{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.1,"endTime":6.21,"body":"The AIBP ASEAN B2B"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.1,"endTime":6.21,"body":"growth podcast is a series of"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.21,"endTime":9.78,"body":"fireside chats with business"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.21,"endTime":9.78,"body":"leaders in Southeast Asia"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.93,"endTime":14.25,"body":"focused on growth in the region."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.93,"endTime":14.25,"body":"Topics discussed include"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.25,"endTime":17.94,"body":"business strategy, sales and"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.25,"endTime":17.94,"body":"marketing, enterprise technology"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":17.97,"endTime":19.11,"body":"and innovation."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":28.08,"endTime":32.16,"body":"Greetings and welcome to the"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":28.08,"endTime":32.16,"body":"ASEAN B2B growth podcast. In"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":32.16,"endTime":36.78,"body":"today's episode, we shine a"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":32.16,"endTime":36.78,"body":"spotlight on generative AI in"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":36.78,"endTime":41.04,"body":"Indonesia, this series of"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":36.78,"endTime":41.04,"body":"conversations with Indonesian"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":41.07,"endTime":44.61,"body":"business leaders took place"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":41.07,"endTime":44.61,"body":"during the IBM consulting forum"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":44.91,"endTime":48.15,"body":"on the 29th of November, 2023"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":52.65,"endTime":54.6,"body":"Good morning, and"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":52.65,"endTime":54.6,"body":"today I'm joined at the IBM"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":54.6,"endTime":59.73,"body":"consulting forum with Pak"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":54.6,"endTime":59.73,"body":"Ridhwan  from Mind ID as usual."},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":59.73,"endTime":62.19,"body":"I think Pak Ridhwan on will be"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":59.73,"endTime":62.19,"body":"able to introduce himself much"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":62.19,"endTime":64.59,"body":"better than I can. So Pak"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":62.19,"endTime":64.59,"body":"Ridhwan, can you just quickly"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":64.59,"endTime":66.87,"body":"introduce yourself and the"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":64.59,"endTime":66.87,"body":"company you work from?"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":67.26,"endTime":70.68,"body":"Okay,"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":67.26,"endTime":70.68,"body":"thank you. So I'm coming from"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":70.68,"endTime":76.02,"body":"the MindID in the industry in"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":70.68,"endTime":76.02,"body":"Indonesiia. So is a SOE holding"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":76.02,"endTime":80.28,"body":"company. 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Gen AI, with"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":337.17,"endTime":340.71,"body":"guardrails so that the data that"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":340.71,"endTime":343.83,"body":"you get feeds into proper"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":340.71,"endTime":343.83,"body":"systems so that the output that"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":343.83,"endTime":347.61,"body":"you get is reliable as well"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":343.83,"endTime":347.61,"body":"perfect. 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How do you actually"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":355.32,"endTime":358.41,"body":"work with external technology"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":355.32,"endTime":358.41,"body":"providers, like, for example,"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":358.41,"endTime":358.95,"body":"IBM?"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":359.91,"endTime":363.21,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":359.91,"endTime":363.21,"body":"actually for IBM is implementing"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":363.21,"endTime":367.53,"body":"the saps for HANA in mind ID"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":363.21,"endTime":367.53,"body":"before, in the 2021, we do the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":367.53,"endTime":371.61,"body":"finance consolidation as well"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":367.53,"endTime":371.61,"body":"with the IBM. 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So we"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":392.31,"endTime":396.27,"body":"are very open with the external"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":392.31,"endTime":396.27,"body":"parties to discuss with us, to"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":396.27,"endTime":400.11,"body":"give us the expertise and then"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":396.27,"endTime":400.11,"body":"bring the values, because I"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":400.14,"endTime":403.8,"body":"understand, because maybe on the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":400.14,"endTime":403.8,"body":"local company just have a"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":403.8,"endTime":406.77,"body":"limited resource and limited"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":403.8,"endTime":406.77,"body":"platform that already"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":406.77,"endTime":410.91,"body":"understand. But I think for the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":406.77,"endTime":410.91,"body":"IBM or others that can give you"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":410.91,"endTime":416.58,"body":"a bring of failures, because a"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":410.91,"endTime":416.58,"body":"mine ID we are, we are, what we"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":416.58,"endTime":420.99,"body":"are like to try the new ones."},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":416.58,"endTime":420.99,"body":"For the example, in the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":421.44,"endTime":425.52,"body":"Financial Consolidation 2013 we"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":421.44,"endTime":425.52,"body":"are the first to use a group"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":425.52,"endTime":430.32,"body":"reporting, okay? In Indonesia,"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":425.52,"endTime":430.32,"body":"okay. And then it is, I think,"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":430.32,"endTime":433.62,"body":"is a very Yeah. I think it's"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":430.32,"endTime":433.62,"body":"when we, when we are starting"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":433.62,"endTime":437.79,"body":"from the scratch, on the first"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":433.62,"endTime":437.79,"body":"and sometimes back and forth"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":437.79,"endTime":440.88,"body":"with the sap. And also the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":437.79,"endTime":440.88,"body":"principle is coming in. But I"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":440.88,"endTime":445.29,"body":"think this is okay. Yeah, we are"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":440.88,"endTime":445.29,"body":"trying to do. But the second"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":445.29,"endTime":447.87,"body":"one, I think, is the very"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":445.29,"endTime":447.87,"body":"important is how we change the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":447.87,"endTime":451.89,"body":"mindset. Because I think it says"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":447.87,"endTime":451.89,"body":"repertoire to you that the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":452.31,"endTime":456.36,"body":"holding is younger than the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":452.31,"endTime":456.36,"body":"subsidiaries, is a very hard"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":456.87,"endTime":460.05,"body":"leadership on the on the"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":456.87,"endTime":460.05,"body":"subsidiaries, and then how we"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":460.08,"endTime":463.2,"body":"embrace the subsidiaries to make"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":460.08,"endTime":463.2,"body":"it okay. This is what we want to"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":463.2,"endTime":466.05,"body":"do, and then so on. Okay?"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":463.2,"endTime":466.05,"body":"Because the reluctance is very"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":466.05,"endTime":468.12,"body":"high. They already have a"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":466.05,"endTime":468.12,"body":"system, they already have a"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":468.12,"endTime":471.69,"body":"process. Then we need to change"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":468.12,"endTime":471.69,"body":"the process, not like a click"},{"speaker":"Ridwan Tahir, MIND ID","startTime":471.69,"endTime":472.32,"body":"button to do."},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":472.32,"endTime":474.69,"body":"Yes, yeah, I"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":472.32,"endTime":474.69,"body":"think that's something that's"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":474.69,"endTime":478.08,"body":"been brought up quite a lot."},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":474.69,"endTime":478.08,"body":"Change the resistance to change,"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":478.08,"endTime":480.75,"body":"and with technology moving so"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":478.08,"endTime":480.75,"body":"fast, we need to keep changing."},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":481.44,"endTime":484.71,"body":"All right. Thank you very much"},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":481.44,"endTime":484.71,"body":"for joining me today. Thank you."},{"speaker":"Irza Suprapto","startTime":485.52,"endTime":486.0,"body":"Stay"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":486.03,"endTime":489.3,"body":"tuned for more"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":486.03,"endTime":489.3,"body":"insights on generative AI in"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":489.3,"endTime":491.67,"body":"Indonesia in the upcoming"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":489.3,"endTime":491.67,"body":"episodes."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":493.65,"endTime":496.92,"body":"We hope you've enjoyed the"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":493.65,"endTime":496.92,"body":"episode. 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