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Marriage Rapid Fire Fun and Games with Scottie and Vicky Albious - 307
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What if the quickest answer tells the deepest truth about your marriage? We invited our friends Scottie and Vicky to play a rapid-fire game—coffee or dinner, quiet drive or music, practical help or romance—and watched the laughs open doors to real insight. The fun never left, but it made room for faith, vulnerability, and a fresh look at the small habits that hold a Christ-centered marriage together.
We share how being “anchored” doesn’t mean smooth waters; it means choosing grace when pride wants the last word, and choosing apology when silence feels easier. You’ll hear how different prayer styles—quiet reflection on the commute vs bold out-loud declarations—work together to steady a home. We unpack why sermon podcasts speak to some while worship playlists lift others, and how honoring those differences can deepen unity rather than divide it.
Parenting brought the sharpest lessons. A strict, black-and-white approach met a nurturing, compassionate heart, and both had to change. We talk through repairing trust with older kids, blended family dynamics, and the courage to apologize when the Holy Spirit nudges. Along the way, we name tiny “tells” of love—who loses the keys, who’s late, who turns down the radio—and how those moments can become chances to serve instead of scorekeeping. By the end, you’ll have a simple at-home challenge: ask five rapid-fire questions with your spouse, let first answers stand, and then talk about what they reveal about rest, connection, and care.
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A Playful Format With Real Stakes
Daniel MooreThis week we're gonna do something a little different, and by different, we mean slightly risky because we're gonna hand the microphone to another married couple, and we told them not to overthink their answers. So, what could possibly go wrong? Well, this week, our friends Scottie and Vicky Albious are back with us, and this episode is all about fun, laughter, and those honest split-second reactions that reveal way more about marriage than a three-hour deep conversation ever could. From coffee versus dinner dates to who actually loses the keys, I mean, we already all know who does that. We're diving into the realities of everyday married life. The silly, the sweet, and the surprising spiritual. This week's episode is simple, fun conversations, faith woven in naturally, and encouragement that a Christ-centered marriage can be joyful, meaningful, and deeply grounding, even when one of you definitely didn't hear the other one the first time. Welcome to Marriage Life and More. This is a podcast about marriage, Bible and book studies, and we interview people with inspiring stories. I'm Daniel Moore, your host, and once again, sitting over here next to me is my beautiful co-host, my wife Michelle.
Michelle MooreHey hey.
Why Rapid Fire For Marriage
Icebreakers And One-Word Marriage Check
Daniel MooreThank you guys for joining us this week. If you're not familiar with our show, check out our website at marriagelifeandmore.com for our platforms. Our YouTube and Rumble links are there. We're also on the Christian Podcasting app Edifi. We're also on your Google and Alexa Smart devices. You can also visit us on social on Facebook, Instagram, and X at CTGAPOnline. If you're a fan of our show, please subscribe. Feel free to leave a comment on our platforms, give us a thumbs up or five-star review and Apple Podcast. And we'd be thankful to you for doing that. Well, this week we're gonna take a little twisty turn away from what we normally do. We're gonna have a fun episode this week. Scottie and Vicki Albious are with us again. Hello, and we're gonna have some fun. So this week we're gonna do a little bit of marriage rapid fire and finish the sentence. We're gonna have some fun this week with our episode. Again, we have Scottie and Vicky Albious with us here once again. Hello. Thank you guys for hanging out for another week. We've had a couple awesome episodes with you guys, and this one's gonna be no exception. Uh, but this week we're gonna take a little bit of a different approach with our episode. A lot of times we're kind of serious about the stuff we talk about. We're gonna do a fun one this week because marriage can be fun, and we're gonna do that. So, what we're gonna do this week is we're gonna do some rapid fire and some finish the sentence, and we're gonna see how equally we are on what we think about some of these answers and see how different we are in different things. So, as we get started here, we've got a couple of icebreaker questions that we're gonna answer. Uh, the first one is how long have you guys been married? We're going on 12 years.
Vicky AlbiousWe've been married six and a half in three days.
Scottie AlbiousOkay.
Vicky AlbiousNo, no, eleven and a half. I was like, okay, she's totally lying. I was like, I'm out. No, I'm thinking six months. 11 and a half, yeah. In three days.
Scottie AlbiousShe totally got me confused because I was believing. I was like, okay, I guess it has been six years. I don't know what to think right now.
Vicky AlbiousWe have a 10-year-old.
Scottie AlbiousI was trying to do the math there, but it wasn't quite admitted. Yeah, mine wasn't working either. I was like, I just believe I just went with it. I was like, yeah, that's right.
Michelle MooreThe confused look on your face.
Scottie AlbiousI know. I was like, am I wrong? Michelle?
Michelle MooreAlmost 24 years.
Daniel MooreI think I agree with you. I love that. That's awesome. One word you'd use to describe your marriage right now.
Vicky AlbiousBusy. I feel like life is so busy. No. Yes, it is anchored, but anchored.
Daniel MooreThat's good. How would you describe ours? Steamy. Oh.
Scottie AlbiousShe's like Tabasco. So we're gonna go there, are we?
Michelle MooreWe are.
Scottie AlbiousI say I say anchored because I think about how much we've gone through in life, and I'm not just saying us, everybody.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Scottie AlbiousAnd I want to remember our marriage is anchored through rough there's no calm waters, expect the, you know, expect the rough waters. But even though through all that we're still stable. Yeah. We you know, we've we've tried our best to uh influence stability, uh consistency, you know, in in those rough waters. Yeah.
Daniel MooreThat's really good. And I think, you know, Michelle and I, we can we're busy too and anchored. You're laughing because you're like steamy. We're steamy, I guess.
Michelle MooreI really have no word for that. I don't even know why.
Daniel MooreI mean, our shower shoots hot water, and it when I take a shower, it gets pretty steamy. Is that what you're talking about? Just make sure I clarify here where we're at. Uh it's definitely not steamy.
Michelle MooreI was just trying to get something out of you and you just sat there. You did the hot water heater. Well, whatever.
Scottie AlbiousUh and those are differences in your guys' marriage. That's right.
Michelle MooreWhat one word would you describe our marriage?
Daniel MooreOh. It's very busy. I will say I kind of agree with Vicky on that one. Uh but I like, I mean, Scottie's answer too. They're I think both of those definitely because I think we're in the best place we've ever been. Yeah. Yeah. In our marriage for sure. Right. And it just gets better every day. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousSo yeah. I think for you guys it'd be like light. That's how I see you guys, because you're you're such an influence on marriages because of what not one, what you're doing, but consistency, you know, in in bringing in uh resources, bringing in, you know, just people talking and things like that. So I definitely influenced I I look up to that. I admire that. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah. I think it's cool. Uh I don't know how you guys do it all, but I think it's really cool. It's all God.
Vicky AlbiousOr I thought you meant like light, like No, they're a light, they're an influence. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh wait, no, he means like the light, like two other marriages.
Scottie AlbiousI think uh yeah, influence over other marriages, I think it's really cool, and I admire that. Well, thank you. Because you guys care.
Everyday Preferences And Personalities
Daniel MooreYeah, it's uh definitely a God calling because it's not out of our own flesh that we could ever pull this off. I will say that, but God's blessed us. I will say that. Uh so we'll go into some rapid fire here. So Scottie and Vicky, coffee date or dinner date?
Michelle MooreDinner date.
Daniel MooreDinner date, Michelle.
Michelle MooreCoffee.
Daniel MooreYou know, I'm torn because I do I like coffee dates, and but I like eating too.
Vicky AlbiousSo our coffee date's always on the way to our dinner date. So I guess that's we gotta we can do both.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, that's yeah, that's and when we were dating, that was our dates was coffee. We would just have coffee on the front porch and just sit and talk.
Vicky AlbiousYeah.
Daniel MooreYeah, that's it's a lot of fun. And you know, nowadays you've got the coffee shops you can just go sit. Uh-huh.
Michelle MooreI like our own coffee shop.
Daniel MooreYeah, we've got one downstairs too.
Michelle MooreLiterally on Saturdays. That's the first time. That's probably the best, I think. Yeah. We eat our breakfast and then we get a cup of coffee and we sit down and talk.
Daniel MooreI love that. Yeah. That's so cool. Texting or talking on the phone. Talking about.
Michelle MooreYep. Texting.
Scottie AlbiousTexting.
Michelle MooreWe ain't got time to talk.
Scottie AlbiousI know what she likes is when like throughout the day at work, I'll call just randomly, just hey, how you doing? How you feeling? Are you feeling better? And she likes the calls and text. Text, I can just be like, hey, what's up? You know. But I get to, you know, talk to her just for a brief moment throughout the day. Yeah. Okay. Planner or go with the flow?
Vicky AlbiousI think we're a little above.
Scottie AlbiousDepends. I think if it's like like important stuff, like, you know, this, we want to plan it because we don't want to miss it. Other things that just, you know, just go with the flow.
Michelle MooreYeah.
Scottie AlbiousHow about you, Michelle?
Michelle MooreI used to be a planner, but now I think it's a little it's more go with the flow, but I'm a go with the flow. Uh it I've gotten planning takes a lot of work.
Daniel MooreIt does.
Scottie AlbiousIt's exhausting. And a lot of help.
Michelle MooreAt least know what's going on.
Scottie AlbiousRight. But life happens, you're like, uh, we'll just schedule.
Daniel MooreEvery time I think of an idea, I think that's stupid. I don't know. Why do you suggest that? So just like leave it to her. Clean house or quality time? Quality time.
Vicky AlbiousI'm gonna need some clean house too, though. I love quality time. But I want my house clean. Quality time.
Daniel MooreYeah, probably a little both on that one. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousEarly bird or night owl.
Vicky AlbiousNight owl.
Scottie AlbiousDepends. Like I go to work early, so I've got to, but I do love my if I didn't have to work, I do love my late nights just watching TV. The kids are in bed. Me and her. I can give them a computer at the same time too, so it's like, you know, multitasking, just downtime. Yeah. Night owl.
Michelle MooreI am neither. I do not, I am not an early riser, and I do not like staying up.
Scottie AlbiousOh.
Michelle MooreMy bedtime is usually 9 30, 10 o'clock, and I sleep in till about 7 38. I would like to sleep in till 7.38. Um, but I'm forced to get up to go to work after he tries waking me up about what, three or ten times. I am not a morning person at all.
Daniel MooreYeah, I usually I get up at 5 30 Monday through Friday. Yeah. And then I can stay up late sometimes. Sometimes I get pretty tired, so and I'll fall asleep doing it. I don't mind being a night owl if I can stay up, but I'm not that so much as I used to be. But I definitely I do get up early every morning. That's when I do a lot of my studying and all that stuff. That's cool. Romantic gestures or practical help? Practical help. You like it when I help you.
Vicky AlbiousI do. But I would enjoy more romantic gestures as well.
Daniel MooreYeah. This is a revealing moment. I know.
Michelle MooreYes. Dr. Daniel.
Daniel MooreDr. Daniel. Dr.
Michelle MooreDaniel.
Daniel MooreWhat about you guys? Uh it's steamy, so I guess it's romantic gestures is what I'm getting here. 24-7.
Michelle MooreThat's right. I would have to go practical help.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Michelle MooreI like when he helps me if he's in the kitchen or just whatever.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Michelle MooreAlthough I have unmet expectations when I have that practical help. So I have to be careful because I'm like, oh, I need you to do this. And he, oh, wait, wait, I'm not doing that right.
Daniel MooreSo it's my version. That's right. Music in the car or quiet drive?
Vicky AlbiousI need quiet.
Scottie AlbiousQuiet drives. Yeah. She likes to sit and think, and I like to do it.
Vicky AlbiousI know it's weird because I'm a worship leader, but like I I that's where I do a lot of thinking and praying. And if I am listening to something, it's like distracting. Jensen Franklin, um, like I'll listen to their worship set and then him preaching, but it's not very like I need quiet. I don't know.
Scottie AlbiousAnd for me, I like to drive and think of like slogans or business ideas or logos or you know, business ventures and things like that. Where she's like, What are you thinking of? I could be thinking random thing. I'm like, I think we should open something up like this here, you know, because no one else has just random. Yes, all the time. Yeah. The big dreamer.
Daniel MooreYeah, definitely. Yeah.
Michelle MooreI'm definitely a quiet drive.
Daniel MooreThe sound music in the car.
Michelle MooreIt drives him nuts.
Daniel MooreI've got to have a driving and it'll be quiet, and he's over there turn your radio on.
Michelle MooreAnd I'm like, I don't really need the the radio. Yeah. Like, I need quiet, but he does, and I just let him do him.
Vicky AlbiousOur boys do. Our boys are, Mom, can we turn on our songs? I'm like, so I'll like turn it to the back of the car where I can like barely hear it.
Daniel MooreFingernails on the skirt, chalkboard. Homebody night or out on the town. Out on the town.
Vicky AlbiousI'm a homebody. Oh. I can see that. But I'll I'll do a out on town once in a while, but I'm a homebody.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Vicky AlbiousHomebody.
Scottie AlbiousEarly in our marriage, I had to learn to stay home because that's where she gets a lot of rest. I love being homebody. Yeah.
Vicky AlbiousAnd I was like, I can't do this. Yeah, she likes to bring this down.
Daniel MooreYeah, we're both homebody. I mean, we like to go out occasionally and do stuff and we go out with friends and stuff like that. But if there's none of that going on, we're just perfectly fine hanging out at the end. Yeah. So who's most likely to lose their keys?
Vicky AlbiousThat's me. He always puts them on the hook. Agreement there.
Scottie AlbiousYeah. Because I'll say stuff like, Maybe where are the keys? She's like, Oh, they're my purse. I'm like, Oh, I couldn't find it because they're not on the hook. You know, things like that.
Vicky AlbiousBut once in a while he'll have them in his pocket, but they're usually on the hook when he has them.
Scottie AlbiousWhat about you? He's like, Where are they now?
Michelle MooreI am horrible with my keys in my phone. Oh, really? I lose my phone, what, every day?
Daniel MooreYeah.
Michelle MooreDo you not at least have your I do, but I don't I use it a multiple times. I take my watch off when I get home. Yeah. But I'll lose my phone.
Daniel MooreI've got her unfind my phone so that way I'm located every once in a while.
Michelle MooreI don't want to, I'm not. I mean, I'll be glued to my phone occasionally, but not I after I come home from work, I want nothing to do with it. And it's so funny because I literally, if my keys weren't stuck in my purse all the time, I'd lose my keys all the time. I literally would.
Daniel MooreYeah. Yep. So let me make sure they stay in her purse.
Michelle MooreYeah.
Daniel MoorePretty much. Who's more emotional?
Vicky AlbiousOh, you know, that's probably me.
Scottie AlbiousYes, definitely her. I'm trying to be better at it because I want to, you know, learn how to resist.
Daniel MooreYou know what's funny though is I see emotion in both of you.
Michelle MooreYeah, oh yeah. Actually, that's what I was gonna read.
Daniel MooreYou're you're way more emotional than I am, and I think it's pretty awesome because I I it's not that's not a trait that I mean I yeah, it's not a trait that I have necessarily. I can't even say that I have a little bit of it because I don't. I mean it it takes quite a bit for me to get real emotional. I mean I I uh I feel very deeply about things. Yeah but to show I guess to show the uh the emotions inside, but to show it, yeah, um, that's not usually a personality trait for me.
Michelle MooreHe's Scottie's grown in that. Oh my god. I would definitely say that. I just want to do it.
Scottie AlbiousIt was used to be like, no, that's dumb. That's you know, yeah, you know, but now it's like I don't care, you know. I'll show my emotions. She loves it.
Vicky AlbiousI do.
Worship, Podcasts, And Spiritual Rhythms
Scottie AlbiousSo it shows vulnerability. It shows how it really means something to you, you know. Right. I can see that side of it. And that's why I said, you know, when it comes to vulnerability, it's not weakness, it's wisdom. Yeah. You know, she wants to see that, she wants to hear it. So anyway. Michelle. Very emotional.
Michelle MooreWho's more emotional? I probably I don't think I'm as emotional as what I used to be. And I would say that you do have some emotional parts to you because I've watched you cry at church.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, that's a good one.
Michelle MooreBecause we'll be praise and worshiping, and I'll see tears.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Michelle MooreAnd when people are talking about testimonies and stuff like that, I see tears.
Daniel MooreThat stuff gets me. That's good. That's awesome.
Michelle MooreI know there's emotion in there. Yeah.
Daniel MooreThat's awesome. Because our church, they'll do videos of testimonies and stuff. Oh, they talk to them and they man, some of them things just but even a church we used to go to that you know, you guys that we went to before, uh Teen Challenge guys, they would come over there.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Daniel MooreMan, listen to some of them guys with their testimonies and stuff. It just breaks you. I mean, it's like, man, they went through a lot, you know. Right. And some of them just they do, they really get to you.
Michelle MooreAnd you cried when our granddaughter was born, Sarah. Oh yeah.
Daniel MooreThat's awesome. Yeah. That's cool, man. Motions. I do have one little emotional bone in my body.
Michelle MooreYou do?
Daniel MooreNice.
Vicky AlbiousYou do.
Daniel MooreWho apologizes first? Me.
Vicky AlbiousUh no. She's like, nope. Not happening.
Scottie AlbiousIt takes me a minute because I want to process and I want to I want when I used to used to be me. I'm sorry. Okay, let's move on. Yeah. When I say I'm sorry now, I want to mean it and I want to process it. And this is why I meant I'm sorry.
Vicky AlbiousYeah. It's harder for me to say sorry now first, because he this is where he throws in the joking stuff, and he'll be like, it's okay, I'm used to it. And I'm like, shut up. Like, never mind, I'm not sorry.
Scottie AlbiousI forgot about it because I'm way past that. So she's like, that happened the other day. Oh my god. That's funny.
Daniel MooreAbout uh I would say both of us.
Michelle MooreYeah. I mean, in all reality, I mean, we don't neither one of us really when we apologize, we just, oh, we're sorry and move on. Yeah. Yeah, we do much I would say we're equal in that part.
Daniel MooreYeah, we do much better at taking ownership of stuff that we do. That's it's very that's a very good trait to have in a marriage to be able to apologize. That that makes uh the the marriage go a little smoother. Yeah, you know. Right. So uh let's see here. Who's more who's more spontaneous? Me. You? I always want to do crazy things.
Vicky AlbiousYeah, for sure.
Daniel MooreJust random. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Vicky AlbiousIt'd be me.
Daniel MooreYeah, Michelle's more spontaneous.
Vicky AlbiousWell, like he'll he'll do it with restaurants too. And I'm like, okay. And then I get there, I'm like, what do I order? You know. Oh, that's true.
Scottie AlbiousBecause like when we go to a restaurant, any restaurant, she's like, What are you getting? I was like, I don't know. I've never down a three. When they get here, I'll pick last second.
Vicky AlbiousHe does it every time. Whereas I'm like, this is what I'm getting. Same. Yep.
Scottie AlbiousAnd she's like, uh, we've never had that before. I was like, that's the whole fun part. We're never we don't know what we're getting.
Vicky AlbiousI'm I'm like searching the menu on our way there. Because I'm like, okay, what does it have in it?
Scottie AlbiousI like to ask, what's good here? You know, surprise me. Do you want this? I don't know.
Prayer Styles And Listening For God
Michelle MooreWho was it that Jake said about that? He goes, Do you really think they're gonna be honest with you? Yeah, because they work there, they don't like any of their food. He's like, they're gonna tell you what they don't like. And I'm like, I never really thought of it about that before. I'm like, because I do. I'll ask them, what do you like? And you know, some of them will be like, Well, I've never tried this, and it's like, is it because it's horrible or is it, you know?
Scottie AlbiousWell, if I if I narrow down a two, I'd be like, So if you had to pick between these two, which one and why? And they'll they'll tell me why or something. I was like, okay, let's roll with it, you know.
Daniel MooreLet's try it. Yeah, and I'm I'm spontaneous with trying new things because we'll go to new uh like at restaurants. Yeah, um, I like to go to out of the ordinary restaurants that we typically don't get to go to and try something on the menu I've never had. Yeah, I I do like enjoy doing that because you never know if you ever get that opportunity again.
Michelle MooreHey, I tried to I tried to get on a bike trail with my bike.
Daniel MooreAnd look what happened. Oh that I was spontaneous.
Michelle MooreI'm like, let's go for the off-road on the side.
Scottie AlbiousI had to call 911. It was very bad. That's a funny story though.
Michelle MooreYeah. Who takes longer to get ready? Oh, that'd be me. Hey, I have longer hair.
Vicky AlbiousI have like four times the hair you know is just getting there.
Scottie AlbiousNo, I don't know. That's a little much. It's easy just to put a hat on.
Vicky AlbiousWell, uh all for for church, you just like throw stuff in there and it goes all curly cute.
Scottie AlbiousYeah. Curly cute. Curly many cute.
Daniel MooreYeah. Oh, this is natural. Oh, that's funny. How about you, Michelle?
Michelle MooreOh, we know who takes longer to get ready because I always make you late.
Daniel MooreSo that answers that question.
Michelle MooreThere's no bitterness than that.
Daniel MooreUh worship music or sermon podcast.
Scottie Albious100% podcast for me. Think about it. I love to hear different perspectives, to learn podcasts, even if it's I'm not a big podcaster.
Vicky AlbiousI love worship, but like I love sermons more than pod. You know what I mean? Like they're a difference there a little bit.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Vicky AlbiousLike Jensen Franklin all day. Give it to me.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Michelle MooreI'm worship music all the way.
Daniel MooreAnd I'm okay. And I'm definitely sermon podcast. For sure.
Michelle MooreYep.
Daniel MooreMy my phone's literally connected to my radio, and every time I get in it, it's going right on my podcast right to the next one.
Scottie AlbiousIt's all week long.
Finish The Sentence: What Love Taught Us
Daniel MooreAnd then I do the repeat all the way around again of all the new episodes. Uh, what about encouragement or accountability? I think for me, encouragement.
Scottie AlbiousBecause I like to encourage He's the encourager.
Vicky AlbiousAnd I'm what was the other one?
Scottie AlbiousAccountability. Yeah, you're the accountability.
Vicky AlbiousI am.
Scottie AlbiousYou didn't do this like you said you would. No, I'm kidding. She's yeah, she's no, I'm like, she was like, honor what you said, or you're a man of your word. So and I appreciate that, you know. It's not like she's you know lording over me, but she's keeping me accountable. I'm like, okay, yeah, you're right. If I said I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it.
Daniel MooreYeah, that's good. What about you, Michelle?
Michelle MooreEncouragement.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, yeah. You're good at encouragement. I see you encourage Dan, myself, even Vicky, and you do a really good job. Vicki's always in tears. I'm like, okay, Michelle, you did your job. You did a great job.
Daniel MooreI think I'm probably encouragement. Yeah. Probably. Don't you think?
Michelle MooreYeah.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Michelle MooreI would agree a hundred percent. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousI think you're a little both, both though. Could be. Yeah. I've seen you hold people accountable. Yeah. We used to teach young adults. I remember you. Done that a time or two. And you had sons back in the day, so you know, yeah. Young kids under the roof. So the memories are coming back. Yeah, I remember that.
Michelle MooreHis eyes are twitching over because he has no more he's rubbing his head with no hair up there.
Daniel MooreThe stress level's rising under my chair here. Oh, that's awesome.
Scottie AlbiousUh Bible stuff. I love Bible study. Because I love to study with like-minded believers and get perspective. Yeah. And get to understand someone's idea. A little both. Yeah.
Daniel MooreAbout you, Michelle.
Scottie AlbiousI love my devotional time. Devotional.
Daniel MooreI'm a Bible study guy. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousI love my devotional time.
Daniel MooreYeah. That's good. I've I tried try devotionals and stuff, but I just never really seem to stick with them. For some reason, I just I don't know. I did it for a little bit, and then it seems like all of a sudden like, well, I didn't do that for the whole last week.
Scottie AlbiousWell, I feel like devotionals are awesome, but it's like, okay, I learned that. Now I need to share that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Vicky AlbiousTo me, I've gotten more into like reading books. You know, like um I did a lot of that fasting book and then our holy spirit by drama fear. And like, I don't know. And so it's kind of a mix of like, because you get into the word, but yet it's a I don't know.
Scottie AlbiousShe also teaches really good from the books, too. So thanks. Aww.
Daniel MooreYeah, that's I I'm kind of more of a Bible study and book reader, that kind of thing at this point in my life. What about quiet prayer or out loud prayer?
Vicky AlbiousI'm an out loud prayer.
Scottie AlbiousI like quiet. I I think because I think of a lot of my long times, and I'll give you an example. There is a friend of mine that when he comes home from work and he's stressed, he doesn't want to give the family the leftovers. So on the way from home work, he spends time with the Lord. So same thing. On the way from home from work, it's me and him, and I'm like, help me, Lord, help me, Holy Spirit, guide me. Yeah. And I try my best, you know, to not show the leftovers that my kids are getting, my wife's getting, but try to bring, you know, a husband as a father.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Scottie AlbiousMichelle? Michelle?
Michelle MooreI'm a quiet prayer. Yeah.
Daniel MooreI'm probably more that also. I do some out loud prayer also. I think out loud's needed. A little mixture. Oh, I would agree. I do, but during the day, you know, I pray a lot throughout the day, and you know, a lot of that's quiet prayer.
Hard Lessons: Pride, Forgiveness, Communication
Scottie AlbiousAnd I think I like the quiet because you get to hear back. Mm-hmm. When, you know, but if I'm praying out loud, I hear, you know, it's more of like declarations. God, I'm praying over my family, my wife, my marriage, our finances. Yeah. You know, and I'm I'm thinking all these in my head and just praying over or with praying with somebody over their life. But when I'm that quiet one-on-one, like, God, I want to hear you. Help me. Yeah. That's good.
Daniel MooreSo we'll skip to finish the sentence here. So marriage taught me that love is finish that sentence.
Scottie AlbiousChrist-like. Christ-like. That's good. I have to be because I fall have to follow him. Show me, teach me. Holy Spirit, help me. That's good. Thanks.
Vicky AlbiousCan it be more than one word? I know. I'm like trying to think of one word. Marriage has taught me that love is awesome. A little tough. And definitely needs Jesus at the center to make it work.
Scottie AlbiousAnd I say Christ-like too because of what I've received. She showed me a lot of compassion over the times I've been me, you know? I'm like, wow, thanks, dear. Yeah. And grace. What about you, Michelle?
Michelle MooreActually, he just said mine. Mary just taught me that love is a lot of, I mean, you have to be have a lot of grace. And you do have to be Christ-like. Oh, and we apologize. That was my dog yawning. That was Jose. Yeah. The one that snores.
Daniel MooreWhat about you? Mary just taught me that love is unconditional too. I think. Yeah.
Michelle MooreThat's very unconditional.
Daniel MooreLooking at Michelle through Christ's eyes and you know, letting God just showing me her through him. Uh, I think I look at our our marriage and the love that we have because of everything that we've been through. Right. I look at it as a testimony. Oh yeah. Uh because you know, we're where we are because God brought us to this point. It was not by our own power, but some of the stuff that we've been through. And so I, you know, I've learned some tough lessons for sure. And I'm thankful that God's brought me down that path.
Scottie AlbiousIt's so cool though, because you guys use those testimonies as key to help heal others, you know. Yeah.
Daniel MooreWell, God doesn't waste our our pain and I don't think we should either. I just I kinda I really look at it that way. What's the hardest thing that you guys have learned together?
Scottie AlbiousGo ahead.
Vicky AlbiousNo, go ahead.
Scottie AlbiousListen.
Vicky AlbiousTo listen.
Scottie AlbiousAnd to be vulnerable. Yeah. To share my heart and feelings when I don't want to. That's probably my hardest struggles.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Vicky AlbiousI'd say kind of to give the grace and you know, with some of the tough things. Especially I'd say earlier in, you know, oh, just stop being so quick to you meant this or you did that, you know, and be like, okay, there's a reason. Like, let's chill out on that. Like, you know.
Daniel MooreYeah. That's a big one.
Michelle MooreUm the hardest thing that we've learned together is um I would have to say communication.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Michelle MooreAnd um forgiveness.
Daniel MooreYeah. Yeah.
Michelle MooreThat it requires ahead of one all the time.
Daniel MooreThat's huge. Yeah. I think one of mine is forgiveness as well, but another one is to my pride.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Parenting Tensions And Growth
Daniel MooreGetting rid of the the pride that I have because when I came into our marriage, there was definitely a lot of pride there. And because I was not willing to humble myself like I should have, uh, it drug us to a spot where we didn't really need to be. And so God's shown me throughout our marriage with the different things that's happened in the restoration process that we've gone through, how important it is to make sure that that pride does not become an idol in my life.
Scottie AlbiousWell, I think even for us, as we're walking with you guys and watching you and watching you guys forgive each other, I was like, that is powerful. Wow. You know? Yeah. Really cool.
Daniel MooreThat's why, you know, a lot of times when we work with our couples that we work with and stuff, and the ones that we, you know, that come up to us to talk to us about things, it's like there's really not a whole lot that you can do to each other that would cause you not to ever want to forgive. Like Michelle and I've been through some things that, you know, both of us had every right in the world to never forgive each other. Right. But God grew that forgiveness inside of us.
Scottie AlbiousSo thankful for the world.
Daniel MooreYeah, and we were able to do that. So we can you can forgive anybody uh with the help of God. You can forgive anybody for anything.
Scottie AlbiousBut it's so powerful because people watching you guys are like, ow, you know, the Lord. Yeah.
Daniel MooreIt's only God, that's for sure.
Vicky AlbiousI feel most loved when you sit down and communicate when we just sit and talk about stuff, anything.
Scottie AlbiousYeah. Oh, I was gonna say scratch my feet, but that was a video.
Vicky AlbiousHey, it's okay.
Scottie AlbiousNo, I feel most loved when we're one-on-one and we get to watch like l recently, like I've been trying to watch whatever she wants to watch, murder mysteries. And I feel loved because she wants to share that with me. Yeah, you know what I mean? And it could be Sports Center, it could be a football game, but it's not. And I know she would give that up any minute just to watch a game with me. But because you know, we're just two by ourselves watching a show late at night, yeah. Just us two. So it's good. Michelle.
Michelle MooreI feel most loved when you give me intentional time. I love our intentional time that we get.
Daniel MooreYeah. And I think for my side of it, the fact that you want to spend time with me, uh, because I think that the biggest betrayal in a marriage is when a spouse tries to do anything they can to not be at home or to not be around their spouse, to not do things together. Michelle and I literally, with our relationship that we have, there's not anything that we ever do that we would want to do apart. That's good. Now we we have things we do with our friends occasionally, just separate, you know, but it doesn't happen very often. Uh we would actually just prefer to anything we do, whether if it's going out with another couple or going somewhere, sitting in the living room, whatever it is, we want to do that together. Right. And I know her having that interest, I think uh that really lets me know how she feels about me. I love that. So uh one habit of yours that I've learned to love.
Vicky AlbiousOoh, his rice habit. He eats rice with everything. No, it used to when we first got married, I was like, oh my gosh, why so much rice all the time? Rice. That's all I can think of.
Scottie AlbiousOne thing that I've loved about you, um almost like what you said, like um, I love it when she like I've learned to love like it was weird for me because like she would dote on me, like, you know, rub my my back or my arms or you know, and things like that. I thought it was weird. Remember that? And you're like, you're not used to having anybody dote on you. I was like, no, not really. And and like now it's like, you know, because at first when we were dating, she's like, I'm gonna rub your hand. I was like, what? That's so weird. And I'd pass out in like five minutes.
Vicky AlbiousNo, it wouldn't ru oh yeah. Like, so now it's like because I used to do that in hair school.
Scottie AlbiousWell, I like did hand massage, yeah.
Vicky AlbiousYeah.
Scottie AlbiousBut yeah, that's one thing I've loved about her is that she just she's always willing to dote and willing to serve.
Vicky AlbiousIs that a habit though? Well, I guess. Oh yeah.
Daniel MooreI mean, yeah, one one yeah. I mean it could be.
Michelle MooreYeah.
Daniel MooreUh what about you, Michelle?
Michelle MooreUm don't laugh at this one. One habit of yours I learned to love is you're always right.
Daniel MooreOh like literally or think of him.
Michelle MooreNo, seriously, most of the time he is a very deep thinker.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Michelle MooreAnd so literally most of the time, he's a it and it's a habit, like he literally he'll say something, and I'm like, hmm. And then it's like comes to fruition or something. And or I just it's a habit that I'm like, you're not always right. You know, at the beginning I was just like, no.
Scottie AlbiousBut now it's like he comes in and he'll say stuff, and it's like, oh well, you know, that white personality, you guys are full of wisdom, you know. And I've seen that with other white personality people too. Her dad was one of them. But it's like when you guys say stuff, it's like steep and it means something. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, hold on, shh, you know, they're saying something. You've always done that, even like when we all used to teach young adults together, it's always been really cool. I'm like, man, how'd you see that? That's awesome.
Daniel MooreYeah. It and I I don't think I'm doing that when I'm, you know, doing it. Oh, right, right. But whenever I I do have to, I do process things, and I've always been that way. And I it I think whenever I'm able to do, I can't make just real quick decisions as well. I can do it if I have to and I'm put on the spot, but I would prefer to have some time to think about it so that I can think through the whole thing and then okay, this is really the way this needs to go and come back with that answer.
Michelle MooreBut I will say your habit, you know when you meet someone else just like you that you have to take a step back and let them be right.
Daniel MooreOkay.
Michelle MooreAm I right?
Daniel MooreYeah. I agree.
Michelle MooreBecause you know there's not gonna be you want the final say, and if it's just gonna get into a so your habit is you do recognize that you're always right until you meet someone with the same personality.
Daniel MooreBecause I have an escalating personality, if we get in a conflict, I know that if I'm gonna get into conflict, if that person's like me, yeah, I know better than to get into that conflict in the first place because it's not gonna end well.
Scottie AlbiousSee, that's where he's he's wise, you know what I mean?
Michelle MooreYeah, I no, he's he's learned it. I know.
Daniel MooreYeah, I'm I'm very well aware of yeah.
Scottie AlbiousWhat about your habit for Michelle?
Daniel MooreUh probably just her getting up late. You know, it's about the only habit I can think of.
Scottie AlbiousOh, geez.
Michelle MooreIt really is bad. I I and you know, I didn't used to be that way until I had all my surgeries. And it's like literally.
Feeling Loved And Learning Each Other’s Habits
Daniel MooreYou know, I saw a movie one time where a prince went in and kissed the princess and she woke up. And I try that, but it doesn't work. You know, three or four times, and it's like she'll roll over and say something, and I'll go back in the bathroom to finish getting ready, and she'll go back, she's and they're down to sleep again. I'm like, it worked in the movies. Like, what's the deal?
Scottie AlbiousUh gives me a little bit more time to love on her again. I love it because Mickey's such a light sleeper. Like before I leave to work, I'll like grab her arm or her feet or something. I'm like, you'll she'll jump up like I'm attacking her.
Vicky AlbiousHe'll know when I'm like dead, dead, because he'll rub my feet and don't move. Oh, normally that'll kind of like wake me up a little bit.
Scottie AlbiousAll right, she's out. Yep. Yeah. Catch up on that later. Yeah.
Vicky AlbiousBut I'm up to like two in the morning a lot of time. Like, I'm such a night owl.
Scottie AlbiousWell, you've got that downtime too, because you're with the boys all day. All day long. Yeah. Yeah. So I would need that too.
Daniel MooreSo one last question. Oh, here we go. One thing we'll probably always disagree on.
Michelle MooreWow.
Vicky AlbiousHow to build things. His way is always right no matter what. We can't like it's hard to do stuff.
Daniel MooreLike furniture in a box and stuff like that. Or just yeah.
Vicky AlbiousAnything. It's very that you know, it's crazy because I used to build stuff with my dad all the time or help him on the car or this or that. Like that is just one area that I've learned to back up and let him do his thing. Yeah. You know, and and that's something that to this day I like all get upset about sometimes. And I'm like, why can't we just work together in this? But it's just one of those things you learn, like, no, I've got a lot of how much space and you do your thing.
Scottie AlbiousYeah. Well, and there's that 50-50. I've got to learn how to work with somebody too. I, you know, uh I I I can't always be a control freak, you know, at work and things like that. Even with my family, you know, my wife, I've got to be like, okay, you know, well, I've I've got to figure out how to work. So I I appreciate her telling me that, you know.
Daniel MooreYeah.
Scottie AlbiousUm, one thing I would always disagree with you on is uh I still think cheddar's is always overrated. So she's always like, let's go to cheddar. Broccoli cheese casserole, though. But there's Indian food. It's at the gas station. I'm telling you, that's always really good. I've heard that. I'm telling you. I haven't tried it yet.
Michelle MooreYeah, the keys over here.
Daniel MooreWell, Michelle and I are probably gonna be 100% disag in an agreement on this one. Oh.
Michelle MooreYou go first.
Daniel MooreThe kids.
Michelle MooreActually, that's what I was gonna say. That's the only thing we disagree on.
Scottie AlbiousWow. Has that been like younger into your earlier marriage, has that always been like a thing, like a bad thing? You know what I mean? Or do you guys cope with that in a healthy way? Like, okay, I disagree with you. Let's figure out you know what I'm saying.
Michelle MooreBack then, we did not, yeah, it was not healthy.
Daniel MooreI grew up with very strict environment. And I've carried that into our relationship, not realizing that was not a good thing to do. And so I then tried to push my agenda so we would clash because her being the mother and you know, the the more emotional part of the relationship. Say more compassionate, compassionate, not emotional. I guess compassionate is a better word. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Daniel MooreUh it just didn't jive very well. Right, right. Because I'm just like, it's black or white. You know, you do this, you're getting this for it, and that's the end of the story, because I'm the dad and you're the kid, and that's just the way it's gonna be, because that's how I grew up.
Scottie AlbiousRight.
Daniel MooreAnd so we did, we struggled with that all through them growing up. And then even now, as they're older, we we do much better now because uh there are times that we still clash, but I will back off quicker than what I used to would back off.
Michelle MooreAnd that comes down from generally helping our children.
Daniel MooreYeah, yeah.
Michelle MooreLike it's it's more um not necessarily um we're gonna disagree on if I wanna do something for them.
Scottie AlbiousSure.
Michelle MooreYou know, if I wanna give them money or if I wanna like, you know, just different things like that. Um or babysit or whatever. But I mean, we don't really and we do it healthy. I mean, I don't do anything without asking him first.
Scottie AlbiousOh, sure. All right.
Michelle MooreAnd if he's like, I don't know, I wait until he is ready. And if he disagrees, I still am gonna do it. I just give him the option. I'm just kidding, huh?
Daniel MooreThat's very that's very true.
Michelle MooreNot all the time. Not all time. My ticket is supposed to be bought and it's not bought. I'm not going next weekend.
Daniel MooreSo yeah, it's that's something that I've had to grow in a lot. But I think we do handle it much better. Absolutely.
What We’ll Always Disagree On
Scottie AlbiousUh it's just that's a hard thing to break because I asked these questions because we're behind you. And you remember we were dealing with our blending family, and your guys' kids were teenagers, and we weren't there yet, and we're like, how are you guys doing this? Because, you know, we're learning, you know, we're trying to figure this out as well. And you know, when it comes to disagreement, are we gonna disagree on the kids? Is she gonna be more nurturing? We're all gonna be black and white, like, nope, don't help them.
Vicky AlbiousThat's on that's honestly been a space that I've had to pray a lot about because we discipline a lot different. And I found where I would be so frustrated with the kids or one of them, you know, whatever. And um I got to where I wouldn't tell him the full, you know, because and we talked about this probably a good three, four years ago of like I told him I was like, I feel like I can't tell you because then you overreact and he'll just like, you know, it's too much. And I'm like, I need you to rein that in and like calm, you know, and um yeah, and saga.
Scottie AlbiousI think because last episode we were talking about unmet expectations in a spouse. Same thing with the kids. Yeah. We expect them to be you're gonna be like this, you're gonna be good, you're not gonna talk, you're not gonna say crazy things, you know. If you do, you're gonna be in trouble. Yeah. Where in my mind I'm thinking, that's the line. There's no, yeah, there's no second chances. Yeah. That was him. You just blew it, that's it. Get out, you go to your room.
Vicky AlbiousAnd it's like there there has to be this balance, you know. And I felt I got to a place where, and I had to tell him this. I'm like, I feel alone parenting our kids because I'm home with them, you know, and I, you know, I discipline them, but I need your backing without overdoing it. And and I was like, I it's making me feel alone in this because I can't tell it's too much.
Michelle MooreYou you go too much.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, that'd be another episode. Yeah, it would.
Michelle MooreWell, I mean, if you really think about it, I mean, he wouldn't have known that had you not communicate.
Scottie AlbiousWell, after she said that, that's when I started praying after work. God, help me be the dad and the and the husband that I need to be. Don't let my family see the leftovers. I'm tired, but give me the strength.
Michelle MooreYeah, yeah. And I mean, Dan's went back and apologized to our children. Yeah. Like, you know, because you know, he he's recognized it. Oh, I have too.
Scottie AlbiousWe have to as parents.
Michelle MooreThere is times when we're doing a podcast, the Holy Spirit would be like, You did that to your children. And it's like, oh man. And I'll text, I'll text Brooke, and I'm like, I'm so sorry. She's like, You've already apologized for that. And I'm like, No, I need to apologize again. And she's like, There's no need, that's already in the past. I'm like, but it's healing for me because you know, the Holy Spirit put it on me. But I mean, that's the way I mean to see him apologize to her adult boys and you know, Nim, it it meant so much to me. Right, right, you know, and I know I had to heal his heart too, because when you're not parenting in a godly way, yeah, those relationships are gonna be strained.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, yeah, especially blended.
Michelle MooreYeah. Because they can go to one side and do whatever they want, and then they come home and get disciplined. Yeah.
Scottie AlbiousRight.
Michelle MooreIt's it's gonna be that way.
Scottie AlbiousI read a thing a while back, and this is why I gotta remember too. As our kids are growing, so is our parenthood. Yes. We don't know how to parent that's right, 100% perfect. We're figuring this out as our kids are growing too.
Michelle MooreAbsolutely.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, it's always a learning process.
Michelle MooreWell, we always say we told our kids there was no manual. Right. I mean, you do have the word of God, but it's different context, too. I mean, you know, you have to go to the Lord and you know, pray about some things. But I mean, I know there was times that he was super frustrated. And I mean, Jeremiah, I love him to death, but I mean, that boy kind of like Titus, you know, it's like, would you listen for the love? And it's like everything was like 10 times worse than what it had to be because that's the way he just did everything.
Scottie AlbiousYeah, and I can see it.
Vicky AlbiousFrustration, but as a mother, you're more nurturing, and it's like, you know, okay, you know, and I think I've always heard like God has put these things in your child, and it's learning how to guide them instead of like break it out of them or whatever. You know, it's like okay, they're gonna grow up to be a really strong leader. How do I help this instead of be like, stop acting like that, you know, like yeah, stuff?
Daniel MooreYeah, the personalities that they have God gave it to them. I think as parents, you know, God gives us the grace and the the tools to try to navigate that with the child to uh so that they can show those personality traits that they have to the best that they can, but in a good way.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Daniel MooreAnd it's up to us to try to help them navigate through all of that. And sometimes that's difficult.
Vicky AlbiousYeah.
Scottie AlbiousBut God's there to help us. That's right. And you know what I caught myself too when we're talking about communication with your kids? You know, we can talk about our spouse, but our kids Israel and I get along because we talk about sports. Titus wants to talk about Spider-Man and Zelda. Yeah.
Vicky AlbiousOr just off the wall stuff for Jeremiah. He just goes on.
Scottie AlbiousI've had to learn what he loves. I'll be like, hey buddy, tell me about more about Spider-Man. Okay, this one time this to beat this level, and I'm like, okay, okay. But he enjoys that. Does that make sense? So I'd rather him learn how to communicate me with me now when he's eight for when he's in his thirties. That's right. And it'll come to me instead of be like, Dad's not gonna listen to me, he don't care. Yeah.
Daniel MooreSo yeah, and it is harder when they get older.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
Daniel MooreUm, a lot of times, I think, because they become an adult and if they carry that stuff into adulthood, yeah. Uh it's a lot harder to break that at that point because that resentment and stuff has been there for so long, they have no respect for you as a parent, I think, in a lot of cases, and so we have to try to earn that back. Yeah. And it makes it very difficult.
Scottie AlbiousYeah.
A Simple Challenge To Reconnect
Daniel MooreSo that's good. Yeah, this episode went all over the place. That was fun though.
Michelle MooreDr. Dan didn't do very well. I tried. We'll see how many stars we get out of this one. That was that was the slowest rapid fire.
Scottie AlbiousWe had conversations.
Daniel MooreOh, that was fun though. Yeah, I think you know, the whole purpose of this episode this week was, you know, we give you all a challenge that are listening. Uh, if you haven't sat down in a while and just had some fun with your spouse, uh, this is a good way that you can do that. Just come up with some rapid fires and finish the question, uh, you know, questions, finish them and just just have fun with it. And uh a lot of you might even learn something about your spouse that you didn't even know.
Michelle MooreLike being late, making them always late.
Daniel MooreThat's right.
Michelle MooreNot better. Uh no, no, not at all.
Closing Prayer And Next Series Tease
Daniel MooreUh but yeah, this is this has been a lot of fun. Uh Scottie and Vicky, thank you guys so much for being here again. Of course, we'll we'll get we'll do it again eventually. Oh, yeah. Uh, we love having you guys on here. It's always a blast. And so uh we're gonna go ahead and call it a wrap on this one for this week. Uh next week, Lord willing, we will probably be starting our new series, and we're planning on going through my book, Marriage is a Mission, is what we're gonna start into. So we're gonna try to get that started next week. So we're gonna go ahead and call it for this week, though. Um, as we wrap up today, our hope is that this episode reminded you that marriage doesn't have to be complicated to be meaningful. Sometimes the simplest moments, the quick answers, the laughter, the honest words, they're the ones that strengthen our connection the most. Marriage is built in the everyday choices like choosing grace, choosing joy, choosing to keep learning one another. And when we invite God into these moments, even the fun and playful ones, he uses them to deepen our love and our unity. So this week, we encourage you all to take a few of these questions, maybe, that we've gone through today. Sit down with your spouse and just enjoy each other. Laugh together, listen well, and thank God for the journey that you're on right where you are. Well, as we go this week, we pray that your marriage is stronger and your walk with God is closer. After this episode, this is an extension of Connecting to Gap Ministries, and we pray that you have a blessed week.