After Thoughts
After Thoughts
After Thoughts: Convenience vs. Connection
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[A.I. Generated] Ever found yourself laughing at the thought of how a simple candlelit dinner could transform your family dynamics? Or pondered deep into the night about balancing convenience with the richness of human connection? Welcome to an episode where we peel back the layers to uncover the strength of bonds formed through vulnerability, the warmth of shared traditions, and the delightful absurdity of life's untimely spoilers.
Navigating the world of family, therapy, and personal growth takes center stage as we share stories of overcoming the pull of social media and the critical inner voice to foster deeper connections with our loved ones. We reflect on the serendipity of improving relationships through tech-free activities and the unanticipated therapeutic benefits of dim, flickering candlelight during family dinners. The episode culminates with a candid discussion on the interplay of anxiety and vulnerability, revealing how embracing our discomfort can lead to truer, more profound connections.
As we wrap up, join us for some heartfelt ruminations on the friendships that fortify us, the shared experiences that heal, and the anticipatory buzz of what lies ahead. From the tranquility found in a week free from anxiety to the invigorating promise of future guests and seasons, this episode is a tapestry of insights, chuckles, and revelations about the everyday choices that shape our lives and relationships.
Convenience Versus Connection
Speaker 1Okay , well , it didn't start immediately . There was a countdown . Well , now we're going . Well , I'm ready , so that's good .
Speaker 2That's good . I'm as ready as I'm going to be .
Speaker 1You have two pillows .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's because every time we do these , I always lean back in this chair and the mic doesn't get . It's just weird . It's a really weird uh incline . Okay , so I just don't like it . It gives me it . There's no support for my neck all right so I've got a different pillow for that , and then I have a pillow that I'm holding well , I'm glad you're comfy yeah , I'm real comfy now welcome to afterthoughts everybody .
Speaker 1This is the convenience versus connection . Yep , and I got to say , after we recorded and we planned out the order of the episodes , I didn't realize how early in our recording sessions that we did this episode , yeah , and so it was , like you know , I think the second week of july when we did this .
Speaker 1yeah and and then we recorded most of the season after that and I referred to everything that happened to me this summer that summer um multiple times in those other episodes and didn't think about the fact that we were putting this like at the end of the season yeah , well , we didn't know well , this , but this . Well , when we planned out the uh like when we were releasing , like the order of release , we didn't , we had already recorded all of them yeah and I just didn't realize . So this is the episode .
Speaker 2This is the episode that I refer to multiple times throughout the whole season I always say we got to go back and listen to them and put them in the right order . And you always say , nah , it's not that big of a deal , but in this season it was a , it wasn't a big deal .
Speaker 1No , it was like it was a small deal foreshadowing . It's like watching the movie memento it's just going backwards .
Speaker 2I've actually never seen memento . Well , here's so I've seen it , I saw I do understand the the premise and I should see it because it's my favorite director .
Speaker 1Yeah , I saw I saw it in theater . Uh , when it came , out in theater , in theater capital t yeah , but I missed the first 15 minutes oh , so you didn't see the end , so exactly so the whole movie . I'm like what the fuck is going on oh man , that's like going into the .
Speaker 2Do you remember the movie the others ? I didn't see that . You didn't . Okay , well , I won't do you . Do you think you'll ever see it ? I don't know , I don't know anything about it . Oh , it had Nicole Kidman in it .
Speaker 1Oh , okay , it's got something to do with ghosts or something , right ?
Speaker 2Yeah , so it's actually kind of a funny story For anybody who saw that sorry .
Speaker 1Well , now you're going to spoil it for me , aren't you ?
Speaker 2I thought you were okay with it .
Speaker 1When did I give my consent ? I don't remember giving my consent .
Speaker 2I don't know . Do you think you'll ever watch it ? You said I don't know . It's about ghosts , right ?
Speaker 1So I assumed that you didn't know what it was about .
Speaker 2I heard yes .
Speaker 1Tell me the ending Go ahead .
Speaker 2So the whole premise of it is that she goes to this house and stays in it and the whole time she's afraid of the ghost . And then they start talking to her and blah , blah , blah and it goes back and forth . And it was right around the time sixth sense came out , and I guess it was a little after that I was a younger when I came out but anyway , it's the same kind of concept the whole time . She's a ghost , they're all dead . Yeah , all of them . Yeah , that sense .
Speaker 2And I remember that when I first got into my , I remember I went to the theater to watch this with friends , but I was too young to drive . So I was in middle school or maybe high school , like freshman year , and I got into the car with my dad who I didn't know wanted to see this movie . And the moment I opened the door and sat in there , he goes how was the movie ? I said I guess it's all right , they were all dead . And he's like , well , thanks a lot . And to this day he will tell that story . It really hurt him . I think it really stuck with him . It was traumatizing . Learning a spoiler , um , yeah , that was pretty funny , but but it's like seeing that movie but you don't see the end . You're just like I guess we're just going in circles . I don't know what this is about , because it was a very confusing movie until the end . I do remember that .
Speaker 2But anyway , cool story bro I'm high , you know what are you going to do ?
Speaker 1Oh man , so I , oh man I . So I listened to the episode today . That's good . I don't know how long ago you edited it , it was a while ago , okay . Um , I gotta say one it was . It was a little hard to listen to , just because it was very raw and it sort of took me back into that moment , sure , um , but it was also really good and cathartic to listen to because all of those changes that happened , like we haven't gone backwards , like there's no no aggressor , yeah , there's no , I mean we've gone like so much has happened since then .
Speaker 1Yeah , but that was the flashpoint right . That's when everything really started to change into a different direction for me , yeah and you know , then I went , I started doing therapy .
Speaker 2Then , you know , started which is good because we talk about that . I did hear that just the other day when I was putting in responses I heard that , that part where you're I was like you would get a lot of therapy . Now I'm like yeah , maybe I should revisit it and I'm like hey , he did .
Speaker 1And then we did a whole episode on therapy that came out before this . We really fucked up the order this season .
Speaker 2It is a bigger deal . I think that's okay . People are going to hear this and be like I thought he did go to therapy .
Speaker 1Well , I mean , I guess it depends on which way your podcast player sorts the episodes . I guess that's true too , but you're making a big assumption , assuming they don't listen to them chronologically .
Speaker 2I have no idea . Yeah , I don't know you don't have to , though that is true , but yeah , only the real Gs that listen to this podcast know that it's not in the real order .
Speaker 1Everybody else gets to be confused and try to put the pieces together . Yeah , we did . I do make reference to the date , so they do know that it's like last summer , so they can probably figure that out .
Healing Journey and Family Connections
Speaker 1Oh , yeah , but , but yeah , the the changes that I made . You know , I'm still sleeping in the same room with Amy and the kids and I love it and I wouldn't change that . Um , and that helps me a lot and I think that you know there's there's regressions in some things , like there's like old habits are are hard to kick sometimes and I think that , like when I started , things started , especially when things started to get really stressful for me , like with work and stuff yeah you know , I started to go back into some of those habits and , like I , put Twitter back on my phone for a little bit oh yeah , I started doing .
Speaker 1I put actually instagram on my phone too , just because I had to do the social stuff for this and it's really annoying and then just like instagram in general .
Speaker 2I know I noticed you liked one of my posts from that account the other day and I was like what the hell he's on instagram ?
Speaker 1yeah , um , I I can't . I can't stomach being on Instagram for more than a couple of minutes at a time , but I saw your post come up when I was checking the notifications for our account . Yeah , but I got back on Twitter for a little while , like a couple months ago , and I started to feel that some of that stuff come back up , and that's one example I mean this has happened like a few times of just falling kind of back into some old patterns .
Speaker 1And then I start to feel that disconnect . And then I have to , like , reset again and talk to Amy and , like you know , take Twitter off of my phone and just do things like that . Sure , but every time I go through that like it gets , it gets easier each time , and the best thing ever was finally letting Amy all the way in last summer , like that was a complete game changer for me , sure , and so when I start to feel that withdrawal that I do , then , like depression comes with that and different things like that , and then I have to first of all recognize it , which sounds simple , but when you're in that day-to-day it can be so hard to be that self-aware all the time .
Speaker 1It's so it is , and so then we've had to have , you know , multiple conversations but , like I said , each time that happens and I open up to her again , let her back in , like it's , it's , it gets easier and easier . Yeah , and I think , like , overall , it's been a very healing journey for me of the last like nine months , and I noticed that , you know , one of the things I talked about in the episode was this voice in my head of you know , like kind of beating myself up and um and also like just being really harsh , yeah , in general with you know , when I don't get something right . But it's this , it's this voice that would then also come out with the kids and whenever they would , you know , make a mistake or do something , like it was like reflexively jumping on them and there was like a part of me that was always looking for the opportunity to point out a mistake and like jump on it and stuff like that .
Speaker 1And I hated that about myself and then over the course of the months that I did therapy and all that , as I sort of healed those wounds , I noticed that that just faded away and I don't have that constant voice in there and there are kind of like whispers of it here and there , but not very strong and very easily dismissed , at least with the kids , and that has been amazing and I've noticed a huge difference with the kids . And that has been amazing and I've noticed a huge difference with the kids . Another big change we made was stop watching TV or letting them watch TV . They do like one hour a week .
Speaker 1And that's been amazing too , but we had to get to the point where we weren't in survival mode anymore , to where we weren't using that as a crutch , so that we could actually follow through on that , you know , because it can be really easy to . You know , let like use it , um , as a distraction right yeah , you know , definitely .
Speaker 1And then the next thing , you know , it just the the tv window time extends and extends and extends . Yeah , um , and so we've been doing a lot more stuff as a family to connect and like playing card games and collecting Pokemon cards and all that stuff . So that's the kind of the general update . Is that , ever since that whole thing , I feel like there was like this big mass down in my gut and that broke it up , and then going through therapy was like kind of working the pieces out of my system yeah , that's cool on on a part of what you were saying , doing things with the kids .
Speaker 2I thought I actually saw this video yesterday that made me think of you . I've been meaning to tell you , so I'm just going to tell you here . Um , it was a video that I I actually really I could see that how it would work and I would really
Benefits of Candlelit Dinners for Relationships
Speaker 2like that as well . But they talk about how , um that I guess it was the the wife posting it and she said that her husband suggested that they try something new , uh , around dinner time , which was to only eat dinner by candlelight and because they have like three kids . It was very similar . It's like a lot of the situation was very similar to yours and they looked like they were pretty close in age and said that the kids they thought it would be really hard to do with the kids and everything , but what it did was it immediately calms them down and makes them very talkative .
Speaker 2They . It just brings this like openness out in their kids is what they said and that they , um , they thought that you know , we'll try it a few times and see , but they ended up doing it a lot .
Speaker 2And he said they don't do it every time but , like for the most part , they always do and the kids look forward to dinner time and ask now they want to do it that way and they showed a video of it and I was like , actually I could see that , because it's like it really opens up your senses to be able to take in more information , because you're kind of shutting part of that down , um , in your brain . This I had . We're always over , you know , overstimulated by everything going around us and I , for me , lights are included in that because of being on the spectrum . So , depending on the light , I could be incredibly uncomfortable and super aware of the room and not paying attention to what's going on in front of me , and I do that kind of stuff all the time . And , uh , so I was like I , I , I kind of get it . It's like you know , the the idea of why it's romantic is because it feels intimate .
Speaker 2And so you know you take that out of that , that context , put it into any context that you could say that anytime you want to do a special dinner with anyone , do it by candlelight , because it makes everything , you know , it shrinks everything down to just that moment .
Speaker 1Yeah , huh , and there is something about fire that feels , uh it's , maybe it's instinctual there's , yeah , there's , and there's , like the flickering flame is very meditative .
Speaker 2Right , yeah , I was going to say I mean , it's like something in our DNA that we want to gather around a fire and connect with others , and it's like this weird thing . That's just like a , it's a universal mode of connection .
Speaker 1Yeah , you need a fire pit . Do you have one here ?
Speaker 2No , Okay , I wonder if you could do one though , because people on different I mean people got people have stoves on their decks on the second and third floor . So if we get that kind of fire hazard , like what can I make a fire pit out somewhere ? Um , yeah , I'm surely . I know somebody has to around here , but we know there's no official fire pit .
Speaker 1So maybe I can buy one . We have one in our backyard . So we should do that sometime just hang out , we should do that that would be fun .
Speaker 2It's too bad you don't have a fireplace . We could just record this episode in front of that , in front of the fireplace .
Speaker 1Oh , we have a uh a fake fireplace we do .
Speaker 2We have one of those fake like well , like wood stove things oh okay . Madison's parents have the one that looks like a fireplace .
Speaker 1Yeah , ours looks like one of those old stoves , but it's sitting in our fireplace , okay , and it actually puts out heat . It is a heater , but you can turn the heater part on and off and then it has fake flames and stuff .
Speaker 1But I tell you , man , just turning that on and it being in the room and you don't really think about it , but it has a similar effect because it's just like your brain processes it as a real fire over there , because it's in the space where a fireplace should be , you know same with those uh channels on tv where you can turn on a fire at any time or whatever .
Speaker 2I guess live streaming , but it was like 4k fireplace on youtube . Yeah , oh yeah , back in the day now they have whole things dedicated to it on netflix .
Speaker 1So yeah , same concept , I guess yeah , so overall , um , it's been really good . We've we , you know , I think I think I said in the episode that , like the result of this is Amy and I are better than ever right , um , by far , and we've had a lot of really hard conversations , um , but they always end up with us feeling closer and that's good , and so it's um , that part has been really healing for us too , and you know she's on her own journey , and so I definitely want to do a follow-up to the relationships episode , because so much has changed since then .
Speaker 2Yeah , for sure , I hope , I hope , I would like , I'd like to think that things have changed on my end too in regards to doing a relationships part two . I think it has to have , because so much I didn't know about myself back then when we were in the relationship episode and things that were getting in the way of me connecting with others and and and especially with Madison .
Speaker 2it's just kind of , you know , being able to identify those things in your life and put a name to them and understand them that way , um is is pretty impactful and it's something that I don't .
Overcoming Anxiety and Building Connections
Speaker 2I don't feel like fives do very odd . Fives don't like that process . You know , you don't , we don't want to dig down and like , name the thing and understand the thing in a way that , like , the road leads to the feelings right . It feels so vulnerable .
Speaker 1It does yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , cause you're , it feels so vulnerable it does . Yeah , yeah , because you're . It's like . It almost feels like you're like putting yourself on trial or something you know . It's just like that uncomfortable feeling of like . It's like if we were talking about our feelings on a podcast in front of hundreds of thousands of people .
Speaker 1Don't know what that's like ?
Speaker 2no , I have no idea . It sounds terrifying . Um , if I think about it too much , uh , like what was I saying the other ? I was saying that on another episode , right , that , like the uh , the spectrum episode , I hated editing it because I didn't want to put it out there . Like every once in a while , I get reminded by about the fact that this makes me uncomfortable , but I do like the idea that it connects with people and that I didn't have to put in that work as long as it's a one-way connection .
Speaker 2Yeah , don't dm me though no , I'm kidding , I would love to .
Speaker 2I'd love to talk to anybody um the uh , especially if you talk about one of my three pillars of common communication right yesterday , whenever it was yeah uh , yeah , I was just doing a little throwback there , um , but yeah , I think that , uh , there's a lot of things that's happened since then for me in terms of just trying to stay conscious of the things that tend to be my biggest points of friction towards like moving , towards getting like real connection with people and like with Madison , I think there's like things that I've been really working on overcoming lately is being okay with physical touch , because it's something that I just don't like and it's part fiveness and part spectrum , I'm sure , but like I don't like people being near me and it doesn't matter who it is , like sometimes , I just don't want to be touched , I don want anybody near me , just want to sit on the side of the couch by myself and , um , that's hard for somebody who's a six and very affectionate and her primary love language is like physical touch and , like you know , doing things for like acts of service , stuff like that .
Speaker 2There's all this stuff that's like , you know , to somebody like me , if I'm not careful and I don't stay kind of in check with my feelings and like what I'm , what I'm feeling , before a situation occurs in which it will trigger all of those things , um , if I don't do that , then it's really easy for me to like just very poorly react and obviously hurt her feelings . Why wouldn't it ? Um ? And so you know , it's like I find that I get into those situations less now than I probably ever did before .
Speaker 2And so you know there's all these quirks about me that I remember . But even back on the relationships episode , that I haven't listened to in a really long time , but I do remember things about it where I was like , by the one time , I listened to it later on . Things about it where I was like , by the one time I listened to it , um , later on , and I remember thinking even then things had changed in terms of trying to find those bridges of connection or those compromises that are kind of well understood by both sides . But , um , yeah , it's . I could go into that for a while , but there's , there's like there's a lot of things that I think have helped me in terms of learning how to connect with people on a more meaningful level and and , and yeah , you know one of the other things that we sorry I got frog in my throat here uh , one of the other things that we talked about in the episode was , um , just how I'd had a lot of anxiety , or just around the podcast itself .
Speaker 1Yeah , and , like you know , when we were sitting down , I enjoyed that and like talking recording but like everything leading up to that and stuff after that .
Speaker 2Um .
Speaker 1I didn't recognize it as anxiety before , but now I . You know , now I do Um , but I don't have that anymore Like pretty much at all . That's nice , you know , now I do um , but I don't have that anymore , like pretty much at all .
Speaker 1That's um , the and I was thinking about like kind of when that went away . I think it was . It was partially because of what happened to me last summer and then actually going through the process of recording the politics episode with you and the conspiracy theory , one sure um that helped , I don't know .
Speaker 1It was like there was a big part of me that felt like I couldn't , like I couldn't share it with you yeah and so the so , then that made it really hard to connect , and I'm kind of realizing this in real time as we're talking . Oh , okay um and and and so , but as I shared and as I wasn't rejected , like that helped build trust that you know we can connect on a deeper level as friends , and so that went a long way towards just relieving all that anxiety that had kind of built up over the couple of years prior to that .
Speaker 2Sure , yeah , definitely I wish I could just like flip my anxiety off . I don't know if it's always years prior to that . Sure , yeah , definitely I wish I could just flip my anxiety off . I don't know if it's always the same like that , though because I feel like maybe yours was survival like circumstantial anxiety ? Maybe I have no idea .
Speaker 1Well , I don't flip my anxiety off entirely just around that subject .
Speaker 2Oh well , sure , sure , sure , sure , sure , yeah , Okay .
Anxiety and Chill Conversations
Speaker 1I can't remember if I shared the story of , like , living a week without any anxiety . Did I tell you okay , yeah , that was wild . Um , I don't know if I told it when we were recording , though did I tell you I thought we did to actually talk about it here .
Speaker 2All right , I feel like that's been our main deep conversation lately .
Speaker 1But yeah , when I got sick that week and had to spend a week in the hotel by myself and then After that for some reason I didn't feel any anxiety for like almost a week- and it was so weird man , it was like it was it's hard to even describe .
Speaker 2Do you think that your anxiety then is like tied to , just like overstimulation , because the fact that you had to do nothing that week Honestly , I think it was more just connecting with my body and being present versus being in my head .
Speaker 1I think my anxiety mostly stems from me living in my head a lot of the time .
Speaker 2Yeah , that makes sense . I can relate to that to some degree . I think that my anxiety I didn't identify as anxiety , um , at first , and so because of the fact that I would easily be able to say , I mean , you could just say again , I'm just in my own head , but I was just , I would just say like I don't understand . Why would this ? This is an anxiety Like I don't feel upset about anything , like I'm not say like I don't understand . Why would this ? This is an anxiety Like I don't feel upset about anything , like I'm not , you know , and I would go long stints of just not feeling upset about anything , like I just I'm a pretty chill person . Even in the most intense , anxious , anxiety-inducing moments , I'm still pretty chill , like I just don't overreact in that way and never really have , and I don't overreact in that way and never really have , and I just never feel like it's when I touch the mic cable .
Speaker 2Stop . Sorry , I didn't mean to interrupt . You go ahead , there goes all the thoughts bye . Why'd you have to do that ?
Speaker 1what were you saying about not having anxiety ?
Speaker 2that's not anxiety as much as it is like such severe irritation that it becomes like so uncomfortable to me .
Speaker 1And then I have to .
Speaker 2That's all I can think about . And then , and then I just want to throw things in all .
Speaker 1This is the kind of super chill Except for when I want to murder you .
Speaker 2This is the kind of moment that I'm talking about , though . Why , why , I always have lyrics in front of me on a stage right ? Because if you did that especially and I could hear it in my ears , oh man , I'd forget everything I'm doing right then . Um , but like my heart rate didn't go up just now it wasn't exciting .
Speaker 2Still pretty chill , pretty cool as a cucumber , um , and and even still like if my meds , my meds like , stop working or something or I forget to take them , uh , I , uh , I have , uh , it still doesn't affect me like , it just feels like there's a small troll trying to squeeze my neck slowly .
Speaker 2You know what I mean like everything just gets real tight right here and I feel like I can't breathe , kind of like it just feels like I can't take a deep breath , and that's like the majority of the time that I feel anxiety , and it's just that , and it just kind of makes me feel tense and I'm just like what is this thing ? But if it goes that , if it goes unmedicated for really a long time , it just keeps getting worse and worse , and I have absolutely no like it feels as though I have no control over it , and yeah . So I know there's different kinds of anxiety . I , if I could pinpoint the , if there's like a thing that makes me feel a lot of anxiety . I'd love to find that thing , though , and turn it off . But yeah , it's called a lobotomy . Yeah , we turn everything off . That sounds pretty nice . Put me in a paradise .
Speaker 2What was that movie ? Uh , sucker punch . You remember that movie ? I don't think I saw that . Oh man , you gotta go , you gotta see . We should . Let's watch that . Well , that could be something we could do together . I haven't seen it in a really long time . It's a Zack Snyder movie , and it is so good Cause it's like it's very anime , like it's real live . It's real live action , but it's it seems like something you would like , and so , um , yeah , we'll watch it sometime , but there's , I don't want , because I want you to watch the movie this is like half of our conversations where it's like Cody's like oh yeah , it's like in this movie .
Speaker 1I'm like well , I haven't seen that . And he's like well , I'll tell you about it . I don't want to . I'll watch it , don't tell me about it .
Speaker 2I saw it on a stream service the other day somewhere , so I can watch it . Maybe it's on HBO .
Speaker 1We probably do need to have actual hangout time . That's not just podcast stuff , even though this is fun . This is the most fun I have . You know what you mentioned in that episode as well that you don't have any friends and then a couple months later we went on this awesome bachelor trip . That's true .
Speaker 2yeah , that's kind of an interesting thought , huh yeah , so you gained a lot of friends , really quickly well there's probably a lot to impact there .
Speaker 2No , I know , um , I would say that my opinion has well . No , what is it last year ? I guess it was last july , the week god , it doesn't feel like I was just a few months before . Maybe it's because I didn't decide to do a bachelor trip until like four weeks before we did it , um , but it doesn't feel like it was right
Reflecting on Meaningful Connections and Growth
Speaker 2before that .
Speaker 2But that is kind of crazy , because I mean , honestly though , it's like kind of that trip was a huge , um eye opener to me about , kind of putting everybody in the same room is like how many deeper meaningful connections I've made with people that I didn't know I had made that with , you know , and so it was kind of , uh , kind of subconsciously , a little therapeutic in that way , because it was nice to have everyone that I cared about in the same room and also feel like and feel that reciprocated in that particular situation , cause , yeah , everybody's there to celebrate me , and so , of course , it felt kind of nice , that like , but it was , it felt , it was a genuine experience that I had where I felt that the , the love that I have for other people is reciprocated , because it was so obviously made of evident is very apparent , and so I'm the contrast , and that's probably a lot of , I don't think fives don't really like rejection and so I feel like that's a big part of it .
Speaker 2I'm going to go down into a rabbit hole about therapy here , but this is gonna change a whole different um thing , but yeah no , I'm glad .
Speaker 1I'm glad we did that trip and it also helped me feel like I mean , I learned a lot about myself on that trip . Yeah , um , and it helped me feel like I could connect with others too , like other guys , cause I that's the first time I'd done anything like that in years .
Speaker 2It made me , made me better understand all of those stupid uh like hot tub time machine .
Speaker 2Well , I was going to say , like raunchy comedies , like the hangover or whatever , like hot tub time machine , men go on a trip together , yeah , once a year , and that's always like the premise of so many of those movies and it's like , um , I kind of get the once a year like bunch of guys that you like and enjoy doing things with , go out and do something or do nothing , but in a different city , you know . Whatever the experience is , I understood it after that trip . I was like , oh yeah , I get that . That's actually like really important . It was , it feels important , it feels like something that should happen and um , so that's , that's really nice . We should do more things together and generally that'd be cool . But we all have pretty different lives in everyday life so it's kind of hard to get everybody together .
Speaker 1Yeah , I , I keep forgetting to . Actually we were supposed to do the bowling night , but I completely forgot about that . Yeah , I have a lot going on You've had .
Speaker 2yeah , it isn't like you haven't anything going on , but uh , yeah .
Speaker 1Well , I am a little bit sad that we have one episode left in the season .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1And also relieved because I need to focus my thing , yeah , my energy , on other stuff , including other stuff for Enneagram five , but not just the podcast , right , that's true , yeah , there's that , but I'll miss .
Speaker 2I'll miss creating stuff every week .
Speaker 1I mean , I guess we will still be , hopefully still creating yeah , just not , for we'll be putting it together pretty quick yeah , and I think we're going to start recording again this summer yeah um , because we already know what episodes we're doing right , yeah , we could just knock them out , all the ones that were going to be just us . Yeah . So , more to come . I don't want to jinx it , but I think we could potentially do a fall season Like actually have one ready for the fall .
Speaker 2You think we could do it ? Oh yeah , Isn't that the plan ? Like spring and fall ? Well yeah , but I mean I don't know if we actually officially talked about that . If we , if we actually do these seasons more back to back , it's a whole lot easier . For me to like a lot of it is the fact that when I first start editing , it's like I almost have to relearn a lot of things plus our app updates like seven times a day .
Speaker 2So they're always changing something on it and , like this last one , this this season was a massive change on that platform , so I really did have to reteach a lot of what I do with the new version of this app , and so a lot of it is just me getting started to edit .
Speaker 2And so , if this is , I mean I've been editing this whole season , both the whole episodes and like inserting things and doing music , and there's never been a time that I've been as efficient in making music for podcasting as I am right now . So pretty much every idea I come up with I can sit down because I already have a template open with all these instruments that I have options to play with . I can usually come up with an idea and have a good base for it already within like 30 to 45 minutes .
Speaker 2So it does not take long at all , and so there's a lot of reasons why I think it's 100% doable to do a fall season .
Speaker 1Okay , good , well , that's what we'll do . Yeah , we'll try not to rely too much on other people so we don't have to do schedules as much yeah . Although well , actually no , I want to do more with Sam . Did she ever say yes ? Yes , my plan , my sneaky plan hopefully she doesn't listen to this is to get on and do one with her and then , in that , talk her into doing a bunch of other episodes because that's kind of what we did last time , if you remember .
Speaker 2That's true . Yeah , she actually got more comfortable throughout the season .
Speaker 1It's like oh yeah , you enjoy this conversation . How about we do five more ?
Speaker 2yeah , yeah , it's , uh , it's a lot more it's , it's , it's more fun . I'll say we're also better podcasters when she's like . I feel like that was the least edited episode of the whole season . It was the most recent one where it was the most recent episode we recorded in time and also was with her , and so I feel like and we had already done a bunch by that point , I think with her We'd done like two or three others , and so it was so efficient . We just , we all just said exactly , I barely touched , I just like took out gaps , um , and lined all the audio up , but I didn't it , it was , it was nice . I'm like we should just always do that , but then what's the fun of that ? I guess ?
Speaker 1right , well , I don't know , I edit this one , yeah yeah , if you had to edit this , we wouldn't be doing this , that's true yeah , yeah , that is true 100 all
Convenience vs Connection
Speaker 1right . Well , this was afterthoughts convenience versus connection . I don't really know why I called it that , but we'll stick with it yeah , I don't know if you went much into the convenience side of things .
Speaker 2I talked about it , yeah , okay , yeah , well , that's good . Hope you like the real episode . Bye bye .