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Welcome to modern mind modern mind ancient book

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where we

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explore one of the most important books in human history. Hello, and welcome to the very first modern mind, ancient book, we'd like to thank you for taking the time to join us. My name is Roger. My friend Doug is with me today. Doug, would you introduce yourself? Hello, everybody. My name is Doug. Raj and I are good friends. Okay, the title of this podcast is modern mind. ancient book, we decided to roll out this podcast. I'll let Doug take it from here.

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Well, the idea of modern mind ancient book comes from the idea that the Bible is actually a collection of books that span over 3500 years. And the way we think today is not the way that people thought, you know, centuries and millennia ago. And so therefore, we're trying to bridge the gap between how people would understand the book in its original setting, and how it helps us today.

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Yeah, exactly. This collection of books, is a collection that spans several 1000 years. And what the author intended, and the here is understood may not be what we understand when we read these books. So the point of this endeavor is to learn for ourselves, and then learn how because of our understandings, to lead our families to intelligently and accurately handle the tax, I do have a bachelor's degree in religious studies. I started my master's divinity program, I haven't completed it, maybe someday I will. Now I'm a construction manager. Oddly, I went from a theologian to a carpenter, jerker lead to a manager, Doug, what do you do?

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Well, I'm an attorney, I practice for a number of years. But I also consider myself to be a lifelong learner in terms of trying to understand the Bible. Its context. And its its full meaning.

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Okay, yeah. And that's kind of the point of what's going on here. There's a proverb, I believe you mentioned it before, when we were talking earlier today about the glory of God is to conceal a thing. But the glory of Kings is to search it out. So it's an exciting proposition to learn. And then to find these nuggets that we didn't see, that are there in the text. The Bible was a meditation book. It's a book that's meant to be thought about, and considered and read and re read and studied. It's a long standing story, it has a context and a culture. And the truth is, there are a lot of cultures today, outside of our own, that would have very different meanings of words. So even if we were having the same conversation, they might understand something different. So it's safe to say that an Asian person would think something completely foreign. So what we may even using the same words,

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go along with that idea is that we also have the problem of interpretation. You know, most people don't speak Greek or Hebrew. And the idea of translation is always a challenge because there's not a one to one correspondence with Greek and Hebrew to English, or for any other language, for that matter. So all languages have a cultural context that we have to overcome in order to understand the Bible.

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Yeah, language is an agreed upon set of meanings and concepts that are part of the larger I would say ethos, or I'm trying to avoid words like that. Just it's part of the larger culture that you belong. So for instance, didn't you say something about Yankee Doodle Dandy?

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Yes, when we were talking earlier, everybody knows the song Yankee Doodle Dandy. There's a phrase in there, Yankee Doodle, went to town riding on a pony, put a feather in his cap and called it macaroni. Yeah, question is, why is he putting spaghetti in his hat?

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Yeah. And I remember, I remember earlier telling me I had no idea. I imagined macaroni but did not know why?

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Well, the answer is the meaning of the word, macaroni meant something fancy. So he wasn't putting spaghetti in his hair, he was putting a father, because he thought it would make them fancy. And this makes a whole lot more sense than doing something as silly as putting spaghetti in his hair. And these are the types of things that we want to explore. Whenever we find them when we can understand things. And maybe because because we don't understand the meaning of words, so we don't understand the translation, or the cultural context as to why something would be in there. It should be a great mystery. And we want to solve mysteries, and we want to inspire people to do their own treasure hunting.

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Yeah, that's interesting. Do you happen to know when Yankee Doodle Dandy was written? Was that Revolutionary War kind of thing? Or?

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I believe it was, but I'm not certain. But I do believe it was.

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Yeah, so you got to figure between then and now something like 300 years have passed. And yet we lost the meaning of something so simple as macaroni to to mean a noodle. There's actually there's actually another interesting name that I just learned recently from, from oddly and other podcasts. Were Bugs Bunny says to Elmer Fudd, what a Nimrod. And so we know that to mean that he's an MSL when he was a hunter, but he can't kill the bunny rabbit. And the thing is, is for millennia for 1000s of years, the word Nimrod was known as a name in the Bible, of a mighty hunter, who founded cities, who was a man of great valor. But today, it's been redefined by sarcastic cartoons to mean MSL. It's very interesting change in language. So we're going now, on a journey as we discover and learn the Bible, we're going to do it as adults. And then also, I'm going to give you a glimpse into how that translates into teaching my family. I have a daughter and son wife and Doug's also married, so our spouses and children will be joining us at some point. The first 15 minute podcast, which is the one we're doing right now, will be our journey as men, what we learn together how we reason together, we'll be on display here. Our first 66 weeks will be a basic survey. We're going to do each individual books starting from the oldest to the newest, we're gonna put them in their place, their date, as best we can discern it, and talk about their authorship. We're going to talk about general overviews and ideas of the content. And we're going to do it quickly in bite sized snippets. So that it makes sense. The second podcast will be as parents and spouses and how we plan to teach our children the same thing. And you'll notice while there's going to be some overlap, there's also a little bit of change. Because information is meant to be conveyed in a way that's appropriate for the individual. And sometimes the group. And not everybody learns or accepts information the same way. So my five year old, learns at a very different pace than Doug and I do. Full disclosure, I am a Christian, I do have a bias. I do believe the Bible is a 3500 year long expression of human interaction with God. And that that's what people saw and believed. And then I also believe you do not have to believe or accept a religious worldview. We however in this podcast We'll focus on the culture, and the author's intended meaning. And what we believe the original hears, heard and understood. A survey of the Bible is our first undertaking, it was my Launchpad, out of Bible college. And it helped me to get a deeper understanding of how long these books have been written for and how they were recorded and their basic ideas. And for that, I think I was a better better Bible reader, dog.

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Actually, I'm a Christian. But I also want to point out here is that the value of the Bible has had sexual influence over the millennia that it's impossible to really be, I would say, truly educated person understand Western culture, without understanding its cultural relevance. The so it's kind of two things is that we're trying to recover the original meaning, we're also trying to understand how it has influenced us. If you look at literature, if you look at songs, if you look at art, the influence of the Bible can be seen all over the place. And so therefore, our scope is to try and illuminate. You don't necessarily have to agree with us. But we want to teach and inspire. And hopefully, that we can, we can have more interaction, because we've piqued people's interest to do their own study.

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Yeah, as modern mind, we do need to understand that who we are today is a direct reflection of everything that has been all of humanity is the summation of what was. That's what we are today. Our knowledge and exploration, make us who we are. I believe we need to give these texts their rightful place in human history. Not because I'm Christian. But because this book is the number one bestseller in human history. We value art, old and beautiful art. Because it's an irreplaceable item from the past. I'd like to see as value the words of the Bible in this way, if for nothing more than its context, is a reflection of humanity. So I'm not sure exactly why the Bible has turned into a book that causes so much division. And over the course of our journey, we'll obviously talk about some of the things that people feel like are unsatisfied, you know, and that they just don't like. But the truth is, is humanity is both positive and negative. And just about everything that we do in the Bible is a reflection of who we are. I would say in most cases, more so than of who the God of the Bible is. That's more what's recorded in the Bible. So you know, I'm excited to embark on this journey Duggan, and thanks for coming with me and, and I'm sure that the heroes will be richer for it. anything you'd like to add, Doug,

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you know, it describes who we are as human beings. But it also is a revelation from God, in terms of many things that we wouldn't know unless God actually told us. So. You know, if you believe that God is, excuse me if that human beings are made and in the name of God, you know, this kind of really good interplay in terms of who we are, and discovering God in this and that's my comment here.

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Thanks for joining us tonight. Doug, I look forward to speaking with you again. Good night, everybody. Thank you for joining us. Come back. Thank you for joining us for modern mind, ancient book. We hope that the time spent with us was valuable for you. It certainly was for us. Like Isabella said, Please come back soon.

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