exactly. We'll just let
Jason
the population do it for us. That's right, you know. And trust me,
Stoney
people will that's how you lose your freedoms because you're scared. Well, I'm gonna give my freedom of privacy up. So you can check and see what car drove out of the neighborhood at two o'clock in the morning, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. But they can watch anytime they want to, can't they?
Jason
Well, you know, as I said, it comes down to just how easy you make
Stoney
my video, you're welcome to it when you bring that warrant, right? Yeah, I got nothing. We're gonna do it legally, right?
Jason
Unless you voluntarily say, you know, if my, if my ring footage can help solve or identify a criminal, that's what
Stoney
time you want, 10 minutes before and 10 minutes after that time, I'll be glad to download that and give it to you absolutely. Yeah, no problem. I think it's on all of it. Bring your warrant. I think
Jason
it's a, it's like, it's, you know, it's good and bad, and we'll see how all that plays out as time goes on. But yes, I do think that in this particular case, with this particular gentleman, I think it's just pretty brazen, and I think I had a, you know. Like I mentioned earlier that, and I had an event happen in my house. Nothing like what this guy did, but still, some strange person hitting the doorbell wee hours of the morning, obviously disoriented. Look. She looked like she probably had some mental issues going on. But, I mean, they got ton of these people walking
Stoney
around, but there's a scam going around that's been going around for a couple of years, where a woman will come saying she needs help, and as soon as you open that door, her three friends come around
Jason
exactly you have to be careful.
Ian
I don't mean to change the subject my my brother is a is a paramedic, and is obviously a guy on the inside, and the situation that happened in Baton Rouge, yes, a second person has, well, they say two
Jason
were critical, yeah, when they called
Ian
them off. So I think that one person had to think in the moment. And then I think that they, I just got word from Him, that they the hospital couldn't save the other person. So one
Jason
of the people, he never knows where, wherever he got shot, you know, it's sometimes, sometimes it's, you know, it's pretty traumatic. And, yeah, it's very rare that you can kind of pull out of that. But yeah, the first one died was 17, so I'll be very curious with the age of of this person. So I'm sure we'll be getting a news alert. Oh, yeah, regarding, you know, this is all happening in real time. For, yeah, this is all happening real time as we're recording. This is a tragedy, and I really fear for the businesses there, because, I mean that it's already right now. I mean, I've heard the comments about people, you know, not wanting to go to the mall because of this or that or everything else, and now this happens. It's like, oh, gee, yeah, you know. So I don't, I don't know what the what the answer is with between crazy people doing crazy things and just people doing stupid things
Stoney
and nothing. But you said you had innocent Miranda, and I are living that in our life right now, because, you know, people can't get the help that they need, and I'm not going to go out and blast anybody right now, but I'm living this too. It's just inside my own home, and it's sad because people need help, and we're not doing
Jason
it, yeah, well, I think that fundamentally goes back to, you know, how much tax dollars do you want going to different things. And I think fundamental that goes to the argument of of you know, how much money we spend on this versus this? I think
Stoney
we need to control the money, instead of $220 billion being lost in California for some bullshit, and how many billions of dollars in Minnesota? How many billions of dollars in Louisiana, because they're finding, with their own sort of Doge stuff, that there's some money being misappropriated in Louisiana. But you know what? Let's just appropriate to the right places. There's money out there, but instead of putting it into our politicians hands, where, I think three politicians got arrested today for insider trading. Oh, gosh, okay, how about, instead of putting it in their hands, how about we put it where the people are that really need the help? Yeah, see, that's that's one kind of everybody thinks I'm kind of hard line on everything, and that's not true, right? I'm a fiscal conservative with liberal tendencies. There's people out there who need help. Yes, you just need to tell me how we're going to pay for it, right? I've got no problem helping people that need help, but if you want to be a career handout type person, I got nothing for you. But if you really need help, and right now, with everything, with our food and social media and everything, there's some people out there with some real mental issues who need help, and we need to figure out what we're going to do about it right. First off, Robert Kennedy, Jr needs to do something with the FDA and get these chemicals out of our food. That needs to happen yesterday, because that's part of what's happening here. We've proven with Brandon, who's been on the show before, in the couple of episodes that we talk about, what is this food and chemicals that we're putting doing to our bodies? Right? There's no telling what this young, this young man, he's young to me, has gone through, trauma wise, and then all of this, I'm not going to make him to be the victim in this, right? But Good lord, right, you know, and obviously he's been in trouble with the police before. Maybe if you involve a child, you need to go away for a year somewhere, right? So that they can diagnose why you're messing around with a child. Yes, so that you can't turn around two days later and do
Ian
it again. Precisely what happens
Stoney
if he would have gotten. That child, yes, before the Father got to the house, yeah.
Ian
And my thing is, like, I this is why I want more clarification that we don't have. Thank you. On the situation that happened the two years, the two days prior to the event that we saw that we're talking about today. Why was the police called. What did the police do in that moment? Did they like, was, was like, You know what I'm saying, like, like, what was, was it just, like, was it just verbal? Was it just, like, a threat, like, or, or was there something like, where, like, was a negligence on the police, kind of, like, you know, I'm saying, like, this, were my mind starting to run California? I know what's I'm saying. There's like, if there was, like, a touching of a child situation, and the police are like, ah, shame on you.
Stoney
Person once said only in California,
Ian
that's what I'm saying. Is like, at that point, like, again, if it's just some sort of like, I don't know what I'm trying to say is, like, why, if there was a child involved? Was he not already, like, in some sort of jail or, like, holding facility before it got to it got escalated to the thing that we're talking about today. That's all I'm saying. But, like I said, we don't have clarification on it, so I don't know, because they don't want us
Stoney
to have that, because they want to turn the victim into a criminal, right? And the criminal into a victim. And they can't do that if we have all the good, juicy details, are the T as Miranda likes.
Jason
I don't know what they're gonna do if the guy is, if the guy is certifiable,
Stoney
but think about this. They put a $35,000 it's $3,500
Jason
so that tells me, right there, that they don't, there's really, really don't care. They don't care and and the system is so overburdened. That's what I'm saying, is what, what has happened to the the kind of the minutia, the infrastructure that's designed, that we've built over time to to be able to deal with these, these issues, can't keep up with what the real, the realistic numbers that are being funneled into it can handle it was never designed for that, and so that's what you have, is you've got $35,000 bonds on this because there's probably no room in the Dane jail. There's no place to put them. And they probably right now are basically, they're trying to do away with jails. That's crazy. I mean, in California, we're trying to do away with jails. So, I
Stoney
mean, well, again, it comes down to the community centers, you know? Oh, let's help people. Let's, let's know, we need to help them. But Good lord, you know what's, what's, what's the breaking point
Jason
we've lost? I've said this with just a whole host of issues regarding just crime. We have lost the political will in the United States to basically solve problems. We can't do it anymore. There's so much hand wringing. We can't do this. We got this. We got that, oh, we can't do because no one really wants to basically be mean, yeah.
Stoney
I mean not being mean, it's being smart and taking care of people. What we've done is if we turned into a bunch of cowards who are only involved in wanting money and oh, we got all the money we need. It just goes to the wrong places. It doesn't go to our roads. It doesn't go to the people who truly need help. It doesn't go to these mental issues. But there seems to be plenty of money around to go for a $225 billion high speed rail line in California that never got the first line of track. Done that money? If you give us another 100 and $50 billion for it, we'll start building Absolutely there's plenty of money. We're not putting it in the right places. How about we put it into the right places? Put it into our people. Put it into our roads. 85% of the bridges in America should be declared. What was it? Declared, whatever? Yeah, dilapidated, whatever it is,
Jason
whatever the term they use.
Stoney
85% of the bridges in America, really, but yet we are going to protect the people in Minnesota, and that's what
Jason
I'm saying. I mean the whole Nick, Nick we talked about Nick Shirley, what he did in Minnesota. He went to California. They're right now. They got a law that passed there. I believe their California house assemblies to stop Nick Shirley. Yes, to
Stoney
stop Nick Shirley. I mean,
Jason
it's like now, I will give him credit, because the number of hospice care centers have have, have, have closed dramatically, because,
Stoney
overall, basically, but think about money frauds. What did he do? He went in there with a hidden camera, right? Okay, so what is our governor and our politicians do? They're trying to pass a law if they haven't already that says you can't. Do that in Louisiana, so it's their own form of the anti Nick Shirley law, but our governor is trying to get that passed to where you must announce or both parties really. Yeah, so we're just going to stop people, and we're going to kill the transparency, and we're going to make it easy for our politicians in our own state, I don't commit crimes.
Ian
Gonna be I don't know how that's gonna be possible.
Jason
They basically just based upon just giving fraud that's happening right now. Just kind of FY, I kind of did, did a little, tried a little dual search of what that how that impacts us. It's about five to 8000 per household, really, to just make up for the fraud that's going on for every person. Wow. You know, per household, that is what's about. So in essence, you have to work, I think, an extra four to five and a half full weeks just to pay for just to pay for the fraud, wow. So that's what you're right now, having to work, yeah, to pay for the increase in prices and everything that goes along with companies
Stoney
have that means you're paying about five months just for our debt.
Jason
Yeah, wow. It's just a, it's a, it's a terrible situation right now, and and as I said, I mean, as I said, as long as we're as long as we can print money, there's really no incentive to actually be fiscally conservative responsible, because there's just not enough money to do with what they all want to do.
Stoney
There is enough money you got to put it in the right places. And you got me,
Jason
that means, that means you can't do the things they want to do, yeah, which is go their ventures and go do all this other stuff.
Ian
So let's go. But let's go. Let's go fight and I ran again. Don't mean to bring the hell up.
Jason
Yeah, that's a whole different, whole different boat. And that's just one thing that, you know, just our, just our own fraud here in the, in the good old USA, it's just through the roof. I mean, I think it's approaching a trillion dollars. It's real fraud, yeah, so you can just imagine how much money is just
Stoney
Well, think about California's got 225 billion in fraud. Or, you know, yeah, quarter away there.
Jason
There you go. I mean, I mean, you
Stoney
think quarter away, right there.
Jason
Think of all the scandals that have happened over the years. I mean, y'all remember Enron, I mean, that disaster, the.com bust. Was it world com?
Ian
Oh, and speaking of I was another topic for another day, but the there's a lot of talks right now that the AI bubble is getting to a point where, like a lot of investors, a lot of people, a lot of companies, expected this infinitely scalable growth, and now we're hitting a ceiling where, like, the AI is is getting good, but not at the rate that they're expecting it
Jason
to and they've got to promise it. Yeah, I think to get people to buy into it, to put money into it, and to deliver it and put it into systems, and then it's going to collapse, because it's but at that point now it's in there. Oh yeah, exactly there.
Ian
Technology's already here and go away. But I think the problem is we're hitting that point now where, like, I think people have been investing into it because it was scaling at the rate that they were expecting. But now we're at a point now where it's not quite, it's not infinite. We're hitting a ceiling. And all I'm saying is, like, we talked about, you talked about the.com bubble and other things like that. I wouldn't be surprised that if, like, in the in a very short time, that, like, there's an AI gonna have a financial crisis where, like, you know, a lot of things are gonna anyways. I'm just speculating. But I've heard from people that are in the in the in the area, or talking about it being like, Oh, we've seen this happen a handful of years ago and things like that. So, but anyways, you're right. There's always something else.
Jason
Oh yeah. I mean, we are. It's this has got a lot of issues, yeah. And unfortunately, our topic today was a, in essence, it was a crazy person, you know,
Stoney
and one of many.
Jason
And he just was one of these people that, like I mentioned in the statistics earlier, probably has never gotten any treatment, and you're just wandering around the street.
Stoney
What I think, I think for me, one of the things that, one of the reasons I wanted to bring this to your attention was the fact of, we're talking about, AI, we're talking about all this, that at first, everyone thought this was a hoax, right? That it wasn't real. And then very quickly, I. How real it was. It became real. It became very real. But we're in a state in the world where you saw that and you went, Oh, somebody's using AI again. Look what somebody did, yep. You know, because a real person wouldn't have a long trench coat and flip flops, that must be AI, right? And I want to know, did Harry Dresden wear a long trench coat and flip flops in the show.
Ian
I believe, trench coat, yes, flip flops, no.
Stoney
While invested was this guy in the character,
Jason
since I've I've saw anything with Harry, I think, I
Ian
think I saw an image because I looked up who this character was upon hearing what the story and I think he has, like, a wide brimmed hat. It does coat, I think, like a torch or something. So, like, he's, like, a very he's an interesting looking character, but I don't think this, I don't think it wasn't even Jason, is that right? Or Yeah, I don't think this perpetrator, Jason, not our Jason was the, was the, I don't think he committed fully to the Okay, the character, so he could have done that in his head.
Stoney
Man. Well, wow. For anybody out
Ian
there who wants to let us know what you think about this, we have comment sections on Spotify and on YouTube where you can send us the short form responses and our email address get offended together@gmail.com where you can send some longer form responses if you want to let us know if you want to hear us talk about 1984 because I'm actually, I'm interested. I want to, I want to know if people want to listen to that, because I want to read that book in its entirety, especially now we've been talking about surveillance state, state stuff so but anyways, thank you so much for listening. And until next week, bye, bye,
Jason
goodbye everyone, and God bless
Stoney
here is the policy failure in one sentence. In America, a person can be too unstable to live safely, too delusional to think clearly, too unpredictable to trust around strangers and still somehow not be the system's problem until they cross a line in blood, glass or fear, this is madness. We closed institutions, narrowed interventions, overburdened. The police flooded. Ers, packed jails and then acted like this was compassion, because the buildings looked nicer on paper. Meanwhile, families get the raw end of the experiment when someone violently enters a home looking for a young girl, all the elegant debates disappear. The parent does not get a panel discussion, the child does not get a white paper. The family gets seconds to respond, and the consequences can last forever. So no, this episode is not really about one strange man at the front door. It's about a country that keeps forcing ordinary people to absorb extraordinary danger, while the experts argue over terminology, over the fact that is the problem, that's the scandal, and that's why stories like this keep happening. Thanks for hanging out with us today. You're the best peace.