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Now we want to move"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":119.61,"endTime":127.92,"body":"on. What would I want to ask"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":127.95,"endTime":133.35,"body":"doctor, Dr Thitipong first,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":127.95,"endTime":133.35,"body":"about, what do you think about"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":133.35,"endTime":138.48,"body":"the Thailand's cyber, cyber"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":133.35,"endTime":138.48,"body":"threat landscape? What's going"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":138.48,"endTime":141.78,"body":"on? What what you're thinking"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":138.48,"endTime":141.78,"body":"about? 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And"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":198.78,"endTime":203.07,"body":"there have been previous"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":198.78,"endTime":203.07,"body":"incident in Thailand that also"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":203.07,"endTime":206.67,"body":"happened to some other"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":203.07,"endTime":206.67,"body":"manufacturing in just this year,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":207.06,"endTime":210.21,"body":"and also even like ransomware,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":207.06,"endTime":210.21,"body":"you know, all those phishing"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":210.21,"endTime":214.65,"body":"mail also happens in every"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":210.21,"endTime":214.65,"body":"industry, including healthcare"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":214.65,"endTime":219.81,"body":"as well. That's pretty normal,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":214.65,"endTime":219.81,"body":"but I also would like to maybe"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":219.96,"endTime":224.13,"body":"think of looking into some other"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":219.96,"endTime":224.13,"body":"new areas, because currently we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":224.13,"endTime":228.18,"body":"have technologies like internet"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":224.13,"endTime":228.18,"body":"of things, especially in medical"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":228.18,"endTime":233.22,"body":"healthcare area, we have what we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":228.18,"endTime":233.22,"body":"call medical Medical Internet of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":233.22,"endTime":238.65,"body":"Things, internet or medical"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":233.22,"endTime":238.65,"body":"things, IOMT. 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So that's what we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":294.42,"endTime":296.94,"body":"that's currently being seen in"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":294.42,"endTime":296.94,"body":"Thailand, for sure."},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":296.0,"endTime":301.94,"body":"Thank you. We must"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":296.0,"endTime":301.94,"body":"say that now. The thief or the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":301.94,"endTime":306.05,"body":"thief are smarter than before."},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":301.94,"endTime":306.05,"body":"Yes, they know very well the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":306.05,"endTime":310.37,"body":"technique. 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But thank"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":388.17,"endTime":391.71,"body":"you, from doctor, from your"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":391.71,"endTime":394.44,"body":"point of view, that medical"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":391.71,"endTime":394.44,"body":"Internet of Things and all these"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":394.44,"endTime":397.83,"body":"vendors problems we have, I"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":394.44,"endTime":397.83,"body":"mean, Zoom posts there, what I"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":397.89,"endTime":402.6,"body":"tell you is an unspoken trend"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":397.89,"endTime":402.6,"body":"spoken words that we fully are"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":402.6,"endTime":405.69,"body":"aware but we're talking about"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":402.6,"endTime":405.69,"body":"it. 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Currently, the"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":421.47,"endTime":425.37,"body":"threat to your organization is"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":425.37,"endTime":428.88,"body":"from your digital marketing"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":425.37,"endTime":428.88,"body":"department, not department."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":429.24,"endTime":432.54,"body":"Digital Marketing Department"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":429.24,"endTime":432.54,"body":"being one of the most crucial"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":432.54,"endTime":437.49,"body":"department you need to manage in"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":432.54,"endTime":437.49,"body":"order to make profit company,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":437.49,"endTime":441.84,"body":"right? 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You got"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":502.05,"endTime":505.05,"body":"loopholes in there, everywhere."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":502.05,"endTime":505.05,"body":"So this trend you're not really"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":505.05,"endTime":508.41,"body":"talking about, but thinking"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":505.05,"endTime":508.41,"body":"about it in terms of the"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":508.41,"endTime":513.42,"body":"breaches, it happens across all"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":508.41,"endTime":513.42,"body":"sector, department, but"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":513.6,"endTime":519.78,"body":"specifically in Hector, we in"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":513.6,"endTime":519.78,"body":"basically every, every single"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":519.78,"endTime":524.04,"body":"corner within our environment."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":519.78,"endTime":524.04,"body":"So if you take a look and scan"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":524.04,"endTime":528.15,"body":"up your whole enterprise"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":524.04,"endTime":528.15,"body":"architecture of yours,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":528.15,"endTime":531.84,"body":"everywhere, so there's risk"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":528.15,"endTime":531.84,"body":"management is needed to start"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":532.18,"endTime":534.52,"body":"somewhere, okay, so"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":532.18,"endTime":534.52,"body":"that, you mean that, uh, when,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":534.52,"endTime":536.98,"body":"when the marketing team, or"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":534.52,"endTime":536.98,"body":"digital marketing team, they"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":536.98,"endTime":542.58,"body":"want to do the something that we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":536.98,"endTime":542.58,"body":"call it? 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Those from Singapore are"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":700.99,"endTime":704.98,"body":"much more in depth compared to"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":700.99,"endTime":704.98,"body":"us here in Thailand. In fact, we"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":704.98,"endTime":710.38,"body":"look to folks in Singapore for"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":704.98,"endTime":710.38,"body":"privacy management. They quite"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":710.38,"endTime":712.51,"body":"well. 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No"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2281.36,"endTime":2285.95,"body":"way. There's no way about this"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2286.16,"endTime":2289.34,"body":"other. There's no other way to"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2286.16,"endTime":2289.34,"body":"do this schedule and unscheduled"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2289.34,"endTime":2292.43,"body":"or planned and unplanned"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2289.34,"endTime":2292.43,"body":"downtown. In this case, you"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2292.43,"endTime":2300.29,"body":"would do plan cyber security"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2292.43,"endTime":2300.29,"body":"event those managers knows"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2300.29,"endTime":2306.89,"body":"what's up. So in do that, some"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2300.29,"endTime":2306.89,"body":"other exercises. You know, the"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2306.89,"endTime":2311.36,"body":"old traditional way is you have"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2306.89,"endTime":2311.36,"body":"your management, team managers"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2311.36,"endTime":2317.39,"body":"and whoever take annual tests,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2311.36,"endTime":2317.39,"body":"but brings small, minimal impact"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2317.42,"endTime":2323.18,"body":"on the BCP. So unplanned tasks,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2317.42,"endTime":2323.18,"body":"plan and unplanned events served"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2323.18,"endTime":2324.11,"body":"really well on this"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":2325.88,"endTime":2328.82,"body":"that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":2325.88,"endTime":2328.82,"body":"pretty much like that, I prefer"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":2328.82,"endTime":2331.52,"body":"unplanned creates lots of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Thitipong Nandhabiwat","startTime":2328.82,"endTime":2331.52,"body":"crisis. Thank"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2332.89,"endTime":2336.79,"body":"you very much. I think"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2332.89,"endTime":2336.79,"body":"one last question before this is"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2336.79,"endTime":2340.6,"body":"quite interesting. So they were"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2336.79,"endTime":2340.6,"body":"asking, Are there financial"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2340.6,"endTime":2344.14,"body":"institutions or banks that"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2340.6,"endTime":2344.14,"body":"provide cyber security"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2344.14,"endTime":2350.44,"body":"technology loans or funding to"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2344.14,"endTime":2350.44,"body":"halt the gap in cyber security"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2351.58,"endTime":2352.81,"body":"requirements right now."},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2357.43,"endTime":2363.52,"body":"It's done, always"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2357.43,"endTime":2363.52,"body":"creation way to buy the car,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2363.85,"endTime":2368.59,"body":"most of the car you pay in to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2363.85,"endTime":2368.59,"body":"land for, for about two one or"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2368.59,"endTime":2377.62,"body":"2% but it need any car you you"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2368.59,"endTime":2377.62,"body":"must try safely and to try to"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2377.65,"endTime":2385.06,"body":"Avoid, to to to to have the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2377.65,"endTime":2385.06,"body":"accident is the same. So I think"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2385.09,"endTime":2390.19,"body":"for for my experience, for the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2385.09,"endTime":2390.19,"body":"others, for the party, for the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2390.19,"endTime":2394.09,"body":"cyber security, for the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2390.19,"endTime":2394.09,"body":"preferable prevention, I think"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2394.09,"endTime":2399.01,"body":"we must talk to the CEO. We have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2394.09,"endTime":2399.01,"body":"to educate the CEO about the PC"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2399.4,"endTime":2407.47,"body":"I know. Many of the know that"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2399.4,"endTime":2407.47,"body":"their BCP, as well as the CEO. 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So I have to try that we,"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2434.17,"endTime":2440.62,"body":"we will be the city, or we we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2434.17,"endTime":2440.62,"body":"want, or we have to fake it for"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2440.62,"endTime":2444.7,"body":"four hours, because when we"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2440.62,"endTime":2444.7,"body":"start the BCP, the process take"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2444.7,"endTime":2450.1,"body":"nine hours. So that was also"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2444.7,"endTime":2450.1,"body":"money to to dig in. But we have"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2450.1,"endTime":2454.75,"body":"to educate the HO, educate the"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2450.1,"endTime":2454.75,"body":"body. What does it pretend of"},{"speaker":"Dr. Polawat","startTime":2454.75,"endTime":2458.86,"body":"the BCP pen? 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All the banks"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2531.63,"endTime":2537.72,"body":"will execute those compliance"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2538.08,"endTime":2542.37,"body":"differently with different"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2538.08,"endTime":2542.37,"body":"technologies, meaning the work"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2542.37,"endTime":2545.67,"body":"breakers and this work"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2542.37,"endTime":2545.67,"body":"instructions that they have to"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2545.67,"endTime":2553.71,"body":"work with other counterparts"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2545.67,"endTime":2553.71,"body":"deal different mechanisms. So in"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2553.71,"endTime":2558.6,"body":"terms of issues that the banking"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2553.71,"endTime":2558.6,"body":"industry in Thailand has take,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2559.2,"endTime":2562.77,"body":"has taken a much bigger step"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2559.2,"endTime":2562.77,"body":"than many other degrees, inter"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2562.77,"endTime":2568.68,"body":"security and private, and they"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2562.77,"endTime":2568.68,"body":"need to do that, because our"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2568.68,"endTime":2572.64,"body":"money is with them, right? So"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2568.68,"endTime":2572.64,"body":"the banking industry to get"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2572.64,"endTime":2576.24,"body":"together and do even better."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2572.64,"endTime":2576.24,"body":"Don't wait just for the Bank of"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2576.24,"endTime":2579.27,"body":"Thailand to tell you what need"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2576.24,"endTime":2579.27,"body":"to be done the bank have,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2579.33,"endTime":2585.48,"body":"because every day that SMS is"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2579.33,"endTime":2585.48,"body":"coming in, I have to disc my Wi"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2585.48,"endTime":2589.11,"body":"Fi first and then check what's"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2585.48,"endTime":2589.11,"body":"going on off of my data. You"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2589.11,"endTime":2592.56,"body":"know, it really scared me now,"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2589.11,"endTime":2592.56,"body":"with all this cyber security"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2592.56,"endTime":2596.4,"body":"scam from center here in"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2592.56,"endTime":2596.4,"body":"Thailand, is too overwhelming."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2597.51,"endTime":2600.9,"body":"Personally, I don't think"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2597.51,"endTime":2600.9,"body":"banking industry enough. Only"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2600.9,"endTime":2604.17,"body":"one bank far came out and say"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2600.9,"endTime":2604.17,"body":"we're not sending you SMS"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2604.44,"endTime":2609.63,"body":"anymore, but, but I still"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2604.44,"endTime":2609.63,"body":"receive SMS from your bank, not"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2609.63,"endTime":2613.44,"body":"from your corporate. It comes"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2609.63,"endTime":2613.44,"body":"from your agent at a local brand"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2614.07,"endTime":2617.67,"body":"reminding me to pay my ho loans."},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2614.07,"endTime":2617.67,"body":"And so far, I can download the"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2617.67,"endTime":2620.97,"body":"app sometime. I'm a little"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2617.67,"endTime":2620.97,"body":"confused, so I don't know if"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2620.97,"endTime":2624.39,"body":"that is still true. So came"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2620.97,"endTime":2624.39,"body":"back. You still need to tell"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2624.39,"endTime":2631.05,"body":"your your branches, send me a"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2624.39,"endTime":2631.05,"body":"personal with a link to be too"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2631.05,"endTime":2633.63,"body":"scary just to share that"},{"speaker":"Togio Prakorn Chayanuwat","startTime":2631.05,"endTime":2633.63,"body":"closing."},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2635.12,"endTime":2637.82,"body":"Thank you very much all"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2635.12,"endTime":2637.82,"body":"of our panelists. It was a very"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2637.82,"endTime":2641.2,"body":"engaging discussion. I hope you"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2637.82,"endTime":2641.2,"body":"enjoyed it as much as I did, and"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2641.2,"endTime":2644.5,"body":"now I know, yes, reach a certain"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2641.2,"endTime":2644.5,"body":"level for someone who's"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2644.5,"endTime":2647.74,"body":"pretending to be asked and"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2644.5,"endTime":2647.74,"body":"reaching out to you. Thank you"},{"speaker":"YY Fong","startTime":2647.74,"endTime":2648.4,"body":"very much."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2649.9,"endTime":2652.54,"body":"Stay tuned for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2649.9,"endTime":2652.54,"body":"more insights on the current"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2652.54,"endTime":2656.08,"body":"state of cyber security across"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2652.54,"endTime":2656.08,"body":"the ASEAN region in the coming"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":2656.14,"endTime":2656.98,"body":"episodes."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2659.72,"endTime":2662.33,"body":"We hope you've"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2659.72,"endTime":2662.33,"body":"enjoyed the episode. 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