The Fighter’s Redemption — Brian Minto vs. Trauma and Darkness

What does spiritual warfare look like in the life of a world-class athlete?

In this inspiring episode of The Blind Exorcist, I talk with Brian Minto — a professional heavyweight boxer who rose from childhood chaos, abuse, and emotional trauma to stand in the ring with legends like Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. But Brian's true strength didn’t come from his fists—it came from his unshakable faith in Jesus Christ.

We discuss how his deep-rooted trauma opened the door to spiritual oppression, how his exorcism brought peace and clarity, and why humility was key in confronting demonic activity that followed him for years.

📌 What you’ll discover in this episode:

✅ How childhood trauma can create entry points for demonic oppression
 ✅ Brian’s rise from adversity to boxing fame through Christ
 ✅ The biblical foundation and reality of exorcism
 ✅ Why humility is required for true deliverance
 ✅ Signs of demonic influence—even in successful lives
 ✅ How exorcism helped Brian reclaim peace and spiritual clarity
 ✅ The power of prayer, discipline, and surrender in spiritual battles

Whether you’ve faced physical or spiritual fights, Brian’s story is proof that Jesus brings victory in every arena.

Transcript

Welcome Brian Minto

Justin 0:38

Exposing the darkness, revealing the light.

Brian 0:44

I turned professional at the age of 28. Here I am, this little board kid out of the south side of Butler Flew all over the world. I've been to Russia, I've been to New Zealand, I've been to Germany. I retired with a record of 43 and 11. I gave my life to Jesus Christ at the age of probably 15 at a boxing gym and I think that's where God's favor came upon my life. To everything that's happened, I look back and I say man, this is totally debauchery. He really blessed me. Philippians 4-13 says I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. I think that people need to believe in themselves and be confident in the Lord and seek Him daily, and I believe that he's going to guide and direct you.

Justin 1:45

Welcome, my friends, to Episode 16 of the Blind Exorcist. And you guessed it always, always, always. This bald, blind guy is right behind the microphone. I am Justin D, your host. It is an honor to serve you. It's a sincere pleasure to bring these stories of encouragement and inspiration to each of you. By the way, thank you so much for tuning in. Let me invite you to join the podcast, subscribe to the podcast and share this out to family and friends. And a quick reminder do you know that I write an article each month titled Frontline, and in the Frontline articles I offer you encouragement, motivation, inspiration and all about spiritual warfare. So if that's something you're interested in, go to my website, wwwjustindcom, and if you want, click in the search box on the website, type in Frontline and pull up the search results and right there you'll see the articles. Read them, you're going to get inspired. The other way of getting notified of them is you can subscribe to my newsletter and you can find that on the website as well.

Justin 3:06

Now diving into our guest today, very special guest, brian Minto. He is a retired professional heavyweight boxer. He had an amazing career and his story is extremely inspirational. If you know anybody in your life that needs inspired. I would highly recommend sharing this out to those people and, who knows, maybe they'll actually get a lot out of this and be strengthened in their Christianity or contemplate perhaps becoming a Christian. This is powerful. This is good stuff. So I'm going to let Brian share about his stats and his career. So I'm not going to give a big dissertation about it up front. But he required an exorcism, and that's how I met Brian. So we're going to go ahead and dive in here and begin to speak with Brian. Get ready, buckle up. This is going to be an amazing interview. You're going to find tremendous inspiration behind us. If you're having a bad day, you've tuned in to the correct podcast. So, without any further ado, brian, welcome to the Blind Exorcist.

Brian 4:34

Thanks for having me on the show.

Broken homelife and insecure childhood

Justin 4:36

I'm excited to have you with us today. I'm sure lots of people are tuning in because they're very interested in your professional boxing career and normally when I start with anyone interviewing, I like to go back to our roots. I'd like to go back to our childhood and step through that, because oftentimes demons enter through childhood trauma, through home life, through dysfunctional patterns passed on from generation to generation. First of all, let's talk about your childhood and being raised where you were raised in Butler Pennsylvania, and then eventually we will get into your career, how you got into boxing, we'll talk about some of your training and we'll also talk about some of the matches that you had and flush all this out for the listeners. And at the very end, we'll talk about how, at a certain point in time, you realized that you needed an exorcism. So as a start, brian, let's go ahead and just share your story. Tell us a little bit about your childhood, your early life. What was it like in your home, being raised in Butler Pennsylvania?

Brian 6:00

I was born in 1975 and I was raised in Butler, pa. My dad was in and out of my life throughout my childhood. I remember not seeing him for a while and then my parents got back together, probably when I was five years of age. It was a very stressful home life and uncertainty. I think that was made me a post-traumatic child. Like I was stressed out all the time, not knowing what was going to happen based upon the drinking and the fighting constantly. I remember one point I always run into the neighbor lady who was a great lady. A lot of crazy stuff happened when I was younger. It was a pretty rough upbringing and very stressful time, like going through elementary school, your kindergarten, your first through fifth grade was really stressed out. Not knowing what was going on or what was going to happen because of the drinking was crazy. So everything was unpredictable and I was just stressed out, little kid.

Justin 7:07

I think a lot of people listening Brian can relate to turmoil in the home. You're a young child going through elementary school. Your family was broken up for a while. There was alcoholism in the family. Were you a witness at all to any physical abuse?

Brian 7:25

There was a lot of drinking and then the fights would happen and then I would hear a lot about past wives and past husbands and kids. So my parents both were married a few times before they got together and it would get really physical at times. I've seen some violence happen before. My mom cracked my dad over the head with a trophy Just one of the instances I remember stick out into my head. That was a very violent fight. I even tried to help my mom at one point but yeah, it was chaotic. It was a scary time in my life at times. A lot of trauma. And then you just grow up in that environment and I just my trust issues with people I just shut down completely. In my school I was so behind in a lot of things in learning because I was just that big of a stressed out kid.

Justin 8:28

Yeah, it's very sad. How can you expect to do good in school when you're living in that type of environment? It's hard enough for people that are adults to live in that environment and function, let alone a young child. And to your point, the insecurity, the instability. Going to school, I'm sure you came across kids who had a quote, unquote functional family. You probably could see a lot of the differences between how you were being raised and how maybe they were being raised, and I remember you mentioned to me that your father was from the Ukraine. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Brian 9:09

His grandfather was from the Ukraine and my great-grandmother was also, I believe, from Carpathian Mountains. So that was what I was told and I think we did some ancestral stuff, that we looked back and seen where we originated from, and it was interesting. But yeah, he was Ukrainian Orthodox and we were raised. One good thing he did he raised me in the church, taught me about Jesus as a toddler I knew that, so that was one of the great things that he had done for me as a child. It was Orthodoxy, so it was a little bit like being similar to Catholicism, but it's not and I learned about the Lord and did Sunday schools, started my first Holy Communion, but never finished that because my parents ended up getting divorced.

Brian 10:09

I think around I was eight years of age and at that time it was really chaotic and stressful. I remember we had to move in with my grandmother for a while and so it was a stressful time for us and when my grandmother was an important figure in my life, she'd always try to help out. I know I went there a lot too. She would feed me sometimes. I think my mom at first wasn't working. She was trying to do schooling and that, and then she struggled with her alcoholism, being raised by a single mom. At one point in time I just did what I wanted to do and was very angry and not rebelled against every authority that I had, like parent wise, teacher wise. But one thing I did excel at was sports. That was like an outlet for me to get the frustrations. I loved playing football and I loved to tackle, because that made me feel good when I would hit somebody and got all my anger out.

Justin 11:13

With the background, the anger, the turmoil, you turned towards sports as a way of coping. Was there any point in time in high school where you started that anger may have led you a little bit into drugs, drinking stuff like that.

Accepting Jesus Christ at age 15

Brian 11:28

Yes, I was in actually a treatment facility two times as an adolescent in, I think, 10th grade. I actually went in 12th grade because I struggled with alcohol addiction. I was using marijuana back then and we were getting high on that and drinking alcohol. I found all the kids that were in the same boat as me. We were looking for something to make us feel better and take the pain away.

Brian 12:03

It was a challenge for me as a teenager because I was really confused and just had a lot of hatred in my heart and didn't trust anybody. It was tough, but I got into drugs and alcohol. To be honest, I used LSD and other things and I was looking for something to fulfill my heart and things were just more tormenting me than anything. I gave my life to Jesus Christ at the age of probably 15, at a boxing gym. My coach was a minister and I already believed in Jesus because I was raised in a church, but I recommitted. He was like, hey, do you want to accept the Lord as your savior today? I went into his office and I accepted the Lord. I repented. I think that's where God's favor came upon my life, everything that's happened. I look back and I say, man, this is totally divine.

Starting professional boxing

Justin 13:01

That's awesome that a boxing trainer was a Christian. That was a divine intersection there to prevent you from going down the path of destruction and killing yourself. And first you recognize that you're gifted athletically. Second, you realize that you're dabbling in and out of things that are not good, like the drugs, drinking and so forth, trying to find relief from your pain. So you become a Christian and at that point in time, I'm imagining, something started to change. It's always a process. When was it that you decided or perhaps I would say maybe God led you to professional boxing?

Brian 13:52

I started boxing in the amateurs at the age of, I want to say I was 22 to 23. And then, throughout that period of time, I turned professional at the age of 28. And that was my first fight. I was married with two kids. We were living in the trailer, so at that point I had some urgency. I was like I can't raise these children here like this. I got to do something. So it all worked out. I got up I was 18 and three as an amateur and I was doing pretty well at a regional final in the Golden Gloves. And then a few months later someone asked me hey, do you want to fight professionally? And I said, sure, why not? It was like a four round fight was $400. And I was like, man, that's extra Christmas money. I'm going to do it, not thinking anything about how far I was going to go with it or how much the Lord was going to bless me with it. But I just went with it and I jumped out of job from I was working as a lineman, I went into the labor union and was carrying brick and block and we would get laid off in the wintertime. So I was able to train more than and then in a year and a half I ended up getting hooked up with a matchmaker who he moved me really fast. I had 18 fights in a year and five months.

Working with boxing trainers

Brian 15:24

I believe it was totally of God what happened in my life. I was blessed and everything was in a line the way it worked out. So if I look back on my career I could say man, he really blessed me because of my first TV fight I think I was 18 and 0 on ESPN. So everything came surreal to me. I was like wow, because there's a point in time throughout my professional fights to my 10th fight. I was sometimes dialing myself Like man, maybe I should just go back to work. But I ended up getting a manager and things worked out to where I could just train for boxing and I really dedicated my whole life to it because I just felt like this was my only chance.

Justin 16:15

And during your training, who was the actual person that trained you?

Brian 16:20

I started out with a local boxing gym and the one trainer was named was Steve Six, who was the pastor that got me to commit my life to Christ, and another guy by the name of Don Spanetti. So there was a few guys here, but I ended up training with Tommy and Kello when I first started my professional fights. I got with him when I was like three and I believe it was, and he was out of ambridge, and then I just started learning. I learned through sparring with an Olympian who was he might have been 10 or 12 and I was at the time, but he was a pro and his name was Calvin Brock. So I started sparring with him and I was learning a lot by sparring with guys like that, who had experience, and I had experience, but I wasn't on their level. But it made me more determined to push myself and learn and I did everything that I possibly could to get to that place where I had to go, and it wasn't easy.

Brian 17:24

I remember driving down. So it took me about an hour to get down to the gym every day and an hour to get back home. So that was after an eight hour shift of doing masonry work, which was hard. So I was carrying mud and block every day at first and then I ended up getting hooked up with a manager and boxing it is a very hard sport at times because of the financial side of it can be really rough for like managers and all that and money, because money is the root of all evil for people like everybody wants money out of something, and so it took turns for worse and then things straightened out. But it was a tough time here and there we made it through it.

Brian 18:10

I was totally blessed just to get to see the world. Here I am, this little poor kid out of the South Side of Butler flew all over the world. I've been to Russia, I've been to New Zealand, I've been to Germany. I've been in a lot of places. So I'm truly blessed to look back and say what boxing has done for me and what the Lord has done for me, because without him I wouldn't be here today.

Boxing record, knocking out Vincent Maddalone, and meeting famous people

Justin 18:34

This is amazing to come from such a traumatic broken home living in poverty, and I remember we spoke briefly one time about how a lot of the people you hung out with are still sitting at the same bars. They're still stuck in the poverty and praise God through Jesus Christ. You broke that cycle. You broke that cycle of dysfunction. God blessed you in this sport. He gifted you with your athletic abilities. Like you said, you were able to travel all around the world Russia, I remember you said you've been to Poland. Can you tell the audience maybe some of the people you bumped elbows with and also what your stats were when you retired?

Brian 19:46

I retired with a record of 43 and 11. I never won a major title but I won some junior titles. I did really well for the weight class. I was fighting and I was fighting as a heavyweight. I was really. If I really am honest, I've probably been a world-class light heavyweight because these guys I'm like five, 10 and a half, maybe two, 15, and these guys were huge. I was like six, four, two, 70, something like that. There were some big guys that I fought and I beat a few of them, but at the world-class level it was really hard for me. I got to meet a lot of people throughout boxing. I've been in so many places. I remember when I fought in Tampa. I fought in HBO. I fought Vinny Madeline, which we had two fights together.

Brian 20:39

Our first fight was the one where I know God helped me out of that stool in that last round because I was dead. I was thinking about quitting. In the eighth and ninth round I got knocked down in the first. I got this energy in the tenth round. Everybody said, man, you got your energy back. But I had a fan who wrote me a card and a letter At that moment. He said he prayed for me in the eighth and ninth round, which I was dead. I thought I was going to quit. I was sitting there in the stool, things were going through my head and I was like something told me don't do it. So I didn't quit and I go out there in the tenth round and I knock him out. But in that time everything slowed down. When I threw that hook I seen everything just slow and slow motion. As soon as I hit him he went down and everybody the crowd erupted. When I read that card that this guy sent me from Butler, I was like, wow, so that was how God revealed himself to me. I didn't do that. That wasn't me who did that. It was an amazing win. It basically started my career to where I ended up getting bigger fights. I was truly blessed.

Germany, hospital ICU, and losing to Marco Huck

Brian 21:57

I threw out that period of time. I got to meet a lot of people through it. I've met big names. Actually, that fight that I got to meet was Michael Jordan. He put a bet on me so I got to meet him in the locker room. He actually come up and shook my hand. I signed a picture for him. So I thought that was really cool to meet somebody that as a child I loved to watch him play basketball. He was an amazing guy and to get to meet him that was the icing on the cake for me.

Brian 22:30

I did meet a lot of people throughout my boxing career. It was an interesting time and period in a lot of people that I've met were close to the Lord and a lot of fighters are because of the uncertainty the time when you're walking down the aisle, you're going into the ring, you don't know what's going to happen. You're going to war and combat and I always I prayed before every fight, so a lot of people shared their faith through boxing, which was great. There's a lot of Christians that are fighters and just to see all these people that I've been around, it's been amazing. Been around Mike Tyson I've seen him a few times and Roy Jones Jr I know him personally. It's just been quite an amazing journey for me and I was truly blessed.

Justin 23:23

There was a certain match you were in in Germany and you wound up in the hospital. Can you tell us a little bit about that match?

Brian 23:33

Yeah, I was fighting Marco Hawk for the Cruiserweight World title and it didn't work out for me. I got there two days before the fight, actually flying out of LA. I trained at the wildcard gym at that for that fight. I ended up getting there. I'm not making excuses, but it was pretty bad and I knew when I was getting my hands wrapped for that fight. It was a World WBO title fight and I just knew I wasn't in the right frame of mind for me to get in the ring and be successful.

Brian 24:09

I was so jet lagged, my flight got delayed out of Philadelphia overnight and it just didn't work out. World champion, he was tough, he hit me with some good shots and then it did 11th round. I believe it was the 11th round. My corner was like hey, you guys, you're not going to win the fight, I'm just going to stop it right now. And I was getting banged up and ended up after the fight.

Physical injuries from boxing

Brian 24:35

I had a doctor with my personal doctor and he was my fight doctor. He actually had them look me over and then I ended up going to the hospital. I'm not even sure what the name of it was, but they said that I had a concussion and they kept me overnight there. It was a pretty scary place because they put me in the intensive care unit, which I don't believe I needed to be there, but it was pretty scary. But I definitely prayed a lot that night and things didn't work out. But that's just the sport and we all fall short times and that was one of them. Could I beat him? Maybe I'm not going to say no If I was at my best and I was really rested and not jet lagged and everything wasn't going my way at that time because of getting there two days before a fight, trying to six hour time difference, trying to just catch up on the time that I missed, and it was just wasn't working out for me.

Justin 25:39

So I would imagine during your career you have probably suffered quite a few physical traumas to your body outside of a concussion. What else have you experienced during your career related to like physical injury?

Brian 25:55

Right now I feel a lot of the aches and pains. I could say that I retired at the age of 40. I started late 28 and then I went to the age of 40. There's other people that have gone to age 50, like Bernard Hopkins very talented, special guy there. But yeah, I got some aches and pains and a lot of stitches in the eyes and a lot of concussions that I know of.

Germany, Broken thumb, and beating Axel Schulz

Brian 26:23

But my last MRI scan, the doctor at the Cleveland Clinic was going over it with me right after it and he was like man. He said you look like you weren't even a fighter. He's your brain looks good. So I truly just think I was blessed there, because a lot of times people get out and they can't even speak really well and they're they call it punchy or punch-drung, and I don't suffer from anything like that. I have just aches and pains now with my neck. My neck is really the thing that bothers me, because I played football basically up to I was in my 20s in college and then I boxed till I was 40. So I definitely can feel a lot of pain right now and the only thing I could really do is just keep moving, exercising and keeping everything stable.

Justin 27:18

I remember you mentioned to me at one point you had broke your thumb. Another time you had some ribs broken, so you really had been through it.

Brian 27:29

Let me back up. I missed on touching about breaking my thumb, and this was a fight that I got to glorify the Lord on, because without him I would have never won this fight. Because it was 18 days out before I fought Axel Schultz. And this is this. Come on my spirits, I had to do this and talk about the fight. So I broke my thumb and it was 18 days prior to the fight and all of these mental games at that point because it was the biggest payday I was going to have in my entire career, so I couldn't pass it off and my thumb was a Bennett's fracture. I just looked at my wife and I said I got to do something. So I was thinking about just how I was going to take a knee or get hit with a body shot. But that forget that, because the Lord had other plans for me. I couldn't put a glove on my right hand till two days before the fight and when I was warming up right there before we went out in front of 15,000 people, I was punching it full steam. So that healing that was provided there it was amazing.

Brian 28:41

That whole night before the fight I didn't sleep. I was in my Bible, I was reading scripture, reading through John. I just was. I was so much anxiety. But I believe that the Holy Spirit gave me peace throughout that whole day. I didn't sleep all night. So the whole day I was just. I had this peace over me and I was amped up.

Realization of having demons and requiring an exorcism

Brian 29:03

But I remember walking down through that crowd that night, there was 15,000 people whistling at me that's what they do and they were Germany to heck with you. And I was fighting their, their icon over their axle Schultz. At the time he made a comeback, but from going from one mindset to the other, but through the blessing that the Lord gave me and getting in that ring that night, I ended up knocking them out in the seventh round. It was totally amazing that I was blessed to go through this point in my life. It really showed me that my faith got me through that fight and, through that point, me not believing it first and, when it happened, to sit there and question it. So at that point I was given it to the Lord. I said, lord, this is your will, whatever you want me to do. And it was amazing that he blessed me to win by knockout. And that, basically, was another fight in my life that he revealed himself to me through boxing.

Justin 30:27

At a certain point in time you're retired and you're with your wife, your children and you came to the realization as a Christian, as a born again Christian, that you had demons and you needed an exorcism. This is one of the main reasons that I started the Blind Exorcist podcast is so that people can understand that normal, functional people in life can have demons. And I think it's a terrible mistake in Western culture, in America and all the Western cultured countries, to think that number one people can't have demons. I think that's an absolute mistake and number two Christians can never have demons. That's a mistake because every single client that I work with is a born again Christian and they come because they have demons. I just wanted to mention this again to the audience that the idea, Like in Brian's case, with the background he had, the traumas, the alcoholism, the physical abuse between the parents, the insecurity, a neighborhood lady helping raise him here and there, the grandmother, the anger in and out of drugs and all of this stuff demons enter through. And then the assumption, or I dare say the ignorance, that when somebody becomes born again in a Christian that somehow all of that just goes away, All of it goes away and you live happily ever after, and that I wish it was that easy. But demons enter through trauma, they enter through neglect, they enter through anger and rage. They enter through having sex with multiple partners. They enter many ways into us and oftentimes people are born with demons.

Justin 32:33

The Bible talks about how, when people practice witchcraft, sorcery, divination, all these different practices, these different sins, murder, all these things that God has, that curse go on to the third and fourth generation, and so it just keeps repeating and repeating and, and so children can be born under curses from their ancestors and born with demons, and those demons are who nudge people toward whatever those demons are bent toward. So if you're born with a spirit of witchcraft, you're going to be drawn to the occult, you're going to be drawn toward anything to do with that area of supernatural existence psychics, tarot card reading, all of these sorts of things, right. Or if someone's born with murder and rage from their ancestry and they grow up in a violent home, they become rage-filled. The demons are there and they're fighting and you can think of people in your life or even through your high school years that they were possessed in their mind. The rage and anger was tangible because it was demonic. They were always in fights, they were always in trouble with the police because they were born with them.

Justin 33:52

Curses, and then, to make things more challenging for people, was this the family dynamics. Yeah, I just wanted to recap that for people so that they can understand that many of the things that you are dealing with in your life as an adult could be from demons. They absolutely could be. And in fact, Brian, at a certain point in time you realized that you had demons. You reached out for help for an exorcism with Tom and Margaret Painter, who I've interviewed on here before. You can listen to their story. They are exorcists, certified and trained, as am I, Tom and Margaret. You reached out to them. Tom got a hold of me, said can you come sit in on this one? I said absolutely and you proceeded through for an exorcism. Can you explain to the listeners, as a born-again Christian, what was it that caused you to believe that you had demons and that you needed to go through an exorcism to get rid of these things?

Brian 35:00

I just started hanging around Tom and Margaret I got to meet them through a friend, don Orlowski, and I would listen to some of the stuff and the work that he was doing and I questioned it at first and I'm like I don't know if I really believe that, and I've had many people tell me that if you're filled with the Holy Spirit, how could you have demons in you, which makes sense, right? And so I believe it was on a Tuesday night, so I basically I just pray about it and ask the Lord what he wants me to do. And I believe that he led me to this because I went to a church service some type of service throughout the week or I'm not sure what, the exact reason why they were all getting together and the vice president started giving his sermon and then he started to talk about deliverances and that smacked me right in the forehead. It was like this is real.

Brian 36:03

I've seen in the Bible where Jesus cast many demons out of people and I just believe that I was led to the place where I had to be delivered from certain things that seemed like that they were still there. But I just wanted to reassure myself that that was the right thing to do, because I believe that I was being led by the Lord to do this and I feel that it lifted a weight off my shoulders and I know that we talked about it. It wasn't like I was sizzling on the ground like bacon and there was stuff coming out of me, but it was definitely. It was calm and I felt like I was getting stuff off my chest that I needed to do and especially like the soul ties that you were talking about. So everything, just totally it was like a weight lifted off my shoulders. We were announced a lot of things and it just was like a weight lifted off my shoulders.

Brian 37:02

So a lot of people don't believe in it and a lot of people, I think, just don't really know. It's in scripture and there's a lot of people that think that, oh, that's crazy, what are you talking about? It doesn't happen like that, but I see it a lot and it talks about Jesus cast and demons out of people and I truly believe that we can be entered. It doesn't mean that you're going to be like I want to say, like you see, some severe cases, but I don't think I was at that point, but I just thought it was like a weight lifted off my shoulders.

Justin 37:37

I think that's some really valid points that you're bringing out. One thing that stuck out to me is that your particular exorcism was very calm, and really the majority of people that I work with they are calm. It is a gentle process. There are some where there's powerful demonic manifestations and yours wasn't, and that's okay. It still worked. You felt a weight off of you and feeling better. But I remember one of the reasons and we don't have to get into the specifics of this, but I remember one of the things that really caused you to reach out was you did have some paranormal phenomena happen to you, and so these sorts of things happen and I mentioned this often. People just tend to ignore them or they just say that strange and then just move on, and instead of that, they should pay attention to it, because it's like the demons are showing their hand. If you have something paranormal happen in your life, you should be like look, ma'am, this is demonic and if I'm experiencing this, I must have demons. So that's just some encouragement to people.

Justin 39:04

When you see something happen around, you that is not based in what we call reality. Right, it's paranormal phenomena. I work with people that have bite and scratch marks on their bodies and they don't even have pets. Or things are moved in the home and they did not move them. Or they walk into the bedroom and doors, drawers, are opened, on their dresser were closed through, everywhere, thrown everywhere and they weren't even in there and no one was in the home. So it's things like this. Or lights going off and for no rhyme or reason, the fuse box is fine.

Justin 39:46

When you have demons come around you and at a certain point in time you have to ask yourself am I willing to deal with this, to get freed up, so I can be unrestricted? Instead of walking around with a thousand pounds on your back, you can go through an exorcism it is a general process for the most part and get freed up. It's not a big deal. It just requires humility, and I think that's the two main reasons people are reluctant to do this. The first is fear. They're afraid of it, but they're actually afraid to admit it. So instead of saying I'm terrified about this, that I could have demons, I'm just straight up gonna deny it and say there's no way Christians can have demons and that's that Because the root of that for many people not all, but the root of that for many people is fear.

Justin 40:33

They're afraid of the devil, they're afraid of Satan, they're afraid of demons because they've never been taught about it. So that's the first reason in my experience that a lot of people are not open to exorcism. And the second reason is pride. They don't wanna humble themselves and admit that they have a problem, that they have demons, and part of working with people is going into their traumas, going into their shortcomings. So there are people who are very prideful. They don't want to admit, for example, that they've had affairs. They don't wanna humble themselves and confess that sin and work through that and get rid of the demons behind it, or that they have a secret addiction of some sort. They don't want. They wanna be the perfect Christian and not humble themselves and admit, hey, I got a problem. So I think the second element of people not being open to exorcism is pride, because you have to humble yourself, go to work with somebody and step through the things that are hidden and secret. Those have to be exposed so that you actually can be freed up. Brian, any thoughts on that?

Brian 41:43

I believe it takes a lot of humility to do that, and I agree with it. Everybody might get the same mindset that I had at first is nah, I don't know about that, that seems crazy, but I just felt that I was being led there, and that's where I ended up, and I think it's a big weight lifted off my shoulders. And one thing that I noticed, though, when I read scripture daily, that I feel like I'm in a better place. I truly think it's a very necessary thing for people to admit. Which is the hardest thing is, admit their sin and be delivered from everything that's weighing you down. Don't be deceived by the enemy, because he's gonna try to fill your heads with lies and he wants you to not be in that place of deliverance. He don't want you to renounce him, he just wants to keep you in deception. So I believe that I think it's a it was a great thing for me to do and to realize that there's a battle between evil every day.

Brian offers encouragement to listeners

Justin 42:54

And the thing to mention also about exorcism is that it is healing. Like Brian saying he feels better, I know for me personally and the clients that I work with that after they've been through a handful of sessions getting rid of these demons, that they actually begin to feel better emotionally and physically. Sleep deprivation can be a sign of demonic torment. How many clients I work with, and myself included, I experienced this where I'll wake up at 3 am for no reason and can't go back to sleep. That's a type of demonic torment At times. I'm not saying every time you wake up at 3 am and can't go to sleep that it's demons, but if it is a reoccurring pattern, you've tried everything you can medically, psychologically, to try to help that and nothing helps. There's a strong probability that that is demonic as well. So imagine that having a better night's sleep, feeling better emotionally, physically because demons make you feel utterly exhausted and they're just filthy, they're compulsive, they entice, they get people into addictions and make them feel exhausted. The shame, the guilt, the depression all this stuff comes from these demons just trying to kill you. That's really what it boils down to. So all of this was just and thank you, brian, for sharing your experience with everyone. Catch this, guys. We're talking about a professional heavyweight fighter who's a born-again Christian. Initially he was like I don't know about this. And then, after spending time with the Lord, hearing it at his church, he was like, yeah, I think I need to do this. Plus, he had some paranormal phenomena surface in his life and it was like, okay, we need to do this. All of this just shared with you guys as food for thought.

Justin 44:45

And, brian, at the end of every episode, I always ask my guest to share words of encouragement with the listening audience. Your background there are a lot of people, brian, that have came from abusive homes, alcoholic homes, that are stuck in poverty or are trying to get out, or that are under the influence of demons. They have demons and maybe they're afraid to admit it or maybe they don't want to humble themselves. Can you share some words of encouragement if you were sitting across from people who had some of the similar background? Maybe they were beat as a child. Maybe they were shipped from house to house. Maybe they were in and out of foster care. Maybe they come from a very rough background. Maybe they are Christians, but they just suffer tremendously because of their pain in the demons, as a professional heavyweight boxer, as a born-again Christian, as someone who's been through an exorcism, can you please take a couple minutes and, just from your heart, share some encouragement with these people?

Brian 45:59

Philippians 4.13 says I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. That's a very important verse and I believe that we all gotta believe that there is a higher power out there that's gonna get us, which is Jesus Christ, get us to the point or the place that we wanna be, and it's by faith and not quitting. I think quitting is. Everybody just gives up on things and they believe the lie from the deceiver. That's what he wants you to believe at. You're not good enough, you can't make it, you're not gonna do it. So I think that people need to believe in themselves and be confident in the Lord and seek Him daily, and I believe that he's gonna guide and direct you and give you the knowledge and wisdom that you need to push through these strong, and He'll lead you to the place that you need to be. And that's where I truly believe he's led me to do the things that I've done spiritually and to get rid of a certain baggage that you have in your life.

Brian 47:07

And I think everybody needs to really examine that and humble themselves and say, look, I have these things going on in my life and I'm not really sure what to do about it. And that's some of the things that had happened to me. So you gotta have faith, you gotta seek Jesus daily and you gotta have a belief that you're gonna get through this time if you're struggling or whatever your addiction is. And another thing too is the Holy Spirit can help you through anything.

Brian 47:44

And I know that, not putting a lot of emphasis on the power of these demons, but the power of the Holy Spirit is way more powerful than any demon and there's nothing else that we need to do is but to believe, confess and humble ourselves and do the right thing to get us to the place that we need to go to. And it's very, it's humbling and it's definitely weightlifting off of you. The deceiver Wants us to be tormented, wants us to believe we can't make it. We can't do things that we wanna do and achieve things we wanna achieve. I'm living proof of it, to where I began and where I ended. I think it's a totally divine blessing in my life that I had.

Justin 48:35

You may be demon possessed and this is the first time you're coming to the realization of it. If that's you, I'd like to invite you right now to go to my website, justindeedcom, and book a session with me. Until next time, god bless.