All 80s lovers remember 16 candles! It had love, comedy, JAKE RYAN! Hang with the gang as we go over John Hughe's directorial debut! WE cover characters, plot, cast along with things that might not have aged so well and who we'd cast in the movie if it were to be made again!
All 80s lovers remember 16 candles! It had love, comedy, JAKE RYAN! Hang with the gang as we go over John Hughe's directorial debut! WE cover characters, plot, cast along with things that might not have aged so well and who we'd cast in the movie if it were to be made again!
What's a happening hot stuff? It's me, Ashley
Aaron:hello. Nostalgic friends, I don't know how to follow that up, but this is Aaron
Garret:This is Garrett. And you're listening to Nostalgic Season two.
Aaron:season two What
Ashley:It's 2023 Hey yo.
Garret:I hope 2023 takes a bath and is a lot cleaner and better than all the years in the past three
Ashley:Yours really took a nose dive there at the end.
Aaron:Yeah. And you had enough water up there to take a lot of baths,
Garret:I don't want no water. I don't want no rain. I feel like I'm like, girl, I missed Doubtfire. I don't do windows, I don't do diapers.
Ashley:I don't do the boys. Cuz it used to be one
Garret:God, that movie was good. Speaking of movies,
Ashley:I'm excited. We are talking about 16 candles. Ooh, It is one of the John Hughes family and our next mini In January. We're gonna rate the John Hughes movies, but it's not gonna be a secret that this is my top John Hughes movie. There was a close second, you'll have to listen to the mini to figure out what number two is. That was on its tails. But 16 candles is eighties bliss. we're gonna do a breakdown of, the main characters and go over some of the things that didn't age so well. And also if it was cast today, who would we see in these roles? So the premise is Sam, who's played by Molly Ringwald just turned 16 She's your typical teenager and talking on the phone and she's like, oh, I need to go downstairs because everybody's gonna wanna wish me happy birthday. And then we realize that her sister's wedding is coming up and everyone has forgotten her birthday. and then it comes on this opening scene where it's her high school and it's just eighties glory, and a lot of those have come back. Did you notice the shoes,
Aaron:Oh, for sure.
Garret:I thought of you when I saw the converse
Ashley:yeah. The Chucks and the, shell Adidas are back. and some of the styles with the way that they wore their pants cuz they weren't flattering and I kind of find that now. But they're
Aaron:did you notice that a lot of those scenes are featured in weird science also? The same exact scenes? it is filmed in the same high school and everything
Ashley:is weird. No, no. I rewatch weird science. Yes, I'll have to look at that. I mean, I don't really wanna watch word signs again.
Aaron:Um,
Ashley:Main character was played. Why America's sweetheart molly Ringwald if you're not from the eighties, one of the recent things that you've seen her in is she played the Stepmom and Dahmer, which was super popular on Netflix.
Aaron:When I was watching that, I'm like, she looks so familiar. we're all the same way. It drive us nuts when we see a character. Oh yeah. We know, we know them from something else. I looked it up, I'm like, Molly? I'm like, no
Garret:See, I can't watch it. I just have a thing about like real stuff that can, it's pretty tough. D Dahmer, I got friends in crawl spaces. No thanks.
Aaron:Yeah. But she is eighties big thick glasses. Yeah. It's
Ashley:eighties. All the way, like the Bob, You're watching it and you're like, where do I know her? Once you see it, you can't unsee it., totally Molly Ringwald. So then the heartthrob of the movie is Jake Ryan, if you talk to anyone from our generation, Jake Ryan is the ultimate heartthrob. Mm.
Aaron:Michael's shuffling. Is that how you
Ashley:say his name? Yeah, I was saying shuffling. The funny thing is, recently some paparazzi caught him and he was grocery shopping and it was like, Jake Ryan's resurfaced and he doesn't look anything like, oh my god, he's got a gray ponytail, some glasses. Poor guy was just out picking up his farmer's market goods and somebody realized they trader Joe. Yeah.,
Aaron:yeah, he was 24 four when this movie was filmed. Wait, he was mm-hmm.
Garret:he did look older,
Ashley:all of the freshmen were their ages, And then the seniors were 24 because Caroline was 24
Garret:well I figured that because they showed her boobies
Aaron:from my notes, I have Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hollis being 15 when this movie was, oh yeah.
Ashley:Where are they? Cause I read 17, but that's worse
Aaron:You talk about the booby showing part, which you know, it's random scenes and all of a sudden it just pops up.
Ashley:just, I love the sound effect. It goes, wow, But
Aaron:that actually was not her, it was a body double. Oh, because, oh, really? the premise of it was Molly Ringwald and her friend Randy, I think was her name. Robin, was it Robin?
Ashley:It's Randy. Mm-hmm. Because I'm looking at baby names and I was like, woo, Randy
Aaron:So they are, talking about They're breast size. And in reality, they both had bigger boobs than she. and she didn't feel comfortable saying, you know, so they had a body double when she did the shower scene. Oh,
Ashley:okay. Mm-hmm. that's what The weird part of it is, is where everybody wants to look like the seniors they're mid twenties Right.
Garret:Not even high school. Yeah. that, makes it completely different. Thought it was funny I didn't know it was a body double, but I was thinking she was gonna be what age she is now and whenever she would see the movie, she'd be like, God, I had good boobs.
Ashley:Oh, right. She's like,
Garret:cause you don't really have pictures of yourself naked that you would reminisce on.
Ashley:She showed up every Christmas to the kids. They're like, ah, she, grandma
Aaron:show us your scene. This is when grandma had a B cup.
Ashley:Look Harold, she has boobies.
Aaron:I was conflicted on the scene cuz when they first pop up you're like, boobies and you're like high school boobies. No, no, no,
Ashley:It is weird. And we'll talk about it. But that's the trouble I had with the re casting is I'm like, yes. Oh my god. High school thank school kids and I feel like a dirty old lady. Mm-hmm. we'll get to it, but a little bit about Jake. he didn't really have a lot of credits. Even though everyone knows him from this, he didn't really take off. he was in mermaids with Cher, if you guys remembered that one with Winona Ryder and Christina Ricci and like I do, but I don't remember him. He was the one, Winona, had a crush on. I. okay. I need to rewatch it though, but, and then there was one, have you ever heard of the movie Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken. It came out in 91. What is it about?
Garret:Oh, have I seen it? No. Have I heard of it? Yes. Like
Ashley:What would you think it would be about? I
Garret:would say it's a romantic movie. No.
Ashley:I've always heard this but I never saw it and it sounds like something I'd be into. It's about like, he works in a circus and this girl he is falling in love with, he's trying to get her to dive off of high dives with horses. So broken like a horse. And I was like, I would never watch,
Garret:I almost watched that. But the premise that as just said, I don't understand why it wasn't a blockair buster.
Ashley:can see why I didn't watch it,
Aaron:You talked about him not having, many more credits I read that he bombed the audition. He was super shy and he almost didn't get the part, but they were just so enamored with him in the way he looked. He's so beautiful.
Garret:Really,
Aaron:it's just funny. All these doors just keep opening up like
Ashley:that 30 rock episode where the guy's so good looking, she's like, this isn't how real world works. But yeah, because, Okay, let's be honest. Even with him being in it, his lime delivery is terrible, but you just don't care. when they're doing the pullups and he is like, she's not ugly also, they're not even really doing pullups. I have no idea what that I know. Is that one?
Aaron:Yeah. What's the point?
Garret:I have to admit as you were saying, it's kind of weird going back and recasting but looking at him and remembering things in my youth, I was like, God, he is still really good looking.
Ashley:I'm surprised I didn't get any part of life. Really good looking. He's,
Garret:I know,, I, thought the same thing.
Aaron:Now I have people that almost got the part. It was down to him. And also Vigo Mortenson from mm-hmm.
Ashley:Lorraine. Mm-hmm. Wow. What did he look like when he was younger? Because I only know him like he was older.
Garret:I don't see it, don't get me wrong, he's a good looking guy, but you know how they get somebody and it's a certain type and Vigo is more, he just looks different.
Ashley:but Jake is, Metro. He's pretty, he's smooth. He has cropped eyebrows. I mean, the hair untouchable.
Garret:I wouldn't say he's pretty,
Ashley:did you say eyelashes? I would kill for those eye Are you kidding me? I'm so jealous of Jake Ryan and his uv, it's lasted the ages. We're still talking about Jake Ryan True, I mean, He's got
Aaron:it. What, what? Yeah. She was in love with them without ever even talking to him in you know? Yeah. I mean,
Ashley:he doesn't even mean you're not have lines in the beginning. then when he does I'm like, he doesn't need to talk they're not great.
Aaron:Don't speak You're pretty in
Garret:your own way. The other lead I would like to discuss, he steals the whole movie. If you didn't have your little love story, it would be the Farmer Ted show. Anthony Michael Hall, not to be mistaken for Michael Sea Hall, If I say that, just know that I'm talking about Farmer Ted, a k a King of the Nerds. from his entrance, the music, is like burner, I was trying to figure out how to explain his demeanor because he is a total nerd and he has no experience confident. Yes, you can tell he's copying off his parents or something. So He comes in with this idea of what he thinks he should be saying. Mm-hmm. it's great. the part where he is making Jake the martini oh, yes know. And he's like pretzel, like he's hosting him
Aaron:he's like the old weathered bartender, whole Totally, yeah. And he's like, just love that kinda thing. Like he has any idea what he's talking about, you know,
Garret:he's fantastic. A lot of those eighties actors dropped off, they were kind of picking up scraps after a while. And I think with his character, he was typecast cuz he played a similar character in a bunch of movies. But he was a really good actor.
Ashley:I had a really hard time re casting him because I'm like, who else could do this? That,
Aaron:That was a tough one to recast. Jim Carey actually auditioned to play that. Part
Ashley:the problem with Jim Carey is I don't see him as a romantic with him. I'm like, he's cute in a way that you're like, I don't know, you kind of wanna give him a chance.
Garret:I think what got him is that he's a nerd, but he's subtle about it. Where Jim Carey is more of a physical comedy actor. Right. And would, you could play the same character in two different ways. Jim could have brought something very different to it, but I think Anthony's nerdiness and not played up to like the dorky glasses. the pocket protector, all the stuff that you would normally get in Revenge of the Nerds or something like that. The fact that he played it like a normal person probably got him the role. everyone else on the air bus, it was so satire they have the gun, they're like direct hit. Oh all the band nerds that are playing the team
Ashley:Everybody else around them was so over the top that it did make them a little more subtle in their characters you obviously had Jake as the jock and the popular group, but Molly was kind of mid-level where people knew she was, they said hi to her, but she wasn't one group
Garret:right.
Ashley:on Farmer Ted he has been with John, who's since National Lampoon's vacation. He played Rusty in the first one, and he has been acting pretty consistently ever since. I know you said he hadn't had any big roles, I just didn't recognize him. the one time that I realized it was the same person was in Edward Scissorhands. He plays the Jerk Boyfriend I love that movie, and I had no idea. And Finally I looked him up one day and I was like, oh my God, it's former Ted because he like got a neck He got thick. He's a big dude. I'm trying to think of what else.
Aaron:He had his own series. What was the name of? That's when I realized who it was. Yeah,
Garret:that's me too. Was it like, like
Aaron:Dead? Dead Zone or something. I don't know. But I didn't realize it was him until one day it just clicked.
Ashley:I remember seeing the picture of Dead Zone, but I hadn't watched it.
Aaron:I have a few facts on him the part of Farmer Ted was written specifically for him after Hughes worked with him on National Lampoon's vacation. He had him in mind when he wrote that part. For 16 candles? Yes, for 16 candles.
Garret:wow. That's cool. Mm-hmm. pretty big. If they're gonna write you into a movie and you're an unknown
Ashley:ish.
Aaron:Yeah. Mm. The reason they call him Farmer Ted, which they don't really say in the movie that his name is Ted Farmer.
Garret:Oh
Ashley:I have no idea to
Aaron:call roll. They would call the last name first. And that's how he got the name Farmer Ted.
Ashley:That's how funny. Cuz you're right, they never explained it I guess I kind of wondered,
Aaron:farmer. No. Yeah. And when you talk about him being in a lot of John Hughes movies, Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall had a huge falling out because he them for Ferris Bueller's Day off. And they both rejected the roles that he had'em in. They wanted to go their own separate ways. And that was the split between them.
Ashley:What? it wasn't like, Hey, I don't wanna do the movie, I want a different role in the movie.
Aaron:No, I think that they just wanted to get out of the, brat pack and Wow.
Garret:And that kind of killed him though.
Aaron:Yeah, I know, right?
Ashley:One of the other things that makes this movie is the characters that they have in her life., she comes home from school, the house is full it's been a hell of a day because, you know, everybody forgot her birthday. And then the whole thing with Jake not noticing her, and she comes upstairs and it's her grandparents that are staying in her room and they're just your typical grandparents, grandpa's in his underwear and he's just suspenders, they're ironing. And they also forgot her birthday. So it's spreading that it's not just her parents and our family. It's everyone. So you've got the, the stereotypical grandparents, then you have the other grandparents, the feel up grandparents,
Aaron:he always has a bad joke.
Ashley:Wos up the
Aaron:bathroom. Grandpa Howard has been in there for 30 minutes,
Garret:And then the grandmother obviously doesn't help out a lot. Doesn't cook. She doesn't
Ashley:clean. So like that she's smoking over the food.
Aaron:other one's trying to get the ash and she's like, I'll just open up the donuts. Breakfasts
Garret:served. Okay, grandma, you did a lot. And then grandpa, he almost reminded me, I guess in my. Lifetime. I've known more uncles that are like that, that have a joke for every situation. Always cackling at every little thing. He kinda reminded me of those characters, but they put him in sort of a grandfather role, but he just cracked me up like laughing at everything that was going wrong. He is like he
Ashley:He's drug as a skunk
Aaron:When they found long Doug Don. Yeah.
Ashley:So just, the dynamic between the two, the way that they're diverse. One of'em seems more nurturing down home sweet grandpa, they have the foreign exchange student. Then you have the other one that's a little more hands off parenting, like grandma doesn't wanna mess up her nail, she's wearing all the jewels. Right. Her hair is perfect, and then one of the things that I noticed in John Hughes movies, if you remember, like Home Alone, weird science is he always has a thing with having an asshole brother the brother in this. Oh yeah. Such a turd.
Aaron:He is like your typical eighties little brother always has a smart ass comment
Ashley:yeah, one-liners just like, think she's cool. It puts his butt like sofa city sweetheart, you know, like,
Aaron:just puts his glass. Did you notice that she had a little sister? They show her one time. she's In the beginning and never show her again throughout the whole movie. You never said, I
Ashley:think the only thing she says is like, Mike hit me or whatever, and then that's it
Aaron:down. Oh, yeah. You know, and she's just kinda from the background, he's like, I didn't yet, but I'm gonna,
Garret:yeah. She wasn't in any of the other movie.
Ashley:she was at the wedding, but I think that is her only line that I can remember. She's very in the background. She's in there like two more times. Very, Brief. So speaking of the sisters I feel like the older sister is one that you don't get a lot of background for her but, you can just tell she's kind of had everything handed to her. She's, oh
Aaron:God, yeah. You don't like her because it makes her seem like she's almost gonna be a good person. And then
Ashley:she's like, you're being an asshole or whatever, like mm-hmm. she keeps putting the limit on her thing. So one of the things I noticed when I was watching it, which I thought was fun, was looking at the posters and everybody's room, Sam, had think it was Flock of Seagulls and then the sister had a different eighties band. You could just see everybody's room and just see what was happening at the time the brother had Sammy Hagar, it was just fun. Right. Look at the backgrounds in there.
Aaron:it reminded me of something. Molly ring Wall's room was her own taste. She got to decorate a lot of her room. And so a lot of that music and the posters were music that she really liked. The
Garret:actress,
Aaron:in Real Life Oh, Molly Ring. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. When Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald first started working on this project they did not like each other at all. Really. They could not stand each other. So John Hughes noticed this and he took them to a music store and they bonded because they liked the same music. It was one way that he got them to, bonded and eventually they actually dated while they were filming Breakfast Club.
Ashley:Interesting. I was gonna ask, was this the first one they were in together because they were in Yes. One,
Aaron:two, because this was John Hughes, debut. his first directing Oh. Oh
Ashley:man. What a good kickoff. Like for to my favorite. Wow. No kidding. Disperse. Mm-hmm. So that's cool. Now I had no idea. They just work so well together. they do. So then spanning off from the sister, you go into the sister's family, who she's marrying,
Aaron:did you recognize him? No, he's, I mean he looks familiar, but what's he in? What's the He was the janitor in Breakfast club. Oh, okay. Oh, he's been a lot of stuff.
Ashley:A lot of other John Hughes or a
Aaron:lot of, just a couple, but only, small parts in the other John Hughes movies.
Garret:He's been in a bunch of stuff I looked him up cuz he just looked so familiar and it's just been minor characters and all these different movies that, some of you've seen, some of you haven't, but just a ton of minor characters.
Ashley:It's one of those things, you've seen him in everything and not as a lead, but you know him,
Aaron:I really thought the running joke though, with the Riz check, rise check where they kept on getting it wrong and then his parents were in the mob. He's like, I deal with this, that some auto sales, a little bit of politics, a little bit money loaning
Ashley:I thought even the introduction of you get everything you need to know in the two minutes they're at dinner, they're taking shots and the mom's like, woo. She's trying to take a drink and he is like, oh, I can still look right Babe. You're like, okay, this is what they're marrying into. I'm gonna go into some people that Singularly soul scenes, so I'm not gonna go into that yet. But the nerd friends, the level that they go for, farmer Ted's and being the king of the nerds and obviously it's John Cusack and
Aaron:Wes as buddy Wes.
Ashley:And Wes, who I tried to look up that actor's name cuz I felt bad, but I'm like, it's John Cusack. Right? You wouldn't have known he was gonna blow up in John Cusack. Right. They
Aaron:were so funny though, Cause you
Ashley:take those ridiculous things off
Garret:what were those things I got it that they were hyping up, that they were nerdy but what exactly. In the eighties, what the hell were they wearing?
Ashley:They were playing video games when he came over. Right. Cuz they had remote controls. I don't
Garret:know. I am a gamer and I have never worn anything
Aaron:on my head
Garret:that like
Aaron:I dunno, maybe I, so he wrote the scripts for Breakfast Club and 16 Candles John Hughes did at the same time. And Joan Cusack and John Cusack were actually cast for Breakfast Club. But something happened to where this film got made first and they got cut out of the script for Breakfast Club. So this was kinda like a constellation. Roles You kidding? Oh,
Ashley:mm-hmm. And that does segue into Joan, who I left on her own, because she needs her
Aaron:own, there was no point in showing her in this movie, it was hilarious. But she brought nothing to the storyline
Ashley:or anything. Why is she there? She has this huge metal neck brace on, which is so eighties and there's the part where she's dancing and she's getting a drink of water. You could cut her out and be fine. like in the
Garret:movie wouldn't matter. I think sometimes directors or writers, they'll put certain people in as part of the scenery in order to, embellish what's going on. Cause if you're looking at everybody, it's very eighties and this movie just kind of cuts itself out it's like, hi, I'm 1984.
Ashley:Oh yeah. there's the one scene too, again, it, it's not really bringing anything, but it's got the one kid who, his parents keep trying to get him to go to the dance. So they're shoving him in the room and he is like, no, I wanna be home with you. We didn't need to happen. But it is funny, And the other big scenes stealer, is Long Duck Don you have to go in saying it is satire,
Aaron:I know you're probably gonna go into this and things that didn't age well, this one was tough every time he came on it played the gong, And Asians can't drive.
Ashley:it does take it very far.
Aaron:He actually speaks perfect English. If you've ever heard him speak. He faked not being able to speak English and he borrowed his buddies South Korean accent to get this part. He told them that he didn't speak any English when he went to,
Ashley:audition for. Oh. So They didn't know he was faking it.
Aaron:Wow. The big controversy with him, which he's hilarious, and
Ashley:which I was gonna ask, how does he feel about,
Aaron:It's not just him, it's the whole Asian community. he actually got a lot of hate for this role.
Ashley:I think about that now there are a lot of actors that are standing up and saying, no, we're not gonna play these rules. But then you still have ones that are doing it are they at each other? Like, you're holding us back. I mean, you've got the guy in Yellowstone who has literally played the Indian. dances with Wolves. I recognize him from that Right. Legend Falls what is that community like?
Aaron:they said A lot of people were going to anybody they saw that was Asian and quoting Long Duck Dong Oh yeah. And things like that to them. And they keep on referring to him as a China man, but it's actually a South Korean accent. All the gongs and the music that are playing are Japanese. It's just like, it's kinda brag. Oh,
Ashley:and that can totally take us into what didn't age well. when you're saying that, I remember it being so funny and it's probably the thing I busd the most was Long Duck Dong the sexy American girlfriend and Maddi Matti, yeah. And then when I was watching it this time, I kind of feel bad for laughing.
Aaron:It was still funny. Even if, it was. An all Asian movie with a really bad white character. I probably would still laugh Just cause I don't know,
Ashley:We have stereotypes too.
Garret:I think there's a difference because I love the comedy, I'll use Lisa Lampinelli as an example. I like her. She's not popular with everyone, but the reason I like her is that she makes fun of everyone in the room, including herself. there's nothing that's off the table now. I think when it feels like, it's pointed and only pointed, that's when there's an issue. So did, I find the scenes funny. Yes. I laughed at them as a kid. Did I find them a little bit more cringey now? Yes. and I'm one of those people,, I find humor in everything. I think humor helps heal But I do think stereotypes on any level can be harmful. I think what they were going for at the time, you didn't really talk about stuff like that. The, all these hard things you know, racism, prejudice, stereotypes, all that It was brushed under the rug. And with how they used some of the language, it was blase back then because it wasn't talked about. But now that we have evolved it's refreshing that we watch it now where we're like, oh, this isn't cool. because we, we've grown from that. And his character, I think is a point in this movie where it's like, I see what going for. Is it funny now? Uh, maybe because they remind us of laughing as a kid or whatever, but it's kind of offensive
Ashley:You make a good point. Watching? And again, it feels pointed because he is the only diverse character I was having trouble with this on re casting because I was like, man, I'd really like to get some different faces in here. Everyone is white except for long Doug Dong. So the fact that he the only non-white person, it's tough now to watch.
Aaron:Do you think if, an Asian foreign exchange student came over back then and never had experienced any of this, it might really happen like that? He never had a girlfriend and never drank before. Think he might just wilded out
Garret:as far as the character goes, he was a funny character. His slapstick comedy. The fact that he's all over this really tall girl.
Ashley:I love when she says flat and he's like flat
Aaron:now I have a place to put my hands
Garret:he played the character well. it's like they took, little bits of all over Asia to accentuate that he's Asian. and if you took that out and just let him have the humor, it would still be offensive in some ways, but I don't think it would be as. Terrible. it's kind of sweeping racism under the rug in how I'm saying it. It's offensive, but I understand how it can be funny in certain ways. so If that makes sense.
Aaron:He even did say that he had no idea the gongs were gonna be in the movie. So when he watched the movie he was like, they added those. That wasn't even supposed to be in the script or anything. Wow.
Garret:It speaks a lot to how it was back then. And, there were so many times,I was just putting my hand in my palm like, oh God, this is like, this is not h well at all.
Ashley:the other thing which I had a moment with was when. Jake is trying to get Farmer Ted to give Carolyn a ride home and so Jake says something along the lines of Carolyn is wasted and that he could go violate her 10 ways. And I just was like, mm-hmm. Ooh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just not consent full. Like And then Jake sends her off drunk wasted now granted the Carolyn drunken scene crack me up so much when she gives him like birth control and stuff. Yeah. Now we're, but I, oh, that was funny. Yeah, and just the way she was acting, she's like, don't be such a boo, But she's wasted he could have done anything with her. I just saw it a lot differently this time around. seeing some of the things that we see now. Mm-hmm. That we weren't talking about
Aaron:then. Right. No means no
Ashley:It was uncomfortable and then the last thing I had listed for this was going back to the age differences and the actors and Carolyn making out with Ted and Sam and Jake kissing, knowing some of them are underage and some of them aren't, and I just don't know how that got by everybody.
Garret:I do feel like this is different though, cuz they are supposed to be professional actors. They are supposed to be, making it look real as to what they're doing, even though it is fake. I mean, in today's standards, I don't even know in today's standards, if somebody who is young is like, yes, let's do this scene. I know that they're 25, I am 16,
Ashley:My parents signed a waiver.
Garret:I think it all depends on the comfortability of the actor. Because if they're like, this is not me, this is my character. My character is the one that's doing this, I'm not doing this cuz I would never do it, but my character would. So I'm playing true to the character. So I mean, if that's the case, What do you say?
Ashley:When you listen to a lot of child actors now talk about when they were younger and sexualized that this is a big part of it. It has an effect whether they believe it right when they're doing it or not.
Garret:But I think the actor being sexualized and the character having sex or doing something sexual. I think those are two different things. because the actor is the one that can make the choice and be like, I'm not comfortable with doing this, but my character's comfortable with doing it there is a bit of a difference for
Ashley:me. I feel like too now, I don't know if I would be as weird about it because they do have the that go in with these scenes. Oh yeah. What are they called? Called, I don't
Garret:remember.
Ashley:Intimacy
Garret:coordinator, I think is what they're called. Oh
Ashley:yeah, there you go. I think you're right. Good one. Okay. that's most of the characters I do wanna do re casting. But is there any scenes that, the wedding scene is one that really stands out cuz her sister takes too many qua lis Oh dude. And she's hot mess. funny and the short amount of time you see this is what your marriage is gonna be like. Mm-hmm. you don't mm-hmm. need long scenes to get the point of cross of what he was, trying to portray. Yes. And the little lady from Poltergeist makes an entrance.
Aaron:I forgot she was in this movie. Miss
Ashley:Zelda, What is that swishing sound?
Garret:Oh dude, the swishing sound. Every time she walked her booty, like it was just swish,
Aaron:like SpongeBob, like ring, ring, ring, ring. Yeah.
Ashley:Tell me about the wedding scene.
Aaron:So in the wedding scene when Jenny falls, when she's walking down the aisle, because she's had too many the lady's lap that she falls on is actually Jim and John Belushi's mother. Agnes Belushi. Oh, yeah. Famous cameos. And then the reverend Is Brian Doyle, Murray, bill Murray's brother
Garret:i, wait a minute, what
Aaron:say. Bill Murray, that's his brother. He was in
Ashley:Groundhogs Murray's day with them. I remember that. Yep. That's
Aaron:him.
Garret:Like from a different mama or daddy.
Aaron:I don't know. Maybe that's where the Doyle Doyle rules comes from.
Ashley:Doyle Murray. He's a stepbrother.
Garret:I need to look this up. I'm not saying I don't believe you, sounds
Aaron:like you second, second, cousin. This is
Ashley:our backed guy
Garret:here. Aaron always has good facts, but I'm
Ashley:just like, I feel like he's calling in favors. Hey, let's put Ucci mom in there. So he will plan Curly Sue that's
Aaron:like Ron Howard's brother,
Ashley:he's the weirdest looking guy. Ron Howard. Ron Howard brother.
Garret:Oh, oh, oh, uh, what is his name? Mike
Aaron:I was thinking Mo Mo Howard from the cricket.
Garret:Cricket, cricket. That dude has had cameo after cameo. After cameo.
Aaron:I'm not the most handsome man
Garret:He played weird roles I know he was some thing on Star Trek, and he's always just played like creepy mc creep, to the nth
Ashley:degree. When you've got the look,
Aaron:Oh yeah, you've got the look. Sorry.
Ashley:So, yeah, all in all, that really is 16 candles in a nutshell. The storyline is girl likes boy, boy and girl end up together even though they've spoken like two words to each other and they all end up realizing that they forgot her birthday and then dad gives her the talk, which now always makes me think of not another team movie instead of this
Aaron:Where the dad has a serious sit down with Sam
Ashley:and the mom, he's in a Oh yeah, he's in a robe,
Aaron:neither one of those was actually in the original script. Both the actor and the actress that played the mom and the dad went to John Hughes and were like we won our characters to not look like careless parents that never remember. So they wrote that part in,
Ashley:they were like, we need some closure on this. Like, come on, we need to at least acknowledge that.
Aaron:Oops. In the So in the original, write-in for the dad's talk, at the end of it, he asked her what happened to your panties? Because remember she let Ted borrow Yeah. And after they wrote it, they realized that it would be super creepy for a dad to ask the notice that
Ashley:Very inappropriate
Garret:Yeah. Yeah. Good call on that one. God That was good editing. Yeah. Write that out. That's
Ashley:gross. Yeah. That would not have aged in
Aaron:any, the line about the panties where Ted says, can I borrow your underwear for 10 minutes?
Garret:Your underpants. Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron:that line was voted 87 out of the top hundred of the top movie lines of all time. Yeah.
Garret:I thought were say like cringey moments or something. Oh, well
Aaron:that too.
Ashley:I like when they,, they correct it and they go underpants girls underpants. like damnit, he was definitely gonna pull it off with the boys' underpants.
Garret:what is some of your favorite parts of this movie? Because mine is definitely oh look, she's got boobs, and they're so perky.
Ashley:So I think favorite for me, it's just some of the details in it. One of the favorites is when Farmer Ted tries to dance with her at the dance and he's like, oh, right, he's cutting it, and then he farts really loud, which I didn't actually catch the first time around.
Garret:Wait. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What?
Aaron:He twists and does the splits. You know how they used to do the splits and come back up?
Ashley:He tries to do the splits and it goes and they were like, I
Aaron:did not know that you know, I'm not missing a fart in a movie
Garret:I did not hear that.
Ashley:We talked about the wedding scene. I love when she says it's gonna be a pizza cake and she can't feel her hands But the details, when Jake is cleaning up after the party, and the amount of detail they have with the pizza on the record player, and all the stuff everywhere are the jocks. They're building the, beer can tower, the
Aaron:wes knocked it over. Exactly.
Ashley:just that kind of stuff I think is what really makes it for me, the scene too where the girls are really drunk, the popular girls and they cut her hair, know? oh yeah. Just like, oh my God, are you gonna open the
Aaron:door? Are they really this ridiculous? That was a wig? You can tell when you rewatch it. Because ac she actually has red hair and John Hughes wanted Molly Ringwald to be the only redheaded character in the movie. I could see that to stand out. Yeah, that makes sense. Mm-hmm. you can tell though, when you watch it again.
Garret:fun fact about her. she randomly does, acting roles in tv, but she's a real estate broker now. Where like, la. I wanna say California, but I could be wrong.
Ashley:Anybody wanna go house shopping in California?
Aaron:Speaking of real estate, I know we're jumping back and forth here. but the house that Samantha's family lives in is baller, when you're looking at it like, how do these people afford this house? In real life, that's a six bedroom house. And in 2006 it's sold for 1.25 million., imagine what it be worth today. Jake was supposed to be the rich one, but their house looked way nicer than
Ashley:Jake's passing. Yeah, well, I mean, we saw Jake's after a party. Yeah,
Garret:yeah. Jake's house was trash. Have you ever been to a party that the house was that, they had a pizza that we shoved into a broken cabinet that was just hanging. I was like what the hell,,
Ashley:I'm gonna take bets and say that Aaron has, well,
Aaron:no. I actually lived in, When I was in the Air Force, I lived in the house and it became to be known as the House of Sin. I don't know why that's for another podcast, but this house was actually owned by one of Dick Cheney. childhood friends, and it was a party house. I lived there with three or four other airmen, four or five civilians, and it was just a flop house. How big was his house? It was a big old house,
Ashley:six bedroom. Like
Aaron:Molly. It wasn't, it wasn't a 1.25 million house, but it was big. But, we just flopped wherever you could find a place to crash. So this house got trashed. Good old days, it got trashed. Yeah. Like, oh God.
Ashley:Yeah. Hopefully you moved out before the deposit Talk
Aaron:so I actually, know, I got deployed and then when I came back, one of my first in processing was to meet with my commander because he was good friends with Dick Cheney. It started at the top and it trickled all the way down the channey command until it got to mine. And, I had to pay. A lot of the money that I made when I was deployed, went back into the house
Garret:because it was so destroyed or, yes. sinks ripped off walls of
Aaron:what? I had friends that would come over and say we don't even know who lives here. And the cops made it part of their rounds every night they would patrol and just break up the party. And I stick out compared to a lot of people that were Flag me down.
Garret:Yeah. They'd
Aaron:like, walk us through. And I would've to walk through and be like, all right, outta here, party's over and
Ashley:like, sea and Fri turn. Yeah. Um, okay. We gotta move on Aaron, favorite scenes
Aaron:my favorite scenes always have to deal with the nerds just because it's so funny. You know, the jocks pull up after the party, pull them out of the trunk and just of stands him up. Just drive off for no reason.
Ashley:it's just a normal night for them too. They're like, I think they liked us. Yeah. Cool.
Aaron:Yeah, of course. I think they're so funny. they get off the air bus. Is it them that have the jock straps on their head? It might be somebody else.
Ashley:It's not them, but anybody who's not, a lead is a nerd. And the nerds are just so over the top
Garret:I didn't understand that either. Yeah. It was the kids on the air bus that had laser guns and the jock straps on their head. Why would you put your jock on your head? I think they just
Aaron:were, you know, I said, the jobs probably put them on there, And they probably thought it looked, oh, oh, maybe. I don't know. But that air bus was wild. We didn't get into that air bus, but it was
Garret:That was a wild, wild west,
Ashley:it was like Kaos. Like
Garret:Yeah, dude.
Aaron:it looked fun. I mean, it would drive me nuts after a few minutes, but,
Garret:It's insane. If you think about everything in this movie, if it was normal, It wouldn't have been as good, but they took every single character and put it to the extreme. Except for the main characters. I guess Ted was a little bit, But every other character around was funny in one way or another. Like the girl with the neck brace, she's trying to lick herself a fountain drink cuz she can't drink like a normal human being. His girlfriend is absolutely crazy. Every character in this was just rich.
Aaron:The long duck don scenes are hilarious to me. I know it's wrong. I know we're not supposed to laugh at'em, but as somebody that's woken up in somebody's yard after drinking all night
Garret:okay, now that part was hysterical.
Aaron:Grandpa is talking to you. What did you say? No more Yankee. My Winky. no more
Ashley:Yankee. My Winky. But okay, who could you do the character without making him a Chinaman? just have this character that maybe had never been to a party and ghost full steam and it'd still be as funny.
Garret:I think making the character foreign. is fine. just give the guy, great dialogue and make him a bit of a physical comedy, like we were talking about. I still think it could be funny and memorable. You don't need all the other stuff around it..
Ashley:I love when he is the one answering the door when they get to the party he's swinging on the door. I think you could pull it off now if you remade this movie and still gotten across like fish outta water without making it so racist,
Aaron:without the, every time the gong went off or, and again, I was
Garret:like, oh, I would cringe. I would be like, oh.
Aaron:Oh. Yeah.
Garret:Well, coming to that, since you're talking about re casting, let's do it. what would you recast it as?
Ashley:I did the main three, so if you guys did further than that, we can definitely talk about it. But I did Jake, farmer, Ted and Sam. One thing I wanted to ask, and maybe I should ask this before we get actually recording, is like, we're talking about how Jim Carey could have been recast. So it's fun to think who else I could have seen in the role that is our age. And that's actually a little easier for me because me trying to know new actors now, or actors that could play teenagers, even though I was thinking, I watched Euphoria and everyone in euphoria is supposed to be in high school. However, all of the actors are. 18 and up. They're 20 and older. Right. I looked up a 16 year old actress who I really like, and she looked so young to me that I couldn't imagine her in any of this because there's boys and there's sex
Garret:I'm so happy you're bringing
Ashley:this up. It's almost like you have to pick older people now, because actors look so young, right? Yes. So I felt like a dirty old lady. I was looking through hottest actors under 30, and first of all, I don't know half of them. And then the half that I do look like babies. Like
Garret:Yes. A lot of this movie revolves around sex. Yeah. And even though like the characters, you're not seeing them have sex, like the nerd, his main goal is to get laid and all of that around it. And so when we were talking about re casting this, I had a very hard time because when you're young and you're looking at these people, they're teenagers, they're older than you, and you're idolizing them. And so you're like, this person is very handsome. This person, is beautiful, blah, blah, blah. There's a connection there because you're young and you're, reaching for something that you can't be or want. But now that I'm older and, and adult and I'm looking at these babies who are children, and I'm having to put these children in these roles. And I'm like, Nope. Can't do it. It just, it feels wrong. So this was very hard for me and I actually had to do a minor change to mine
Ashley:Aaron, did you? Yeah, I
Aaron:had a tough time. The only actors that I really know are from Stranger Things or it Oh, oh. So I could've casted the whole whole thing from Stranger Things.
Ashley:Oh my God. Swear. Yes. I swear I wrote that.. I said, okay, I could go down a whole rabbit hole, but they've already played eighties characters. And I could see Lucas being farmer Ted. But I had to stranger things aside it Cause I, did the same thing. Everybody could just move over. let's just make this a thing. Right? Where Stranger Things remakes, 16 candles. can we bake it a thing would love to see it.
Garret:Because we're older, we don't necessarily watch children's movies and we don't identify with that. Age group anymore. So when you have a series like Stranger Things and those are the main characters and they're set in a different way, you're identifying with them in, a different way. But we're not watching children's movies anymore, or doing that same identifying. So there's not a lot of choices that we would make because we know the actor
Ashley:Right. Okay. Did you guys have anybody for Sam? I had a bunch for Sam. Since you have a bunch, I'm just just gonna say I really had one There's a girl named McKenna Grace, who you would know. She plays in a ton of stuff. She's been in, Handmaid's Tale, she's a great actress, but she's 16, which is the age of the character. But I couldn't put her in it. the one that I put ended up being from Euphoria, her name is Barbie Ferrera she's real, she's cute. She can be. Sexy, but also fit in every category I just really, I like her. She has this kind of deep, sexy voice, not that Sam had that, but there's just something about her. So she was really the only one that I felt like I would cast.
Aaron:This is my only Stranger Things character, but I did Max from Stranger Things, Sadie Sink. I did too. Did you? Okay. she's redheaded, And I feel like she could, be attractive to some she is
Ashley:very girl next door. I'm telling you, I gonna start my Crowdfund
Aaron:That's the only one that I went with from Stranger Things
Garret:Oh, you didn't pick anymore?
Aaron:Nope.
Ashley:Sam was stuff
Garret:so When I was thinking about Sam, I went through who's a really good actress who looks like it? Who would make it different? I went through all these different things in my brain So I put down Bella Ramsey. She's from Game of Thrones. She's the young queen that ends up dying at the end. Spoiler, sorry. where she's fighting one of those big, things. Oh. And crushes her. She, I do
Ashley:like her.
Garret:she has presence.
Ashley:She's awesome. Where she's 10 years old
Garret:Mm-hmm.
Ashley:but she runs the whole house
Garret:Yes, man. From that scene on I was like, she is an actress to watch. She's going to be fierce as hell. oh, that's a good one. And she, the picture that pulls up mm-hmm. is very cute.
Ashley:good call.
Aaron:she was badass and game it her own thing
Garret:I feel like she's got a lot going. So I picked her, I picked, Millie Bobby Brown because she's also a great actress and she's young. as well as Sadie's, from Stranger Things, then I had two, different ones. So this one would be more if I could wheel back time a little bit. But Zendaya, she's a phenomenal actress. She's gorgeous. And everything she touches comes to life. and this role would be something different. And so I was wondering how she would play it because, I think she's phenomenal. And then the other girl who I thought of is Lana, condor. I feel weird saying it because she did something similar. Into all the boys I love. Okay. Yeah. She's the main character. I watched all three of those movies. I loved her and I thought she would play a very good different role. even though there's parallels to the characters.
Ashley:yeah. I could see that. You don't wanna type caster like Noah, who's actually on my list coming up,
Garret:I will say this. I did think of Noah for Jake because he fits the description, but having her and him in the same movie,
Ashley:Right.
Garret:I think this was difficult in multiple levels because the movie is now going on 40 years. it being that old of a movie and us not knowing younger actors as much, I would say a decade ago and two decades ago, we would've known way more actors to choose from than we do now.
Ashley:if you said pick who you would've recast at that time, I could have a slew of actors because I'm thinking people are age. I'm like, oh, so-and-so would've been great. But picking mm-hmm. people now. if we were making the movie right now, who would I pick? I don't know how to cast high schoolers, Right. Okay, moving on to Jake. I literally had to look up hottest actors and I did find some really good looking actors that I need to watch High I have a few for Jake, but Jake doesn't have that many lines. We don't have to be good actors. he just have to be hot.
Garret:See Jake was hard for me. I couldn't find anybody for Jake that I was really digging because with Jake, he is a beautiful, handsome man. Without him saying anything, there's a presence. And you feel it coming off the screen. And so everybody that I was going through either didn't have the presence or they didn't fit what I thought Jake would be about,
Ashley:I solely went by. Looks I'll tell you mine. So one is Taylor Zakk Perez, he was on a show watching called Minks, mm-hmm. And he was in Kissing Booth the second and third one, look him up. It's Taylor, Z a h k a r. Perez. That was just a very pretty man. I was like, okay. oh, he is good looking. He's very handsome. I had to google him. I don't know if he's gonna fit the role,
Garret:that's the thing is you don't know what their acting style is.
Ashley:But he, has got a few lines, oh yeah, I can see that one. There's one Michael Evans bailing or Belling, B e h l i n G. He's from the show All American. I actually looked up a preview. There's this terrible Cinderella looking movie it's like a cowboy Cinderella story. It was really bad. But even in the preview, he could carry it. I thought he was really Oh, he is handsome. Hello? I know, I'm telling you I did feel like a dirty old lady. The other one was, a little more known if you've seen Cobra Kai, it's Tanner Buchanan, I thought might be able to do it. He looks a little baby-ish compared to the other two. But he's very handsome as far as high school standards go, I think. And he plays kind of the cute karate crew. Uh,
Garret:I thought about him yeah, I feel like he's kind of pretty, but
Ashley:uh, I thought about Austin Butler too, but he's really pretty
Garret:Austin Butler, I don't know any of these people,
Ashley:He played Elvis. know. I'm just jealous of his face. Oh, he's tall, dark, and handsome. I mean, that's Jake.. A, a Ron.
Aaron:I tried to go with somebody that would be older, but trying to play younger. My first instinct was Zach Efron, he would be older now. He would be 28 ish probably.
Ashley:is Zach Efron not our age? I thought he was like, no.
Aaron:Are you kidding? He's way younger than us, I
Ashley:think. I don't know. Have you've seen him lately? I mean, it's just the last thing. Us any mustache.
Garret:you know me. I usually don't go for younger Gabriel is the youngest person I've ever dated he's seven years younger. But, Z Aron, a hundred percent I would be like, okay. Z Aron
Ashley:He's like, I wouldn't kick him out. Then
Aaron:uh, he's 35,
Ashley:so he's 35. That's what I'm saying. I'm 39. Oh, so
Garret:he's around Gabriel's age, so yes,
Ashley:again. Done Zach, call him
Aaron:Okay. that was my first instinct, but then I settled on Tom Holland from Spider-Man.
Ashley:I thought about Tom Holland. I don't think he's done. I don't see it.
Garret:He is charming.
Ashley:He loves animals, so we love him for that.
Garret:Oh,, I didn't know that. But he's very Youthful in appearance. Whereas Jacob He was ageless and timeless if you looked at him now being then he's still handsome. If he was walking down the street, I would still be like, hey.
Ashley:Right, when you watch a's movies and you look at the women, I always feel like they're eighties hot. You wouldn't see them now and be like, Hey girl, you're like, okay. Mm-hmm I get it. They're the eighties hot where Jake is just I don't know, he just doesn't fit the mold.
Garret:Cuz
Ashley:isn't he really short or is it just cuz Zendaya's really tall.
Garret:No, he is, short.
Aaron:mean, some men are just longer than others,
Ashley:Your mom's been telling you stories about
Aaron:me again.
Ashley:yeah, Erin, it's okay. We can tell you're straight
Garret:We're like, that's okay. That's
Ashley:cute and all, but no, there's no wrong answers here.
Aaron:Judgment for you. Except for that one. Except for Tom Paul.
Ashley:All right. what about Didn't for Ted? Oh, I was saying Garrett, you didn't get any for Jake, right? You said?
Garret:No. So for Ted and Jake, I did something different, and I'll do it after you guys are done with yours.
Ashley:Farmer Ted, took me a while because like you said, Aaron, this role was written for him. So how can you cast someone in a role that was written for a personality? True. He Even though he is a nerd. You still want him to win. And he's cute. man, I don't know, I'm gonna list these.
Garret:I feel like you don't, buy your own I don't, I'm not confident in them. These were reaches, so one I put was I don't remember how to say his last name, but Noah's Centennial. Centennial, okay. the one from, all the boys I've loved or whatever, all the boys I loved. I would say he's more Jake
Ashley:category. No, I know, but that's why I think I want him in it. Did you see Black Adam? No, I did not with the Rock. He plays in this role where he is a little clumsy and a little love stricken, and I was like, okay, I see it. And I know he's finally got cast in this new show, the recruits who he's gotten out of the high school thing, cuz he really got typecast in that. But I was like, man, if he was going back to high school, I could see him being able to pull off this adorable, yet nerdy hat. He had a lot of physical comedy in Black Adams. That's what made me pick him and he was my last choice of like, eh,
Garret:I'll have to watch it and give an update.
Ashley:Let me know. Aaron, do you know who that is?
Aaron:Nope.
Ashley:When you see the picture of him, you will, he got stuck in this high school jockey roll
Garret:I don't know that Aaron would, I don't think he's in anything that Aaron would watch be besides Black Adam
Aaron:If he is not on Jackass. I probably haven't seen him
Garret:He's probably like Johnny Knoxville for mine.
Ashley:right. Yes. Devo. the other one I put is I don't think he's as well known, but maybe you'll know him. His name is Griffin Glu. He plays in a show called Lock and Key, which I really like. it's a fantasy show. It's really good. And then there was a movie called Tall Girl and there was one and two and he was the lead in that. He's cute, he can play different roles. I think he could do it. I'm not completely sold, but I'd give him an audition and see if he could pull it off. And then the other one is, the only show I know him from, but I fell in love with him. it's called The Summer. I Turned Pretty his name is David Ano. I think I just loved his character. He ends up getting his heartbroken in the end. But,
Aaron:really liked him. I guess I don't spoilers
Ashley:I don't think you're gonna watch it.
Garret:It's gonna be a picture of me and Aaron eating bonbons watching this too. Like you ruined this
Aaron:I'm not crying. You're
Ashley:I thought he was really cute in that and I wanted to give him a chance. Aaron, you got a farmer, ted.
Aaron:one of The Sprouse twins.=Cole Sprouse or,
Garret:I did think of them.
Ashley:Yeah, I did too. I ran across'em.
Aaron:they can play goofy and Sirius I feel like they have that vibe. Every character that I pictured was. the dancing scene, oh yeah. Who could do that? I settled on and I have a Spider-Man theme. Andrew Garfield from the second Spider-Man. Yeah, I
Ashley:know, I'm,
Aaron:because I just like, get me because he's goofy. Y'all are just shit all over my pigs, but, ok. No, not, if you can see Garrett's any toilet paper, this, I'm just gonna stick to Stranger Things all
Ashley:Stranger things,
Garret:KA
Aaron:the only reason why I probably wouldn't is because Jake is a dark-haired and so he would be the same type. I mean, I
Garret:don't think that matters. He is a good actor
Ashley:and I'm
Aaron:here to make y'all think man.
Garret:So you definitely are making me think, okay. Okay. That's
Ashley:good. You are stretching my,
Garret:Brain
Aaron:My posters we're Garrett wasn't looking. My posters, was it that bad word? The posters start
Ashley:falling The posters like I'm jumping ship cheer. I just had it taped on the door because the posters like,
Aaron:I'm done. Okay, I'm done. I've moved
Ashley:rooms. But the dog is now scared of it.
Garret:so this is what I did because, okay. I literally had so much of our issue trying to find these kids to fit these roles it was just weird. I didn't like the whole picking kids for actors. And we discussed it. So what I did was if this was made in the nineties or into the two thousands, who would play them?
Ashley:So you went that route actors are Ra
Garret:Okay. Yeah. I, and it was much easier for me.
Ashley:We should decide that next time. I agree. Ours would've looked different. Now you made us creeps.
Garret:Thanks, More Ashley than me. But
Ashley:Crazy old
Aaron:lady. Overall, 20 year old. I
Garret:really only did one for each on this. so if this was made in the nineties, I thought for Sam, Liv Tyler. She's got that softness that I think Molly Ringwald has and vulnerable, but she's also a damn good actress. So I thought she could play it and play it very well.
Aaron:is she though?
Garret:No, You don't think so?
Ashley:She does have mixed reviews.
Aaron:She was terrible in Armageddon. was
Ashley:she bad? She was good in that
Aaron:Empire Records.
Garret:okay. I've only seen a few films with her in it and I liked her character, so, Ooh,
Aaron:maybe no matter who you pick, I'm shit all over it just because no,
Garret:I do not think that you will be able to shit\ on the next one, because this is perfect okay. For, for Jake? Luke.
Aaron:Okay. I can't,
Ashley:I can, uh mm-hmm. like the same character Yeah..
Garret:Every, you're right. Every, every time I imagined a character, there were certain scenes that I pictured. And the one with Jake leaning on his car waiting for her
Ashley:And it is very nano two and oh.
Aaron:Leah
Ashley:Harry would be perfect. What's the thing? If we would've put these parameters beforehand? I could have picked a couple Jake Ryans
Garret:I pulled this outta left
Ashley:field So I think The challenge was that we needed to pick actors cuz we're doing it now.
Garret:I know, but I, I couldn't do it. I It would either be like some assignment or no assignments.
Ashley:I think F f Alright, let's see.
Garret:Teach for Ted, I thought David, uh, who was Bud Bundy?
Aaron:Grand Master B.
Garret:He would be perfect. He was awkward, but that lovable brother who was kind of dumb and idiotic, he grew out of the nerdy as he got older, but I, I felt like he could have brought that to the.
Ashley:Do you remember when he was was it YouTube or something where he would do dares and jackass style stuff, out in public,
Aaron:that's weird. Major drug issues,
Ashley:well. So did the jackass dude.
Garret:Shane ain't wrong. Okay, for the two thousands I'd put Ashley Olson. Not Mary Kay. Ashley was always the better actress.
Aaron:for Sam, I don't.
Ashley:I mean, how do you know the difference?
Garret:No, I'm just kidding the Olson twins. both your faces you were like, what is he on
Aaron:Well, we're trying to be supportive, trying to find it. Yeah.
Garret:you were both like Yeah, maybe.
Aaron:Unlike you all where y'all just on my pics. I try to reason and try to
Garret:find You did. You did. I I felt the support. You were my pushup
Ashley:bra. Yeah. We were like, how do we let'em down? Like,.
Aaron:So Hillary Duff I think would be more of a Caroline character than a Samantha character if you ask me.
Garret:I thought she could be demure and play it down, enough what do you think Ash?
Ashley:I don't know what she is in or known for. Isn't she a Disney?
Garret:Yeah, but she's played in movies and I've seen enough of her to know, her acting style and, I liked it.
Ashley:Are they good movies?
Garret:I don't remember the movies offhand, but. I remember liking her
Ashley:So were they good movies? you can't remember the name of them?
Aaron:the movies don't have to be good. Was she good in a bad movie though? You know? Aw,
Ashley:see, he's making us think again, the wisdom. Oh, the beard.
Garret:So I thought for Jake, Drake he is just hot and just imagine
Ashley:all his lines being talk rapping. Like
Garret:I imagine Drake on the car, suave. He's got these good one liners. I could just see it. Now for Ted, I had two that came to mind, I thought s Shyla buff at the time. Cause he was skinny, kind of nerdy. Played it that character. Okay. Or Michael.
Ashley:Oh, Micah. Sarah would be good. Who's that? From Arrested Development. He was George Michael. I gotta lu him. Mo you'll know him
Garret:as soon as you see him. You'll totally know him. Scott Pilgrim versus the world he always plays this goofy ish characters,
Aaron:Oh Yeah, I know that guy.
Ashley:I could see him. Who was the other one you said? Oh, I can't picture Shilah Buffeting anything but crazy now, honestly,
Garret:he's a decent actor and I thought he could play the character well,
Aaron:like trans transformer,
Ashley:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he just took a turn somewhere in there that now I just can't see
Garret:him. A turn. He took a dive off a deep, he
Ashley:was in like, even Steven's, I remember him from that. remember the movie Holes? Oh yeah. Holes. It's like he's a different person I don't even put them together.
Aaron:Maybe he's just woke to the industry. Oh, I don't think he's woke. I think he, that's another podcast though.
Garret:Yeah. I thought those were definitely the picks from, and I only did that because it could, I could not think of anybody or those two characters. It was, and so it was just like, it was really
Ashley:tough. and Again, most of my Jakes are just because they're good looking.
Garret:when we're doing this, use this as a template
Ashley:or we make a rule, maybe if it's high school ones we're like, let's just do ones that we would recast because something about we don't wanna be weird. So that's it. That is, 16 candles. Like you said, John Hughes, first one, he came out swinging. Our mini is gonna have us, categorizing them. I did, just to tell you, for the minis, I did it before I started my rewatch, what my list would've been. And then after I rewatched as it did change for me. Oh, did okay. That'll be coming up in a couple weeks,
Aaron:All right. A season two is here. Thanks for listening. Follow us on all social medias, our nostalgic podcast.com. Give us, Suggestions, requests, anything thanks for listening. Mm-hmm.
Garret:It's gonna be a piece of cake