Mother Shadow, Zen Tea Ceremonies & Flower Essences with Jasmine of Solflower Seeds

Jasmine is a Sensitive Sol Mentor, Zen Meditation + Vibrational Healing Teacher, Flower Whisperer, Spirit Channel and Tea Ceremonialist. She facilitates ceremonies, workshops and courses teaching energetic healing Meditation Practices and how to enhance them with the vibrational tools of spirit guide communication, flower essences, herbal energetics and plant medicine.

Jasmine began her meditation journey in a Buddhist monastery as a student of Zen Vipassana and Dharma. She now guides sensitive sols and empaths to transmute the shadows of sensitivity and awaken the energy healer within - seeing sensitivity as a great superpower, not a weakness.

Jasmine holds gentle, safe space in spiritual mentorship of themes such as transmuting emotional overwhelm and over-stimulation into emotional freedom, nervous system regulation, Re-Mothering the inner child, nurturing self-kindness and self-compassion, energetic protection and hygiene, shadow integration and wholeness, ancestral and karmic healing, and harnessing your unique psychic energy healer gifts.

You can reach out to Jasmine of Solflower Seeds on Instagram @solflowerseeds or on her website solflowerseeds.com

In this podcast episode we talk about -

- Preparing the sacred space for the podcast with deep love and intention 
- Sharing spiritual rituals with the rose, cacao and plant medicine 
- Mary Magdalene and Yeshua frequency within sacred union 
- Kuan Yin medicine of the heart and deep compassion 
- Sacred ceremonies and the empathic healer 
- Integrating shadow through wholeness 
- Loving and honouring the shadow self 
- Tara Brach, mindfulness and buddhist tradition 
- The human spiritual teacher 
- Embracing not resisting the spiritual journey 
- The living pathway of the rose 
- The pathway of the lotus 
- Mother Mary and Kuan Yin 
- Karmic cycles and the dark night of the soul 
- Remembrance through our dharma and purpose 
- Christ all in, the crystalline frequency 
- Zen enlightenment and spiritual awakening 
- Kuan Yin and the Buddha 
- Life within the monastery 
- The divine feminine energy 
- The empath shadow journey teachings and lessons 
- Moving through energetic upgrades 
- The spiritual awakening journey for Mel 
- The holy family 
- Krishna's healing light 
- Connecting to our intuition 
- Taking action on our intuition 
- The spiritual awakening journey for Jasmine 
- The inner child, crystals and oracle cards 
- The ocean of awareness 
- Co-creation 
- Oprah - a tweetable moment 
- Plant and earth medicine consciousness
-  Kundalini yoga 
- Mary Magdalene and learning to ground 
- Clearing out the lower chakras 
- The re-mothering journey for Mel 
- Co-creation from the womb space 
- The flower essences, herbal energetics 
- The re-mothering journey for Jasmine 
- Shamanic training 
- Speaking to the plants 
- Learning how to ground the lower chakras and manifest into physical reality 
- Zen workshops, Grandmother Mugwort and shadow integration 
- Past lives and ancestral karma 

Follow Mel on Instagram: @therosemother

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:41

Today on the podcast, we have a very special guest, Jasmine . Jasmine is a sensitive soul mentor, zen meditation and vibrational healing teacher, flower whisperer, spirit channel, and tea ceremonialist. She facilitates ceremonies, workshops and courses, teaching energetic healing meditation practices, and how to enhance them with the vibrational tools of spirit, guide, communication, flower essences, herbal energetics, and plant medicine. Jasmine began her meditation journey in a Buddhist monastery as a student of Zen , ana and dharma . She now guides sensitive souls and empaths to transmute the shadows of sensitivity and awaken the energy healer within seeing sensitivity as a great superpower, not a weakness. Jasmine holds gentle, safe space in spiritual mentorship of themes such as transmuting, emotional overwhelm and overstimulation into emotional freedom, nervous system regulation, re mothering the inner child's maturing self-kindness and compassion, energetic protection and hygiene, shadow integration and wholeness, ancestral and karmic healing, and harnessing your unique psychic energy healer gifts. Welcome to the podcast today, Jasmine .

Speaker 2: 2:09

Thank you, Mel . It's an honor to be here today

Speaker 1: 2:13

And you as well. I know we've had such a beautiful introduction into this sacred space today. You've prepared , um, in a very sacred way, and so have I, and we've also given different offerings to each other. So I just wanna share a little bit about what I prepared for you for the podcast. So I actually had some beautiful peonies growing in the garden, and I infused those with some oils. So I have pure peony oil for you that I'm going to send you after the podcast. And also a beautiful rose cacao and , uh, some rose quartz crystals and some beautiful nettle tea. And so can you share a little bit about , um, what you prepared for before the podcast today?

Speaker 2: 3:12

So beautiful to meet in this divine way, and I love that , um, you've created so much , um, ritual and protocols before even stepping space into sharing all of these wisdoms out into the world for me. Um, I started the day with the intention to , um, sit with rose and cacao . They came through a few days ago to help me ground my energies and connect me to different plant medicine. There were flower senses involved, different flour and herbal oils that I've , um, made through different herbs in my garden, or created this beautiful altar with one n holding a baby. And I've got a hand painted Shira behind me. And yeah, I actually had a , um, self ceremony today before stepping into this co-creative space with you knowing that this opportunity would call a great deal of clearing and preparation to allow , um, my body vessel to hold the events amount of energy that's wanting to be birthed through us , um, today. So I had my own ceremony. I sat with the medicine , um, I felt into the guides and just really expanded , um, my own energy through all of the practices that I do so that I could feel all the things , um, but still remain centered amongst it all and not get overwhelmed, because when we do this energy work , um, if you are not allowing yourself to have guides and medicine and the earth and divine consciousness itself to hold you , um, it will be very difficult to channel anything <laugh> of such high frequency because you need that work first.

Speaker 1: 5:25

Yeah. And that's so beautiful because I feel like, you know, our spirits could already hear each other , um, while we were preparing, and also we had Mary Magdalene and UA come through as well to create a frequency for this podcast. And basically the topic of that was Sacred Union. Sacred Union is all about , uh, the union that you have with yourself and with your own heart , um, and your ability to be able to share that with others. I think that's a really , uh, beautiful way to start this podcast going back when I, you know, when we first started preparing for this podcast many, many weeks ago, I received this sacred message about you, which was, she's a wise mother, a medicine healer from the past who much like Qua Yin holds the space for others in the most authentic, deep and compassionate way. And she's spent so many lifetimes cultivating this temple of the heart that she vibrates pure love at the highest consciousness. The pathway that she walks has not been easy, but it is because of this that she is a light channel of deep integration and experience. So what does it mean to you to hold this deeply sacred space for others and to initiate and help them on their path of authentic healing and soul growth?

Speaker 2: 6:52

Wow, what a huge question. Um, I love it very juicy. So many things that come to mind, coming back to how we felt into the energy of union. And there's so many ways that we can look at duality and how that comes up. Um, GU is a beautiful space holder for seeing the oneness in duality or the , um, transcendence of duality where we're not saying that , um, black and white, feminine, masculine, human and divine, like all of those seemingly dualistic and opposite things. A lot of the time we feel they're conflicting and we can't hold space for both of them to feel soft and firm at the same time, or vulnerable and powerful. And this way of living that I've been initiated into teaches us how to step back and hold both and all and expand our sense of self to be able to be the space or the heart . Like the heart is such an integrative , um, place to exist because it can hold infinite space for all things to belong, things that don't make any sense and are quite polar opposites. So it's been a huge journey, I feel, from my childhood of not really understanding my sensitivity or even that that word existed , um, into now becoming a woman that can , um, own it as a power and see that I've chosen this soul path of having to feel everything, the great joys of celebrating the beauty of life with others and with all of the energies around me, and also the deep pain that comes from it, from feeling everything all at once all the time, and the intensity of those sensations in your body being overwhelming a lot of the time. So through my spiritual journey, it's been a very personal initiation into feeling it alive within my body and learn how to relate to it in a way that is non-identified and compassionate, the masculine of wise discernment and not being overwhelmed by it and entangled with it, and that Buddha energy and also the compassion of going, ah , this human life can be really painful, and that's okay. I can embrace it, but not be , um, drowning in in the suffering that's happening.

Speaker 1: 9:38

That's really beautiful. And your , you also hold that compassionate space for so many people when you do hold sacred ceremonies. So can you tell me a little bit about that and , uh, how has it evolved that you've been able to hold such a strong space?

Speaker 2: 10:00

I remember , um, growing up feeling isolated and overwhelmed by feeling everyone's energy all the time. And a lot of the initiation of being a sensitive soul and being an empathic healer, energy healer and sensing things from the unseen and other people's energy all the time is protection , um, and discernment. And the ana meditation and Zen Buddhism has helped me a lot with learning how to be that observer rather than feeling I am the feeling that I'm feeling. And slowly you grow that spaciousness between what you witness and how you respond to it. And a lot of the time it's non-reactivity. It's just feeling the discomfort and allowing it to pass you along, like clouds in the sky. So a lot of the spaces I hold , um, is really about granting people that experience of acknowledging the suffering or the challenge that they're currently facing, normalizing that, helping them release resistance, shame , um, identification, feeling that they are the thing that they're challenged by. And then slowly from that gentle space, rather than calling out their shadows, we're integrating them back into wholeness by not demonizing them, but showing our hearts , um, presence with them and allowing them to be heard and have their needs met. And then what happens is that shadow is reclaimed and we get to experience freedom from our shadows, not by bypassing them, but by loving them, by honoring them, by understanding them. I remember there was a , um, story that a teacher of mine had taught, I believe it was Tara Brock in my meditation training, but I may be wrong. And she spoke about mindfulness and this Buddhist tradition , um, of philosophy and understanding the nature of reality. It was this professor who was quite old, and he was about to give a lecture on , um, mindfulness. And as he got up to the podium and wanted to read , um, or start to speak about what he wanted to say, he went completely blank . And rather than repressing or shying away from the human experience of completely forgetting and having all of the flush of shame and embarrassment come up and just trying to ignore it, he allowed himself to lean into it and surrender to it and allow his awareness and compassion to be widened, to include that challenging moment, that shadow, that experience. And so what happened was he got up to the front and he said, and the , and the room was quiet and everyone was watching him, and he felt very overwhelmed. And he said, okay, I'm aware that I'm feeling nervous. I've forgotten what I'm meant to say. I'm feeling waves of embarrassment and shame and self-judgment. And the more that he spoke into what he was feeling and allowed it to be, the quicker it passed . And it's that saying of what you embrace dissipates and what you resist persists. So this practice truly allowed him to be vulnerable in that moment. And as it progressed, he started to regain his composure, and through that process, remember what he needed to say. Um, but before he started, there were people that were crying in the audience and someone raised their hand and said, wow , I've , um, we've never had a speaker like you before and had mindfulness shown to us in that way. Not spoken to us theoretically, but being given an energetic transmission through being able to live experience that shift in consciousness that this tool can allow us. Um, and that is the practice of having tea with our shadows, of allowing them to be guests in our lives because we are human beings, and in that way freeing us from their entanglement because they're all part of our life.

Speaker 1: 14:44

I love that. And the words that really came up to me when you were saying that was meeting humanness with humanness, and I feel like, you know, when you were talking about the pros , professor, the best teachers are the ones who can actually meet us in all of our humanness. They're not, they're not the ones who , um, sit above us. They're the ones that sit with us. Yeah. I feel like that's as well what you probably offer within your sacred ceremony and teach others to have this space of, you know, like you said, you know, verbalizing, whether it's in our mind or, or or truly verbalizing what's going on , um, and letting it move through rather than resisting it. Because I know very much, you know, even when I am addressing things, you know, perhaps I'm coming, coming through in a very direct manner, and that might be, that might actually be seen more as resistance rather than stepping back into my humanness and saying, okay, I'm just going to let this flow, let this energy flow and do what it needs to do and not have so much control over it.

Speaker 2: 15:58

I think it's such a powerful tool to not keep our shadows in repressed dark corners where they just grow more louder. And rather than being whispers of , um, Hey, I need loving attention and care and understanding right now because you've neglected me for so long due to shame or frustration or self-judgment or whatever , um, we're feeding greater power into those shadows and not being able to reclaim all of our light and all of the divinity that can be found in our human rawness. And those shadows become more like screams and we trip over the things we sweep under rugs and all of this yada yada stuff that happens when we just can't be truly ourselves with other people and see the complexity of the deep wisdom that resides in each one of us, and also the parts of us that are still growing and unconscious. And , um, that's why we're put on this earth to, to learn. So why are we putting ourselves and other people down unnecessarily when we're here to be imperfect and make mistakes and awaken from those states of non wholesome being ?

Speaker 1: 17:25

Yeah . And I feel like as well, like , uh, that's really the pathway of the living pathway of the rose . It's the rose showing us pedal by paddle , what we need to look at within. Um, it's really the journey of understanding and knowing ourselves better. And when we, the rose really mirrors that, the living path of the rose really mirrors that back to our soul, you know, we can, our shadows can start to come up if we, like you said, if we sit with them and we allow them to flow, we, we can pick off that pedal and we can go to the next, and we can go to the next one. And , uh, yeah. So the path of the rose , really, once we, once we work through those shadows , um, we can start to see, when we look in the mirror, start to see ourselves from a place of love and divinity , um, and not from , uh, a place of, you know, deeply held wounds.

Speaker 2: 18:28

And as soon as we can see them clearly, and we can love them, they're transformed. And that untapped potential of the shadows becomes part of our wholeness and actually transmutes into light and transmutes into clear understanding, clear seeing and peace, deep peace , um, amongst all of the challenges and adversities that we face. And one vision that came to mind just now is the teachings of Guin and <inaudible> , who is now more feminine goddess, but , um, traditionally a bit more male. And in my eyes , um, androgynous, I envision Guian as an ascended master who sits upon the top of a mountain in a lotus, able to be with all of the cries and suffering of humanity and holds space for all of that, but not be, again, identified with it, seeing from that spacious, expansive, higher perspective and going, ah , I can hold fully the illusion and pain of suffering from this place of truth because I'm not entangled in it. And , um, I can see that it is both impermanent and impersonal, and it's always just coming and going as a part of our open human experience. Um, and in that way there's a acceptance and an exhale into the kind of mystery of life.

Speaker 1: 20:09

Yeah. And what I saw, as you were saying, that was Juan Yin on, on one side, and she was holding the lotus flower and Mother Mary on the other side holding the rose . And so I feel like maybe it's, it's a balance between those two dualities. And so I do know quite a bit about the pathway of the rose, but, but what does the lotus represent? Mm-Hmm .

Speaker 2: 20:37

The lotus is really about, for me, alchemy, and there's so many , um, traditional stories in Zen from the monastery about , um, how can we clearly see and honor the mud and our shadows and see that things need, it's about karmic cycling and , um, seeing that when flowers die, they become rich, fertile soil. And there's so much untapped potential from the shadow realm, from the underworld that is seeking first , um, facing and then honoring and understanding and then transmutation. And a lot of the time we get lost in the dark night of the soul and just feel completely surrender to all the darkness that's coming through us. But from that comes the blossoming of this beautiful lotus of enlightenment and understanding and freedom. But there is a dualistic or symbiotic kind of yin yang element to them, because they can't really exist without the other, you can't know yourself as universal consciousness itself until you've forgotten. And that's kind of the , um, the human path and what we're here on earth school to learn. And through also Christ consciousness is seeing that , um, we're born into this human realm with amnesia from the soul contract that we chose to forget ourselves to remember ourselves again. And the pathway of how we remember ourselves is our dharma and our purpose. Everyone's got a very kind of slightly different unique core wounding and core trauma, or forget forgetting forgetfulness, and then the remembering and the healing and the transmutation of that. And the mud goes to lotus, and that's what we're brought here to learn for ourselves and then be able to share to others so they can remember who they really are. So there's a beauty in that, and there's a purpose in that. If we can expand past the duality and see the bigger picture,

Speaker 1: 22:52

That's really beautiful. Um, and when you said Christ frequency, I thought about , uh, the crystalline frequency, which is, which means Christ all in. And so it's, it's us you know, meeting, meeting, meeting ourselves from that space of divine love from our heart center, not from the social conditionings that we've had to work for , work through or , uh, or received earlier in life. Um, and so I feel like when we do work through all of this shadow work, or I could say, you know, there's showing me there's, there's the two paths here. There's, there's the path of the lotus and there's the path of the rose , and they both take us to the same destination, but they're, they're both equally important journeys and they run , uh, side by side as crystalline frequencies. And so when we look at these different dualities and meet ourselves from the perspective of, of quain or the perspective of, of Mother Mary , um, we can meet ourselves in more purity and more authenticity and then start to , uh, I guess formulate our own crystalline grid and project that out to others. Um, and I really strongly believe that we, we cannot do this work without going through the shadows. So if, if you have resisted working through those shadows or do find yourself in a block in life, I do think, as you said, surrendering to that place and allowing it to wave through is the way through, not , uh, even though you've got resistance, trying to even just take a first step in that direction,

Speaker 2: 24:49

I find , um, yeah, the, it's very interesting seeing that you've got two concepts , um, in Zen where there's sudden enlightenment and there's gradual enlightenment. Gradual would kind of fit in the paradigm that we're creating at the moment with the lotus, where there is a unconscious state and a conscious state. So the, the mud and then the lotus, and that's about awakening again and again and again. And there's like a switch in a way. And then you've got the rose, which is more sudden and full enlightenment where you are just melting back into the isness of this moment. And it's that surrender and that trust of , um, just coming back into flow with universal consciousness itself. And they are beautiful kind of feminine and masculine ways of working with the energies that , um, we're always constantly dancing , um, through. And sometimes when we become , um, balanced, off , balanced and concentrating on one, it can be , um, detrimental for us. I know if you're really into surrendering , um, and into the feminine work, it can become a bit more like inertia. And you don't know whether it's karmic conditioning that's leading you or whether this is something for your highest good when you do more masculine work of purification, basically, which is kind of Buddha's work. Um, and zen it can be very much like reiterating this subconscious belief that you are always a project or something that needs to be fixed, that you are broken and there's something that needs to occur for you to , um, heal. And so that's disempowering as well. And it's a kind of relative reality and an ultimate reality in how to combine the two of honoring I am divine , um, but I'm also a work in progress.

Speaker 1: 26:51

I love that. And so, so if we're talking about the masculine and the feminine, for me, both sides of work are equally important. And I know when you're pulled onto the divine feminine path, you can become very flowy and all that kind of thing, which I think is amazing, right? But there is a point in time where we, when we also need to ma to balance out this divine masculine. And so, so would you say that, you know , k yin is, is that rep representation of, of Buddha in , is in the masculine and the feminine, or is there another mother and father who were , who worked together within, within that consciousness?

Speaker 2: 27:38

I think K Yin is kind of, in my experience of the modesty that I was learning from there was a bit more leaning towards the masculinity and I had to step away , um, after a few years of learning from there because it started to become nihilistic. And um, like I had to give up all pleasures and I just felt so much aversion to self to parts that I still felt were me that were seeking actually more feminine, compassionate holding and feminine practices. And then I went into learning divination and , um, how to utilize Oracle cards and work with guides and all of the trusting my intuitive instinctual knowing. Um, and that was like more of a second phase of my awakening. But the first phase was more masculine, I would say guan y kind of is in how I've worked with them a bit more masculine, but also kind of in the middle because , um, compassion arises naturally when you can see the suffering and hold space with a open heart for all of the cries of the world. Um, but it comes from first acknowledging that you aren't the suffering and that way you are not holding the baggage of collective suffering on your shoulders from this, you know, small being that we constantly are, we're not always our larger higher self that is formless infinite awareness that can hold everything because we are nothing. There's the paradox there that the , um, initiation of this tradition allows for. But in our day-to-day, we aren't that , um, we're still learning <laugh> , we're still overwhelmed by certain things that happen to us in the day-to-day. So we can't possibly hold all of the breadth and depth of suffering in the world , um, and be free from it. It's about how you relate to it in , in a safe way. Other more masculine , um, spirit guides that I've worked with recently that have helped me , um, have been sacred. Um , tobacco macho and working with, yeah , Buddha, Jesus, their energies and trees, actually wise trees , um, redwood and pine, they hold this energy of teaching you what is yours and what isn't yours to hold in this current moment. And when you are starting to become a martyr and a bleeding heart for everybody else's issues and absorbing all of their emotional imbalances as an empath , um, that is not, they're like side quests, you know, your dharma here is to learn the core things that you are here to transmute and not go and , um, merge with other people and learn their lessons for them. We as empaths and sensitive souls can get very distracted by trying to resolve other people's karmic lessons. And then all these things of codependency and having poor energy protection , um, comes through and drains us of our life force. So a lot of their teachings are about wise discernment of what is yours and what isn't. What is in your highest good to accept as a challenge to transmute also Yeah, boundaries and being able to create this really safe, steady place for your feminine to play and create and flow and feel safe to be vulnerable and soft. And so I found when I was doing a lot of feminine work that me not being able to vocalize when I'm upset, when it's a no , um, being available energetically to people that I felt drained by all of those things were hindering my capacity to fully be in the power and gifts of my feminine. And I was, I had a big slap and big call and wake , yeah , wake up call , um, from all of these different teachers , um, to really be okay with polarizing other people and speak my truth even if I knew that it wasn't going to amount to connection and understanding , um, that, you know , the feminine is kind of more flowy and connective , um, and better in. So yeah, being able to back myself and back the things that I needed and would vocalize and take action upon those things , um, and feel safe within my own center, even amongst , um, not feeling safe and understood around other people, that has allowed me to be a lot more of a balanced person. And as my feminine energy rises, so can my masculine and that beautiful union that we've been talking about can actually blossom.

Speaker 1: 32:47

I was just thinking about all those early lessons of boundaries and <laugh> speaking the truth. And they're really, really difficult lessons to learn and , uh, take many, many years to learn. And I will say, as you progress on this path, those lessons get harder and harder and harder. They don't get easier, unfortunately. But what I've actually found is you can cope with them better. So that's the big difference between when you start out and you are getting all these lessons and tests in blocks and boundaries and difficult people or difficult clients or, you know, being faced with all of these different , uh, challenges or I would actually put it being faced with your mirror because everybody is a mirror and a teacher. Yeah. I feel like you've brought up some really good shadow aspects in that, in that earlier journey. And then let's talk about in the , uh, you know, as you've been on this path for some time, you still get the lessons, but they come in a little bit differently. So for example, as if said a million times on this podcast, my main guide is Mother Mary <laugh> . Um, I don't operate without her. And so her and the Holy Guides , um, one of them will come through and guide me on that. So for example, if I've received a big upgrade in energy, which I know we both have over the last month, and I know I've spoken to so many other women who have told me they've gone through who are space holders like us who have gone through the same upgrades. Um, and so I've, I've told them sort of what I've gone through, and then they've said, I, I feel that I know that because I've gone through that too. And so the difference between a beginner in that situation would be you might not understand what's happening and you might more see that as a trauma, or you might see it as, maybe this work's not for me, you know, because it's really difficult and I , I just can't hold that right now, but later on in the journey , um, so my holy guides will step in and they'll say, you are going to be receiving this new frequency. This is exactly what it is. You know what to do. You're going to have to surrender. You're going to have to rest while we bring it through. You're going to have to eat nourishing food. And I don't care what else you have on in your life or what you've planned over the last, over the next month, you won't be doing that because you'll be getting this upgrade in frequency and you'll have to do the work. And so I was put back in that place over the last month or two , uh, like you , uh, and I'm just gonna say I was actually put, so the difference is I can see that I'm being put to rest by the mother, and so I'll be taken to a little bit of a healing chamber, I'm gonna call it. And, and then we are given all these different frequencies and all these different tools. And then once those few months have finished, and um, I would've seen everything that was released from my body 'cause I'm highly clairvoyant. Um, and so once that's, once I've done all of that work, which is really, really hard, and I've received the messages and I write down the messages that they've told me , um, because they're going to be sort of my next step or my next upgrade, then they'll say, once I've received the upgrade, okay, in income's your test for your boundaries and your new protection, and I'll be given a new set and estate protection to be able to deal with this new frequency. And so if we put it in those steps, it feels a little different to the beginner who's starting out, who, who wouldn't have that, I guess, higher knowledge to be able to work through that. And so, you know, we're, we're talking a lot about higher guides. I work with the holy family mainly. Um, so Yeshua , Mary, Sarah Yeshu is also Jesus <laugh> , um, Sarah, Mary Magdalene, Anna, not as much Anna, but I do get her coming in sometimes. They're the main guides for me. And then I have some extra guides depending on what I'm going through. So for example , uh, today, <inaudible> stepped in for , for us , um, and helped me feel your love and compassion coming through. Um, and I know that's your guide. And so I also know that, that , uh, when I'm receiving one of your guides, they're also open to me working with them as well. Last week , uh, I had a beautiful new guide come through , uh, with another lady, and that was Krishna. I had not worked with Krishna before, and Krishna came to me and he said, you know, I'd love you to be able to learn to work with my healing frequency. And all of this blue light came through and I was for hours on end, I was in a <laugh> , this higher consciousness space of his blue light. And I just loved it so much. I had literally didn't wanna leave it. So I hope he comes back. That's giving a bit of permission to that. But I feel like when we're, when we're walking through our shadows, like you're saying, we need to connect in with our guides to be able to receive the in intuition about what's going on here. Because when we are disconnected, and that can, that can obviously happen in a very masculine space like you're saying, right? We can feel disconnected when we're in that masculine space, when we step into that feminine space, we can connect back into, into nature, connect back into our intuition, ask for guidance, ask for things to come through, and then the most important step, which could be a little bit more masculine, I don't know, I'll see what you think is taking that action <laugh> . You know, you've gotta be able to take the action once you've received it, because if they keep giving you information , um, I can tell you now that you will stay, you will stay right where that information is until you've heard it. Um, and then that becomes a block on the journey. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2: 39:15

Yeah. <laugh> .

Speaker 1: 39:17

Yeah. How does it come through? Like, I'd love to hear how it comes through, like for you, when you are gonna step into your shadow, what is it that, that , you know, what can you feel?

Speaker 2: 39:30

I definitely resonate with that . The more you go down this path, the more, not necessarily easier it gets, but the more you become familiar with the territory. Mm-Hmm , <affirmative> think that would be the word that that comes out. Because when you're experiencing purging, when you're experiencing upgrades , um, there's always gonna be the , um, two sides of the coin. You're gonna experience so much freedom and expansion and joy that , um, is uninhibited and doesn't come from anything but is just there. And you're gonna feel the darkness of separation from that and confusion. And the deeper and further along this path you go, the more tools you've developed so that when some load eventually falls on your shoulders, your muscle has become so strong that you can't feel it anymore. And you know that you've learned that lesson and you are ready to move on. And so your guides are always going to , um, be challenging you , um, from a place of love because they know that you're ready for the next phase, which will be harder <laugh>.

Speaker 1: 40:47

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 40:48

Um , your capacity to receive will be greater . Yeah . And we've like the, in the , I've had three phases of awakening. The first was more mental philosophical through , um, understanding the nature of reality through Buddhism and awareness and being really purist. Um , the , they're beautifully simplistic and purist, but they're very hard. It's a hard thing to learn the basics of not having attachment to any guides, any explanations, any colorful language , um, stories, whatever. It's just sit for hours and witness everything and learn how to have , um, non-attached relationship to all of your experience. It's a hard lesson , very kind of masculine and wisdom driven , um, understanding that then , um, becomes a dissolution into oneness. Um, so it's a kind of masculine into feminine , into the nothingness. Then I had the , um, second wave of , um, more emotional healing, connecting to my inner child and her needs. And , um, learning how to call upon , um, spiritual support from my guides, working with crystals, working with cards and divination tools, and honing in my capacity to trust and feel my intuition and allow that to guide me. And then the third phase has been the one that I'm in now is a lot more about the body and the earth and creating safety within my body , um, to receive and to ground my energy working with denser energies, basically. So starting from very high vibrational, very subtle energies , um, that are, you know, kind of expanding the realm of consciousness and very kind of astral and then beyond. Um, and then slowly getting more and more dense into the body and feeling so much pain and stuff come up. Um, and yeah, being able to have that aha moment of going, ah , yes, I know that this challenge is coming up for my good. And if you can allow yourself to , um, be larger than it, your sense of self and your awareness, be spacious enough to go, ah , like this is what's happening. That's an empowering switch. So we're no longer victim to , um, whatever the collective is going through and the upgrades that are needed. And, you know, just being thrown around in the ocean wave after wave, we can expand out into being the ocean of awareness and see , uh, the wave is coming. Let me call upon the tools and the practices that I've been cultivating every day through my integration in this way of life , um, through working with different plants, herbs, oils, yeah. Through different energy guides. Um, through leaning on our community for support as well. That one has been coming in strongly for me as a little hermit sensitive soul <laugh> . Um , being able to find like pure hearted loving individuals to, to hold me through those times and go, yes, I see you and this is valid, and we can hold this together. Allowing myself to be held and for my soul to feel that it's expanding out into a co-creation of being held , um, by human beings and not just spirit guides has been so life-changing because it conflicts with my body's capacity and deep held woundings of feeling unsafe , um, and not belonging in a bodily way. So being able to merge spirit and body by a thing that I do often is when I feel something's happening through me, usually around the time I bleed as well. 'cause we're so cyclic as women emotionally or physically, when I'm feeling unwell or feeling not myself every night before I go to bed, I, I set that intention and that I feel is a bit more masculine because it's the, the clarity and the decision to do something about it and the capacity to face the discomfort and the challenge or the fear. I have courage. And then the after that is the allowing right of the feminine. So calling in my guides for energetic upgrades and or not even upgrades sometimes it's just like, guides, can you help me hold this because it's so uncomfortable right now? And can I receive healing? And then there'll be times where I'm like, I feel something is coming. Can we get upgrades and guidance? And , um, I give permission and I'm open to feeling any kind of messages come through over the week. And the thing that has really helped me the most, because I'm this person when I was young, wanting everything all at once, is being really gentle with yourself and saying, can I re , if you're feeling very vulnerable , um, and overwhelmed, you can say, can I receive this as gently and compassionately as possible? That has shifted so much. 'cause the amount of times where I've received upgrades and just gotten like, slapped around and just felt so overwhelmed by it , um, and exhausted by it, the gentle and softness and the, you know, titration of drip by drip , can I have support slowly, has really allowed me to be more trauma sensitive and formed in how I receive help energetically as well.

Speaker 1: 46:47

And I think , uh, with what you said was, I think Oprah would describe it as a tweetable moment. <laugh>, we are not victim to this spiritual path. We are not victim of to the things that are happening to us. And so when we , uh, dedicate ourselves to this path and we are open to learning the tools, and we're open to listening and we're open to connecting to our intuition, and we're open to, you know, all the beautiful things that come in , uh, on this journey , um, we, we then lose that, use that state of victimness, don't we? We become empowered. We can use all these different things. Um, the universe definitely doesn't require us to walk this path alone. And neither does it require us to walk this path through a space of trauma either. You know, we are always held and we're always loved and we're always supported. And I loved that part that you mentioned, that you actually asked for it in a specific way now, because you know what ? That's, that's the whole point. It's about you and it's about how you would like to receive all of this different, all of these different things. And uh, that's what , that's exactly what you can do when you've built up a good communication with your guys and you build that relationship up, you can communicate with them and say, this is how I would like to receive it, or hang on, I'm actually not going to receive that right now because I have too much going on in my life that's gonna be there when I'm ready to receive it. And that was one of the things that I actually asked the guides during this podcast. I could feel that there was a really strong activation, another one coming through my throat, <laugh> Jasmine's energy has given me , um, so many beautiful things. And one of those is, is some clearings today. And I could feel that energy coming through my throat and I said, please, can you just leave it until the end of the podcast because otherwise I'm gonna be coughing and it's gonna be irritated. So they've settled that down a little bit, but I think that's the point, right? We are not, we are not a victim when we have the tools.

Speaker 2: 49:09

Working with plant medicine has been a huge teacher in being trauma informed because plant medicine is more of a dense energy because it's from the earth and body and it can shift you into a really different state of consciousness very quickly. And when you are used to feeling everything all the time anyways, and you're highly perceptive or you are, you know, a healer, it can create such an intense shift in your experience that you feel your soul split. And it can be very traumatic and it will take a long time longer than most for you to reintegrate that experience and understand it. It could be very challenging because it's just stimulating so much lower vibrational life force. Not that lower vibrational is negative. It's part of how we operate physically, and we need to learn how to clear out some of the physical , um, imbalances that we have in not feeling safe or grounded or healthy in this body. But what I've learned as a sensitive person is not all medicine is for me, I need to say no and be able to honor it and not be manipulated into, or manipulate myself into convincing myself that I can do it or that I have to do it or I need to prove something. Um, being able to lower my dosage. So working with the elements and especially fire as well. Fire one of fire's , um, element of fire's teachings is modulation. So when we're , um, at a safe distance, but kind of in proximity to fire, it's such a warm, beautiful, safe feeling. It's , uh, protective and , um, passionate and , um, we melt kind of feeling. But when we are too close, it is so activating and challenging and there's so much friction sensationally in our body. So one lesson I've learned is that you have agency when trauma happens. It's because we didn't have control. It's something that happened to us and we felt overwhelmed by our capacity to respond. So agency is really important because now we can modulate how much we would like and how little we would like, and how fast and how slow all of these things and put down those boundaries that are actually the more we get used to our boundaries. Very , um, they're not rigid boundaries. They're kind of flexible, depending on honoring every single moment that we feel right now. If we feel we can have some more, we can. So working with different , um, plant medicines have , um, really taught me about how to receive healing from the earth that, you know , is as most , um, beneficial for my highest good and as most compassionate as possible. And that I'm actually an active co-creator in the experience of learning and dancing with that plant, rather than just being a passive bystander that allows things to happen to me, which is not empowering at all. You're a sovereign being here to learn and you don't have to do things that you don't want to, or you have the choice to do it in the way that you feel gives you the most , um, pleasurable , um, joyful and consensual <laugh> experience. So very deep teachings from the earth.

Speaker 1: 52:49

Yeah, and I really resonate with , um, what you've just said about connecting in and connecting in with that denser energy this year, because I love my yoga and I love my kundalini yoga, and it makes me as high as a kite. I will tell you, I've have actually been asked to step away quite a lot from that this year. And it's been difficult because that's space that I love to be in. But Mary Magdalene has really stepped forward for me over the last two years and has really taught me to work from this earthly space and cleared out my lower chakras, and we've done a lot of grounding work. Um, and , uh, yeah , so I can really relate to that, to coming back to those , uh, the , that earthly presence. And I think that's also because, you know, 2024 , um, we have to hold a different space. Um, it's not gonna be the same space that we've held over the, you know, and the same challenges that we've had over the last five years. We are going to need to be more grounded in our energy , um, and have cleared out that, that , uh, lower chakra trauma , um, which can be really difficult. So, you know, I'm just wondering, you know, that kind of makes me think about this topic of re mothering because I feel like Mary Magdalene has in a way re mothered me from , uh, the ground up. You know, I've had so many teachings over the years from Mary, mother Mary, and as you know, she holds a beautiful essence, you know, in the, in the higher chakras. But , uh, I've had the re mothering in the lower chakras, which, so a a lot of people have , uh, they have a preference of where they work from, right? And my preference has always been to work from the higher area, because that's what I've been doing really since I was a child. So , um, it's, you know, I'm, I'm, I have so much Pisces Energy in my chart, and so I've been a teacher to that for so long and you know, as I've been told in many past lives as well. So that's so easy for me. But when I've gotta come into this grounding earth energy, it can be really difficult. And so she has given me this space of re mothering over the last few years, and I can slowly feel , uh, the, this meeting. So I believe that from what I've seen, there's , there's a midpoint and , uh, there's a midpoint within the body, and the higher and the lower frequencies can meet each other. And I think it's how well you can learn to balance those is really , uh, how well you are going to be able to connect into your intuition , um, and live , uh, I guess this spiritual journey from a very grounded space. Because a part of her work is teaching us how to co-create from the womb space. Um, and as you were talking about this, this, this essence of co-creation and, and creating with these flower essences, which, you know, to me, the flower essence, every flower has a goddess or a mother that corresponds with it, with and with that , that vibration. So we've really been led back to that space this year, and it's been difficult for me without those practices, but I've had to learn other practices , uh, which has been really great as well. Um, but I can feel, I'm being called back to, back to the Kundalini as well, very slowly, but they're like, take it slowly, don't take it fast, because all these different integrations, you know, as I said, that's, that's a two year integration for me with Mary Magdalene. That's not a couple of weeks. Um, so when I'm gonna be moving back into those high frequencies , um, and doing Kundalini again, I'll probably only start with 15 or 20 minutes a day. So how does the re mothering come in for you? And I know that you've also held the space of re mothering for other people , um, and you also offer these beautiful , uh, ceremonial tea teas as well , um, along with the flower essences. So how does the re mothering come in for you?

Speaker 2: 57:12

I really resonate with , uh, that my comfort zone would be more the upper chakras. Um, and it took a while to feel how I could not really , um, exist physically as a human being with all of the shifts that I felt in those upper chakras without clearing the trauma of my lower chakras. I could , I was so ungrounded, I was always stuck in astral and like daydreaming and just like not being a productive member of society in a human way, quote unquote . And , um, you know, just having <laugh> all of these realizations and shifts in my reality and feeling more peace of mind, but then not necessarily sharing that out into the world for so many different reasons. Um, and so then there was a split in a way from the upper , um, lower parts of my body. Um, and the more that I've done work with herbal energetics, because like you said, each herb, each plant, each flower has their own spirit guide. And I came and stumbled upon , um, shamanic training and learning how to hold space and ceremony , um, and realize that all of the skills I'd learn from connecting with the spirits , um, of ascended masters, angelic realms, galactic realms, Syrian star seeds , um, past lives in Atlantis and Le Mi and et cetera , that I could use those skills to speak to the plants as well. And they have very specific energetic signatures that they teach us and initiate us into. But it's a slow medicine because the energy of these plants is a lower vibrational frequency. It , um, allows us to clear those lower chakras of feeling centered within ourself and able to have stability. One thing I would always have with the upper chakras was feeling like I couldn't stabilize everything I was feeling. I would have an experience and it wouldn't be fully integrated in my , um, whole reality of how I was living life and moving through the world. But now so many things have manifested physically from my connection and work with different teas. So with re mothering , um, this tea ceremony and , um, zen meditation immersion and workshop that I was facilitating, which will be , um, reintegrated and changed into a mentorship , um, in about, i , I feel it's coming in 2025, so not next year, but the year after. It's a lot of moving parts in that. But that part of my work was really about integrating so many different tools into one experience. Um, we had space holders of grandmother mug Watt who holds the energy of the witchy chrome <laugh> . She's a beautiful , um, guide in shadow integration. And she was the first plant , um, spirit that came to me and allowed me to communicate with all of the flowers and the flower essences that I work with. She is for shadow integration and psychic protection and lucid dreaming and allowing us to go into the underworld. And she's that witch that goes, you have nothing to be scared of, child, be brave. Let me take you there to meet all of your shadows and you know, I'm not gonna do the work for you, but I trust you that you know what to do and you have all the tools. So she is that space holder , um, that is a bit masculine in the protective side. Um, she's not like the soft , uh, loving mother . She's more like, you know, a bit bossy and talkative <laugh>, but , um, she gets you to do the work she believes in you. She has that validation that masculinity does, but also she's holding space. So there's a lot of feminine work in the shadow. She helps us. She's a Chinese medicine herb and many other ancient traditions. She allows us to move qi and clear stuck energy, particularly trauma, and she's very potent for the womb. So once I started working with her, I had so many visions of past lives being a medicine doctor, like ma male past lives , um, especially working with , um, mug wart smoke and herbs, and she's just helped me a lot with healing the emotional suppression and ancestral karma that I had in my room of being able to create from an aligned place. There was just a lot of masculine energy of , um, force and , um, non pleasurable self-sacrificing , um, perfectionistic tendencies , um, a lot of gut issues and overthinking and it coming from an intellectual place , um, coming from an egoic place of what it needs to be rather than allowing things to come through the portal of my sacred temple. Um, so many sessions of crying and releasing and feeling like a woman of the world, and that whatever's clearing from me is clearing from the collective as well. And yeah, a lot of grief and a lot of pain and a lot of suffering for what women have gone through over millennia, all of that suffering. Um, all of that emotional abandonment and abuse , um, and sexual as well. So , um, the other space holder and plant tea that we work with in the ceremony is Rose, mother Rose. And , um, whilst Mugwort has this linear moving energy that's helping us flush things out and come back into flow , um, and clear shadows, rose has this very diffuse, expanding soft energy that allows us to surrender to the discomfort of whatever's moving through us and come back into trust of love and being held again and releasing all the pain and fear. So I work with, I think one of my main guides is actually Anna Grandmother of Jesus. She was a medicine woman. She was , um, a kind of secret , um, background part of their scene , um, tradition that allowed , um, the birth of Mary to happen and then therefore Jesus. So she was setting up the grid for all of that stuff to happen. And she was both a wisdom keeper with the men in the caves , um, in charge of sharing and translating , um, many different wisdom teachings. And also she was a midwife and medicine woman who worked with plants and medicinal healing. So she comes through in that workshop as well as Marian , as well as <inaudible> . And they're all holding space for us to go into our inner child, which I feel is in my sacral, in my womb. And it's that innocent, pure, vulnerable, beautiful light of energy of that, you know, I vision the child's twinkling eyes and when they're hurt, they're so hurt, and when they're happy, they're so happy, it's unfiltered, it's raw, and it's about how we can honor the vulnerabilities and desires and dreams of this untainted innocent pair of eyes. And so when we do re mothering the inner child work, we have the sana , which helps us to , um, investigate into where it is in our body, how it, how the trauma is presenting, and asking the right questions in compassion, meditation and energy work, and asking the, the, the tea to help us and our spirit guides to say, Hey , um, I know you're feeling anger right now and it's in your stomach. Can we hold space for this? What is underneath this? Usually it's fear, like a lot of challenging emotions boil down to fear. And then it's like, okay, what does that part of us need? Rather than antagonizing it or shaming it or feeling overwhelmed by it being the mother of that child and giving that child the non-reactive, safe, compassionate, caring, curiosity existing as that larger space so that inner child can be small and blossom and show its true feelings , um, and honoring your real human emotions. Um , there, that's part of the unraveling, so that that child can feel soothed and get the nurturing, it's always needed and have its deeper needs met. Because underneath all of the issues that are happening in our lives , um, that may manifest externally or internally, depending on how aware you are, mirroring, like you were saying, is an unmet need, is a need for belonging, validation, respect. If you have anger, a lot of the time you've had your boundaries , um, disrespected , um, or you need more protection of yourself from other people or a situation , um, when you feel sad, there's an honoring of grief that needs to happen and so that you can accept what was before and what is now so you can move on. So hidden underneath all these emotions, energy and motion is a sacred invitation from our inner child to really reclaim , um, suppressed parts of ourselves that just need love and just need witnessing. At the end of the day, we are not here to disrupt the child , um, natural healing tendencies. Our bodies have a natural intelligence and universal intelligence, and if we can allow them the space through these practices to just witness them and allow them to , um, heal themselves, they can feel their own power. So it's not about like trying to fix it or analyze it or solve it or do the work for that inner child. It's about being the mother and saying, holding that beautiful energy of, ah , this is anger, ah , this is pain, you are valid. Um, let me hold you with love and we can hold it together. And slowly that child can sue itself because it begins to resonate with the part of you that is loving awareness. You stay as that loving awareness and then that part that feels separate from it, scared, hurt, et cetera, it can start to find its own way home again. And then we re mothered that part of us that always needed extra care that we didn't know how to hold. So it's a very powerful emotional regulation tool, but it's a deeply spiritual tool as well, because we get to reclaim our wholeness.

Speaker 1: 1:09:18

When did this spiritual calling come to you and when was that decision for you to, to step onto the spiritual path and, and be able to walk into these different , uh, different things that, that you offer, you know, step into your soul work ?

Speaker 2: 1:09:39

I started with , um, being a very curious child and wanting to know why for everything. And so I actually started, started because schooling only allowed the opportunity to learn science to , for that being the answer to things and why things were and how to live a good life. So that found me in , um, being at university, learning anatomy, physiology, cutting up cadavers , um, crazy stuff, wild stuff, volunteering at neuroscience labs , um, and only just starting to hear that meditation was slowly making its way through into science, but not really quenching that need deep down for me about why things were and the more deeper down science I went, you know, empirical evidence and all of that. It's more about questions than answers, right? It's more about , um, all the things we don't know. And I realized that the answer wasn't here for me in this kind of paradigm. Um, my godmother, my auntie, who was my godmother, Corina, she was the one who kind of showed me a different way of being. I was lucky in that my initiation and awakening wasn't from hitting a , a rock bottom as so many people have and finding that there needs to be another way. It was a bit more of a positive experience in that I remember her , um, in my childhood as being this older sister kind of figure that I would get very fiery and annoyed with being a Leo rising and her being a Leo. Um, we would just always devolve into like getting angry at each other. And she went to Singapore for a few years and came back a different person, and I said, what do you know that I don't know . Tell me everything. <laugh> <laugh> . I was like, you are so different. <laugh> . No longer was she this irritating teacher for me, but um, rather someone to facilitate , um, a new way of seeing things. So she told me about , um, a llama who she was learning from, who was a comparative , um, Eastern religion professor and would teach philosophy through the lens of Buddhism, yoga and Hinduism. And , um, I went to one of his retreats with her and um, his partner as well, and had this profound awakening. I was sitting in the hall and he was speaking about the nature of reality and , um, the path of eastern philosophy and freedom from your suffering and realizing you just really mind me. I don't know if I can swear, but my mind was blown and ev I had this huge sense of peace come through , um, in that I finally had a sort of compass in life and explanations to questions that I've always had and didn't even know I had. Um, it was like there was only me and him in the room and everything he said I felt truly that I had heard before. And that's when I started believing in past lives because I knew in this body, I had not heard that before, but I felt this familiarity that was just beyond , um, and I was just locked into everything he was saying , um, from these tradi traditions and , um, all the wisdom traditions. So I followed this path of meditation and um, it led me to leaving university and studying deeper. And it gave me a sense of both peace and also grief and acceptance of how far I had to go, because now I had this path laid out in front of me that offered what I so desired and showed me also the things that were holding me back, which at that point in time was me being so hard on myself and so cruel to myself , um, and being hypercritical at that point because if you are training in science and have this idea of wanting to become a doctor or being very high achieving, it can be a lot of density in that self-judgment and critical pushing and pushing and perfecting and achieving. So it was very tiring. I had a lot of anxiety and meditation was my first love. And it is the deepest , um, training that I have because it underlies all the work I do. It's the reason why I can sense spirits. It's the reason why I get messages. It's the reason why I feel energy so vividly, but also so clearly now over time it's purified , um, and not been overwhelming, but also been very truthful in what I receive , um, and allowed me to be an energy healer for myself and therefore hold space for other people through so many tools, through sound drumming, crystal balls , um, helping people connect to plant spirits and hear them , um, matching them to matching the flower spirits and flower senses to their people and what emotional and energetic imbalances that they're needing right now to clear and creating a , a space through ceremonial work and through workshops that give people that experience of taking them where they are and including that and opening up that into a new reality of what it could be.

Speaker 1: 1:15:41

Where can people find you and connect with your offerings?

Speaker 2: 1:15:45

So you can find me on Instagram. Um, my Instagram name is Soul Flower Seeds , um, which comes from a lot of the stuff we've spoken about, planting that seed of awakening and blossoming through all the flowers as well, which is funny because I chose that name before I initiated with flower essences and realize the synchronicity between my name , um, Jasmine and all the flowers as well. Um, if you would like to follow the journey and channel messages and be updated about events , um, rituals as well that I show practices for energy , energy meditation. Um, also I'll be launching my new website. I currently have an old one at the moment, my new website , um, you can find on my Instagram as well. Um , but next year I'll have , um, some exciting new offerings , um, which will be a flower essence making workshop and tea ceremony , um, where I'll teach you divination tools and plant spirit communication so that you can , um, be matched energetically to your flower guides, make your own custom blend, and then take them with me in ceremony with , um, mug wood and roast tea and have a journey , um, through different energetic attunement, meditations and sound. And then also a , um, tea ceremony offering as well for those who just prefer to receive and not be more interactive with making. So they're going to be , um, launched and shared , um, sometime early next year. And I also do , um, a collaboration with my partner Simon , who is a beautiful and powerful shamanic cacao ceremonialist. We hold cacao ceremony together , um, and I hold space for , um, the meditation channeling , um, portion. He holds space for the cacao blessing, and together we hold space for the sound and energy healing that comes through. And we usually , um, pair the cacao with a flower, a medicinal flower infusion and flower essences that are relevant to the energy of that group, which is , um, a little intuition ritual we do before we have ceremony to feel into what energies want to be birthed through us. So every ceremony that I hold and I hold with my partner as well is very intuitively held according to the energetic needs that I attune into and feel into through my guides as well on that day. And , um, you never really know what is gonna come through in any of those offerings. Also, I will, I , um, have an eight week , um, zen ana course, which is about , um, Buddhist philosophy and learning just the real core basics of Vipassana as a way of self-awareness and self-energy healing. And that incorporates also compassion practices. We look into somatic resourcing and a little bit of compassion in a child integration and trauma sensitivity, and working with , um, wounding patterns through meditation as well. That's an online course. And there will be other offerings that I'll be launching , um, in the next year's mentorship , um, sharing all of the practices that have been woven and developed over time.