{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.13,"endTime":6.24,"body":"The AIBP ASEAN B2B"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.13,"endTime":6.24,"body":"growth podcast is a series of"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.24,"endTime":9.81,"body":"fireside chats with business"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.24,"endTime":9.81,"body":"leaders in Southeast Asia"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.96,"endTime":14.28,"body":"focused on growth in the region."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.96,"endTime":14.28,"body":"Topics discussed include"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.28,"endTime":17.97,"body":"business strategy, sales and"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.28,"endTime":17.97,"body":"marketing, enterprise technology"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":18.03,"endTime":19.14,"body":"and innovation."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":30.28,"endTime":32.95,"body":"Greetings and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":30.28,"endTime":32.95,"body":"welcome to the ASEAN B2B growth"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":32.95,"endTime":36.82,"body":"podcast. In today's episode, we"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":32.95,"endTime":36.82,"body":"shine the spotlight on cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":36.82,"endTime":40.27,"body":"security in the Philippines,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":36.82,"endTime":40.27,"body":"this conversation took place"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":40.27,"endTime":43.51,"body":"during the 41st edition of the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":40.27,"endTime":43.51,"body":"ASEAN innovation business"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":43.51,"endTime":47.11,"body":"platform Philippines Conference"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":43.51,"endTime":47.11,"body":"and Exhibition held at Marriott"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":47.11,"endTime":50.65,"body":"Manila with Mr. Kanishka Kumar"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":47.11,"endTime":50.65,"body":"Sinha, Director of"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":50.68,"endTime":54.28,"body":"Hyperautomation Professional"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":50.68,"endTime":54.28,"body":"Services from Ingram Micro ,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":54.43,"endTime":58.69,"body":"hosting the discussion, along"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":54.43,"endTime":58.69,"body":"with Mr. Alexander Antukh, Chief"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":58.69,"endTime":62.71,"body":"Information Security Officer"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":58.69,"endTime":62.71,"body":"from Aboitiz Power, Mr. Marlon"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":62.74,"endTime":66.64,"body":"Sorongon, Chief Information"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":62.74,"endTime":66.64,"body":"Security Officer of Maybank,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":66.64,"endTime":71.08,"body":"Philippines, and Dr Francisco"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":66.64,"endTime":71.08,"body":"Castillo, Senior Vice President,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":71.11,"endTime":74.71,"body":"Chief Information Officer from"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":71.11,"endTime":74.71,"body":"Maynilad Water Services, on the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":74.71,"endTime":77.5,"body":"current state of cyber security"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":74.71,"endTime":77.5,"body":"in the Philippines."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":77.99,"endTime":79.91,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":77.99,"endTime":79.91,"body":"think the topic from a digital"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":79.91,"endTime":83.24,"body":"transformation in cyber"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":79.91,"endTime":83.24,"body":"security. So would like to the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":83.24,"endTime":86.51,"body":"first question, would like to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":83.24,"endTime":86.51,"body":"understand more as we look into"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":86.51,"endTime":92.81,"body":"digital transformation, how does"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":86.51,"endTime":92.81,"body":"cyber security play a role in"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":92.84,"endTime":98.27,"body":"enabling digital transformation"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":92.84,"endTime":98.27,"body":"for organizations? So, Alex, why"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":98.27,"endTime":100.16,"body":"don't we go this way this time?"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":98.27,"endTime":100.16,"body":"Start with"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":100.16,"endTime":103.01,"body":"you,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":100.16,"endTime":103.01,"body":"right? So, well, that's a very"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":103.13,"endTime":105.95,"body":"broad question, right? So I"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":103.13,"endTime":105.95,"body":"guess we maybe to our first"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":105.95,"endTime":111.92,"body":"round, then the second at the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":105.95,"endTime":111.92,"body":"time itself. Well, the original"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":111.92,"endTime":116.0,"body":"purpose of cybersecurity is to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":111.92,"endTime":116.0,"body":"enable the business, right? So"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":116.0,"endTime":120.32,"body":"what we do to protect from the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":116.0,"endTime":120.32,"body":"threats and from the risks is"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":120.32,"endTime":123.83,"body":"really to keep the business"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":120.32,"endTime":123.83,"body":"running and to hopefully"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":123.89,"endTime":127.13,"body":"increase the revenue. 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And it means that we"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":178.1,"endTime":181.76,"body":"need to be aware of what is the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":178.1,"endTime":181.76,"body":"technology of how it's connected"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":181.76,"endTime":187.07,"body":"to already existing ones, how we"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":181.76,"endTime":187.07,"body":"protect that, to even redefine"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":187.07,"endTime":191.33,"body":"the role of cybersecurity in"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":187.07,"endTime":191.33,"body":"general. So I'd say that there"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":191.33,"endTime":195.74,"body":"are two main parts to it. Number"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":191.33,"endTime":195.74,"body":"one, is really okay. There is a"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":195.74,"endTime":199.04,"body":"new technology, new project, new"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":195.74,"endTime":199.04,"body":"way of work, so we need to think"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":199.04,"endTime":202.16,"body":"of how to protect that. And then"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":199.04,"endTime":202.16,"body":"there is another part, or part,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":202.19,"endTime":205.91,"body":"which is innovation in cyber"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":202.19,"endTime":205.91,"body":"security. So what are novel ways"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":205.91,"endTime":209.45,"body":"of how we protect that? And I"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":205.91,"endTime":209.45,"body":"believe we will talk a lot about"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":209.45,"endTime":212.9,"body":"that in the panel, so I will not"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":209.45,"endTime":212.9,"body":"take all the time to talk about"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":213.2,"endTime":216.32,"body":"so I'd say to start with,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":213.2,"endTime":216.32,"body":"probably we just need to focus"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":216.32,"endTime":218.93,"body":"on those two parts, and then we"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":216.32,"endTime":218.93,"body":"continue here."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":219.68,"endTime":221.63,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":219.68,"endTime":221.63,"body":"So yeah, I think I couldn't"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":221.63,"endTime":225.89,"body":"agree more to Alex"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":221.63,"endTime":225.89,"body":"transformation introduce a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":225.89,"endTime":229.37,"body":"paradigm shift the way,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":225.89,"endTime":229.37,"body":"especially in the financial"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":229.37,"endTime":232.91,"body":"industry. So we have introduced"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":229.37,"endTime":232.91,"body":"a lot of process improvements."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":234.26,"endTime":239.48,"body":"An online platform has to be"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":234.26,"endTime":239.48,"body":"extended also to our users and"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":239.48,"endTime":245.09,"body":"our clients. So I think my"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":239.48,"endTime":245.09,"body":"personal tune is, while your"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":245.57,"endTime":250.04,"body":"technology matures, security"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":245.57,"endTime":250.04,"body":"also has to follow in terms of"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":250.04,"endTime":256.4,"body":"product. So that security budget"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":250.04,"endTime":256.4,"body":"which supports these initiatives"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":256.61,"endTime":261.2,"body":"must also use. 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So it is something"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":269.18,"endTime":274.22,"body":"that we need to consider while,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":269.18,"endTime":274.22,"body":"while we while we introduce some"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":274.22,"endTime":278.27,"body":"sort of projects or some sort of"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":274.22,"endTime":278.27,"body":"application system to support"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":278.27,"endTime":282.23,"body":"this transformation, adversaries"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":278.27,"endTime":282.23,"body":"also do some research, how to"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":282.23,"endTime":286.79,"body":"explore the system. So I think"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":282.23,"endTime":286.79,"body":"the slope of security must also"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":286.79,"endTime":290.42,"body":"in parallel in terms of your"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":286.79,"endTime":290.42,"body":"innovations and your"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":290.48,"endTime":294.2,"body":"initiatives. I think that's my"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":290.48,"endTime":294.2,"body":"view. Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":294.2,"endTime":297.2,"body":"well,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":294.2,"endTime":297.2,"body":"more or less I agree with the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":297.2,"endTime":300.29,"body":"other opinions. But just to add"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":297.2,"endTime":300.29,"body":"I mean this. Digital"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":300.29,"endTime":304.22,"body":"transformation, really nothing"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":300.29,"endTime":304.22,"body":"new. I mean, it's just a cute"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":304.22,"endTime":310.19,"body":"word that we use nowadays, but"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":304.22,"endTime":310.19,"body":"ever since IT was started, we've"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":310.19,"endTime":313.55,"body":"been, you know, the whole"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":310.19,"endTime":313.55,"body":"industry has been slowly"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":313.91,"endTime":320.45,"body":"digitizing or using more"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":313.91,"endTime":320.45,"body":"systems. So unfortunately, as"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":320.48,"endTime":326.54,"body":"you have more systems your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":320.48,"endTime":326.54,"body":"attack landscape, like it, or"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":327.02,"endTime":330.8,"body":"you have to defend more things,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":327.02,"endTime":330.8,"body":"and you have more things which"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":330.8,"endTime":335.36,"body":"are vulnerable. 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You"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":357.71,"endTime":364.76,"body":"You just have to be continuously"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":357.71,"endTime":364.76,"body":"trying to understand the hackers"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":365.06,"endTime":369.98,"body":"can take advantage of the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":365.06,"endTime":369.98,"body":"systems that you have in trying"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":369.98,"endTime":370.16,"body":"to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":371.459,"endTime":374.279,"body":"great,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":371.459,"endTime":374.279,"body":"great analogy. 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How? What"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":402.899,"endTime":407.339,"body":"are the strategies I mean, your"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":402.899,"endTime":407.339,"body":"organizations have taken, or"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":407.339,"endTime":412.379,"body":"would you suggest to stay ahead"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":407.339,"endTime":412.379,"body":"of the curve in terms of cyber"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":412.379,"endTime":418.169,"body":"security? 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In Fred can tell also,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":582.62,"endTime":586.88,"body":"I think this is important in the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":587.03,"endTime":590.48,"body":"in the sense that if there is an"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":587.03,"endTime":590.48,"body":"attack on somebody, somewhere in"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":590.48,"endTime":593.96,"body":"this world, and we are aware of"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":590.48,"endTime":593.96,"body":"that, it will be nice also to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":594.05,"endTime":598.55,"body":"the necessary measures. 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Great."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":634.34,"endTime":636.11,"body":"So"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":634.34,"endTime":636.11,"body":"I mean, if I summarize key"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":636.11,"endTime":639.92,"body":"points are, be a student,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":636.11,"endTime":639.92,"body":"continue to be a student. Keep"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":639.92,"endTime":646.07,"body":"learning. Collaborate more and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":639.92,"endTime":646.07,"body":"ahead of the curve, brings to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":646.1,"endTime":650.42,"body":"brings to another interesting"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":646.1,"endTime":650.42,"body":"point. 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It will not defend it"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":848.61,"endTime":854.31,"body":"at all, but it could reinforce."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":854.31,"endTime":859.41,"body":"Imagine, you have 1200 employee,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":854.31,"endTime":859.41,"body":"and you equip them with the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":859.41,"endTime":863.01,"body":"right mindset, with the right"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":859.41,"endTime":863.01,"body":"knowledge how to discern and"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":863.01,"endTime":865.56,"body":"identify threats, they will"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":863.01,"endTime":865.56,"body":"become your ally."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":868.4,"endTime":870.74,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":868.4,"endTime":870.74,"body":"well, we had the data privacy"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":870.74,"endTime":876.56,"body":"act some years ago. Was good"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":870.74,"endTime":876.56,"body":"because it sets a framework for"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":876.56,"endTime":881.8,"body":"Lean companies in terms of how"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":876.56,"endTime":881.8,"body":"to manage pi and all that. But I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":881.8,"endTime":885.82,"body":"remember that when this was"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":881.8,"endTime":885.82,"body":"implemented, the first effect"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":885.82,"endTime":889.96,"body":"is, anywhere you call, right,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":885.82,"endTime":889.96,"body":"they will say, please press one"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":889.96,"endTime":894.22,"body":"if you agree with sharing your"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":889.96,"endTime":894.22,"body":"private information. So I think"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":894.22,"endTime":897.52,"body":"we have to go beyond that,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":894.22,"endTime":897.52,"body":"right? We have to really be"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":897.64,"endTime":902.64,"body":"protecting our PII so. And I"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":897.64,"endTime":902.64,"body":"don't know, but I feel that it's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":902.7,"endTime":906.66,"body":"we're losing this battle. Every"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":902.7,"endTime":906.66,"body":"day I get a call and they know"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":906.66,"endTime":910.68,"body":"me. They know my name and myself"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":906.66,"endTime":910.68,"body":"or I never disclosed, even when"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":910.68,"endTime":916.38,"body":"I look emails coming to the very"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":910.68,"endTime":916.38,"body":"targeted, and they're very"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":916.38,"endTime":923.06,"body":"crafty, well crafted, you know,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":916.38,"endTime":923.06,"body":"to specific executives. So, you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":923.06,"endTime":926.42,"body":"know, there are leaks"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":923.06,"endTime":926.42,"body":"everywhere. And as mentioned"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":926.42,"endTime":930.32,"body":"earlier, I think the weakest"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":926.42,"endTime":930.32,"body":"link is really people, because"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":930.32,"endTime":933.86,"body":"you just, it just takes one"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":930.32,"endTime":933.86,"body":"mistake and there goes. Your PII"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":933.98,"endTime":939.74,"body":"is everywhere. You could just"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":933.98,"endTime":939.74,"body":"take a photo, for example. So"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":939.92,"endTime":945.94,"body":"nevertheless, as my colleague"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":939.92,"endTime":945.94,"body":"here said, we have to educate"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":946.0,"endTime":950.56,"body":"people as to what can, what"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":946.0,"endTime":950.56,"body":"cannot. People normally are not"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":950.56,"endTime":956.02,"body":"even aware occasion of what they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":950.56,"endTime":956.02,"body":"do, right? So this will be a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":956.02,"endTime":957.82,"body":"constant reminder."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":959.74,"endTime":961.98,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":959.74,"endTime":961.98,"body":"want to add another part to this"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":961.98,"endTime":967.14,"body":"question, resisting in my role,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":961.98,"endTime":967.14,"body":"are two sides of the table, and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":967.14,"endTime":972.78,"body":"a lot of time we see resentment"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":967.14,"endTime":972.78,"body":"from, you know, when you have to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":972.78,"endTime":978.48,"body":"go through a long cyber security"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":972.78,"endTime":978.48,"body":"event with a customer, you Know,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":978.78,"endTime":984.86,"body":"go checks and balances a lot of"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":978.78,"endTime":984.86,"body":"time users see it as a hindrance"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":984.86,"endTime":990.86,"body":"to innovation. So what are your"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":984.86,"endTime":990.86,"body":"comments on that, when you see"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":990.86,"endTime":996.5,"body":"this kind of business, resent,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":990.86,"endTime":996.5,"body":"why have people? Is, how would"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":996.5,"endTime":999.86,"body":"you educate? Because, you know,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":996.5,"endTime":999.86,"body":"I personally see both the sides"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":999.92,"endTime":1003.3,"body":"and a lot of time we come"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":999.92,"endTime":1003.3,"body":"through that, is there a way to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1003.3,"endTime":1006.66,"body":"shorten the process? Is there a"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1003.3,"endTime":1006.66,"body":"way to educate people better?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1007.56,"endTime":1011.7,"body":"And"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1007.56,"endTime":1011.7,"body":"actually, I will answer it as CI"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1011.7,"endTime":1016.56,"body":"open, as an IT, because the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1011.7,"endTime":1016.56,"body":"problem is that, whether you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1016.56,"endTime":1025.28,"body":"like it or not, any IT security"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1016.56,"endTime":1025.28,"body":"measure, I always was ease of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1025.28,"endTime":1033.32,"body":"use a way, or that's, there's no"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1025.28,"endTime":1033.32,"body":"no doubt, right? So the trick"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1033.32,"endTime":1038.24,"body":"here is you have to strike a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1033.32,"endTime":1038.24,"body":"balance right between making it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1038.24,"endTime":1042.16,"body":"secure and making it convenient."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1038.24,"endTime":1042.16,"body":"I mean, the most secure thing is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1042.52,"endTime":1052.84,"body":"right, but don't do business,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1042.52,"endTime":1052.84,"body":"right? So yes, in our case, we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1052.84,"endTime":1057.28,"body":"take it very seriously. We"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1052.84,"endTime":1057.28,"body":"debate as to what extent"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1057.76,"endTime":1061.38,"body":"somebody gave an example, right?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1057.76,"endTime":1061.38,"body":"The 18 character. In character,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1061.44,"endTime":1065.04,"body":"I think Tina 18 character"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1061.44,"endTime":1065.04,"body":"password. And when we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1065.04,"endTime":1069.24,"body":"implemented that, we were"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1065.04,"endTime":1069.24,"body":"expecting a huge backlash. And"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1069.24,"endTime":1075.24,"body":"so nobody complained, you know,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1069.24,"endTime":1075.24,"body":"but in order to have to explain"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1075.24,"endTime":1080.66,"body":"why, right, the other thing is,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1075.24,"endTime":1080.66,"body":"when you explain things, sorry,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1080.66,"endTime":1085.34,"body":"but this is for it, security"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1080.66,"endTime":1085.34,"body":"guys, is it has to be explained"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1085.34,"endTime":1089.3,"body":"simple because sometimes, you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1085.34,"endTime":1089.3,"body":"know, there's so much IT"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1089.3,"endTime":1093.56,"body":"security gibberish that users"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1089.3,"endTime":1093.56,"body":"don't understand. It has to be"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1093.56,"endTime":1098.0,"body":"explaining simple terms. For"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1093.56,"endTime":1098.0,"body":"example, you say you're gonna"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1098.0,"endTime":1102.04,"body":"use your your internet, right?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1098.0,"endTime":1102.04,"body":"Then you go to a website, don't"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1102.04,"endTime":1105.88,"body":"say, take a look at the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1102.04,"endTime":1105.88,"body":"certificate, if it's SSL, TLS,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1106.18,"endTime":1109.18,"body":"you know, point zero. I mean,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1106.18,"endTime":1109.18,"body":"they don't understand that. But"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1109.18,"endTime":1114.76,"body":"what they do understand, hey, if"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1109.18,"endTime":1114.76,"body":"you're in a Wi Fi using what you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1114.76,"endTime":1120.48,"body":"call this, I mean confidential"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1114.76,"endTime":1120.48,"body":"information, right? Because it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1120.96,"endTime":1125.04,"body":"to be secure. I mean, so the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1120.96,"endTime":1125.04,"body":"language has to be changed,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1125.04,"endTime":1128.58,"body":"otherwise people don't"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1125.04,"endTime":1128.58,"body":"understand, you know, and many"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1128.58,"endTime":1130.92,"body":"times I think that's, that's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1128.58,"endTime":1130.92,"body":"where we fail."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1133.619,"endTime":1136.799,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1133.619,"endTime":1136.799,"body":"I agree with your people. The"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1136.799,"endTime":1140.299,"body":"only language that this the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1136.799,"endTime":1140.299,"body":"management business would"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1140.299,"endTime":1144.979,"body":"understand space. So you need to"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1140.299,"endTime":1144.979,"body":"translate this specific areas"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1145.039,"endTime":1151.999,"body":"that you see potential tax at"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1145.039,"endTime":1151.999,"body":"company to strike it. No. Strike"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1151.999,"endTime":1155.359,"body":"it at the bottom. Tell the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1151.999,"endTime":1155.359,"body":"management that if we do this,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1155.539,"endTime":1159.619,"body":"this is the risk. If you don't"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1155.539,"endTime":1159.619,"body":"do this is the risk. So somehow,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1160.879,"endTime":1166.539,"body":"the productivity, they tend to"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1160.879,"endTime":1166.539,"body":"see security as, I mean, a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1166.539,"endTime":1170.019,"body":"showstopper. 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But if you were able"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1170.019,"endTime":1173.979,"body":"to communicate clearly to them"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1174.339,"endTime":1178.959,"body":"that consequence, if you don't"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1174.339,"endTime":1178.959,"body":"comply, you don't do it, then"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1179.139,"endTime":1181.919,"body":"definitely they will realize"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1179.139,"endTime":1181.919,"body":"there are a lot of use"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1181.979,"endTime":1186.239,"body":"especially facing the board, the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1181.979,"endTime":1186.239,"body":"management, and you try to just"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1186.299,"endTime":1190.199,"body":"request justify for budgets."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1186.299,"endTime":1190.199,"body":"Then suddenly they tell you what"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1190.199,"endTime":1193.199,"body":"sense of this, what's the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1190.199,"endTime":1193.199,"body":"importance of this? 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Don't do this."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1207.799,"endTime":1211.819,"body":"Then when they go to sleep, they"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1207.799,"endTime":1211.819,"body":"will ask themselves, maybe"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1211.879,"endTime":1215.179,"body":"Martin was saying earlier was"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1211.879,"endTime":1215.179,"body":"true, yeah. Let's approve the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1215.179,"endTime":1219.919,"body":"budget. I just something that"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1215.179,"endTime":1219.919,"body":"you need management. These are"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1219.919,"endTime":1221.739,"body":"the risk outweigh benefit."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1223.0,"endTime":1225.28,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1223.0,"endTime":1225.28,"body":"really like that, because, to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1226.0,"endTime":1229.96,"body":"the point you mentioned, keep it"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1226.0,"endTime":1229.96,"body":"simple, I believe that's that's"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1229.96,"endTime":1235.24,"body":"very important for business."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1229.96,"endTime":1235.24,"body":"Because as a business user, you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1235.24,"endTime":1239.08,"body":"may not understand everything"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1235.24,"endTime":1239.08,"body":"and why, and usually the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1239.08,"endTime":1245.82,"body":"complaints are delays, budget."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1239.08,"endTime":1245.82,"body":"But one aspect, the next thing I"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1245.82,"endTime":1250.74,"body":"would really like to ask is when"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1245.82,"endTime":1250.74,"body":"it comes to best practices, when"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1250.74,"endTime":1255.18,"body":"it comes to, you know, creating"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1250.74,"endTime":1255.18,"body":"the cyber security framework,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1255.42,"endTime":1260.72,"body":"what are the best practice you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1255.42,"endTime":1260.72,"body":"would suggest from going and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1260.72,"endTime":1266.0,"body":"making a step by step aspect of"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1260.72,"endTime":1266.0,"body":"security. What's the straw man"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1266.54,"endTime":1267.14,"body":"that?"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1269.46,"endTime":1273.72,"body":"Well,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1269.46,"endTime":1273.72,"body":"to be honest, I haven't faced"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1273.72,"endTime":1277.86,"body":"internal dialog with regards to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1273.72,"endTime":1277.86,"body":"the previous comment. I probably"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1277.86,"endTime":1284.16,"body":"will say something, but I think"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1277.86,"endTime":1284.16,"body":"that we put too much attention"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1284.88,"endTime":1288.96,"body":"to the end user. Sense that"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1284.88,"endTime":1288.96,"body":"there definitely should be"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1289.35,"endTime":1292.86,"body":"security awareness, the basic"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1289.35,"endTime":1292.86,"body":"one. But then at the same time,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1292.86,"endTime":1295.77,"body":"we say that we need to explain"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1292.86,"endTime":1295.77,"body":"it in a very simple terms, and"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1295.77,"endTime":1299.4,"body":"that the end user is not the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1295.77,"endTime":1299.4,"body":"expert, which I agree with. 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I probably do not"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1314.22,"endTime":1318.51,"body":"completely agree that security"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1314.22,"endTime":1318.51,"body":"always needs to be a burden. And"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1318.51,"endTime":1324.21,"body":"there was exactly the the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1318.51,"endTime":1324.21,"body":"example of password Blitz, I"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1324.21,"endTime":1328.02,"body":"think the number one incentive"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1324.21,"endTime":1328.02,"body":"for the users to do that is"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1328.02,"endTime":1330.18,"body":"because it's easier, because you"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1328.02,"endTime":1330.18,"body":"don't need to remember any"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1330.18,"endTime":1333.06,"body":"password, but then it more"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1330.18,"endTime":1333.06,"body":"secure, and in a way, it"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1333.06,"endTime":1336.78,"body":"actually fixes one of the issues"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1333.06,"endTime":1336.78,"body":"of the phishing if we talk"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1336.78,"endTime":1338.34,"body":"about, well,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1338.719,"endTime":1340.779,"body":"you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1338.719,"endTime":1340.779,"body":"agree it's a burden. You seem to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1340.779,"endTime":1343.719,"body":"memorize the lead team"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1340.779,"endTime":1343.719,"body":"character, but, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1343.72,"endTime":1345.94,"body":"yeah,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1343.72,"endTime":1345.94,"body":"but passwordless is all slide it"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1345.94,"endTime":1353.2,"body":"down, no. But passwordless is a"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1345.94,"endTime":1353.2,"body":"security feature, so it is"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1353.2,"endTime":1356.62,"body":"something new, and in this way,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1353.2,"endTime":1356.62,"body":"again, we are helping the user."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1356.98,"endTime":1361.38,"body":"So I think having security by"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1356.98,"endTime":1361.38,"body":"default is equally as important."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1361.38,"endTime":1366.48,"body":"And so I actually believe that"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1361.38,"endTime":1366.48,"body":"the end users fail security"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1366.9,"endTime":1372.48,"body":"reasons, number one and number"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1366.9,"endTime":1372.48,"body":"two, it's more beneficial to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1372.48,"endTime":1375.9,"body":"them to fail than not to fail."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1372.48,"endTime":1375.9,"body":"So if you need to access your"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1375.9,"endTime":1379.62,"body":"email while you're connected to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1375.9,"endTime":1379.62,"body":"public Wi Fi, your boss expects"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1379.62,"endTime":1385.34,"body":"you to send a report. And if you"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1379.62,"endTime":1385.34,"body":"can do that, you will, unless"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1385.34,"endTime":1388.4,"body":"you have an incentive that you"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1385.34,"endTime":1388.4,"body":"will be probably fired if you do"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1388.4,"endTime":1391.52,"body":"so and you get caught, or maybe"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1388.4,"endTime":1391.52,"body":"you have an opinion, and then,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1391.76,"endTime":1395.84,"body":"you know, it is a bit more"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1391.76,"endTime":1395.84,"body":"protective. So I'd say that,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1397.1,"endTime":1400.18,"body":"except, instead of just saying"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1397.1,"endTime":1400.18,"body":"that the users really have to be"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1400.18,"endTime":1407.74,"body":"that educated and, you know, try"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1400.18,"endTime":1407.74,"body":"to make that flow of, well,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1408.04,"endTime":1411.64,"body":"hacks and so on. We probably, as"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1408.04,"endTime":1411.64,"body":"the industry, also need to think"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1411.64,"endTime":1415.72,"body":"a bit more of the customer"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1411.64,"endTime":1415.72,"body":"experience of being secure by"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1415.72,"endTime":1420.66,"body":"default and of just limiting the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1415.72,"endTime":1420.66,"body":"possibilities to fatal. So"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1420.84,"endTime":1423.78,"body":"that's an addition to the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1420.84,"endTime":1423.78,"body":"periods. And I'm not sure I"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1423.78,"endTime":1426.0,"body":"actually answered your question."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1423.78,"endTime":1426.0,"body":"Let me go"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1426.0,"endTime":1428.22,"body":"back"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1426.0,"endTime":1428.22,"body":"to the question. I think what I"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1428.22,"endTime":1431.34,"body":"wanted to we talked about this"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1428.22,"endTime":1431.34,"body":"is we talked about partnership."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1432.18,"endTime":1436.02,"body":"How does that? You know, if one"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1432.18,"endTime":1436.02,"body":"has to think about that straw"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1436.02,"endTime":1440.78,"body":"man between industry, practices,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1436.02,"endTime":1440.78,"body":"government, you talked about a"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1440.78,"endTime":1444.74,"body":"wider net. So what are the some"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1440.78,"endTime":1444.74,"body":"suggestions, or, you know,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1445.22,"endTime":1450.32,"body":"recommendation you provide on a"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1445.22,"endTime":1450.32,"body":"cyber security standpoint to"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1450.32,"endTime":1454.4,"body":"utilize this collaboration, the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1450.32,"endTime":1454.4,"body":"larger framework and partnership"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1454.64,"endTime":1458.3,"body":"within industry, outside"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1454.64,"endTime":1458.3,"body":"industry, cyber scared. And the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1458.3,"endTime":1461.44,"body":"question is, sorry, the question"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1458.3,"endTime":1461.44,"body":"is, what? What would you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1461.44,"endTime":1465.88,"body":"highlight on the partnership"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1461.44,"endTime":1465.88,"body":"aspect building cyber security"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1466.36,"endTime":1471.4,"body":"through industry partners and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1466.36,"endTime":1471.4,"body":"other agents? 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I would say the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1481.259,"endTime":1484.199,"body":"most applicable for us is the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1484.199,"endTime":1490.319,"body":"NISD and ISO collective. 2761"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1484.199,"endTime":1490.319,"body":"it's a formation, security"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1490.319,"endTime":1494.759,"body":"management system. It's an"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1490.319,"endTime":1494.759,"body":"industry applicable standards so"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1494.759,"endTime":1499.919,"body":"far. What we adopt is the NISD."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1494.759,"endTime":1499.919,"body":"It's, I think it's one of the."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1499.999,"endTime":1506.179,"body":"Conference. But I can also"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1499.999,"endTime":1506.179,"body":"recommend that from an"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1506.179,"endTime":1511.879,"body":"organization that has different"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1506.179,"endTime":1511.879,"body":"appetite. Of course, company you"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1511.879,"endTime":1517.159,"body":"have, your appetite is defined"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1511.879,"endTime":1517.159,"body":"by your own market. So banking,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1517.579,"endTime":1522.399,"body":"we also adopt frameworks which"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1517.579,"endTime":1522.399,"body":"is applicable for us. Frameworks"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1522.399,"endTime":1527.019,"body":"are set of standards you can use"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1522.399,"endTime":1527.019,"body":"as reference, convert it to a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1527.019,"endTime":1531.639,"body":"policy. Once you have the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1527.019,"endTime":1531.639,"body":"policy, you make sure that is"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1531.639,"endTime":1535.059,"body":"supported by management. 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Do not just simply"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1548.699,"endTime":1552.599,"body":"adopt everything and execution"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1548.699,"endTime":1552.599,"body":"and implementation and you"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1552.599,"endTime":1556.979,"body":"promise heaven and earth to the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1552.599,"endTime":1556.979,"body":"management that is not something"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1557.039,"endTime":1562.099,"body":"effective, I would say no. So in"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1557.039,"endTime":1562.099,"body":"terms of standards, make sure"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1562.099,"endTime":1566.359,"body":"it's applicable and it address"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1562.099,"endTime":1566.359,"body":"the needs Ernest of the company,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1566.959,"endTime":1567.619,"body":"of someone,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1569.059,"endTime":1570.259,"body":"yeah,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1569.059,"endTime":1570.259,"body":"okay. With regards to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1570.259,"endTime":1577.519,"body":"frameworks, there's a lot of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1570.259,"endTime":1577.519,"body":"free and I but there are"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1577.579,"endTime":1582.399,"body":"strengths for each framework."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1577.579,"endTime":1582.399,"body":"Actually, you think we, we take"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1582.399,"endTime":1586.719,"body":"it from different ones. For if"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1582.399,"endTime":1586.719,"body":"you have industrial system,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1587.379,"endTime":1592.719,"body":"pretty good. 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So I think it's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1613.199,"endTime":1614.699,"body":"elimination, just one,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1616.859,"endTime":1619.379,"body":"add"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1616.859,"endTime":1619.379,"body":"anything. I pretty much agree"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1619.379,"endTime":1623.479,"body":"with this. So there are various"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1619.379,"endTime":1623.479,"body":"frameworks, and they provide the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1623.659,"endTime":1627.019,"body":"blueprints of how certain"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1623.659,"endTime":1627.019,"body":"aspects of the program should be"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1627.019,"endTime":1630.319,"body":"built. 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How do you think the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1655.24,"endTime":1662.1,"body":"expansion of IoT and AI is"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1655.24,"endTime":1662.1,"body":"impacting cyber security and how"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1662.1,"endTime":1665.16,"body":"cyber security is evolving for"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1662.1,"endTime":1665.16,"body":"these"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1668.28,"endTime":1671.1,"body":"Okay,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1668.28,"endTime":1671.1,"body":"so two different things. Let me"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1671.16,"endTime":1677.76,"body":"take different So, IoT. IoT is,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1671.16,"endTime":1677.76,"body":"I would say, different because"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1677.76,"endTime":1683.42,"body":"it touches on the OT side, the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1677.76,"endTime":1683.42,"body":"OT side, sure you are very"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1683.42,"endTime":1687.56,"body":"familiar with as its own"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1683.42,"endTime":1687.56,"body":"particular policy, certificate"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1688.04,"endTime":1694.22,"body":"access, call you, name it. 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Well,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1712.18,"endTime":1717.7,"body":"that's another buzzword, right?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1712.18,"endTime":1717.7,"body":"So now everybody talks AI guy is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1717.82,"endTime":1725.4,"body":"slowly in many of the products"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1717.82,"endTime":1725.4,"body":"that you know it, security,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1725.4,"endTime":1729.12,"body":"products that we are using it"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1725.4,"endTime":1729.12,"body":"has started, actually, several"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1729.12,"endTime":1732.84,"body":"years ago. 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So even"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1738.36,"endTime":1743.48,"body":"knowing anything about anything"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1738.36,"endTime":1743.48,"body":"about AI, I think it's, it is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1743.48,"endTime":1747.98,"body":"really being incorporated in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1743.48,"endTime":1747.98,"body":"many of these products, and the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1747.98,"endTime":1755.06,"body":"ability to detect things beyond"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1747.98,"endTime":1755.06,"body":"simple signature, I think that's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":1755.06,"endTime":1756.08,"body":"the difference."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1758.0,"endTime":1762.04,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1758.0,"endTime":1762.04,"body":"OT is a different framework. It"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1762.04,"endTime":1767.5,"body":"is also they have gaps. OT is a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1762.04,"endTime":1767.5,"body":"different critical"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1767.5,"endTime":1773.08,"body":"infrastructure. Somehow, when,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1767.5,"endTime":1773.08,"body":"when I work for an English role,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1773.68,"endTime":1776.86,"body":"the way they tend to see"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1773.68,"endTime":1776.86,"body":"information security from all"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1776.86,"endTime":1783.66,"body":"this perspective is opposite."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1776.86,"endTime":1783.66,"body":"They prioritize availability,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1784.62,"endTime":1790.56,"body":"integrity and confidentiality."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1784.62,"endTime":1790.56,"body":"PAL it we do the normal one,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1790.8,"endTime":1793.98,"body":"potentiality, integrity and"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1790.8,"endTime":1793.98,"body":"availability,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1794.08,"endTime":1799.54,"body":"or the normal one, yeah, the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1794.08,"endTime":1799.54,"body":"normal ones. Let's see it. And."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1800.5,"endTime":1807.13,"body":"In terms of the other Sorry, I"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1800.5,"endTime":1807.13,"body":"forgot the other thing that you"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1807.13,"endTime":1812.77,"body":"mentioned, IoT. And so cyber"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1807.13,"endTime":1812.77,"body":"security can always leverage"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1812.77,"endTime":1816.28,"body":"with AI. So Kiko is the expert"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1812.77,"endTime":1816.28,"body":"of AI here. I may not be"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1816.46,"endTime":1820.09,"body":"conveying you the best message"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1816.46,"endTime":1820.09,"body":"for AI, but what we're doing"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1820.09,"endTime":1825.28,"body":"security is being took at that"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1820.09,"endTime":1825.28,"body":"time because machine, they don't"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1825.28,"endTime":1830.89,"body":"sleep. They always run, unlike"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1825.28,"endTime":1830.89,"body":"us, to the guitar we sleep. So"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1830.89,"endTime":1835.78,"body":"they're the one telling us, hey,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1830.89,"endTime":1835.78,"body":"something happening malicious."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1835.84,"endTime":1839.65,"body":"So when you woke up, she's the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1835.84,"endTime":1839.65,"body":"one taking charge while you're"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1839.65,"endTime":1843.73,"body":"resting. Then automation is also"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1839.65,"endTime":1843.73,"body":"another thing that can be"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1843.73,"endTime":1848.59,"body":"powered by AI, they can do a lot"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1843.73,"endTime":1848.59,"body":"of things that human cannot. So"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1848.59,"endTime":1854.32,"body":"sometimes we took the"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1848.59,"endTime":1854.32,"body":"convenience of introducing a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1854.32,"endTime":1859.18,"body":"platform that could help our"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1854.32,"endTime":1859.18,"body":"lives easy, but it has a"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1859.18,"endTime":1863.23,"body":"drawback, no, it also introduces"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1859.18,"endTime":1863.23,"body":"a risk that may be unknown to"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1863.23,"endTime":1867.01,"body":"us. Okay, so I think the moral"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1863.23,"endTime":1867.01,"body":"and the ethics of using these"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1867.01,"endTime":1872.5,"body":"technologies should always have"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1867.01,"endTime":1872.5,"body":"humans. The food for AI is data."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1873.4,"endTime":1877.39,"body":"These tools will not work"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1873.4,"endTime":1877.39,"body":"without information with data."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1877.57,"endTime":1881.74,"body":"So it always Reliance must be"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":1877.57,"endTime":1881.74,"body":"defined and must be compared."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1883.599,"endTime":1889.179,"body":"Thanks."},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1883.599,"endTime":1889.179,"body":"So yeah, again, I'm afraid my"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1889.179,"endTime":1894.459,"body":"answer would rather be generic"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1889.179,"endTime":1894.459,"body":"in the sense that we again talk"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1894.459,"endTime":1899.559,"body":"about systemic risk. 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We already"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1904.859,"endTime":1909.599,"body":"saw the largest bot nets because"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1909.599,"endTime":1914.399,"body":"of the insecure, newly connected"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1909.599,"endTime":1914.399,"body":"devices, the routers, for"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1914.399,"endTime":1918.239,"body":"example, we see more and more"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1914.399,"endTime":1918.239,"body":"now that ransomware is not just"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1918.239,"endTime":1923.479,"body":"targeting the data but also the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1918.239,"endTime":1923.479,"body":"ability of the of the company to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1923.959,"endTime":1928.759,"body":"and it's not just in OT even in"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1923.959,"endTime":1928.759,"body":"it, we see more which means that"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1929.059,"endTime":1932.959,"body":"as the system gets more and more"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1929.059,"endTime":1932.959,"body":"complex with new additions, and"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1932.959,"endTime":1936.079,"body":"again, we call it that AI, or"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1932.959,"endTime":1936.079,"body":"the new processes, it doesn't"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1936.079,"endTime":1939.439,"body":"really matter complex. We have"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1936.079,"endTime":1939.439,"body":"in a way, less control over"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1939.439,"endTime":1944.979,"body":"that, and it's relatively easier"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1939.439,"endTime":1944.979,"body":"to disrupt, and once it's"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1944.979,"endTime":1948.399,"body":"disrupted, well, yeah, again,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1944.979,"endTime":1948.399,"body":"may need to pay, or we may need"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1948.399,"endTime":1955.719,"body":"to recover, and so on. So coming"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1948.399,"endTime":1955.719,"body":"back to the very first question,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1955.719,"endTime":1958.779,"body":"again, there are opportunities,"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1955.719,"endTime":1958.779,"body":"in the sense that we may be able"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1958.779,"endTime":1962.099,"body":"to detect some anomalies thanks"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1958.779,"endTime":1962.099,"body":"to AI, or we may use the new"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1962.099,"endTime":1966.119,"body":"tech to hopefully get more"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":1962.099,"endTime":1966.119,"body":"protected. 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But before we go"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":1997.7,"endTime":2001.08,"body":"to the audience questions, one"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2001.08,"endTime":2005.46,"body":"thing I would like to ask"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2001.08,"endTime":2005.46,"body":"specifically, in context of"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2005.46,"endTime":2011.28,"body":"Philippines, where and how you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2005.46,"endTime":2011.28,"body":"see the society aspect, I mean,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2011.28,"endTime":2017.46,"body":"how it is evolving. 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I think"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2039.92,"endTime":2043.12,"body":"this is really important. 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I think all of that will"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2057.04,"endTime":2061.74,"body":"help as well as the mandates to"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2057.04,"endTime":2061.74,"body":"further protect critical"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2061.74,"endTime":2065.22,"body":"infrastructure. So this is good"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2061.74,"endTime":2065.22,"body":"start. I think the rest, which"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2065.22,"endTime":2069.06,"body":"is also part of it is the"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2065.22,"endTime":2069.06,"body":"international cooperation. So"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2069.18,"endTime":2073.14,"body":"for example, we have the regimen"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2069.18,"endTime":2073.14,"body":"one here. 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So I'd say probably"},{"speaker":"Alexander Antukh - AboitizPower","startTime":2092.9,"endTime":2094.76,"body":"we can post now separately."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2096.56,"endTime":2098.72,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2096.56,"endTime":2098.72,"body":"from my personal view, I will"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2098.72,"endTime":2103.06,"body":"say where. Service will continue"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2098.72,"endTime":2103.06,"body":"to grow. Imagine, if you use"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2103.12,"endTime":2107.74,"body":"chat, GPT, in 15 minutes, you"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2103.12,"endTime":2107.74,"body":"can create a script, Python"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2107.74,"endTime":2113.08,"body":"script, to attack company or"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2107.74,"endTime":2113.08,"body":"certain company, you know,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2113.62,"endTime":2118.0,"body":"phishing email. Phishing email"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2113.62,"endTime":2118.0,"body":"in a matter of seconds. 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We"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2201.98,"endTime":2205.64,"body":"cannot win this battle alone."},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2205.64,"endTime":2208.94,"body":"Put the shoulder on the Caesars"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2205.64,"endTime":2208.94,"body":"burden."},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2209.54,"endTime":2212.42,"body":"But"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2209.54,"endTime":2212.42,"body":"if I add an added point for you,"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2212.42,"endTime":2217.7,"body":"especially working in a banking"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2212.42,"endTime":2217.7,"body":"and financial sector which is"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2217.76,"endTime":2221.92,"body":"much more highly regulated, and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2217.76,"endTime":2221.92,"body":"even you have a higher"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2222.1,"endTime":2230.26,"body":"probability of threat. See what"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2222.1,"endTime":2230.26,"body":"is local Philippines, banks and"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2230.26,"endTime":2233.08,"body":"organization are doing. Are at"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2230.26,"endTime":2233.08,"body":"part of the global"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2233.08,"endTime":2235.48,"body":"organizations? Or do you see a"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2233.08,"endTime":2235.48,"body":"gap in that?"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2235.84,"endTime":2238.84,"body":"Yes,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2235.84,"endTime":2238.84,"body":"we we are actually our offices"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2239.23,"endTime":2244.48,"body":"in Malaysia. We have also"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2239.23,"endTime":2244.48,"body":"Singapore as we compare friends"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2244.69,"endTime":2251.08,"body":"from each countries, mass masses"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2244.69,"endTime":2251.08,"body":"from Singapore then Malaysia. We"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2251.08,"endTime":2255.01,"body":"have BNM. 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So we can"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2268.45,"endTime":2272.86,"body":"adapt those guidelines, which is"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2268.45,"endTime":2272.86,"body":"we think applicable to us, but"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2272.86,"endTime":2279.85,"body":"somehow BSP is still our"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2272.86,"endTime":2279.85,"body":"mandate, but in terms of"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2280.0,"endTime":2285.01,"body":"guidelines, in terms of singular"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2280.0,"endTime":2285.01,"body":"PSP will always allow you to"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2285.01,"endTime":2289.51,"body":"implement which they think"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2285.01,"endTime":2289.51,"body":"applicable and appropriate in"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2289.51,"endTime":2292.78,"body":"terms of protecting your"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2289.51,"endTime":2292.78,"body":"information assets. So there's"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2292.78,"endTime":2297.79,"body":"no limit, there's no principles,"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2292.78,"endTime":2297.79,"body":"no beyond that. It's acceptable"},{"speaker":"Marlon Sorongon - Maybank Philippines","startTime":2297.79,"endTime":2299.44,"body":"in terms of three standards."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2300.7,"endTime":2302.94,"body":"Well,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2300.7,"endTime":2302.94,"body":"maybe the message I would like"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2302.94,"endTime":2312.78,"body":"to deliver to the it is very To"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2302.94,"endTime":2312.78,"body":"be honest, I know of many"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2312.78,"endTime":2317.94,"body":"Filipino companies that have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2312.78,"endTime":2317.94,"body":"been hacked will not be changed."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2318.0,"endTime":2322.34,"body":"This is the last time I will get"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2318.0,"endTime":2322.34,"body":"invited if I do that, but just"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2322.34,"endTime":2326.9,"body":"let me it reads like the who's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2322.34,"endTime":2326.9,"body":"who in Philippine business, and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2326.9,"endTime":2332.78,"body":"then report it are more that are"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2326.9,"endTime":2332.78,"body":"hacked. And it's it's really"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2332.78,"endTime":2339.08,"body":"scary, so we have to be on our"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2332.78,"endTime":2339.08,"body":"toes. And every time one of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2339.08,"endTime":2342.94,"body":"these companies, big companies"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2339.08,"endTime":2342.94,"body":"gets hacked, that's what drives"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2342.94,"endTime":2347.62,"body":"investments further, investments"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2342.94,"endTime":2347.62,"body":"in people and in the security"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2348.28,"endTime":2353.8,"body":"measures. 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It's not about our you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2370.86,"endTime":2375.66,"body":"know that if you have there, but"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2375.66,"endTime":2380.78,"body":"it's a matter of when and how do"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2375.66,"endTime":2380.78,"body":"you protect yourself or the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2380.78,"endTime":2384.14,"body":"organization, and how do you"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2380.78,"endTime":2384.14,"body":"being ahead of the curve? How"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2384.14,"endTime":2386.36,"body":"do"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2384.14,"endTime":2386.36,"body":"you recover? How do you attack?"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2387.14,"endTime":2390.44,"body":"Do you have to better than just"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2387.14,"endTime":2390.44,"body":"protect? 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It is"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2407.952,"endTime":2412.55,"body":"important to connect it, but"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2407.952,"endTime":2412.55,"body":"what cyber security measures"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2412.63,"endTime":2417.631,"body":"have you implemented for this in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2412.63,"endTime":2417.631,"body":"connecting IT and OT? For the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2417.711,"endTime":2421.18,"body":"both of you, yes for Dr Kiko and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2417.711,"endTime":2421.18,"body":"also Alex."},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2423.49,"endTime":2429.07,"body":"at IoT, there's a standard. It's"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2423.49,"endTime":2429.07,"body":"called an C 95 it's very old,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2429.28,"endTime":2434.05,"body":"1995 and C 95 take a look at"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2429.28,"endTime":2434.05,"body":"that, because that tells you how"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2434.05,"endTime":2438.61,"body":"you have to architect and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2434.05,"endTime":2438.61,"body":"separate the OT side from the IT"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2438.61,"endTime":2442.48,"body":"side, and how you upgrade and"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2438.61,"endTime":2442.48,"body":"protect it, and that there's a"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2442.48,"endTime":2448.78,"body":"lot of offshoots. Again, can"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2442.48,"endTime":2448.78,"body":"refer you to Isa, that's very"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2448.78,"endTime":2454.57,"body":"good set of nerds that talk"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2448.78,"endTime":2454.57,"body":"about protecting industrial"},{"speaker":"Dr. Francisco Castillo - Maynilad Water","startTime":2454.57,"endTime":2458.14,"body":"assets. 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And I'm not sure if"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2529.72,"endTime":2533.2,"body":"anybody in the audience who are"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2529.72,"endTime":2533.2,"body":"making notes great insights"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2533.2,"endTime":2536.62,"body":"shared, but I'm sure the"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2533.2,"endTime":2536.62,"body":"recording would be available so"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2536.62,"endTime":2540.3,"body":"that can begin to make your"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2536.62,"endTime":2540.3,"body":"notes on all the insights shared"},{"speaker":"Kanishka Kumar Sinha - Ingram Micro","startTime":2540.3,"endTime":2540.96,"body":"on this topic."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2542.58,"endTime":2545.22,"body":"Stay tuned for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2542.58,"endTime":2545.22,"body":"more insights on the current"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2545.22,"endTime":2548.82,"body":"state of cybersecurity across"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2545.22,"endTime":2548.82,"body":"the ASEAN region in the coming"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2548.82,"endTime":2549.72,"body":"episodes,"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2555.75,"endTime":2558.36,"body":"we hope you've"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2555.75,"endTime":2558.36,"body":"enjoyed the episode. 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