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today."},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2419.65,"endTime":2420.61,"body":"Oh, thank"},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2419.65,"endTime":2420.61,"body":"you so much for having me."},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2420.61,"endTime":2421.18,"body":"I really appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2421.18,"endTime":2421.85,"body":"And yeah, it's 2am."},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2421.85,"endTime":2423.19,"body":"so hopefully that was okay."},{"speaker":"Anthony Fatseas","startTime":2423.79,"endTime":2425.83,"body":"It wasn't putting everyone on sleep."},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2425.853,"endTime":2427.076,"body":"You"},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2425.853,"endTime":2427.076,"body":"need to put yourself to sleep."},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2427.076,"endTime":2430.286,"body":"So you have yourself a good"},{"speaker":"Average Joe Finances","startTime":2427.076,"endTime":2430.286,"body":"night and Aloha from Hawaii."}]}