{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.1,"endTime":6.18,"body":"The AIBP ASEAN B2B"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2.1,"endTime":6.18,"body":"growth podcast is a series of"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.18,"endTime":9.75,"body":"fireside chats with business"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":6.18,"endTime":9.75,"body":"leaders in Southeast Asia"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.9,"endTime":14.25,"body":"focused on growth in the region."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":9.9,"endTime":14.25,"body":"Topics discussed include"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.25,"endTime":17.94,"body":"business strategy, sales and"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":14.25,"endTime":17.94,"body":"marketing, enterprise technology"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":17.97,"endTime":19.11,"body":"and innovation."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":28.06,"endTime":31.006,"body":"Hello and welcome"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":28.06,"endTime":31.006,"body":"to the ASEAN B2B growth podcast,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":31.065,"endTime":34.012,"body":"where we sit down with"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":31.065,"endTime":34.012,"body":"individuals responsible for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":34.071,"endTime":37.548,"body":"driving growth within their"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":34.071,"endTime":37.548,"body":"organizations here in Southeast"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":37.607,"endTime":41.026,"body":"Asia. My name is Vanessa, and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":37.607,"endTime":41.026,"body":"I'll be your host for today."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":41.084,"endTime":44.562,"body":"Axiata Group Berhad, commonly"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":41.084,"endTime":44.562,"body":"known as Axiata, is a leading"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":44.621,"endTime":48.157,"body":"digital and telecommunications"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":44.621,"endTime":48.157,"body":"conglomerate across ASEAN and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":48.216,"endTime":51.752,"body":"Southeast Asia. In this episode,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":48.216,"endTime":51.752,"body":"we have Mr. Suresh Sankaran"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":51.811,"endTime":55.347,"body":"Srinivasan group head of cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":51.811,"endTime":55.347,"body":"security and data privacy for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":55.406,"endTime":58.942,"body":"Axiata, joining us. Without"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":55.406,"endTime":58.942,"body":"further ado, may I invite Suresh"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":59.001,"endTime":62.537,"body":"to give a brief introduction of"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":59.001,"endTime":62.537,"body":"yourself. Give us an idea of"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":62.596,"endTime":65.956,"body":"your background, and perhaps"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":62.596,"endTime":65.956,"body":"also a little Intuit for our"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":66.015,"endTime":67.96,"body":"audience who may not be familiar,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":67.0,"endTime":72.31,"body":"sure."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":67.0,"endTime":72.31,"body":"Thank you. Morning everyone, or"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":72.43,"endTime":76.6,"body":"Good day everyone, depending on"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":72.43,"endTime":76.6,"body":"which time of the day. My name"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":76.6,"endTime":81.49,"body":"is Suresh Srinivasan. I head up"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":76.6,"endTime":81.49,"body":"cyber security and data privacy"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":81.49,"endTime":85.51,"body":"for Axiata group Berhad,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":81.49,"endTime":85.51,"body":"Malaysia. Ah, quick intro on the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":85.51,"endTime":89.17,"body":"group first before I introduce"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":85.51,"endTime":89.17,"body":"myself. So Axiata Group is a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":89.53,"endTime":92.98,"body":"telecom and technology"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":89.53,"endTime":92.98,"body":"conglomerate headquartered out"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":92.98,"endTime":97.9,"body":"of Malaysia, with operations in"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":92.98,"endTime":97.9,"body":"about 11 countries in South Asia"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":97.9,"endTime":101.89,"body":"and Southeast Asia, with various"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":97.9,"endTime":101.89,"body":"lines of businesses, such as"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":101.89,"endTime":105.82,"body":"telecom towers, digital"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":101.89,"endTime":105.82,"body":"advertising, FinTech, digital"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":105.82,"endTime":108.97,"body":"banks, so on and so forth. So"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":105.82,"endTime":108.97,"body":"that's a that's an intro on the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":108.97,"endTime":116.53,"body":"group. About me, I have been in"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":108.97,"endTime":116.53,"body":"cyber for 24 years now. This is,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":116.56,"endTime":120.73,"body":"this is what I'm passionate"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":116.56,"endTime":120.73,"body":"about. How did I land up here, I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":120.73,"endTime":124.93,"body":"was a wannabe Armed Forces"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":120.73,"endTime":124.93,"body":"person. Couldn't make it there"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":124.93,"endTime":129.55,"body":"due to certain reasons, so chose"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":124.93,"endTime":129.55,"body":"an alternate career path. I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":129.55,"endTime":134.32,"body":"found that alternate career path"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":129.55,"endTime":134.32,"body":"in this domain, fortunately, so"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":134.32,"endTime":139.66,"body":"that's how I landed up in this I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":134.32,"endTime":139.66,"body":"ended up kind of converting a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":139.72,"endTime":143.89,"body":"passion into a profession, so to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":139.72,"endTime":143.89,"body":"speak. So that's that's a quick"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":143.89,"endTime":144.58,"body":"about me."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":145.98,"endTime":147.72,"body":"It's very"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":145.98,"endTime":147.72,"body":"interesting. And you know, we've"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":147.72,"endTime":151.17,"body":"heard a lot about I've heard a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":147.72,"endTime":151.17,"body":"lot personally from you about"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":151.17,"endTime":153.9,"body":"how you know cyber security is"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":151.17,"endTime":153.9,"body":"being structured within the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":153.9,"endTime":157.53,"body":"Axiata group. We've also heard a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":153.9,"endTime":157.53,"body":"lot from other leaders across"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":157.53,"endTime":160.2,"body":"the ASEAN region that there are"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":157.53,"endTime":160.2,"body":"more and more business leaders"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":160.2,"endTime":164.55,"body":"getting involved in the cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":160.2,"endTime":164.55,"body":"security conversation. Perhaps"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":164.55,"endTime":167.85,"body":"if you could share with us a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":164.55,"endTime":167.85,"body":"little bit more about how cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":167.85,"endTime":170.28,"body":"security is currently being"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":167.85,"endTime":170.28,"body":"structured for the group,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":170.79,"endTime":173.16,"body":"whether it sits under the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":170.79,"endTime":173.16,"body":"business, whether it sits with"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":173.16,"endTime":176.64,"body":"the IT, Are there any direct"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":173.16,"endTime":176.64,"body":"reporting, indirect reporting?"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":176.64,"endTime":177.3,"body":"So to say,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":178.47,"endTime":180.87,"body":"Sure,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":178.47,"endTime":180.87,"body":"so, the way cyber is structured"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":180.87,"endTime":185.46,"body":"within Axiata is very similar to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":180.87,"endTime":185.46,"body":"how it is structured in the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":185.46,"endTime":189.06,"body":"financial services industry. So"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":185.46,"endTime":189.06,"body":"we have a Risk and Compliance"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":189.09,"endTime":193.98,"body":"Office, which which is, which is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":189.09,"endTime":193.98,"body":"headed by my land manager, who"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":193.98,"endTime":197.52,"body":"is the Chief Risk and Compliance"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":193.98,"endTime":197.52,"body":"Officer, who reports into the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":197.52,"endTime":202.62,"body":"group, CEO. So from a function"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":197.52,"endTime":202.62,"body":"perspective, the risk and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":202.62,"endTime":207.09,"body":"compliance sits directly under"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":202.62,"endTime":207.09,"body":"the CEO's office and cyber and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":207.09,"endTime":210.84,"body":"privacy, along with erm and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":207.09,"endTime":210.84,"body":"ethics and integrity, compliance"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":210.84,"endTime":215.52,"body":"forms four pillars within the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":210.84,"endTime":215.52,"body":"risk and compliance function. So"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":215.55,"endTime":219.3,"body":"from a functional reporting"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":215.55,"endTime":219.3,"body":"point of view, we have a direct"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":219.63,"endTime":223.59,"body":"line of reporting into the CEO."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":219.63,"endTime":223.59,"body":"What we have done is we have"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":223.59,"endTime":227.58,"body":"adopted a three lines of defense"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":223.59,"endTime":227.58,"body":"model. So first line of defense"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":227.79,"endTime":230.7,"body":"sits within the operational"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":227.79,"endTime":230.7,"body":"ecosystem, whether it's"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":231.0,"endTime":234.96,"body":"technology or any, any, any of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":231.0,"endTime":234.96,"body":"the operational spaces. Second"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":234.96,"endTime":238.29,"body":"line of defense sits under the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":234.96,"endTime":238.29,"body":"Risk and Compliance space. Third"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":238.29,"endTime":243.09,"body":"line of defense is the internal"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":238.29,"endTime":243.09,"body":"audit, which is the independent"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":243.12,"endTime":249.33,"body":"audit function. So that's how we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":243.12,"endTime":249.33,"body":"have structured. We also have a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":249.33,"endTime":252.78,"body":"board reporting, or a board"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":249.33,"endTime":252.78,"body":"oversight, so to speak, through"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":252.78,"endTime":257.97,"body":"a board subcommittee for risk"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":252.78,"endTime":257.97,"body":"and compliance. So there is a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":257.97,"endTime":261.99,"body":"board reporting which happens"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":257.97,"endTime":261.99,"body":"periodically, and an update goes"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":261.99,"endTime":266.73,"body":"to the board, through the boards"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":261.99,"endTime":266.73,"body":"of community on on cyber privacy"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":266.73,"endTime":268.5,"body":"and all the risk and compliance"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":266.73,"endTime":268.5,"body":"matters."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":270.38,"endTime":272.72,"body":"Understand,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":270.38,"endTime":272.72,"body":"understand, and when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":272.72,"endTime":276.2,"body":"say, for example, selecting"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":272.72,"endTime":276.2,"body":"cyber security solutions for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":276.2,"endTime":280.6,"body":"axiata in your perspectives as"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":276.2,"endTime":280.6,"body":"well, for organizations in"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":280.6,"endTime":284.98,"body":"general, are there certain"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":280.6,"endTime":284.98,"body":"preferences when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":285.22,"endTime":288.46,"body":"best of breed approach, single"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":285.22,"endTime":288.46,"body":"platform approach, hybrid"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":288.46,"endTime":292.78,"body":"approach, when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":288.46,"endTime":292.78,"body":"selecting certain cyber security"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":292.78,"endTime":293.5,"body":"solutions?"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":295.0,"endTime":298.0,"body":"Okay,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":295.0,"endTime":298.0,"body":"there is no silver bullet answer"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":298.0,"endTime":303.06,"body":"to this. I'll start with that."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":298.0,"endTime":303.06,"body":"So the way we have adopted it as"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":303.06,"endTime":308.52,"body":"we have kept it fairly hybrid."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":303.06,"endTime":308.52,"body":"It's not a single platform"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":308.58,"endTime":314.46,"body":"solving every every problem"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":308.58,"endTime":314.46,"body":"within the ecosystem. The way we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":314.46,"endTime":319.8,"body":"do it is we look at the risk"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":314.46,"endTime":319.8,"body":"first, we look at where the risk"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":319.8,"endTime":323.78,"body":"reside, whether it is in the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":319.8,"endTime":323.78,"body":"application space, whether it is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":323.78,"endTime":327.08,"body":"in the infrastructure space,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":323.78,"endTime":327.08,"body":"whether it is in the network"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":327.08,"endTime":331.1,"body":"space, depending on and it's not"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":327.08,"endTime":331.1,"body":"just about technology, it also,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":331.46,"endTime":335.18,"body":"it also spills over into the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":331.46,"endTime":335.18,"body":"process ecosystem. 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So look at the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":398.54,"endTime":407.62,"body":"risk. Look at which technologies"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":398.54,"endTime":407.62,"body":"or which solutions best fit that"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":408.4,"endTime":413.2,"body":"risk remediation, and then then"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":408.4,"endTime":413.2,"body":"look at whether it can be done"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":413.2,"endTime":417.64,"body":"using any of the existing"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":413.2,"endTime":417.64,"body":"solutions that we have. If it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":417.64,"endTime":420.66,"body":"cannot be done, then look at an"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":417.64,"endTime":420.66,"body":"external solution, do an"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":420.66,"endTime":423.9,"body":"evaluation based on the criteria"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":420.66,"endTime":423.9,"body":"that I've already spoken about,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":424.44,"endTime":428.58,"body":"and then we landed, then we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":424.44,"endTime":428.58,"body":"landed the solution. And all of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":428.58,"endTime":435.36,"body":"this is kind of driven or"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":428.58,"endTime":435.36,"body":"governed by our enterprise"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":435.36,"endTime":439.26,"body":"security architecture stack,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":435.36,"endTime":439.26,"body":"stack. So we have an enterprise"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":439.26,"endTime":444.08,"body":"security architecture stack"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":439.26,"endTime":444.08,"body":"which, which kind of governs the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":444.08,"endTime":448.46,"body":"way we select technology"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":444.08,"endTime":448.46,"body":"solutions, primarily technology"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":448.46,"endTime":452.84,"body":"solutions, and how do we, how"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":448.46,"endTime":452.84,"body":"does it fit into the larger"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":452.84,"endTime":453.62,"body":"scheme of things?"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":455.12,"endTime":459.11,"body":"Understand, I"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":455.12,"endTime":459.11,"body":"think it's very interesting that"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":459.11,"endTime":462.71,"body":"you mentioned that you know in"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":459.11,"endTime":462.71,"body":"the earlier survey we conducted"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":462.71,"endTime":466.22,"body":"last year, together with cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":462.71,"endTime":466.22,"body":"security Malaysia, we were"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":466.22,"endTime":471.53,"body":"asking enterprises around the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":466.22,"endTime":471.53,"body":"percentage of IT spend should be"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":471.53,"endTime":475.28,"body":"allocated to cyber security, and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":471.53,"endTime":475.28,"body":"how much is actually being"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":475.31,"endTime":479.54,"body":"allocated at present Malaysia,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":475.31,"endTime":479.54,"body":"specifically, we look at about"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":479.57,"endTime":484.58,"body":"51% of enterprises who believe"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":479.57,"endTime":484.58,"body":"that over 20% of IT budget"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":484.58,"endTime":487.82,"body":"should be allocated to cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":484.58,"endTime":487.82,"body":"security, but at present, you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":487.82,"endTime":493.22,"body":"know only less than 5% is being"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":487.82,"endTime":493.22,"body":"allocated to cyber security."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":493.94,"endTime":497.54,"body":"PIKOM recently released their"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":493.94,"endTime":497.54,"body":"report as well sharing similar"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":497.54,"endTime":501.71,"body":"sentiments. So I'm wondering for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":497.54,"endTime":501.71,"body":"yourself, is there like a so"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":501.71,"endTime":505.25,"body":"called best practice or certain"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":501.71,"endTime":505.25,"body":"kind of framework that you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":505.25,"endTime":508.34,"body":"adhere to when you kind of look"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":505.25,"endTime":508.34,"body":"into cyber security budget, I"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":508.34,"endTime":510.29,"body":"think because earlier you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":508.34,"endTime":510.29,"body":"mentioned as well, this is"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":510.29,"endTime":513.92,"body":"something that sits under the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":510.29,"endTime":513.92,"body":"risk and compliance function for"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":513.799,"endTime":516.079,"body":"See,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":513.799,"endTime":516.079,"body":"I will not get into the specific"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":513.92,"endTime":514.55,"body":"axiata."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":516.079,"endTime":518.149,"body":"numbers because they are,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":516.079,"endTime":518.149,"body":"they're sensitive and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":518.149,"endTime":522.469,"body":"confidential in nature, but I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":518.149,"endTime":522.469,"body":"can, I can probably touch upon"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":522.529,"endTime":526.939,"body":"the the genesis of, how do we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":522.529,"endTime":526.939,"body":"get in, get to the budget part"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":526.939,"endTime":531.739,"body":"of it. So we don't exactly say,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":526.939,"endTime":531.739,"body":"Yeah, X percentage of the budget"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":531.739,"endTime":536.329,"body":"should go into cyber budgeting."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":531.739,"endTime":536.329,"body":"What? What instead we do is we,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":536.359,"endTime":541.159,"body":"we take a risk based approach,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":536.359,"endTime":541.159,"body":"and we evaluate all our risks,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":541.159,"endTime":546.349,"body":"we then look at their impacts to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":541.159,"endTime":546.349,"body":"the business, and based on that,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":546.349,"endTime":551.869,"body":"we we plan our budgets for the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":546.349,"endTime":551.869,"body":"future. So it is not necessary"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":551.869,"endTime":557.719,"body":"that it has to be 10, 20, 30% it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":551.869,"endTime":557.719,"body":"could. It could fall within any"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":557.719,"endTime":561.379,"body":"of that spectrum. But what's"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":557.719,"endTime":561.379,"body":"more important is, is Is it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":561.409,"endTime":565.549,"body":"enough to remediate the risk"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":561.409,"endTime":565.549,"body":"that the business have? Because"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":565.549,"endTime":571.069,"body":"we are a diverse group, and we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":565.549,"endTime":571.069,"body":"have got lines of businesses"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":571.279,"endTime":575.239,"body":"which fall across the spectrum"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":571.279,"endTime":575.239,"body":"of regulation. So some of them"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":575.239,"endTime":578.839,"body":"are heavily regulated. Some of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":575.239,"endTime":578.839,"body":"them are probably moderately"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":578.839,"endTime":583.429,"body":"regulated. Some of them are"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":578.839,"endTime":583.429,"body":"very, very loosely regulated,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":583.429,"endTime":588.199,"body":"for the want of a better phrase."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":583.429,"endTime":588.199,"body":"So we can't, we can't budget"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":588.199,"endTime":593.749,"body":"based on the regulatory levels"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":588.199,"endTime":593.749,"body":"alone of the businesses. Yes,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":593.749,"endTime":599.209,"body":"they that definitely comes into"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":593.749,"endTime":599.209,"body":"consideration, but that's why we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":599.209,"endTime":603.949,"body":"drive it more. Or in terms of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":599.209,"endTime":603.949,"body":"the risk that all these"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":603.949,"endTime":608.149,"body":"businesses and their technology"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":603.949,"endTime":608.149,"body":"deployments post to the larger"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":608.149,"endTime":612.469,"body":"group, and how do we remediate"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":608.149,"endTime":612.469,"body":"the risk on a priority basis,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":612.469,"endTime":614.509,"body":"which is driven by the risk"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":612.469,"endTime":614.509,"body":"based approach"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":616.32,"endTime":619.98,"body":"understand and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":616.32,"endTime":619.98,"body":"when it comes to cyber security"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":619.98,"endTime":623.72,"body":"as a whole. What are some of the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":619.98,"endTime":623.72,"body":"challenges that you are"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":623.72,"endTime":626.78,"body":"experiencing currently, for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":623.72,"endTime":626.78,"body":"yourself at axiata and and also"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":626.78,"endTime":629.96,"body":"generally across the Malaysia"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":626.78,"endTime":629.96,"body":"landscape as a whole? Are there"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":630.02,"endTime":633.68,"body":"specific challenges that you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":630.02,"endTime":633.68,"body":"think are unique to Malaysia?"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":634.94,"endTime":637.7,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":634.94,"endTime":637.7,"body":"will, I will kind of split my"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":637.7,"endTime":641.08,"body":"answer to this question, because"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":637.7,"endTime":641.08,"body":"it's a it's a very relevant"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":641.08,"endTime":643.54,"body":"question. It's an interesting"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":641.08,"endTime":643.54,"body":"question, but it's also a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":643.54,"endTime":646.9,"body":"question which can be"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":643.54,"endTime":646.9,"body":"deliberated probably for 24"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":647.08,"endTime":651.52,"body":"hours or 48 hours in one go,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":647.08,"endTime":651.52,"body":"right? So, because the the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":651.52,"endTime":655.42,"body":"magnitude of the answer is that"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":651.52,"endTime":655.42,"body":"big. So I'll try and split this"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":655.42,"endTime":661.86,"body":"into few. Now, if you look at if"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":655.42,"endTime":661.86,"body":"you look at the cyber security"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":661.86,"endTime":666.84,"body":"world today, and it's primarily"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":661.86,"endTime":666.84,"body":"driven by the way businesses are"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":666.84,"endTime":671.1,"body":"evolving and the level of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":666.84,"endTime":671.1,"body":"digitalization that businesses"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":671.22,"endTime":676.74,"body":"are adopting, especially in the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":671.22,"endTime":676.74,"body":"past four to five years. Now the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":678.36,"endTime":684.26,"body":"because of the because of the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":678.36,"endTime":684.26,"body":"faster and expansive adoption of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":684.38,"endTime":690.5,"body":"technology for digitalization,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":684.38,"endTime":690.5,"body":"emerging technologies post a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":690.5,"endTime":696.32,"body":"huge cyber security risk and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":690.5,"endTime":696.32,"body":"threat to enterprises. Now,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":696.32,"endTime":699.98,"body":"whether it is, I mean, I don't,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":696.32,"endTime":699.98,"body":"I don't want to just say that it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":699.98,"endTime":706.54,"body":"is AI or ml or analytics. It is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":699.98,"endTime":706.54,"body":"a combination of all sorts of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":706.54,"endTime":710.2,"body":"digital technologies which are"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":706.54,"endTime":710.2,"body":"in the emerging technology"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":710.2,"endTime":715.0,"body":"space. Ai being the latest in"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":710.2,"endTime":715.0,"body":"that list. Give it another 18 to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":715.0,"endTime":718.96,"body":"24 months. We will talk about"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":715.0,"endTime":718.96,"body":"quantum in the same spectrum,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":719.02,"endTime":724.14,"body":"right? So I'll broadly bucket it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":719.02,"endTime":724.14,"body":"as emerging technologies. The"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":724.14,"endTime":728.64,"body":"second part of this answer is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":724.14,"endTime":728.64,"body":"more around the legacy"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":728.64,"endTime":732.84,"body":"technologies, while everybody is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":728.64,"endTime":732.84,"body":"focused towards the emerging"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":732.84,"endTime":738.54,"body":"technologies and securing them"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":732.84,"endTime":738.54,"body":"and all of that, what needs"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":738.6,"endTime":741.74,"body":"attention is also the older"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":738.6,"endTime":741.74,"body":"technologies, which are still"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":741.74,"endTime":745.52,"body":"within an ecosystem, which are"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":741.74,"endTime":745.52,"body":"which are traditionally called"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":745.52,"endTime":749.48,"body":"the legacy technologies. Now how"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":745.52,"endTime":749.48,"body":"do you, how do you still"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":749.48,"endTime":752.3,"body":"continue to secure, because some"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":749.48,"endTime":752.3,"body":"of them are, some of them are"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":752.3,"endTime":756.56,"body":"either out of support, or some"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":752.3,"endTime":756.56,"body":"of them don't have any more"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":756.56,"endTime":760.22,"body":"development happening and stuff"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":756.56,"endTime":760.22,"body":"like that. So how do you because"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":760.22,"endTime":762.58,"body":"they still needed for the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":760.22,"endTime":762.58,"body":"business. So how do you continue"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":762.58,"endTime":767.86,"body":"securing them while you secure"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":762.58,"endTime":767.86,"body":"the future technologies is a key"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":767.86,"endTime":773.02,"body":"consideration for every cyber"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":767.86,"endTime":773.02,"body":"security leader globally. 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Yes, I know it's, it's,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":788.64,"endTime":794.04,"body":"it's an over discussed and over"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":788.64,"endTime":794.04,"body":"hyped kind of a topic, but in"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":794.04,"endTime":798.24,"body":"reality, it is still a major"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":794.04,"endTime":798.24,"body":"issue, because there is a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":798.24,"endTime":802.58,"body":"shortage of talented and skilled"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":798.24,"endTime":802.58,"body":"people in this domain, so which"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":802.76,"endTime":809.72,"body":"technically means the ability of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":802.76,"endTime":809.72,"body":"enterprises to secure themselves"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":809.78,"endTime":814.4,"body":"with the right skill sets and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":809.78,"endTime":814.4,"body":"talent is fairly limited. 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Promoting"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1214.28,"endTime":1218.9,"body":"a security aware culture within"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1214.28,"endTime":1218.9,"body":"the organization is another key"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1218.9,"endTime":1224.44,"body":"priority for us, to make sure"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1218.9,"endTime":1224.44,"body":"that the broader employees act"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1224.44,"endTime":1228.52,"body":"as the first line of defense for"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1224.44,"endTime":1228.52,"body":"the organization itself. Right?"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1229.24,"endTime":1233.74,"body":"The third priority definitely is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1229.24,"endTime":1233.74,"body":"to have adequate bench strength"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1233.8,"endTime":1240.16,"body":"when it comes to cyber team"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1233.8,"endTime":1240.16,"body":"itself, so which means training"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1240.16,"endTime":1247.86,"body":"Skilling and even even probably"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1240.16,"endTime":1247.86,"body":"having a broader engagement with"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1247.92,"endTime":1252.48,"body":"within the within the markets"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1247.92,"endTime":1252.48,"body":"that we operate in, whether it"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1252.48,"endTime":1258.12,"body":"is with unis, whether it is with"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1252.48,"endTime":1258.12,"body":"educational institutions and"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1258.12,"endTime":1263.18,"body":"communities and So on and so"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1258.12,"endTime":1263.18,"body":"forth, making sure that we have"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1263.6,"endTime":1269.36,"body":"adequate engagement with the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1263.6,"endTime":1269.36,"body":"broader ecosystem, so that we we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1269.36,"endTime":1276.26,"body":"can, we can build a talent pool"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1269.36,"endTime":1276.26,"body":"or a people pool within that"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1276.26,"endTime":1281.86,"body":"within that ecosystem, which we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1276.26,"endTime":1281.86,"body":"can also depend from right so"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1281.86,"endTime":1284.98,"body":"that that kind of adds to the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1281.86,"endTime":1284.98,"body":"bench strength that I was"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1284.98,"endTime":1288.04,"body":"talking about. And bench"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1284.98,"endTime":1288.04,"body":"strength is not just around"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1288.04,"endTime":1292.42,"body":"cyber. Bench strength is cyber"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1288.04,"endTime":1292.42,"body":"on let's say emerging"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1292.42,"endTime":1296.68,"body":"technologies, or cyber in OT,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1292.42,"endTime":1296.68,"body":"cyber in IoT. Cyber is not"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1296.68,"endTime":1301.2,"body":"standalone. Cyber is linked to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1296.68,"endTime":1301.2,"body":"all forms of technologies. 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So that's broadly what we"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1319.08,"endTime":1324.08,"body":"are focusing on."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1324.8,"endTime":1328.1,"body":"I understand. And"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1324.8,"endTime":1328.1,"body":"my final question for you is,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1328.22,"endTime":1332.84,"body":"looking ahead, you can answer in"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1328.22,"endTime":1332.84,"body":"the context of axiata, or in"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1332.84,"endTime":1336.74,"body":"your own opinion, what are some"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1332.84,"endTime":1336.74,"body":"of the areas within cyber"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1336.74,"endTime":1339.98,"body":"security that you are most"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1336.74,"endTime":1339.98,"body":"excited about? Are there certain"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1340.04,"endTime":1342.52,"body":"areas that keep you up awake at"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1340.04,"endTime":1342.52,"body":"night."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1344.74,"endTime":1346.12,"body":"There"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1344.74,"endTime":1346.12,"body":"are quite a lot of things which"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1346.12,"endTime":1351.82,"body":"keep you up at night. See one of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1346.12,"endTime":1351.82,"body":"the biggest things that that's"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1352.0,"endTime":1354.88,"body":"that I have seen, and this is me"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1352.0,"endTime":1354.88,"body":"speaking, probably at an"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1354.88,"endTime":1360.54,"body":"individual level, as a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1354.88,"endTime":1360.54,"body":"practitioner, so to speak, the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1363.06,"endTime":1370.8,"body":"the ability of threat actors to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1363.06,"endTime":1370.8,"body":"launch an attack has become"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1370.86,"endTime":1378.24,"body":"fairly, fairly significant. I'll"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1370.86,"endTime":1378.24,"body":"explain. I'll have to just take"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1378.3,"endTime":1384.26,"body":"quick two minutes to explain"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1378.3,"endTime":1384.26,"body":"this. See earlier, availability"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1384.26,"endTime":1387.14,"body":"of tools for threat actors was"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1384.26,"endTime":1387.14,"body":"fairly limited, and when I say"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1387.14,"endTime":1389.6,"body":"earlier, I'm probably talking"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1387.14,"endTime":1389.6,"body":"about seven to 10 years back"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1389.6,"endTime":1395.06,"body":"today, the availability of tools"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1389.6,"endTime":1395.06,"body":"and exposure towards tools is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1395.06,"endTime":1400.36,"body":"fairly significant. Two is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1395.06,"endTime":1400.36,"body":"threat actors are kind of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1400.36,"endTime":1404.32,"body":"collaborating with each other."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1400.36,"endTime":1404.32,"body":"So if you look at, if you look"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1404.32,"endTime":1409.9,"body":"at any anatomy of any attack,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1404.32,"endTime":1409.9,"body":"you will, you will actually see"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1409.9,"endTime":1413.5,"body":"the fingerprint of two, three"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1409.9,"endTime":1413.5,"body":"different threat actors or"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1413.5,"endTime":1417.34,"body":"threat actor groups within a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1413.5,"endTime":1417.34,"body":"single if it's a if it's a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1417.34,"endTime":1420.84,"body":"fairly sophisticated attack, you"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1417.34,"endTime":1420.84,"body":"will probably see three, four"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1421.68,"endTime":1424.44,"body":"threat actors, or threat actor"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1421.68,"endTime":1424.44,"body":"groups within, within the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1424.44,"endTime":1427.92,"body":"anatomy of that entire attack"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1424.44,"endTime":1427.92,"body":"itself. 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Today,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1436.62,"endTime":1440.1,"body":"you need to understand that"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1436.62,"endTime":1440.1,"body":"entire threat actor ecosystem,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1440.58,"endTime":1445.58,"body":"which means staying, staying"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1440.58,"endTime":1445.58,"body":"either current or one step ahead"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1445.58,"endTime":1448.64,"body":"of what's happening within the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1445.58,"endTime":1448.64,"body":"within the thread ecosystem. 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Not just about"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1499.44,"endTime":1502.16,"body":"shortage of skill and talent,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1502.16,"endTime":1507.74,"body":"there is also an element of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1502.16,"endTime":1507.74,"body":"mental health and burnout within"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1507.74,"endTime":1514.58,"body":"the cyber community. I see this"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1507.74,"endTime":1514.58,"body":"more and more purely because the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1514.58,"endTime":1520.16,"body":"volume of data and the volume of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1514.58,"endTime":1520.16,"body":"analysis that gets thrown at"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1521.36,"endTime":1527.38,"body":"cyber professionals today is"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1521.36,"endTime":1527.38,"body":"quite huge, so And obviously,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1527.86,"endTime":1530.62,"body":"because of the because of the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1527.86,"endTime":1530.62,"body":"shortage of resources,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1530.86,"endTime":1535.78,"body":"multitasking the same, same"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1530.86,"endTime":1535.78,"body":"individual, doing two, three"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1535.78,"endTime":1539.62,"body":"different kind of roles within"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1535.78,"endTime":1539.62,"body":"cyber is fairly common. So that"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1539.62,"endTime":1544.56,"body":"leads to burn out, that leads to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1539.62,"endTime":1544.56,"body":"stress, that leads to a lot of"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1544.62,"endTime":1547.92,"body":"mental health issues, which is,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1544.62,"endTime":1547.92,"body":"which is actually now a"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1547.92,"endTime":1550.98,"body":"mainstream conversation within,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1547.92,"endTime":1550.98,"body":"within this community itself."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1551.58,"endTime":1554.34,"body":"That's, that's something I'm I'm"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1551.58,"endTime":1554.34,"body":"conscious of, that's something"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1554.34,"endTime":1557.58,"body":"I'm concerned about. I'm"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1554.34,"endTime":1557.58,"body":"thinking about it in terms of,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1557.58,"endTime":1561.86,"body":"how do we, how do we make sure"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1557.58,"endTime":1561.86,"body":"that we don't stretch our"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1561.86,"endTime":1567.68,"body":"people. We give them adequate"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1561.86,"endTime":1567.68,"body":"time, energy and space to to"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1567.68,"endTime":1571.76,"body":"recover from whatever they do"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1567.68,"endTime":1571.76,"body":"and come back motivated, excited"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1571.76,"endTime":1575.42,"body":"and refreshed, to again, again,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1571.76,"endTime":1575.42,"body":"face another challenging day"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1575.42,"endTime":1579.74,"body":"ahead. Whether is automation the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1575.42,"endTime":1579.74,"body":"answer, not entirely, or, I"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1579.74,"endTime":1582.46,"body":"mean, people keep talking about,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1579.74,"endTime":1582.46,"body":"yeah, automation is the answer,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1582.46,"endTime":1585.94,"body":"not entirely. Automation can"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1582.46,"endTime":1585.94,"body":"help up to a certain level."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1586.42,"endTime":1589.12,"body":"There are, there are other"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1586.42,"endTime":1589.12,"body":"contributing factors as well,"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1589.18,"endTime":1591.88,"body":"and that, like I said, that's"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1589.18,"endTime":1591.88,"body":"probably topic for another"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1591.88,"endTime":1595.66,"body":"entire conversation on its own."},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1591.88,"endTime":1595.66,"body":"But yeah, these are some of the"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1595.66,"endTime":1599.44,"body":"things that that kind of keeps"},{"speaker":"Suresh Sankaran Srinivasan - Axiata Group","startTime":1595.66,"endTime":1599.44,"body":"me awake and keeps me excited."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1600.7,"endTime":1602.52,"body":"Understand. Thank"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1600.7,"endTime":1602.52,"body":"you very much for sharing."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1602.52,"endTime":1605.46,"body":"Suresh, I think you sit in a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1602.52,"endTime":1605.46,"body":"very exciting role. There's a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1605.46,"endTime":1610.08,"body":"lot of developments like you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1605.46,"endTime":1610.08,"body":"mentioned in the AI quantum IOT"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1610.08,"endTime":1613.56,"body":"space that certainly has a lot"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1610.08,"endTime":1613.56,"body":"of cyber security repercussions"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1613.56,"endTime":1616.8,"body":"that comes along with it. Also"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1613.56,"endTime":1616.8,"body":"definitely looking forward to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1616.8,"endTime":1620.78,"body":"the many positive and great"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1616.8,"endTime":1620.78,"body":"initiatives that axiata has, and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1620.78,"endTime":1624.14,"body":"we definitely do look forward to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1620.78,"endTime":1624.14,"body":"future conversations with you."},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1624.26,"endTime":1627.68,"body":"Thank you for sharing your"},{"speaker":"Vanessa Kwan","startTime":1624.26,"endTime":1627.68,"body":"insights with us. Thank you."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":1630.87,"endTime":1633.48,"body":"We hope you've"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":1630.87,"endTime":1633.48,"body":"enjoyed the episode. 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