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On this episode of A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To My Life® Katische Haberfield joins host, Laura Muirhead, sharing her incredible journey from a Management Consultant working in eCommerce to talking to the dead and helping them cross them over for a living. Listen in to her own incredible story of an unexpected spirit visitor!
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Hello and welcome to this episode of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to My Life. I am your host, Laura Muirhan, and I am so thrilled to have as my guest today Katiche Haberfield. Katech and I know each other a bit from various Facebook groups and online things. And also we are both in the Women Lighting the Way Summit and co-authors of Entangled No More. So welcome Katech and come and introduce yourself. Tell us where you live and what you do.
SPEAKER_02Thank you for having me, Laura. I've enjoyed listening to some of the other podcast episodes, by the way. So they've been really fascinating. And uh it's good to get to know some of the other authors and members of the summit through your podcast uh interviews. So thank you for hosting other people on your podcast as well. So my name is Katish. I live in Brisbane, in the state of Queensland, in Australia, and I like to think I'm in the best place in Australia. We have a sunny, warm tropical climate here. So uh we're the most laid-back state in Australia, and you can probably hear through my accent, I've got quite a strong Aussie Oka accent, which always amuses me when I listen back because I don't feel like the typical Aussie bogans. I'm always amused when I hear my voice and I think, boy, that's masculine, boy, that's uh boy, that's really Aussie Occka, but uh that's who I am in this lifetime. Um I am a number of things, a spiritual regression therapist. And so that covers past life regression, future life progression, life between life's regression. Um, and I also am a spirit releasement therapist, which we might get into a little bit later, and a medium and now an author. So those are the many hats that all they're all interrelated, it's all working with the eternal mindstream and understanding the journey of the soul over time.
SPEAKER_01It's fascinating what you do, and I have recently had one session with you, so um I'm I'm still fascinated by that um and all of the things that you do, and obviously, yeah, many hats, but working with spirit and um and fascinating. It's all just fascinating to me. But um now you did you weren't you weren't always a past life regression spirit what do we call you, spirit guru, uh to encompass all of it that you didn't you didn't always do that. What did you do before?
SPEAKER_02Absolutely not, totally not. I'm Capricorn, right? So I'm Capricorn with Sagittarius with a Leo rising. So if you looked at my astrology, you would say, this girl, she's gonna be mainstream business, you know, and that's the way I grew up thinking, mainstream business. I went to university, I did a bachelor of business in marketing. Then straight after university, I went back to university and I did a master's degree, so master's in marketing. So I stayed at university until I was 21, got a master's degree. I then worked, uh went immediately to work for a management consultancy, the largest one in the world at the time. It was then called Anderson Consulting. Uh, we now know it as Accenture. And I worked in the e-commerce division. So to date myself, and it's okay because I know we're all in a similar age group, but this was before the internet was on your phone. Um, and so my very first jobs in the world were to help companies like banks uh develop their websites and get their brochures from physical brochures to being on web pages. Um, and then after that, I then uh leapfrogged over because this is where my interest was to the internet to figuring out and I work for a um seed-funded, a wireless startup in London trying to get the internet on your mobile phone. So that's nothing, nothing like what I do right now. So I, as I always said to my mum when I left um Australia in 1999, I said, see you, I'm not coming back. Uh I'm gonna be a CEO of a major company in London and New York, and I'll see you when I'm rich.
SPEAKER_01I love it. So you actually left and lived in London. And you did you live in New York as well?
SPEAKER_02No, I hated New York when I got there. I I went on a holiday there and I was like, oh, I don't know why people like this city. It's disgusting, it's dirty, it's got a bad vibe, I can't stand it. I think I might be the only person in the world who hates New York, but it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, it gives me the creeps. Um yeah, so no, I didn't live in New York and I only stayed in London for six months. So neither of them were part of my career that I thought it would be.
SPEAKER_01So straight back from London, straight back to Australia.
SPEAKER_02Uh I came back to Australia for a boy. We make unwise decisions. Uh and I transitioned into because the Nasdaq crash had happened, so there was nothing internet for a while. I transitioned into, I did the do what you love. And at that stage in my life, I loved drinking wine and eating cheese. And so I went and trained in the wine industry. And so I went back to uni again, and I learned I did uh postgraduate qualifications in gastronomy through Le Cordon Bleu, and uh learned all about the history of food and wine, and then I also studied at university through Adelaide University and I went and did oh Max is here. Uh Max is my spiritual cat. Hi Max. Um I I did um postgrade quals in wine business. So that meant I went and studied wine marketing and wine making and wine growing, growing, yeah, viticulture. So I worked in the wine industry, wine industry for quite a while, lived in rural Australia. Uh, and also then I worked after that, I worked in universities as a university lecturer.
SPEAKER_01Oh my goodness. So what brought you to doing what you do today?
SPEAKER_02Uh good question. So the seeds were planted a long time ago, and I'll I'll tell you that in a minute, but uh very quickly, life changes, like everybody else that you've spoken to on your podcast, uh cataclysmic life changes. So I got married at 30 and was divorced by divorced and had two kids by 35. And in the period of 12 months, uh I got divorced, my father died of cancer, and one of my closest friends became locked in. So uh that which means she could only blink. She has double brainstem stroke. So I call those as my catalysts. They happened, as my dad I've spoken to him in spirit now, he says they happened for you, not to you. They were very important in getting you to where you are today. Uh, and so by the age of 35, I found myself a single mum with two kids under the age of five, I think it was at that stage. And I guess grappling with how do you honour your need to be a stay-at-home mum because their dad lived away from us and was only home once a month. Uh, and how do I find myself? What do I want to do? How do I be a parent? How do I run a business? Uh, I didn't want to go back to work, and so I started the journey of trying different small businesses. And each different small business was an aspect of my personality, and I've been discovering that they are aspects of the soul over time. So I threw myself into photography, loved photography like you do, and I wanted to be a I just really wanted to be in the middle of the forest and be left alone to take photos because I saw their magic and the connection to spirit in the trees and in the clouds, and I was awed by the sunlight and the moss and all things uh because it brought me out of my worries into the beauty of the moment. And um I used to uh photograph every day and be in photo challenges just to help myself and others bring mindfulness to the beauty of the day because it was how I got through being a single mum by myself. And the other thing that I threw myself into, which is kind of very cliche now, is essential oils. Um, I think there's every woman out there got into essential oils, but I got into essential oils like ridiculously. I uh it was something that I had an innate knowledge in. I couldn't explain why I knew all about the properties of plants. I couldn't understand why I could uh look at something and know immediately what it was good for. I couldn't understand why I suddenly I never did maths or science at high school, but I couldn't understand why I immediately understood chemistry at this time in my life, why I understood the medicinal properties, uh, why I could. But I had um one of these things where so I was with doTERRA, um, I loved and understood the company, loved the people around me. Uh, I knew more than anybody I knew about essential oils. But could I make the business work? No. And it's nothing to do with doTERRA or the multi-market, you know, the network marketing scheme or anything like that. But uh what I've learned in hindsight, because I I threw everything at that for five years. I got very well known for my abilities, uh, and I helped people do lots of amazing things, like people with alopecia to completely grow back their hair from no hair to growing back just in the power of essential oils. Uh, I had uh huge success with people with uh anxiety and all sorts of things. But the point of that was not actually for it to be in my life permanently, it was a transition to heighten my olfactory awareness. The wine was also olfactory, sensory, olfactory, um, to bring in my what I call the spidey senses, which are Euclairs, so um, and to bring in, start to bring in rememberings. So I the original studies in gastronomy were very, very important in helping bring back a past life memory, uh, which was linked to uh overindulgence and uh in terms of the sensory, in terms of feasting, um in terms of wine. The wine was linked to a very specific past life revelation um from the time of Jesus. Um, the essential oils was linked to a past life revelation uh from a Native American lifetime where I was a medicine woman. And I only found out about that because I did a past life regression for a client and I saw myself. I'm like, oh hi, there we are, good, right. Uh and so each step in the journey, I've had a highly frustrating journey in having this Capricorn motivation, this gung-ho ness, but the feeling of a sense of being cursed uh without knowing what that was, found what that was recently, um, a feeling of being blocked, and a feeling of trying a million things and none of them working, and wondering out, wondering why. And what I've learned in hindsight is that each one of those were a remembering of skills from other lifetimes. And they were here to help get my clairs to the point where they need to be today to do what I do, but to not be the focus for this lifetime. It was like you're allowed to remember these things and you're allowed to dabble in them, but then we wanted to shift that back into the background so that we know that it's not what you're actually here for. We could let you do that, but we're not gonna let you do that in this lifetime. We've got free will, you can keep trying it for 50 years, but you're never gonna get success in that because that's not what you're here for. So, yeah, I hope that sort of explains it.
SPEAKER_01I think that I find it fascinating. Um, and I love that that is what you know you're pulling from all these different things to be a stepping stone, to be a support for what you do now. I also always think it's really interesting when I have uh guests on my podcast um that um I find things that we have in common. So I also use essential oils besides the the photography connection, and I also use the TERA and so um and I'm also you know don't use it as far as the you know to its full extent. I use essential oils, and so I find it fascinating the connections that I end up having with people, but I love that uh this is that you've worn so many hats, but you realize that they are all a foundation for you to do what you do now. And you know, being multi-passionate myself, sometimes you do you feel like, oh my gosh, now now I'm doing this. What what the heck? Why am I doing this now? Why am I doing this now? And I do even in in my own life feel like all of those things help help me now or will help the future or have helped me in the past, I you know, in some of my past things that I've done in this lifetime, where I've looked back a few years and said, Oh, good thing I did that, and good thing I did that, and good thing I did that, because now I have the skills to do what I'm doing now. So I love that you said that. But anyway, let's so let's go on with your a funny thing happened on the way to my life journey, because it you definitely are weaving your way through through different things here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. So uh that led to sound healing, and you can see for those who are listening, you won't be able to see, but those who are watching can see crystal singing bowls in the background. And I picked up uh the crystal singing bowls in COVID and uh got qualified in sound healing. Again, something that I've never been musically inclined in this lifetime, very musically inclined in other lifetimes, have written music in other lifetimes that you can Google and find, can't won't tell you who it is, but um very musically inclined in other lifetimes. But the sound bowl, the crystal singing bowls brought in for me uh the ability to access the subconscious mind and take people on journeys, which were shamanic in style. Hello, Native American Lifetime, and um also as soon as I began to use the singing bowls, I um remember talking to Elena. I sent her a message when um she was unwell, and I said to her, I've got this feeling that I could take people into a past life through the singing bowl. I said, because I knew she did do past life regression, and she's like, Yeah, you can, I know you can. And I was like, all right, I'm just gonna go for it. And I did. And from that moment on, I was like, it was like this quantum leap into, oh, I know how to do this, and I'm really good at it, actually. And uh it began from there. But what what um what I wanted to talk about on the podcast today was uh an example of how I I really enjoyed listening to Sam Young's episode and how she talked about her travels to Egypt. And like like her, um, I'm fascinated with Egypt. I've never wanted to travel there like you. I've never wanted to travel there, but I wanted to share a travel story that links in with my journey. So sometimes my mind can go all over the place, it's a bit like Russell Crow in a beautiful mind, and it's like you could put pins everywhere and string and try and follow the logic. And it's very difficult for me to make things simple because I can see the connections and my brain works in a way where I am constantly trying to find and analyse and find proof for things that are spiritual. But anyway, back to the travel. So back in 1996, after I finished almost finished, halfway through my master's degree, I was turning 21. And for my 21st birthday, my parents, instead of throwing a huge party, they gave me uh a ticket to to go backpacking around Europe. And so I went backpacking around Europe with my friend who is the one that became locked in, and uh we went to London, as you do, or Lossies go to London at the very beginning of the trip. And I have this postcard. Uh, for some of you who cannot see this, it's dated Monday, the 18th of the 11th, 1996, and it's a postcard which is a picture of St. Paul's Cathedral, and I've marked in pen here, we climb to here. But the St. Paul's Cathedral is not important. If it was a postcard of Westminster Abbey, then I would say it was fundamentally important because I discovered on my podcast, I take you back in a past life regression to Westminster Abbey, where I lived as a monk. Um, and I talk about that in the Enchant Entangled No More book. But this one is about my visit to St. Paul's Cathedral and the Tower of London. And uh I've said to her, you know, blah blah blah, today we went to St. Paul's Cathedral and the Tower of London. It took all day just to do those things. And it's interesting that I've kept this postcard all that time. And the interesting thing about that is I went to the Tower of London, and I had prof at that time I was not spiritual at all, not at all. But I I walked into the Tower of London to do the touristy thing, and we went all around, and I had incredible deja vu, full body chills, and I was like, I've been here before. I'm even seasoning up now, talking about it. I've been here before. And I thought, interesting. And we went into the racking room, you know, the awful room, which is the room of torture in the tower. And I was like, No, this room. Okay. And then I promptly forgot about that. Promptly forgot about it, never thought about it again, other than uh I was like, you know, like a lot of girls, oh, maybe I'm Anne Boleyn, you know, maybe I had lost my head in the tower. And so, you know, I started reading all the Tudor books as as people do, all the sagas about the Tudor family, and I was like, maybe it was one of them, maybe I was one of them, maybe I was one of them. But um I never had any sensation, all of my past life reveals most. I don't I've only found one female so far. I've always been a male. My soul prefers to be a male. So um I knew, well, I wasn't a witch, and I wasn't one of Henry's wives. I didn't get my head chopped off in the tower. What is this? What's this feeling of deja vu? And uh so it didn't really affect me other than I just became obsessed with the tutors for for a while and found it fascinating and interesting. And then uh last year, I don't know if everyone remembers Clubhouse, the app that was just voice only. And I was like, okay, I'll go at the time I absolutely hated Facebook. I was like, I'll go on Facebook for a while and I'll go on a Clubhouse. And quite a lot of times through my adulthood, I have known that I have been, and it's a little bit like as I call somebody the too much person, I know that my energy has been too much for people. And I I I get a visceral reaction, like people like step away from me. I'm like, I'm a nice person, why would you step away from me? Like they just like I can get excited about things, and then I can feel that people feel that that's too intense. And I had noticed that my appearance had been changing drastically over the years, drastically. Um, and that my feelings of happiness changed dramatically according to how my hair was, what color it was, and the length that it was, and that you could see this in in who I who I was in photos over times. And I've always been happy happiest as a blonde. When I've had my brunette hair, I've been hiding or in a really retreative um part of my life, and I've always tried to hide the natural red. I was born as a redhead. I looked at myself, obviously, in the mirror and got shocked and went blonde immediately, quite blonde. And throughout the history of my life, I've been uh red, white, or blonde, depending upon the moment. And so I went to the clubhouse room and it was a spiritual room, someone was leading a meditation. And my intention, like I always set my intention, I was like, I'm in here to learn today. I'd really like to learn and connect. And the person who was the host of the clubhouse room said to me, well, didn't say to me, because it's you know, it's with the person who just stepped into the room, please know that this is my room and you are not welcome. Oh, and you I was like, oh, here's another one of those energy things. I think I better get this looked into. And I was like, I was really quite shaken because it was not my intention. I thought there's something on my energy that is not right that people are sensing. Um And at that time, I was like, maybe this is the reason why all of my businesses have been blocked and not successful, you know, why I feel so frustrated. And anyway, I happened to win a couple of sessions with a quantum healer. And they were private one-on-one sessions. And I was explaining some of the things that were happening to me. And so she has the ability to look into past lives, she sees visions immediately. And at that stage, I hadn't gone into any of my past lives. So I was like, okay, I'm up for it. I've been part of her monthly group and received healings. And I had had a couple of past lives revealed in front of people in the groups that made sense to some of the things. And I was like shocked to the point where you know everybody in that room was also from the same past life. I was like, okay, you can't dismiss this. So I trusted her. And uh we had this private session, and she's like, okay. I'm you you you've got you've got uh you're possessed, you have got a past life possession, and I'm like, what's that? She's like, well, there's a former version of you that is attached to you currently. You have a spirit attachment, and uh you've had this spirit since birth, and you have worked together harmoniously, you're like twins, like conjoined twins, but he has been affecting your appearance, and uh whenever he tries to come through, your you know, he will affect your haircut. And this is an undisgusting haircut I've had all the way through my lifetime. And uh I was like, yeah, okay, I I feel that. And anyway, cut a long story short, she tried to remove him, and it was a very forceful thing with using you know your hands on your jaw and this immense pressure to get rid of him. Let's say it didn't work, and let's say that uh she um didn't mean to, but her perception was clouded by who she thought she he was. She said that he was a sorcerer, he was uh an evil black magician, and so immediately you can imagine my ego just went and I was like, I'm a bad person? I'm an evil sorcerer? Like what? And I believed it, and it began to affect my business, and um she told me that you know he had taught me everything I knew, included the sound healing, and I shut down the sound healing side of my business, and I was really quite affected. And I was like, Oh, you know, I was up front with my clients and said they you haven't been harmed, but you know, uh I just want to let you know that this this happened anyway. I then had a guest on my podcast, and the guest, her name was Tina, and Tina is a ghost ghost uh helper. She helps ghosts cross over. And then we had a lovely uh had a lovely uh chat with her on the podcast, and I was like, I really like just a really good interview. And she explained all about it, and I said to her, you know, uh by this stage I was doing past life regressions, and I said to her, the reason why I contacted you to come on this podcast is because uh I was searching how to cross over ghosts, uh, because I was doing some past life regressions and these ghosts came into my house. They cat alerted me, and I was like, How to get rid of ghosts? Because I knew that there were ghosts in my house. And so I found you, Tina. So thank you for the prayer, and you showed me how to cross them over. And guess what? I can cross over ghosts with your prayer. And uh thought nothing more of it, but when I went to email her the file, because she was very insistent, she's a lovely lady, but she's military background, so she's very insistent. And she's like, I need a copy of the audio and the video. I'm like, nobody's ever asked me for a copy of the audio and the video, and I'm putting it on my podcast. I was like, Oh, okay, boundaries, but yeah, right here, whatever. I could not get the file to go. And she's getting more and more agitated with me, like, why aren't you sending me the file? I'm like, and I finally said to her, Tina, I am not doing anything wrong here. Here's a screenshot of all the times I've tried to send you these files. I am willing to cooperate, you can have everything, I don't care anymore. And she's like, Oh, oh, I'm so sorry, we have interference. And I said, Oh, I said, Okay, then I said, Well, I know what it is, my fellow is back, and she said, Okay, all right. And she was very, very generous with me, and she gave me a private one-on-one session to remove the attachment, and she's a very kind soul, and she got she crossed him over, but it was a it was a really difficult experience for me because uh it was done, it was done by force. And so what happens is that uh the the method that Tina uses it, uh she does it via audio, I can't even see her, and she has a whole set of procedures which worked for her to uh bring the spirit into like a net, it's like um trapping them. And because I had told her that I was told that it was a sorcerer, a black magician, uh she tried nicely, she said we're gonna try and get the story, and then she had in her mind that he was evil because that's what I told her, and so she ended up using spiritual force uh to uh exorcise him, so to speak. And it worked, but I felt violated at the end. I literally felt violated. From from that moment, um, I was like, there's got to be a better way to do this, and you that was just processing in the back of my mind. As soon as he left my body, I bought a house opposite a hospital, which is the equivalent of buying a house opposite the cemetery, let me tell you that. And suddenly, at sunrise to sunset, I had spirits coming in my house all day, every day. Luckily, my children were away for a few weeks with their dad traveling. Uh, but the cat and I were almost beside ourselves with the process of crossing over spirits, everyone from around here. And I was like, Tina, help me, help me. She's like, You've got to raise your vibration and learn how to do this on your own. And um, you know, I started doing all the things that she was telling me about, like changing the light bulbs to green, um, putting angels all around my house, having prayers, you name it. And uh eventually I ended up doing some of my own past life regression sessions with Cindy, Cindy Porter, who's another one of our colleagues. And in the uh session, I went to the Life Between Lives Afterwards, and I was told then you've upgraded, or we had an energetic body upgrade, and they're like, You're fine now, they'll never come into your house again. I was like, cool, and they stopped, they stopped coming. Um I had no spirit attachment anymore, and I was fine. I could suddenly cross over people. The link to the Tower of London is that then I started to get really visceral memories of the Tower of London. Okay, so I would see myself as this figure in uh a long coat and and boots, and I would see him going into the Tower of London and I would black out and scream uh because of the torture that was being conducted. And I was like, this is still not the right pieces of information. I haven't got the full life. Was I a baddie? Was I a goodie? You know, I've got this summit coming up where I'm supposed to tell my story. I want to talk about the good fun stuff, which is about how I help find people in graveyards now and spirits and cross them over how my friend Harry, the ghost, who's not not a ghost anymore, is a little boy, helps me fight and lost children. I want to get to that, but there's I need to know about this sorcerer. Like, really was I bad? Was he a bad person? Why was he attached to me? And what's the deal with the Tower of London? And uh literally, uh it's been really plaguing my mind to try and put the pieces together. My mind needs to understand the sequence, the linkages, the the why this happened to me. Um, and I suddenly began to sense and know when people hadn't crossed over themselves in past lives. I started doing sessions with Cindy where we would have to go back to a lifetime for this distinct purposes of crossing myself over. So when you have the when the soul is um created, each uh petal I like to think of as a flower. You have the flower, which is the center, which is the soul, and each petal is a different incarnation. Now the soul can send off a new incarnation at any time, it doesn't have to wait for the soul to come back, the last petal to come back and be reintegrated. It can send 10 off in simultaneously, whatever the soul needs. So it was a big learning curve for me to know that I could be here right now in the physical and still have a number of incarnations who hadn't crossed over. They were haunting locations, and so I would go back and find myself and cross myself over. Um, and I was still like, there's something going on with this dude. What's the story? What's happened? And so we went, we finally last week. This is really fresh, hot of nobody in the world knows, and I've been like really anxious to get this part of the story out. But last week we went back in time to the Tower of London to find out what happened. And uh I had I had known that this fellow in my heart was a good man, and I had seen uh previously that he had a shop, like uh I did never knew whether it was a botany shop, an alchemy shop, a magic potion shop, whatever it was, where he created potions and lotions and whatever it worked, alchemized things. And I knew that he lived around the time of the Black Death because I had a vision of uh having a line of people outside my door, all dying of the plague. And I knew that I was uh the king's um herbalist, botanist, alchemist, whatever it was. I knew that I worked only for the king, but that I helped people on the side. And I had this clear vision that one day, like the king was an ass. And I know, I don't know which king it is as well. Um if you go Google, you'll find figure out um which Edward it is, and it's the Black Death, and I knew that I had to report to him every day and help, and he and he has a child that actually ended up dying of a plague because you can't help when they've got the plague. And I stepped, I my the king was being a real pain in the ass, and I had this cue of people, and I know that my soul is compassionate, right? And um, I was so frustrated and agitated that day um that in a moment I knew that these people were in my way, they were all dying anyway. I wanted to put them out of their suffering, I I knew it was compassionate, and uh a book appeared in my shelf, and I knew that I was told never to touch or open this book, and in my uh moment of frustration and anger, I grabbed the book. No, I didn't even grab the book. It was like the words floated off the pages of the book and into my brain, and I set an incantation, and these people outside my shop, studio, workshop died. They all went straight up, and so I knew that I had just killed these all these people in order to get to the king in time, but I knew that I had eased them out of their suffering because they were going to die anyway. So I thought, oh, is that the bad part of part of me? Anyway, so we went into this past life aggression just on the weekend, and uh I entered the tower into it, entered into the scene via a crow. So I love crows, and I was a crow on the outside, and then the crow opened the window and I went in, and I found myself in the Tower of London. And um, what's really fascinating is that I found out that I was actually um an alchemist, a real life alchemist. So the botany alchemy was right, and that I was working for the king, and that after uh the king had uh some spies who were watching me all the time, and they saw that happen with me killing all these people. And the king uh ascertained that if I knew how to uh use magic or alchemy to end life, I should know how to extend life. Because at that time, um, and my mind always shows me analogy analogies of um Harry Potter, always when I'm in deep hypnosis, at that time, uh, you know, in Harry Potter, we all know about the philosopher's stone. We know Nicholas Flamel. He's not just a character from Harry Potter, he's real, he's real, he's a real, real character. And the king, and it is literally documented in history, was obsessed with two things alchemy of money to fund wars. So he wanted to alchemize lead into gold to fund pilgrimages and wars, and secondly, he was obsessed with this extending his life. He was afraid of death and he wanted to extend his life. So uh I was allowed to exist as an alchemist as long as I alchemized lead into gold. And then when this thing happened, uh he wanted me to create the equivalent of the Philosopher's Stone. He wanted access to this book, which I knew I never wanted to touch again. I hadn't even opened it, the words just came to my mind, and I refused. And uh I was locked in the Tower of London, and uh this is if you look up the Tower of London, they don't talk about it at this period, it was brand new in this period. Uh his predecessor brought it in, and mostly used in the Tudor region. Um, but so uh I was put on the racking machine, uh, and each time I would be racked until I would do some more work on the philosopher's stone kind of a thing. Um and he uh my mind took me back to actually um getting to a point where I'm like, I need to end my life. I've had enough. I was I was there until I was very old, and to a scene where um I tried to poison the king. I was like, I made two potions, one for me, one for him. I was like, I'm gonna get rid of him and I'm gonna kill myself. In the scuffle, he realized what I was gonna do, and he uh knocked over both potions, neither of us got to drink it. And he knew that I was trying to kill him, so he stabbed me. And so in this regression, I actually feel being stabbed, and then he slit my throat. So I was already dead when he stabbed me, but then he slipped my throat for good measure. And then the fun part, I was fed to the lions. They had a zoo at the at the castle, and I was fed to the lions, and what was really found interesting was that the other day my mind leads me to look up for things, and I end up on pages on the internet where I'm like, How did I get here? And I found a picture in stained glass of the alchemist who actually exists in history that was the alchemist of uh Edward III who disappears from history.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_02And so what has this got to do with anything? Well, because of his experience, the alchemist never crossed over. And from that point onwards, he because he's got so much anger in his mind and despair, and he was murdered, and you know, then fed to the lions, and he was a good person, but cast as a bad person, forced to do things that he didn't want to, these thought streams form over your head. And the best way that I can explain to you what I saw in my mind was uh if you watch Harry Potter again, the Dementas, they form that black cloud, right? And so I tried to cross over, I wanted to go to heaven, but I hit the black cloud of negative thoughts and emotions, and I stayed there. And ghosts can't just cross over, you you stay in the location you are. So I stayed in the Tower of London until I was ready to attach to a bright light. So the next bright light that I attached to was actually another version of myself, who I'm not going to go into, who was on that site. And I was a very bright light in the next lifetime. The soul sent off another person. So he found the next version of me on the same site. Tokubi one of a million people that was at the at that site, and he attached to that person who never realized they were there. So this alchemist then stayed with my incarnations for every incarnation ever since, just in the background. The only time they ever influenced me as a soul was uh with emotions, so I would feel more heightened anger or whatever it is, but essentially he was uh just stayed there. Um, and it wasn't until I started to, in this lifetime, learn about alchemizing certain things in my life, um uh being having very specific experiences with death, um, experiencing, you know, um uh such an intense period, you know, a divorce is like death, right? Um my father's death was a death, um, you know, experiencing the alchemy about and learning hard lessons about death and the learning about the soul and how the soul goes on, how the internal mindstream goes on. I had to learn two main lessons about alchemy, about net about the human race's obsession with life and um getting older and younger but not dying. Learn the lesson that that the about the alchemy behind the eternal mindstream, and I had to learn the alchemy, alchemy lesson about money and about the energy side of money. And once I'd had those two main lessons, which have taken a long time over many incarnations to understand, then I was ready to realize that um I was here twice in one lifetime. And so that's when we get to the clubhouse room, and knowing there was extra energy attached to me, knowing that um I had to cross myself over, but having it done in a way which is well intended, but having two people do it in a way the first one didn't work and the second one was in such a manner that was violating, and knowing that this that other people saw this alchemist as a sorcerer or a wizard or a black magician, and that they saw that very negatively, and that was the echo, so to speak, of when he was tortured and made to try to create a philosopher's stone, a potion for extended life, whatever. So it sounds all very magical and made up, as a lot of past life regressions do, but when you can see the memories in your mind, when you've had the physical experience of people experiencing negative projections of your energy and knowing that you're not negative, and then being taken in, being able to see yourself get to a room where you're being tortured but having that blacked out, and then being able to see, like a movie, the experience of yourself in the Tower of London, and then being able to go to the history books and go, I have a picture of myself on a stained glass window. Um, and knowing specifically that the whole reason that I had this experience was because I'm here to teach about life and death, about the eternal nature of the mind stream, and to teach people not to be afraid of earthbound spirits and spirit attachments, to know that uh it's something that exists, we shouldn't be afraid of it. And it's a great blessing and honor and privilege to be able to identify and see energy that is earthbound or human-bound and to cross it over. And um that my journey of my soul since the beginning of time, where I have had these countless different examples of not crossing over, has been little has been orchestrated by the soul to get me to the point where I'm ready in a lifetime to do that as my mission. And so that's the funny thing that happened on the way the life to being a management consultant and a CEO.
SPEAKER_01That is quite quite a story, um, quite an incredible story. Um I want to ask, so the alchemist that you were, the soul that was attached to you, or the entity that was attached to you, um, that was stuck, when it was trapped, was that did that actually release it, release them, or did you you actually had to continue to do some more weak work to release them in a better way in a nice one?
SPEAKER_02No, so the time when when Tina actually did the Tina's version of uh spirit releasement, yes, he was he was forcibly detained and and crossed over. Um, because we react to the energy that we're given. So if somebody reacts to you and thinks that you're a certain way, then even a uh a ghost, an earthbound spirit, uh, we call them dark force entity, when they've got negative energy, they're gonna project what you see. So he he projected negative energy towards her because she was hostile because of what I told her. Um, so she was expecting negative, so he he matched that projection. Do you know what I mean? And he had a lot to be angry about, you know, being tortured and being made to do things beyond his his will. He was very he had all the ability to be a very negative spirit, but it wasn't his nature. And so um, yeah, once he was crossed across, um then uh I've dyed my hair. back one my physical appearance has changed dramatically in the last um uh since since he crossed over last I think it was November my appearance has changed drastically you you will see that um if you see uh old videos of me I had short dark brown hair like literally just below my ears really short my face was really um pale and like I looked like uh a living walking corpse just really upset like just down all the time and depressed and well not depressed but just sad you could see the sadness in my myself and um that was the the the dark anger that he was holding on to for being treated in this way and I guess it's always been why um I have been you know there's lessons there that I need to learn about death through this lifetime and there was lessons I need to learn about money and um uh not making being allowed to use money for good rather than for uh what I would call the superficial desires to uh have eternal life when you have eternal life already.
SPEAKER_01Yeah yeah and then not and to not find it in in the the same ways in the powerful egotistical um ways that that the kings did with you. I want to ask you just out of curiosity I'm gonna refer to I believe you I mean you mentioned Cindy Porter who we both like you said we both know her. And I just have to ask was were you the one who you were brothers in another lifetime with Cindy or siblings with Cindy when you when you did a past life with her?
SPEAKER_02No no uh Cindy and I haven't discovered any uh past life connections like that yet we've uh we've found lifetimes where I have indirectly killed her and she's in and she's indirectly killed me through our actions. We've never made siblings yet yet so no I I think um you're referring to when you did your uh cash did you do a cashic records training or yeah there was somebody else who was yeah there was somebody else who they had worked together but I thought it might be you because it was another I know who it was it was another person from Australia so that's why I was okay when you said worked with her I thought okay wait is there another is there another connection there but um yeah it might be Michelle yeah no uh Cindy and I sin Cindy's the only person that I have been allowed to get my past life regressions through. So my so my high self when I was ready to start doing past life regressions I was you know I was willing to go to some of the most famous past life regression therapists in the world and I was told very clearly no and uh I was told Cindy's the only person you're allowed to go through she's the only one that has the abilities to take you into what you need to go into. And I was like what is the relationship between Cindy and I and so you know each time uh we go into another past life of mine and I like I do the work. I've done I think um we must be up to eight or nine you know sessions now um they're always over two hours long that you know they're they're include full body energy rehealings you name it um so we have a particular relationship that goes back a long way uh we haven't discovered that yet you know obviously and it's not privy to say that if I had but uh uh there's something in our blueprint that says I am safe with her and she is safe with me even though we've killed each other in previous lifetimes it's part of the cycle so yeah fascinating so the way you do it the way you your approach to releasing um spirits helping people cross over is a much happier a much more gentle way than some of the things that you experienced yeah um so I have learned that the best way to cross a spirit over is to talk to them and uh I understand that the reason that I am in female form in this lifetime is that uh earthbound spirits see my motherly energy and so therefore they are uh attracted to my energy and feel safe around me. Um and so then I start a dialogue with them. And if it's in a graveyard I start a dialogue in my mind with them. If it's in a session a past life regression session where we identify that there is somebody attached to somebody else you know I call them darling. I you know I I the first thing that I do is I check what year it is for them and they'll tell me what year it is. It's never the same year as what we are in now. And then I say well sweetheart you know it's 2022 today um and if you're in 1932 then you've been something happened to you you know you've died but you didn't go to heaven what's your last memory and then usually they'll say something like I'm lost I you know I was going to the market and oh I think the horse ran over me or whatever it is uh I oh I went for a swim and oh I think I drowned and then they're like okay um and what happened why didn't you see the light so I find out why they didn't see the light why they didn't see the rainbow bridge and then they're like they'll either have one or two answers. I was afraid to go um because they're afraid of sorry three answers they're afraid of hell based on their religious upbringing and I have to explain to them that hell doesn't exist. Hell is a state of mind that we inhabit while we're on earth um and um for some that that gives them permission to cross over they're like what I'm like yeah no you're gonna be punished um and we figure out who's waiting for them and then I bring them to the top of the rainbow bridge and they can physically see the people that they're going to meet and then they're gone. Others um it's they didn't want to cross over because they attach to a person because they wanted to protect them. So it's a loved one a mother father a child a grandchild um they are worried about them or they have huge guilt. I did something bad to them in this lifetime I need to make it up to them or I committed suicide and I didn't realize how much it would affect them so I'm trying to help them. And so when that happens then I need to explain to them that whilst that is an honorable desire by being attached to them they're draining the human that they're attached to of their human energy they're influencing their thoughts and they're not allowed to it it it impacts their grieving process. So if they knew the person and they just say it was a grandmother who's attached to the granddaughter what you have to tell tell them is that well everybody in your family whoever knew you in that lifetime hasn't finished their grieving process yet. And we need them to finish their grieving process and we need you to finish your grieving process for the life that you had. We need you to have a life review so that you can understand why you had that life what lessons you learned what what um who you are not as a result of that lifetime you learn truths about your soul and we learn mostly what we're not um and uh then you know for some of them I can see I get flashes and visions that they've got a very important journey waiting for them or they have a very important piece of um training to do up in the life between lives or they have a very important piece of healing. So I'll see it'd be like well actually Jesus is waiting for you he needs to do this or you've got to they're waiting for you to reincarnate again but you need to go get healing and when I explain that to them they're like oh okay um and uh the very rarest cases are where the soul is so angry uh that this being is so angry um being is so angry about what happened to them that they've become mostly dark energy they're so they're fearful and dark energy and that's when they pretend to be a dark force entity and what we have to do then is we have to show them that they are a being of core white light. They check to their inner there is no such thing as dark energy it's just misguided thoughts and that um they are pure source energy um they are not who they thought they are and we hear their story about what happened to them we hear all their reservations and their issues and then we show them the light and explain the healing process that they are a wonderful person and we bless them and we cross them over. So it's about dialogue it's about respecting this the individual that hasn't crossed over it's about understanding them as a human being that they were once human being and it's about respecting that we're witnessing their story. Nobody has ever heard their story before and you treat them like you would a child like your own child and you treat them with utmost compassion and mercy and you um you listen to them and I have never had a spirit attack me whereas other people do spirit releasement they get attacked. I don't need to use lotions or potions or exorcisms or spells because I respect the uh I respect the entity the human being that is it is there I respect them deeply um and uh I I I always act from love and for me it's it's a huge honor and privilege and it's my favorite thing in the world to do you know is to cross people over. I don't know it's really weird isn't it you know other people like to go roller skating I I like to cross souls over because it gives me um uh pure joy and I feel so humbled and so privileged to have got to finally you know it it was 26 years in between that postcard and discovering and uh the story um that I feel really humbled that I have been given the opportunity in this lifetime to be of service and I finally understood what it means to be of service to people. You know people always talk about heart-centered businesses and being of service and putting other people first and blah blah blah and I've never got it to be honest it was always just face value and it wasn't until I understood that I had this ability to see um and and sense and talk and communicate with earthbound spirits uh and also attached spirits that I understood the true meaning of service in that um it's a service to yourself it's a service to your client and it's a service to the human being who hasn't made it to the afterlife and um it's energetically hugely draining for me you know uh sometimes I have to go to bed for quite a long time afterwards um I can have physical symptoms as a result of it um you know people say to me uh my partner says to me I'm so worried for you on how much this drains you of the energy and I was like I I couldn't stop doing it if even if I wanted to it's like uh it's what I'm here for and I have to do this and it's an honor to do it. So what don't ask me to stop doing uh that which I'm here for I appreciate and really get the care that you're coming from and I would feel exactly the same way if you were doing this.
SPEAKER_01But um you're here to support me and care for me and um uh tuck me into bed and let me know it's time to go to bed now you just need to rest uh but uh I have to do it but it you know it seems to me that listening to your talk that it's not only a healing journey for the souls that you're releasing for the spirits that are coming you know that you're helping cross over it's also hugely healing for the people who have had the attachment um and like you said you know even in yourself not only an emotional spiritual healing but a physical healing which I I find even maybe the most fascinating in all of it is that like what you're showing as far as like your physical appearance changing once that happened and I mean you're just helping on so you're you're serving on so many levels and I think that is just amazing work um that you do and it it took you you know a large part of your life a large part of your lifetime to to discover that and uh that it's amazing and and you know thank you for for what you do and for the service that you provide it's incredible. I think maybe this is a good place to to wrap up unless you have anything else that you want to share.
SPEAKER_02That's a story that I had to get at literally I've been growing because I was like I still haven't written my summit speech and it depends upon what I tell Laura today.
SPEAKER_01So it's like right well I'm glad I came first no I shouldn't I can't wait to hear your your summit speech um and with along with everyone else's I mean it's the that's going to be incredible as well and your and your and everyone's story in in the entangled no more book as well but tell everyone where they can find you how they can reach out to you if they if they would like to um you know all your socials.
SPEAKER_02Yeah so the easiest way to find me is by typing my name in Google Kateesh because my website is kateesh.com and everything you need is on the website uh links to all the socials you know I'm most predominantly active on Facebook even though I used to hate it I've mended my relationship with Facebook now and uh I have changed my services as of yesterday in that now you just book a package of sessions with me and instead of deciding I need this I need this I need this uh literally we have a session I can tell straight away what you need and we just go and do it and if that involves crossing over if it involves spirit releasement it involves that I I no longer delineate the services if it requires sound healing if it requires energy healing it's just when we're in the session when you're in the hypnotic state your soul and my soul work together along with the angelic team and we work out exactly what you need and we do it like that. It's it's no longer a I'm selling a service I've now got to the point literally as of yesterday where it's like well it seems like spirit releasement and crossing over is going to be in every session I do from now on as well as healing. So we're just gonna say I don't have a term anymore for who I am it's just I'm Katish and you come to me and I help.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I love that you're streamlined it's streamlined Katish and uh you know I will put um all your information in the show notes of course but um that's wonderful um and again thank you not only for what you do but for joining me today I was so grateful and honored to have had you here to share your a funny thing happened on the way to my life journey and um I also want to thank our listeners today.
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