From Controversy to Clarity Billy Carson and Christina Bruno

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SPEAKER_02 1:00

Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Billy Carson, aka Forbidden Knowledge. I want to talk to you guys today about a 12-day forbidden tour. This is not your average eating tour. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity hosted by myself, Billy Carson. It's gonna go beyond sports craft. A lot of time in a new quick meditation and exploring underneath the staff, deep beneath the turbine itself. And a five-star hotel. Either the four seats or fifty feet. Every day, back with lecture, eight with the food, and of course, virtual connections, and you're gonna create incredible friends that will last a lifetime, I guarantee you. Last year over 100 people join us, and every single one of them left completely changed forever. Now only a handful of seats remain. So make sure you hurry up and join us on this amazing journey before it sells out. If you've ever dreamed about walking the path of the ancients, now is your chance. Make sure you register today to reserve your spot before it's all gone. I can't wait to see you in Egypt. It's gonna be amazing. I guarantee it's gonna change your life. Okay, we are back. What's going on, everybody? Billy Carson, aka Forbid Nogs, my good friend Christina Bruno is in the house. What's up, Christina?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Thank you for having me. So much fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad you're doing feeling a lot better. I know you've been recovering from yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

I I had a surgery, all my wisdom teeth, internal, so I still can't totally open my mouth and speak properly, but um, yeah, we're getting there.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

We get there, you get you sound a lot better than yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

Yes, you can't keep me to shut up, like seriously.

SPEAKER_04 2:53

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Yeah, no, the surgeon was like the surgeon was like, You won't be able to talk for a few weeks. And I'm like, day two video, viral video. Yes, I think it did go viral.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

It did, it did a that thing was spooky too. Yeah, I think it's a real maybe it's a new avenue, like spooky stories. Well, but you know, anything that spikes people's cortisol and gets them feeling uh that suspense, it they always go viral. It draws them in, and you know, people intrinsically just want to know more about what that is because it spikes the um well the default mechanism in the human consciousness consciousness for for safety, security, and protection.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

It must have resonated with everyone because yeah, it's about McDonald's, around McDonald's, the meat, the story, the ancient history, and everybody resonated. So it's not just me.

SPEAKER_02 3:45

I mean, right, right, absolutely, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, we're trying to let some more people get in here. We're getting filled up a little bit here. We're getting some more people in coming into the live chat. What's going on, everybody? Today we wanted to cover uh today's topic is controversy and controversy with clarity, our feud.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Uh, we had a family feud, we did, and that was and I kind you know. Well, we're better friends now, so I kind of like it.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah, no, it's actually very good. Yeah, everything happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Everything happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

No doubt about it, no doubt about it. You know, so um let me just tell you from what happened, how it how it uh what happened, how come I made a video about what I saw. So I was I went over to my restaurant in my community, and uh and the owner of the of the restaurant is a big fan of forbidden knowledge, and he comes over and he's like, Hey Billy, um I gotta talk to you about something. I was like, Hey, what's up, man? Come on over. I thought you wanted to ask me some questions about the Sphinx or something. And he goes, This lady's online really tearing you up. I'm like, what lady? I'm like, what are you talking about? And then he shows me this video. Now I had no idea the video was like years old. I had no idea. No idea. And then so what happened? I guess the video got some new life.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Um, because um, I didn't even know it went viral, it was a very old video, and I want to start with the premise is that I stitched a TikTok video that I thought was your account, but apparently it was one of those uh impersonators that wasn't imposter account, right? They got your video, mixed it up between podcasts that you have done and put out this video because we've also we've already talked about Satan in the Garden of Eden and little Enki. So we're totally synced on that. Yeah, but the video that I saw before I knew you, because I'd never do that now to a friend. It's as I said, I didn't know him. It's like making a video talking crap about Madonna. Who's gonna nobody's gonna know, right? Nobody's gonna care. It's just plus, I used him as a hook, not clout. I got my own clout. I'm good, I'm very good.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

You're doing good, you're doing good numbers, you're doing great numbers.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

I go viral every week since I started. Something must be working, you know what I mean? So I I don't uh plus I try to expose what I don't what I don't agree with, my interpretation. I go around like and I do that, so it wasn't anything targeted towards you. And maya culpa on that. But the thing was that I saw this video, what it said didn't make sense, and my hook was I caught Billy Carson and a lie. Ha ha it works, they love it when I do that, right? No, the algorithm eats that it just loves it, but it ends up that it wasn't a Billy Carson video, it was some idiot that put pieces together, so that's how it happened. And the video is about um uh you said uh the Lord Satan of the Garden of Eden, right? And I came out because that video said that you got it from the legend of Adapa, and I'm like, No, it didn't. That's not in there.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

No, it's that's why I showed the book. I was like in my video, but I was like, this is the the myth of Adapa, it has nothing to do with the Garden of Eden in here, you know, and so yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Exactly, yeah, exactly. So that was that was just an ignorant mistake of who made that that AI video of you and put the pieces together to make it look like you were saying something outrageous, yeah. So that's what I corrected. I'm like, no, the word say satana didn't come until Latin. Um, I explained what the legend of Appa was, and look at that, the video went viral, but not because I was attacking you, I was just first of all, it's not an attack for two people to have two different opinions. But long story short, me and him we agree on what the story is. It was that video that was messed up. So, what happens? Me and Billy get to be friends, um, because of another video that I'm talking shit about, and basically, you're right, and Billy Clarkson's a clone, that's not Billy, right? Of course, me. And so we get to be friends with that video, and it was awesome. And I'm like, with all the educational content I do, how does he meet me? The weird video, okay. Whatever. Universe works in mysterious ways.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

That that clone video went well.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Billy Carson goes to a restaurant because everybody agreed with me, they didn't think it was you either. Plus, we don't know that there's a lot of AI videos about you, it's those AI videos. Can you see? I see everything.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

Yeah, yeah, you're good. Yeah, yeah, you're good now. I throws for a second. So, what I won't okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

So, what I was saying is that a lot of us don't know what's really you and what's the AI video, so it doesn't look like you a lot of times, and we're like, what happened? Did they clone him? See what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 8:50

Yeah, and I said if it happens, so many AI sites exactly.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

I didn't know that. I didn't know that the video I stitched wasn't even from you. See what I mean? Yeah, so now this poor guy doesn't realize because I always wear the different wigs, I'm sponsored with wigs also. I just like them in general, so I change them all the time. Yeah, I don't know how this video from 2023 went viral again with thousands of likes, right?

SPEAKER_04 9:15

It went all over, it was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

I had no idea. I don't even monetize on that video anymore, so I didn't even care. Like, who I knew I knew nothing. So this is me going on YouTube to go get my funds this month. Billy Carson has a new video. I'm like, Oh, Billy has a new video, let's go watch. And now I'm over here and he starts talking about this woman that did this thing. And I'm like, who's this witch? How dare she go after my Billy? Right? I'm like very protective, right? And then he's like, and she's also been on my podcast twice. And look at me, I've been on the podcast twice, and then he's like, and she's very nice. And I'm like, I'm very nice. And he's like, I don't know why she would say this. And I'm like, yeah, why should she, why would she say this? Right? Next thing I know, I see my little head up here behind me. I'm like, what the fuck just happened? What me? I I'm I'm the evil one. What did I do? He didn't even call me. I'm like, is that why I haven't heard from him anymore? And I'm like, because I just had the surgery, so I'm also medicated and I'm crazy, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:24

I didn't really, I didn't even know you had surgery, I had no idea. I just three people contacted me within three hours. The guy I met in person, the the owner of the restaurant, and two people text me the link who don't even know each other. And I'm like, what is this? And when I clicked on it, it had hundreds of thousands of views, and I'm like, What the hell is going on? And you know, but again, TikTok is a deadly place for some things because if you go type in Billy Carson on TikTok, you're gonna see a hundred Billy Carsons show up, a hundred forbidden knowledge, all spelt differently, and you're gonna see me selling toothpaste. I'm gonna be selling medical products. I'll be I got I'm saying you can't read your cell phone while you're sleeping, all these crazy AI videos that they take my podcast clips and they make them flash really fast. Then they put the b-roll.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yes, you need a hundred people just hunting down your fake accounts and reporting them.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

That's too hard. Yeah, so what I do is I trademark. I just recently trademarked my face, my image, my likeness, my voice. And so now I have that. We talked about it yesterday. So now I have that, so I can actually use that. Now I gotta hire somebody to go maybe I have to get my business attorney to submit it to the legal departments of the platforms over and over and over.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Yes, it's complicated also to do that, so it's a pain in the butt. I know, I know, yeah, but for you it's worth it. Um, yeah, if they copy me, I'm just gonna come online and start burning and scorching the earth. I mean, that's and that's what happened to me. I'm watching this video and I'm like, oh no, and my blood starts boiling, and I have a bad temper, but you know, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, how dare he? He didn't call me. Yeah, yeah. So first thing I do, I'm like, so you're so what you did was decide to make a video, and it's it's beautiful because you saw my real personality. I'm a real person, I I'm not gonna be politically correct. No, right. I'm like, Mr. Carson, the what are you doing? Right. So next thing I know, he ended up seeing that I had the surgery. He's like, Are you okay? And I'm like, No, one of my best friends just called me a cloud chaser.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

I'm not okay. Plus, I had a surgery and I'm crazy right now.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

Okay, so I called you, I said, Can I call you?

SPEAKER_00 12:41

And you said yes, yes, absolutely. No, you got to video call me because you got to see me with all the scars and everything to realize I'm not even capable right now to hunt anyone down, let alone you. I'm over here trying to do a GoFundMe to go to Egypt with him, and I'm like, dude, stop ruining my plans, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Right, my no, we we got it also. We had a great conversation as we talked for quite a while. Um we got to know each other, yeah, because I'm like absolutely because I really do like a lot of the ancient civilizations. I like the way I like the way you the research you do, I like the way you explained them. Obviously, that was a very old video, and it was a good hook to get the views, and it worked. Hook, it really worked because let me tell you the real Billy didn't say that.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

See what I mean? But the real Billy Carson, the thing that's that's upsetting, even for me, is that you never said Lord Satana from the Adapa story. I'm like, who I'm yeah, I'm a perfectionist like you, and I'm like, uh-uh-uh. I got Billy, but that was my hook. I got Billy Carson in a lie. I actually had to go look who sent me that wig, what period of time was it? I'm like, I don't even like that blonde wig. That's old, old. And so that was the thing. And I said, the first thing I said to you was, what did you do? Yeah, what did you do? Because between me and you, we have oceans of followers. Oh, yeah, and yours were attacking me, and mine were coming after you. I saw it and I was like, Okay, we gotta do this war of the titans. I'll do it. I don't want to, but I will because that's you know, I can't lose. I'm very competitive.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

I love this team thing. You don't understand. I love this. This this is I always knew that this was something I felt it, but I was just like, ah, don't be stupid. Billy Carson's not gonna look at you, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 14:51

And now they're here. You're here, yeah. You're here. There's very few women. What makes you stand out is the very few women um in ancient civilizations, you know. Of course, we both talk about conspiracies too, but it's the very few women in ancient civilizations that really can grasp it, understand it, but also articulate it. So that's why you go viral a lot. That's why it stands out even more than some of the other people, you know. And uh, I would have never had you on my podcast if I if I didn't think you had real true depth of knowledge. I didn't what happened was to for everybody watching was that video was so old, it somehow rekindled its life again.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Uh I feel yeah, I feel that it kind of hurt your feelings because yeah, I was like, What about you? I said I didn't let this lady on my podcast. We get along so great. I know with you. We are we talk about family and friends, like we're really getting to know each other. And for me, as I even told you, I tell everyone he's the only person I can speak to. It is so gratifying, and in my life, I've never had another person like me that I can talk to, and we know what we're talking about. You don't understand for someone like me, that's that's everything. So I'm like, I'm gonna lose that for this BS. No, and so the first thing I said, like, what did you do? That was an old video, I didn't know it existed. If you had only called me, the first thing I would have done was like, Oh, I'm sorry, let me go take that down. That's something stupid and something old. And at the end of the day, we've talked about the satana thing, and we agree how it played out. It was ankey, it was anlil, it's a term that they threw around, and then later in biblical times, right? It was applied. Yeah, but in ancient Sumer, there was no such word. That's all I said. I didn't say he's a phony, he's this. I didn't say any of that. So, what I think happened was I think you have PTSD from other people that have attacked you.

SPEAKER_04 16:45

Oh, you're damn right, I do.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Yeah, so we were getting so along, and you felt betrayed. That's my intuitive empathy that I'm doing. I was like, What in the hell? Why exactly? And then I felt betrayed because you did the video and didn't call me. And so when we talked, I'm like, Oh, I know what he's feeling. I'm like, Oh my god, I could feel you, yeah, yeah. And I and it was like me, and I'm like, Okay, I apologize, let's do this. You take down yours, I'll take down mine. I'm like, we're not creators that are desperate for money that we need to fake a feud online. You know that people do that. That's not us.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Oh, they do it all the time. That's what that's what a lot of world, a lot of those world star um controversies are just planned.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Yes, it's prop, it's it's PR, it's all PR, it's public relations. Yeah, this is not what we did. This was a genuine how dare you! You hurt my feelings. I believed in you, and vice versa. First, it happened to him, then to me. And I'm saying this happened for a reason, it cannot be random. Because look, then yesterday I had to admit to him. I'm like, dude, no, I like you a lot. I would never, and I also told you, you go tell that restaurant owner if he gives you any more crap. You say, No, that's just her flirting with me. That's my flirting way. That's how I flirt.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

I told him I texted him today. I said, I said we got it all straightened out. It's uh it was a misunderstanding.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

I'm just look, I'm very um uh I'm flirting. That's it. That that's my way. Hey, I got your attention, didn't I? I didn't even do it on purpose. Look at that. I'm just there. But this is all that happened, and then yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Wow, wild, but yeah, so we got it all cleared up, it's all nice. We're gonna continue to work together. Uh, I'm gonna have you on my season two of Anunnaki. My daughter is adding you to the TV app so that you can watch season one.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

Yes, please.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

And uh, you know, so we'll bring we bring experts in, and what I find in the Anunnaki docuseries is again more men than women. I only have one woman in the entire series. So I because I knew there was a lack of women talking, who's who's the other woman? Uh uh, it's um I'm sorry, Caroline Corey, the producer, Caroline Corey.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

She never heard she. I don't know any.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

She produced um A Tear in the Sky, which even got it, even Joe Rogan had it featured on one of his podcasts. He talked about it. She was tracking UFOs coming through a portal over Catalina Island in California with military cameras. Uh, which was interesting.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

This is my jam, love it.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Yeah, yeah. And uh, so that's the only one I had. So I'd like to definitely get Dr. Teresa Bullard. Dr. Tris, Dr. Teresa Bullard White. Now her she's got married, that's her last name. Uh, she's a quantum physicist, uh, but she's also into ancient mysteries. And then, of course, you that would bring more balance to uh that even I knew I was so overwhelmingly male in the first season. My uh my narrator in between the scenes is Alexis Brooks. She's a female with a phenomenal voice, she's a great interviewer and she's a host at different events, and she's been on a lot of TV shows since the 70s.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

It's a male-dominated world. And I've always said, Why don't other I just don't think that it's something that other women like? And usually, even though I was always into being on television in Italy and being a fitness model and everything, I worked with my appearance, but I always had my brain, and I was always you know, but it's very hard for me to be appreciated for my intelligence because when I was younger, all they could see is that the image coming at you. So nobody ever, you know, they'd listen to me about fitness and nutrition, but that was it. And then when I moved back to America, this is when the boom happened. I was like, wow, I always knew that there was a reason why I was studying things that other people did not, and now I can share it. And then I found out that Billy Carson exists. I'm like, oh no, right, but everybody else is very old or deceased. You yeah, we're the last we're the last Highlanders here. I'm not even joking. I know there's a lot of old ones, they're up there because all the new kids, as I said, they fantasticalize the stories and change them, and and it and right there, you're defeating the purpose of us teaching true history for you to resonate with it and awaken to it, activate those DNA codes and everything. And by them telling these stories and showing lizard people with like all these things, you're ruining it.

SPEAKER_04 21:20

I know.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

So we're yeah, so out of everybody, you're the last standing. Now I'm here. See, okay, uh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Just see we keep we gotta keep it going.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

You know, there's nobody ever knew that I was a nerd. That's a thing. Because I always they always saw me as fitness, this and cute and this, and the model and the TV shows and everything. So they didn't know. I'm a huge nerd, I read five books at a time, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Yeah, yeah, no, it's great, yeah. And we're the ones that have to carry the torch because uh, like you were saying earlier, a lot of the ones that had been before us, they're they're beginning now, as we can see, they're getting very elderly, very old, and they're beginning to pass away.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

We lost we who uh chariots of the god Van Doneken.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Eric Van Daneken, he was my mentor.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Yes, yeah, see, I always wanted to meet him, I never got to.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

In episode seven of Anunnaki, when you watch it on the TV app, you'll see that he actually hands me a torch. He actually gets up and he he he added this to the scene without me knowing about it with Caroline Corey. He had a torch, uh, and he he lights his torch and then he hands me the torch. And that was the last thing he had ever done on mainstream TV.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

Wow, that's that's that's nice powerful. That's nice.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

Yeah, that was really powerful for him to hand me the torch. And so I was really excited about that. I gave I also did his last podcast after that ended. They called me for a podcast. I was on his the last podcast, and uh he was on my last the last TV show. So I was the last of the last with him for anything he had ever done in this reality. Uh, but that was a big loss. I flew all the way to Switzerland to see him for a day. That's how much influence he had over me. Call him. Up called me up, told me to come to meet him at his house. I hopped on a plane and flew straight to his house in Switzerland at the top of the mountain, spent the whole day with him and then flew back home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

See, if I didn't have my bunny rescue, I'd be traveling all over the world too. I I didn't plan that I was gonna meet you. If not, you don't understand. Like, where are you? Oh, you're in Florence? Okay, coming. And I'm like, okay, I need anyone wants bunnies for adoption? No adoption fee.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah, yeah. You got a lot of animals.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

I love I love saving animals. I I love I love having I used to have a business with with the luxury pet clothing also. I just love them so much. Um, and I can feel their emotions and everything. It's just so beautiful. So, yes, I have I've I'm full of animals and pets, and uh and yeah, nice. They're not gonna live forever. So, I mean, no, they're not, they're not. This is this like I I believe in my life has phases, and I'm like, um, I know what's coming in a in a year or two, give it a little bit of time. My son's gonna, you know, he's still a teenager, he's gonna graduate high school. My daughter graduated last year, and then after that, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna travel. I'm gonna travel with you.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

That's yeah, you gotta come on the forbidden tours. That's what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Yeah, I'm gonna help you organize them. Once I don't have anything to do, I'm gonna be very bored and I multitask. So I'm gonna be writing books and helping you. There you go.

unknown 24:30

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:31

So we have uh we have the tour coming up this year, uh, which is too it's too late for this tour. But 2027, we have two Egypt tours. Uh, we have one that's gonna be in May and one will be in October. Okay, nice. Uh, I'll probably I think May might be the easier one.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

It's closer to my birthday.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

But we'll sponsor you for the May tour. Okay, so you come to Egypt in May. So any any of your people who want to hang out that's right, it's gonna be your birthday gift. Any of the people want to hang out with Christina in Egypt, you gotta register.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

I was just gonna say, let's do a meeting greet even with my people, so it's not just gonna be him. Like, as I said, he knows the true history and the the the the science. I know the occult. He doesn't know how to do spells, that's my job. So, see how we complete each other in that. There are there are things that I like the quantum physics part I learned from you, right? Even though I like science, I don't know as much as someone like you, and then there's the occult part and the intuitive part, and that's me. And so it's a yin-yang situation, and I'm telling you, I really love this.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. And we got special, we have a special celebrity guest coming to Egypt on that May tour. Uh, I can't announce his name as of yet, as soon as I get the contract fully signed. It's a big name, and uh, I'll be performing with him on stage as well. Uh, and we'll have workshops, classes, and uh, it's gonna be a tour that a lot of people can do because some people can't do my 14-day tour, but they can do a seven-day tour. This will be a seven-day tour. So, uh, a lot of research. We'll do we'll do archaeology. Um, we'll be uh going in active dig sites, we'll be going underneath and inside of pyramids, and I'm bringing my five phones and four cameras, and I'm my GoPro.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

I'm gonna bring them all.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

I have so much bring the meta glasses, everything because sometimes it's easier to just walk with the glasses on.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

I even have the GoPro that goes underwater. You don't understand. I do scuba diving too.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Yeah, yeah, those are good. I've used those before, those are really, really good. Yeah, yep. Um, and so it's gonna be a great tour. We don't have to fly, and that particular tour, we don't have to fly out of Cairo to somewhere else because um it's a seven-day tour. So we'll do everything within Dozier, uh, Sakara, Cairo. We're gonna go to the halls of a menti underground. We're gonna touch the rejuvenation chambers, take pictures with them. It's gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

I'm going to fuse with the pavement, and everybody's gonna be like, Where'd Christina go? I opened the portal.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Bye. You see me there. I'm gonna be coming with my little crystals and stuff and trying to do my little portals and everything.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Yeah, yeah. No, it's gonna be great, it's gonna be phenomenal. And we'll we'll do a few more podcasts leading along up to that as well. And like I said, um, as soon as I get season two laid out for my guest speakers that are gonna be my guest experts that will be involved, I'll get you some of those dates and uh we'll get everything set up.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

That's amazing, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah, absolutely. So it's gonna be cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

So again, I did not expose, criticize, debunk, none of that. That's all happening in your heads. Yeah, all I did was find a video that wasn't him, unfortunately. Yeah, and I and I stitched it, but when I got to meet him, he didn't say that because we agree on the story how it went.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Yeah, we had talked about that particular thing already, yeah. Outside of me even seeing that clip.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

But you know what I like? The fact that you got upset means that you care, and I'm like, see, and I cared too because I got upset.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

I was watching that's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

I'm watching the video. Oh, yeah, a new bid Billy video. Yeah, this woman, and I'm like, Who is this? You know, and I'm like, this amateur, how dare she? Let me get her. What's the name? And my freaking face pops up there.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

I'm like, I'm like, he has my phone number, he has all my phone numbers. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02 28:48

Yeah, yeah, I know. It's funny, you know. But hey, you know, but it's good, it's good. I'm glad that we got to do this publicly as well. See how people talking can get over these things. That's important to understand.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Other people would have ripped each other apart. Yeah, we did it for one second, and then we realized something was off. Yes, because all I could say was, listen to my words. I'm like telepathically trying to get in his head, right? No, no, don't it's all I misunderstood, you misunderstood, and then I re-missunder, and that's fine. But it's that's how you do it. You talk to people, you talk it through, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

You talk it through.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Like, I I I yesterday I even gave like a lecture to my sisters, and I'm like, this is how you have a relationship with someone because everyone has a boyfriend or a husband that we can't talk, and we're always yelling, and you argue, and it goes into these. And I'm like, how come my intelligence and his intelligence didn't need to argue? We did not so we're doing something right, so you helped me prove that it's not me, it's them. And same thing goes for you, it's not you, it's your exes because the way you spoke and the way I spoke, the air cleared out 30 seconds, not joking, people. 30 seconds, yeah, because we were on it was the same vibration, I think.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Oh, yeah, yeah. And I wish I I wish I had a chance to talk to some of the other people who've made these crazy videos over the years and just have a conversation with them. But they would they always would refuse to have a conversation. So before I contacted you, I reached out to my team and I was asking my my social media manager, she's really good with you know, she's a female, she understands, and she was like, just you know, um, you can, but I wouldn't have an extensive conversation unless she's open to you know having a good communication about the thing openly. And I saw that you were, and I was like, Okay, so this is good.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

No, I was I was like, No, I was so upset because I I I don't like to be the only times I mean to people is when I'm reflecting energy, and that was a video made about someone that I didn't know, it was a video with misinformation because it wasn't even you, so I was right to correct it actually. I was right, and my video was right, I was right, yeah. But the thing was you know that they were utilizing my exactly uh the 11 labs version of my voice on a clip that exactly, and because I have a large following that likes when I go around and tell them, Look, this video isn't truthful, this is that, this is that, this is my research. See, I'm very non-fantasticalizing, I stick to what I know, yeah, and so that that was it. Uh, so I even felt bad that I had wronged you and unintentionally, but again, I didn't even remember, and then we were laughing because I went back in my phone and I found another video where I did that.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I'm like, delete it was like from three years ago or something like that. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

But that's because you were married to the handler.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Oh, yeah. Oh, the the the I can't comment on that publicly.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

I can. Can I? I can, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:03

No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 32:05

No, okay, no, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Well, that was it, but anyway, that is a feeling that I shared with a lot of your followers. We were noticing something was off, we knew it, we would talk about it, and again, I didn't know you, so you were the famous person we were all talking about, which is totally normal for a content creator. Sure, you're a celebrity. I mean, that's what you are. So people are gonna talk about you.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Oh, yeah, it's normal.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

I mean, you know, but the thing is, I come from a place of truthfulness and like truth seeking, and other people do it for clout and for malicious intent, or like they think that if they put you down, they're gonna be better. See what I mean? That's Freud's Freud says that people that are inferior, have an inferiority complex, subconsciously know this, so they will tend to put others down to make themselves feel better. Okay, I studied psychology too. Um, so that's what other people are doing. When I go around, I'm not doing it to be mean, not just to you or like even when I do it for other people. I'm just saying, look, you believe in me, you trust my opinion. This video is a little bit exaggerated. This video, this um, example, there's a video of astrology. You commented on it, you liked it, and this girl is showing a picture of what is a black hole exploding. And I'm like, uh, excuse me, that's an AI image. You're presenting it as a picture that we took like this. The world's large, there's a telescope large like the world. That's not true. There are 900 telescopes that are taking little pictures and they're all putting it together. So I'm gonna do a video, not debunking her, but correcting her so that people understand. Look, everything you see from space is CGI, those aren't real images. That's I I followed the James Webb telescope. I even discovered another galaxy where there like our millions of suns, and I'm like, who's up there? So I know what it looks like when they're the actual telescope images, it's not you don't see all that precise, pristine stuff. So that's all what I did. Occasionally I will do that content like that, occasionally, but that's it. Otherwise, I I teach my own lessons, I share my stories. If I find something interesting, I'll share it. Um even things about celebrities. If if I'm scrolling and I see it, I'm gonna talk about it because that's the job. Yeah, that's the job. While he's more of you're more of a professional that sticks to a certain topic, yeah. I'm a no, I have five different niches, but that's just my personality. You see how I do a lot of things, and it's the same with content creating, right?

SPEAKER_04 34:54

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

I'm not attacking him, I'm not debunking him. Once since I've met him, I have reinforced and validated everything he says.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

That's true, that's true. You absolutely have, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

And you also, there were things that I didn't know that I was able to ask you, and you could confirm or tell me what was right, what was right. And when someone like Billy Carson validates something, like Ningi Zita, I was like, is that Anki's son? Who is that? Is that thought? Who is that? Who's that? That one is that that one because there are so many mixing names and through the cultures and years that it's so hard to follow. It took me five years, it took me five years to memorize all the names and realize who was who.

SPEAKER_04 35:40

Yeah, it took a long time.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

Now I'm preparing another explosive revelation video where they want us to think mainstream history wants us to think that Lamashtu is Inana, is Lilith, is that I just found, I just found it. Lamashtu is a totally different story that some theorize is the same person, it has nothing to do with Lilith, she came way before, and it I'll explain it better in my video, but I'm just saying, even people like us, every day we discover new things, every day.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Never ending. Don't ever think that I know everything or that he knows everything. Everyone is learning everything day by day. We're evolving. We were talking about it yesterday. We're so I'm so much smarter than I was 10 years ago, 15, 20 years ago, and transformation over time. We evolve, we evolve, we learn, we evolve, and that that never stop learning, never stop learning.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

And you know, I look back at some of the stuff um of myself, you know, these old clips and things that pop up from 15 years ago, and it's like I can even see even from there some of my ideas and concepts, not not fast, but there's been some micro micro changes and shifts as I gain more knowledge and learn more and observe more and got more points of contact to connect better dots. Yeah, it just happens. It's no it's part of the process. That's how science works. If we started off with um, you know, uh Newton, right? And and the apple falling out of a tree, and we stuck stuck with only that version of science that he was able to conceive and then teach, we wouldn't be online right now talking to each other through a satellite because it wouldn't work. So it's this gradual process of pushing the envelope, learning more, connecting more dots, and pushing science to the edge so that we can bend it, break it, and find new versions of science or new areas of science that we didn't even know exist, so we can expand our mind, expand our technology, and everything else.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

And I love how science is validating spirituality more and more. Like, yeah, they're oh, dimensions exist, and we're like, Yeah, yeah, you called us kooks for saying it years ago, and now dimensions exist, it's all real, all yes, everything, everything that we've been saying. Like there, there's even scientific proof of like the soul leaving the body when we die.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Yeah, they've weighed the body now. Once the soul leaves, they know that the body loses a certain amount of weight. I forget the terminology for the weight, it's a very light amount, but they can now just they can make a distinction between the spirit inhabiting the body and the spirit not inside the body.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

There have I seen photographs of literally like a light, like a smoky light over the body that just passed away, and then it's not there in the next frame. Like something comes out, some something lifts, and they have all this technology now. I used the spirit box, I think a couple of months ago. I closed that thing right away. I was gonna be like, I thought it was just gonna be like fun entertainment. I didn't even think it was real. Yeah, and and I'm like, okay, so what happened to Charlie Kirk? And in the video, you hear a name, and I'm like, what this happened here? I'm like, okay, we're gonna close this, we're gonna put it back in the box and we're gonna send it back to Amazon because I don't want to do that ever again. That was creepy even for me.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

I'm I don't even like scary movies.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

That was creepy even for me. Like, I I'll watch a scary movie, but I'm never scared. I'm like, that's not real. That's not real.

SPEAKER_02 39:25

I can't watch it. Maybe somehow they get my they kept my cortisol spiked, they get me all so I you know I don't watch them, but yeah, but yeah, I can watch an action film, but the scary ones, you know, where there's some imminent type of uh gross, gruesome death approaching somebody, but they don't know what that happened.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

I do turn away. I don't when I I know that the the or like if there's weird sounds, I'll put the volume down. I don't want to hear that frequency, yeah. Um like you know, uh American horror movie, those sounds in the intro, don't listen to don't listen. I'm telling people also don't listen to the intro sounds of a lot of movies. That's where they get you. It's uh it's something that messes it's something there's something's happening, I can feel it, and I right away. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

That's why they put the subliminal codes and the subliminal programming in.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

Yes, they they are hypnotizing people. I feel like it's like something hypnotic that they're gonna make you do or something.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

They were doing it so much that they put a law out against it. Yes, they still find very curious, uh, very creative ways to still do it. Uh, they were making people buy more cans of soda at movie theaters and things like that, all through these subliminal sounds and messagings, and then someone put on frames and yeah, when when like you make a commercial, if you put one image, I don't know, I don't know, just say a product, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Um, there's gonna be a movie, and they're gonna be like five times within certain image where you don't see it. You can't perceive it because your eye sees it and it goes into your head, and that's science.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Um, they triggered you, go buy this in the 80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

It was a technology that was in that was created for commercials, subliminal messaging to make you buy certain products, and and that's when you see those movies that when uh those people take off the glasses, they see publicity, publicity, buy, buy, buy, and then they put them on, and everything's oh nice. Yeah, we're the ones that see publicity, publicity. I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you. And it's oh my god, it's frustrating to live like this. You know how many times I I when I was younger, I'd be like, I wish I didn't have these abilities, I wish I was dumber because this is stressful. Yeah, other people aren't, yeah. I'm like, we have people, we have we have politicians that are casting spells on us, and I tell people, and they're like, Oh, you're a kook.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Oh no, they cast spells, they heavily believe in casting spells. They use word, I call it word salad, but that word salad are spells that they're casting through that microphone, saying things that aren't real in a way that they're casting it into the conscious and the subconscious. Yes, uh, they're they're creating their own version of history, their own reality tunnel.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

Aquino that worked for the government is a huge Satanist of set, the temple of set. He created mind war, which is literally how to brainwash you with subliminal messaging to make you do what they want, and they use it, they invented it, they use it. Um, it's 444 right now. I just looked at the clock. Look at that.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

It is it is 444 on the east coast.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's what they're doing.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Yeah, I know. Well, I gotta hop on another podcast in 15 minutes. But uh, thanks for coming on. We cleared it up, everyone. We're good friends, everything is great, it's all peace, it's all love and joy. We're good to go. Uh, a misunderstanding, but this is a good social experiment and a good social example of yes, and it's an example difference, and people can still have a communication, a conversation like adults.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

Yeah, we do we did the fighting for about three seconds. How dare you, clout chase, or who clout me, who who might chase, and I got my own clout. We did that, that was fun. It was like a married, it was like watching a married couple fight.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

It was like an old couple, yeah. Like my family was like, my sister goes, Is he your boyfriend?

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Why are you what's going on? And I'm like, not yet.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

No, no, no, no, no. Anyway, y'all, we appreciate y'all. We thank y'all. Thanks for hanging out today. I gotta go back to work again on another. I'll be working until 10 o'clock, 10 30, 11 o'clock tonight. All right. Thank you so much, Christina. I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Pleasure. It was a pleasure to be here.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

All right, catch you later.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Ciao, guys.

unknown 44:01

Bye.