{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1.32,"endTime":3.3,"body":"From the Blue"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1.32,"endTime":3.3,"body":"Ridge Mountains to the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":3.3,"endTime":7.2,"body":"Chesapeake Bay, Virginia is a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":3.3,"endTime":7.2,"body":"mecca for outdoor travel and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":7.2,"endTime":11.34,"body":"adventure. Virginia outdoor"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":7.2,"endTime":11.34,"body":"adventures Podcast is your local"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":11.34,"endTime":15.24,"body":"guide for hiking, camping,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":11.34,"endTime":15.24,"body":"kayaking, travel and so much"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":15.24,"endTime":19.74,"body":"more. Get the information and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":15.24,"endTime":19.74,"body":"the inspiration to plan your own"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":19.74,"endTime":24.14,"body":"adventure right here in"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":19.74,"endTime":24.14,"body":"Virginia, I'm your host. Jessica"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":24.14,"endTime":28.94,"body":"Bowser, it's that time of year"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":24.14,"endTime":28.94,"body":"when we set intentions for the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":28.94,"endTime":33.98,"body":"future. Will your resolutions be"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":28.94,"endTime":33.98,"body":"outdoorsy? Alejandra Villanueva"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":33.98,"endTime":38.12,"body":"of the hiking community girls"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":33.98,"endTime":38.12,"body":"who hike Virginia, shares the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":38.12,"endTime":41.92,"body":"story of her ambitious pursuit"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":38.12,"endTime":41.92,"body":"to hike old rag mountain 36"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":42.4,"endTime":47.2,"body":"times before the end of 2024 her"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":42.4,"endTime":47.2,"body":"remarkable journey beautifully"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":47.2,"endTime":50.5,"body":"intertwined her love of hiking"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":47.2,"endTime":50.5,"body":"with the transformative power of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":50.5,"endTime":54.76,"body":"nature. Alejandra's adventures"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":50.5,"endTime":54.76,"body":"on old rag are a testament of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":54.76,"endTime":58.9,"body":"resilience and profound self"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":54.76,"endTime":58.9,"body":"discovery. She offers insights"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":58.9,"endTime":62.88,"body":"into staying motivated amid"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":58.9,"endTime":62.88,"body":"unexpected challenges, and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":62.88,"endTime":66.06,"body":"harnessing the power of a hiking"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":62.88,"endTime":66.06,"body":"community and keeping her"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":66.06,"endTime":70.08,"body":"accountable. As we look ahead to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":66.06,"endTime":70.08,"body":"the New Year, we discuss how to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":70.08,"endTime":75.36,"body":"set meaningful outdoor goals for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":70.08,"endTime":75.36,"body":"a year of adventure. Let's go"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":76.68,"endTime":80.58,"body":"Virginia Outdoor Adventures is"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":76.68,"endTime":80.58,"body":"sponsored by Virginia state"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":80.58,"endTime":84.44,"body":"parks, whether you're after a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":80.58,"endTime":84.44,"body":"relaxing picnic or a two week"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":84.44,"endTime":88.34,"body":"vacation, leave life's daily"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":84.44,"endTime":88.34,"body":"pressures behind and reconnect"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":88.34,"endTime":92.3,"body":"with nature and family at a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":88.34,"endTime":92.3,"body":"nearby State Park, you'll find"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":92.3,"endTime":97.16,"body":"plenty of programs, events and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":92.3,"endTime":97.16,"body":"activities among 43 parks, plus"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":97.16,"endTime":101.2,"body":"1000s of campsites, hundreds of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":97.16,"endTime":101.2,"body":"cabins, More than 500 miles of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":101.2,"endTime":105.58,"body":"trails and convenient access to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":101.2,"endTime":105.58,"body":"Virginia's major waterways, from"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":105.58,"endTime":108.76,"body":"Cumberland Gap to the Atlantic"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":105.58,"endTime":108.76,"body":"Ocean. There's something for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":108.76,"endTime":112.96,"body":"everyone at Virginia state"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":108.76,"endTime":112.96,"body":"parks. Discover Your next state"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":112.96,"endTime":116.86,"body":"park adventure by clicking on"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":112.96,"endTime":116.86,"body":"Virginia state parks in the show"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":116.86,"endTime":122.4,"body":"notes of your listening app."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":116.86,"endTime":122.4,"body":"Alejandro, welcome to Virginia"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":122.4,"endTime":123.72,"body":"outdoor adventures."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":123.9,"endTime":126.36,"body":"Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":123.9,"endTime":126.36,"body":"having me. I'm so excited to be"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":126.36,"endTime":127.32,"body":"here, Jessica. What"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":127.32,"endTime":129.6,"body":"do you love"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":127.32,"endTime":129.6,"body":"about Virginia's outdoors?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":129.66,"endTime":132.72,"body":"So as a new hiker, one"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":129.66,"endTime":132.72,"body":"of the things I love the most is"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":132.72,"endTime":136.86,"body":"how much there is to hike. Every"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":132.72,"endTime":136.86,"body":"single hike I go on, we talk"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":136.86,"endTime":140.18,"body":"about, like our favorite hikes"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":136.86,"endTime":140.18,"body":"and trails, and I always leave"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":140.18,"endTime":143.72,"body":"with like, a notepad on my phone"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":140.18,"endTime":143.72,"body":"full of new hikes that I've"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":143.72,"endTime":146.78,"body":"never heard of, that someone"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":143.72,"endTime":146.78,"body":"highly recommends, and it seems"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":146.78,"endTime":149.24,"body":"like the list just never ends."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":146.78,"endTime":149.24,"body":"So that's probably my favorite"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":149.24,"endTime":149.9,"body":"thing. That's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":149.9,"endTime":152.42,"body":"true, the list"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":149.9,"endTime":152.42,"body":"really doesn't ever end. I had a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":152.42,"endTime":155.18,"body":"friend once tell me that she did"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":152.42,"endTime":155.18,"body":"all the hikes in Virginia and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":155.18,"endTime":157.46,"body":"there was nothing left to do,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":155.18,"endTime":157.46,"body":"and she was bored. And I was"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":157.46,"endTime":160.96,"body":"like, I'm sorry. I don't"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":157.46,"endTime":160.96,"body":"understand, because there's so"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":160.96,"endTime":163.36,"body":"many places to hike, I don't"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":160.96,"endTime":163.36,"body":"know how you could possibly run"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":163.36,"endTime":164.26,"body":"out. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":164.26,"endTime":166.78,"body":"I don't, especially"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":164.26,"endTime":166.78,"body":"there's a little of everything"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":166.78,"endTime":169.48,"body":"you have to be willing to travel"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":166.78,"endTime":169.48,"body":"to. Like I did not. I've lived"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":169.48,"endTime":173.68,"body":"in Virginia for 25 years now. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":169.48,"endTime":173.68,"body":"didn't understand that I could"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":173.68,"endTime":177.22,"body":"go seven hours and still be in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":173.68,"endTime":177.22,"body":"Virginia. I didn't know that."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":177.76,"endTime":178.24,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":178.24,"endTime":180.1,"body":"that's right,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":178.24,"endTime":180.1,"body":"especially from Northern"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":180.1,"endTime":183.3,"body":"Virginia, like some parts of the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":180.1,"endTime":183.3,"body":"state, are far drive, but it"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":183.3,"endTime":186.72,"body":"just means that there's always"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":183.3,"endTime":186.72,"body":"something to explore. Yes, what"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":186.72,"endTime":189.72,"body":"inspired you to begin hiking"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":186.72,"endTime":189.72,"body":"since you're a newbie?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":189.78,"endTime":193.8,"body":"So this was at the end"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":189.78,"endTime":193.8,"body":"of, I think it was 2022, I had"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":193.8,"endTime":197.1,"body":"spent the entire year trying to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":193.8,"endTime":197.1,"body":"hike old ride because I had"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":197.1,"endTime":200.3,"body":"hiked it before in my early 20s,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":197.1,"endTime":200.3,"body":"and I remember just loving how"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":200.3,"endTime":203.3,"body":"it felt. You know, coming out of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":200.3,"endTime":203.3,"body":"the pandemic, I did not want to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":203.3,"endTime":206.3,"body":"go back to the gym, but I wanted"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":203.3,"endTime":206.3,"body":"movement in my life. I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":206.3,"endTime":209.48,"body":"trying to get back into, like, a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":206.3,"endTime":209.48,"body":"healthy group. I just remember,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":209.48,"endTime":213.38,"body":"like, hiking felt really good,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":209.48,"endTime":213.38,"body":"and I had spent all year trying"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":213.38,"endTime":216.92,"body":"to hike, and just throughout my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":213.38,"endTime":216.92,"body":"friend groups, was not able to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":216.98,"endTime":219.56,"body":"accomplish it, because they"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":216.98,"endTime":219.56,"body":"wanted to hike during, like, the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":219.56,"endTime":223.0,"body":"perfect weather and things like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":219.56,"endTime":223.0,"body":"that. And I think all I wanted"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":223.0,"endTime":226.24,"body":"to do that year was just hike it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":223.0,"endTime":226.24,"body":"once. But the fact that I wasn't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":226.24,"endTime":230.62,"body":"able to somehow became like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":226.24,"endTime":230.62,"body":"this goal of, like, I want to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":230.62,"endTime":235.06,"body":"hike more. So I remember, I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":230.62,"endTime":235.06,"body":"big into New Year's, and I just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":235.06,"endTime":239.38,"body":"wrote down in my new year goal"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":235.06,"endTime":239.38,"body":"that I was making hike more. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":239.38,"endTime":242.4,"body":"I didn't know what that meant,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":239.38,"endTime":242.4,"body":"at the time, I had no clue that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":242.4,"endTime":245.22,"body":"I would become an actual, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":242.4,"endTime":245.22,"body":"avid hiker. I just knew that I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":245.22,"endTime":248.7,"body":"wanted to hike more, and I just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":245.22,"endTime":248.7,"body":"wanted to move and be happy"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":248.7,"endTime":253.44,"body":"doing movement, and that's what"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":248.7,"endTime":253.44,"body":"got me started into it. So"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":253.44,"endTime":255.24,"body":"you just"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":253.44,"endTime":255.24,"body":"mentioned the first time that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":255.24,"endTime":257.94,"body":"you hiked old rag was long"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":255.24,"endTime":257.94,"body":"before you set this goal for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":257.94,"endTime":260.6,"body":"yourself. Do you remember what"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":257.94,"endTime":260.6,"body":"that experience was like? I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":260.6,"endTime":264.26,"body":"mean, it must have had an impact"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":260.6,"endTime":264.26,"body":"on you if you decided you wanted"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":264.26,"endTime":266.84,"body":"to set this big goal for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":264.26,"endTime":266.84,"body":"yourself. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":266.84,"endTime":270.5,"body":"I first hiked it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":266.84,"endTime":270.5,"body":"October of 2013 that was my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":270.5,"endTime":273.62,"body":"first time hiking it. I don't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":270.5,"endTime":273.62,"body":"remember all of it, but I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":273.62,"endTime":277.1,"body":"remember a few parts. The most"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":273.62,"endTime":277.1,"body":"impactful one was, I think this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":277.1,"endTime":279.68,"body":"is probably the moment I fell in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":277.1,"endTime":279.68,"body":"love with hiking. I just didn't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":279.68,"endTime":282.7,"body":"know it. We were going up the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":279.68,"endTime":282.7,"body":"first two and a half miles,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":282.7,"endTime":286.36,"body":"which is just like the steep"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":282.7,"endTime":286.36,"body":"incline, and I was going on this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":286.36,"endTime":289.66,"body":"hike with a friend. It was her"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":286.36,"endTime":289.66,"body":"birthday, which I did not know"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":289.66,"endTime":292.6,"body":"this until I looked it up that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":289.66,"endTime":292.6,"body":"we went for her birthday. It was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":292.6,"endTime":296.5,"body":"right after my first big"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":292.6,"endTime":296.5,"body":"heartbreak. So I was like, you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":296.5,"endTime":299.92,"body":"know, in that grieving state,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":296.5,"endTime":299.92,"body":"and it was my first time hiking."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":300.06,"endTime":304.02,"body":"And anything that challenging."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":300.06,"endTime":304.02,"body":"As we were going up and my legs"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":304.02,"endTime":308.1,"body":"were on fire, my calves were"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":304.02,"endTime":308.1,"body":"hurting like I remember looking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":308.1,"endTime":311.7,"body":"at her and being like, oh my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":308.1,"endTime":311.7,"body":"god, this is so painful. I love"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":311.7,"endTime":317.16,"body":"it. And I told her that for the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":311.7,"endTime":317.16,"body":"first time, my body was matching"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":317.16,"endTime":320.18,"body":"the way I felt on the inside,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":317.16,"endTime":320.18,"body":"because I was grieving. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":320.18,"endTime":323.18,"body":"something about that, I'm not a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":320.18,"endTime":323.18,"body":"sports person. I've never played"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":323.18,"endTime":325.28,"body":"sports. I've never been"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":323.18,"endTime":325.28,"body":"athletic, so I had never"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":325.28,"endTime":329.36,"body":"experienced that before. It was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":325.28,"endTime":329.36,"body":"my first time, and I really"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":329.42,"endTime":332.24,"body":"enjoyed it. It was very like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":329.42,"endTime":332.24,"body":"cathartic for me. So I remember"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":332.24,"endTime":335.72,"body":"that. I also remember we made"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":332.24,"endTime":335.72,"body":"protein pancakes, and that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":335.72,"endTime":339.68,"body":"what we had for food. I also"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":335.72,"endTime":339.68,"body":"remember, now looking back on"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":339.68,"endTime":342.88,"body":"it, that I was not prepared at"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":339.68,"endTime":342.88,"body":"all for the hike that I did. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":342.88,"endTime":346.96,"body":"wore sneakers. I barely had,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":342.88,"endTime":346.96,"body":"like, a water a one little water"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":346.96,"endTime":350.32,"body":"bottle with me. Like, now I look"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":346.96,"endTime":350.32,"body":"back on it, I'm like, Oh, that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":350.32,"endTime":354.34,"body":"cute. I would never hike it like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":350.32,"endTime":354.34,"body":"that again. But that was the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":354.34,"endTime":357.64,"body":"first time, and I only hiked it."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":354.34,"endTime":357.64,"body":"I actually looked through my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":357.64,"endTime":361.44,"body":"Instagram and I only hiked it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":357.64,"endTime":361.44,"body":"three or four more times in the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":361.44,"endTime":365.22,"body":"following two or three years,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":361.44,"endTime":365.22,"body":"and then never hiked it again"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":365.28,"endTime":368.22,"body":"until two three years ago. I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":368.22,"endTime":370.86,"body":"can believe"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":368.22,"endTime":370.86,"body":"that, because I think I first"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":370.86,"endTime":375.36,"body":"hiked old rag I don't know, more"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":370.86,"endTime":375.36,"body":"than a decade ago at least, and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":375.36,"endTime":379.62,"body":"I was with a group of guy"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":375.36,"endTime":379.62,"body":"friends, and my recollection was"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":379.62,"endTime":383.78,"body":"that it took all of them to pull"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":379.62,"endTime":383.78,"body":"me and lift me up through the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":383.78,"endTime":386.0,"body":"rock scramble, because I'm"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":383.78,"endTime":386.0,"body":"pretty short, like I've got"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":386.0,"endTime":388.64,"body":"short arms and legs, and as you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":386.0,"endTime":388.64,"body":"know, there's some challenging"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":388.64,"endTime":391.52,"body":"parts in that rock scramble. And"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":388.64,"endTime":391.52,"body":"I remember thinking, I don't"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":391.52,"endTime":393.92,"body":"know if I would have made it"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":391.52,"endTime":393.92,"body":"through without these guys there"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":394.04,"endTime":396.74,"body":"helping me. After that, I kind"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":394.04,"endTime":396.74,"body":"of had it in my head that I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":396.74,"endTime":400.54,"body":"couldn't hike it by myself, and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":396.74,"endTime":400.54,"body":"that I had to have people with"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":400.54,"endTime":403.66,"body":"me who are going to help me"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":400.54,"endTime":403.66,"body":"through now, I know now that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":403.66,"endTime":406.66,"body":"that's not necessarily true. You"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":403.66,"endTime":406.66,"body":"know, you do it and you have a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":406.66,"endTime":409.96,"body":"certain recollection of it, and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":406.66,"endTime":409.96,"body":"then it's not until you start to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":409.96,"endTime":412.6,"body":"push yourself on your own that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":409.96,"endTime":412.6,"body":"you realize you can do it on"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":412.6,"endTime":413.86,"body":"your own. Yes, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":413.86,"endTime":416.68,"body":"you know, I think my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":413.86,"endTime":416.68,"body":"memory blocked the scramble out,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":416.68,"endTime":419.86,"body":"because I have no memory of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":416.68,"endTime":419.86,"body":"scramble that first time. It was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":419.86,"endTime":423.18,"body":"probably very hard a gap that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":419.86,"endTime":423.18,"body":"you do it towards the end of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":423.18,"endTime":426.36,"body":"scramble. When I went back few"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":423.18,"endTime":426.36,"body":"years ago, I remember the first"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":426.36,"endTime":430.62,"body":"time that I recall doing it, it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":426.36,"endTime":430.62,"body":"was a huge struggle for me. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":430.62,"endTime":433.38,"body":"I'm like, How did I do it in my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":430.62,"endTime":433.38,"body":"20s? Like, I have no clue how I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":433.38,"endTime":436.86,"body":"did it in my early 20s, so I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":433.38,"endTime":436.86,"body":"think I just blocked it out. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":436.86,"endTime":439.62,"body":"probably required a lot, a lot"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":436.86,"endTime":439.62,"body":"of help too, because looking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":439.62,"endTime":442.1,"body":"back with the picture, there was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":439.62,"endTime":442.1,"body":"a group of us, and we did have,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":442.1,"endTime":444.62,"body":"like, several guys with us. So,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":442.1,"endTime":444.62,"body":"like, I'm sure they helped us"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":444.62,"endTime":446.72,"body":"through it, because I don't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":444.62,"endTime":446.72,"body":"remember, I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":446.72,"endTime":449.66,"body":"believe it. And"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":446.72,"endTime":449.66,"body":"so what was the impetus for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":449.66,"endTime":455.12,"body":"setting a goal to hike old rag"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":449.66,"endTime":455.12,"body":"36 times? That's a big number"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":455.12,"endTime":456.2,"body":"for one year."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":456.44,"endTime":459.08,"body":"Yes, all right, so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":456.44,"endTime":459.08,"body":"there was two parts. A decision"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":459.08,"endTime":461.92,"body":"came in two parts. The first one"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":459.08,"endTime":461.92,"body":"was and I actually looked it up."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":461.92,"endTime":466.42,"body":"It was May of 2023, I was hiking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":461.92,"endTime":466.42,"body":"old rag with a group. As we were"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":466.42,"endTime":470.74,"body":"hiking it, we started talking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":466.42,"endTime":470.74,"body":"about another fellow hiker who"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":470.74,"endTime":474.82,"body":"has hiked it over 300 times. Now"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":470.74,"endTime":474.82,"body":"she, at the time, lived near it."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":474.88,"endTime":479.62,"body":"I'd hiked it over 300 times over"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":474.88,"endTime":479.62,"body":"10 years. So as we were walking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":479.62,"endTime":482.76,"body":"and talking about this. I'm a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":479.62,"endTime":482.76,"body":"numbers person, so in my head, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":482.76,"endTime":485.46,"body":"was like, oh, you know, like, if"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":482.76,"endTime":485.46,"body":"she does, she hikes it like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":485.46,"endTime":490.32,"body":"three times a month. That's like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":485.46,"endTime":490.32,"body":"36 a year. That's like 360 in 10"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":490.32,"endTime":493.5,"body":"years. I can see how that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":490.32,"endTime":493.5,"body":"doable right away. I was like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":493.5,"endTime":499.8,"body":"Oh, my God, 36 in a year. I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":493.5,"endTime":499.8,"body":"turning 36 in 2024 and as I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":499.92,"endTime":502.76,"body":"like, hiking, and I think of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":499.92,"endTime":502.76,"body":"this, I'm like, Oh, I have to do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":502.76,"endTime":506.12,"body":"it. I have to, like, the numbers"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":502.76,"endTime":506.12,"body":"align perfectly. And this was in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":506.12,"endTime":509.78,"body":"May. So in that moment, I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":506.12,"endTime":509.78,"body":"like, I can figure out how to do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":509.78,"endTime":512.84,"body":"it by next year, right? Like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":509.78,"endTime":512.84,"body":"how to challenge myself to do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":512.84,"endTime":516.32,"body":"it. So that was the moment where"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":512.84,"endTime":516.32,"body":"I was like, came up with the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":516.32,"endTime":519.38,"body":"idea, and then we did the hike"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":516.32,"endTime":519.38,"body":"and everything. And then I got"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":519.38,"endTime":523.24,"body":"home and I went to the shower."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":519.38,"endTime":523.24,"body":"And when I was in the shower, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":523.24,"endTime":526.36,"body":"was like, just brainstorming,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":523.24,"endTime":526.36,"body":"like, the logistics of this,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":526.36,"endTime":529.6,"body":"like, can I realistically do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":526.36,"endTime":529.6,"body":"this? And I was already, at that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":529.6,"endTime":533.38,"body":"point, hiking three times a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":529.6,"endTime":533.38,"body":"month, so I was like, Okay, now"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":533.38,"endTime":535.42,"body":"I'm just hiking the same"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":533.38,"endTime":535.42,"body":"mountain three times a month."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":535.42,"endTime":538.78,"body":"Like, no big deal. And I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":535.42,"endTime":538.78,"body":"remember the question that came"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":538.78,"endTime":544.98,"body":"up for me was so old rag,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":538.78,"endTime":544.98,"body":"especially now in my late 30s,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":545.1,"endTime":548.7,"body":"every time I've hiked it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":545.1,"endTime":548.7,"body":"afterwards, I ride this high of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":548.7,"endTime":553.14,"body":"feeling like an absolute badass."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":548.7,"endTime":553.14,"body":"It's very empowering for me. It"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":553.2,"endTime":556.02,"body":"challenges me, not just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":553.2,"endTime":556.02,"body":"physically, but also mentally,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":556.02,"endTime":559.74,"body":"even emotionally, at times and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":556.02,"endTime":559.74,"body":"afterwards, when I go back to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":559.74,"endTime":562.88,"body":"work on Monday, I can deal with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":559.74,"endTime":562.88,"body":"the world in such a different"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":562.88,"endTime":567.8,"body":"way now, like nothing feels as"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":562.88,"endTime":567.8,"body":"hard as it did on Friday, right?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":568.04,"endTime":571.58,"body":"I said in the shower. I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":568.04,"endTime":571.58,"body":"like, what if? What if I could"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":571.58,"endTime":575.84,"body":"feel that high for a whole year?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":571.58,"endTime":575.84,"body":"What would that do for me? What"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":575.84,"endTime":579.32,"body":"would that do for my mental"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":575.84,"endTime":579.32,"body":"health, for my healing, for just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":579.32,"endTime":582.88,"body":"my development? And the moment"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":579.32,"endTime":582.88,"body":"that question came up, I just, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":582.88,"endTime":585.58,"body":"was like, Oh, well, now I have"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":582.88,"endTime":585.58,"body":"to do it. I have to answer that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":585.58,"endTime":588.7,"body":"question. What would this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":585.58,"endTime":588.7,"body":"challenge do for me? And I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":588.7,"endTime":592.12,"body":"remember, as I'm in the shower,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":588.7,"endTime":592.12,"body":"I shout out to my fiance, Aaron."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":592.12,"endTime":595.78,"body":"I was like, and he had to come."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":592.12,"endTime":595.78,"body":"And I was like, I'm gonna hike"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":595.78,"endTime":598.9,"body":"gold rack next year, I think 36"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":595.78,"endTime":598.9,"body":"times. So I'm gonna need you to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":598.9,"endTime":600.12,"body":"support me through this. Okay?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":598.9,"endTime":600.12,"body":"Hey,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":600.42,"endTime":603.0,"body":"because it's gonna require a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":600.42,"endTime":603.0,"body":"lot. And you said this to him"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":603.0,"endTime":606.3,"body":"from the shower, from the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":603.0,"endTime":606.3,"body":"shower, I just knew, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":606.3,"endTime":610.08,"body":"at the bowl, rolling right away,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":606.3,"endTime":610.08,"body":"and I knew the first thing you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":610.08,"endTime":612.42,"body":"had to do was let him know,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":610.08,"endTime":612.42,"body":"because this was gonna require a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":612.42,"endTime":615.84,"body":"lot of time and commitment. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":612.42,"endTime":615.84,"body":"he knows me. He knows I'm crazy"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":615.84,"endTime":619.56,"body":"like that. I'll just do things"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":615.84,"endTime":619.56,"body":"randomly. And he was like, okay,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":619.56,"endTime":623.48,"body":"he just walked away, and that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":619.56,"endTime":623.48,"body":"that's how it started. That's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":623.48,"endTime":625.22,"body":"so funny, you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":623.48,"endTime":625.22,"body":"can even wait till you got out"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":625.22,"endTime":626.84,"body":"of the shower to tell him your"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":625.22,"endTime":626.84,"body":"plans."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":628.759,"endTime":630.739,"body":"I was very excited,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":628.759,"endTime":630.739,"body":"yeah,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":630.74,"endTime":633.5,"body":"and I think it's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":630.74,"endTime":633.5,"body":"really interesting what"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":633.5,"endTime":637.1,"body":"motivated you or what convinced"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":633.5,"endTime":637.1,"body":"you that this was a great idea."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":637.1,"endTime":639.56,"body":"Because I think for some folks,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":637.1,"endTime":639.56,"body":"and I think this would be true"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":639.56,"endTime":643.36,"body":"for me, I'd be wondering, what"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":639.56,"endTime":643.36,"body":"else am I missing out on if I'm"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":643.36,"endTime":647.5,"body":"only hiking the same trail over"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":643.36,"endTime":647.5,"body":"and over again for the entire"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":647.5,"endTime":650.02,"body":"year? Like, what about all those"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":647.5,"endTime":650.02,"body":"other trails that I wanted to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":650.02,"endTime":653.56,"body":"try? Or, what about new parks,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":650.02,"endTime":653.56,"body":"or new wildlife management"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":653.56,"endTime":657.1,"body":"areas, or, you know, new natural"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":653.56,"endTime":657.1,"body":"area preserves? Like, you know,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":657.1,"endTime":660.16,"body":"I would be thinking, Okay, now"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":657.1,"endTime":660.16,"body":"I'm committed to this one thing"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":660.16,"endTime":663.24,"body":"for a full year and I won't get"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":660.16,"endTime":663.24,"body":"to do any of his other things."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":663.24,"endTime":665.04,"body":"Did that thought go through your"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":663.24,"endTime":665.04,"body":"head at all?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":665.159,"endTime":667.559,"body":"Yes and no. Like, as"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":665.159,"endTime":667.559,"body":"you're saying it right now, I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":667.559,"endTime":670.079,"body":"like, I don't think I actually,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":667.559,"endTime":670.079,"body":"like, sat down and thought about"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":670.079,"endTime":673.619,"body":"it, but as you're saying it, I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":670.079,"endTime":673.619,"body":"like, Yeah, I can see that, but"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":673.619,"endTime":676.139,"body":"I don't feel that way. So one of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":673.619,"endTime":676.139,"body":"the reasons why I love bold"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":676.139,"endTime":678.479,"body":"drive, like, I think at this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":676.139,"endTime":678.479,"body":"point I have a relationship with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":678.479,"endTime":682.339,"body":"this mountain. I love it because"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":678.479,"endTime":682.339,"body":"as you drive up to it, you can"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":682.339,"endTime":685.099,"body":"clearly see it, like you're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":682.339,"endTime":685.099,"body":"pulling up, you're like, five"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":685.099,"endTime":687.799,"body":"minutes away from it, and you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":685.099,"endTime":687.799,"body":"see it, and it's massive, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":687.799,"endTime":690.679,"body":"you can see the boulders, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":687.799,"endTime":690.679,"body":"it's just magnificent there. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":690.679,"endTime":693.199,"body":"then you drive up to it, and now"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":690.679,"endTime":693.199,"body":"you can't see it anymore, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":693.199,"endTime":696.619,"body":"you just go into this trail, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":693.199,"endTime":696.619,"body":"as you start hiking it, if you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":696.619,"endTime":700.099,"body":"do this in the winter, you can"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":696.619,"endTime":700.099,"body":"actually start to see the summit"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":700.099,"endTime":703.719,"body":"as you're climbing up, but"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":700.099,"endTime":703.719,"body":"during those first two to three"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":703.719,"endTime":706.299,"body":"miles, you can't really see what"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":703.719,"endTime":706.299,"body":"you're going to enjoy. At some"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":706.299,"endTime":709.719,"body":"point, you just have to trust"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":706.299,"endTime":709.719,"body":"and keep going. And then you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":709.719,"endTime":712.419,"body":"start to see the fall Summit."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":709.719,"endTime":712.419,"body":"And the fall Summit is just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":712.599,"endTime":716.019,"body":"beautiful, gorgeous. And you're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":712.599,"endTime":716.019,"body":"like, oh my god, this is so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":716.019,"endTime":718.899,"body":"cool. And a lot of people, when"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":716.019,"endTime":718.899,"body":"they get to the fall Summit,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":719.319,"endTime":721.499,"body":"they think that's it. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":719.319,"endTime":721.499,"body":"they're like, I think we made"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":721.499,"endTime":724.079,"body":"it. And it's like, oh no, now"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":721.499,"endTime":724.079,"body":"you're actually about to go into"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":724.079,"endTime":726.419,"body":"a one mile scramble, and it's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":726.419,"endTime":728.639,"body":"really hard."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":726.419,"endTime":728.639,"body":"Yeah, there's a lot more left"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":728.639,"endTime":729.359,"body":"after that."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":729.66,"endTime":732.24,"body":"There's a lot more"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":729.66,"endTime":732.24,"body":"you're really about to get"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":732.24,"endTime":735.54,"body":"started. And to me, there's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":732.24,"endTime":735.54,"body":"something about that that just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":735.54,"endTime":738.78,"body":"kind of matches what life is"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":735.54,"endTime":738.78,"body":"like, right? It's like, we put"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":738.78,"endTime":741.5,"body":"in all this work for things, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":738.78,"endTime":741.5,"body":"we tend to think, like, okay,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":741.5,"endTime":744.56,"body":"cool. I did all the work. I got"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":741.5,"endTime":744.56,"body":"here. We saw it. Now it's like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":744.56,"endTime":747.56,"body":"no, actually, a lot of times in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":744.56,"endTime":747.56,"body":"life, that's when the fun really"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":747.56,"endTime":751.22,"body":"begins, and also when the work"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":747.56,"endTime":751.22,"body":"really begins. And then you do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":751.22,"endTime":754.64,"body":"all the scramble, and it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":751.22,"endTime":754.64,"body":"requires for you to do things"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":754.64,"endTime":757.64,"body":"with your body that you probably"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":754.64,"endTime":757.64,"body":"don't do in other hikes, and for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":757.64,"endTime":761.26,"body":"you to face your fears, and, you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":757.64,"endTime":761.26,"body":"know, work with others, and all"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":761.26,"endTime":764.38,"body":"these elements that, again, life"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":761.26,"endTime":764.38,"body":"also requires. And then when you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":764.38,"endTime":767.8,"body":"get to the summit, it is just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":764.38,"endTime":767.8,"body":"stunning, but you do have to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":767.8,"endTime":770.56,"body":"climb those boulders in order to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":767.8,"endTime":770.56,"body":"be able to get the full 360"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":770.92,"endTime":773.8,"body":"degree view, which not everybody"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":770.92,"endTime":773.8,"body":"does when they're at the summit."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":773.8,"endTime":777.58,"body":"And that's also kind of matching"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":773.8,"endTime":777.58,"body":"to life. And we all make it, but"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":777.58,"endTime":781.08,"body":"we all decide what we do with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":777.58,"endTime":781.08,"body":"it. And then the way down, the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":781.08,"endTime":784.5,"body":"way down is longer than the way"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":781.08,"endTime":784.5,"body":"up, and that also, I feel like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":784.74,"endTime":788.4,"body":"it matches with life a lot too."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":784.74,"endTime":788.4,"body":"This whole journey of old rag"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":788.52,"endTime":792.0,"body":"has been very healing for me,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":788.52,"endTime":792.0,"body":"and I've had a lot of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":792.0,"endTime":796.2,"body":"epiphanies. I've had a lot of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":792.0,"endTime":796.2,"body":"moments where I've been maybe"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":796.2,"endTime":799.2,"body":"struggling with something in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":796.2,"endTime":799.2,"body":"life, and I choose to go to old"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":799.2,"endTime":803.06,"body":"rag to work through it as I hike"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":799.2,"endTime":803.06,"body":"through it, I just knew that if"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":803.06,"endTime":806.72,"body":"I spent the whole year on that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":803.06,"endTime":806.72,"body":"specific mountain, that I would"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":806.72,"endTime":810.02,"body":"not regret it. There's other"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":806.72,"endTime":810.02,"body":"wonderful hikes I've done. You"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":810.02,"endTime":813.08,"body":"know, McAfee knob is one of my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":810.02,"endTime":813.08,"body":"favorite ones, but none of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":813.08,"endTime":816.86,"body":"other hikes that I've done so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":813.08,"endTime":816.86,"body":"far do for me and my soul. What"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":816.86,"endTime":820.84,"body":"old rock does. So yeah, that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":816.86,"endTime":820.84,"body":"why old York was had to be the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":820.84,"endTime":821.14,"body":"one"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":821.559,"endTime":824.259,"body":"that makes"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":821.559,"endTime":824.259,"body":"perfect sense to me, especially"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":824.439,"endTime":827.799,"body":"as somebody who has hiked old"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":824.439,"endTime":827.799,"body":"rag anybody who's been through"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":827.859,"endTime":831.639,"body":"the rock scramble and to the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":827.859,"endTime":831.639,"body":"fall summit and then beyond the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":831.639,"endTime":835.779,"body":"fall summit to the actual summit"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":831.639,"endTime":835.779,"body":"and down the fire road, probably"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":835.779,"endTime":838.779,"body":"is nodding their head right now"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":835.779,"endTime":838.779,"body":"going, Yeah, I could, I could"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":838.779,"endTime":841.619,"body":"see that. And when you and I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":838.779,"endTime":841.619,"body":"hiked it together. A few weeks"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":841.619,"endTime":846.239,"body":"ago, you were describing to me"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":841.619,"endTime":846.239,"body":"all the different ways in which"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":846.239,"endTime":848.939,"body":"you have hiked old rag and I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":846.239,"endTime":848.939,"body":"thought that was so smart,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":848.939,"endTime":852.239,"body":"because you're not doing exactly"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":848.939,"endTime":852.239,"body":"the same thing every time."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":852.239,"endTime":854.399,"body":"Sometimes you have different"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":852.239,"endTime":854.399,"body":"people with you. Sometimes"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":854.399,"endTime":857.519,"body":"you're completely by yourself."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":854.399,"endTime":857.519,"body":"Sometimes you were doing sunrise"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":857.519,"endTime":862.399,"body":"or sunset, and you had ways of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":857.519,"endTime":862.399,"body":"mixing it up so that it wasn't"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":862.399,"endTime":865.459,"body":"the same repetitive thing every"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":862.399,"endTime":865.459,"body":"single time. Can you talk a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":865.459,"endTime":866.659,"body":"little bit about that?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":866.719,"endTime":868.999,"body":"So again, I had a lot"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":866.719,"endTime":868.999,"body":"of time to plan this, which is"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":868.999,"endTime":871.879,"body":"good. When I started thinking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":868.999,"endTime":871.879,"body":"about it. I was like, All right,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":871.879,"endTime":875.599,"body":"how do I spice this up? Because"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":871.879,"endTime":875.599,"body":"I did. I did hear that, both in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":875.599,"endTime":878.119,"body":"my head and externally from"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":875.599,"endTime":878.119,"body":"other people, like, are you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":878.119,"endTime":880.959,"body":"gonna get bored of old guy? And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":878.119,"endTime":880.959,"body":"I was like, I don't think so,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":880.959,"endTime":884.199,"body":"but let's plan for it, just in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":880.959,"endTime":884.199,"body":"case. So I knew that I wanted to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":884.199,"endTime":887.859,"body":"do sunrise, I knew that I wanted"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":884.199,"endTime":887.859,"body":"to do sunset, which, at the time"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":887.979,"endTime":891.819,"body":"felt scary, because being in the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":887.979,"endTime":891.819,"body":"woods in the dark wasn't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":891.819,"endTime":894.639,"body":"something I was comfortable with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":891.819,"endTime":894.639,"body":"back then. Now I'm very"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":894.639,"endTime":898.359,"body":"comfortable, but back then I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":894.639,"endTime":898.359,"body":"wasn't. So I knew that, I knew"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":898.359,"endTime":901.139,"body":"that. So I'm part of an organ."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":898.359,"endTime":901.139,"body":"Organization, you know, girls"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":901.139,"endTime":905.099,"body":"hike Virginia, so I knew that I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":901.139,"endTime":905.099,"body":"wanted to facilitate hikes for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":905.099,"endTime":909.119,"body":"women who had never hiked it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":905.099,"endTime":909.119,"body":"before. That particular part of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":909.119,"endTime":912.959,"body":"the goal came out of a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":909.119,"endTime":912.959,"body":"friendship that I have with a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":912.959,"endTime":918.719,"body":"family friend who's in her 60s,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":912.959,"endTime":918.719,"body":"and during 2023 she asked me to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":918.719,"endTime":922.159,"body":"help her hike cold drag, and I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":918.719,"endTime":922.159,"body":"did so when I had that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":922.159,"endTime":925.819,"body":"experience with her in 2023 and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":922.159,"endTime":925.819,"body":"I was planning my 2024"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":926.299,"endTime":928.819,"body":"challenge, I knew that I wanted"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":926.299,"endTime":928.819,"body":"to have that feeling again of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":928.819,"endTime":931.999,"body":"helping someone else conquer"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":928.819,"endTime":931.999,"body":"that mountain. Because for some"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":931.999,"endTime":935.479,"body":"people, like my fiance, who grew"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":931.999,"endTime":935.479,"body":"up in Vermont, old rug, is not a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":935.479,"endTime":939.019,"body":"big deal. They just go do it in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":935.479,"endTime":939.019,"body":"their sneakers, shorts and like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":939.019,"endTime":942.339,"body":"they're good to go. For other"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":939.019,"endTime":942.339,"body":"people like me, it is a big"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":942.339,"endTime":945.759,"body":"deal. It's like this big,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":942.339,"endTime":945.759,"body":"monumental thing that you are"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":945.759,"endTime":949.299,"body":"not even sure if you can do. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":945.759,"endTime":949.299,"body":"so I wanted to reach out to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":949.299,"endTime":952.239,"body":"those women in the girls like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":949.299,"endTime":952.239,"body":"Virginia community, and tell"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":952.239,"endTime":954.999,"body":"them like, Hey, If this is your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":952.239,"endTime":954.999,"body":"goal, I want to do it with you."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":955.299,"endTime":958.419,"body":"So I knew that I was going to do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":955.299,"endTime":958.419,"body":"several hikes with them. I also"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":958.419,"endTime":962.519,"body":"knew that old rack could be done"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":958.419,"endTime":962.519,"body":"in different ways. So I learned"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":962.939,"endTime":966.839,"body":"to do it from the back way. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":962.939,"endTime":966.839,"body":"also gave myself permission to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":966.839,"endTime":970.619,"body":"treat the fall summit as a as a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":966.839,"endTime":970.619,"body":"summit, because it is, it's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":970.619,"endTime":973.799,"body":"still a very, you know,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":970.619,"endTime":973.799,"body":"challenging hike just to get to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":973.799,"endTime":977.099,"body":"the fall Summit. So I allowed"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":973.799,"endTime":977.099,"body":"myself to have that experience"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":977.099,"endTime":981.139,"body":"count, and then doing it to the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":977.099,"endTime":981.139,"body":"back way is probably one of my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":981.139,"endTime":984.379,"body":"favorite ways of hiking it now."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":981.139,"endTime":984.379,"body":"And I didn't even discover it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":984.379,"endTime":987.439,"body":"until halfway through the year"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":984.379,"endTime":987.439,"body":"that I could do it that way. You"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":987.439,"endTime":990.079,"body":"can actually hike it and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":987.439,"endTime":990.079,"body":"completely avoid the scramble,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":990.439,"endTime":993.739,"body":"which I thought was really cool"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":990.439,"endTime":993.739,"body":"too, because for some people,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":994.099,"endTime":997.459,"body":"that may be the limiting factor,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":994.099,"endTime":997.459,"body":"like the scramble section, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":997.459,"endTime":999.499,"body":"it's like, oh well, you can"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":997.459,"endTime":999.499,"body":"actually make it all the way to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":999.499,"endTime":1001.379,"body":"the assignment without even"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":999.499,"endTime":1001.379,"body":"touching the scramble. You're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1001.859,"endTime":1004.139,"body":"going to deal with different"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1001.859,"endTime":1004.139,"body":"challenges, but you can get"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1004.139,"endTime":1007.319,"body":"there. So yeah, a lot of that. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1004.139,"endTime":1007.319,"body":"also knew that I wanted to hike"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1007.319,"endTime":1011.519,"body":"it in different formats, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1007.319,"endTime":1011.519,"body":"also just to have fun, I did one"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1011.519,"endTime":1016.679,"body":"for Halloween. I love Halloween."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1011.519,"endTime":1016.679,"body":"And I had seen at the time"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1016.679,"endTime":1020.359,"body":"somewhere on like Instagram,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1016.679,"endTime":1020.359,"body":"like the sheet ghost, where you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1020.359,"endTime":1023.359,"body":"like, put on a sheet and put on"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1020.359,"endTime":1023.359,"body":"your sunglasses. So I had this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1023.359,"endTime":1026.479,"body":"idea that for for Halloween, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1023.359,"endTime":1026.479,"body":"would want to do a hike with my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1026.479,"endTime":1029.179,"body":"friends, and we would all carry"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1026.479,"endTime":1029.179,"body":"up our sheets and sunglasses so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1029.179,"endTime":1032.359,"body":"that we could do, like a photo"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1029.179,"endTime":1032.359,"body":"shoot at the top. And we did so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1032.359,"endTime":1035.179,"body":"just a few different ways of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1032.359,"endTime":1035.179,"body":"like, spicing it up and making"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1035.179,"endTime":1037.519,"body":"it more exciting, just hiking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1035.179,"endTime":1037.519,"body":"old drag every time,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1040.399,"endTime":1042.579,"body":"adventure"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1040.399,"endTime":1042.579,"body":"seekers will find endless"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1042.579,"endTime":1046.659,"body":"opportunities in Grayson County,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1042.579,"endTime":1046.659,"body":"where many of Virginia's iconic"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1046.659,"endTime":1050.679,"body":"trails and landmarks excite"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1046.659,"endTime":1050.679,"body":"hikers, cyclists, paddlers and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1050.679,"endTime":1054.459,"body":"happy campers alike. Imagine"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1050.679,"endTime":1054.459,"body":"this. You're hiking on one of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1054.459,"endTime":1057.759,"body":"the most scenic sections of the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1054.459,"endTime":1057.759,"body":"entire Appalachian Trail through"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1057.759,"endTime":1060.839,"body":"the George Washington and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1057.759,"endTime":1060.839,"body":"Jefferson National Forests,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1061.139,"endTime":1064.799,"body":"summiting mount Rogers or white"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1061.139,"endTime":1064.799,"body":"top mountain, the two highest"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1064.799,"endTime":1068.159,"body":"peaks in Virginia, or strolling"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1064.799,"endTime":1068.159,"body":"through the valley of elk"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1068.159,"endTime":1072.179,"body":"garden, where the now extinct"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1068.159,"endTime":1072.179,"body":"Eastern elk once roamed. Or"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1072.179,"endTime":1076.019,"body":"maybe your perfect day is on the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1072.179,"endTime":1076.019,"body":"water. Grayson County is home to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1076.019,"endTime":1079.139,"body":"the New River, one of the oldest"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1076.019,"endTime":1079.139,"body":"and most scenic rivers in the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1079.139,"endTime":1082.879,"body":"world. Enjoy a leisurely class"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1079.139,"endTime":1082.879,"body":"one float with the family or"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1082.879,"endTime":1086.839,"body":"adrenaline packed class three"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1082.879,"endTime":1086.839,"body":"rapids. Navigate the waters"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1086.839,"endTime":1090.259,"body":"using the New River float"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1086.839,"endTime":1090.259,"body":"calculator to plan your trip."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1090.499,"endTime":1094.219,"body":"The app factors flow rate, water"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1090.499,"endTime":1094.219,"body":"levels, weather conditions,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1094.219,"endTime":1097.639,"body":"vessel type and more to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1094.219,"endTime":1097.639,"body":"calculate flow times from point"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1097.639,"endTime":1102.159,"body":"A to point B. Prefer two wheels."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1097.639,"endTime":1102.159,"body":"You won't want to miss the grace"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1102.159,"endTime":1106.839,"body":"and gravel traverse a 72 mile"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1102.159,"endTime":1106.839,"body":"mixed surface gravel bike route"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1106.839,"endTime":1109.599,"body":"that connects the Virginia"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1106.839,"endTime":1109.599,"body":"Creeper trail and new river"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1109.599,"endTime":1113.919,"body":"trail over well maintained and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1109.599,"endTime":1113.919,"body":"remote roads featuring a variety"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1113.919,"endTime":1117.219,"body":"of challenging climbs in the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1113.919,"endTime":1117.219,"body":"foothills of Virginia's highest"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1117.219,"endTime":1120.959,"body":"peaks. This overlooked gem of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1117.219,"endTime":1120.959,"body":"Virginia presents some of the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1120.959,"endTime":1125.159,"body":"best gravel cycling in the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1120.959,"endTime":1125.159,"body":"state, mostly unwritten and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1125.159,"endTime":1128.939,"body":"undiscovered after a day of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1125.159,"endTime":1128.939,"body":"adventure, there's nothing like"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1128.939,"endTime":1132.299,"body":"gathering around a campfire"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1128.939,"endTime":1132.299,"body":"under a sky filled with stars."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1132.539,"endTime":1136.139,"body":"Grayson County offers plenty of"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1132.539,"endTime":1136.139,"body":"spots to pitch a tent like the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1136.139,"endTime":1140.339,"body":"New River campground or cozy up"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1136.139,"endTime":1140.339,"body":"in a rusted cabin at the buck"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1140.339,"endTime":1144.739,"body":"wild reserve. Discover why"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1140.339,"endTime":1144.739,"body":"Virginia is for outdoor lovers."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1144.739,"endTime":1148.099,"body":"Start your Grayson County"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1144.739,"endTime":1148.099,"body":"adventure at the historic 1908"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1148.399,"endTime":1152.179,"body":"courthouse and visitor center,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1148.399,"endTime":1152.179,"body":"or access the visitors guide"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1152.179,"endTime":1156.379,"body":"online by clicking on visit"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1152.179,"endTime":1156.379,"body":"Grayson County in the show notes"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1156.379,"endTime":1162.879,"body":"of your podcast listening app"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1156.379,"endTime":1162.879,"body":"that is super fun. And also,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1162.879,"endTime":1167.499,"body":"when you and I were at the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1162.879,"endTime":1167.499,"body":"summit together, you busted out"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1167.499,"endTime":1173.679,"body":"this hula hoop. I was like, What"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1167.499,"endTime":1173.679,"body":"are you doing? But by the end, I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1173.679,"endTime":1178.479,"body":"was absolutely sold on it. Can"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1173.679,"endTime":1178.479,"body":"you talk about what the hula"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1178.479,"endTime":1179.499,"body":"hoop is all about?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1179.68,"endTime":1182.58,"body":"So the hula hoop. I've"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1179.68,"endTime":1182.58,"body":"always loved hula hooping. It's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1182.58,"endTime":1185.64,"body":"one of those things. So I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1182.58,"endTime":1185.64,"body":"immigrated here from Peru, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1185.94,"endTime":1188.76,"body":"it's one of those things that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1185.94,"endTime":1188.76,"body":"just been with me my whole life."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1188.76,"endTime":1192.36,"body":"I've always been naturally good"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1188.76,"endTime":1192.36,"body":"at it. I've always kept it with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1192.36,"endTime":1195.48,"body":"me, like I've always owned a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1192.36,"endTime":1195.48,"body":"hula hoop. Now it's like a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1195.48,"endTime":1198.18,"body":"workout hula hoop that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1195.48,"endTime":1198.18,"body":"weighted, so not like the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1198.18,"endTime":1200.78,"body":"traditional ones, but I've"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1198.18,"endTime":1200.78,"body":"always had it. I've always loved"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1200.78,"endTime":1203.36,"body":"it, and I've gone through my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1200.78,"endTime":1203.36,"body":"seasons of like, years of not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1203.36,"endTime":1205.94,"body":"touching it, and then I do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1203.36,"endTime":1205.94,"body":"right? It all depends on, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1205.94,"endTime":1210.2,"body":"where I am in life. And a few"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1205.94,"endTime":1210.2,"body":"years ago, I did this group"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1210.2,"endTime":1214.4,"body":"coaching sessions where the girl"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1210.2,"endTime":1214.4,"body":"who leads it teaches about"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1214.4,"endTime":1217.88,"body":"pleasure stacking, and she talks"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1214.4,"endTime":1217.88,"body":"about, like, when you find"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1217.88,"endTime":1220.84,"body":"something that you enjoy doing,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1217.88,"endTime":1220.84,"body":"for example, walking, if you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1220.84,"endTime":1223.84,"body":"love walking, how can you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1220.84,"endTime":1223.84,"body":"pleasure stack on top of that?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1224.14,"endTime":1227.2,"body":"Perhaps you also love learning."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1224.14,"endTime":1227.2,"body":"So you can make sure you set up,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1227.26,"endTime":1230.02,"body":"set up like your favorite"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1227.26,"endTime":1230.02,"body":"podcast the night before, so you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1230.02,"endTime":1233.44,"body":"can listen to it. Perhaps you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1230.02,"endTime":1233.44,"body":"love photography, so as you're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1233.44,"endTime":1235.84,"body":"going on your walk, you bring"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1233.44,"endTime":1235.84,"body":"your camera and you search for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1235.84,"endTime":1240.18,"body":"cool pictures to take. So I took"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1235.84,"endTime":1240.18,"body":"that, and for me, it's more"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1240.18,"endTime":1243.06,"body":"value stacking than pleasure"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1240.18,"endTime":1243.06,"body":"stacking. That's just that just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1243.06,"endTime":1246.3,"body":"feels better for me. And I took"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1243.06,"endTime":1246.3,"body":"that, and I've been working on"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1246.3,"endTime":1248.88,"body":"that for years. So when I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1246.3,"endTime":1248.88,"body":"started hiking and loving"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1248.88,"endTime":1252.12,"body":"hiking, I started applying that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1248.88,"endTime":1252.12,"body":"mindset to it, and I was like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1252.12,"endTime":1255.3,"body":"All right, so if I'm going to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1252.12,"endTime":1255.3,"body":"eat on my hike, I'm going to eat"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1255.3,"endTime":1258.06,"body":"something that I love eating,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1255.3,"endTime":1258.06,"body":"right? If I'm going to have"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1258.06,"endTime":1261.08,"body":"sugar on my hikes, because it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1258.06,"endTime":1261.08,"body":"helps with my energy, I'm gonna"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1261.08,"endTime":1263.66,"body":"have, like, my favorite"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1261.08,"endTime":1263.66,"body":"chocolate. I'm gonna have, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1263.78,"endTime":1266.48,"body":"I'm gonna make myself chocolate"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1263.78,"endTime":1266.48,"body":"covered strawberries, and like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1266.48,"endTime":1270.62,"body":"really elevate the experience."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1266.48,"endTime":1270.62,"body":"And then came the idea of, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1270.62,"endTime":1273.5,"body":"hula hooping. I was like, Well,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1270.62,"endTime":1273.5,"body":"I love hula hooping, and I love"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1273.5,"endTime":1276.56,"body":"hiking. How cool would it be to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1273.5,"endTime":1276.56,"body":"hula hoop on summits of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1276.56,"endTime":1280.6,"body":"mountains? Why not? And why not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1276.56,"endTime":1280.6,"body":"do it while the sun is rising or"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1280.6,"endTime":1284.2,"body":"setting and do it with your best"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1280.6,"endTime":1284.2,"body":"friends, and doing it listening"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1284.2,"endTime":1286.96,"body":"to your favorite song, and it's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1284.2,"endTime":1286.96,"body":"just, it's this mindset that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1286.96,"endTime":1290.98,"body":"just allows you to continue just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1286.96,"endTime":1290.98,"body":"building and building the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1290.98,"endTime":1294.52,"body":"happiness pretty much. So that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1290.98,"endTime":1294.52,"body":"where that came from. The first"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1294.52,"endTime":1297.76,"body":"time I did it, I was nervous"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1294.52,"endTime":1297.76,"body":"because I was like, people are"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1297.76,"endTime":1301.32,"body":"gonna think I'm crazy. But then"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1297.76,"endTime":1301.32,"body":"I think the first time I did it,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1301.32,"endTime":1305.34,"body":"I was doing it, and someone came"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1301.32,"endTime":1305.34,"body":"out of like it was at the summit"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1305.34,"endTime":1308.28,"body":"of old rag, and someone came"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1305.34,"endTime":1308.28,"body":"out, and it was like, Oh, my"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1308.28,"endTime":1311.94,"body":"God, I love hula hooping. Can I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1308.28,"endTime":1311.94,"body":"borrow it? I was like, yes. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1312.0,"endTime":1314.28,"body":"so they borrowed it. And then"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1312.0,"endTime":1314.28,"body":"some of the girls that I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1314.28,"endTime":1317.1,"body":"with, they also started doing"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1314.28,"endTime":1317.1,"body":"it. And I was like, Oh, I'm"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1317.1,"endTime":1320.46,"body":"sharing the happiness that this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1317.1,"endTime":1320.46,"body":"brings to me with other people."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1320.52,"endTime":1324.08,"body":"So now I don't always bring it,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1320.52,"endTime":1324.08,"body":"but when I do bring it, I take"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1324.08,"endTime":1327.44,"body":"it out. People end up enjoying"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1324.08,"endTime":1327.44,"body":"doing it, and it just spreads"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1327.44,"endTime":1330.2,"body":"the happiness. So that's where"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1327.44,"endTime":1330.2,"body":"the hula hoop comes from."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1330.98,"endTime":1333.5,"body":"Yeah, that day"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1330.98,"endTime":1333.5,"body":"that you and I were up there, so"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1333.5,"endTime":1337.16,"body":"it was a holiday weekend, and it"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1333.5,"endTime":1337.16,"body":"was a fee free day in the park,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1337.16,"endTime":1340.3,"body":"so we knew there was going to be"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1337.16,"endTime":1340.3,"body":"a lot of people. And there were,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1340.3,"endTime":1342.76,"body":"there were a lot of people at"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1340.3,"endTime":1342.76,"body":"the summit, and when you pulled"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1342.76,"endTime":1346.24,"body":"it out, I was really interested"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1342.76,"endTime":1346.24,"body":"in seeing what the reactions"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1346.24,"endTime":1349.78,"body":"were going to be. And the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1346.24,"endTime":1349.78,"body":"majority of the people are so"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1349.78,"endTime":1352.72,"body":"busy, you know, having their own"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1349.78,"endTime":1352.72,"body":"moments, that they're not paying"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1352.72,"endTime":1355.72,"body":"attention to what you or anybody"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1352.72,"endTime":1355.72,"body":"else is doing, right? But there"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1355.72,"endTime":1359.56,"body":"were people who came up and were"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1355.72,"endTime":1359.56,"body":"like, can I try that? Or one"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1359.56,"endTime":1362.4,"body":"woman said to you like she"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1359.56,"endTime":1362.4,"body":"hadn't done it in years and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1362.4,"endTime":1366.66,"body":"years, and just wanted to, like,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1362.4,"endTime":1366.66,"body":"try it again, and she was so"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1366.66,"endTime":1370.14,"body":"happy when you gave her that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1366.66,"endTime":1370.14,"body":"hula hoop. And whoever was with"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1370.14,"endTime":1372.54,"body":"her, I don't know if they were"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1370.14,"endTime":1372.54,"body":"family or friends, but, you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1372.54,"endTime":1375.6,"body":"know, they're taking pictures,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1372.54,"endTime":1375.6,"body":"and they're loving it too, and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1375.6,"endTime":1378.54,"body":"everybody was so into it. And"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1375.6,"endTime":1378.54,"body":"you're right, it was just like,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1378.54,"endTime":1380.66,"body":"spreading the happiness. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1378.54,"endTime":1380.66,"body":"because,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1380.66,"endTime":1382.52,"body":"I mean, you're going to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1380.66,"endTime":1382.52,"body":"be at the summit, typically,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1382.52,"endTime":1384.44,"body":"you're going to hang out there,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1382.52,"endTime":1384.44,"body":"you're going to be eating,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1384.44,"endTime":1387.74,"body":"you're going to be taking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1384.44,"endTime":1387.74,"body":"pictures. So it's like, why not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1387.74,"endTime":1390.62,"body":"bring it? I currently live in a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1387.74,"endTime":1390.62,"body":"space where, like, I don't have"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1390.62,"endTime":1393.98,"body":"a lot of space in my house to be"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1390.62,"endTime":1393.98,"body":"hula hooping, so I have to take"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1393.98,"endTime":1396.74,"body":"it outside in order to use it."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1393.98,"endTime":1396.74,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1396.74,"endTime":1399.14,"body":"that was a lot"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1396.74,"endTime":1399.14,"body":"of fun. And then, of course, I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1399.14,"endTime":1401.86,"body":"got to try it. I don't think"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1399.14,"endTime":1401.86,"body":"I've hula hoop since, like,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1401.92,"endTime":1405.58,"body":"elementary school gym class. I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1401.92,"endTime":1405.58,"body":"can't remember another time that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1405.58,"endTime":1408.58,"body":"I've done it. And I didn't think"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1405.58,"endTime":1408.58,"body":"I would be able to, but I picked"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1408.58,"endTime":1411.88,"body":"it up and it worked. I was like,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1408.58,"endTime":1411.88,"body":"Holy crap, I'm doing this."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1413.26,"endTime":1416.32,"body":"You are. It feels fun."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1413.26,"endTime":1416.32,"body":"It's like, yeah, yeah. So it's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1416.32,"endTime":1418.66,"body":"all the whole idea is, like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1416.32,"endTime":1418.66,"body":"movement, you know, it's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1418.66,"endTime":1421.74,"body":"whatever feels good to you."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1418.66,"endTime":1421.74,"body":"Because I've learned for myself,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1421.74,"endTime":1424.68,"body":"like, I can't do the gym. Maybe"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1421.74,"endTime":1424.68,"body":"one day the gym will be fun for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1424.68,"endTime":1427.8,"body":"me, but it's not today. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1424.68,"endTime":1427.8,"body":"that's why hiking, hula hooping,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1428.04,"endTime":1432.0,"body":"I recently got myself a little"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1428.04,"endTime":1432.0,"body":"trampoline. So I'm just like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1432.12,"endTime":1434.7,"body":"I'm like, even in order to move,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1432.12,"endTime":1434.7,"body":"because I know that I want to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1434.7,"endTime":1437.04,"body":"move and it's good for me, it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1434.7,"endTime":1437.04,"body":"needs to be thoroughly"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1437.04,"endTime":1439.74,"body":"enjoyable, otherwise it's not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1437.04,"endTime":1439.74,"body":"going to work. No,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1439.74,"endTime":1441.74,"body":"I totally hear"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1439.74,"endTime":1441.74,"body":"you on that. I feel the same way"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1441.74,"endTime":1445.34,"body":"about the gym. I mean, I go to"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1441.74,"endTime":1445.34,"body":"the gym, but I'm not happy to be"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1445.34,"endTime":1447.74,"body":"there. It's more like something"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1445.34,"endTime":1447.74,"body":"that I'm powering through to get"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1447.74,"endTime":1450.5,"body":"it over with, because I know"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1447.74,"endTime":1450.5,"body":"that it's good for me, and maybe"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1450.5,"endTime":1453.62,"body":"there's not another option for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1450.5,"endTime":1453.62,"body":"me that day, but anything that I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1453.62,"endTime":1456.2,"body":"can do outside completely"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1453.62,"endTime":1456.2,"body":"changes the experience. Like"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1456.2,"endTime":1459.5,"body":"now, I even do my yoga outside,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1456.2,"endTime":1459.5,"body":"and, you know, in the mornings,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1459.74,"endTime":1462.52,"body":"and that is totally different"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1459.74,"endTime":1462.52,"body":"than doing it in my living room."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1462.52,"endTime":1466.66,"body":"So, yeah, it's like, it changes"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1462.52,"endTime":1466.66,"body":"everything, and if it gets you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1466.66,"endTime":1470.86,"body":"excited to do it, then the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1466.66,"endTime":1470.86,"body":"motivation will stick too. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1471.16,"endTime":1473.5,"body":"And another thing you did while"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1471.16,"endTime":1473.5,"body":"we were there that I really"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1473.5,"endTime":1477.4,"body":"loved is you talked about taking"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1473.5,"endTime":1477.4,"body":"off your shoes so that you could"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1477.4,"endTime":1481.08,"body":"actually, like, feel the earth"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1477.4,"endTime":1481.08,"body":"under your feet and connecting"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1481.08,"endTime":1484.68,"body":"in that moment. And I never"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1481.08,"endTime":1484.68,"body":"thought to do that. Of all the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1484.68,"endTime":1487.8,"body":"years that I've been hiking and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1484.68,"endTime":1487.8,"body":"spending time outside, like,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1487.8,"endTime":1491.1,"body":"Sure, I'll take my shoes off if"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1487.8,"endTime":1491.1,"body":"I'm at the beach or, you know,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1491.1,"endTime":1495.06,"body":"some other special place, but at"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1491.1,"endTime":1495.06,"body":"a summit, like it never occurred"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1495.06,"endTime":1498.12,"body":"to me to do that. What made you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1495.06,"endTime":1498.12,"body":"think to do something like that?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1498.24,"endTime":1500.96,"body":"I went on a hike with a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1498.24,"endTime":1500.96,"body":"fellow. Ambassador for girls"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1500.96,"endTime":1503.78,"body":"like Virginia, and she actually"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1500.96,"endTime":1503.78,"body":"hosts one of my favorite hike."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1503.78,"endTime":1508.64,"body":"Her boyfriend is a geologist. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1503.78,"endTime":1508.64,"body":"they host geology hikes across"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1508.64,"endTime":1513.02,"body":"Virginia. And I went on their"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1508.64,"endTime":1513.02,"body":"old rag geology hike, which was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1513.02,"endTime":1517.16,"body":"amazing. But when we were at the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1513.02,"endTime":1517.16,"body":"summit, I had already, for some"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1517.16,"endTime":1520.24,"body":"reason, I've already, I've been"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1517.16,"endTime":1520.24,"body":"into grounding, which is, you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1520.24,"endTime":1524.14,"body":"know the practice of having your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1520.24,"endTime":1524.14,"body":"feet touch the bare earth for a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1524.14,"endTime":1527.2,"body":"while? And I asked her we were"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1524.14,"endTime":1527.2,"body":"at the summit. I was like, hey,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1527.2,"endTime":1529.84,"body":"you know all this like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1527.2,"endTime":1529.84,"body":"scrambling that we just did with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1529.84,"endTime":1534.04,"body":"our bare hands, does that also"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1529.84,"endTime":1534.04,"body":"do the same thing as grounding?"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1534.04,"endTime":1536.68,"body":"And she said, No, it doesn't,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1534.04,"endTime":1536.68,"body":"because it has to be through"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1536.68,"endTime":1539.98,"body":"your feet. And I was like, Okay."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1536.68,"endTime":1539.98,"body":"And she goes, but you can take"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1539.98,"endTime":1542.82,"body":"off your shoes right now. And I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1539.98,"endTime":1542.82,"body":"was like, I can't. I was like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1542.88,"endTime":1545.88,"body":"Oh yeah, I can. We're gonna hang"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1542.88,"endTime":1545.88,"body":"out at the summit anyway. She"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1545.94,"endTime":1548.58,"body":"explained to me how, like, even"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1545.94,"endTime":1548.58,"body":"though you are on top of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1548.58,"endTime":1551.16,"body":"mountain, you're still grounding"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1548.58,"endTime":1551.16,"body":"because it's directly connected"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1551.16,"endTime":1553.98,"body":"to the earth. So I did it for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1551.16,"endTime":1553.98,"body":"the first time, and I actually"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1553.98,"endTime":1558.0,"body":"ended up climbing boulders"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1553.98,"endTime":1558.0,"body":"barefoot, which was again, as"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1558.0,"endTime":1561.44,"body":"I'm doing and I'm like, What am"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1558.0,"endTime":1561.44,"body":"I doing? Is this is crazy, but"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1561.44,"endTime":1564.92,"body":"it actually became really,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1561.44,"endTime":1564.92,"body":"really fun. Again. It elevated"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1564.92,"endTime":1568.28,"body":"the experience. And now I do it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1564.92,"endTime":1568.28,"body":"pretty much every time. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1568.28,"endTime":1570.32,"body":"haven't done it the last few"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1568.28,"endTime":1570.32,"body":"times because we're in the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1570.32,"endTime":1574.04,"body":"middle of winter and it's really"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1570.32,"endTime":1574.04,"body":"cold, but if the temperature is"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1574.04,"endTime":1577.28,"body":"decent, I'm taking off my shoes,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1574.04,"endTime":1577.28,"body":"and then I spent like, you know,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1577.4,"endTime":1581.26,"body":"1520 minutes up there, sometimes"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1577.4,"endTime":1581.26,"body":"hula hooping, well, barefoot,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1581.26,"endTime":1584.74,"body":"I've gotten some of my friends"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1581.26,"endTime":1584.74,"body":"to start doing it, too, and what"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1584.74,"endTime":1587.38,"body":"ends up happening is one, you're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1584.74,"endTime":1587.38,"body":"grounding, and people can look"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1587.38,"endTime":1590.62,"body":"up the all the benefits for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1587.38,"endTime":1590.62,"body":"that, but when you put back your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1590.62,"endTime":1593.86,"body":"shoes, it almost feels like your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1590.62,"endTime":1593.86,"body":"feet got like a massage or"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1593.86,"endTime":1597.88,"body":"something, and they're not as"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1593.86,"endTime":1597.88,"body":"tired as they were before, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1597.94,"endTime":1601.38,"body":"now you're ready to go on the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1597.94,"endTime":1601.38,"body":"way down. And I've actually also"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1601.38,"endTime":1604.86,"body":"done it on the way down in old"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1601.38,"endTime":1604.86,"body":"rag towards the end, you pass a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1604.86,"endTime":1607.86,"body":"few little creeks, and we've"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1604.86,"endTime":1607.86,"body":"done that before in the summer,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1607.86,"endTime":1610.8,"body":"where we take off our shoes and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1607.86,"endTime":1610.8,"body":"go into the creek. That also"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1610.8,"endTime":1614.16,"body":"feels fantastic, because you're"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1610.8,"endTime":1614.16,"body":"right right before the car. So"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1614.16,"endTime":1616.8,"body":"again, your feet, if you like"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1614.16,"endTime":1616.8,"body":"water there, is always going to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1616.8,"endTime":1620.22,"body":"be cold. So it's just like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1616.8,"endTime":1620.22,"body":"fantastic. It feels phenomenal."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1620.22,"endTime":1622.7,"body":"And then you just walk to your"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1620.22,"endTime":1622.7,"body":"car and your feet just feel"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1622.7,"endTime":1623.72,"body":"really good. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1623.72,"endTime":1626.24,"body":"yeah. So you're"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1623.72,"endTime":1626.24,"body":"having a spa experience too,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1626.66,"endTime":1631.4,"body":"before you get in your car to go"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1626.66,"endTime":1631.4,"body":"home. Yes. So what challenges"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1631.4,"endTime":1634.88,"body":"have you faced in reaching your"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1631.4,"endTime":1634.88,"body":"goal? I'm sure there has to be"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1634.88,"endTime":1635.6,"body":"several. The"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1635.72,"endTime":1639.14,"body":"first one that comes to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1635.72,"endTime":1639.14,"body":"mind is the summer. The Summer"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1639.14,"endTime":1643.06,"body":"kicked my butt. So I've learned"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1639.14,"endTime":1643.06,"body":"again, I've only been avidly"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1643.06,"endTime":1646.66,"body":"hiking for the last two years"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1643.06,"endTime":1646.66,"body":"now, I've learned that I do not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1646.66,"endTime":1650.2,"body":"like hiking in the summer."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1646.66,"endTime":1650.2,"body":"Mosquitoes love me, and the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1650.2,"endTime":1654.7,"body":"ticks and all the bugs, and it's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1650.2,"endTime":1654.7,"body":"uncomfortable, and there's only"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1654.7,"endTime":1657.88,"body":"so much you can do. Your water"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1654.7,"endTime":1657.88,"body":"doesn't stay as cold as you want"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1657.88,"endTime":1661.38,"body":"it to be. I need my water to be"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1657.88,"endTime":1661.38,"body":"ice cold all the time, so I hate"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1661.38,"endTime":1665.1,"body":"it, and I did know that ahead of"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1661.38,"endTime":1665.1,"body":"time. I knew that summer was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1665.1,"endTime":1669.06,"body":"going to be rough, so I planned"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1665.1,"endTime":1669.06,"body":"for it, and I planned on doing a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1669.06,"endTime":1673.68,"body":"lot of sunrise hikes for summer."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1669.06,"endTime":1673.68,"body":"But what I didn't understand was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1673.92,"endTime":1678.24,"body":"that I didn't currently have a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1673.92,"endTime":1678.24,"body":"good process for sleeping the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1678.24,"endTime":1681.14,"body":"night before sunrise, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1678.24,"endTime":1681.14,"body":"actually still don't have a good"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1681.14,"endTime":1683.66,"body":"process, because I did this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1681.14,"endTime":1683.66,"body":"yesterday and only slept two and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1683.66,"endTime":1686.84,"body":"a half hours. As I started going"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1683.66,"endTime":1686.84,"body":"into summer and planning all the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1686.84,"endTime":1691.22,"body":"sunrise hikes, I was doing them,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1686.84,"endTime":1691.22,"body":"and within, like, a few weeks, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1691.58,"endTime":1696.56,"body":"burnt myself out. I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1691.58,"endTime":1696.56,"body":"exhausted. I had some great"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1696.56,"endTime":1700.48,"body":"pictures, but like, I just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1696.56,"endTime":1700.48,"body":"couldn't do it. So then I got"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1700.48,"endTime":1702.76,"body":"overwhelmed with work, just a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1700.48,"endTime":1702.76,"body":"bunch of different things"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1702.76,"endTime":1706.36,"body":"happen, and I stopped hiking for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1702.76,"endTime":1706.36,"body":"like, two months. So then I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1706.36,"endTime":1709.12,"body":"already a little bit behind,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1706.36,"endTime":1709.12,"body":"like the goal of hiking three"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1709.12,"endTime":1712.72,"body":"times a month. I think I only"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1709.12,"endTime":1712.72,"body":"did that for the first two"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1712.72,"endTime":1715.54,"body":"months, two three months of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1712.72,"endTime":1715.54,"body":"year, and then, boom, I fell"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1715.54,"endTime":1719.26,"body":"behind. There were fires that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1715.54,"endTime":1719.26,"body":"happened in Shenandoah in March,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1719.26,"endTime":1722.94,"body":"so those affected my hiking."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1719.26,"endTime":1722.94,"body":"Then the summer came and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1722.94,"endTime":1726.06,"body":"affected my hiking. Honestly,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1722.94,"endTime":1726.06,"body":"just dealing with the stressors"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1726.06,"endTime":1730.8,"body":"of life, I realized that when"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1726.06,"endTime":1730.8,"body":"life gets stressed, when work"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1730.8,"endTime":1733.98,"body":"gets stressed, all that stuff"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1730.8,"endTime":1733.98,"body":"happens, hiking tends to be one"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1733.98,"endTime":1736.08,"body":"of the first things that I put"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1733.98,"endTime":1736.08,"body":"on the back shelf. You know,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1736.08,"endTime":1738.54,"body":"when you're having a hiking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1736.08,"endTime":1738.54,"body":"challenge, it's like, really"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1738.54,"endTime":1741.02,"body":"hard, because it's like, Oh"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1738.54,"endTime":1741.02,"body":"wait, no, but it was good."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1741.02,"endTime":1744.56,"body":"Actually, the hiking challenge"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1741.02,"endTime":1744.56,"body":"made me be more aware of the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1744.56,"endTime":1748.1,"body":"fact that I was putting hiking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1744.56,"endTime":1748.1,"body":"in the back shelf, and pushed me"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1748.1,"endTime":1751.88,"body":"to take it out. But yeah, so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1748.1,"endTime":1751.88,"body":"managing my scheduled hikes and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1751.88,"endTime":1755.42,"body":"having to restructure it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1751.88,"endTime":1755.42,"body":"whenever life would happen and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1755.42,"endTime":1758.48,"body":"continuing trying to reach the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1755.42,"endTime":1758.48,"body":"36 that was that was the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1758.48,"endTime":1761.86,"body":"challenging part. Was just not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1758.48,"endTime":1761.86,"body":"being able to hike for certain"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1761.86,"endTime":1764.74,"body":"periods of time, and then"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1761.86,"endTime":1764.74,"body":"realizing how behind I was, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1764.74,"endTime":1766.0,"body":"then working on catching up,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1766.06,"endTime":1768.34,"body":"I'm sure,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1766.06,"endTime":1768.34,"body":"especially, okay, so you live in"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1768.34,"endTime":1771.4,"body":"Northern Virginia, and so how"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1768.34,"endTime":1771.4,"body":"long is the drive for you to get"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1771.4,"endTime":1773.98,"body":"to old rags like, an hour and a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1771.4,"endTime":1773.98,"body":"half. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1773.98,"endTime":1776.2,"body":"it's an hour and 20"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1773.98,"endTime":1776.2,"body":"minutes, but I always want to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1776.2,"endTime":1778.6,"body":"stop and get gas and do all that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1776.2,"endTime":1778.6,"body":"stuff. So yeah, hour and a"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1778.6,"endTime":1781.92,"body":"half. Yeah. So"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1778.6,"endTime":1781.92,"body":"I'm sure that just that alone"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1781.98,"endTime":1785.7,"body":"would be for a lot of people,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1781.98,"endTime":1785.7,"body":"enough to make them think I'm"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1785.88,"endTime":1788.46,"body":"not going to bother because I'm"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1785.88,"endTime":1788.46,"body":"going to spend three hours in"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1788.46,"endTime":1791.76,"body":"the car today just to do this"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1788.46,"endTime":1791.76,"body":"hike. So I guess you must have"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1791.76,"endTime":1794.94,"body":"to factor that in. When you're"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1791.76,"endTime":1794.94,"body":"deciding to do this. Are you"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1794.94,"endTime":1798.0,"body":"willing to spend that time going"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1794.94,"endTime":1798.0,"body":"back and forth as well? Yes,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1798.0,"endTime":1801.32,"body":"the time also, and then"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1798.0,"endTime":1801.32,"body":"the. Ticketing. So, you know,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1801.32,"endTime":1804.38,"body":"old rag requires tickets. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1801.32,"endTime":1804.38,"body":"believe it's from like March to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1804.38,"endTime":1807.68,"body":"November, that when they first"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1804.38,"endTime":1807.68,"body":"started with the ticketing"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1807.68,"endTime":1812.18,"body":"process, I completely, and I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1807.68,"endTime":1812.18,"body":"still fully support it, but it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1812.18,"endTime":1814.82,"body":"became a struggle for me,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1812.18,"endTime":1814.82,"body":"because what I realized was,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1814.82,"endTime":1817.64,"body":"let's say, I had plans with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1814.82,"endTime":1817.64,"body":"friends on a Sunday, so I wasn't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1817.64,"endTime":1821.02,"body":"going to hike old rag that day,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1817.64,"endTime":1821.02,"body":"and then the plans fell through"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1821.02,"endTime":1823.84,"body":"on that Friday. Well, guess"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1821.02,"endTime":1823.84,"body":"what? The tickets are already"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1823.84,"endTime":1827.68,"body":"sold out, so I can't go hike it."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1823.84,"endTime":1827.68,"body":"So that was another issue. Was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1827.74,"endTime":1829.84,"body":"there were days where I could"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1827.74,"endTime":1829.84,"body":"have gone to hike it that I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1829.84,"endTime":1832.6,"body":"wasn't able to because I didn't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1829.84,"endTime":1832.6,"body":"have the tickets. So that became"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1832.6,"endTime":1836.02,"body":"a thing. There were also times"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1832.6,"endTime":1836.02,"body":"where, like, I would buy tickets"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1836.08,"endTime":1839.2,"body":"and then not be able to hike it,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1836.08,"endTime":1839.2,"body":"but then I learned you could"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1839.2,"endTime":1842.34,"body":"actually transfer your tickets"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1839.2,"endTime":1842.34,"body":"to a different date. So that was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1842.34,"endTime":1844.44,"body":"good, because I learned"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1842.34,"endTime":1844.44,"body":"something about their system."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1844.5,"endTime":1848.58,"body":"Yeah, I did get a few tickets"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1844.5,"endTime":1848.58,"body":"driving to old rag at the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1848.58,"endTime":1852.0,"body":"beginning of the year, and I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1848.58,"endTime":1852.0,"body":"also did have a minor bump in"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1852.0,"endTime":1855.42,"body":"with a little deer that he did"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1852.0,"endTime":1855.42,"body":"get up and walk away. But that"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1855.42,"endTime":1858.24,"body":"happened like the tickets and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1855.42,"endTime":1858.24,"body":"the deer happened in the first"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1858.24,"endTime":1861.68,"body":"month of hiking old rag this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1858.24,"endTime":1861.68,"body":"year. And I was like, oh my god,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1861.68,"endTime":1864.2,"body":"is this house gonna go? But"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1861.68,"endTime":1864.2,"body":"thankfully, it didn't. That was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1864.2,"endTime":1867.26,"body":"all that I saw that was negative"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1864.2,"endTime":1867.26,"body":"when I was driving there. Well,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1867.26,"endTime":1869.06,"body":"luckily that"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1867.26,"endTime":1869.06,"body":"wasn't enough to make you throw"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1869.06,"endTime":1873.8,"body":"up your hands and say, forget"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1869.06,"endTime":1873.8,"body":"it. I'm not doing I mean, did"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1873.8,"endTime":1876.38,"body":"any at any point? Did you ever"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1873.8,"endTime":1876.38,"body":"think you might not reach your"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1876.38,"endTime":1877.52,"body":"goal? No,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1877.52,"endTime":1881.56,"body":"because I know myself,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1877.52,"endTime":1881.56,"body":"and I know that I'm pretty"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1881.56,"endTime":1885.7,"body":"stubborn, and especially when it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1881.56,"endTime":1885.7,"body":"has to do with something where"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1886.0,"endTime":1889.54,"body":"the world is aware. Like if I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1886.0,"endTime":1889.54,"body":"had done this challenge and no"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1889.54,"endTime":1892.84,"body":"one had known that I was doing"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1889.54,"endTime":1892.84,"body":"it 100% I would have thrown the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1892.84,"endTime":1896.68,"body":"towel probably 10 different"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1892.84,"endTime":1896.68,"body":"times. But I knew that about"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1896.68,"endTime":1900.04,"body":"myself, so when I was planning"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1896.68,"endTime":1900.04,"body":"my challenge, I went ahead, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1900.04,"endTime":1902.94,"body":"I was like, Alright, how am I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1900.04,"endTime":1902.94,"body":"going to create accountability"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1902.94,"endTime":1905.4,"body":"for myself? And let's not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1902.94,"endTime":1905.4,"body":"pretend we're not who we are,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1905.4,"endTime":1908.16,"body":"because we are. So I knew for"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1905.4,"endTime":1908.16,"body":"myself that when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1908.16,"endTime":1911.82,"body":"accountability, I need somebody"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1908.16,"endTime":1911.82,"body":"else to be aware of what's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1911.82,"endTime":1914.94,"body":"happening. So for me, I made"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1911.82,"endTime":1914.94,"body":"sure, like I was telling"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1914.94,"endTime":1918.48,"body":"everybody in my life that I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1914.94,"endTime":1918.48,"body":"doing that also through our"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1918.48,"endTime":1921.32,"body":"group of girls like Virginia, we"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1918.48,"endTime":1921.32,"body":"have a Facebook group, and I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1921.32,"endTime":1923.78,"body":"went ahead and I posted it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1921.32,"endTime":1923.78,"body":"there. When I went on my first"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1923.78,"endTime":1927.2,"body":"hike of the year, which I did it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1923.78,"endTime":1927.2,"body":"on the first day of the year, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1927.2,"endTime":1930.26,"body":"posted it, and I was like,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1927.2,"endTime":1930.26,"body":"here's my first hike of the 36"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1930.74,"endTime":1934.46,"body":"and I, like, told our 30,000"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1930.74,"endTime":1934.46,"body":"members that I was doing this"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1934.46,"endTime":1937.64,"body":"challenge. So that made it so"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1934.46,"endTime":1937.64,"body":"that I had that peer pressure,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1938.0,"endTime":1940.66,"body":"and I knew that I was gonna have"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1938.0,"endTime":1940.66,"body":"to figure out how to do it. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1940.66,"endTime":1944.92,"body":"think around September, I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1940.66,"endTime":1944.92,"body":"really stressing because I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1944.92,"endTime":1949.24,"body":"really behind on my hikes, but I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1944.92,"endTime":1949.24,"body":"knew that I had to do it. I went"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1949.24,"endTime":1951.94,"body":"on a hike with a friend, a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1949.24,"endTime":1951.94,"body":"different hike, not not old"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1951.94,"endTime":1955.78,"body":"drag. And I remember her being"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1951.94,"endTime":1955.78,"body":"like, oh, what number are you"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1955.78,"endTime":1959.5,"body":"at? And I was like, I'm really"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1955.78,"endTime":1959.5,"body":"behind. I'm at this number. And"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1959.5,"endTime":1961.68,"body":"she goes like, oh, but that's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1959.5,"endTime":1961.68,"body":"okay, you know, if you don't"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1961.68,"endTime":1964.2,"body":"need it, it's still really cool"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1961.68,"endTime":1964.2,"body":"that you've hiked it this many"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1964.2,"endTime":1967.92,"body":"times. And I looked at her, and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1964.2,"endTime":1967.92,"body":"I was like, no, like, I have to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1967.92,"endTime":1972.36,"body":"do it. I have to do it. I will"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1967.92,"endTime":1972.36,"body":"not. I could not live with"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1972.36,"endTime":1975.9,"body":"myself. I've told the whole"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1972.36,"endTime":1975.9,"body":"world I'm doing this, which to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1975.9,"endTime":1979.68,"body":"me, you know, my whole world is"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1975.9,"endTime":1979.68,"body":"that, that group that I have. I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1979.68,"endTime":1982.34,"body":"was like, I cannot. I cannot"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1979.68,"endTime":1982.34,"body":"live with that shame. It's just"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1982.4,"endTime":1985.7,"body":"No, I couldn't. It got to the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1982.4,"endTime":1985.7,"body":"point where I was like, All"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1985.7,"endTime":1988.28,"body":"right, how am I going to do"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1985.7,"endTime":1988.28,"body":"this? I actually ended up hiking"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1988.28,"endTime":1992.78,"body":"it one time twice because I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1988.28,"endTime":1992.78,"body":"needed to catch up. That's"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1992.78,"endTime":1995.24,"body":"so crazy. I"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1992.78,"endTime":1995.24,"body":"can't. I still can't believe"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1995.24,"endTime":1997.1,"body":"that you did it twice in one"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":1995.24,"endTime":1997.1,"body":"day. It"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1997.1,"endTime":2001.2,"body":"was not that bad. So as"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":1997.1,"endTime":2001.2,"body":"I started at first, old rag used"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2001.2,"endTime":2003.78,"body":"to be one of those hikes where I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2001.2,"endTime":2003.78,"body":"would do it, and I was going to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2003.78,"endTime":2006.54,"body":"the couch the rest of the day"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2003.78,"endTime":2006.54,"body":"like I was not moving, and I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2006.54,"endTime":2007.32,"body":"so sore for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2007.32,"endTime":2009.0,"body":"the next few"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2007.32,"endTime":2009.0,"body":"days. I think that's most"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2009.0,"endTime":2009.6,"body":"people."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2009.66,"endTime":2012.9,"body":"That was neat at first,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2009.66,"endTime":2012.9,"body":"and then the hike still"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2012.9,"endTime":2015.42,"body":"challenging for me. But then I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2012.9,"endTime":2015.42,"body":"realized, I was like, Oh, I get"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2015.42,"endTime":2019.26,"body":"home and I'm fine now. I'm not"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2015.42,"endTime":2019.26,"body":"sore at all whatsoever. So then"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2019.26,"endTime":2022.1,"body":"I was like, I think physically,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2019.26,"endTime":2022.1,"body":"I'm able to do it. I didn't go"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2022.1,"endTime":2025.04,"body":"into it blindly. I have hiked"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2022.1,"endTime":2025.04,"body":"before. I think the most I've"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2025.04,"endTime":2029.66,"body":"hiked is 18 miles. So I've done"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2025.04,"endTime":2029.66,"body":"the mileage before. Now that was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2029.66,"endTime":2032.36,"body":"just not, didn't have a scramble"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2029.66,"endTime":2032.36,"body":"or anything like that, but I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2032.36,"endTime":2035.48,"body":"knew that I could do the"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2032.36,"endTime":2035.48,"body":"mileage. And then I found a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2035.48,"endTime":2038.84,"body":"friend who was crazy enough to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2035.48,"endTime":2038.84,"body":"attempt it with me, and then we"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2038.84,"endTime":2041.96,"body":"went ahead and scheduled it out."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2038.84,"endTime":2041.96,"body":"And it was really cool. It was a"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2041.96,"endTime":2044.62,"body":"really cool experience. It's"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2041.96,"endTime":2044.62,"body":"really cool to be able to say"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2044.62,"endTime":2047.98,"body":"that I did that and actually,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2044.62,"endTime":2047.98,"body":"like I was sore the next day and"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2047.98,"endTime":2050.56,"body":"the day after that. But it"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2047.98,"endTime":2050.56,"body":"actually did not end up being"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2050.56,"endTime":2054.16,"body":"that much harder than doing it."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2050.56,"endTime":2054.16,"body":"It was more mentally hard than"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2054.16,"endTime":2058.3,"body":"anything else. Physically, I"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2054.16,"endTime":2058.3,"body":"think I was fine mentally. I was"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2058.3,"endTime":2060.3,"body":"questioning my life decisions to"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":2058.3,"endTime":2060.3,"body":"hold me unique"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2063.119,"endTime":2066.299,"body":"Virginia Outdoor"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2063.119,"endTime":2066.299,"body":"Adventures is inspired by and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2066.299,"endTime":2070.079,"body":"supported by listeners like you,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2066.299,"endTime":2070.079,"body":"which is why your messages and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2070.079,"endTime":2074.399,"body":"feedback mean so much to me. You"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2070.079,"endTime":2074.399,"body":"can text me directly by clicking"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2074.399,"endTime":2078.059,"body":"on Send me a text message in"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2074.399,"endTime":2078.059,"body":"your show notes, I answer"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2078.059,"endTime":2081.199,"body":"questions, respond to comments"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2078.059,"endTime":2081.199,"body":"and share your feedback on the"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2081.199,"endTime":2085.579,"body":"show. Never miss an update. Get"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2081.199,"endTime":2085.579,"body":"even more information and"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2085.579,"endTime":2089.839,"body":"inspiration by signing up for my"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2085.579,"endTime":2089.839,"body":"newsletter. Click on newsletter,"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2089.839,"endTime":2092.779,"body":"sign up in your show notes or"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2089.839,"endTime":2092.779,"body":"visit Virginia outdoor"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2092.779,"endTime":2096.859,"body":"adventures.com thanks for"},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2092.779,"endTime":2096.859,"body":"listening until next time."},{"speaker":"Jessica Bowser","startTime":2096.919,"endTime":2097.939,"body":"Adventure on you."}]}