Chantelle Salisbury is an energy alchemist that works with various tools in unearthing the true magic that's in each of us! She uses things such as reiki energy, sound healing, crystal healing, psychic development, intuitive card readings, angel numbers, angel numerology, holistic counselling and her guides to assist clients.
She is a nature lover, and has a double earth astrology of Taurus and Virgo rising star signs. She has a deep love of all things in the spiritual world which began when she was quite young, and she was always intrigued by magic and the unexplained which she wasn't able to explore until she was older.
Chantelle's Contact Details:
Instagram: @unearthedenergyhealings
Website: www.unearthedenergies.com.au
In this podcast episode we talk about:
- Chantelle's Reiki awakening
- Reiki healing and sound healing
- Clairsentience
- Clairvoyance
- Different Reiki courses
- Stepping into mediumship
- Healings
- Spirit guides
- Enlightenment into a new earth
- The evolvement of Reiki
- Angel numbers
- Angel frequencies
- Merkabah
- Arch Angel Metatron
- Arch Angel Michael
- Angel numerology
- Passed loved ones coming in as spirit guides
- Intuition
- Energy protection
Chantelle Salisbury is an energy alchemist that works with various tools in unearthing the true magic that's in each of us! She uses things such as reiki energy, sound healing, crystal healing, psychic development, intuitive card readings, angel numbers, angel numerology, holistic counselling and her guides to assist clients.
She is a nature lover, and has a double earth astrology of Taurus and Virgo rising star signs. She has a deep love of all things in the spiritual world which began when she was quite young, and she was always intrigued by magic and the unexplained which she wasn't able to explore until she was older.
Chantelle's Contact Details:
Instagram: @unearthedenergyhealings
Website: www.unearthedenergies.com.au
In this podcast episode we talk about:
- Chantelle's Reiki awakening
- Reiki healing and sound healing
- Clairsentience
- Clairvoyance
- Different Reiki courses
- Stepping into mediumship
- Healings
- Spirit guides
- Enlightenment into a new earth
- The evolvement of Reiki
- Angel numbers
- Angel frequencies
- Merkabah
- Arch Angel Metatron
- Arch Angel Michael
- Angel numerology
- Passed loved ones coming in as spirit guides
- Intuition
- Energy protection
Reiki, also known as basic teachings of the medicine Buddha, have been around for over 2000 years. The healings and teachings of the medicine Buddha have always been very linked in with helping the health and sickness of others. And Buddha was a primordial healer looking at the spiritual and physical body from the perspective of wholeness. For many years it was thought that Dr . Yasui first discovered reiki. However, after many uncoverings of truth, Dr. Yasui was actually a student of a well-known Buddhist monk. And thus, these teachings must be passed back over to this lineage of the medicine Buddha and taught within this framework as a part of the core teachings of Reiki, along with the Eastern teachings of Dr. Yasui , as I believe, without the full story and picture, one who becomes a student teacher or master of Reiki will never really understand it in its fullest context without the sacred teachings of the medicine Buddha the truth, as I always felt in my heart, there was always something missing from the reiki course I was a student with. And so I wanted to share what Reiki is to me from someone who is able to see what happens through the veil. Buddha is one of the ascended masters, or we can call him a divine master, and he's a beautiful teacher of compassion and bringing the heart and mind into true connection. When studied correctly and within the traditional symbols of the medicine Buddha, along with the traditional symbols of reiki, we begin to open up the channels of healing through the highest cosmos and the heavens. This means that as a healer, we are channeling through higher beings and their higher light to help us heal our mind, body, and spirit and that of others. There are many higher beings that come through to channel this healing energy for us, and it is only them who actually knows the right kind of guide and the right kind of healing for that particular person. I've done so many healings over the years and I was personally activated into my reiki mastership with the Buddha himself. And I believe that we all are hundreds of different ascended masters highlight beings, some who we have never even heard of. The angels and the cosmic high beings are all part of the healers who represent and come under the teachings of the medicine Buddha and Reiki Jesus, mother, Mary, the archangels, and many more. There are many lineages of reiki, but to be honest, the truth is where the medicine comes from is all the same. The medicine Buddha, the highlight beings and the angels, the cosmos and the heavens. I've seen Dr. Yasui as a higher guide and being who guides Reiki students and teachers. So he helps the medicine Buddha. So let's start telling the truth about Reiki being the kind of healing medicine that's coming from the higher heavens. And it's not just a hands-on healing modality, it never was. If you are a student or teacher of reiki, please just ask your higher guides to come down and help guide you on the correct path, the truest path of the medicine Buddha, and he'll bring through a new stream of consciousness within your healing abilities that will open you up further. My first experience with reiki was over 20 years ago, I was pregnant with my daughter and I could not stop vomiting. The morning sickness was debilitating. I had been to the hospital several times. I had to leave work early with no pay, and I had tried everything from ginger biscuits to one of those pressure bangs on my wrist, tea heat packs, you name it, I had tried it. So I opened the newspaper one day and it had an ad in the paper which talked about her being a reiki healer. And in the ad it said she could help with many problems during pregnancy, including morning sickness, and she could come to me at my home. So I called her and made the appointment and the sessions began a few weeks later and within a couple of sessions it had disappeared. No more morning sickness. She cured the morning sickness. So I guess you could say that both my daughter in Nutro and I had reiki together for the first time, and I felt that we were really on the cusp of something truly magical. I didn't know it was a part of a deeper activation I would feel over 20 years later on my spiritual journey. And this is where we begin our story with a beautiful Chantel . The first day I met Chantel was in St . Kilda in Melbourne many years ago. Now we'd both turned up to a reiki one course at a holistic center and neither of us really knew what we were getting ourselves into when we arrived there. There was a lot of chatting about past lives and strange psychic experiences. And as the day went on, we were initiated into our certification. And then it was time to have a go ourselves at giving reiki to another person who would be laying on the healing beds. I was a few people down from Chantel and I was doing my reiki healing on another girl who was a train driver. That was when I experienced a miraculous occurrence. As I placed my hands over the girl and began tapping into her higher energies, a humongous angel appeared over us. I could feel it and see it, and the energy was so beautiful and loving. It was her guardian angel letting us know that she had been with her during the accident. And afterwards it was then the girl explained to me that a few days before the reiki session, the train driver had been in an accident of some kind and she had been having anxiety and physical symptoms. Well , her angel was there protecting her and supporting her through this accident. And it was right then that I knew that I was on the right path weaving myself back into my next spiritual awakening. Since the reiki course, we both went on to do the rest of our other Reiki courses, 1, 2, 3 and three A and into our mastership. This took many years. We'd always kept in contact one way or another, but it was during isolation when we really became closer friends and would have zoom cacao chats as we couldn't leave the house. Chantel was always such a beautiful light that would cheer me up During those difficult iso times when we were all shedding so many energetic layers and moving through so many different upgrades, I had taken the path of psychic, medium ship more serious. During that time, I decided I want to, wanted to focus more on upleveling that and Chantel even joined a week-to-Week psychic medium ship course. I was offering like many of the guests that I have on here, I've met two Chantel's Nanas in spirit, and her nana has talked to my nana in spirit as well. You could say that we've been through the trenches together and supporting each other during difficult times. But what is special about our friendship is that we can talk and get as woowoo as we like because we know on a daily basis we, we both see angel numbers throughout the day have different guides coming in and we often move through the full moons together as well. I'm mostly all water being a Pisces and Chantelle is mostly earth being a Taurus . And I feel like within our friendship that's the perfect balance because earth and water balance each other out. We have also done courses together such as TBM, which is to be magnetic, which is all about manifestation and self-worth sharing our experiences of moving into our authenticity. Over the past few years, I have moved my spiritual journey into podcasting and writing books, which I re really think honors my truth because I worked and studied in journalism and media previous to moving into spirituality full-time. And Chantel has her full-time job working in the real world in health services, and she's a spiritual healing business, which she works in on the side. And over time, she has continued to evolve this into many different spiritual modalities. Chantel is an energy alchemist that works with various tools in unearthing the true magic that's in each of us. She uses various healing modalities such as reiki energy, sound healing, crystal healing, psychic development, intuitive card reading, angel numbers, angel numerology, holistic counseling, and her guides to assist clients. She's a nature lover, having double earth astrology of Taurus and Virgo Rising star signs a deep love of all things in the spiritual world, which began when she was quite young and she was always intrigued in magic and the unexplained, which she wasn't able to explore until she was much older. Chantel is going to be talking to us about her intuitive path, angel numbers, and psychic science . Welcome to the podcast Chantel . Can you tell us a bit more about what you're doing at the moment in the realm of spirituality?
Speaker 2:Hi Mel . Thanks for having me. Quite the intro. <laugh> . Yeah . So recently, as you mentioned, I've just completed my master's in holistic counseling and yeah, I'm just starting to get back on track with my business again, post covid and trying to balance the real world , uh, earthly duties that we all have in the day-to-day life, <laugh>, trying to balance work and our holistic and spiritual path. And similar to you, like , uh, I kind of got into the spiritual world in , in a similar pathway too , um, back in probably 20 15, 20 16. Around then I , um, was having really bad anxiety to the point I was having, like probably pretty close to anxiety attack back then. And , uh, through a friend I had a recommendation to go and see a reiki practitioner, someone else to who we both learn through and , um, went to have a session eventually with them after my friend suggested it, but I wasn't really sure, like most people, what's reiki and like, what should I do with it? But , and sat on to think about it for a little while to get into an appointment and eventually thought, what do I have to lose ? So I went to the appointment and after a little while of , uh, the appointments and seeing them and uh, back and forth with the appointments, I kind of felt like it made a difference. And that's all that matters when you're going through something like that with anxiety is the feeling of , uh, just feeling yourself again and feeling a lot more in your like grounded in yourself and in your body. So that kind of started my path on that kind of intuitive ifs and things that I was after trying to move forward with what was I gonna do and how was I gonna get back to being my true self again. And it started with that and then eventually moved into after quite a while of reiki appointments and also seeing a GP and stuff like that as well of seeing a , um, the reiki appointment , uh, changing reiki practitioners and then meeting you along our path. And , um, eventually wanted to go into , um, doing teaching , uh, teaching others and practicing on others. And it was probably a little along that path that I went to to do sound healing . 'cause during a session , um, uh, sound was introduced into the session and I really resonated with it. And that growing up sound and music is always something that I've , uh, really , uh, been pulled to. I've always had music on in the background, always really reacted quite well. And during the session the practitioner was like, oh , that sounds like something you could integrate with. So , uh, she referred me onto a sound healer. And yeah, that really formed to the basic , the base of me coming out the back of , um, anxiety attacks and being full on not feeling like myself every day , just feeling like on edge all the time and not knowing how to deal with the symptoms of anxiety or even really what it was at the time. So yeah, through holistic paths and stuff, I've kind of followed those instincts of like what's taken my interest and what pulled me along like little breadcrumbs I guess you could say, along a a path of like, what do I need to follow next and collecting them along the path to what's next, what takes my interest, what do I know about, what should I investigate next? So first for me, it was reiki, then it was sound teal , then it was angel numbers, then it was mediumship in amongst all of that as well. And , uh, angel numerology and um, yeah, eventually into just recently my master's in holistic counseling. So yeah, that's followed my path , kind of a windy road, <laugh>.
Speaker 1:Wow. It sounds like an , an amazing , um, journey. And do you feel like the reiki opened you up to a spiritual awakening?
Speaker 2:Most definitely. I reckon it was probably maybe at level two when we were hitting level two with our training. I think it was really at that point that I was like, I'm ready to shift and I'm ready to start leveling up. I'm ready to step into this next stage of the spiritual realm. But it was probably more so in the mastership where I felt like a real profound, like there's something, there's something on another level here that's different to like just this energy in this good feeling that it's bringing every time that I attend a session or I teach or I do it to someone else, like it , it was really next level, like when we were in our mastership with that at the time, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah . And was that when you began to feel the shift in energy that directed you towards moving from a bit being a reiki healer into discovering you had natural gifts with angels, mediumship and psychic abilities?
Speaker 2:Yeah , uh, definitely during my mastership I was already starting to see clients during , uh, probably just before Covid, I think I was already seeing them like one-on-one. And during my one-on-one sessions. And even during the trainings and things that I would attend, I'd often have mediumship type things, which at the time I didn't really know that that's what it was that would relate in my body to things that clients were experiencing at the time. So whether it's like a , a sore lower back or a tight chest, which I later realized was my sign for anxiety, even though, and it is really hard to kind of, of distinguish between that when you're in the session because it's really a , uh, deceptive thing to kind of work out , is that my stuff or is that the client stuff work and navigate those things out to see , oh , is that me? Is that them? And then how you relate those signs to different , um, words or experiences. And mediumship, I think for me has always been something that's come through really strongly. It's probably my first sense that I would say is my strongest. And then probably maybe knowing just the clear knowing after that and eventually, lately more so I am starting to get into more clairvoyance and signs and symbols that I've been progressing into. Um, and sort of understanding like my spiritual dictionary such as what, what do each of these signs mean and how do they relate to me and my interaction with the signs of what I know that that they mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I remember you doing a healing on me in one of the Reiki courses . I can't remember which one it was. So for me it's always been, you know, clear seeing Mm-Hmm . And for you, I think from that very point that I was clear seeing , you were clear feeling
Speaker 2:Mm-Hmm . Yeah .
Speaker 1:And so I do remember you saying, I can feel like I can feel this or I could feel that, whereas I would say, I could see this, I could see that, and I can't remember. And I used to get
Speaker 2:Really , I used to get really jealous when I was in those early days too, of like people that the opposite sense, like you and others that I'd met along the way to that could have that, you know, the , the sense or the seeing , like I used to be , oh , I'm so jealous. Like, how can I not like see how can I not be like that? But then, you know, along the way I'd say that to people and they'd be like, but I , I'm so jealous. Like someone that I spoke to was like, oh , I'm so jealous that I can't feel like you just sense that I've told you zero details and you've picked up that I've got this hip issue. It's a long standing hip issue that I've had surgery on and I've progressed and done other stuff with. Like , uh, I'm so in awe that you can just pick that up. And I'd be like, I suppose that's something like <laugh> Yeah, I , but you dunno it at the time when you're in it, so.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. And I think also feeling , um, of the senses that's also very linked in with the medical intuitive as well. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> . So, you know, spotting those physical signs in the body and letting them know, you know, sort of what needs to happen next. Um Mm .
Speaker 2:In
Speaker 1:The healing process. Yeah, I think that's really beautiful. Um, mm . With the feeling of the feeling of things. And the other thing is, is that I can't really count how many times I've heard about people talking about their reiki experience and talking about that being the catalyst for opening up their intuitive gifts or opening up their spiritual awakening. And now having been on the other side of that reiki mastership for many years as well, I just kind of look, look onto it a little bit differently now too, because I think as well, when you are in very specific trainings, but you don't really fit the mold as well, I think you, you know, you can kind of, you need to try and feel into, okay, where am I at? How can I, how can I move on to this different path when , uh, I don't feel like it 100% corresponds with the experiences that I'm having? And I think it's important to say that that's okay , isn't it? I think
Speaker 2:We all hundred percent ,
Speaker 1:We all felt different about our reiki journey. And I think the other things , uh, is important to mention is, is that there's many ways that you can do reiki. I think that you can actually also , uh, due reiki at an intensive weekend. Now that that isn't the way that Chantel and I learned . We actually learned over several years and , uh, completed , uh, really long periods of mastership completed so many different symbols, and the process was really long. So, and it was , it was at least a couple of thousand dollars. I can't actually remember how much it was now.
Speaker 2:It's quite a bit. And it was over several years too . Like it wasn't just in one weekend. I know you can also do it online too, which would be like a quick
Speaker 1:Yeah .
Speaker 2:Completion type thing online, which I don't think really represent the true authentic essence of what Reiki is about, because it's about that energetic connection which is lost in a , I think anyway, is lost on a online completion of coursework. Like, it's different if you are doing, you know, one-to-one type Zoom classes online because you're still connecting with another person on the other side of that. But, you know, if it's just a one dimensional piece of coursework or um, online completion thing, that's one dimensional, you know, log into a portal, complete something, check the tick box like that, you've lost the whole essence of what Reiki is about and the whole point of doing something like that.
Speaker 1:And it takes time, right? Mm-Hmm . So all the different initiations that we went through take a lot of time and they take a lot of integration. And I still even believe to this day, the Buddha just came back into my life very recently, and I know when he's coming back because he, he was the one who initiated me into that, into, into that very last part of the mastership on that very last session. That's who I saw, give me my symbol and do all of that kind of stuff. And I only felt him coming back in over the last couple of weeks, and I think he knew we were gonna be talking about it, so. Oh ,
Speaker 2:How exciting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think, I think , uh, she wants to
Speaker 2:Be known
Speaker 1:<laugh> . Yes. Um, and I, and since that time I've obviously stepped away from seeing clients as well, so it's like, how do I express my reiki or my medicine Buddha , uh, without particularly seeing clients. Um, but I do have to say I loved teaching the Reiki mastership. Um, it's, that was something that was so beautiful for me personally. So I don't know , maybe there's something else coming up with that made
Speaker 2:Me in the new future ,
Speaker 1:<laugh> , maybe he sees something coming.
Speaker 2:<inaudible> will make his presence known, I'm sure. <laugh>.
Speaker 1:<laugh> . Yeah. So I feel everyone has their own experience. And for those who tried reiki and it didn't resonate with them, it could be a few things. One could be , uh, you just didn't find the right teacher for you.
Speaker 2:Mm ,
Speaker 1:Definitely . Yeah . And so you can look for somebody else. There's so many Reiki teachers, but I would definitely encourage you to go for the long, longer approach in learning and being initiated and , and activated into that lineage because it's quite special that time. And after you've moved through that awakening and you've spent several years going through it once you're through the other end. And I'm not sure that there really is another end. But once you threw <laugh> through those first couple of years, you really appreciate everything that you've gone through in the journey because it's like, wow, look where I was. Now look where I am. And so , uh, I think the other thing that I've heard as well is , uh, some people going into reiki and then finding that , uh, it's kind of like under a very specific umbrella, and so they find that they can step into other forms of healing like shamanic healing , um, which I love myself. That was personally a natural thing for me to step into that after I had done reiki. Um, when I say natural, I just, I had no guidance with this apart from my own guides . I just started adding like all of these different things from nature to my healings , um, flowers and stones and crystals. And I actually didn't realize that was a part of the shamanic healing practice. And I didn't realize I was shamanically healing, but that was what I was, that that's what came up for me naturally within my reiki healing. Um, and then it kind of just, I developed my own form of healing from that point. And it's continued to, to develop through that, through those points. And I think when, by the time the next generation of healers move through their reiki trainings or their healing trainings, I was thinking about this earlier today, I feel like they're going to need content that is like super multi-dimensional because they're not going to be working from a one dimensional space. Like all of these younger kids that are coming up and coming through, they're already gonna have their light bodies. They're already gonna be in there. They're already going to be attuned to that multidimensional space. And therefore those practices that we've learned are actually gonna become quite outdated I think. So
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure . Do you think Definitely a hundred percent . Yeah. I mean, while you were talking about that, I wasn't thinking about new Earth like that's happening right now. Like everything's clearing, everything's collecting new energy at the moment. Like we are getting upgrading every minute of the day at the minute to bring in that new earth energy at the moment. And it's very clear if you , you know, even look for 2.5 seconds on the news, like stuff is happening, stuff is clear clearing stuff is purging like civilization and the balance of society is changing every day and people are becoming more and more aware of the imbalance that there, and to me, that's only showing people towards the light more, showing them to bring in that, that light and balance things out, which brings them closer and closer into that transcending into the different dimensions that they need to travel through. So totally agree. Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Makes sense
Speaker 2:To me .
Speaker 1:And I think, yeah , that's a good point because I feel like that's why your, your intuitive GI gifts get amplified with reiki. It's because as those higher guides and the , and that highlight starts working through your body and we start clearing out our past traumas and anything really that's, I guess weighing us down , um, or anything that we're holding somatically in the energy bodies from our past, once we start to release that suppression, our bodies just start to step into that higher light and therefore they can access these extra intuitive abilities, access higher timelines. And I feel like this is also really why Reiki is a pathway of the Buddha, because his role was as a pridal healer. Um, he used to go out to communities and, and heal people within the communities. And that was through the teachings of the medicine Buddha. He's also the , and a teacher of enlightenment. And many people try and , and think of enlightenment as this place that we never get to. But the truth is, we are always moving through the process of enlightenment, particularly now where our light bodies are transcending into the new earth. Well, that's his role really, isn't it ? Yeah. So I am really looking forward to seeing how Reiki evolves. And
Speaker 2:I think that's like everything, isn't it, like humans as a race and as an evolution. Like they're constantly evolving. So change is the only constant really in life, isn't it really?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah . Yeah. That's true. And I just feel like these little ones, people coming through , um, like I've got quite a few little nieces, I just feel like they're gonna be so psychic
Speaker 2:<laugh> . I keep , I do keep feeling that actually just intuitively anyway, that I'm like every soul that's born right now, like they are wanting to be here for this next like energy up level that's coming in , it's gonna be massive. So, you know, they've chosen to be here for this next major upgrade that's coming in their lifetimes. Yeah . It's gonna be massive jump.
Speaker 1:The for what used to be the true like , uh, I think they call them indigo children or crystal children. Um , I think we're gonna see so much more of that coming , um, and
Speaker 2:So much more conscious than like, aware of things than , and the impact that it's leaving just as on the human society and the balance that it has in things as well. Like yeah .
Speaker 1:That
Speaker 2:In general.
Speaker 1:So did you always feel that the angels were around you? And what kind of signs did the angel send you and how can we notice these more?
Speaker 2:I would say I definitely didn't always believe that at all. I do feel like it's probably become more, I've become more aware or open to it as I've started on this spiritual path. And I would say definitely as we mentioned earlier about that kind of spiritual awakening, once we started on the reiki path, I think that I became more and more aware of things. And as I sort of tracked through that, you know, from level one right at the mastership, you know, somewhere in the middle there, like I started to become more aware of things and my interest sort of peaked and I started, like there was a different energy that came through and um, and I was quite , uh, still interested in like psychic mediumship and stuff. So I would see people at the time and people also would highlight it to me in interactions and things that I would meet or, you know, have appointments and stuff like that with them. And they would bring it up with me and say, oh , you seem like you've got quite a lot of angels around you, or like, you know, did you know you have one around you? Or something like that, along those lines. And, you know, they would make points around like how they would be communicating with me. 'cause at that point I didn't really have that awareness or realization of to, to look for these signs that they would be around me. So after that, I think I started going on my intuition again and looking into like, oh, what are the angels? And like, I need to know more about this. Like, I wanted to educate myself a little bit more about what are they, who are they, what are their names, like these kind of things. And then after I started becoming aware of things like that, I started finding things through like, just general interactions. Like it might be a TV show and there'll be Nathan, which to me corresponds to Archangel Nathaniel. So that would link back to me to be like that. Or, you know, Mike , the name Michael would keep coming up, which would link back to Archangel Michael. And it would be in simple things like, you know, it could be a TV show and the credits are rolling through. And it was just like three shows in a row that I've watched, and they've all got that name. Or , um, one psychic medium that I went to see. She was saying like, I think you should look for it, like in numbers. Like the numbers are gonna be really corresponding to you because it's due to the me bar that shape through that , which is a , um, geometric shape that one of the angels hold. And I think it's Michael , right ? That holds that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah . Uh , the MEbA is Archangel Metatron.
Speaker 2:Oh, Metatron , yeah , sorry. <laugh> .
Speaker 1:Uh , Michael, Michael has the sword and um, Archangel Metatron has the MEbA .
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I think once he started coming through, that's like when I started seeing the numbers a lot more. So I started seeing the links back to like angel numbers or angel numerology. So it'd be like a triple one 11, triple three, triple four, triple eight, you know, the , or even double numbers like two two or three three or things like that. When I talk about angel numerology, to me that is like the number, a three digit number that starts with the one number and ends with the same number. So that could be like 3, 6, 3 or 7, 6, 7 or 2, 4, 2, something like that, or things like that. And a lot of the time I'll see those numbers in number plates as I'm like driving around, going here and there and stuff like that. It like, they just appear to me and they'll be everywhere. And then certain things too will relate to like them talking to me . Like if I see the number 9 1 1, to me that's like, pay attention. Something needs your attention. So I'll see that in a number plate and I'll be like, oh, what do I need to pay attention to? Like, something's happened. And, and sometimes it's not even something like big, it's just like, you need to pay attention, like a bill's coming out and you don't have like, money in your account, like it's gonna be charged debit or something like that. Yeah . It'll be simple things like that. Or like, you are supposed to make an appointment and you're gonna miss it. Like if you don't, if you're not paying attention to the time today , stuff like that , you know, they're just giving me little nudges to say, pay attention to things like, you need to look at stuff or action things. Like, nothing major, but that's taken me time to kind of realize that that's what it is. 'cause I think when I first started seeing signs or medium ships or signs or symbols and things like that, I would almost in the early days take it as a literal thing and be like, oh, I need to do that immediately. I'm losing money or, or , you know, I've gotta move to this location. And as I started getting more and more into it, I , I realized that it's not a literal thing, it's more a higher philosophical sense of like , uh, like you need to be in a sunny place, or, you know, this is a happy place for you. Or there's abundance coming through because I see money as a symbol or something like that. So yeah, they just gimme little signs and nudges and things like that to kind of give me little , um, ideas about what I need to do.
Speaker 1:I love that. And I love that they're so connected to, so even though they're higher beings, I love that they, they're actually giving you messages to help you on your earth path, which is really beautiful because I feel like that's actually their role , right? Angels are divine messages, messages,
Speaker 2:Yeah ,
Speaker 1:For sure. The divine message messengers of God. So they really hold that higher, the highest light frequency. And I would actually say, to be honest, just in my experience and with having several angel encounters over the years, I would actually say that their light feels much, much, much higher than the ascended master's light. So the angelic light really feels like , uh, they're on that level of, so I see basically Mother Mary as in that higher space of light with the her 1000 of angels around her, and that's like the highest space of light. And her energy has to stay really, really, really high. And so the angel's role is to keep her energy high so that she can be of support and protection to us. That's why I feel like , uh, the angels themselves, when if you do have an encounter with them, they feel like the most beautiful frequency of divine love ba basically.
Speaker 2:Mm , yeah, for sure. They've definitely got a different, like, energetic feel about them to say the feel maybe that you would get in like a session of like reiki or some kind of energetic healing or something like that . It's definitely got a different feel about it. And it's really hard to put a finger on a specific way to describe it to the listeners that maybe have never had encounter with them before, or maybe I yet do have one. But yeah, it , it's definitely one of the things that you, when you have it, you , you have a clear knowing of like, oh , this is different. And there's something around me that hasn't been around me before, but it , it , it is in a positive and good, uplifting , safe environment when that comes through. So I just wanna like, make sure that it's important to mention that, that it's, it's a safe and , um, protected environment. It's not something to be scared of or fearful of. Like, they're always there for your highest good. They're not going to be there to do any harm or scare you, and they'll come through when the time's right. On your path.
Speaker 1:Yeah . And their energy is a frequency, right? So usually people are having their first encounter with an angel. You know, I would basically call it like a miraculous occurrence. I think I saw my first two angels. I was around six or seven, and I was sitting in my lounge room at Christmas time , and I actually looked out the window and there were two angels just gliding by outside. So that was my first experience. And I said to my dad , uh, either my dad or my brother, I said, did you see that? Did you see those people walk by? One was a boy and the other one was a girl. And they said, no, what are you talking about? There's no one else here. Like in the street today. Everyone's gone out for Christmas day. So that was the first one. The second one was actually in love . The second one was in Maya , in the fragrance section,
Speaker 2:Having a shop for their day, <laugh>.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was just the most beautiful feeling in the world when she walked by. As she walked by, she just, just , she just kind of disappeared into the atmosphere. And I was like, whoa, what just happened? You know? And that was at Christmas time as well. And I also wanna note that my sister, who I lost quite early in life, she was born on Christmas Day, so it could have also been connected to her that, that later one, which I believe it was. And then as an adult, I've had, I've had quite a few more, but now I will actually , because it's so beautiful. The, the energy is so beautiful and high frequency and so loving. Um, I actually just asked them to come in now as well because I just love it so much. But the way to explain it is if you, if you don't see higher beings or you haven't developed your psychic senses, the way to explain it would be the highest possible frequency of high, of, of divine love.
Speaker 2:Mm-Hmm .
Speaker 1:So that's the frequency . Yeah .
Speaker 2:That's a great way
Speaker 1:That they come in on
Speaker 2:Mm-Hmm . Um ,
Speaker 1:And then they're able,
Speaker 2:It's to explain it .
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's , uh, sort of my experience with angels. And you've already chatted about numbers, but what's your favorite angel number and in what kinds of places have you seen this number and what does it mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably , uh, angel Numerology that I just mentioned before, like the corresponds to like four seems to be like, quite like my, like higher sense number. So Angel num originally would be like the number 31, 'cause three and one is four or 13, one and three is four. And like numbers to that effect that add to four, or even just straight up the number four, I feel like, yeah, it's kind of , uh, the presence of joy. Letting joy lead you is probably the message behind that and letting Joy take the lead onto your actions. So yeah, it's probably a good number to kind of, you know, lead you with your heart rather than fear, I guess. Probably a nice one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I love that. I love the number four as well, but I don't, like, for me, they don't usually come in as like the things to add up as, because I'm not very good at maths.
Speaker 2:They're probably either in my wouldn't works . Yeah . Sometimes it's straight up too , like, just like triple four, like, you know, if I'm having like a down day where I'm just like, I can't compute today, my brain is switched off. Oh , I
Speaker 1:Love that .
Speaker 2:And they'll come through and just do triple four in number plates or counts for things or , uh, like, you know, it might be 31 items or 13 items or something at the supermarket on the self-checkout. And I'm like, oh , they're back again today. <laugh> <laugh> watching me as I shop today. Thanks guys. <laugh> .
Speaker 1:Oh , I love that. And I was also gonna mention that when, because you mentioned Archangel Michael. Mm . And that's who I felt was your guide that came in for you today. Like he's, who I feel is here for you today during, during the podcast, which is interesting. Mm . And then you said 9 1 1. And my sign for my dad is Porsche, and he has a Porsche nine . Oh , he has a Porsche 9 1 1,
Speaker 2:Which gave ,
Speaker 1:Which he gave to my brother when he passed away. They're doing
Speaker 2:From Jill channeling again, Melan . We don't even know it <laugh>. So
Speaker 1:This happens that's , this happens very often with Chantel and I , she and Chantel and I, we'll be texting each other and things will come up for her. That means something for me and things will come up for me. That means something for her. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> so happens
Speaker 2:All the time, like
Speaker 1:It's a daily endurance .
Speaker 2:And even in , yeah, even in like everyday like energetic shifts or something, like you'll be having a tough time or something. I'm like, yeah, I'm having a blast over here . <laugh> . It's usually a hot tip for me to be like, yeah, you are gonna be in fruit in another three months or something. Like, and me would be all sweat good as gold and ready to go <laugh>
Speaker 1:<laugh> . And I think that's the changes as well between the earth and the water, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Definitely the earth and the water energy experiencing the opposite things. But we have had so many things linking together. And as I said previously, I think Chantel's also channeled in with my nana as well. Like , I can't remember. I I think so, but because our Nanas Yeah . A couple of
Speaker 2:Times . Yeah .
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because of our nanas have both met. I do feel like they're playing games with us a little bit as well . <laugh> , I'm swapping the messages, swapping the messages , um, other , each other some Kate
Speaker 2:Makeup there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah . <laugh> . Because I don't think I ever , I ever told you, but I did tell the teacher at that time when we went, oh , I don't know whether you, did you do the Crystal Reiki course?
Speaker 2:I did, yeah. Crystal .
Speaker 1:Yeah . You were there. I think you were there that day. Mm-Hmm . Well, my nana came in for that whole experience because she was a collector as a, as a young girl. She was a collector of Swarovski crystals.
Speaker 2:Ky Yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 1:That's it . <laugh> . Yeah . And she had so many, and so she decided she was gonna join the course that day in spirit. Aw . And so
Speaker 2:I feel like that vaguely rings a bell, actually. I feel like I vaguely remember you telling me about it on the day. Yeah, yeah ,
Speaker 1:Yeah. So yeah, I think it's really nice that if you feel like you are walking the spiritual journey alone, like there's really no need to, because you can always ask for your guides to send through a friend, you know, someone that you don't know yet, probably to, you know, it's better when you're journeying with a friend, isn't it? It's very, very lonely
Speaker 2:Alone . Yeah.
Speaker 1:And isolating if you don't have a friend to reach out to, to, and, and also not as fun, you know? Mm-Hmm . What, what uses it of getting all of these angel numbers and signs if you , you've got no one to share them with
Speaker 2:And
Speaker 1:Compare.
Speaker 2:Yeah . Um ,
Speaker 1:So for me, I love seeing the number sevens personally myself. And examples of this would be the cafe where I pick my coffee up a few times a week. I coincidentally always park out the front of the house, which is number seven, <laugh> <laugh> . Coincidentally, I also walked past a massive Porsche dealer at the same time. And so for me, myself, I believe that the energy stream of the seven is the energy stream , um, of Jesus or Yeshua, along with the number 12, which is basically Christ consciousness. Um, and that consciousness carries the energies of pure divine love. And it's all about walking the path of truth and unity within yourself and with others, and all about that like heart and mind connection. So , um, I feel like number seven, even the twos for me also come up not as often though. And the twos for me are all about Mary Magdalene and Jesus and their synergy together. So their story, which is the journey of the Twin Flames and the Sacred Union. And then if you pop Mother Mary into the mix along with her angels, for me, I start seeing frequencies of zeros and ones and any of those combinations together. So the other day, I think I was talking , uh, to Chantel about this, well, the following day I got into the car with my husband, and that song came on the radio at exactly the time where there was, I think it was like 1, 1 0 1 or something. And then that song came on, mother Mary, come to me,
Speaker 3:Oh ,
Speaker 1:Words of wis , wi you know, wisdom let it be. And I was like, oh my God, <laugh> , we just spoke about that. <laugh> .
Speaker 3:Yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 1:And I told my husband and he is like, not surprised about it at all anymore. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> because it happens all the time. And so for me, number five is very resonant with the Akashic records, as is the number four frequencies. Like Chantelle , I do get a huge number of number fours. So if you're seeing a lot of these, you might like to find out more about the Kashic records because this is usually a sign that they have some kind of message for you. Um, and to me, the KIC records do work directly with your soul mission. So if you've been asking questions about your soul mission or what it is you're supposed to be following, I think fours generally come up from what I've seen your life, past, future, and present is sitting within the records. And I wasn't really aware of the future aspect of that previously, but over the last year, I've been seeing future t my future timelines in the records. Hmm . So I will ask about something and my guides will say, it's already done. Like you've already done it.
Speaker 3:Mm .
Speaker 1:You don't actually need to worry about whether you're doing it or not. It's done, it's already happened,
Speaker 3:Been
Speaker 2:And gone
Speaker 1:<laugh>, it's been and gone even though I haven't actually produced it yet on the earthly stream, I have actually produced it in consciousness.
Speaker 2:Mm-Hmm .
Speaker 1:So that's kind of bizarre. And then the other thing is that I was thinking about , um, just like I've kind of created my own personal guide when it comes to numbers . You can also create your own personal guide and we're all on different spiritual paths. So I think those meanings as well can become a little bit subjective. They can mean different things, agreed to
Speaker 2:Different
Speaker 1:People.
Speaker 2:Definitely. Yeah. So
Speaker 1:You are your best guide, and basically if you start seeing different numbers all the time, then you can just write those down and tune in and say, oh, well what, what does that mean to me? 'cause it might mean same someone else.
Speaker 2:Yeah . That's probably my one key tip too , actually is like me and I have just discussed like what they mean to us , but that is on a personal level. So the listeners might have a different meaning to like what that is to you. Like maybe four to you is the very first childhood home you had and you lived with your mom or your dad who's passed away, or , um, your grandparent has passed over and that's the first house that you ever knew that you lived in. Um , so maybe they're sending that message through the numbers to you. Um, or it could be in another method like that is really subjective, like Melan I've just said, and really personalized to you, which goes back to the theme of like this podcast, which is what does your intuition tell you? What is, what are you being pulled towards or what is your interest being guiding , guiding you to tell you in a stronger sense as such? Like is it numbers, is it messages, is it birds? Is it like whatever, whatever that is as such.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I also feel like the numbers resonate with frequencies. And so that means that they could be resonating with your frequency and making that frequency stronger. Um, and I think we've , we saw, or I saw a lot of this in isolation where people would be going through a bit of an upgrade. And , uh, so the way to explain it is in the air around us, frequencies drop down from the heavens and they come in the formulation of number calculations. And so you could be receiving a number four calculation, a number four frequency, and then that could bring you healing energy for your next upgrade as well. So it can come in as like a dropdown frequency as well, I felt. Have you felt that ?
Speaker 2:Probably not so much in that sense, but , uh, you know, because I opposite operate as we kind of mentioned the listeners before, I operate on a kind of opposite level, it comes through more. So for me in waves or senses of like knowing like at the moment, like I'm sensing like these fires and global warming and violence and all of that kind of stuff on the earthly pain is like another energetic upgrade, I guess from the opposite side of like exactly what you've just been saying. Like this is the backside of the covid energy clearing and purging out from everybody into another cent , especially coming out as , uh, down here in Australia. Like, we're coming outta winter at the moment. So it's really this wave of energy that's coming through in a fresh sense that's really like clicking through everyone and really bringing this new wave of fresh energy that's moving through everyone. So , uh, to me that comes through in like senses of like tools or themes for things that like move certain things will keep cropping up and I can't ignore it. Like
Speaker 1:Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
Speaker 2:It might just be like, you know, fires or like this sense of like, it could be another black sat day type thing. Like , um, like I was watching the Hawaiian fires like not long ago and had this overwhelming sense of like, this just feels like a black start day fire that we've had in Australia before with the amount of deaths and the way it's just had wild winds and like just crest up outta nowhere. And humanity had kind of pushed back at the time to speak to the higher powers that were in charge to say like, we think we, this could be a concern, but there was no action being taken. So for me, like that comes through as like a bigger sense of like this poor urge of like, there's something in this new wave of energy that's coming through, which is pretty much the opposite of like how you were just describing it in this sense of like , during covid, like you felt like there was drops in like frequencies that you would tell. Like for me that's like surges three themes in the earthly plane . Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> that comes through to me as a almost the , the complete opposite of like how you interpret it. <laugh> . Yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 1:And I think that's , that's good to know because you know, we are all receiving different kinds of things and none of them is like right or wrong. So you might experience something that's completely different to Chantel or completely different to me. You know, Chantel being a feeler and me being a seer . I'm trying to think of , um, of another sense that , uh, the
Speaker 2:Knowing maybe or
Speaker 1:Smell even Yeah . The knowing or you could know that something's happening. Um , the smells have really got me over the years because
Speaker 2:Me too, me. So in the last couple of years actually, I get more and more like , uh, uh, sensitive, I guess is the word to it, and very less tolerant to very strong smells. Yeah . Like, I can't have any kind of fragrance anymore. Like it's gotta be very minimal
Speaker 1:Yeah .
Speaker 2:These days.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. And for me, actually, because I'm a bit of a vomiter , um, <laugh> <laugh> , any kind of smell that is not good will trigger that. So my husband deals with all of that kind of stuff. I can't go near any kind of bad smell. Um, and lately it's interesting, I've been having these smells come in regularly where I actually don't know what it is or I don't know where it's coming from, and it's really, really, really strong. So I'm trying to still figure out sort of what that is. It's like really, really odd. Um , maybe
Speaker 2:It's a new spirit coming through. Sometimes it smell can be associated with spirit as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it could be. So yeah, you can can get different signs like that. And what other signs, what other kinds of signs should we look for when we're desperately needing some guidance from the universe?
Speaker 2:So like we were just talking about so far, I think it's important to be open to receiving those senses . Like , uh, like Melan , I've just been discussing so far being receptive and open to senses. Like in the early days, my instincts were like gut reactions to things like, that was before I even really got into this realm or onto this path. Like my guiding force, because I'm a feeler was always, oh, I've just got this gut instinct or that , or gut reaction or gut knowing I would call it as to what's striving me or leading me onto certain things. Like, oh , I just know that, like I've got this gut feeling that that's not right, or I know that that's not the sense. So maybe listening to your own instinct through things like that, or even meditation is actually quite a big one too, that I've learned along my pathway too , which actually helps clear your own ego into receiving messages or knowing that, like, knowing that you want predicted outcomes. It's really hard to receive stuff if you've your own ego's in the way to receive the answers or push the answer or outcome that you want. It's really , so I guess, yeah, just being really receptive to signs or symbols or angels or this inner knowing or voyance or feeling that you might be receiving and not doubting it. That's really important too , to not doubt the answer or the outcome or instinct that you're getting. Follow that through because it might not be the whole answer, but it's gonna lead you to the answer, which I've sort of discovered along the way too <laugh> .
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's,
Speaker 2:That's good . Sometimes the hard way too . <laugh>.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's good to know. Um, I think for me, you know, when I'm in that, in that mode where I'm looking for some help, mine usually comes in from the spiritual realm at that time. Um, so past loved ones with my dad, he just, lets usually lets me know that he's around. Um, so my particular song , uh, that he sends me to let me know that he's around is a Special Touch of Paradise. Um, and that's from John Farham . So that comes on in the car for me on the radio a lot. Now, you would not think that that song would be playing, but it comes on a lot. And one time, this was only a month or so ago, I hopped into the car , um, with my son and my son's sign song is The Power of Love. And that song came on and then No kidding, straight after that, A Touch of Paradise came on. Wow.
Speaker 2:Literally double bangers today , that day that ,
Speaker 1:But I was like, oh my God, this, and, and it was also on a Sunday and my dad's and I day was on a Sunday. So you can get, if you are , if you are willing to, I guess open up and ask , uh, the spirit realm or the higher realms to send you messages, they definitely will. And they'll send more of them if they know that you are open to that as well.
Speaker 2:So being open is also like picking up the phone to talk to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, picking
Speaker 2:Up the phone to say's exactly Right. Hey, I wanna talk to you, otherwise they're not gonna bother. 'cause they think, oh, you're busy, we don't wanna bother you.
Speaker 1:Yeah .
Speaker 2:You think in a literal sense of like, oh , I'm just gonna text them , or I'm just gonna call them. Like that's them saying, Hey, can you send me a message? Oh , hey. Yeah, I'm still here. <laugh>.
Speaker 1:<laugh> . Yeah. That's so true. So tell me a bit more about your mediumship journey and your first interactions with Spirit.
Speaker 2:So, as I kind of touched on earlier, like my first interactions were through Reiki. So I was getting , um, the medium ship through clients that I was working on and sort of knowing or senses of things that I was like, oh, that's, and would doubt it quite a lot at first, because I was like, I would mix my own feelings with what I was receiving. And it's very intertwined in those early days when you are receiving things like that and you think, oh, I , I , oh , I must just, it must've been me, like, oh, I've got a sore shoulder, or I've got a sore hip , or , you know, my lower back really hurt . Like, you know, that. And it's really hard to , to be in those feelings when you're working on clients that have those things that are , they've brought to , into the session. Because all you wanna do is just bend over or stretch your back or you , it's really hard to maintain holding that space or that energy that's, you know, coming through, through the mediumship for say, you know, 25, 30 minutes or more in some cases, depending on how long you're gonna do a session for. And the early days, it's really hard to kind of, you know , uh, tolerate it. I guess it's , it's building the tolerance in the early days to be able to hold that space of a sore back or a sore neck or, you know, and this client might've had that for 10 years or five years or something, you know, and that's just everyday aches and pains to them. But, you know, if you don't have that feeling, then it , it's really hard to kind of manage it and hold that for 40 minutes where you're back burning out or they've got a busted , um, disc in their back or had surgery because their ligament stuffed or something in their leg. Um, so I would often pick things like that up in the early days of my reiki and stuff and really not know how to manage. It really wasn't, it probably until maybe a couple years in that I would , was starting to pick up that it was actually mediumship and that it was , uh, something else that like I could develop that on top of moving towards like clairvoyancy or like a , a knowing kind of sense of things. So yeah, it's kind of picked up momentum over time and um, like we just said in the last question too , which was about, how do I know it? The taking those steps through the instinct or the knowledge of like, oh , maybe I should investigate this a bit further and find a bit more out it around it because I'm not sure what it is, or I wanna know more about why I'm feeling like this, or is this connected to mediumship? I'm not even sure, or I would like to do more with it, but I'm not sure what that entails. And educating yourself and researching it is sometimes the first step in understanding what it is and connecting the dots to the next point that you're supposed to go to. But yeah, it's taken a long time to kind of develop over time and um, build up that sort of stamina to kind of join the dots and get what one symbol means or another symbol means, or even the mediumship level of like what certain things relate to
Speaker 1:Yeah . In
Speaker 2:Time
Speaker 1:And as well, you know, as juggling whatever you've got going on with life as well. <laugh> .
Speaker 2:That's true. Yeah, very true. Like if you are stressed and you're like, oh , is that me? Or is it that person? I've gotta come in clear to this session and not bring in my own issues or, you know, it's hard to clear that out and say, oh, I act , you know, in some cases spirits have come through and tried to show me on the other side of my body. So if I've got stuff that I know is my own thing on say the left side of my body, they've demonstrated it to me on the right side of my body to make it very clear to me that that is not my stuff, that is the client stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh , I love
Speaker 2:That . So for me, I know that, that for me, I know that that is not my own thing. That is a client thing. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> .
Speaker 1:Yeah .
Speaker 2:Um, and I know very clearly that I'm like, oh , I'm gonna take note of that, or I'm working on this chakra and all of these things are happening around that area of the body. I'll need to speak to that , um, level post the session and chat about like what we can do to implement things around trying to, you know, if it's solar plexus make their confidence better or work with self-awareness or let's clear out some worrying self doubt or building self-esteem and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because I think as well, like the medium ship journey and the path to become a medium, a medium I would say at least takes a good 10 years because it's such a long, long journey and most people on that journey have given up by that time because it's a hard journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, and so it's really an interesting one. Um, and for me, after like being a part of all these different courses and things and being , and you know, within those courses there were hundreds of, you know, mediums from all around the world. I think, you know, there's one thing that really stood out for me over the last couple of years is that the process to becoming a medium and gaining a medium ship gifts , um, is changing. And I don't think in the future we will learn medium ship like many are now. And that's really because I found personally myself that the traditional teachings of now and and the past are very masculine in nature. And so for me it's all about tapping into the feminine. And I found also that the mediumship teachings were very one dimensional, meaning you're just connecting into the spirit realm. You're not connecting into other higher realms and you're not being taught that all of these different spirits in spirit realm still have angels and masters and cosmic beings around them. Um, and so I just feel like with what we spoke, spoke before about the new earth and when all these different multiple timelines are coming in, I just feel like , uh, the upcoming mediums we'll be learning mediumship differently. Um, and I just personally found that tra the traditional pathway into mediumship really didn't work for me at all. Um , in fact, I had to step away from that path because I felt like I wasn't honoring what I was personally seeing. So I would meet up online and there were hundreds of other mediums from every part of the world and they were just hopping into the spirit world.
Speaker 2:Mm . And I
Speaker 1:Was like, hang on a a minute. Why am I seeing all these angels? Why am I seeing all of these other cosmic beings? Why am I seeing all of these divine masters coming through? Nobody's talking about those things. Nobody's talking about medium ship as a healing process, either as being a healer. And so for me, that uh , medium gyp ship journey , um, took a different direction and I had to really start honoring that. And I'm glad I did because I'm just on a different path now because of that. And it's a very, very feminine path. It's not the masculine way of, of learning things. So
Speaker 2:That's also too , just like mediumship and psychic development or psychic , um, readings, I think are a form of healing as such anyway, like, you know, if you're gonna do that for a client, then that is bringing them a form of healing. So in a way it is the same thing. It's just not through that method that you were speaking of like as well.
Speaker 1:So being an empath, how can we protect our energies?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a really important one actually. And it is probably one of the most common questions you get asked or is the hardest lesson when you come into the spiritual path or when you start on this realm. Like majority of people that are coming into this world are gonna be empathic or at the very least sensitive souls. And it is the biggest lesson, I would almost say like a 1 0 1 rookie mistake, even at any point in the game that you forget because it is so basic as well. So , uh, boundaries are like a massive thing. And protecting your energy when you're an empath , it's so easy for others to take advantage of you and your energy because you're just so accommodating and willing to listen to people and you know, really hold space for people as well. Um, and that you really need to get , uh, strong boundaries and get some kind of energy protection , uh, method or system set up each day. It needs to be a daily practice as well. Something you learn , learn really early in the game when you're sort of in this realm or path, if you wanna call it. And mine start , I tried a few things, which is kind of the theme of <laugh> of this podcast again, which is, you know , working to what works for you. So I tried the , the traditional one, which is the, like a ball of , uh, like some kind of energetic ball that would , um, encompass you almost like those clear balls that you can sort of sit in and run in at like sports parks and things. It's like games and things like that where you like roll into the ball and you can either put water inside of it and or run, run around. I used to think of it like that. I've also had other people refer to it as like the Wizard of Oz type , um, queen , queen of like the , like a ball of energy or protection around you that basically no one and their energy that's interacting with you can interfere with and it helps strengthen your energy in your day to day interactions. I've also done energy layers as well, so different colored energy that in my way would represent the different chakras or , um, different levels of like energy protection that you would have around you, similar thing, but it's more like a energetic aura that would not necessarily be like a big ball, but maybe like probably an arm span in front of you, length out and sort of around sort of a dimensional around you, like in front, behind side to side , that kind of thing. The best one though, that I found in my time though, because I didn't always , um, resonate with that one either , uh, was an crystal aura basically, which is crystal protection with black crystal that would protect my inner being outta being. And I would speak to my guides and ask them to protect my energy in and around me and any interaction throughout the day, ask them to protect me from anyone that wishes to , uh, manipulate, drain, or interact with my energy in a negative or low vibrational way or ways to that effect that would allow me to protect my energy throughout the day and ask the guides to protect my energy with my energetic body, my aura and my physical body , um, in those three kind of layers as well. So that I have a thick black obsidian crystal that would come around and protect me at all times throughout my day and all interactions. And I ask from it for it to be from the start of the day to the end of the day, from the time I get up in the morning to the time I go to bed at night as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. So you're specifying , you're specifying your time as well. That's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I want it from this time to this time. <laugh> .
Speaker 1:That's great.
Speaker 2:No interlude. Thank you. <laugh> . Yeah,
Speaker 1:Because like, like, like you, I feel like as you move on through the spiritual journey , um, your guides will like send you different tests and lessons so that you can understand uh, different ways of protecting your energies and basically creating boundaries. And usually that really happens at the beginning of the journey, but as you progress to different levels of the journey as well, you can also , um, be tested with those boundaries or energy protections. So I think now I rarely ever actually do it myself or say that I'm gonna do it unless I know that I'm in a compromising position because I've basically specified to my guides that they need to do this. So , um, that's kind of a switch up from going, okay, please do this at this point in time. Um , but I'll also naturally think about it when, like if I'm entering a shopping center or something like that, they kind of like, it's kind of like a reminder, but they kind of do it themselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I've said, okay, you have permission to do this and I want you to do this all the time. It's like your role <laugh> , I always shut down my gifts. Um, whenever I am going into a space or when I'm around other people, I completely shut down my gifts, so I don't wanna know what they're doing, I don't wanna know where they're going, I don't wanna know who they're seeing. Um, and I think that's a part of, you know, as you move on in the journey, I think that that is a really good learning because the more you are , you are in that energy and taking in other people's energy, the more you are compromising your own health , um, and the more you're compromising your own energetic boundaries. So , um, and that's when you kind of become overwhelmed at the end of the day as well. If you're just tapping into everyone, it's too much
Speaker 2:For me, it's almost the opposite. It's like I have to tap into tune into it because I'm at that lower earth energy and grounded all the time. It takes for me to almost like intentionally make the effort to be like, oh, I wanna tune into some kind of energetic frequency or vibration or psychic development or like guide that that's the time to get like clear messaging or something. Like otherwise they're just coming through in everyday interactions, which for me is fine. I can shut that off and just ignore or move on or be like, yep , thanks and then get on with my day. It's not like a constant movie that I'm in all the time where I'm getting constant downloads and seeing information and it's exhausting and draining 24 7.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I think that's a part of moving on to the higher journey is that once you move on to that higher journey, it'll just switch off by itself. Mm .
Speaker 2:And you
Speaker 1:Kind of won't have to really do much at all. So if you do wanna open it, you can open it, but do you really wanna be tuning into everybody and everybody's energy? Because right now we're still really in icky time after covid Mm Mm-Hmm, <affirmative> . Um , and everyone's energy doesn't feel that great because most people don't tune into spiritual practices and most people aren't meditating and doing yoga and clearing their energy all the time. And therefore I think it just opens your energy up to energy vampires basically, and then, and then opens yourself up to sitting in that lower frequency field, which then, which then brings your energy down lower. So by containing your energy, you by setting your energy in the morning or at or at nighttime before you go to sleep, by setting that energy and setting that intention to be in loving higher great energies, you can make sure that you're above the threshold and your energy stays high. Whereas the opposite is when you're tapping into everybody's energies, you're sitting below the threshold because most people hold a lower frequency just in the community. Most people are holding a lower frequency and your frequency is higher, therefore you're constantly having to bring your energy down. I know you've kept connected in with Merlin quite a bit as we've spoken about this previously. Who is Merlin and what can he do to help us?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Merlin is an ascendant master and uh , he's come through as one of my guides during my journey. He's one of , uh, quite handful of you as well, but got a real specific energy about him. It's quite strong, it's very different to like the angel energies or frequencies that we've spoken about before. He's also known as the , uh, Senate Master McKeel McKeel deck , I think it is , you say . But yeah, quite often known as Merlin . Um, I like to say Merlin , it's a bit easier to say. Anyway, I Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> mean his other name's quite a mouthful. So <laugh>. Yeah. Um, yeah, so he is a powerful, energetic being from past time's gone. He's well known to bring in magic and the energy of powerful bringing things to life. So in this lifetime he can be used for people who are either entering onto the spiritual path or trying to bring things into a earthly realm as well. He's quite powerful for that in being able to , uh, make things eventuate like a magician almost . Mm-Hmm .
Speaker 1:<affirmative>
Speaker 2:Melon , the magician. He's got like quite a powerful presence, like a beard kind of wizard hat, almost like a Dumbledore type , uh, character from the spiritual realm. Yeah . And , um, really brings things to life. <laugh> .
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's what he reminded me of. Um, because when I, when I tap into him, he actually, he reminds me of Harry Potter.
Speaker 2:Mm .
Speaker 1:Definitely like being in , being in a Harry Potter story. And where I first met Mel Merlin was actually through you, so I knew that Merlin wasn't a part of, officially a part of my spiritual lineage or a part of my spiritual guides, but when I tapped into you, he came in through you and then he started coming in through me a bit later. Um , and I remember I was like, oh my God, it's Merlin here for you
Speaker 2:<laugh>. Yeah. And it's, it's funny how it comes through too , like , uh, it's probably like the second one because I think I had something similar with St . Germaine as well. Um, both of those came through at different points in my path as well. And through my clairvoyancy I kind of had snapshots of like maybe like a Google search in my mind's eye of like what their faces would look like. Yeah . And it was The intuition once again like that we were talking about to be like, what , who is that person? What are they? To go back and research and find out who they were ? So yeah, one when that happened with Merlin, I was very much like, whew , like a really strong peppermint breath of fresh air. I guess to kind of describe it, the listener when it comes through at this conversa two way conversation when he first came through for me that I was like, you need to pump this back a bit because it's full on . Like I can't cope with this right now. You need to like lessen the force a bit for me to be able to know that it's you. Like I get that it's you and you've come in like, you know, a bat outta hell to say, I'm here. I'm letting you know I'm here and I'm here to help, gonna make things happen. And yeah, he was very like a strong force to kind of come through. So now when he comes through, you know, it's a lot more subtle and it's a lot more like , uh, um, things like his name or like, you know, something to do with magic, things like that that'll make me go, oh, that's him. Like he's around again. Or like, yep . I can feel he's come through and bought something for me to know or to bring through for a client or you know, I'm working on my spiritual development or psychic development today. So he is bought through these messages for me that I'm working on to try and develop things further. So , um, yeah, it was really full on when he came through remote <laugh>.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I think he probably connects to me in a bit of a different way as well because I sort of, I watch um, a lot of those like old kind of fairytales type type movies and I connect with him through like the stories like King Arthur for example. Mm-Hmm.
Speaker 2:<affirmative>
Speaker 1:And also through his connection with the holy grail and his supernatural prophetic type of abilities. So I think he comes in differently for everyone, but he's a really great guide to have as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. Definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well thank you so much for coming in today. Thank you. Um , where can the listeners get in touch with you?
Speaker 2:So , uh, I have a website which is www.unearthedenergiesoroneword.com au and also Instagram, same name and I've got info on there . Um, I also have a little special intro offer for all the listeners on here for the month of November. If you quote magic to me when you get in contact, you can have an initial session for $111 , uh, for your first session with me. And then ongoing is normally $88 anyway for every other normal appointment after that. But it's down from $111 to $99 if you quit magic for our
Speaker 1:Session. Oh , I love that.
Speaker 2:I love that <laugh> .
Speaker 1:Well , have a great evening and Thank you. I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2:Thank you.