Two Years After Deliverance — From Surviving to Thriving

Can Freedom from Demonic Oppression Really Last?

In this rare follow-up episode of The Blind Exorcist, I reconnect with John, whose powerful deliverance was featured in Episode 11. It’s been two years since that breakthrough—and today, John shares what life looks like after sustained freedom in Christ.

Back then, John was isolated in his mother’s basement during COVID, battling depression, suicide, isolation, poor hygiene, financial instability, and toxic codependency. Today, he’s financially independent, emotionally strong, physically healthier, and confidently walking in his identity as a child of God.

📌 What you’ll learn in this episode:

✅ Why deliverance is just the beginning of true transformation
 ✅ The daily habits that help sustain freedom from demonic oppression
 ✅ How breaking family soul ties can unlock emotional healing
 ✅ Why church community plays a key role in long-term freedom
 ✅ How John rebuilt his confidence and spiritual authority
 ✅ What it really takes to keep demons from coming back

John’s journey is living proof that freedom through Jesus Christ is possible—and sustainable. If you're feeling stuck or wondering if true deliverance can last, this episode will give you both hope and a clear path forward.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:38

Welcome back, my friend. Thank you so much for tuning in, as always. I'm thrilled that you've decided to take the time to check out this episode. And this is the Blind Exorcist. I am Justin D, your host, and this is episode 31. This episode is really cool.

Speaker 1 1:01

I've brought back John from episode 11. Now, if you've not listened tokept, unbathed, undisciplined this is all in episode 11. Two years later, I bring them back to share what true success looks like post-deliverance. This is amazing. We're going to step into John's life here, two years past him going through an exorcism, and see just how does this unfold in practical ways in someone's life. You guys have been with me for a while. You've heard these testimonies. This is the first time I've ever brought somebody back after they've walked for two years in freedom. This is amazing. This is the benefits that you, my friend, can receive after going through deliverance. This is going to be amazing. I'm so excited for this.

Speaker 1 2:19

Now I live in Ohio, so we are in that weird April, may, spring. It's like this dude, in the morning you're in a hoodie with the furnace on. In the afternoon you are in shorts and a t-shirt and the air conditioner on. Then in the evening you're back to heat and back in the hoodie and sweatpants. So if you live in Michigan or Pennsylvania or Ohio, you all know exactly what I'm talking about.

John's Pre-Deliverance Condition

Speaker 1 2:47

So, anyhow, because of these drastic temperature changes, people get sick and get chest colds, and I got a chest cold. So in this episode I sound like I've smoked cigarettes for 45 years of my life and I've lived on whiskey. Okay, but I just wanted to let you know that's why I sound different. It's all intelligible. It all sounds great. You're going to get a lot of value out of it, but I just wanted to let you know old Justin D had a cold during this episode. If you find this episode inspiring, helpful, valuable in any way, I'd encourage you to tap on support the show in the show notes. Any amount helps. Thank you, I'm so excited to dive into this. Let's just jump in. Let's go, john. Welcome back to the Blind Exorcist.

Speaker 2 3:48

Thank you for having me back. It's been two years and I'm looking forward to our interview.

Speaker 1 3:54

Me too, man, and what I'm very excited about is to really show what Jesus Christ has done for your life and for your commitment to Christ. You've done what is required to maintain your freedom, and I think that's so important, because a lot of times people come to me or other exorcists and they sit down across from me as an example and they're basically saying, without saying, fix me. In other words, I'm not going to do anything, but you remove the demons and then they leave and they continue in the same lifestyle. They keep the same toxic relationships, they don't stay in their Bible daily, they don't attend church regularly, but yet they want their pain to go away. And it doesn't work that way. And this is why I'm excited, because this is raw and real.

Breaking Toxic Relationships

Speaker 1 4:51

You guys know, who have been listening for a while, that on this podcast, man, this is raw and real, this is real life. This is the streets man. So when we talk on here, we're not just making up nice positive, psychological, self-help babble, we're bringing it to you real demons, real pain, real trauma and real victory. And this is what John is bringing to us today is absolutely astounding victory through Jesus Christ and putting in what he needed to put in. So we're going to go ahead and dive in here, john, and let me just start by asking you this question what comes to mind when you think back on your deliverance?

Speaker 2 5:41

Yeah, that's a great question. I haven't really been thinking about my deliverance because it's been about two years and I think, looking back, it's just really powerful to think about. I'm like, wow, it's been such a transformation because it was God's grace, I think. When I was where I was in a toxic relationship with my parents and I was really I had lack of energy and lack of momentum. I was very stuck and I didn't know how to get out of it. So I got to the point where the pain was great enough to force me to change whatever direction, if that makes sense. So I don't know where I was.

Speaker 2 6:20

I think I was really depressed and I was wanting to move forward in life, but I felt really dark. I don't know how to explain it. I was basically in my mom's basement, to put it that way, and it was during COVID, and it was hard to find a job and I was struggling financially, I was struggling making friends and I was struggling with hygiene something basic as hygiene and feeding myself. Certain times I was pretty overweight too, so that as well. So I was just like a really depressed place, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 7:02

So I was just like a really depressed place, if that makes sense. Yeah, and I think that's an interesting point that you bring out COVID, because I think this is when we've seen a lot of deliverance ministries come out, because people were trapped with their demons, right. So when you're active in life and you can get out and just bring your demons with you, because when you're alone and I know many of you can relate to this, right when you are alone and the lights are out and it's time for bed, how many of you just lay there every night with racing thoughts of absolute torment and cannot sleep unless you, you know, take melatonin or sleep aids or alcohol. Many people fall into that. And COVID, you couldn't get away. And this is one thing that you know brought John to me is because he started really identifying John to me is because he started really identifying dude, I got demons, I got to get rid of these things. So he did. So you came, john, we went through the exorcism process. When did you truly realize that you were free?

Speaker 2 8:18

Yeah, I would say we had a couple of sessions two or three maybe, trying to recall but I was more free. I would say I felt this is what I felt, probably like 80% free at the time, but I still had some demons and I think it was. I kept the door open with a toxic relationship with my mom my mom Now I love my mom. We just had this codependency and it's cultural thing where it's like a helicopter mom type of thing and I was trying to I don't know, I rely on her like to take care of me with the household stuff and she relied me on other stuff. So we had this kind of toxic relationship that I didn't like fully see at the time.

Speaker 2 9:01

So I I wasn't completely free and I maybe opened some more demons to that. So I met some friends locally who did deliverance and they continued to do deliverance on me locally in person and I, and then afterwards I was still in pain internally to the point where I'm like I need to move out. And so when I moved out that's when I say I was like I felt like 95% free, 100% free to just grow up. I would have this preference to say that I'm like 29. So this happened when I was about 27. So yeah, happened when I was about 27.

Speaker 1 9:41

So, yeah, I think you bring out a great point here, which was what I mentioned in the beginning, is getting rid of toxic relationships, and oftentimes those are family members, and getting rid of doesn't mean, you know, completely cutting them off, but distancing yourself so that you can be free. Demons love dysfunction in family. They love codependency, they transfer between codependency. It's disgusting, it's appalling to me. You know, I had to study this as a social work major when I was in university family systems and that's where I really started to understand how toxic families can be. Open systems, closed systems, you know, open systems where families are open to people coming in and visiting and new friends, right, the analogy back in social work back in the day when I took it, was it's like an open system is a pond that has a stream coming into it so it keeps bringing in freshness, so that staticness and the green gook won't grow on the pond. And then a closed family system is people who are closed. They have no stream coming into that pond, so the fish are dead, floating the green gunks on top of the pond and everything's closed. So you got dysfunction. And from an exorcist perspective, what does that mean? Molestation, rape, codependency, codependency, like what John was explaining rejection, control, manipulation, alcoholism, drugs. If you don't have anybody coming into that house, to that family, things are going to get demonic real quick. And again, people are born with generational curses.

Speaker 1 11:39

So another thing I'd like to mention is I think that it's really a positive thing for John to recognize that the toxic relationship was keeping him in bondage and to continue deliverance. I think that's key. I've always mentioned to everybody this is not a one and done. Deliverance, in my personal opinion, is ongoing until you get to the point where you're like I'm cool, whatever's remaining I can live with Now. So to me personally, I think deliverance is ongoing. It's ongoing and it depends on how much do you want to get rid of. Do you just want to get rid of a little bit and then continue on through life? Do you want to go middle of the road or do you want to go deep? I went deep 14 months with Dr Larson and I still go back a couple times a year. Anything comes up in me. I'm not letting them idiots stay. I'm going to get the legal right broke and they're going to get kicked out.

Life Transformation After Deliverance

Speaker 1 12:44

It infuriates me because I don't want them, and what's strange to me is a lot of people want their demons. They love the seduction. They love because they're insecure inside, so they love the seduction. They want to seduce women, they want to seduce men, or they love the money. They love mammon, so they don't want to get it go. They love the anger and hatred, you know, so they don't want to let that go because they feel justified. I get all of that, but at the end of the day, jesus Christ died on that cross for our victory and we owe it to Him to get rid of these things. We owe it to him to humble ourselves. Come to an exorcist, a deliverance minister, and say you know what? He died for my freedom. I owe it to him and I'm getting rid of these things. Hallelujah, I tell you guys. I preach myself happy here all the time. All right, all right, hold on. Okay, I put my pulpit away. John, let me come back to you. How does your life compare now to how it did before deliverance?

Speaker 2 14:13

Wow, I would say the biggest change is definitely my emotional and mental health is a lot better, I would say, and I'm physically healthier as well as a result of that.

Speaker 2 14:26

So I've been taking care of myself and my environment. My finances got a lot better, whereas before you know, I I depended on my mom, like with, with most things, even just emotional support and and everything. Now I can stand on my like own two feet, I'm more confident in in the lord, with just daily things, and I feel like I'm more stable as a person, as an individual, and I don't need validation from externally, whether it's from my family member or people. Now it's still, like you said, it's an ongoing thing maintenance and discipline. I think discipline is key after deliverance to keep the demons out, and so I'm more disciplined as well. So there's so many, if you want to call it, benefits, but you got to keep the ball moving forward, because it's like the lake you got to have running water through it. You have to be moving or it's going to eventually become stagnant and the lake will start attracting flies and demons.

Speaker 1 15:34

All good points, john, it's discipline and doing the grit and doing what you need to stay free. What has helped keep you free over the past two years?

Speaker 2 15:48

Yeah, there's a lot of tools for freedom. The main tool, I would say, is my having devotions. So I do daily Bible reading from a 365-day Bible reading plan and book form. So I read that in the morning and I do some free Bible reading at night too, and doing prayer in between too. So I think devotional is key because everything is a spiritual battle and the Holy Spirit can sense things better than you do, like in terms of what's around you, like what's in the atmosphere, and he can, like protect you and give you discernment Okay, don't go, don't have passed.

Speaker 2 16:35

I feel more conviction and I think that conviction really prevents me from going places. I shouldn't be going and doing things I shouldn't be doing. So that's one, and also, I would say, being busy. I would say number two would be being really busy and also not be too busy to the point where you forget about your relationship with God and people, but just being busy. So you're not doing, you don't have time to do what you're not supposed to be doing. So, yeah, there's and there's many other, like I call it tools to keep your freedom, but those are the two main that really helped me personally.

Speaker 1 17:16

I think that's great, because you struggle with isolation and a lot of people that I work with do they isolate when they're in emotional pain. And what you're explaining is a great practical tip on how to fight against isolation. And I tell clients this all the time Go outside, get out of your bedroom, get out of your house, go walk around, go somewhere and get out. This is how you fight isolation. So if you're isolated, you want to know how do I? Yeah, I get it. You're laying in bed. You're unkept. You feel like you're laying in molasses. You have no energy. The depression is so bad you just want to fall on your hands and knees and crawl toward the door to try to. It takes every bit of energy to just get out in the. That's because you got demons.

Speaker 1 18:11

Man John's a testimony here as to how he's able to stay out of isolation because he went through deliverance. I don't let my demons stay around. They're not going to have a party on my expense. This isn't like a free house where you can just stay and hang out and smoke marijuana and drink and have sex with girls and all that. No, this isn't party time. This isn't a house. This isn't a house where you're going to stay here and keep me in bed, where I can't get out, and be isolated in utter pain, where your chest is so full of anxiety and the pain, the pain, dude. How many times have I talked with people, myself included? Remember, I went through deliverance 14 months. I know what I'm talking about. John knows what he's talking about. You got to be willing to give up your demons. Stop letting them have a party in your head. That's God's property. You're a Christian. That's God's property there. That's not Satan's property. He has a legal right but we can break that and get rid of him.

Tools for Maintaining Freedom

Speaker 1 19:21

This is the year you feel me. This is the year and also, just to let you know and I've been mentioning this on a little blurb on the podcast, but if you're wondering, is deliverance for me? Is it time you got questions about deliverance for me? Is it time you got questions about deliverance? I have a free 20-minute consultation now that I put up because a lot of people are timid about talking about this stuff and that's the truth. They're like man. People think I'm crazy. So I'm like. I'm going to put this out for people who are maybe shy, insecure, timid, or for those who have tried everything to get rid of demons on their own, the self-deliverance, different deliverance ministries and they're like dude, nothing's helping. There's a resource for you. Go to justindcom, forward, slash, help, fill out the form and if it's a fit, I'll get back with you and we'll schedule an appointment and we'll flush it out and see what's going on. So keep that in mind, john. Back to you, though.

Speaker 1 20:28

So staying out of isolation is so key, and I just want to commend you for that, because it takes grit, it takes willingness to get out of your bed, to get out of your room and go outside, and you've been doing it. Very practical A lot of times. I think people think fighting demons has to be always quoting scripture, which is important, but there are practical ways you can fight demons, and he did it to Cut off the toxic relationship with his mom. That's practical. It's getting rid of the demons, or isolation, going out, staying busy Notice what he said, not to the point where it's workaholism, which I can relate to, that I had workaholism like crazy dude, but busy enough to where isolation can't take root. John, you were mentioning these tools that you're using. You know the Word of God staying busy. How has your prayer life changed since deliverance?

Speaker 2 21:31

Oh yeah, prayer life is definitely key as well. I would say top one, top two. I would tie it with devotion too. I I work as a package delivery guy so I, during my routes, I pray a lot. I think god one time told me to take out the airpods and to really see god during my routes and just regular day life. If I'm doing chores around the house or something, I would just communicate with God in my heart or sometimes verbally, and I've been doing that for about two years as well.

Speaker 2 22:05

And at first all these things take sacrifice. At first it's like going to the gym. Going to the gym is, oh, I don't want to do it, I don't want to. It's too much, it's too much. But then I like to see it as just put the reps in, just put the numbers in. You don't need to have an outcome, you don't need to be like, oh, I need to feel this way or that way after, just did I do it or did I not do it?

Speaker 2 22:28

And I try to keep it simple. Like I need to think God was very judgmental of me. If I tell him all these secret sins I've been doing, he's going to disown me or whatever. But that's not true. I heard somewhere that God sees the worst of you already in the future or whatever, and he already knows and he died for your sins, he paid for your sins and he loved you so much that he took all this punishment. And so we can be. How do you say brave enough to just approach him boldly because he's our father, if we accepted him as savior and so I've been constantly in communication with him and that just replaced that isolation that I felt, that loneliness that I felt, and I noticed that I'm just more happier and people want to be around me more, whereas before I was like super depressed. So I would say my prayer life definitely increased in volume a lot.

Speaker 1 23:37

John. I think that's awesome. It's just the basics of Christianity. So prayer, prayer is essential and it's not difficult, it's just putting in the time. And I mention this often when people come for deliverance sessions with me, I'll ask them things like do you read your Bible daily? No, okay. Do you attend a church regularly? No, okay. How are you expecting demons to go stay away? Then, after we work through this and they get expelled Because they're not, because it requires effort, and I think that's one of the most important messages that I want everyone to understand that when you come for deliverance, it's a lifestyle change. This just isn't get rid of the demons, and I continue doing what I'm doing. It takes a little bit of effort and John's put in that effort and he's seeing the benefits of it. So, john, you're praying, you're reading your Bible.

Speaker 2 25:00

Uh yeah. So I'm more definitely willing to fight now compared to before, two years ago, before I met you. Two years before I met you, I the word fighting just really puts me like, oh, such a drag, I'm not, I'm going to be defeated, I'm going to, I'm not even going to try, I'm just going to let the enemy just hop over me, whereas now I'm like, I'm like in a position I know my position in Christ where Christ is so far above the enemy that I'm like nope, I just by faith, I'm not going to entertain that thought, I'm not going to accept that or be in agreement with those evil thoughts Like, for instance, I'm insecure or I'm not enough to do what God wants me to do, All those lies. Basically, you're fighting with lies every single day, and that's why the word of God is so important. You don't have the word of God.

Speaker 2 25:54

Your offensive weapon is you don't have an offensive weapon and it says in the Bible that your faith is a shield. So you need to have a simple like a child, like back in the day when you were a child. If someone told you you have the propensity to just believe what they're saying oh, santa Claus, like Santa Claus is real, they come down your chimney and you just believe it. And you need to go back to that state where you just believe what God says, not what anybody else says, but what the word of God says over what you see in this world. Yeah, so it's believing, walking by spirit and not by sight. And so when you're in that state of faith and you're walking in authority of Christ, the enemy, he has no power over you, none whatsoever, because the Bible said you're more than a conqueror. So I'm willing to fight and to guard what's going into my heart. And yeah, so it's much like I'm more, I appear more confident and my voice is more alive. I would say so definitely I'm willing to put up a fight now.

Speaker 1 27:04

It's amazing to me, as a blind, listening to your voice two years ago I listened to our interview a little bit two years ago and listening to you now and the confidence that the Lord has built inside of you over the past two years. Many people are very insecure in life and they compensate that insecurity by overachievement or looks or whatever it is. And God has brought a level of security in you. He's worked on you from the inside out and that's really what deliverance is. It's removing the demons so that God the potter, he's the potter, we're the clay so when those demons are gone, he could begin to mold us into what he truly wants us to be in life for his purposes. That's what's awesome, and you know, john, you mentioned about the confidence, but how do you see yourself now as before?

Speaker 2 28:05

Yeah, so I believe that I'm a child of God. That's my. If there's only one state that I am, one sentence that I am a son of God, lowercase s right, because that's who we are. If we believe in Jesus Christ and we believe the work that he's done for us to save us from our sins, so that's who we are truly and we're adopted. So I'm adopted into his family, into a family of God.

Speaker 2 28:33

There's so much weight to that that people don't understand. And you look up in the stars like you see how big the universe is and he made this small planet with billions and billions of people and you look at everything that's around you, all the technology that you have. God is the original creator of that and he called you his child and he loves you so much. So that's what I see more of myself on Now.

Speaker 2 29:00

I do get attacks every single day to make myself insecure, to make myself vulnerable to the enemy, because the enemy is all around us, but I see myself as a child of God and from that standpoint you become more confident, and not in ourselves, because you know it's better, it's way more stronger to be more confident in the Lord. It's better, it's way more stronger, to be more confident in the Lord, and you're going to be confident by default because you're secure and the person that you're holding on to is much stronger than anything that this world can ever put in front of you. So, definitely, I see myself as a child of God and I see myself as trying to represent who he is to people around me.

Practical Ways to Fight Demons

Speaker 1 29:46

That's awesome how many people struggle to understand and accept that they're loved by God and that they are a child of God. I've went through that myself. I think each of us have in life. Right, it's the acceptance that we're loved, acceptance that God created us for his purposes and that he actually cares. Many people wrestle with that in life and this is a benefit of deliverance that John's experiencing, that he's now able to step into that, not just with head understanding, like hearing preaching about it, and be like, yes, that's true, no, but actually feeling it inside of himself, believing it. That's because the demons have been removed that were blocking him from receiving this. And, john, let me ask you what fruit of the Spirit has grown most in you, past deliverance fruit or fruits?

Speaker 2 30:49

yeah, that's a great question. I would say definitely. Out of all the nine fruit characteristics, I would say self-discipline or self-control definitely increased the most from what I've observed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 31:05

That's huge. That is huge Temperance, self-control. I'm thinking of my life, dude, when you're sharing that. Guys, think of our lives, how out of control we are in different areas. And sometimes that's just psychological patterns that's been deeply ingrained in us over life, but oftentimes it's demon-induced. Oftentimes it's demon-induced and this is what John's benefiting from. Deliverance here is now. He doesn't have weeds growing in there with the fruit, the demons have been removed. Now he's got that temperance, the self-control, the discipline, getting out of the isolation, all of these things he's experiencing because he humbled himself, came for deliverance and now he's walking in a level of freedom and peace, albeit there is warfare.

Speaker 1 32:03

Demons just don't go away. They come back around and try to get back in. They're never creative in the sense they're always going to target the same areas. They might be creative on how they target, but they're always going to target the same areas. And we simply have to do what the book of James says Submit to God All areas of our life, submit to God, resist the devil, then he will flee. So, number one submit to God. Number two resist the devil. That's emotional strain. That's the fight right there. I am not going to smoke the marijuana, I am not going to stay in this room in isolation. I am no longer holding on to this offense and anger and resentment toward my whoever right Friend, father, mother, ex-spouse, etc. Etc. Cleaning that inside up, cleaning it up, not allowing Satan to get back in and hamper the growth of the fruit of the Spirit. We talked about tools. John, are you connected to a church or a community?

Speaker 2 33:14

Yes, I am. I go to church on a regular basis and I serve at my church as working on a pro-presenter and the cameras, so it's a local church pretty close by. I try to interact with the people even outside of church. I think that's important too. Yeah, so that really helped too. That really helped too.

Speaker 1 33:36

And I think it's awesome that you mentioned you're plugged into church. Many are not, and I get it. It's hard to find a church in today's culture and climate that's really preaching the true Word of God, but they are available and they are there. You just have to look. But John is not only attending church. But here's the key that stuck out to me. What you said, john, is you're serving, and I think that's important because a lot of times, when it comes to being freed from demons, being a servant is a great way, especially at a local church, even if that's being a greeter at the door, even if that's saying, hey, I'm going to volunteer to clean the church on Saturdays. Or John, helping with the video production and the audio. By serving it helps minimize the demons and the level of attack that they can have. They hate servanthood because Jesus Christ was a servant. Now I understand that some of you listening have been servants to abusive people and all that. That's not what we're talking about. Like you've been controlled. Some of you even have been spiritually abused in churches through controlling pastors and so forth. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about somebody that goes to a quote-unquote healthy church where you can serve and do something. I think it's essential. But again, I go back to how many come for deliverance and they don't go to church, they don't read their Bible every day, but yet they want to be free and John is illustrating to us here, two years after his deliverance, the things he—this is wonderful.

Speaker 1 35:17

I went and I mentioned this, the other podcast. If I was 25 years old and I had a resource like this to listen and understand what it takes to be freed from demons, oh my gosh, my whole life would have been different, because at 25, I picked 25 because that's like the mid of your prime, so to speak my whole life would have unfolded drastically different. And you have this opportunity, friend, you who have been listening for a while, hesitant to get rid of your demons. Listen, you have this at your fingertips. I didn't. I suffered for 30 years with demons because I didn't have the help that I needed. You do my encouragement, take advantage of it. So, john, we've been talking about practical things, of maintaining deliverance. I know in our first interview you were going to pursue IT. How has your IT pursuit been going?

Speaker 2 36:17

Oh yeah, it's been a slow and steady journey. Now the economy there's been, honestly, a lot of layoffs with, even within the tech economy, but I definitely improved my skills in software and a little bit of hardware too. Right now, thankfully, working with a client I'm building his website with functionalities that requires custom code. So I'm building that and it's been pretty fun. I'm getting paid doing it as well. Also, have other job opportunities even in this economy that we have, and so maybe making a lot of progress, and I've been going at it like pretty regularly studying on my own even after my full-time job. So I see this as a long-term thing. Whatever God wants to do with it. They'll open doors, he'll close doors. So, yeah, that's it.

Finding Purpose and Identity

Speaker 1 37:09

I just picked up on there. You had mentioned that you have a full-time job, Thank you, Jesus, and this is in addition to that, and so that's wonderful. A lot of times, demons stifle, restrict and cause people to be in poverty, and John was experiencing that before deliverance and after deliverance. He's had a full-time job for two years and he's been doing his IT work on the side and picking up money on the side, all led by the Lord. Another benefit of deliverance Now, John didn't come to get delivered so he could make money. So if that's what you're hearing, that's not the message. The message is, because he got rid of his demons and he loves Jesus Christ with his whole heart and money doesn't own him that Jesus is blessing him financially. He's doing what needs to be done. This is great. Good job, John. You know you got all of these benefits of Jesus Christ. Thank you, Lord. I experienced these and many of you do. John, at this point, do you feel like you're walking in your purpose for God?

Speaker 2 38:22

At this point, yeah, yeah, more so compared to two years ago. Now there are some areas that, personally, talking with the Lord, where does he want me to do Now? Give me some picture of like real long-term subjects that he wants me to tackle towards. But I also want to, because I don't want to rely on my strength, so I'm taking it day by day. I think the key thing is make sure you're in continual relationship with God through reading your word and prayer Very basic stuff, but it's the lifeblood of your relationship with God through reading your word and prayer Very basic stuff, but it's the lifeblood of your relationship with God and he'll guide you. He'll make it very smooth experience.

Speaker 2 39:02

And another thing is time. Sometimes God wants you to just wait on him and it's literally time, and during those times he wants you to do what you're supposed to be doing, at the same time relying on him for the outcome. Like this client that I had, I wasn't even looking for a client, just came to my doorstep and thank God for that. I didn't have to do like marketing all these marketing that from a business world they do to find clients. It just came towards me and it was because I let go of the area financially, that God was like, okay, money doesn't really have your heart at this moment. So you know, I'm going to open that door for you. So that's how it goes sometimes.

Speaker 1 39:44

Very true. Letting go and letting God. I think. I think that's key, John, this is great, this is great man. What would you say to the old you two years ago? So here we are today, two years past your deliverance, Looking back. What would you say to the old you two years ago?

Speaker 2 40:06

Things get better. Things get better. I realized why part of me was so depressed at the time. I understand why you were so depressed Now, looking back. It's because you feel like on earth you're going to go to heaven. You're going to go to heaven and heaven is going to be amazing, but God, like you can. The kingdom of God is within you and there's so much hope, even in the land of the living.

Speaker 2 40:31

The Bible says I would have lost heart unless I believe that there's hope in the land of the living, meaning God can work in and through you and you'll see things manifest if you have faith in him and trust in him continually, and things will manifest. Because at the time you think that, oh, god doesn't want you to be happy. God doesn't want you to have this, god doesn't want you to have this. God doesn't want you to have that In constraint. God does want you to have, wants you to be happy. God does want you to prosper. And that was a deception that I believe that God doesn't want me to prosper at all. He wants me to just be poor. He just wants me to be in my room all day like praying and not doing anything else. God does want you to expand his kingdom in full reliance on him.

Speaker 2 41:18

So know that things are going to get better. There's so much hope. You know hope is oxygen. You got to trust in Jesus. That is your hope, not any anything else. Everything else is is not reliable. Look at the stock market. It's so volatile right now. Look at crypto and all this stuff and people are very fickle. Unfortunately, so am I. You can't place anything full trust except for Jesus, and so know that things are going to get better. Keep doing what you got to do and just keep reaching out to keep seeking the kingdom of God, like you're doing right now, where you're reaching out to Justin for deliverance, reaching out to him, and I'm telling you things are going to get better. At the other side, you'll feel satisfied.

Speaker 1 42:05

That's awesome, isn't that great guys? He's literally looking back two years ago, talking to that person two years ago and sharing that there is hope and notice. He was bound in poverty. John was under a generational curse of poverty. He had two generational curses of poverty that we broke off of his life through the compassion, mercy and authority of Jesus Christ, and when those generational curses of poverty were broken, he was able to then come out of the mindset that the demons had him in. God doesn't want you to have anything. Stay in the basement in isolation with us here. John, have a piece of cake? Can I get you a cup of coffee? Come on into isolation, let's just stay here and hang out. Be poor. This is what demons do. They stay in your head, they afflict you, they vex you. Don't give them a place to stay. Kick them out, and John did. Place to stay. Kick him out, and John did. That's awesome, guys. I think we've covered enough to really show the awesome restoring hand of Jesus Christ on John's life. I pray that you have found great encouragement from hearing from John.

Speaker 1 43:30

Many times I work with people, they go through exorcism. Some of them get in touch and shoot me an email hey, I'm doing great thanks, things like that, but oftentimes they don't. They move on and that's fine. But John has remained in touch. Every month or two he'll shoot an email and it's just been amazing to me to see the stability come into his life, the financial blessings that God has brought in him, and to see this young man putting forth the effort that's required for freedom.

Message to Those Still Struggling

Speaker 1 44:04

And there are some of you listening that are my age I'm 52 and unwilling to put in any effort and unwilling to put in any effort. This is who I am. Take it or leave it. I'm not doing it. Give me my Marlboro cigarettes and give me another cup of that black coffee. I'm not doing anything Right. This is who I am. I've been through trauma in life. Don't tell me I got to get rid of my demons. If I want to keep them, I'm going to keep them.

Speaker 1 44:42

Guys, you know I love to joke, man. I'm sorry, but this is hysterical, because there's many people who listen. Maybe they're not smoking Marlboro Reds and drinking black coffee, but they're doing different things to cope with the pain, to cope with the demons, and they just don't want to improve. They want to stay stuck in life, and John did not want to stay stuck in life. He got out of this two years ago. He's 29 years old now and he's freed from demons and his whole life is going to be completely different.

Speaker 1 45:18

Oh, john, congratulations, man, congratulations. I'm so excited for you. You've got your whole life ahead of you, freed from these demons, living for Jesus Christ, doing what's necessary to stay free. You're going to have a great life and, again, I wish somebody would have helped me in this way when I was 25 years old. My life would have been drastically different, not being stressed and strained by demons influencing decisions, influencing my life. Thank you, lord, for freeing John. Thank you for freeing me and for those of you listening who have been freed. Amen.

Speaker 1 46:02

This is what this is about, man. This is why I got the podcast, so that we can all come to an understanding what does it mean to have demons and what does it mean to walk in freedom, and today was a great episode to really illustrate it concretely before everyone. This is freedom right here. This is freedom, and I invite you to reach out to me, man. I invite you to reach out to me and let's see if it's a good fit to start working together. John, I want to come back to you just for one more question, one more thought here as we close. What do you want to say to someone listening that still feels hopeless?

Speaker 2 46:47

Yeah, I'll come back to what I said to myself two years ago there is hope. It is a lie that there's no hope. Just believe in that. It's all about mindset and choosing what. You have a choice to have what you want to believe or what you don't want to believe it. So if you want to be free and if you want to have a more joyous life, then you got to believe that there is hope and you have a choice to believe that and keep holding on to that belief that there is hope out there for you. There's so much hope. Look around you.

Speaker 2 47:22

If you live in America, most people around the world they live 75%. I don't know the exact number, but 75% of world lives like $2 a day or less. So if you're in America right now, you're basically living like kings and queens. So it's all about mindset and agreeing with God's word and over time, over years, it's going to take time, it's going to take a lot of effort, but take it day by day. When you take it day by day, it's a lot easier, right? Oh, I just need to get one more day, get through one more day. And so the biggest thing is to have faith, meaning you need to believe that there is hope out there and his name is Jesus and you got to believe that things are going to get better and you've got to walk in this road that God sets out before you. To summarize, it's all about having faith in Jesus, who is the living hope, and placing continual faith in him throughout your day. It's not okay. I placed faith in him once and it's done. It's constant trusting in him and he'll lead you, he'll guide you to a better place. He's our shepherd.

Speaker 2 48:35

And then number two I would say is taking responsibility for yourself. When I was in that state of depression and just inner turmoil, poverty even, I had a big hand in that. I had a big hand in allowing those demons to wreak havoc in my life and restraining me from what God wants me to do. And I have to take responsibility, be like, okay, this is the part I play and go forward from that, because I think a lot of people nowadays, maybe in the Western world, they don't take responsibility. They like to point fingers oh, is this demon, that demon world? They don't take responsibility. They like to point fingers. Oh, is this demon, that demon? Yeah, yeah, it's definitely that demon, but there was a door that was open, and when you take responsibility, you're more able to be responsible, and discipline is tied to being responsible for your life. God gave you your life to steward it.