Kim's Life in Music

Early Childhood Sounds Like The 70s

Kim opens up her heart and soul to us today - We're talking music. Next week we will do Charlye's life, and then, HOW ITS WITCHY. See, we always bring it back around.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Hello. We're reve we're bearing our souls to you today. I'm scared. We're talking about music.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Okay, the idea came from Ken because he made a playlist about his time downrange when he was deployed to Afghanistan. Which was a scary time.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Which prompted you to say, what if we made playlists about our life? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

And so these for my list, this is not when the songs came out. It is when I found them. Because some of them you guys grew up, you guys being people who aren't Gen X, grew up with. And I didn't listen to them when they came out. And I found them later on when I started talking to more people. And this is a very short version of my list. So short.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

I wanted to talk about the shortness of it. I want to say up front that this is not a comprehensive list by any means. Because even in making it, and then of course going through yours, and then even just now talking when you were like talking about older songs, I can still think of distinct A2s where I'm like, I should have added, you know, I've added an honorable mention section that is just me shouting out bands. I'll probably do it as I remember it. I'll just jump and be like, remember when your dad told you about Led Zeppelin? Yeah. Um so Yeah, exactly. Right. So uh we're gonna bust this, we're busting this open over two episodes. And um, how are we gonna do this? Who's gonna go first? Well, let me read my little intro. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm I'm getting so excited. I'm just I'm just scared. I want this over with, I'm nervous. No.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah, I just I we had just told each other we're kind of scared to do this because we're burying our souls in in this.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Yeah. Did you edit yours down? Did you did you take a look at a couple of songs? I mean, not oh, you mean nothing? Not even length.

unknown 2:27

No.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

There were some that I was like, this is this is mine. I'm keeping this for me.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

No, you get everything. So these there are very important and beautiful pieces of music that I couldn't include just because it's already pretty long. Um you can see the progress because I did mine chronologically, and I actually have questions about yours because I'm not sure how that went, but I did mine chronologically, so you can see the progress of when I was able to choose my own music, outside influences, like romantic relationships, general mental states. And for me, it's these specific versions of the song, like the live versus versus the studio versus the radio edit, the ones I link to on my playlist, which by the way, you guys can the playlist will be linked below, so you can check the show notes. But um there it's it's either some of the wording is different or the way their voices are or pe a piece of the music really got to me. Some of them, like Oingo Boingo, and Seal, that the songs I chose are meant to be placeholders for the entire album because Yes. Yeah. Holy shit.

unknown 3:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Yeah. There was there was a couple that I was like, how do I not just do the whole album? Because it wasn't one song in particular. Uh so yeah, yeah. Please check out our full playlists. Uh, I believe mine is clocking in at 92 songs, which is says it's about six hours of music.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Uh yeah, I just got the 47 version.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

That's still a lot of freaking music, dude.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

I haven't done mine yet. The buy big one. I only massively trimmed. Massively.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

I um I took this to mean when when you came to me and said we should do this about our life. I I have songs on mine that are era specific, but I also have songs on mine that are I don't know how to explain it, just just important to me in some way for one reason or another. So that's every song on my playlist, not just songs that I like. In fact, there's probably some songs on here that I don't even like super care for anymore. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

I also want to point out this is witchcraft related. This is not just us coming on and saying, well, that's cool, our cool music taste. This is going to turn into witchcraft. You just get to look learn a little bit about us first.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Sure. Yeah. And and I've got a little section in mine, and I wish I would have filled it out more, but that would have been, again, you're gonna have to go to the full playlist for it. But I have a section here where I put some of the first like intentionally witchy songs. Yeah. You know, and then and then going back through my playlist, I was like, wait, I've been listening to this for years, this is witchy as fuck. Um but yeah. So uh I'll also say that I don't typically listen to music and also watch the music videos. So a lot of the time like I saw a lot of the music videos for the first time today. Me too. Listen. Some are great, some are wild, some are unnecessary. I don't know if you mean mine or yours, but both, probably. There I was specifically, if you if you want to know what was specific in my head, it was, and I have a section here that a lot of people I feel are gonna skip because I have a whole section relating to country music. I'm from Texas, get over it, sorry, but I have one that is very special to me because me and my mom share it and it's a whole thing with us. But it's My Maria by Brooks and Dunn. That music video is so fucking stupid. I love that song. Probably weirdly culturally like inappropriate. Like I it it ugh. Anyway, uh I I stole also the idea from you to kind of put this in a in a chronological order. Because at first I was just like, here's the goth stuff, here's the sad stuff, you know. So uh yeah, I I went back and reworked it.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

The videos I actually remember when MTV first came out. So vid videos are big in my mind because some of the videos, not necessarily in this particular playlist, but there are some songs that I like because of the video. David Bowie's Blue Gene. Legend not legend, the something about Blue Jean.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Do you remember the first music video that you ever witnessed?

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Yeah. What was it? It was this the first one they played, bro.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

Video Kill the Radio Star? Yeah. Hey! Wow. Uh mine was Michael Jackson's thriller. Which if you're gonna start anywhere, you know, why not start with that one?

SPEAKER_00 7:49

I want to do this with videos too, so let's save that conversation. Because I want to do this with videos. Oh boy. There are so many really good videos.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Oh yeah. So I guess P MTV A VH1.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Yeah. I remember when it died. I remember when it was like people were starting to have that conversation of like, what's happening? You know.

SPEAKER_00 8:11

But uh I just remember seeing Billy Idol skiing and going, shh, I want my MTV. Billy Idol. Uh-huh. No, I didn't mean Billy Idol. What the hell? I meant David Bowie. Oh, well, okay. I think Billy Idol did it too, but I meant David Bowie.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

It's easier to imagine David Bowie doing that, I think, for me. Uh this is also something that has forced me to, first of all, this yanked me forcibly back through space and time through my life. Yep. Yes. In a way that I wasn't expecting, because I was like, oh yeah, I'll just put some songs that I know that I liked or whatever. But then in like going back through it, it was like, whoa. I will also say I have never felt older in my whole life to see certain bands or certain singers, songwriters, whatever, what they look like now versus what they look like in my head and or memory. Oh boy, we're all getting old. It's coming for us. Uh all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Okay, who are who's going what are we doing first? Let me do my shout-outs real quick. Honorable mention of people who did not make this list, but are on a list. Fleetwood Mac, Elvis Costello, Dire Straits, The Outfield, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, PM Dawn, Feist, Queensreich, and The Violent Femmes. I love you all.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

I love the Violent Femmes.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Me too.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

See, and more of the things. Count it off, bro.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

I know, that's what's really fun and sort of scary. Especially the ones, the kid ones, like the first ones on my list.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

I felt such a resonance with those, and we'll talk about them because uh I think there's a couple of ways we can do this. We haven't really uh so behind the scenes, we're recording this all in one go because Kim has a very exciting thing that she's gonna go do very soon and talk about it, hopefully, when you get back from it. But we're pre-recording, we're getting ready. Uh so for us, this is a very long music discussion, but for you guys, it's gonna be busted into two. So we could either go back and forth, like your childhood, my childhood, or we could do the Kim episode and the Charlie episode. Whatever you think.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

I don't know. You want to flip a coin? How cohesive do you think it's gonna be? Not I don't know what I have nicotine gum. Do you want writing or gum? I'll say gum! It's writing side up. Okay. I don't know what what that means. That's your internet granddad. That was you. Okay. I had already forgotten.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Grandpa.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Open up your chest, dig into it, get your heart, and put it on a platter and give it to all of us right now.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

So first we have Neil Young Sugar Mountain. This is the live version because I like it better, but when I was little, I was listening to my dad's album. Kat Stevens Moon Shadow, Michael Martin Murphy's Wildfire, and John Anderson's Swingin'.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

I was very pleased to see Swingin'. Okay, so go on. This this is how early is early childhood for you.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

From birth. Like this is the music that was playing on the radio and that my dad. I remember specifically being on the car on a road trip and wildfire came on the radio. And you know, this is not like the time, this is when you had to listen to the radio.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

With commercials. There was no skipping.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

We're gonna boomer pretty hard this episode. We've got things to we already had the cassette tape, mixtape conversation. We're gonna have it again. Uh yes, so you were in you're listening to the radio.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, I just I remember being in the back seat, leaning with my head leaned against the window, looking out the window, and this was actually also before they got real strict on seatbelt laws. So I don't even know if I had a seatbelt on. Hell yeah. And I remember thinking, I want a pony one day, so bad. That's like the beginning of horse girl.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say foot that was that was uh on wildfire when I was going through your list. I was like, it's basically a slideshow of horses, and I was like, oh yeah, she's a horse girl. I remember this. Roharin. Yeah, that's my people. Oh. Did you know most of those actors were were women on horses? And you already know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Did you know? Did you know that he broke his toe? Okay. Did you notice that Legolas? Oh God. That makes me laugh every time I hear you do it. What? That makes me laugh every time I hear you talk about it. What? Did you know? Oh Lord of the Rings, did you know's? I thought you meant so what here is a list of questions that I had. What did these songs make you think about my life at that time?

SPEAKER_01 13:39

I get a very specific feeling.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Is it 1976?

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Yes. Yeah. Yes, it is. I get a very specific feeling, and it's like, again, I don't know the circumstances of each and every one of these songs, but it does feel, it has that feeling of you're hearing these songs via someone else. As you do at that age. I mean, yes, you can pop the radio on, but generally at that age, if you're hearing real music and not like kid music, it's because one of your parents popped it on, or you were, you know, I I have memories of being in the grocery store and certain songs playing. Jewel, I remember played a lot. Um what was that big famous one she had in the 90s? I don't remember. But I just it and it's like you said with your head up against the glass in the car, you remember the weirdest little snapshots.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Because I remember being in the freezer section with my mom at a pigly wiggly, and Jewel was playing over the over the thing. So yeah. No, I think I I feel the like dusty shag carpet wood furniture 70s from this section of your wood panel.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Yes. Yes. I can feel it so vividly. So Neil Young was from my dad. He actually had that album. So that's the only songs, four songs from childhood that was his influence. Moon Shadow, I mean, if you listen to the words as a kid, it just sounds fun. And I think that was the beginning of my love affair with the moon. And my sister and I would be outside playing in the dark. And sometimes we would sing together, because I mean, we're poor kids in a trailer park and there's not much going on. So we would just be like, We're gonna sing Linda Ronstadt songs together, and this song and the eagles.

unknown 15:36

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

How do you feel about the eagles? I love 'em.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

And wildfire where we've gone over swinging, just a swingin'. Just a swinging. Swingin'. So that was a radio song, and I remember being down at KK's house. I'm sorry. And she had her own radio, and we none of us had radios. She had a boom box, in fact. So we had more control over the music, and this was one of our favorite songs.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

I like to just, I'm just gonna, I think I I want to occasionally just pull some lyrics from your songs. I just like.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Her name was Charlotte Johnson, and she sure was looking good.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

There we go. I had to go and see her, so I called her on the phone. Oh my god, right over to her. And you know it was the kind with the rotary dial. Yeah. Oh, that too. Her brother was on the sofa eating chocolate pie. Mama was in the kitchen cutting up chicken a fry. Yeah. There you go. That's the vibe. This is this is this is vaguely country.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

And that was life. That was that was a description of how life was in my neighborhood.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Daddy was in the backyard rolling up a garden hose. You can you can well, for me it was a joint. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Well my dad was rolling up a lot of things. But in music, it could be perfect. Yes. So that was my life up until about 12 is songs like that. What did these songs make you think about my life slash me? Did you hear any specific songs that made you wonder what was going on in my life at the time? Because there's one song for you that I really like. Really? Okay. All right. I'm um What do you think was going on at certain points? And for you, is it the videos or the songs that have more meaning? Are there any videos you especially remember that had meaning if you didn't particularly care about the song? Is it the words versus the music? And I said, please explain the layout of your playlist. I went chronologically, but it doesn't feel like you did, and we're already decided to get into that. Those were my questions.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. So um did you did you have some of those to like ask and answer for yourself, or were these for me to answer about you as well? Both. Okay. Um yeah, at this point, since we're still in in childhood, we're in that glorious part of time where nothing has too super much meaning, at least in the moment, you know? And it's not really till you look back and you're like, oh, I, you know, I think when you're a kid, you're not listening to lyric. I mean, you're probably except for wildfire. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

But like a song about a pony, your bitch is in it.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Or if it's the song genuine, genuine song pony, when I remember being like eight or nine.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

I would have listened to that song as a child and thought ponies.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

I thought it was funny because I thought it sounded like burping sounds. You know, the yeah, I thought it was giggled because it was like this is like a burp. Uh, and then that also leads you to realize how many of the songs you grow up in then re-listen to, and you go, oh, yes. Wow. How did my parents let me listen to that? Exactly. Um, yeah, so I think we're just in that glorious, hazy childhood moment right now.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Yeah. And then we move on to, I don't remember what I called it. Teenhood. When I was able to start picking my own music and got influenced by other people.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

This is where it gets, you start to see some like shaping of a person, which is really funny. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

And I remember all of these sp have specific memories attached to them. So Sinead O'Connor, nothing compares to you. I chose the live version because I like it, but it was the radio cut, and this is one of the first Columbia House uh music club things. The very first one was the next song, but this is also one of the ones that I bought. And just it her her voice was so interesting and the music was so interesting and different from anything I was used to hearing that I just loved it.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

Yeah. And that's such a good song. Truly. It is a really good song. I I think it was, oh god, one of those adult animation family guy or something where they referred to it as the saddest song that like ever existed. And it's just such a good, like, ooh, oh my god, Macy Gray.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Also, Macy Gray. Oh my god. See? Try to walk around in the stumble. That's one of the saddest songs ever.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

Yeah. Anyway. Oh, that's so sad. But yeah, that's one of the honorable mention songs. God damn.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Also, while we're talking about Shine O'Connor, you know that song that she has about the Irish famine? I wanna talk about Oreland. Oh. More specifically, I wanna talk about the famine. It's a it's it's a good song. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

So the next one is the first album that I ever it's the first music I ever picked myself and paid for myself. And it's David Bowie Let's Dance. And the song Let's Dance, it's just David Bowie's voice is amazing. His range is gorgeous, the sound of his voice is gorgeous. I love his music. I love David Bowie. I know parts of his life is are problematic. And that makes me really sad. Yeah. But this is one of the formative songs of. My life said that so it's on here.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

And you can't change that, you know. There there are some songs that I feel like were at least important to me, but now I can't listen to them because you can't really hear particular artists and not be like I know what happened. But like, you know, there's there's there's a sadness that feels like almost a selfish sadness that's like, I wish you weren't horrible so I could still like this song. But uh or story. Or book series. Yeah. Did you know Rick James is like a real bad dude? Yes. Did you know he like held somebody captive for a long time? Yeah. Okay, I didn't know. I didn't know he knew that. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

And then we have EMF Unbelievable, which um I blared at my first car graduation. I pulled out of the grade graduation lot parking lot, blaring this song. Oh, you're unbelievable. What the fuck? Groovy unbelievable. Fuck school. I'm out of here. This is amazing. Let's go. And then Falco Roch Mi Amadeus was sort of my little baby intro to rap.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Which I learned today. He's hot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Oh no, and he had a really sad life. He died tragically, and I was sad about it. Oh, shit. I uh and I bought his album and I really liked it. So give him a listen.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Yeah. And I and I like how you can see here there's like a smattering of genres that you see later in your lists sort of become a little more cohesive. You know? So uh ghetto boys.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Ghetto boys. Shit. My mind's playing tricks on me. That's a formative one. I forgot that honorable mention. Again.

unknown 24:09

Oh my god. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Then we move into uh the next one that I also forget what it is, but it's young adult.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Just moved out of parents' house married for the first time. I don't know if you want me to say that. I can't. Yes, I do.

unknown 24:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

So one of my very, very, very it's probably my favorite band, Oingo Boingo, the song No One Lives Forever. This version specifically, the music is amazing, the horns are great, and Danny Elfman's voice is soaring over all of it. And this the words, like the visual pictures that it gives you. The song is great.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

You have no less than two Oingo Bongo tattoos, do you not?

SPEAKER_00 24:59

Um, I know I have one, and I don't remember if I have another because I keep forgetting where they come from. That's why they are. That is wild to me. But I do think after finishing this, my next one is going to be song lyrics from another song that's on here.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

So you'll you will definitely, at least at that point. Well, is it from isn't an Owengo Boingo song? Yeah. Well then you will then at least have no less than two.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Maybe more, but you're not sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

And then the downtown.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

Oh, you tell me. Oh, I was just gonna say, I I had a little crushy crush on Owen Go on Owen Go on Danny Elfman's voice before I even knew who it was. Uh, because he he sang the song, uh the songs and um sings Jack Skellington's parts in Nightmare Before Christmas. And I remember gorgeous. So in love. I just loving the sound. And then later being like, oh, that's a whole ass dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

And he did the Batman music. That's true. So good. I uh he's gotten kind of strange looking in his age. I have to look. See, I'm kind of strange looking now, but I had a big old crush on him when he was in his white uh A-shirt suspenders days.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

Naturally a redhead? Mm-hmm. Huh. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

My first boyfriend was also naturally a redhead. Whoa, Lord, dude. Insert name here that I'm not gonna say, but yep, old that kid. My first kiss as well.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Lornandy. Just call him B. Old B. Okay. Old B. I like Lornandy. Okay. We'll go with B.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

So then the Downtown by Days of the New, that was the first song I heard from them. There are other songs that I actually like more. But again, the the interesting musical choices that they have, his voice is cool, the grittiness of the sound, and I didn't know it at the time, but the influence of Dead Can Dance. I enjoy that because I like them too, and I hadn't gotten into them. I heard Days of the New first. And Days of the New does this insane thing where all their albums are called Days of the New. It's very hard to find individual songs based on that. It drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Everyone should just do like Led Zeppelin and just have like one, two, three, four. Yeah. That's what everyone should do.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

Yes. Don't call them all the same. Don't call them all one, the same thing, and two, it's the name of your band. Don't do this. What a great troll, though.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Like George Foreman.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Oh wow. And then seal, prayer for the dying. Oh, his voice makes me have tears sometimes. And you know what Frisson is, where your your hair stands up. Yes. Except I was gonna say from his voice so often.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

You know Frission? Say it one more time for the old, old dumbass. Frisson. Frison.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Because if I say frission, my best friend will hear it in France and come murder me in my sleep. Is French, yes. Who will take offense? And she'll be like, what are you know better than that? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 28:40

I love it. I know I've told you how to say that. I love that. I love that feeling. I love that when when a song gives you like I I remember growing up and Macy and I would play songs and we'd be like, we didn't know how to describe it, but we'd be like, it it gives me goosebumps. Yes. You know, and now to learn that there's a word for it, you're like, oh, hey, everyone feels this. I wasn't dying of some weird disease.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

So David Bowie um on this list, David Bowie, Seal, and somebody else that I we just talked about. Uh Days of the New? No, maybe I didn't talk about them. It was level 42. I didn't even go over level 42.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

I noticed you skipped that you had decided to uh to to change your mind. But that's level 42. That's in the childhood section. Or the teen.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Yeah, I had a giant, giant, giant crush on Rutger Hauer. I mean, I still do. Because of Ladyhawk. And then a movie called Wanted Dead or Alive.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Oh, wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

And and then when I saw this video, he kind of vaguely looked like Rutger Hauer. But I also really liked the song. And then I became obsessed with him. And he plays, he's one of the first people to play slap bass. He had his hand shirt insured for like three million dollars or something. I was like, holy crap, that's amazing. So I have a lot of weird level 42 trivia. Also, they're named after one of my favorite books, um, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I was like, I like these guys, and that's why that is on there because that's one of my big this is something I'm into myself.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Yeah. Um there's there's bands I I've seen are authors of like books that I like that mention like Well, okay, I'm gonna say it. Stephanie Myers Twilight. Okay, listen, she talked about She talked about Muse a lot, which is a band I already knew of, but I remember at that time getting heavily into Muse because I was like, this is where it came from.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

That's why something similar happened to me with Chinese food. Oh because I was the I was like insanely an insane trekkie growing, like a crazy person. Welcome to the O part of OCD. Into Star Trek.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

I did not know this about you.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

Huge Trekkie. Love it. I'm a huge Trekkie. Uh Trekker, if you want to be like not a little teen bopper person. Anyway, when I was obsessively reading a Star Trek things, one of the things I really got into, and this was also my introduct introduction to conventions, was they talked about conventions and they would all go and do the panels and presentations and stuff, and then they'd all get Chinese food. And I had never had Chinese food because my mom thinks sour cream was weird. So we didn't have things like Chinese food growing up.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

I'm sorry, pause. Okay. Uh my mom's real white. Hey, good to know. Sour cream, huh? Yeah, that's weird. Guacamole, oh, that's foreign. Oh. Okay, yeah, no. We we we you and I personally had this discussion recently. Yeah, but uh uh there are some strange memories of places you couldn't eat growing up because they were too weird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Yes. So anyway, Seal's voice does that for me, and I prefer this is one of my favorite songs. I think it's super pretty. The lyrics are nice. I think it's a very sweet song, and I like it.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Is this one uh prayer for the dying?

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

Which that album cover?

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And then we move into Grungeville. And Nirvana was the first song of that time like that that I heard, and it blew my mind. It was so different and so gritty and so hard, and the lyrics were crazy, and the name of the album. It was just so cool. It's just it was such a good introduction to that sort of music. And then you see that I got into like harder music because I was growing up on poppy, you know, Beatles, top 40 stuff. And then I split up with that boyfriend. The one who I was listening to the Beatles with and that sort of 60s monkeys stuff like that. Broke up with him and started listening to this sort of stuff, and I got introduced to Alan's and Alice and Chains and Man in the Box. Still one of my favorites. Ugh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

And I so appreciate Grunge for, and I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I so appreciate Grunge. Especially because I it's one of, I won't say the last, but it's one of the last like big huge pivots, I think, that music has taken, at least, you know, subcategory like raw music, whatever, has taken in a very long time. I don't think we've seen anything as like out of nowhere and different as that was when it came on the scene, was like, shit.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Yeah. Yes. And freaking uh shit. Who is it? The song Black Holmes Pearl Jam. Oh. Pearl Jam too, another honorable mention. I rem I have a specific Pearl Jam memory. We were listening to Jeremy, and I was in the backseat of a Jeep, and I had just met these dudes, and I was in the army, and we were going out to the club, and I was just in the backseat of these car with dudes I didn't know. Jeremy Spoken! Yeah. And I was like, these guys are cool. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

I also do love Eddie Metter's voice. Yeah. It's just such a specific yes. He just encapsulates that 90s, like, what the fuck did you just say? Kind of. I love it. Is this this is where it changes, right? Uh let me see. The last one on your young adults is the Alice and Chains.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Yeah. Okay. Because I knew Caether was after I got a divorce. That's how I tell time. But I realize I mixed up the order because Madan and Abdel Kader were from Germany. When I lived in Germany, I found those. And I watched that movie about Muhammad Ali, I think, and they played a Salif Kaita song. I think it might be called Tomorrow, but his voice, he's called the Lion, the Golden Lion of Africa, I believe. And his story is really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Badass name, dude. Isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 36:25

That's super cool. His story is interesting in that he is an albino and his he's from, I think, Molly. And his dad was like, that's obviously not my kid. I'm not white. And so he pretty much disowned him. And then he got into music, and there's a term called Griot, G-R-I-O-T, and I might be putting some weird accents where they don't belong, because I don't speak any of the languages that are involved in this. Sure. Um, I think it's a French term, but it's this it's a word that means a storyteller through song, through music, and that's what he considers himself. His voice is amazing, and this is one of the the really a fun, bouncy song that I like a lot. And then Abdel Kader. I also could be pronouncing that wrong because I definitely don't speak any of the languages from that area, but I have no idea what they're talking about because they're speaking an Arabic language. But it, they mean it. Yeah, it's three, it's it's essential, it's like the uh um you know when the three tenors sing opera together. This is like that version for this style of music. That's who these people are. They're amazing. Their s their voices are great. The song is so motivating, and it really makes me feel like I need to go do something. But I don't know what, but it's gonna be important.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

I gotta go! Yeah, yeah. Put it on the on the on the motivation playlist, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

Yeah, it's really good. So I I hope people will listen to these songs, even if you don't listen to the whole playlist. Pick a couple songs that you're like, what in the hell? This is definitely one of them. Because it's so good. And it and I think that it's not something that your average American person listening to this would hear. Mm-hmm. Same from my Don. Then we get into my divorce, which uh Cether and OK Go were two he really, really had those two on repeat. Not these two songs specifically. These are just the two songs that introduced me to these bands. And I really liked it.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

That's funny because they uh seem pretty off, they're not much like each other, Cether and OK Go. But when you like But when you peel it back through the lens of like, I was, you know, going through something, this was a specific time, you're like, oh, okay, because they're both very like uh emotion forward.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Yeah. Yeah. Caether, I like because of uh their voice the guy's voice. I like the sort of bobcattiness of it. Oh. And OKGo, their arranging is beautiful. Damien's voice is great, their videos are fucking amazing. And A Million Ways is the first one I saw, and then they and then I saw the one with the the treadmills, which everybody that basically brought them into the eye of the world. But I love OKGo.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

So much.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

I'm sorry, I can't get Cedar out of my head.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

I can't get the idea.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

Yeah. Yeah. I remember the specifically that one, that song, Fake It. I was like in my friends'. Such a fucking hypocrite. Such a fucking hypocrite under Christmas like crayons. Um it just makes me think of that. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

Um, and I don't know where we are in the list, but just another day is another gorgeous, soaring. Oh, Danny Elfham's voice is just so good, especially in this version of this song. This is the first Oingo Boingo album I ever bought. Is this Boingo Alive double? I think it's got four CDs. So good.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

You know what's gonna hit when it's when there's multiple CDs in the back.

SPEAKER_00 40:55

You have to switch to it. It's like a compilation of all their really all their albums. It's just so good. I think they were on tour or something, but man is it good. And then we I think move into I don't know what part of my life this is, but more recent.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Uh, you know what? Uh I believe we have hit wait, yes. So with the oingo boingo song, that's the last song that you have in your middle adult joined army, divorced, moved to Europe.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

Oh wait, Glory B. I didn't cover Glory B. That Oingo Boingo song is the one with the lyrics. That I'm going to get tattooed on my body.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

Oh, what are they? Do you feel comfortable sharing that? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Where's the courage I once had? Where's the strength I once possessed to stand up tall and face the music laughing in the face of death? And that is when I really was getting deep into the I have a diagnosis of obsessive-compulsive disorder, and I'm afraid to leave the house. And I joined the army and traveled across the world, and I've jumped out of planes. How am I now afraid to it's gonna make me cry? How am I now afraid to go check the mail?

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

When I used to do these things, and I don't understand what happened to my brain, and I'm pissed off about it because I was fierce as fuck. And now I'm not, and it pisses me off.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

Um as soon as I heard those lyrics, I was like, I I know that this, I know what this is about. It is about my rage at my brain. Yeah. And when we talk about like mental health stuff, I think it's important to talk about, you know, obviously the visibility of it and all that, but like also the fact that you're fucking pissed. You are so fucking mad that a part of your body would betray you like this. Yeah, it's betrayal. And it and it comes up a lot in in music and lyrics, you know? So thank you for sharing that. God, it makes me so mad.

unknown 43:12

I know.

SPEAKER_01 43:13

I was a fucking badass, dude. You still are. I get to say that because I know you. Okay.

unknown 43:20

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

I've seen you go swimming in a freezing cold river with snapping turtles and snakes. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

I think that's just foolhardiness. What's the difference, truly? I don't know. Foresight. Yeah, let's wipe our eyes.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Uh it's moments like these, I'm glad I have tiny little teeny tiny eyes, nobody can see.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

And then we're moving out to one, I think is this is the now part, right? Mm-hmm.

unknown 43:59

Um

SPEAKER_00 44:00

The ribbon breaks. I was going through a depressive period and found the show The Magicians well after everyone else. And stupid story. My favorite character in The Magicians is Elliot, the TV show, not the book, which I have read since then, by the way. But Elliot is my favorite. And you know, I make jewelry and I send it to famous people, right? So I sent my jewelry to like some, like the Grammys or something, I don't know, where they have a like a table set up and movie stars come through and they get a bag of shit that we m give away. And in return we say, Hey, will you take a picture with this whatever is on our table? And he really liked the necklace that I had sent for that.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

I'm I'm looking I'm looking it up. You said it's Elliot?

SPEAKER_00 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

With one L.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

Hey, come on, why won't you tell me?

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Tell me who's in it. He really liked it. And so my the person who is who runs the event was like, hey, he really liked this. You should reach out to them. Here's their contact info. And I was like, I don't know who the fuck that is at the time. And I sort of half-acidly reached out, and now I'm sad that I didn't push it because I love that person and I fucked up my chance. Okay, Hail Appleman. Yes. I love it. Hail Appleman.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:42

Wow. So you're really pretty. Don't be a dumbass like your granddad.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Take advantage of crap. Dude, how how bad does that sting to like be like, eh, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

So bad. So bad.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Can we reach out again and just be like, listen? If I had the information I would.

unknown 46:01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 46:02

Somebody give us that information.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

I will I'll have to see if it's in my old emails. Uh anyway, that's the from that show. Uh I got this song, which is terrifying, which I did not realize how scary this song is until I saw it in that way. Sung like this. That song is horrifying. And my original memory of that song is.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Can you tell us what the song is?

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Oh yeah. It's uh one way or another. And the version I'm talking about is by Until the Ribbon Breaks. And the one that I remember is the who is the sloth? The girl who loves sloths, who was in that movie about a teen sleuth or the show about a teen sleuth. She's blonde and she's married to Dax Shepherd. Oh. I remember, but she sang it in that little sleuth teen sleuth mystery girl. Kristen Bell. Kristen Bell. That that show that she did, she did a version of that song. That's what I had in my head until this, and I was like, that's a dumb song. And then I was when I heard this, I was like, holy fuck.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

I like the the uh what is that? Is that a blondie original, I believe? Yeah, I think. Um, but it does. It's one of those songs that sounds so happy and poppy, and then you look at the words and you're like, hokay.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Yeah, like st some some some of some of Sting's songs, and Sting is another honorable mention of things that should be in there, but I didn't have room. Or the police, maybe. And then uh we come to really recent for me, Little Sims Point and Kill, which is actually I learned from Kat, uh, and she put it on a group playlist we had that we were making for to shake your ass for Jupiter and for like intention work. And that is a song that I listen to when I want something. Because they're basically saying, if I want it, I'm gonna take it. That's mine. There's not even a question.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

In listening through your playlist, I played this one probably three times in a row. I've never heard it before. Yeah, I I think you've told me before, like, hey, you need to listen to it. And I always am so bad about that kind of stuff. Watching any kind of recommendation, I'm just like, I have to be in the right mood. Yeah. But listening through it, I was like, oh, all right. Yeah. So yeah. This is my get what I want song. The video's fucking cool too. It's a little like title coming in.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

Um, and it's it's really fun to listen to. And I actually listened, didn't listen to the words initially. I was just listening to the music because I really like the music. And then the words were like, oh, that's important. Mm-hmm. And then Bayanna by Closey was uh Darlena introduced me to that. I love EDM, it turns out. I love it, and this is one of my favorite examples of that sort of music.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

I'm learning about you. I didn't know you loved the EDM.

SPEAKER_00 49:31

Uh I and I really love percussion heavy stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

And I love the jaw harp. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

It has a lot of instruments in this song. In this remix of it. It's just really good. It'll get you up and moving. It's one of my favorite shake your ass for Jupiter songs because you will get up and dance to this. Bounce by Solace is another honorable mention that used to be um when I did when I belly danced and my friends wanted to get me out on the floor dancing with them, they would have them put the song on because I always would get up to dance to it.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

And there's something interesting there because with no, I'm not trying to diagnose or be any type of way, but I know within certain uh neurodivergent communities, especially the ADHD uh group, yeah people out there, uh there is, I believe I had to I have to look it up, uh 154 BPM is apparently touted as music with that specific, and I see also later 160 to 180 BPM is said to like really just like reset and kind of occupy that racing mind. So, like for a lot of people who do kind of have like the everything going at once, you know, to kind of it's like that's the pace that is like that's interesting. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

I thought you were gonna talk about the percussion part because I think it's part of the autism, is why I really get into percussion. Because I love a rhythm.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Yeah. Yeah, a good yeah, yeah. I love a good rhythm. I can just listen to a drum, dude.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

You could just one note beat a drum and I'd be like, when they the drums at Anahana's Purpose, I just want to stand in the middle of it with my eyes closed and be battered. Bruised, yes. Um, and then Agnes Obell's Familiar, which her voice is so interesting in this. The tone is so interesting. And I found it when I was trying to get either immediately after or immediately before my hip replacement, my first hip replacement, and I was trying to either get back, get in shape to have the surgery or recover afterward. And I went back and it came on because I had it on, like, you know, just play whatever. And I rewound it several times and I finally added it to my playlist. It's just so good, and the tone is so strange, and I love it.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

It's very dreamy, very kind of dreamy, dreamlike.

SPEAKER_00 52:25

And the weird thing that they she did to the the second voice, which might actually be her voice. I don't know. It's just really cool and interesting. And System of a Down. I really, really, really Then we get into election time. System of a Down. They're political. I chose Chop Suey because that was the first song by them that I heard, and it's still my favorite. Uh and I love the harmonies. I love Serge's voice. I think he's a fascinating person. I love the way his voice and the other guy's voice, whose name I can't remember, the way they blend together. I love the music, and I've been listening to this and watching these videos by this person called the vocalist, and it's V-O-C-A-L-Y-S-T, and it's really cute little girl with curly hair. And she's explaining why she likes it, and it helps me understand why I like it. And it's the interesting transitions, it's the way his voice changes. It's it's just so interesting to listen to her explain why the music is good, and it helps me understand why I like that and why Ken was playing something, and I and I it was a chili pepper song, who also another one that didn't make my list, but is a huge part. Um there's some chili pepper song that had what I consider terrible transitions, and I was able to vote verbalize that because I listened to her talk about System Up and Down. But BYOB Brother is it. And I really tweaked out my um my for you, essentially, thing on Spotify when the election happened because I was listening to a lot of System of a Down and a lot of him as a soloist. Uh-huh. And so it got real gritty.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

This is neither here nor there, but lifetime mega crush down on search for me. Yes. Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 54:44

And then when my earliest what a cool person he is. Yeah. Yeah. Like, did you you watched the uh last meal, right?

SPEAKER_01 54:54

I didn't know. Sometime because sometimes those come on and I'm like not in the head space. Like, I sometimes I just put something on the second like background, and I'm like, yeah, whatever, I don't care about this that much. But that one I was like, I really want to get into it, and I forgot it existed, so I'm gonna watch it after this.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

It's so good. It's so good. I'm excited. Okay. I want to go on Last Meals. Me too, brother. And then we get to a band that Kat Heath, um, who is a witch who's been on my show. She's fascinating. Y'all should be following her. She has really, really good, insightful things to say about the current administration and what's going to happen and what has happened, and a lot of things that she was predicting back four or five years ago. They're here. So I pretty much look at her when I want to know what's going on. And because she comes from the UK, she has a different outlook on some of it. So it's not just the echo chamber that Facebook tends to give you. She is in a lot of different circles, and then we'll filter it down into manageable chunks. So highly recommend go sign up for her email thing on her website. S E O, the letters S-E-O Helune, S H E L R U N E, I believe is her website. You could probably link it. Yeah, look that up. She's super cool as a person, as a witch, hilarious. She can she called herself uh she introduced herself as well. I'm kind of a dirtbag, really. So she's great. I recommend. I don't even remember why that came up. Oh yeah, but it's because she recommended this band like three weeks ago. She was like, You got really into this song when it when you because I really loved Fat Boy Slim, still love Fat Boy Slim. And this I don't know who it is. They really sound a lot like they're very reminiscent of Fat Boy Slim. This song specifically, it is called I'm About to Lose It, But I'm Doing Fine. And the more I look at it, I think. Yeah, truly. I think it might be music that is supposed to be coming from the point of view of the cat. Based on other songs, like Needing Them Biscuits and I Just Need a Little Treat.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

Uh and I love the album art. It's very fun with the cat, and this is very vibrant, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

Yeah. Um and also, yes, mood. This is a very current relevant mood, the title, the song. Is it is the band is it frugit? Or fruit? I don't know. I say fruit because of the way I learned to uh uh how pronunciation works in English language, but it might not be, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 58:01

That felt like a direct attack on me. No, it's not Charlie. I say it the way it's fucking supposed to be said.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

Because I meant, well, I was emphasizing how I learned those things. And I know not everybody learned phonics and whatever else I learned that I don't understand. It was not aimed at you.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Sorry. Oh, if it was, that's fine. That was funny enough.

SPEAKER_00 58:28

Anyway, give that guy that give that song listen. It's a good song. It's bouncy, it's good for Thursdays. Finally, we get to Pussifer, and it is pronounced Pussifer. I've heard Maynard say it. So anyway.

SPEAKER_01 58:44

I thought it was Pissifer. Not P-I-S-S. That's not what I said.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

That's what I heard.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

That's not what I said. I meant the word that we don't say. Willow. Okay. By the way, uh, there's the silly herbal collection available on our website. We have cream. Silly botanicals. Silly botanicals. Uh Pussy Willow, don't say pussy, and Dead Nettle, who cares? Check it out. I love that someone bought the Pussy Willow shirt. The f dude, I want it. And also the sticker sheet is so good. Oh yeah, I mean sticker sheets. They three were they all three work together so well. It's just such a good thing. It's like the first one's like, huh, and the second one's like, okay, and the third one's like, I get it. It's a whole thing. All right. But pussifer? Pussifer.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Like uh like a wound produces pus. Anyway, uh Grand Canyon, and this was my second second introdu introduction to Maynard, the first being 46 and 2, but it was the version done by that like middle school band.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Do you remember that? Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:06

There was a version of 46 and 2 done by a middle middle school band and a little tiny girl belting out those lyrics. And it was and it was very funny, but also really good. That was when I first heard anything by Tool was that. Oh, wow. Huh.

unknown 1:00:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:28

And since then, I like Tool, I like Perfect Circle, I love Pussifer. But this song in particular, Grand Canyon, I remember that Ken said, Hey, you should listen to this. And I did that thing you just described where you're like, I'm not doing that right now. Don't tell me what to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:46

Put it on the back burner.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

I don't like things you like.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

Yeah, yeah. I have ODD. You can't tell me what to do.

unknown 1:00:52

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:53

Yeah. Um, and then I ended up listening to it. The video is beautiful, but the words, this is a song for witches by someone who may not call themselves a witch, but uh if you listen to it, it's a witch.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

I'm gonna look up the uh I'm gonna look up the lyrics. Oops, I changed the order of your playlist on accident. Okay, I fixed it. Oh, I fucked it up. Wait, okay, I fixed it. Uh I wanna I wanna look up I'm gonna look up some of the lyrics right after this ad gets done playing in my face.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:27

When I f it it got me through some fucked up feelings listening to this song because it really gave me a sense of I can't remember what it is, but it's like when you are tiny in the universe. What word is that?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Uh a child? A baby? Existing? No.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:48

Uh perspective. It gave me a sense of perspective.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Lost as I may be, oh in the fog of my own noise and triviality. Did I say that word right? Yes. Grand Holy Mother, grant me clarity for I am standing on the edge of forever. Forever. Yeah. Oh wow. Isn't it good? Blessed be this reawakening, Grand Holy Mother, into my deathly slumber, to stand fearless on the edge of forever.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

It's so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

I just watched you play it in your head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:28

And it's really beautiful, and that really led me into listening more to Pussifer. Like The Remedy, one of my favorites. Um, there's another one, I think it's called The Arsonist. Those two, I had to stop listening to them for a while because I would get really confrontational at work.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

I love that, dude. I love the music can do that. In a in a stark contrast, the only thing I was aware of from Hussifer uh was when Rustin got really into that song, My Country Boner.

unknown 1:03:03

I don't even remember that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

Is that the one where he's like, I got into a boner? It won't go down, it won't go down. Yeah, which of these songs are insane?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:14

And um the chick who played the blue woman in the X-Men movie. No, the other one.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:24

Which one? Uh Mystique, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

Yes. Two people played it, and I'm talking about the other one. Anyway. And I think she was also in the fifth element. Rebecca Romain? Oh nope, I'm wrong. It's the chick from the fifth element. I always think they're the same person. Uh they aren't, are they not? They look alike. Uh no, it's the chick from the fifth element, is who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

Melia j Beli Jobia. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

Yes. She does a song with them and it's really good too. So give Pussyfer a listen. I'll make a Pussifer playlist of my favorites.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

That's what I'm saying. Join us over on Patreon, by the way. We do post little playlists like this sometimes. So we'll we may we might throw one of those out there. We'll do an honorable mention playlist. Yeah.

unknown 1:04:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:20

But um excuse me. This song. I just think is where I am, sort of wrapped up all of the stuff before it. And that's that's it. That's who I am as a person, is this playlist. Very d distilled way down.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:43

Have you been, as I have been, listening to your playlist in full just sometimes I I've popped it on a few times just to play and just been like just kind of amazed that you can really wrap up or you can really uh yeah. What's the word I'm looking for? You can just signify times in your life like this, you know. And there there's even some songs on mine that I've listened to many, many times, but like listening through that lens of where you were, what you were doing, or who you were, can can change it. So thank you for sharing your life with us. Um we are gonna uh check check our YouTube channel because we will have a playlist. Uh I believe it's called Kim's Life Playlist. Perhaps. Yeah. Uh yeah, it'll be on our playlist. Check it out. And and you can listen to this uh in uh its entirety.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:44

And I'm not changing this one, but I will be making more because well, as we're talking, we're remembering things that we forgot or wanted to or find important, whatever. The honorable mention one is definitely happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

I wish I would have written down some because I I feel like I've already said and forgot some by this point.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Well, luckily, this is recorded.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

Luckily. Oh yeah, dog. Everybody go get your prints. Yes. How much longer? The prints will be out till the end of another till the end of the month, so another one, two weeks at this point. Uh we also have t-shirts and a tote and a magnet and a sticker. Keychains? Keychain.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

Two stickers, because we have two versions. Yeah. Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:39

I'm so nervous. Why? I'm gonna shit. I'm so nervous. How was it? You were nervous, and now that yours is done, how do you feel? Was it a scary?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:52

I feel real sweaty because it's close in here.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:55

It's small. Yeah.