“Revenge is a dish best served cold” Join your favorite D.I.V.A assassins as we break down Kill Bill Volumes 1 and 2. We’ll breakdown each chapter and characters as well as go into our favorite scenes, quotes and trivia! So come us because we are going to KILL BILL!
“Revenge is a dish best served cold” Join your favorite D.I.V.A assassins as we break down Kill Bill Volumes 1 and 2. We’ll breakdown each chapter and characters as well as go into our favorite scenes, quotes and trivia! So come us because we are going to KILL BILL!
What's up? My favorite assassins. It's me.
Aaron:Ashley. Hello friends. This is Aaron. How it's Garrett.
Ashley:And listening to nostalgic sucker
Aaron:that makes me wanna kill somebody when I hear
Ashley:What were you gonna say
Aaron:yeah, I was gonna say that, we're coming to you from all over the country, Ashley representing the south and Texas Garrett west in Seattle. And I don't really know where Kentucky's at. yeah the south thinks we're the north and the north thinks we're the south and Nobody wants=us
Garret:I think at one point you guys were And so that's why you're still kind of the south even though you're not really
Aaron:Yeah, nobody claims us we're our own. but what are we talking about today?
Garret:Kill bill
Aaron:We're talking everything. Kill bill. We're gonna talk about the cast, how it's made go over the chapters and talk about our favorite scenes and see what you guys think.
Garret:And we're gonna go over volume one and two. Cause technically it is one movie.
Aaron:But it feels like two movies
Garret:it kind of does.
Aaron:So before that, we usually like to go over some nostalgic news, some things that are going on from our past that are, here in the future or the present wherever you're at. mainly I, I have a lot of reboots, I saw that they were making a reboot of night court.
Garret:I thought it was a revival and not a reboot.
Aaron:okay. You're right. So these are mostly revivals. Okay. Yeah.
Ashley:Is bull still alive?
Garret:I think so.
Aaron:is he
Garret:I hope he is.
Aaron:I think the only one left is the lawyer
Garret:No, Charles Richard mall is still alive. He's 79. He was born in 43.
Aaron:Is it gonna be on the show? it's gonna be the oldest bailiff ever
Garret:I hope so, man. His voice, I have an appreciation for anybody that was on Batman, the animated series. And he was the voice of Harvey dent slash two face. my heart has special places for each of those actors.
Aaron:not only did we teach you all things, we teach each other things every day.. Mm-hmm they're also doing a revival of Fraser, which I never really cared for, but.
Garret:My mom loved it.
Ashley:I never watched Frazier. I remember him from, cheers and I didn't really even like him one, so,
Aaron:I like cheers though, but probably cuz it was the only channel we ever got. So that's what I had to watch There's also a revival of Fraggle rock, an animated series.
Garret:No, really?
Aaron:Yes. And then reading rainbow, and they're trying to bring the original guy back.
Garret:Lava Burton.
Aaron:Yeah. The guy that, the braid thing on star track he really good. I saw him not too long on interview
Ashley:it does look good. I thought I heard recently that that was gonna be a web series Did you hear anything about that?
Aaron:I just saw a series, I don't really know.
Ashley:Yeah. I don't know how good that source was My facts are optional the next one is, mystery science theater, 3000. They were trying to bring
Garret:that back. I never got into that man.
Aaron:I did just because the old, cheesy movies, the bad jokes, it was just my type of humor, uh, I think we may have talked about this though. Bison Butthead. They're reviving that
Garret:I don't know if I could watch the
Ashley:Dustin just watched bison Butthead do the universe or whatever.
Garret:That's what it is. I think,
Aaron:no this was the show
Garret:Oh
Ashley:you know, our mom canceled cable because of these, but, baseball. Cause we started saying spank the monkey and she was like, do you even know what that is? And I'm not sure that we did, but she's
Aaron:like, where did you hear that? Oh, we knew what it was I don't think I did. Speaking of S and Butthead, they are making a series of Daria's best friend, Jody. I don't really remember her from the show. I remember Dar her best friend's name was Jane. This is his Jody. So, and then in the movie category, I saw that they're redoing. They are making a prequel called rise of the pink ladies. Wow. I'm sure they'll have 40 year olds playing 18 year olds again,
Ashley:Yeah. It'll be a prequel, but that doesn't mean they're
Aaron:actually gonna be their age. Right. It's probably the same actors, you know? Some, recent death. James Khan died at 82. Don't remember him from the godfather and
Garret:oh yeah. I thought it was, is it K
Aaron:or can I always thought it was K C a a N. So
Garret:I thought his, his son, I thought was like, Scott can keen. I don't know. Now somebody
Aaron:me.
Ashley:Siri
Aaron:Well, he's dead. so One of the, original members of Bon Jovi, Alec, John SU, he just passed away at 70. Damn. do you remember Brad Johnson from Melrose's place? He was also the original Marro, man. He just passed the age of 62. If you saw his face, you would know him. Damn
Garret:That's kind of young though
Aaron:And then do you remember Fred ward from the movie tremors? You'll probably remember him from remember Florida, right? Yes. I do he just recently passed away at 79.
Garret:Yeah. He was a daddy. Wasn't he? Sorry, when I say daddy, I mean hot
Ashley:Yeah we both stopped
Aaron:I was I'd say he probably had kids but I don't
Garret:I was like oh wait I I'm I'm with straights I need to
Ashley:Uh yeah Reel in a little bit there Ru Paul
Garret:I said it at work the other day and they were like, daddy, what do you mean? I had to explain it. it was funny.
Aaron:So some birthdays this month Dan Aroy turned 70, Pamela Anderson turned 55. Lindsay Lohan is 36. Tom cruise is 60. Lindsay Lohan. I know she feels like she's like six,
Garret:no, dude. She cocaine like she snorted away at least 20 years Oh, easily
Aaron:girl. Hopefully she's got it together though
Garret:I hope so
Aaron:we're rooting for you Lindsay let's see. Sylvester Stallone is 76. 50 cent turned 47.
Ashley:three years It's like it'd be 57 50
Aaron:almost there 50 your birthday. Tom Hanks is 66. Fred Savage from, the wonder years is 46 years old. Oh man.
Ashley:he's on a show that I was watching called, friends from college but I think he
Garret:there's sexual misconduct allegations against him. I think he got, I was like
Aaron:booted Sorry. Yeah, he's
Ashley:canceled. We don't. We
Aaron:don't. Yeah. Well, speaking of canceled, OJ Simpson is 75. uh, Harrison Ford turned 80 this month. Ooh, 80. Wow. 80. I know Han solo is 80 years. cheat is 76. I thought he was older than that, to be honest with you.
Ashley:So did I? Yeah, I thought he would be older than Harrison
Aaron:before. Mm-hmm two. Wow. Brian Austin, green is 49. JLo is 52, which she looks way younger. She looks really good. Crazy, man. She just got married. I think we talked about that on the
Ashley:last Vegas. Yeah, I don't think we did, but she uh no
Garret:they just got married. I think like yesterday
Aaron:Well I think we talked about bene
Ashley:We made a joke about her being married 300 sometimes.
Garret:Oh, that's true. I think this is
Aaron:405. keep the streak alive. Matt LaBlanc from friends 54 and that's it.
Garret:not that I think that it's because I don't know if you know this, but he had to dye his hair almost of the entire series cuz he was going gray.
Aaron:Oh I didn't know that two more Elizabeth Berkeley from say by the bell is 49. And show girls, if you show girls, that's what I wanna say.
Ashley:boobies
Aaron:that was the air force thing The showgirl Watch that movie in slow motion and The RZA who we're gonna be talking about here pretty soon is 53. Yeah, we are mm-hmm So that's our deaths and birthdays, unless you guys had any to add.
Ashley:mm-hmm I was just thinking about Tom Hanks today. Cuz we're we were watching for gum
Aaron:that is one of my favorite movies ever. it's timeless classic movie. But we're talking about another movie, two movies, one movie, however you wanna do it. so kill bill volume. One was released in 2003 then volume two was released in 2004, both written and directed by Quentin Tarantino. Volume one had a budget of 30 million and it made 80 million in the us and grossed 180 million worldwide. Wow. Volume, two, same budget of 30 million, made 66 million in the us and 154 million worldwide. so Quentin Tarantino and UMMA Thurman actually started the idea for this movie and the character of the bride while they were filming pulp fiction. If you look at the end, it says based on the, character of the bride. Oh, yeah. Created by Q and you,
Garret:Oh, that makes sense now because I was like I don't know who to had to do
Aaron:who is you?
Ashley:And I heard, he adds postponing cuz she got pregnant he was like, well it's not like I can do it without her. We came up with this together
Aaron:right
Ashley:He thought about it
Aaron:it took six years to actually write the entire script the original draft was about 220 pages long. it was meant to be one film. but after some pushback from the studios, he had to split into two what do you guys think about it being released as two films
Garret:I think it was the right choice, if you watch it together, it's like what? Just over four hours long
Aaron:that's a long
Garret:time to withhold a potty break if you're like me God, my bladder would just explode. I, I just think it was a good choice it created anticipation for the sequel once you finished with that first one. So I enjoyed it that way.
Ashley:One of the things he had said in the making notes I watched was that he didn't have to make any hard decisions He didn't have to cut anything to shorten it into one would be left on the cutting before that he would regret. So I also think it was the right choice he didn't have to compromise it.
Garret:I agree with that. Can you imagine if they condensed it at all, I I feel like every single piece that he put in there you needed it in order to understand the story fully and appreciate it.
Ashley:What we're cutting down fight scenes I don't think so.
Garret:right.
Aaron:Actually, there was one fight scene that was written that was cut out, which I will talk about here after a while. Really? Mm-hmm I agree with you guys. I think it was the right thing to do I felt that volume one and volume two were two separate styles of movies. the first one was like an old martial arts film with, the spring of the blood everywhere and the limbs being chopped off, a lot more deaths. the first volume had 41 deaths and the second one only had three. I saw on the making that$60,000 of the budget of the first movie was used for swords and sword accessories. like,
Ashley:No, I heard you're like hang hill, like para pane and propane accessories. swords and sword
Aaron:accessories.
Garret:Well, I'm like if 60,000 was used for swords, how much was used for
Aaron:blood? over 450 gallons
Ashley:He stole my fact
Aaron:oh did I steal it sorry Did you have what they filled blood up with
Ashley:Condoms
Aaron:Yeah they used blood field condoms to get the exploding squirting effect. That's what she said
Ashley:they said it was old school, but effective
Aaron:so volume two to me felt almost like a Western,
Ashley:did you know that volume too He was inspired by jackass as what he said in one of his interviews. He said it felt a little more rough because he watched jackass and there were explosions and they were gross. And for some reason he made a different feel in the second one I didn't really see it, but
Aaron:Yeah. That probably explains the trailer fight cause it was just rough and nasty, tobacco spit and yeah. So in the second one was actually only three kills, they don't really consider L being killed cuz we didn't really see her die. I would like to see her in a badass remake, like blind. You guys remember the blonde fury movies? It was a ninja that was blind. it was completely ridiculous, but,
Ashley:There's this part in the boys where, they're interviewing for new people to join the superheroes and the seven and there's one guy who's like dare devil where he's blind, and they're like, we think he's gonna be the next one So Homer walks up to him and he just claps his hand over his ears and blood just start pouring out of his ears and he goes. What can he do now? Somebody does that. He's like, what a superhero is this, are you kidding me?
Aaron:I saw that on the previews Savage but no I'm not there yet speaking of blonde fury, there is a rapper named blonde fury. a blind rapper he's really good, but he is kind of awkward to watch him because he's usually not facing the person that he's battling and he's white every now and then he, let's a, uh, racial term that most rappers can use, but not him. So it's pretty.
Ashley:But I mean, we're talking like TikTok famous or like, yes.
Aaron:Yeah. He's just a rapper. Okay. YouTube famous. but I was kind of late on Quentin Tarantino. I remember watching pulp fiction, but I had never seen. Reservoir dogs or Jackie brown but I was really excited to see kill bill volume one because, the Rizza was doing the score for it for the first part.
Ashley:but you have to explain cuz most people don't know that he's part of Luther England,
Garret:Oh okay
Aaron:Yeah So the Rizza AKA Bobby digital AKA the Abbott AKA prince for rake we're in a judgment free zone here. Right.
Garret:no Sorry
Ashley:I like you always assume that
Aaron:you can't see it I have a Wutang clan tattoo it's covered up now That does not surprise me. that's one of those things where you wake up after a long night and you're like
Ashley:well, there it's
Aaron:yeah So
Ashley:the interviews with him was Quentin Tarantino said he had always been a big Wang fan and I don't know if they ran into each other somewhere or what, but he was. Yeah I was bragging about all these K movies I had, on DVD and then Quentin would bust out the actual reel of it and be like, yeah, I got that one. So they bonded over that.
Aaron:No. Yeah, because he would brag to Quentin about owning a rare version. And Quinn's like, yeah, I have the original, you know, like the only one ever made I was a huge Wang fan. But if you haven't heard of the Wutang clan, Rizza made most of the beats and he sampled a lot of the old, Wutang films and, like show guns, assassin, he would use samples from those movies to make beats. The Wang clan really changed the hip hop game. They were the first ones to come out, with their own clothing line. stuff like that And then, Robert Rodriguez did the score for the second, volume
Ashley:for free
Garret:Ah, he did it for free
Ashley:wow. He wanted to do it so badly that he just was like, I'll give you an offer. You can't refuse, man. I'll do it for free. I don't know what else he's known for Aaron. Do you have a list of that?
Aaron:He did Grindhouse death proof robert Rodriguez has done a lot of stuff. I just, of course I didn't you know, the one thing I didn't, I'm gonna ask. Oh, he did send city. Robert Rodriguez said he would do it for free. So Quentin Tarantino. directed a segment of send city for$1. it does even it out That's nice.
Ashley:they're buddies too. That's what they said. It was, they were friends and it kind of came up
Aaron:one thing I forgot to mention was the RZA did the score and actually became a student, Quentin Tarantino became his sense, in directing, the RZA ended up writing and directing some of his own films. the man with the iron fist really cutthroat city. And he's had some acting jobs.
Ashley:when you look him up, it doesn't say just musician. It says musician producer, director,
Garret:really Cause I don't have any idea who this person is That's why I'm like, I have no commentary cause I have no idea. This is all
Aaron:learning for me.
Ashley:Educational.
Aaron:before we start talking about the movie, we can talk about the cast. Yeah.
Garret:So, UMMA Thurman is, the bride if you haven't seen kill bill, then you would know her from pulp fiction, she was Mia Wallace. She was in Batman and Robin as poison Ivy. One movie that I enjoyed, my super ex-girlfriend. She was Jenny Johnson or G girl, she was also Medusa and Pearcy Jackson and the lightning thief. she was the, main character in this movie. Then you have Lucy, Lou who was, Owen Ishi. Do you guys remember Lucy in ally McBeal?
Ashley:Yes, she was the not nice. lawyer,
Garret:Yes I remember when she first came on there I was blown away by her she was just such a good actress. I was like, she's gonna go far. And luckily she has,
Ashley:it brought a really cool dynamic to that show.
Garret:It did
Aaron:if we would've done our crush episode on just celebrities. She would've been number one hands down
Garret:yeah. She's very beautiful. And Vivica Fox. Would've been pretty high up there too. Oh God I love me So
Aaron:would've been up there until I saw her feet and then don't like feet Tarantino loves feet I do not I'm sorry.
Garret:Anyways. So Lucy, Lou, she was in McBeal. She, is in why women kill as Simone Grove. Charlie's angels Kung Fu Panda, elementary as Dr. Joan Watson. So that's where you may know her from
Aaron:donkey number 11
Garret:donkey. Never 11.
Aaron:Okay. Lucky number 11. She was like, oh, I was like, have you said don't donkey number set? that's a different movie. Yeah, I know.
Ashley:I was like, uh,
Aaron:that's just like cut, cut. Cut.
Garret:So David Carine, I knew more of him than anything. So this was honestly, probably the first movie that I saw that he was in. But he was in death race, 2000 bound for glory. he was in a series called Kung Fu, which was from 72 to 75. Then they did Kung Fu the legend continues in 93 to 97. so he was in like a bunch of these films for like ages. Yeah. But I, just he wasn't in my sort of wheelhouse. until this,
Aaron:I just remember the old reruns of Kung Fu late at night it would just be old old reruns.
Garret:I was never fan of like westerns or anything that looked similar to it. And I feel like some of his movies had a very Western and so I was just like, and is he still with us? Uh, no, he's deceased. He's told on that. does everybody know how he
Aaron:died? Yeah.
Garret:I guess, I can go into it a tiny bit. apparently he died in I'll just read what Wikipedia said.
Ashley:this is not from Garrett This is from Wikipedia
Garret:On June 4th, 2009. At the age of 72 Carine was found dead in his room but he was died in his hotel. a police official said that Carine was found naked hanging by a rope in the room's closet causing immediately speculation that his death was a suicide. however, his wife said that he was into some, kind of dark, things and he died by erotic asphyxiation. So he was choking himself and doing himself off.
Aaron:and choking
Garret:Yeah, I don't, I don't know how this, anyways, so that's how he died. And if you don't know who he is, I would look it up. But, going he's a really good actor. He was, I really liked him in this.
Ashley:Alright. other people in the main cast Darrell Hannah, she was in splash. If you're an eighties movie fan, she was also in wall street and one of my personal favorites in a gay iconic movie, steel Magnolias
Aaron:She was still Magnolias I don't remember
Garret:Yes Are you kidding me
Ashley:but she worked with Dolly part in the, the salon.
Aaron:I dunno. She had glasses.
Garret:yeah, she was the one that at the very end, they're like, what are you gonna name it? If it's a girl? And she's like, she, and what if it's a boy? She's like, she'll be out guess,
Aaron:don't, I don't know that I've ever seen that movie all the way through it's okay.
Garret:You have to get it stamped on your gay card Otherwise they take it away from you
Aaron:Wasn't she? The attack of the 50 foot woman too? Or she was,
Garret:yes so Vivica a Fox, if you don't know who she is, she was an independence day. She was in Set it off as Frankie, that was a great movie. And I recently walked to that for the first time.
Ashley:it was a good movie
Garret:mm-hmm she was in booty call Giana, man. and one of my absolute personal favorites, even though she's only in there for like a split second she's in, don't be a me south central world drinking J juice in the hood.
Ashley:Oh, we did go over that one.
Garret:she was ashtray's mom. She was like, now, you know, maybe there ain't no positive black role models in this film. And then last but not least, you got Michael Madson he was in, reservoir dogs. He was in a free Willie, which I don't remember him.
Aaron:yeah he was the dad
Ashley:I only picture him in like Tarantino movies So for him to be a dad I'm like he was abusive or something
Aaron:Now I don't know if this is like a Mandela effect for me I remember him being the salty, wily veteran in a world war II movie or war I movie. But I could not find it.
Garret:it's possible He's been in so many
Aaron:I remember it I I like I'm telling you but I could not find it
Feel
Ashley:like there's someone like him in saving private Ryan that you could maybe mistake, but not him.
Garret:Oh,
Aaron:there's
Garret:may have been in it. There's
Ashley:two guys that I'm no, I've seen it
Aaron:quite a bit. I'll look up the cast of, yeah, I'll check.
Ashley:But there's someone who I feel like could be mistake
Aaron:in that cast. You're probably right. I just
Ashley:can't see him playing a dad,
Garret:no, I know he's gruff, radio
Ashley:flyer would be dad
Garret:maybe
Aaron:he was the dad in free Willy. I'm telling you
Garret:not that I'm gonna watch that movie again on one day and I clicked it on and I'm
Aaron:like, oh, there he is. Wow.
Garret:Mm-hmm you just, always see him as not very, Fatherly or like loving. It's always kind of like, I'm gonna kill you in your family in
Ashley:Vernon.
Aaron:Just a few notes I had on all the people that you just described was that they were part of the deadly Viper assassination squad which was supposed to be in the script I guess it was the deadly international Viper assassin squad which is the divas the acronym for it So bill, was the snake charmer. it said that Warren Beatty was the main person he really wanted for that role. But if it was Warren batty, he was supposed to be like a more James Bond smooth spy type character wow. But once he found out it was a martial arts flick, he said that he didn't really understand it didn't think it be a good movie, so he didn't want to do it.
Ashley:I saw also Bruce Willis was considered
Aaron:Yeah. My list was Kevin Costner, Jack Nicholson, Kurt Russell, Mickey Rourke, and Bert Reynolds they all turned down the part of bill before.
Garret:I glad
Aaron:I think it worked out perfect Just because of David car's old school Kung Fu
Garret:Well, why we're talking about this? Why don't we just talk about
Aaron:the, yeah. I'm good with that. Yeah Let's roll into it.
Garret:so I, this was kind of fun. but also tough. for the bride, I first thought Jennifer Lawrence and the reason is cuz she's always in the hunger games she has that physicality that you need, but she's also, I think she's a good actress. then, as my mind started flowing, I thought Scarlet Johansen. And I immediately circled that because she's a great actress. she's like a chameleon. She's like a young Meryl Streep and she's very physically active in her movies, like black widow. She's done tons of stuff to where, it's requires a lot of movement, a lot of action. So I think that she would do well in those. what do you think?
Aaron:I agree. I think that's a great pick. Jennifer Lawrence one was pretty good, but I really liked the Scarlet John Hansen. I think that's a good one. Ash.
Ashley:I didn't watch black widow so I was like
Aaron:Oh you missed It's got hopper in it.
Ashley:Yeah. I didn't hear, I didn't hear good things. but
Garret:As an actress though, you've seen her in other things. Yeah. Oh, I love her in Jojo
Ashley:rabbit.
Garret:Oh my God. That was a great movie.
Ashley:So I had a hard time I just started looking through pictures and then it got the Rolodex going
Garret:that's what I did
Ashley:one thing I put was how cool would it be if her daughter played, from stranger things so I love her.. But then my second one was Bree Larson who plays captain Marvel. And I knew her from United States of Tara, and I loved her in that. And so when she played captain Marvel, I was like, yeah. Yeah. that bigger pick to
Aaron:yes. Yeah. Yeah. sorry, Garrett.
Garret:all good. All
Aaron:good. yeah, he just flick me off, but
Ashley:do we not like Brie Larson?
Garret:No, I love Brie Larson. I just stand by Scarlet. Johans part of playing this character is dialogue. I think the reason that he chose Uma is because she delivers dialogue so well in his movies. So I think that is a critical part of casting. Somebody in this major role is that they have to be able to deliver good dialogue, as well as all of the other bits
Ashley:okay so here's my pushback on Scarlet I think she's too pretty UMMA Thurman is pretty, but in like a distinct way. And I think that Scarla Johansen is irregular pretty, and there's just something about that to me, that doesn't fit
Aaron:like the uniqueness.
Ashley:Yeah. Like the unique look of UMMA Thurman and
Aaron:What about the girl that plays in the boys
Ashley:the star. I actually think may might be a good one The one who plays green may
Aaron:Oh yeah Queen ma might be a pretty good one too Hmm
Ashley:Some of these can be hard,
Garret:I think as far as acting chops go, Scarlet would have it like, and you would watch the movie she's got star power. she's good in everything that she plays in And she fits the age bracket of what the character would be. I tried putting as close to the age, but some of these are definitely like, I want this person cause they would be perfect.
Ashley:All right. So how about, oh, so I do have a thing though, that Quentin was actually gonna play, by may himself. but then with everything that it took to go into it, he ended up not playing him, I'm glad he did. Cause I liked the actor that played him.
Aaron:Oh for sure.
Ashley:who would be next? Orita
Garret:I was gonna do bill next for bill. There's two people. And one of them is actually in the movie in a minor role, bill has a very particular way. again, it's dialogue. It's those little quirks it's, can you really push these scenes? And I thought either Samuel L. Jackson would be a perfect bill or Christopher Walken.
Aaron:Ooh,
Ashley:Oh man My issue with Christopher walking is just not sexy to me
Garret:But the acting every role that he's in he plays it to the N degree And I think that he would be good, but Samuel Jackson, man, that man can give dialogue all day long. he plays these roles and he just like cars it out you almost can't see other people playing what he plays.
Ashley:I just think he has to have some kind. Sexy romantic quality which I feel like bill has you like know as a younger dude, bill was probably pretty hot So to me it's necessary for some sex appeal
Garret:true granted, these guys are older. And like I was saying, some of these casts is if they were a little bit younger, and I a hundred percent agree with you Christopher walking is not somebody that's like oh I would totally hit that
Ashley:he's like eternally old
Aaron:and I just can't picture either one of those guys playing the flute, or
Garret:I do think this movie had perfect casting. Don't get me wrong. But if it was made today, these are the people that I would choose.
Ashley:I had a hard time with this one. and I looked up a bunch of people, even from other tar, you know, films, like I was like, who could be mm-hmm I was cracking myself picturing Sam Elliot doing it.
Aaron:which
Ashley:I was trying to think of Cowboys where bill was kind of this cowboy and but the one that I picked was ed Harris and you know him, if you see him
Garret:I know ed Harris
Ashley:Westworld is what I know him from. He's this kind of gruff older cowboy.
Aaron:Yeah He was in the rock A beautiful mind.
Ashley:Oh, I think he was on Apollo 13 he has that old cowboy thing going it's this thing where you could tell they were handsome when they were younger.. that's how bill is for me.
Garret:I do feel like this movie, really balances the line between parody funny and serious. cuz you, you slide one direction too far it becomes too serious, but you slide the other direction and then it becomes slap, sticking too funny. these actors walk that line perfectly, very
Ashley:balanced. I agree with
Aaron:that.
Garret:Aaron, you have a
Aaron:for bill? I was thinking Martin sheen, but, or even Charlie sheen maybe, but.
Garret:A sheen maybe yeah. She's like just any sheen Emilio.
Ashley:I was gonna say
Aaron:Emilio is the best. I was gonna say him because he had the Western, Billy, the kid, but Charlie sheen did too, young guns he
Ashley:I just pictured Charlie She in Ferris jail's jacket's in every role I'm like, yeah. That's
Garret:All right. So Ranita, Vivica, she was not in this movie very long and she leaves an impression and her use of the word bitch, the way that she does it. I mean, she's tender with her kid and then she's wanting to choke a bitch. I just, I loved her in this film so much. So this one, it was really hard for me to find somebody that I thought who could possibly play it. got four choices for here and one of them is very kinda left field, but I I'll explain why So I thought Zoe, sold Donna she's Gamora. Yes. Great actress. Oh yeah. I thought she would be really really good, I have not seen her in very much, but I have been impressed in everything I have seen of hers. Zoe Kravitz. I feel like she definitely has like an aura she can be very powerful without being. Upfront.
Ashley:She cross crossed my mind too. I saw her in, I think she's in pretty little lies or one of my HBO ones I didn't input her, but she was, she would be an honorable woman.
Garret:Mm-hmm I thought Gabrielle union. Oh, oh yeah. and then this is the left field one Nicki Minaj I don't know if Nicki Minaj can act if she can, I have not seen her in anything, but this part, a huge part of it is attitude, she shoots through the serial box and just all of it, her short amount of dialogue that she has in this four hour movie makes such an impression that you need somebody who is going to claw your face off, but still be kind to her child in the same scene,
Ashley:can we point out that the
Aaron:cereal box was called CBO foreshadowing. she really had one of my favorite lines where she is like, Black Mamba. I should have been MF and black Mamba. You know that just to me, when I'll be
Ashley:honest, I thought she was black Mamba until I started reading the casting and I was like, oh, that's yeah. I
Aaron:just assumed you're like, no. yeah so she was actually copperhead but in the original script she was Cobra but they changed it to copperhead later on Okay. Do we know why tell, didn't say Okay.
Garret:So out of those, who do you think would be the best choice? So you got Zoe, Sala, Zoe Kravitz, Gabriel union, and Nick just who Zoe's. I didn't even think of that.
Ashley:I almost think, Gabrielle union, for some reason like she can bust out some sassy, but she's also
Garret:I put a star by her or It was between Gabrielle and Zoe sold Onna.
Aaron:I like Gamora just because, that'd be the, my choice. I'm sure you do.
Ashley:yeah Two priority
Aaron:Green so
Garret:L this one was a fun one I just kept, I had thousands of people. I was like, oh, this person, this person. Kate blanch. She would absolutely murder this role, Charlize Thone, Tilda Swanson She literally is a chameleon. She's a human chameleon. Yeah. And, Lena heady or CERI from game of Thrones.
Ashley:That'd be good.
Garret:Like, yeah.
Ashley:I do like Leman Okay I put two two I put Michelle Fier Even though she's older now I just pictured her. And then you know who else? I pictured all mine were old. I put Sean Young, from blade on. Yes. You know what? So is L
Aaron:L the crazy hopeful? No,
Garret:it's like, legit crazy, like in real life. No.
Ashley:Well, that's okay. She's good actress. She don't act crazy Ingle and iron horn.
Garret:could kind like as actresses. Yes. I could totally see that.
Aaron:I really like the thirst that you pick. I think that's a pretty good one.
Garret:I could see it. and she's very, she's a physical actress. cause that's one thing I thought about for these parts is like, who could actually do those scenes and not need very much stunt work, or, and Ishi. I thought of, gem Chan, she was also a CERSI, but she was in the Eternals. I dunno if you saw that. No, she also played another part. She was the assassin in guardians of the galaxy She was blue.
Aaron:Oh yes I do remember her.
Garret:She's dropped dead gorgeous, like just stunning, very demure. I thought Olivia MUN Jamie Chung.
Ashley:I put Jamie Chung too. I know her from Dexter's new blood and she played Molan and once upon a time,
Garret:yeah, she did that's where I kind of
Ashley:knew her from it. Awesome. And loved love for country. she's been in a lot of stuff
Garret:And then, I hope you'll remember her and hope I don't butcher her name. I think it's Dechen Lockman or Dechen Lockman. She is. Do you remember watching, doll house with me? do you remember? Do you remember November? Oh
Ashley:yeah. I've seen her in so many things since then and everyone I'm like, where do I know her from? And it's always dollhouse.
Aaron:Yeah.
Garret:she was in agents of shield. She was, Daisy's mom, she is an acting powerhouse. And the only reason I know that is because dollhouse, short story about dollhouse. She was one of the dolls that basically they would imprint different personalities onto So she would, you could see her as an assassin, a dancer, like likewhatever they programmed for as she would change and become. She was a fantastic actress. I think she would be amazing at this role.
Aaron:That's the only one I know So I'm going with it
Garret:Olivia MUN, she was Sylo in, Xmen apocalypse. Did you see
Aaron:that? No, I haven't seen it. I'm behind in the expon know that
Ashley:she's had a little bit of drama because her now baby daddy,
Garret:anyway, we'll move on to, bud. I got three actors for this one. Brad Pitt,
Ashley:I put Brad Pitt.
Garret:Did you? I can totally see Brad Pitt Jamie Fox, because he can do serious and when he does serious, it does well, and I just kept picturing that line where he's like, that lady deserves her. Revenges. her revenge Right Mm-hmm and I was like, Jamie Fox could do that line in his sleep. and then a little bit more left field, but like Jason stayed him. Is that the what?
Aaron:The bald guy? Yeah. Transporter
Ashley:crane transporter. Yeah. I dunno what I was trying. I loved him in a
Aaron:snatch. Oh yeah. I really like the Jamie Pick. Cause I think of Jango,
Ashley:yeah I was trying to think of him in a country role And I was like I know he played something but yes that's exactly what it was.
Aaron:Brought Jango man. Like it just
Ashley:I also put Woody Haron as a, as
Garret:Oh, that that's a good pick.
Aaron:Yeah I like that
Ashley:He does that kind of dumb country but still has a soft side
Aaron:Like zombie land Yeah
Ashley:that I was going natural. Born killers, but yeah
Aaron:Born zombie land
Ashley:for sure. I was trying to think of what he was more recently. I was thinking older roles
Garret:White men. Ken
Aaron:jump. Remake Jack Harlow there you go That's my we nailed it I did see and hear that originally, Quentin Tarantino wanted Michael Madson to play Johnny Moe, which was the crazy 80 eights guy with a mask on. but after kind of going through it, who? Bud? Bud, Oh,
Ashley:Yeah. Yeah. It's an odd pick.
Aaron:yeah.
Ashley:Also, that guy with the mask on that just go wow played P may
Garret:I did not know that I did wow They looked so I love how he kept doing the Yes
Aaron:makes me grow mine out Just
Garret:it was like the gay hair talks It was like okay
Ashley:kept flicking it over his shoulder
Garret:Yeah. So as far as, if it was today, for the immediate cast, that's all I got I felt like when it gets to a movie of this proportions, as long as you have good, media characters in those roles, the side characters can be filled almost by anybody, cuz you're not really focused on them as
Aaron:much. But he did do a great job on some of the side characters. He did the owner of the bar, and the guy that\helps bud Barry the bride
Ashley:oh, that guy was such a creep.
Aaron:But could you imagine anybody else playing that role?
Ashley:I mean, no, it works. And that was the thing when I saw dust Dawn and this is a little random, but Gino was like the creepiest guy in the whole thing
Aaron:oh the foot fetish
Ashley:Yeah. And I just was like, Ugh. And Then I realized it was his movie he just has his way of getting that feeling where you're just like, it, I don't like it.
Aaron:Very cringe
Garret:Wash it
off
Ashley:well the grave Digger and the, nurse book was that I was like, no, thank you. Yeah.
Aaron:Yeah. I skip over that part pretty quickly cuz it's I just don't You're like, no Scott so. We're gonna talk about the assassin names from the divas. like I said, bill was a snake charmer, Beatrix kiddo, which was UMO Therma. She was black Mamba. O Ren EI was cotton mouth Bernita. Green was copperhead, like I said, previously, Cobra and L driver was the California mountain snake. such a
Ashley:weird one to me. Old snakes. You could be
Aaron:And I think she was the only non venomous snake out of all of them. they weren't all Vipers because, the black mom was not a Viper. And, The California mountain snake is not a Viper either. if you guys were assassins, what would your assassin squad name be?
Ashley:Oh, I, is that a snake?
Aaron:Uh you can do a snake if you want to keep a theme with the snake or just, mine would probably be like
Garret:sassy snake or something talking shit to them the entire
Aaron:time. Sassy snake.
Garret:sassy. Snake has got you.
Aaron:Oh, I can't even talk sassy snake. Like I'm not even gonna do sassy snake IY
Garret:I'm gonna snatch your eye.
Ashley:are you saying like sassy snake or are you seen snatch
Aaron:meant to say sassy but snatchy
Garret:no not snatching I did but no SA E not snatch you just took to a whole just PG 13 girl
Ashley:Snatch. Snake. I guess we've got mining
Aaron:now. You
Garret:know when fate and oh my God. Wait. So what would hand be?
Aaron:I have no idea. I'm asking you guys,
Garret:what is it? wall snake Could you keep running away from the wall
Aaron:oh the yeah the podcast wall snake So to clarify that Have a tendency to just lose all energy in the middle some of these podcasts and we call it the wall.
Ashley:He hits that's what wall and you can't see him, but his eyes glaze. And I think the back of the chair is the only thing holding him up. Otherwise flatten out,
Aaron:in my defense. I am a couple hours ahead of you guys
Garret:no you you are three hours ahead of me
Ashley:it's true You're a trooper
Garret:You are very much so
Aaron:I'm trying I'm not gonna hit the wall. This episode so the movie starts with a quote. Revenge is a dish best served cold. the movie starts in black and white and it shows the bride after she's been beaten badly, a voice outta frame and a hand holding a handkerchief with bill embroidered into it is shown, wiping blood off her face. you see a bullet And the, song bang bang starts to move off? So it starts a movie off with a bang. The jokes get better I promise don't turn the thought we're gonna go through their chapters, but they don't go in order. We're just gonna give a brief description of the chapter then kind of talk about, some of the things we like dislike and move on. chapter one in volume one is actually called just the number two Beatrix kiddo, which is Umit Thurman arrives at the location of the second member of the death list. Five for Nita green,
Ashley:AKA copperhead
Aaron:yep So they're fighting and the fight is stopped when a bus pulls up and beta's daughter Nikia gets off the bus and you see her walking towards the door. They stop fighting the two former assassins take a coffee break. During the break, Vanita apologized for things that she's done in the past and gives a little background on their history. so they're talking and The bride tells her that she's gonna kill her, whether she wants to do it now in front of her daughter, she really doesn't want to, so they agree to, fight, to the death, it was pretty cool. She's like a black mask at the baseball park where I coached softball It
Ashley:was very specific and very
Aaron:mm-hmm Yeah. And it's crazy, cuz it's like, a doctor's wife and she's changed and she's had a baby and now she's living blue collar, just a regular house wife life. And like as Ashley said earlier, she pulls up a box and the cereal says Kaboom on it and she holds it up and tries to fire at her, but misses her the bride throws a knife and kills her.
Ashley:one of my favorite lines that came from this was, when they were having their coffee, Bernita says something about her being rational, like, oh, I didn't think you were rational enough. And she. It's mercy, compassion and forgiveness. I lack not rationality. And that's her character encompassed me. Like get a
Aaron:girl, get a sassy snake. So she kills Bern green. And as she does this, Nikias actually witnessing the whole murder and the chapter ends with her saying it was not my intention to kill your mother in front of you, but know that she had it coming. And if you grow up and still feel raw about it, I'll be waiting.
Ashley:That's a good way to yeah.
Tie
Aaron:that up. Yeah. hell yeah. Like she would understand. Yeah, had it coming if you're still pissed about it, let me know. Yeah. the chapter actually ends when, Beatrix is leaving in the, uh hoo-ha wagon, I guess we'll call it
Ashley:I was calling it the P wagon, but I
Aaron:like, oh, the P wagon. Okay. We can go
Garret:the J
Aaron:wagon
Garret:I love this chapter. I think it was great. It's a good, they get right into it too. They do, man. She just knocks on the door, like she's delivering mail and she's like, Hey bitch, I got another knife in your throat. Sorry.
Aaron:So hard to do without cussing. it really is embellishes all wording out, especially
Garret:love that.
Ashley:This is the movie that has the least amount of FBOs. I've all putting here opinion, movies. There are numbers on it. I didn't lift them up, but just know, oh wow. I can see that which it was like 46, but in the other ones it's like 200
Aaron:and something. Yeah. I think this was the only, that had less than a hundred out of all of his movies.
Ashley:now you guys are making up for it.
Aaron:yeah,
Garret:oh, That fight scene was so cool. They were throwing each other all over that house and she was ready. Tita didn't lose any skills in those four years she stayed sharp and the way she commands, I just can't stop watching her. I love her. I want her on my side. And then when she sees everything going on and her daughter comes up and she's just like, you want some coffee I'm like, you just try to kill each other. And she was like, you still take cream and sugar. Okay Yeah
Ashley:like it's Tuesday
Aaron:But you could tell that when her daughter was in there she didn't want her daughter to go close to UMMA Thurman you know, because she was afraid what she was gonna do. She sent her to her room real quick and then blame the mess on the dog.
Ashley:That was funny. Your dog's been in here again,
Aaron:acting a fool.
Garret:when they have blood all over them, holding the knife behind their bags. I'm just like, if you could have a good first scene in a movie, that was it. Like it's, intense. It's action. You understand she's on a path for revenge and she going died no matter what.
Ashley:You can tell there's history, but that is not gonna stand in my way.
Aaron:yeah definitely set the tone for volume one of what it was gonna be and what you're expecting for the other chapters All right. We ready to move on?
Garret:sure.
Aaron:Chapter two, the blood splattered bride. this is a flashback about the massacre at two Pines, which is another chapter later, but it is the wedding rehearsal of Arlene macve, AKA Beatrix kiddo and Tommy Plimpton. and where the deadly Viper assassination squad actually murdered everybody at the chapel. Beat the heck out of Beatrix kiddo and They thought they killed her like at the beginning when they shot her, but she's actually in a coma. it starts where the sheriff, I guess, of the town investigates the crime scene. and then it goes to the hospital where Beatrix is in a coma, L driver, which is Darrell. Hannah is one of the assassins she arrives at the hospital and is about to inject her with poison only to be stopped by a call from bill. It was funny because I don't know if you hear, when Bill's on the phone, you could hear her yelling. It's like, like,
Garret:yeah,
Aaron:it's like a cartoon almost. And then after they get off the phone she is like thought that was pretty F and funny didn't you like she's talking to her you know I thought that was pretty good, then it goes to four years later where kiddo wakes from a coma to find, first of all, that she's no longer pregnant. this point in the movie, she's thinking that her kid did not survive. She doesn't know that her baby is alive. she acts like she's in a coma and of course buck and the crazy dude from the water boy and a bunch of Adam salmon movies, Adam Sandler movies. she hears what they're saying and realize that, buck has been allowing men to do things to her that shouldn't be done This is probably my, the most cringy, chapter for me
Garret:It is
Aaron:so, buck leaves her alone with the trucker she kills him and then kills buck steals the keys to the hoo-ha wagon. And that's where it ends. A few things about this chapter Michael Parks, which was the sheriff, uh Earl McGraw, or actually he's a Texas ranger. he has played this role in a lot of Tarantino's movies. He was the same character and from dust hill Dawn and both parts of the Grindhouse flicks. Really? Yeah.
Garret:So are they establishing like a universe
Aaron:or I guess so, the Tarantino verse, but Tino verse. And he actually plays Esteban also in the last chapter,
Ashley:That was another one where the same actor played two characters, but couldn't have been more different, I had a hard time with that one. I knew, cuz I watched the making hub, I had to really look, but I was like, wow, I was no kidding. from a Texas ranger to a pimp
Aaron:somebody else was supposed to play Estaban but they got wrapped up on another production. So they just had him read the lines in a read and they just went with it cuz he did such a great what he was seen character. Same character.
Garret:Damn
Aaron:A few more things from this chapter Quent Tarantino actually owns the P wagon. he drove it around like as his daily driver to promote, kill bill two after volume one,
Ashley:he's been in a couple music videos, so Gaga, telephone. It was in and a Missy Elliot video.
Garret:Oh my God. It totally wasn't that That's cool. I did not connect those dots.
Aaron:the few more things from this chapter, the slow Mo when she cuts the back of bucks Achilles. When he first walks in.
Ashley:It's the worst
Aaron:Oh, like, I feel it right now. the way the RZA put that music with it. Yeah. You see her and then, he doesn't even know it's coming and I know,
Garret:Oh that entire scene is so stressful but it's supposed to be
Ashley:I am having a moment of why did that have to be in there now that we were saying we couldn't cut anything? Why did the rapy part have like the P wagon? I guess like buck had to be a but it took him to another level but
Aaron:he got what he deserved though. I mean, yeah, and, she thinks that he. Knows bill. she thinks that he's part of it,
Garret:oh that bill has set this up
Aaron:cuz she's slamming his head against the door like where's bill,and I really thought the scene where L's walking into the hospital and changes into her nurse's costume. Oh my
Garret:God. Iconic, that costume
Aaron:Well, but why did she have to change into the it didn't look like security was real tired. No,
Garret:there was zero security at this place Like you could just come and go as you please
Ashley:Seriously while there's people having sex with patients So yeah
Garret:Yes. this film was all about style and creating as much of a character as you can, when you see characters and you see a look it defines part of their personality, right. From the get go, when you see them, that's true. You know,
Aaron:that's
Ashley:true. It needed to be over the top, which I think correct it's bordering ridiculous, but also
Aaron:I still feel like she would draw more attention dressed like that than she would've. If she would've just came in with that eye patch.
Ashley:people would've remembered her in the hospital? They would've been like, oh,
Aaron:so the whistling music that's playing while she's walking in is, the theme from twisted nerve, which was, a psycho flick back in the day. it's been sampled on all kinds of songs and different movies and he was actually in the rap song. Broccoli. I don't know if y'all heard that, but Nope.
Garret:I listen to cauliflower.
Aaron:Okay. That's chapter two, unless you guys have anything to add.
Garret:I mean that part her being in the hospital, how she wakes up, how, everything is going there's there, it always creates tension, which I think is probably why it's in there is to create more attention and it does move the story along a bit. She wants to get outta there. She wants to get away from the rapist. She kills them, and it's hard doing that, especially when you can't do anything with your limbs all of that creates this predicament where like, get the hell out
Aaron:If she would've woke up and the nurses would've been caring or, you know, actually,
Garret:oh yeah. What do you need, honey?
Aaron:yeah I see what you're saying. I never really thought about that.
Garret:She's in hell. She's waking up like, I've just been shot who knows when my baby's gone and I can't walk and he's pimping me out. it was just awful. And I felt so bad for the character, but like, they totally got what they deserved. I was like, yeah, cute. Oh yeah.
Aaron:Bit his ear off and smashed his head. Chapter three, the origin of OEN this is really cool. It goes into an anime series. it shows over him when she was nine years old and it shows her parents being killed by a Japanese crime boss name, Lord Matu, Moto, and his accomplices. The way they,, designed it and wrote it, it's very graphic and it reminds me of the old anime, like ninja scroll, or I don't know if you guys have seen those.
Garret:I haven't seen that.
Aaron:The blood splatter and, just the style that was drawn in. So after both her parents were slaughtered in front of her, they don't know that she's underneath the mattress, they burn her down and she swears revenge on, Lord Mato. so when she's 11 years old, she's able to get revenge because he's a pedophile and she is posing as a, prostitute, I guess. I don't know. I don't probably, so after it shows her killing Lord Monte Moto, it, it shows how she develops into becoming one of the biggest assassins in the world. nine years later it shows her carrying out,, international missions. That's pretty much the chapter here it actually states that a year after the massacre of two Pines where they, killed everybody at the wedding and put her in a coma, that bill was actually the one that financed O Ren and helped her to become the head of the ikua. In Tokyo., Tarantino, originally intended to cast a Japanese actress to play over in. but before he was casting, he saw Lucy Lou in the movies, Shanghai noon. Um
Garret:I think so. was
Aaron:it Jackie Chan? that's the first person that came to my mind was Jackie Chan. I think so after he saw her, he knew that he had to have her in this movie. So he actually changed the part into a Chinese, Japanese American, so she could play the part. and I watched an interview with David Carine, and he said that if you watch the anime part of this movie, that his character bill was actually the one that killed her dad. The one that flicks the cigar and burns the house down Oh, that's him. Yes. I did not get that. I've watched it again and you can see that it looks like he has a Hanzo sword and the rings are similar to the ones he's holding. When he is talking to L earlier in the movie.
Garret:Interesting. Not
Aaron:looked like him. I can see it but I would've never guessed
Garret:No
Aaron:Mm-hmm
Garret:I just thought the Anime part was absolutely. what's that word? It just, it like, not groundbreaking, but it's you're kind of shocked because you're like, I'm in a live action movie and all of a sudden it goes to anime and you're like, what is this? they're cutting, people's heads off, arms off and it's spraying out everywhere. but it's cool. you really sympathize with this little girl and what's happening. I really enjoyed seeing her origin as anime. Like, what did you think when you
Aaron:saw. I loved it also. I, I feel like he could set the tone and make you feel what she was feeling better doing it that way. cause her mom is on the bed and get stabbed while she's under the bed. So the sword goes right next to her and then the rain drops of blood. and The music you just feel it.
Ashley:two parts that stood out to me was when her dad gets killed she has to be quiet, but she lets out a noise and it puts the
Aaron:whimper. Yeah.
Ashley:Yeah. So I thought that was genius. And then the part she feels, is it Mooto Yeah. She slices and then there's a blood silhouette like of her body. those little details
Aaron:The way she was under the bed and blew those guys like kneecaps off she blows one of'em off and he falls and makes eye contact with her and then
Garret:that was such a cool part even after it's showing how she's ascending that scene where they're eating. And everyone's having a good time and that one dude in the corner is just having a bad day. It's like, what's your problem. And then when he says what his problem is, and it's about her race, the fact that she, like a true assassin runs up, slices his heads off, and when she stops you, she's like, look, I just wanna let you know that while I am here, it is okay for you to challenge me from time after time. She's like, I accept that. And like, she sounds so business womanlike when she's doing it, I was cracking up, at the end she's like, but if any of you bring up my race again, I'll cut your
Aaron:head off. I like it too. Cuz she's speaking in, I think it's Japanese. I'm gonna say it is because everyone in Tokyo, but then she's like, I'm gonna say this part an American, just so you know how serious I am,
Ashley:it almost felt like them giving the speech at the beginning of a flight, here and here and then that, and then it was just like, so except for this one subject
Garret:Point take. Yeah, very composed, she's just killed this person. And on point and they know she means dead business. If you say wanting against her. that whole part
Aaron:was awesome. I love too how overdramatic the other crime bosses were? No, the old martial art flick,
Ashley:or just anime, but like in real life where this is too much, it's like this reactions
Aaron:I'm like OK. Very much. So I think they probably used a large amount of the 450 gallons of blood in that one scene. For sure. chapter four, the man from Okinawa. So she's in the P wagon for 13 hours, which I know these movies are in their own world but you would think every 13 hours they would've found buck by now and the first place they'd probably look, would be for the P wagon, but oh,
Ashley:there's no, accountability for anything that anyone's doing. no, absolutely not. nobody's looking after Bernita it's just like, oh, okay, cool.
Aaron:Yeah. Just kind of like this next scene where she books a one way ticket to Okinawa. and on the plane, you can see Samura sword, her Samura sword. So she's heading OK. Okina to track down the legendary swordsmith a Tori Zo. she gets to a Tori ZOS, I guess you would call it a bar or a cafe. And she pretends to be a tourist, as Zach acting real sweet and innocent, like she just visited, she doesn't really know Japanese. She gets a feel on if he is ator Hanzo, and then her whole demeanor changes. she lets Hanzo know why she's there and what she wants. he's actually taken a blood oath 28 years ago to never make another sword again. But after she tells him that she's there because of one of his former students, bill, breaks his blood oath and makes her another sword.
Ashley:So I was trying to figure out, what's the background, like why they didn't show any bad blood listeningor and bill did they,
Aaron:it never tells It never explains any backstory
Ashley:He didn't even say his name He wrote in the window
Aaron:so she's there and she says, I need Japanese steel. I have Verman to kill. And he's like, you must have a very big rat. And he's like, you know who it is. And then he writes bill on the window
Garret:I think it's, inferenced like heavily. And I think if you add up some things from later parts of the movie, it makes sense.
Aaron:Like what,
Garret:I dunno if I should say it now more go back, when we're talk about,
Aaron:okay Yeah we we can address it in a later chapter Um I just saw that there's been fan speculation that the reason behind ZOS blood oath, to never make something that kills again. Was a direct result of being deceived by bill, while under ZOS training, bill convinced him to craft a sword for several of the divas. Under the, idea that, they were gonna be S or some other innocent excuse when the swords were in fact to be used as part of the group's arsenal to assassinate people for hire when Hanzo discovered Bill's true motivations. He was so disgusted and scandalized by this, that he fled Okinawa and SWS of blood Oaks. that's just a fan theory though. So, in this scene, I thought the banter between Hanzo and his assistant. Oh. They were arguing back and forth, talking about, get thet, and he, yeah. He says something like, If I were in the army, I'd be a general right now. And Szel was like, well, I'd be the emperor. And you'd still be getting my teeth. that's
Ashley:pretty, that banter was
Aaron:funny,
Garret:I think they do a good job of turning everybody that's at least forward. and that you have any sort of connection to that. They, are memorable. Like what they're doing is memorable.
Aaron:Yes.
Ashley:Well thought out, and balanced again. That's a word that's gonna keep coming up is the balance of it. It was comedy, it was serious, cuz then it gets into like him making the sword and the whole presentation of that and that dude. I think it was called bald guy
Aaron:I couldn't find a name, name for me either T guy or
Ashley:something. at the end they have the picture of the person and it's like the Goodlock and da, da, da, and here's the bald guy. And I was like, okay, you didn't even get a name.
Aaron:there's a part where he's like, you like swords and I like baseball and he throws the baseball at her and she pulls out the sword that she's holding and cuts the baseball in half. That was actually done by, UMMA Thurman's stunt, double Zoe bell.
Ashley:another Zoe
Aaron:Zoe bell. actually went on to have roles in some of Quin Tarantino's later movies. She was in January a hateful eight. Oh so a Tori Zo was played by Sonny Chiba. the reason I actually was familiar with him just because of the old Wutang references and the old martial arts films. He is a martial arts legend. he's been in over 125 movies. Wow.
Ashley:I think it was a big deal for him to get him for this.
Aaron:yes Quent Tarantino's directing style was heavily influenced by a lot of son Chibas movies And his old TV shows. you can see his influence in a lot of movies that he has directed and written. all right. Chapter five. This is probably my favorite chapter
Ashley:Is that the
Aaron:yes so chapter five show down at the house of blue leaves. Beatrix tracks down Rin and her personal army at the house of blue leaves. it's Their local hangout. O Ren is protected by her bodyguards, which are the crazy 88. And inside that crazy 88 is Sophie fatal Gogo Ubar and Johnny Moe, which we talked about earlier was the guy with the face.
Ashley:side note there aren't really 88 of them
Aaron:This sounds cool. Yeah, So while beat's in the restroom, changing into her suit, that was, influenced by Bruce Lee the yellow jump shoe with a Stripe. I don't know if you realize that
Ashley:I didn't
Aaron:So Beri recognizes Sophie's cell phone and she remembers it because the same ring tone happened right before she got her butt kicked at the, massacre two example. Yes mm-hmm so she realized it was her. And, it goes through a few scenes where OIN and the crazy partying and she, senses something and throws a dart Beatrix is hiding on the roof while a Gogo comes out and investigates. Eventually, you hear Beatrix call O Rens name and a Ren comes out with a crazy 88. And she chops off Sophie's Patel's arm and calls her out. Yes. Yeah.
Ashley:Boring gallons of blood
Aaron:it was awesome. this is the fight between the crazy 88, go-go and eventually over in, and she ends up being able to kill over in, she drops Sophie off at a nearby hospital and in the end of the movie, bill visits her, and it ends on asking if Beatrix knows that our kid is still alive. So it's leaving volume one into a cliff hanger for volume two,
Ashley:And that's the first time we heard of it. I wouldn't even have thought of
Aaron:it either. Yeah. I wouldn't have either,
Ashley:like whe
Aaron:to me, this crazy 88 scene, the fight scene where she's break dancing and the music's playing in the background is probably one of like the baddest ass fight scenes I've ever seen. oh yeah,
Ashley:But She like sends a few minions, sends a few minions and then she turns around is like, all right, what's up? And then you hear the other people coming and she's like, come on, bro. You didn't think it'd be that easy. And she's like, I
Aaron:kinda did, Yeah. There for a second. I kind of did, yeah.
Ashley:Mm-hmm alright. first of all, the 5, 6, 7 eights is like something to point out when she goes into the bar, this band is playing it's, a Japanese girl band and they're dressed up like fifties, raw nets, they got beehives and little outfits and they're playing surfer rock, which is just that, and they of course sing the woo woo. They heard it everywhere now, but tar was in Japan, shopping at a clothing store, on a break. And he had some time, but not a lot of time. And he heard the CD on the stereo and he went up to the clerk and was like, who is this? can I buy the CD off of you? And they're like, no, go to the CD store. He's like, I don't have time to go to the CD store. Can I pay you more for. And they were like, we're gonna have to call the manager so they called the manager, oh my God. Eventually they sell him the CD. But he said in Japan, that's really rude to ask an inconvenience, people like that. but he was like, I know I'm not gonna follow up on this. So right. first he got the CD got on the plane, rest is history.
Aaron:That's cool.
Ashley:Yeah. My other thing though, was with the fight with, O Ren, I was trying to figure out why it was so epic for me and what it was is obviously the soundtrack we talked about is really cool so it's great music, but then there's a part where there's no music. it is completely silent. Alls you hear is the women breathing and this little fountain that gets going.
Garret:Oh
Ashley:yeah, there's just something about This silence. I can't remember what show we were watching, but I kept trying to figure out why it made me so uncomfortable and it was because they didn't have a soundtrack. And we're so used to that in movies to guide us that when you don't,. It's just a moment. And so I it's jarring. It was genius snow and the little fountain and it was right before she was taking her down, you know, when she realizes, cuz she cut her in the leg, she realizes, oh, oh this is gonna happen.
Aaron:cause at first she kind of makes fun of her. She says little Caucasian girls like to play with swords And then once she strikes her in a leg, she's like, all right, I'm sorry.
Ashley:She apologized
Aaron:yeah,
Ashley:that was the moment too. Lucy, Lou, we were talking about her acting like even her face changes, it is this moment of realization of oh shoot this is over,
Aaron:it mm-hmm another interesting fact that I saw about that fight was at the beginning, O Ren says something to the lines of, I hope you saved your energy, you know, fighting the crazy aid and go, go because if you did, oh yeah, you won't last five minutes. so what I saw was that it was exactly four minutes and 59 seconds when she strikes the fatal blow, like finally kills her.
Garret:Oh wow That's cool
Aaron:in the original script, she was supposed to decapitate her, but. He wanted to make sure that she was able to, because she says something like, it really was a Zo sword because when she tells her it was a Zo at the beginning, she's like, she stops at her, you know? Yeah.
Garret:yeah. That whole thing was cool, but we didn't talk about the fight with Gogo, and how cool that was. I mean, she's got a ball in chain.
Aaron:that chain is actually called a meteor hammer
Garret:meteor hammer Interesting
Aaron:The first time she tried to use it, when they were filming, she actually hit Quinn Tarantino. She bombed him with it. She jumped really? I
Ashley:read that too. He was right by the camera and she was like messing around.
Aaron:Oh my gosh. Yeah. The character at Gogo was really cool cuz she was a young girl and she just kills that guy for no reason. Yeah. Penetra. So one of the things we were talking about that got cut. One of the chapters that was originally in this was Gogo was supposed to have a twin sister named Yuki. there was gonna be a whole scene when the bride got back to America that Yuki came and got revenge on her. It was supposed to be. Elaborate gun chase but Quinn tar said they ran outta time and the money to actually do it. So they cut it outta there. Got it.
Garret:interesting. What if that, how that would've been,
Aaron:uh, he said it also didn't really go with the flow of the rest of the movie. Like watered it down a little.
Garret:Yeah, I could see that, but that whole scene was really cool. I love when Lucy, Lou is like, tear the bitch apart. And then her just fighting all those people. There's this blood everywhere. It was a cool fight scene.
Aaron:She's break dancing and chopping people's arms and legs and cutting people in half
Ashley:But I feel like it's like any fight scene where you're like, why aren't they all attacking her at once? Why are they going one at a time? You know, that's any hero Mo superhero movie, any of'em where you're like, there's 10 of them, but they're still only fighting like maybe two,
Aaron:and no, you just have to overlook, right? Yeah. I why don't they all just run at her? I'm gonna do this, Yeah. You distracted her, but they did try to do that at one time. And she got out of it, she was able to. So the part where it goes to black and white, do you remember where it goes black and white from? And then she just blinks and it goes color. he said they actually did this to pay homage, to some of the seventies and eighties movies that used to air, the old Kung Fu movies, they couldn't show blood on some of these programs. So the sensors would make them do it in black and white, or they would do it in black and white to avoid homage to that. He didn't want to use any CGI in any of this the scene was supposed to only take two weeks, but because it was so complex and there was so much to it, it actually took eight weeks to film. Just this one scene. Yeah.
Ashley:some people were like, uh, they film a movie in this
Aaron:time. yes. There was one of his other movies and they filmed the whole movie in that length damn. Yeah.
Ashley:but no CGI.
Aaron:font. No CGI, I
Garret:Fight scene is iconic. If you did anything that was similar to it, you would think kill bill, because it's just so good and over the top, but awesome.
Aaron:Yeah, it reminded me of a movie. There was a gently movie called, fist of legends where he walks into a dojo full of Kung Fu masters. And they all try to attack him once he's not cutting them all, but he's snapping limbs and, just taking, And then one other part of this scene that I really like, that I forgot to talk about was the slow motion walk when over in and like her gang and they're walking through the hall and it's playing, oh, I love that, that music that was used in so many other films after this, I feel like the slow motion walk invented right there.
Ashley:Yeah and the music was, out of place, but not out of place, you know what I mean? Like I was almost like, oh, this is a weird choice, but it was also fitting,
Aaron:It really was. So
Garret:I think he does a lot of shots. Because it's a unique shot. I mean, them walking doesn't do anything for the movie at all. Except it's cool as It looks
Aaron:cool.
Ashley:And music was good. the build up,
Aaron:right? And then there was another shot were they turned the lights out and you can just see the shadows fighting and then the lights turn on just the little kid and he's shaking
Ashley:She gave us whacking his sword
Aaron:Down, like chop sore down and spanks him funny parents. Yeah. Go on to your parents. yep all right. Volume two starts with chapter six, which was visited earlier is the master at two Pines. So it actually flashes back before. the deadly Viper assassination squad actually killed, the wedding party, it was actually a wedding rehearsal and not the wedding. it starts out with Beatrix and Tommy, which is her fiance Beatrix is fully pregnant and they're making decisions about the wedding and the preacher's there. So they banter back and forth and then Beatrix decided she needs to take a break. As she's walking out, she starts hearing a flute. And as soon as she hears the flute, she knows what was going on. So she walks out, sees bill on the porch, they have some banter in the way they film it where they're moving towards each other as they talk their feet. yeah you could see their feet And every time they say something they move closer towards each other so I think she asked how'd you find me? And he just says, I'm the man, and then her fiance comes and asks her if everything's right. So she introduces bill as. Her dad, instead of that moment, baby daddy, I know was like, Ooh, you can see Bill's face he's like, I was
Ashley:gonna say his face when she said that was like, okay,
Aaron:we're gonna go there. Yeah So, Tommy's like, oh, I didn't think you were gonna be able to make it. I thought you were serving with the peace Corps or something, no, he was like mining and I
Garret:was for silver in Australia. Oh
Aaron:yeah. That's what it was. then Tommy, as he's like, oh my gosh. He was like, why don't you walk her down the aisle and kid. I was like, uh, no, I don't think that's gonna work
Ashley:That's not his cup of tea yeah.
Aaron:And he actually says yeah that would be asking a lot
Ashley:Which sounds really funny if it were an actual dad you'd be like okay. Knowing what we know, it's hilarious. But like from a dad perspective, like our dad was like, no, I'm good.
Aaron:I know.
Garret:I like to sit
Aaron:she got two legs She can walk herself she Yeah. Yep So Bill sits on her side, which he says your side always has been the lonely side. sits back in and as the wedding rehearsal restarts, you see the deadly VI assassination squad, inner and then you hear a bunch of gunshots. I don't really have too many facts about this except for about Samuel Jackson. Rufus. Yeah. Rufuss he's the man.
Ashley:Cause I make a point where like, oh, I even did the colored guy rufuss and I was like rufuss and then later when I saw him, I was like, oh,
Aaron:mm-hmm So the fan theory is Samuel L Jackson's character rufuss is actually Jules Winfield from pulp fiction. at the end of poll fiction, Jules says that he wants to become a drifter and walk the earth One of the quotes that Rufus says in here is they ask him who all he's played with and, yeah. He says I'm kind of a drifter or something. Yeah. He says, I was a drifter. I was a coaster and I was a temptation. He said, if they came through Texas, then I've played with them. So that's just a fan theory. There's nothing that's implied, but It's a nod. Yeah It's a nod I, but this scene,, it's cool to show what happened before the massacre and that it was actually just a wedding rehearsal and not the wedding.
Ashley:because bill makes the comment why are you in your wedding dress? Isn't it bad luck to see the bride then her husband says I live dangerously and they both look at him Like
Aaron:oh yeah, they both look like
Ashley:they both are like well you don't know what you're saying
Garret:correct
Ashley:you run a record store dude but I think this does give you a good dynamic. Like we know right before she gets shot. we find out Bill's the father like? Yeah. He says, but I don't know. Have we seen it before then? Right
Aaron:before he, that was at the very beginning. The, the beginning? Yeah. Bill. It's your baby and then P
Ashley:I felt like there was chemistry there. She just has this love heck for him that you can see, just the way she looks at him and later when she says, I know you were capable, but I didn't think you were capable of doing that to me. Right. You can see that in her demeanor in this, he says he's gonna play nice and she doesn't feel threatened, but she did. She wouldn't have let him in,
Garret:it was really good chemistry All right.
Aaron:Mm-hmm, moving on chapter seven, the lonely grave of Polish S Schults it starts out with bill and bud talking and Bill's forewarning, that Bud's in danger and that he needs to quit being mad at him. and then he tells them that he pawned his to Hanzo sword for two 50 bucks. Yeah. not El Paso So, uh, it, it's pretty cool because, bud gets home from the, his job at the club. We can talk about that a little bit about that after, so he gets home and you just see him in a rocking chair. Some Johnny Cash plan. And as soon as Beatrix tries to open the door, he blast her with rock salt from a shotgun. and she goes flying back Yeah. Yeah. Ah, man.
Garret:That part was crazy.
Ashley:Definitely the most vulnerable we've seen her so far,
Aaron:Mm-hmm cause she
Garret:goes flying. She opens that door and it's only a few feet from that shotgun and he fires it, he says, somebo, like having rock salt, inter tits. And I was just like, oh God, she's covered and she's bleeding and it's
Aaron:painful as hell. after he shoots her and she passes out, he ties her up and when she wakes up, she's in the back of a truck and she sees somebody digging the grave. and it turns out to be his, pint size friend, Ernie and they bury her under the grave, of Paula S Schult.
Ashley:Well, it's empty now. The casket was on the side with the body, right.
Aaron:It wasn't empty before you could see. Yeah Oh They barrier with a flashlight in the wooden coffin it's crazy because you really feel like you're in that coffin with her when they're hammering it down and you can hear this stuff of
Ashley:my nightmares. When the dirt hits the top, it's so loud. And then you can hear it getting further away, which is more dirt in between. I it's a very small space. I don't like,
Garret:claustrophobic is a nightmare
Ashley:Did you know Back in the day that people were so afraid of being buried alive, that they'd put bells in their caskets, like a string that they would pull in case they were alive. because people were getting buried alive and they would like pull, yeah, they'd pull'em up. And they're like, those fingernails were ripped off. Yeah. They finger was a weird thing.
Aaron:yeah I remember reading about that
Ashley:Like, Hey, if I get buried alive, I can pull the bell,
Garret:Oh my God.
Aaron:Can you imagine that being a thing? And then you're like, Hmm, no. How can I make some money? Let me invent this bell.
Ashley:yeah, no,
Garret:That whole scene really makes you uncomfortable for her to be in that box. Her arms and feet are still bound yeah. You
Aaron:definitely wonder how in the world she's gonna get out of this first time you're watching it. Oh yeah. And before he puts her in the casket, she tries to struggle a little bit and he puts mace up to her eye. Oh. And he's like, he said, you're going in the ground. You can either go with an eye full of mace or this flashlight. And she never does say anything. She just nods
Ashley:I was thinking up to that point, she hadn't said a word from when she went to attack him. they don't exchange any words. He's
Aaron:one sided. Like he said, Ernie actually says something about, oh, this is what women call the silent treatment. And he says, Uhhuh, we make him think we don't like it or something
Ashley:oh, I know the, his two lines are both shitty.
Garret:yeah
Ashley:He was like I'd see better
Aaron:like I
Garret:almost wish he would've killed him, but I was like, okay, Doug, his little brave and like ran off. I'm like whatever jerk guy.
Ashley:he's got so many options and models around him.
Garret:El Paso
Aaron:A few things that I had about this, backs were, you said she was tied up in the coffin. She pulled a straight razor out of her boot and actually cuts the bondings on her wrist. according to my facts these were the same boots and the same straight razor that Michael Matson had in reservoir dogs. When he cut the police officer's ear off, And that's pretty much all I had about this one. This part, did have, the club scene? Or was that in this chapter?
Ashley:Yeah, so it's bill warning him, and then he goes to work. Okay. And then he gets sent home because he's late.
Aaron:Yeah. he walks into the club owner's office and the girl's doing a line and he is like be somebody baby. We all know that guy.
Ashley:I thought it was pretty genius when he was like you're basically talking yourself out of your own job oh you're not needed
Aaron:Yeah. You're telling me that the job I'm paying you to do, you can't do because you don't have a job to do, so right. But something I thought was funny about that. So we had that cowboy hat on Michael Madson did. the club owner's like that hat, that F and hat, how many times have I told you not to wear that PO dunk hat in here? Something like that. Michael Madson didn't know that that line was gonna be in the movie. He wanted to wear that hat and Quent Tarantino. Hated it. So he wrote that in the movie.
Ashley:Just to be like I told you
Aaron:that this stupid that's funny. Yeah. So I thought that was hilarious, can you imagine the first time, he thinks another line's coming and he's like what man? He is like, yeah. Like
Ashley:he takes it off. I think this is why I didn't consider him on the level of all the other assassins, because he's fallen so far. all of them out of the game. Right. Except for maybe L Bernita gave a hell of a fight, a era or Herre Ishi. Likehis oh, it's aha. Nevermind. Anyway. so I feel like she gave a hell of a fight, and then you, this, this guy who actually got the leg up on her by shooting her with a shotgun, but he is really pathetic,
Aaron:you realize how pathetic he really is when he's like clean up the poopy watch. Yeah. Go talk to diamond. She's got job for you. you think, okay, maybe she's got a hit And then She has to clean up water in the bathroom,
Garret:Ugh
Aaron:was the bartender in there? the guy that played the clown in house of a thousand corpses or was I crazy for seeing that? No idea. I know. All I have to add that in later if it is, but I think it is, I meant to look it up, but I forgot. I got no clue. Okay We got three chapters. Let's press on chapter eight. This word throws me every time. The cruel tutelage of pie. Oh, I
Ashley:love tutelage when they said that I'm like, man, you don't get to use tutelage enough.
Aaron:Yeah. Kind of like the next thing with L and I, when she's talking about Garen, but yeah. Tutelage, how would you, what is a tutelage? The journey is a tutor, a journey.
Ashley:I thought that's what tutors was short for but I felt like I was just making up my own fact,
Garret:it says like total age protection of, or authority over someone, something or guardianship.
Ashley:Wow. Mm-hmm for like being the
Aaron:master. Okay Mm-hmm So kiddos buried in the coffin under the grave, Apollo Schultz. She recounts her first time being told about the great white Lotus ninja PI may by bill they're sitting around a campfire so he is telling the story, about PI may passing a monk and giving him the slightest nod and whether the monk saw it or not, he didn't return the nod. So PI may pretty much went and killed the whole Mon hood, killed him all. bill says, Hey, PI may, will accept being your master. But then he warns her that, Pade does not like women Caucasians. Or any SAS. He is like, if you show him any kind of sass, he'll pluck your eye out which mm-hmm comes into play later. Rich. We know. Yeah. Mm-hmm she walks up the stairs and she tests PI may it's one of those off the wall fights over dramatic. And she realizes how powerful he is. He accepts her to be his student and goes into extremely cruel and physically demanding training methods, which make her an incredibly fighter. He teaches her how to punch a hole through solid wood and how to eat with chopsticks. I don't think
Garret:why in there.
Ashley:Well it's a major scene and and so symbolic it's yeah, she's been punching all day. Her knuckles are so bloody. She can't hold the traffic cause she's starving. And he throws her food on the floor. It's you're gonna eat like a dog. And then she has to like buck up and get the food in her mouth even then the music changes and he gets like that, like, yeah, like a nod of
Garret:Approval.
Aaron:during the training at first, he's just, completely. Yes. He's bootcamp,
Ashley:right? He's breaking
Aaron:her down Yeah
Ashley:Like your Mandarin sucks It's the first thing he says is like you're Mandarin his
Aaron:yeah. She says one word and he's oh, wait. Wasn't at Cannes. No, It was Mandarin first. Yeah.
Ashley:Oh, okay. But then there was Japanese later that he says he despises
Aaron:yeah, a bunch of Woodhead, something. You can see at first he does this angry beard whip, but then the beard whips get less like angry and then the no of approval. Start coming more
Ashley:like, huh. you're right. Mm-hmm I didn't notice that the drama of the beard whip is like,
Garret:yeah, it was just always like flapping back. He was like, yes. And like tossing it and then walking away. And I was like, oh, I like this guy.
Ashley:That character, wasn't a new character. He was from other movies.
Aaron:but yeah, he was based on a character, the white haired Lotus from older Kung Fu movies. And like Ashley said earlier, Quentin Tarantino considered playing it himself before he picked the guy that played Johnny Moe. I'm glad he didn't. That would've been awesome. Yeah. I'm with you.
Ashley:I think it quoted him as it would've been a pain in the ass to do that
Aaron:It also said that once he found the actor for PME, he was gonna have PME speak only in Cantonese and do the bad American dub over, like they used to do and it was gonna be Gino's voice. Oh, oh, gotcha. he abandoned the idea and let P may speak for him. I like how they did that. That was, oh yeah. It was like, this is good, good scene. the first fight he's like, what are you proficient in? She's like, I'm proficient with the Samura sword. He's like grab one, if you like one blow, I will call you master. And she's trying. And he's like you know, yeah. He's
Garret:like Uhhuh,
Ashley:but he does you're you my student So she's proficient enough, but definitely not.
Aaron:Eventually he says have you ever felt pain like this before And she's like, no. And he is like, do you wanna possess this power? And she's like, yeah. And like you said, he judges her worthy and he's like, your training begins tomorrow.
Ashley:Beard whips and walks away. exit stage lift
Aaron:but there was one point like Ashley said where she's punching this board She's punching oh yeah. So much. And she actually hits the wall in her sleep. being in basic training, I feel like we've all done. Something like that. You know where you're doing something repetitive over and over and over mine was like
Ashley:falling asleep while you're marching. I'm like, who falls asleep while they're walking and stays in
Aaron:step, you can still stay in step, you wake up. You're like,
Garret:whoa,
Aaron:terrifying one more thing. Yeah. So at the end of the chapter, it goes back to her in the coffin and it goes back to her with the, oh yeah. Three inch punch punching the hole through the board. So she punches the top of the casket. And does this crazy swim up to the top? Oh yeah. Yeah. Handout, like the old zombie. Yes. And can you imagine being the guy in the diner?
Garret:no,
Ashley:but she's still so polite. He's
Aaron:have a water
Garret:man. Glass of
Aaron:water please, but right. He's just watching her walk. Dust is flying off of her and she just sit there. he's like all the night. Huh? Yeah. You can have whatever you want.
Ashley:Give her a piece of pie She's turned it but again, to me, it turned around right at the rice eating scene, like the music changed and then you you go back to the casket, you see her demeanor of like, this is not over, and that's when it
Aaron:gets real. Yeah. She punches it a couple times and you can see the blood, like nothing. And I mean, you could see like the skin coming off. And I was like, ah, like I was just
Garret:cringing. Cause you could just feel how
Aaron:much that would've hurt. Did they not put the casket, the other casket back on top of her or.
Ashley:Guess not, I was wondering was it out, just laid out there? Did they take with,'em
Aaron:sure they had to do something with it because somebody would know that
Ashley:again there's no repercu for anything Like anybody can do whatever they want she's just leaving bodies.
Aaron:And that's something that I'm gonna talk about later when we're done with so chapter nine L and I, it starts out with L driver, which is the California mountain snake, Darrell. Hannah shows her driving up to Bud's trailer. first of all, bud calls L and tells her that he has a Tori Zo sword and that he has killed black Mamba. they make a deal for$1 million for the Tori Hanzo and the location of where she's at. El shows up the next morning. They make a couple margaritas. She hands him a suitcase and he's like, that's my money. Isn't it. as they're talking, he's asking her questions, like, what's your biggest regret? she's casually drinking her margarita he opens up the suitcase starts unfolding the money and there's a black Mamba stashed inside the money. It bites him in the face three or four times. and he's done. While he is sitting there swelling up she starts talking to him and says that her biggest regret is that he got to kill Beatrix, the greatest warrior I ever met died at the hands of a piece of like you mm-hmm after that Al calls bill and tells her that black Mamba killed bud, and that she killed the black Mamba, after she hangs up with bill, she starts collecting all her money. Beatrix shows up and they start battling, it's an epic fight inside the trailer.
Ashley:Oh yeah. Oh, I love this part because First of all, it starts out, you just see her two, flying feet. she opens the door dirty, like dirty feet, And then the trailer is too small for this battle and that makes it comical, but also strategic it's like they can't open the sword, and they keep doing stuff, but it's too small. it just makes it like, oh, how is this gonna pan out? they could probably an open space do this really quickly. But in there
Aaron:and it's like a crappy trailer. So they're flying through walls, you know? Oh yeah. It's like paneling, no insulation, no wiring. Yeah, nothing. as they're battling L informs, Beatrix that she killed PMA cause Beatrix asked her, so why did PME rip your eye out? it actually says why she's wearing an eye patch. Elle informs her that she killed PME by poisoning his fish heads. Yeah. And that just pisses Beatrix off. she actually rips out L's eye
Garret:Her other eye
Ashley:her only I
Aaron:There was a part earlier when bill called her before she was gonna poison her, where he was like, you saw it with your beautiful blue eye yeah,
Ashley:I admit, I didn't see that one coming the first time. Obviously. I knew it happened when I watched it again, but I didn't know that's where that was going and it no happened so quickly they're in it. And then all of a sudden it was over and the her right thing or whatever you call that was just like, where she's still like talking Like I'm gonna kill you. You get back here. Mm-hmm
Garret:you know, and it's just, but she's oh yeah. she's going crazy in psycho
Aaron:so that part was actually improvised She did that as a joke to make Quentin Tarantino laugh. she just started going all crazy. And he actually kept that final scene in the film. It was so good. Like,
Ashley:I couldn't see was really good. That's how someone would respond if their eye was ripped out.
Aaron:Yeah. Plus you would not, she actually sustained like a few injuries from hitting the mirror and falling down. Like she got cuts and scrapes and stuff from doing that. Oh man.
Garret:dude. you really felt like her eye was just taken out and she was having a natural reaction ING and going crazy. you kind of felt bad for it, but at the same time you were like, you got what you deserve,
Ashley:She was the dirtiest of all of'em. I felt like some of them have morals. Ish. Bud like felt like she deserved her revenge. Aran apologized and black MABA was like, come on, I've changed. I've got a daughter. Her lost.
Aaron:And I thought It was great because it was like overdramatic, like some of the old marsh she's like, that's why I killed your master of that miserable old fool, yeah. Yeah. That was cool dialogue. And it also shows in that scene where, Beatrix gets thrown through a wall and she looks up and sees buds. Tori Hanzo that he said he pawned. Yeah, he didn't. It said it would describe, right. What did it say? It said was too bud. the only other man I've ever loved
Ashley:Bill, you know, was from bill. Yeah.
Aaron:Cause
Garret:his, his brother
Aaron:It was funny cuz she's like, is that what I think it is? Al says that to Beatrix and she's like bud said pawn that and she just says something like, I guess that makes him a liar now don't it
Ashley:it was Western I guess that makes him a liar then Don The dialogue kind of outta character, but I was like, okay.
Aaron:this is one that they don't necessarily count as a kill because she was still alive, even though she's blind and bleeding and right. There is a black Mamba around the trailer that she brought in there with them. But, all right. We have come to the last chapter face to face. This chapter starts with Beatrix I think it's a Carmen GIA little Volkswagen and it shows her driving through a grassy landscape and she ends up at a brothel run by the former father figure of bill and bud Esteban. After talking for a while, Esteban points Beatrix to where bill is. She asked him she's like where's bill. And he tells him the only reason that I'm telling you where bill is, is because bill would want you to know, that's kinda what he wants me to That's the
Ashley:same actor we were talking about that. And my favorite line of his was something. I must warn you. Like, I something about compliments
Aaron:Oh, acceptable to like flattering. Yeah. I'm yeah. Accessible flattering. Yeah. Yeah. I, but it makes him seem like he's this real swab dude, but then when you realize that he has a house full of prostitutes So Beatrix arrives at Bill's Villa, guns in hand, she has her to Zo. It's making a look like she's gonna sneak in and kill bill. And she's horrified when she walks in the door and bill and their daughter, BK are standing there.
Ashley:Yeah they knew she was coming
Aaron:the first time I saw this, I was expecting something way different. Yes. Way different. So she plays along with them for a while in, in their game of cowboy and Robert they pretend to
Garret:shoot her with,
Aaron:with the toy bang mommy. That's right. Yes. Bang, bang. right. she realizes that her daughter is alive Bill's making sandwiches and they're kind of just having talks and Bill's on us with BB and is like, yeah, daddy shot mommy. that scene,
Garret:man. You didn't expect it to play out. Like it did. It's just all this very blatant honesty of what's happened, feelings, emotions. I just wasn't prepared for it, but it made for a very emotional, but like driving scene that you're like, what's gonna happen. Yeah.
Aaron:Because. she's with her daughter but Bill's there bill knows she's there to kill him. after playing, along with him, she actually puts BB to bed and they're watching show gun assassin, which is been sampled in the RS music many times. But, she comes out and she's like, all right. we got business to handle.
Ashley:Do you feel like the scene with Vivica and her daughter was a a foreshadow for this of. I'm not scared to kill you in front of your daughter. I don't want to, but it's not gonna stop me. And I kind of feel like this, where bill was sort of using the daughter as like a little middle, like, Hey, but I have this and I raised her and I'm saying, I'm sorry through her. well, but,
Aaron:it's such
Garret:a shock she's thinking these entire time we know she's alive, but this is her first time seeing it. She's getting revenge cuz she thinks that part of her life has been stolen, which it has, but she thinks the other part is being a mother. And to get that back, it's gotta be a complete mind, I wanna say something else, but like
Aaron:vendor, Yes,
Garret:my vendor. You can see her grapple with everything and she's like, what the heck do I do? Yeah.
Aaron:So nice after she puts her to bed, she sits down casually and she sees bill ator, ZOS sword sitting there. And as soon as she lunges for it, he pulls out a gun and shoots her in the kneecap. But it's not with a bullet though. It's with a dart of a toxin called the. undisputable truth true serum. Yeah. True serum. I think that's why maybe he didn't kill her because he wanted answers.
Ashley:I think there's a part of him in the beginning where he's like talking to El, he's like, come on, we we're better than that. I think he wouldn't take her down by shooting her. You know what I mean? Like that wouldn't be a Warrior's death that wouldn't be like them going head to head.
Aaron:so he's asking her questions on, why did you leave? first of all, she didn't want BB to be in the assassin life. she wanted her to live a regular life and he, she knew that bill would claim her to become an assassin and she didn't want that. And then I think he asked her if she's enjoyed all the killing to get to him. and she's like, yeah.
Ashley:She's fighting it though. it's like, she wants to say no, but then the true serum it's almost like liar liar where he is like the pen is blue
Aaron:yes. I thought this was cool where he compared her to Clark Kent, being a superhero because he said, that those superheroes put on their costume to become, a superhero. And she's a superhero that puts on a costume to become normal. and there was another question that he asked her too, that,
Ashley:did she think that living
Aaron:at oh yeah. That's what it was gonna work. And she said, no
Ashley:They said, but I would've had BB
Aaron:So eventually they get to where they're gonna fight. this is a very short fight scene. they're going at it. And she uses the five point Palm exploding, heart technique taught by PME. When bill is telling the story of P May's tutelage earlier the film, he's saying that this was a, a forbidden technique that PME has never taught anybody else and never will. as soon as she hits him with it, he's like, PI may taught you the technique. And she's like, of course he did. She's like course season
Ashley:did. She got what's his name to make her a sword. She's a master,
Garret:she's good. But that fight scene was really cool. Like they're in a chair and it wasn't long, but it was just different Cuz they're both using the swords and then she's like, screw this. I'm just gonna hit it with a punch and then does it I really enjoyed that. however I did hear, she had to do her own stunt with a car. And there was an accident where Her knee was injured and I wonder if any of those injuries that she sustained in this accident prevented her from doing something that was a bit larger than life. I never,
Aaron:that,
Garret:granted I'm happy the way it ended, but I'm wondering if there was more like that was written down.
Ashley:Back in the day when you would watch like N a like fighting, you would see like different fight styles, but now they have to know every fight style. And so to me, it's almost like when two people who are really good at the same fight style, link up, they're the other person doesn't get very far because they know the moves, I guess, is what I'm saying. So this seemed very appropriate for me because they were both masters and it was almost like they anticipated each other so much they weren't gonna get very far, like she caught the sword in the sheath of the other sword, it was just like they were matched. And when you watch MMA now, every movement is a weak spot. So they just get locked together and nobody can make a move. And I felt like that's what they were doing is like stunting each other. And then she was just like, let's just end this.
Aaron:That's true. I didn't think about it that way. yeah. Why, draw this out? Let's just finish it.
Ashley:And I think that's also not what we were expecting. We watch her take down the crazy 80 eights, and there were these long fight scenes where this was just like, I wanna be with my daughter let's move on to that life. Correct. It was touching, no, she touched the scene at the end.
Aaron:You could talk. They did, because he asked her, he said, why didn't you tell me that P may taught you this technique. And you can see the respect because he can't move. And she's just like, because I'm a bad person and he's like, no, you're not, you're my favorite person. But sometimes you can be kind of a Oh my God. So funny. Yeah. No, best, but you can still see the respect because there's something there he's like, how do I look? And she says, ready, I believe is what she says.
Garret:She played this part so well, everything that's going on, you feel the compassion yet. She's still angry, wants to revenge. she gives you all the notes that you're wanting from somebody who's in her predicament. And she just gives it to a hundred percent. They could not have cast this better.
Ashley:She came up with that character really from when Erin was talking about those two, talking about it, she said, I wanna play this bride who wakes up beaten. And that's when they started calling her the bride, so it was her character
Aaron:mm-hmm the movie ends with Beatrix. takes BBE and she's in a hotel. It pretty much ends with her crying in the bathroom floor. And she's crying and laughing. And she's saying, thank you, maybe because baby's still alive or that's
Ashley:What I was thinking is that she's got a gift,
Garret:think about it. She's gone through, she literally drug herself up from a grave, twice. she was in a coma, she thought she lost her kid. She killed everyone. She wanted to, except for Elle. But Elle is zero threat to her now, unless there's some cyber thing that happens
Ashley:blind period
Garret:But she's done everything she's accomplished and she's gotten her daughter back, and she's killed the one person that put her through all this. So, I mean, like there's a lot of mixed emotions she's gonna be going through. I think she captures that while she's on the floor. And then when she crawls back into the bed with her daughter and she's like, this is my life now. I think a fitting ending.
Aaron:I agree. Is
Ashley:the one arm Sophia
Aaron:yeah, she, she is. we got another one. some of the facts that I had about this one was that BBE BB. Stood for bill and Beatrix, it never really says what BB stands for. Oh. But both her names start with B. So that was just kind like that observation. and in the part where she's talking to Estaban, the females in the back are actually sex workers from where they were filming at was in a Mexican brothel. I'm not sure about the blonde that comes up with the cut lip. I hope not, but the other ones were and in the original script it was supposed to be the 10 point Palm exploding heart technique, but he changed it to five point poem technique that's a little excessive. I mean,
Garret:It looks like she sign languages to her in his
Aaron:right or maybe it was all the injuries from the accident something about the accident that I saw UMMA Thurman was one of the first people to speak out about Harvey Weinstein and all of the accusations. So one of the things that caused the mistrust was she thought maybe she had been set up to have that accident. just silence her because Harvey Weinstein wouldn't give her the film that she was requesting. So gross of the accident she did eventually get the film And her and Tarantino, are on talking terms now I guess, Oh. And they did say that if there was ever another kill bill, that UMO Therma would not be in it. But
Ashley:like she said that or
Garret:no, she's actively trying to get kill bill three made and have it from, I think the perspective of Nikki taking her revenge, like Beatrix and her daughter now 20 years older, are possibly running from Nikki, you know, trying to get her event. So they they've been trying to get this made, but it's been stuck it would, but Quent Tarantino, he's close to retiring. I think he said, he's got one more movie left. without him, you don't really have another kill bill, right?
Ashley:You're not gonna have the aesthetic And that's what makes the movie
Aaron:that's right.
Garret:I kind of hope that they don't do it If they do cool. But this movie was so perfectly done is one and two, it might do a disservice to do a three and if it's not as good,
Aaron:Why mess with perfection? Some of the movies that I would like to see would be the Viper squad, like in their prime, I think would be pretty cool to show when they were all together, or even the early life of bill,, if that was him with Rin, that'd be cool. of course the daughters grown now, trying to get revenge on each other, Or if the crazy, the rest of the crazy 80 eights and they're gang want revenge on the bride, come looking for mm-hmm which would go with Yuki's revenge or, you know Gogo. Yeah. And one other thing I had written down here, we were talking about trying to do a crossover I forgot about that. Well, something popped into my head. So I was thinking of a crossover between kill bill and king of the hill. You could call it hill, hill And it's bill. Remember? They're dumb friend, bill. Yeah. Bill is on revenge. Oh, who got the divorce? Yeah. To kill Hank Dale. And Boomhower his swords and sorts. That'd be funny, Yeah. When you said that earlier, that's why I was laughing. that's funny. Yep. So that is kill bill, everything You need to know if there's anything we missed or anything you'd like to add. Please let us know. We're always glad to hear from you thank you all for listening and please check us out@ournatalpodcast.com. Facebook, Instagram, listen to us anywhere you get your podcast, subscribe, share, and please leave us a review. Let us know what we're doing. Right. And be nice on what we're doing wrong. constructive feedback. Yeah. We're open to constructive criticism. Just heck yeah, we are. Yeah, just don't be too sassy snake about it. So Hey. Hey,
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