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So I think"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2097.17,"endTime":2101.97,"body":"number one is really around"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2097.17,"endTime":2101.97,"body":"leveraging AI. Yeah, IoT is"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2101.97,"endTime":2106.35,"body":"really interesting at a personal"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2101.97,"endTime":2106.35,"body":"level to me, right on how for"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2106.35,"endTime":2109.62,"body":"me, because I'm always on the"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2106.35,"endTime":2109.62,"body":"go. Sometimes I forget to lock"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2109.62,"endTime":2113.55,"body":"the door. You know, sometimes my"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2109.62,"endTime":2113.55,"body":"car lights are on, and I usually"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2113.58,"endTime":2117.42,"body":"I really leverage my softwares"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2113.58,"endTime":2117.42,"body":"to make sure I do this remotely,"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2117.72,"endTime":2121.71,"body":"right? 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I think because of the"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2159.87,"endTime":2163.77,"body":"billions of alerts, for example,"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2163.77,"endTime":2169.11,"body":"that we see to cyber monitoring"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2163.77,"endTime":2169.11,"body":"or defense activities, data"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2169.11,"endTime":2173.07,"body":"analytics, scales are also"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2169.11,"endTime":2173.07,"body":"applicable in cyber security,"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2173.13,"endTime":2177.12,"body":"right? And it is a very"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2173.13,"endTime":2177.12,"body":"lucrative space to be in if"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2177.12,"endTime":2181.98,"body":"you're interested, right? 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So I think"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2194.58,"endTime":2200.19,"body":"See, that's the third one about"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2200.19,"endTime":2205.68,"body":"three things, right, leveraging"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2200.19,"endTime":2205.68,"body":"AI and really looking at how IoT"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2205.71,"endTime":2208.65,"body":"can actually fit for your own"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2205.71,"endTime":2208.65,"body":"use, and making sure it's"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2208.65,"endTime":2216.36,"body":"secure. And also the journeys"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2208.65,"endTime":2216.36,"body":"for Yeah, the opportunities"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2216.36,"endTime":2221.25,"body":"around talent, the works would"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2216.36,"endTime":2221.25,"body":"work, opportunities that we"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2221.25,"endTime":2224.73,"body":"have. And I think I just need to"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2221.25,"endTime":2224.73,"body":"mention this one more thing."},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2224.76,"endTime":2231.09,"body":"It's also for cyber security"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2224.76,"endTime":2231.09,"body":"practitioners to see how"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2231.12,"endTime":2235.53,"body":"compliance requirements actually"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2231.12,"endTime":2235.53,"body":"would benefit them, right, and"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2235.53,"endTime":2239.16,"body":"how they can leverage on this"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2235.53,"endTime":2239.16,"body":"compliance requirements without"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2239.73,"endTime":2244.65,"body":"so much of it being a tick in"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2239.73,"endTime":2244.65,"body":"the box exercise, but how you"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2244.65,"endTime":2248.52,"body":"drive certain automation checks"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2244.65,"endTime":2248.52,"body":"around this compliance needs"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2248.52,"endTime":2253.74,"body":"right and then get the necessary"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2248.52,"endTime":2253.74,"body":"funding and investments needed."},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2253.74,"endTime":2257.7,"body":"So I think if I can share some"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2253.74,"endTime":2257.7,"body":"highlights, those would be, I"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2257.73,"endTime":2263.37,"body":"guess, my topics around both"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2257.73,"endTime":2263.37,"body":"challenges and on the flip side,"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2263.4,"endTime":2266.04,"body":"opportunities that can be"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2263.4,"endTime":2266.04,"body":"explored."},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2266.73,"endTime":2270.18,"body":"Thank you very much."},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2266.73,"endTime":2270.18,"body":"Puan Aishah, your time has"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2270.42,"endTime":2275.04,"body":"really enlightened us about how"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2270.42,"endTime":2275.04,"body":"PNB is driving cyber security"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2275.04,"endTime":2278.61,"body":"within your organization, and"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2275.04,"endTime":2278.61,"body":"what are some of the key areas"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2278.61,"endTime":2283.14,"body":"of opportunities that you see"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2278.61,"endTime":2283.14,"body":"for Malaysians in the cyber"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2283.14,"endTime":2286.71,"body":"security sector. Thank you very"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2283.14,"endTime":2286.71,"body":"much for your time today. Thank"},{"speaker":"YY - AIBP","startTime":2286.71,"endTime":2287.49,"body":"you. Yy,"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2287.55,"endTime":2289.47,"body":"I appreciate the"},{"speaker":"Aishah - PNB","startTime":2287.55,"endTime":2289.47,"body":"conversation. Thank you."},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2291.63,"endTime":2294.36,"body":"We hope you've"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2291.63,"endTime":2294.36,"body":"enjoyed the episode. For more"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2294.36,"endTime":2297.54,"body":"information about business"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2294.36,"endTime":2297.54,"body":"growth in the ASEAN region,"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2298.02,"endTime":2303.03,"body":"please visit our website at"},{"speaker":"AIBP Intro","startTime":2298.02,"endTime":2303.03,"body":"www.aibp.sg."}]}