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chatting with me."},{"speaker":"Christopher Gerteisen","startTime":2368.15,"endTime":2369.08,"body":"Thanks for having us, Mike."},{"speaker":"Christopher Gerteisen","startTime":2369.11,"endTime":2372.11,"body":"And I look forward to doing this again."},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2372.38,"endTime":2373.16,"body":"Yeah, for sure."},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2373.58,"endTime":2374.12,"body":"Aloha."}]}