After Thoughts

After Thoughts: Levels of Health

Cody Harris & Josiah Goff

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[A.I. Generated] Ever feel like a lone island in a sea of interconnectedness? This episode promises to shed light on that peculiar human experience of separateness, diving into the nuances of health levels and the profound realizations about our personal responses to life's events. Join me as I unfold an epiphany: our sense of isolation isn't a given, it's a choice, and overcoming it could be key to a higher understanding. We grapple with the discomfort of losing our individuality, questioning the allure of unity versus the persistent skepticism about completely dissolving into a collective consciousness. And we don't stop there; the conversation takes a turn towards the enigmatic concept of reincarnation, the struggle for spiritual connection, and the enticing idea of our personal experiences as intentional disassociations within a fractal universe.

Navigating through the podcast seas, we chart a course for the future of our episodes, aiming to refine our production and captivate our community even further. Hear about the changes we're considering, from 10-episode seasons to leveraging your feedback in crafting our journey together. We explore the art of maintaining a natural conversation flow, mirroring therapeutic dialogues, and share tales of our editing adventures. The lighter side of our musings comes to life as we humorously brainstorm financial fixes and share personal ventures, from the possibility of navigating OnlyFans to the unique income streams that keep us afloat. Stick with us for stories, laughs, and a candid look at the creative ways we're steering this ship into uncharted waters.

Levels of Health and Separateness Exploration

Speaker 1

All right , we're good . Okay , well , this is After Thoughts for the levels of health .

Speaker 2

Yes , yes , that is what we're doing .

Speaker 1

And I listened to it this weekend , okay , which was . So it's Monday night , the night before the episode comes out . Yeah , we recorded it like six months ago , something like that , right , yeah , and I listened to it after you edited it and I was listening through posting it and I kept like I was jotting some notes down to myself .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And at a gas . I was listening . I was like , oh , I should say this when we talk in After Thoughts and then like a minute later I would say it in the episode . I'm like damn it , that's funny , so I don't you know , I listening through like Sam did such a great job and I don't really have a lot of . I don't think that we left anything on the table really .

Speaker 1

No Like nothing big like came to mind , right , but there were a couple of reminders for me that I really appreciated listening through the episode , yeah , and one of them is my separateness is not something that happened to me , it's my response to the things that have happened to me , and so that's what we were talking through , just like in some of those lower levels , right , the isolation , and then when you get up into the , you know , level three , level two , the thing that is helping you ascend into the higher levels is the dissolving of separateness , and that experiencing being one with all things is what essentially helps us as fives , you know , get to that guru or the like sage mode , you know , which is , which is a very uncomfortable thought , because the idea of just like going back into the ocean as a wave , right , I don't like that . No , I don't either .

Speaker 2

I've written in , I've written a whole song about that concept and it's just like I don't like thinking about it , I don't , and it's also hard to think about , right , like I don't know . I really want to believe in , like I really love the idea of reincarnation and I think that there's there's some information out there that you can receive that kind of supports , that idea , to some degree , but in my opinion there's more evidence for reincarnation than there is for God . So , and so I think that you know that idea of like us returning back into some universe , some , some energy like universal consciousness , yeah .

Speaker 2

And then being recycled . I guess redistributed is is a . It's a . It's a nice thought , but at the same time I'm still a five and I want to take it apart and go yeah but like we probably just die and so , yeah , I don't know this idea of solving separateness by an all knowing and all connecting . Basically it communicates to me that I need to be tripping on shrooms , micro dosing just all the time to be there .

Speaker 1

I mean probably I , I don't know . There's , there's something deep inside , intuitively , that I feel when I , when I think about it , and it resonates with me and like I long for it in a way , but in more like a spiritual , like body based way , like in my head , though my head always stays separate , right , like there's , there's no me as part of a larger consciousness .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And I can conceptualize the idea of unity and the idea of it sounds nice , but when it completely , like , dissolves my individuality , that's where I draw the line . You know , I want to be connected , but I , but I want there to still be some degree of separation , enough that I am still my own person , you know .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , I mean , in theory , though , we're all our own person , even if we're connected to a larger thing , I guess , right , we're all like different expressions of that thing , right ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , that's kind of the whole the . I don't think I've ever really explained my full like model of the universe to you , but that's kind of like which now is probably not the time . Dude , I sat down , I had coffee with Cody Ray like last month , and are we saying people's ?

Speaker 2

names on this . Now I mean , yeah , it's fine , it's in the community .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's fair .

Speaker 2

I mean not my kids names , but like you know , an adult , yeah , he can defend himself .

Speaker 1

And I went . I went on like a 45 minute rant .

Speaker 1

I swear and just like try to like get out of what was in my head like into a form , and that's the first time I've really tried to like explain the whole thing to one person , yeah , and I think he started to actually kind of get it and , like you know , it actually kind of made sense and I was like , oh , maybe there's something to it . Yeah , well , that's good , but part of it is , like , you know , it's there's , it's purposeful , like disassociation , and that's how we have individual experiences and I , but it's like a fractal thing and that's why there are . We sort of have sub personalities too , and that's a lot of the work that I've been figuring out with the internal family systems . Like I , I think that that's a feature , not a bug , you know , and so it it's .

Speaker 1

It's weird to think about in that regard , because if you think about internally , are there parts of B that are individual , that make up the collective . That is me Right , and I'm inclined to say probably , and so how does that work ? And if you just kind of like scale up and down , then I can kind of conceive of like , okay , then there is a , the same thing that happens of like the consciousness of humanity , and that's just sort of one level , and then , and you just kind of go up until you get to where everything is one thing .

Speaker 2

Okay , yeah .

Speaker 1

I think that makes sense .

Speaker 2

Well , and you were talking about how , like you , you think of , you think of Separatness as like for talking about , like valuing your separateness right and . I think I feel that too , but in terms of like , it's almost like a security blanket . You know that separateness of of things where it's like that's my own space in my head and , yeah , it's where you feel safe , right , and so the thought of losing that and trading connection to all things does not sound appealing .

Speaker 1

You know , I think , though , the actual trick to it isn't about Giving up the space , it's , it's , it's finding safety elsewhere , I guess , or or getting to the point where you don't need to feel safe . Sure , yeah , and I mean that would be my guess , I don't know , but I think that's a possible path . All right , yeah , but I always , you know , I always viewed like I said , I viewed my Separateness as something that happened to me .

Speaker 1

You know the way that I grew up really lonely and had those experiences in middle school and right , as an outcast , and there's some truth to that Sure yeah , some things are circumstantial or environmental , I guess well , yeah , I mean there was some degree of separation that happened to me , right , um , but there was a Whole lot more separation that happened as a result of me responding to the things that happened to me . Hmm , you know what I mean ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , I built up reactionary .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I built up walls like a defense mechanism , like you talked about , you know .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

I no longer felt safe in the world , so I had to create Safety , internally a sense of safety internally . Yeah , and so I created separateness to help myself feel safe because of that . But I never put that together before because if you think about the difference ? It's like One is a wound that just won't heal and the other is like realizing that you just keep inflicting the wound on yourself and that's why it's not healing you know , yeah , yeah , for sure , you like picking at the scab if you only view it as a as an external thing , then it won't ever heal .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And I think that's been part of my journey over the last , you know , several months . Hmm , is understanding the , the risk , my choice in the matter , like my responses and things that it created , and now I can choose something different ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , Well , how are you choosing it ?

Speaker 1

What do you choose ? I mean , it's a A lot of the stuff that we talk about in the convenience versus connection episode .

Speaker 2

Oh throwback .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you know it's . It's things like Wait , was that a throwback ?

Speaker 2

Is that this season ?

Speaker 1

It's this season , but it's a throwback to a conversation we had , like you know , six months ago .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we did . Yeah , it was recorded forever .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it was before , so you know it's . It's making choices that bring connection instead of Allow me to keep isolating . I've been doing a lot of those and it's Made a huge difference , like I I can tell In myself , especially going on a weekly basis to therapy and doing the work that I'm doing . Sure , it's getting less intense , yeah , and I think it's because . So it's almost like what happened last summer , which you'll hear about in the convenience versus connection episode . It was like they're almost like you know , the iceberg got broken and into a bunch of pieces and those pieces have started to like I mean , they're going to . Therapy was like me working the rest of the pieces out and like the there is . Before , when I would have certain triggers , it was like I felt it deep down in my gut . It was like this very deep visceral reaction and now it's like more kind of in my chest . It's been moving its way up my system until it kind of gets out , Like that's where I feel .

Speaker 1

So it's almost like the trauma is healing from the bottom up , and interesting thought , yeah , and . And so I'm noticing more and more as like things that would normally trigger me If they do still trigger me it's it's half as deep as it was before and it's increasingly like coming up , and so , sure , I've noticed that . So I still have my bad days , but they're not the same as they were and I still have my bad reactions . And a big part of this , too , is like understanding how much of what was going on in my life was anxiety that I didn't realize was anxiety .

Speaker 2

Because I couldn't recognize it in my body .

Speaker 1

you know , yeah , I definitely feel that , and so now I'm that's part of me is my journey currently is trying to learn to recognize that before it ramps up too much , and and gain tools to deal with it , you know , and being able to communicate openly and more quickly with Amy about things and and stuff like that , and so I like I've just I've been doing the work and and so it's it's not there . There haven't been like a bunch of massive breakthroughs or anything , because that the big breakthrough happened was last summer , when the ice broke up , but the rest of it is just like small wins , that sort of add up over time and it's just sort of gradual , incremental shifting for me and growth and healing .

Speaker 1

And you know it never happens as fast as we wanted to , but I can definitely see progress over the last , you know , six , eight months for me and it's been , it's been good , like I'm getting a lot more clarity on a lot of things .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and one of them is , you know the stuff that had been holding me back from really going all in on on this podcast and the community , and so I've been like creating stuff like a madman for the last week . That hasn't gone out yet , but it will in the next few weeks , and so it's yeah , it's all going to look pretty different this year , I think .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , I'm definitely excited about that . I feel like it's seeing you work through that stuff from a different perspective . This past year was interesting because it's like you always know when somebody's going through something . You just don't know like what it is or you know how long . But I feel like I was definitely noticing that and just kind of like for a long time waiting to see kind of what happened with this podcast , because we kind of had an end . We knew where we wanted to end .

Speaker 2

We kind of still do know where we want to land it . It's just a matter of how much runway we were going to have , you know .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean , we were talking about just doing five seasons . And then I texted Cody a few days ago and I was like , with everything I'm working right now , we could easily do another like hundred episodes . And we're on what ?

Speaker 2

now what is ?

Speaker 1

the episode tomorrow 30? , 30 .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's and we've well . Yeah , I mean if we could do , man , if we could do if we had all of these , because the thing has been topics trying to figure out , digging in deep and before you know before , and so that's why , like you , look back on the seasons and like we have one season that was 12 episodes , but the other two are eight , right , seven or eight .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't know . Well , we're at episode 30 and divide that by .

Speaker 2

No , well , but that's , it wasn't even though .

Speaker 1

I know , yeah . So yeah , it was hard coming up with topics and it was . It was hard because it felt like , oh , we're just repeating ourselves if we talk about that , right ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , that was the hardest part .

Speaker 1

But I'm realizing that , you know , we , we have so much more to say . We've just not had the right prompts . And that's what I've been working on .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

And so you know I've already got like almost a hundred of them in a queue and kind of fleshed out a little yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , that'll be . That's . That's exciting . Yeah , we could . We could keep these longer seasons up too , which would be nice . It's like , I mean , realistically , the only reason that there's so there's 12 episodes this season , just so everybody knows . And the only reason there's 12 is because we had the time to do it . We took a whole year .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

You know to like think through the topics and figure out what all we're going to do Now . To be fair , most of these the second whole , second half of the season was recorded within like a few weeks of each other .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we like knocked it out real quickly once we got our act together . Yeah , well , once .

Speaker 2

I got my act together .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Well , and like it took getting getting gas scheduled and stuff like that ? Yeah , that's true A little bit so which I guess it isn't all in chronological order , so some of them are all spread out , but there's only like two or three that were like forever ago

Planning for Future Podcast Episodes

Speaker 2

and then . But so I mean , if we can do , you know , get , basically just have better prep beforehand than we can do it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean I see us doing like 10 episodes seasons , like getting to that point Once we get kind of caught up like the next one will have to be , the next one will have to be 11 episodes . Season five will have to be 11 episodes , that it gets to 50 at the end of the season .

Speaker 2

Fair Okay .

Speaker 1

So we can do 10 episodes , seasons after that , but we can do two seasons a year , right , yeah , and that's , that's doable , I think .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

The heart . I mean honestly , one of the things that that holds stuff up the most is is me posting to get community responses .

Speaker 2

That is what's holding us up right now , cause I think , but I found .

Speaker 1

I found a solution for that as well . Like I already know , I already know the questions I'm going to post , going into the episode before we record it .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

I've thought through essentially like what . I have a much better episode , like a much better idea of how we want to frame the conversation , going into what we want people to get out of it . And so as long as we have like , as long as we have like a destination in mind , then we can just explore and stuff .

Speaker 1

But we know how to bring it back and whereas a lot of times we don't , we're just like we're going to sit down and talk about , and that's also fun , which is why I don't want to put too much into it . I want to have just enough to like give us good prompts so we can , you know , bullshit for an hour and then , but have it actually be helpful and , like you know , cohesive someone .

Speaker 2

Yeah Well , there's a lot to be taken from , like the idea of how therapists keep a conversation going . You know , that's kind of what you're doing is like you know . They just ask .

Speaker 2

They have a prompt that opens up a whole box of thoughts that you hadn't thought about , and they ask it in such a way that it , like it , changes that perspective and puts a kind of a new light on old , old thoughts and old feelings , and so it's kind of sounds like what you're doing which will work really well , because , yeah , you can do it endlessly , which is which is nice . I don't know if everybody wants to hear us endlessly talk , but you know well , they , they keep asking for more .

Speaker 1

That's true .

Speaker 2

So I guess we're doing something right ?

Speaker 1

Well , we'll just keep doing it until they stop . I think that's fair .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's fair , man . Yeah , yeah , it'd be cool . We'll know when to stop People . Stop asking for it . That's true . See those numbers go down . No , I mean , and we literally get .

Speaker 1

So I one of the things because I was very , very lazy about this and I set it up and I didn't realize that I did . And then I checked it like a year later and realized I've been running this whole time but I had this recurring post on our Facebook page , like every two weeks . It's like have you subscribed to the podcast yet ?

Speaker 1

Oh , it's just been going and I didn't realize I was running this whole time . And then I just left it and I looked at the analytics , you know , and each time like three or four people see it . But we've had at least a half dozen comments like hey , when are the new episodes coming out ?

Speaker 2

Like on those posts which I also didn't see . You know , I don't ever get on Facebook , yeah , so one of these days maybe we'll we'll figure out a way to make money and we'll hire somebody to do social media and that'd be really cool . And editing editing first , because I don't want to do all the editing anymore , I just want to oversee the editing . I don't want to do it . Yeah fair enough yeah , but I mean , if that was , if that was my job , then I could do it .

Speaker 1

But it's not my job .

Speaker 2

So it makes it harder . But this season I kind of did all at once , which was kind of , oddly enough , a little easier . I also edited less . So there's like whole sections of episodes where I didn't hardly touch it because it was especially when Sam was in it . If Sam's in the episode , I didn't hardly have to edit it because she doesn't need any editing . Like she's very it looks very articulate and knows what she's saying . So I need tons of editing . Yeah , me too . Yeah , yours is just space which is easy to edit . It's like space between words . For me it's like I'll ramble for like a paragraph worth of words and none of it makes sense , like it didn't . I get derailed in my own mind , and a lot of that back in the day it was a lot of it was due because we probably had we opened that second bottle of wine when we shouldn't have yeah that's true , but yeah , some , I don't know .

Speaker 2

I think sometimes I have a little bit like Michael Scott I start talking in hope that I land the plane where I want to .

Speaker 2

I do that all the time you just start the sentence not knowing where the end is , and that's kind of how when I'm listening but I don't think about that in the moment when I'm listening back up at myself , I'm like God , what am I doing ? I'm like Michael Michael Scott , right now , just straight up , just saying words to see what happens , and I kind of hate that . I do that to myself . Future Cody really hates that because I'm really creating a lot of extra work for myself later . But I don't know , there's a lot . I mean there's probably some of that left in the season that I just left , and so maybe that's me , that's my own , as the editing gets less . That's me moving up in my levels of development , in my finding security in ways like not not needing to have so much control right and allowing people to try to circle back around to this episode we're talking about it's . It's , I think , both of us I mean we always are but like experiencing those like very noticeable changes in our lives based on Moving and probably moving up and down the ladder right and in levels of development , and I think that that's that's evident in like , sometimes the smaller like . For me it's more the smaller things , it's the . It's my . It was my .

Speaker 2

If anybody follows me on social media individually , I'm doing this project right now called February writers , which I think I've talked about before . I did it a few years ago and then they started it up again this year and One . It's been way better this year than it was before because at the very first night we got together was on the 31st , right before the first February , and we all got together and had a drink , and we didn't do that in 2021 because everybody was quarantining and so I didn't really talk to anybody about it . It was like a kind of my own solo mission at that time . Where's this time around ? Everybody is in that . We all got together , so everybody was . Even the people we didn't know .

Speaker 2

We now know and so we're all on a group text and like that group text came Alive after we met together and so , starting at day one , everybody's just been like constantly encouraging everybody . Oh , I listen to your song . I love this song today , vovava , so I think it's . I think it's been better for Productivity .

Speaker 2

But my willingness to jump into it and say , you know what , it didn't matter what I , what all I have so much stuff going on in life , I'm doing it anyway because I know it's gonna force me to like grow in so many ways that I that I want to grow and impassionate about , even if it's a pain in the ass some days , and so you know things like that . I notice like little bits of change that have Caused me to be more just , open and willing to connect to people and do things , because I'm also putting it all online , which is something I didn't do before either and just willing to bring , desiring to bring other people into it , whoever wants to be a part of the process , and so I hit also just posting myself online , like just that sounded risque .

Speaker 1

Only fanscom slash .

Speaker 2

Just playing playing songs wasn't working .

Speaker 1

No , what were you playing those songs with ? This is derailing really quickly . Welcome to after .

Speaker 2

She almost said after hours that I did , I did .

Speaker 1

So who needs a branding help ?

Speaker 2

We do , really , yeah we're literally like like a label maker . That's , that's , that's our five brain . It's just like this is a podcast .

Speaker 2

It is your birthday to make another off the office reference . Anyway , what was I saying ? Oh , posting Fred Brewer writers , posting myself online . So Just something as simple as talking to a camera and then posting it , without Thinking about editing it and what it looks like and what version of it it is , and just trying to be my more real and authentic self , without worrying about if people are gonna like it or not , has been . That is such an interesting exercise , a therapeutic exercise that I wasn't really aware of . But there's just so many things in life that I'm , I think , that like subconsciously , a lot of the time I'm just afraid of doing and and then so I hesitate on those things and Just go like , oh well , I guess I just don't really know what to do with them yet . So that's why I don't do it . But a lot of it is like you know , fear or insecurity that I don't know how to do it , or like you know that kind of stuff still creeps in all the time and so are you ?

Speaker 2

conscious of it when it creeps in . It is . It usually happens . Yeah , okay , yeah . Sometimes I think I'm more conscious of it now because I know what it looks like .

Speaker 2

Yeah , before it was like , like you're saying , like you just disguise it as other things right and and and so when I stop and don't want to do something , I have to like kind of Jump out of myself for a second and ask myself is this Something that I don't want to do because I'm just too insecure about it or too afraid to do it , or is it something that I really shouldn't do because of something bigger picture and Because sometimes I have ideas of things I should do and sometimes it's like not worth the energy and effort .

Speaker 2

And then there's things that I should be doing that I just don't really know how to do and so I just don't want to put in the the work or the effort to do that , both internally and externally . But you know , and there's things like we talked about today , where it's like when we were setting up for this and eating dinner was , you know , it's like Sometimes I'm spinning my wheels and I don't even know it , like there's all this stuff I've been trying to do on social media that's burning me out and it's it's just valuable .

Speaker 1

Here's what . Here's what . I don't understand . Why don't you ever text me and ask me , like hey , how do I do this ? Or hey , like I'm thinking about this , what do you think ? Like I love Geeking out on this stuff .

Speaker 2

That's true . I don't know . I think I'm just so used to not asking for help like not , I'm just wanting .

Speaker 1

I can general yeah , okay , okay .

Speaker 2

Okay , I generally I can teach myself

Discussing OnlyFans and Money Problems

Speaker 2

. A lot of times , though , it's not knowing the question , like not knowing what the what to ask . So , and I say that in terms of like searching for something on the internet , when you , when you , when you have a problem , you can ask it a hundred ways and get a hundred different . You know results , and so sometimes I don't really know what I'm should be asking you , right , which is like a lot of like what we're talking about today with .

Speaker 1

That's what it's just , I guess I don't . I Guess I'm not really sure what you're saying , because the way that I'm thinking in my head is like hey , I'm trying to do this .

Speaker 2

Right , I need to know sure . Yeah , I'm making it too philosophical . You're like , no , like , how do I shoot this ?

Speaker 1

Actually , I was just thinking like that is one thing that chat GPT is useful for is finding answers to things that you Haven't figured out the question for yet , because it's hard like it's hard to Google something that you don't know like how to describe , hmm . Yeah but if you can , if you can use chat GPT to help you formulate a question , I've found that that's okay that I need you to show me how .

Speaker 2

Okay , because I don't know how to utilize chat tbt in that way . Well , I've been , you've been doing it constantly yeah .

Speaker 1

It's true , I have a whole my system's amazing , like I I'm really , I'm really proud of it because it doesn't take very much effort . But I'm like Like doing a shit ton of research and brainstorming that'll end up like , but in a certain format that allows me to Quickly create content from it right on my own , yeah , yeah , package it and resell it .

Speaker 2

I will at some point . That work should go somewhere . It's going into our . I'm just .

Speaker 1

I'm always thinking about monetizing things one thing at a time , cody , but I'm bad at it .

Speaker 2

That's kind of what I'm saying to yeah anyway .

Speaker 1

I feel like half of what we talk about is your money problems oh . Man like over the course of all of our conversations , especially on after hours . Yeah , there's always at least one comment .

Speaker 2

Well , yeah , there are things I'm doing about that . I don't want to go . I don't want to go into that here , but we can talk about it afterwards only fanscom . What if we did a podcast on only fans ? That'd be so weird . Like , not sex related .

Speaker 1

Like putting our podcast on only fans and making people subscribe to it . Is that what ?

Speaker 2

you're saying I don't even know .

Speaker 1

I just think . I don't know how , I don't know .

Speaker 2

I don't either , but I mean , obviously the only thing that it's known for in like culturally is like Sex workers .

Speaker 1

But and I don't think it's got to be other things on . Well , it wasn't originally for it was supposed to be for content creators to monetize their content , and it's still most monetized content is porn .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I Mean . Yeah , it's ridiculous . So when I think about how much some of those people make , I Could solve my money problems .

Speaker 1

Oh man , apparently .

Speaker 2

I can't wait to see the AI description of this episode .

Speaker 1

Oh , my god , the , the barber I used to go to . I love that guy Because I think I've talked about him before Maybe , but but he was and I mean this in a very loving way he was basically a gay redneck and , okay , he's from Florida and you know , drove a big truck and but he was gay and he was running a barber shop and it was is actually kind of a brilliant move . It was like the branding was basically what a gay guy would think a , a straight guy would want in branding of a barber shop and so , okay , it was like , you know , like really edgy kind of branding but with he , one of the first people at barbers that he hired , that's this girl with big boobs , and like he took pictures of her and put her on the branding and like all this stuff yeah and and he made a very successful barbershop and and and .

Speaker 1

But I remember she was always in there , you know , when I was getting my he can see you cut my hair and and then one day , like she was gone or stuff was going from her , from her station , no , I was like , oh , you know what happened to so-and-so . And he was like , oh yeah , she basically became an only fans millionaire , like .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I Mean . I've personally known people who don't have done only fans and they don't have a job like that is their job and they make An insane amount of money and one crazy it's , it blows my mind , but yeah , outside of doing that , it's a it's a hard life , but yeah , I've got things in the works that are interesting . Hopefully will help me in that regard , but maybe it won't be a conversation too much longer . Okay , much to your .

Speaker 1

Delight , so Cody's gonna be selling drugs , thought about that too Thought about giving plasma . That doesn't seem like a good long-term strategy .

Speaker 2

No , no , that's usually for people buying the drugs . So like I Need people's plasma money , so I gotta sell the this conversation is gonna weigh downhill .

Speaker 1

How long have we gone at this point ? What is the time ? I can't see 35 minutes okay , now 35 minutes I . Think that's probably good , unless you want to talk about something else .

Speaker 2

No , I'm good . I don't know what else to talk about . It's just gonna keep devolving .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I know .

Speaker 2

Anyway levels of health .

Speaker 1

I gotta get the levels of levels of development .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I gotta get this episode out , but I guess by the time people listen to this , they've probably listened to the episode , so we hope you enjoyed it . It was one of my favorite conversations .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2

I loved it , yeah , and you'll see a lot more of Sam this season too , which is always nice Cuz , yes , she brings a certain weight to the conversation that we can't do , and not because she was pregnant when recorded . Yes , no with her words .

Speaker 1

That's it . Thanks for the afterthoughts everyone .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 1

Bye you .