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Hello, everybody and welcome to another episode of the project infinite podcast the podcast covering the infinite and ever expanding multiverse of venom for movies, comics, TV shows, video games. We've got you covered. I'm Rob I'm here as always record and cord, man, John Wick, John Wick. He's back. Bobby Agha, he's thinking he's back,
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he is back. Back in battering than ever.
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Who could have seen this coming this, this movie has turned into this this I know this franchise. I was just
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watching the first one last week and I was just like, it is night and day in between, you know, this idea of indie versus like big budget. Like it's just completely polar opposites but they're not though because it still has the same energy as this, you know, pretty cool action franchise. I've said it before here in my opinion, in Western culture, it's kind of we went through you know, it's your 80s 90s action so it's your you know, your 60s 70s action you know, your James Bonds, all those all those types, and then you got your Neo No, ours had a lot of have decent action in them. And then you get into the 80s 90s, especially the 90s are like big loud action, and then you get and then it was Jason Bourne and I feel like in America than America Jason Bourne action was like the standard like shakey cam, like you know, fast pace, you can't really see a lot but you know, something's going on. And then, you know, you got some pretty good action movies in between here and there from different directors, but then 2014 hits, and John Wick comes out and action feels like maybe we should do hand to hand maybe we should take you know notes from Eastern, you know, Hero Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. All those types of movies like maybe we should take some influence from there. And then you get the John Wick series. So some great stunt choreography. I know that John Wick creators stunt coordinators are like now they're like royalty in Hollywood like that. So you get in like in America if you need something that well done to you. So it's just cool to see where we've come in for movies in and no spoilers just yet, but possibly in terms of the act, not the movie itself. But the action in the movie, one of the best action movies, possibly ever, like the action inside of the movie?
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Yeah. And it's kind of crazy. Like, it's a very, it's kind of quietly made its way to like a fourth movie. Like typically when you get to like a fourth movie in a franchise people like, oh, this thing again. Yeah. But like John Wick four is coming on. People are like psyched about
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ready for it. I mean, the trailers did a good job of setting up kind of, you know, the story. It's nothing crazy. It's simple that the story is not the most important thing. I mean, it is, and it's cool. And I think, you know, galleries play stoicism, well, and that's what you probably want Keanu Reeves to do. You don't need them to do a lot of acting. You just need them to play stoic, and he owns it so incredibly well. And hats off to him for action. And I mean, you love you love action. You love the fact that what we can create with stunt stunt coordinators done actors, like, you know, on set teams, directors sentiments, I like what you're able to create and what the actors can put themselves through. And I know Keanu Reeves said, I think he did like 90% of the Act action. You can tell like, you know, when we talk about things paying off if you know I need to be because that's movie was pushed back if I'm not mistaken. I just love when you watch a movie. And you know, people were like, dedicated and this wasn't just something that was thrown to us. It was something that was worked on and people are proud of those are the best types of movies. And you can tell the action in this one was that and then some.
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Yeah, there's there's one thing in particular, and we'll talk about it more in depth. But it was something that you brought up in the Hammond quantum mania reveal our review, in the final confrontation between Kang and atman that I couldn't get out of my head while I was watching this movie. And we'll we'll talk about that when we talk about the movie. So yeah, this is in case you couldn't tell the first four minutes of this. This is going to be an episode about John Wick Chapter four. So we'll get to that and we'll talk you know, the reception, the numbers, non spoilers, spoilers, our thoughts and all that good stuff. But first, we do have some news starting with, unfortunately, some really, really awful news coming over the weekend. So Jonathan majors was arrested for a domestic assault situation. And the details are still kind of out there still kind of shaky at best. There was an incident involving a woman that involved assault, strangulation. He was jailed. And all that stuff is going to be pending. So obviously we don't want to speculate on the legal stuff. But I mean, just as two people that were ranting and raving about his talent, and the type of year that we felt he was due for I mean, All that stuff is secondary compared to this. I mean, if if, indeed what has come out is true. And I know a lot of people will have come out since and said like, this is some this is something that has kind of always been in him, which is extremely troubling. So I mean, if he's indeed this person, then I mean, he may be a great actor, but he deserves everything that that's coming to him. If that's the type of person he ends up being, it's simple
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as that. I mean, if that was maybe true, I mean, first and foremost, I'll do a woman's okay. That's the number one thing. Who cares about a cinematic universe? Who cares about anything like that these situations are serious, like, at the end of the day, that's the precedent is real life. That's the real life stuff that goes on. So like you said, I mean, you said it best if the, if it's true, and all these things have so happened to be true. Like, obviously, you don't want it to be true, because we were very fond of this guy, just like, you know, you watch, you know, interviews that he does, he seems like a very intelligent person very, you know, life centric person, somebody that was, you know, for all intents and purposes, like on the rise had a movie that could potentially have gotten could win an Oscar, depending on what the situation plays out for next year. So and this is all before all before he turns 35. So but if this situation is true side effects, then, you know, good actor but inexcusable behavior. Yes, usable, and then horrible behavior.
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Yeah. And I mean, the thing, the tricky the trickiest things of all, with domestic violence situations are I know, people have said that this woman is recounting her statements. I mean, that's all typical behavior in domestic violence cases where, you know, especially involving your romantic partner,
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romantic partner in a kind of celebrity as well, that can even double the situation,
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you know, they possibly converse, after the situation unfolds, he kind of that's all it's all part of domestic violence, manipulative behavior, where they convince you like, it'll never happen again, bah, bah, bah, bah, blah, blah. So her recounting, or whatever retracting, does not necessarily mean, this didn't take place, it just means, you know, it's two people that are dealing with a situation and, you know, hopefully, it again, it's not what it was reported to be, and things can just go on, but it's just impossible to say this point. It's just, I felt we should talk about it, because like, you know, we've been very high on him and very complimentary of him, and, you know, needs to be said that if he is guilty of these things, that he needs to be held accountable. And, and his career is far from the most important thing in this situation. So if, if this is ultimately his undoing, then he's got no one to blame but himself. And that's really it. I mean, we're not going to speculate on the on the Marvel stuff or anything like that just doesn't feel appropriate at this at this time. I mean, if if things happen, and Marvel makes a decision, or whoever makes a decision, we'll talk about it then. But for now, just nothing to speculate in that regard. But onto coincidentally enough, some some Marvel news. So I think this is something you and I both kind of predicted in terms of Captain America New World Order that Liv Tyler is indeed returning as that Yeah, yep.
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So there's, I got two pieces about this piece number one that I'm thinking about as cool. Get it cool.
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I think we both kind of thought this could potentially happen. I wonder
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if universals backing down a bit. But I mean, it's rights universal is much more lenient on the rights thing than Sony is, so they don't really have to worry about it. However, they do still own the rights. But my second point is that this is the one I'm extremely nervous about. So cool. If Tyler's
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back, then go ahead and get back to this conversation.
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Yeah. Is this a Captain America movie anymore? Or is this going to be a pseudo you know, Hulk movie trapped inside of Hulk story trapped inside of the cabin. Like this could be a pretty cool amalgamation story to get kind of you know, Mark rough a little ready for the event where universal reverse the writes back and then he gets his own solo projects, whatever that might be. I know the, the rumors that were floating around was that they were going to do a World War hold Disney plus, like, super high budget for four part series. Who knows if that's true or false? And who knows, besides the people up top? However, you know, you've I don't know a better way to say this than that. I feel for Anthony Mackie a bit in the way that like is yeah, we've had a conversation before everything about this movie that's come out has been like Hulk related the Hulk related Thunderbolts related, a Eternals related like, what's any of this got to do with I mean, the only thing I've just got to do and this and listen, the super cool situation could be like, if you inverse this, then it could be like, this is all happening so that Captain America can form a team to fight all of this, but again, maybe she could. And we're saying all this she might only be in this movie for like 10 minutes we don't know. And it can be just a small cameo just place your back in the universe, to have Mark Ruffalo. Maybe see her and be like, hey, Bruce, you look different. You look a little different, but nobody deal. But yeah, little little nervous for Anthony Mackie and kind of I don't know how that's going to be perceived because I feel like you know, the way fan theories run then, after this movie comes out, people might only talk about Hulk stuff. And we will see or X Men stuff. If this is if this could be Genosha in the future, laying the seeds for that. But on a positive note, glad Liv Tyler's back. She might be redshield we'll see it. Here I go. I just said it. And then here I go. On the same tangent.
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Yeah, yeah, I think you nailed both points on the head perfectly. Like, you know, it's, it's cool. You know, it's obviously speaks to the depth of the MCU. Or that they can, they can do something like this. Obviously, we just saw it with Natalie Portman, most recently in Thor love and thunder, where they kind of took her off ice, so to speak, and brought that character back. So that is cool. But yeah, I share your concerns. And, you know, it's the same question I had, you know, when the whole cast in America for thing was kind of starting and the plot started kind of coming out and all these different moving parts were involved. And the point I kept going back to is like, would they have done this to Chris Evans, like I mean, the the the first those first three cats in America, movies are so tight,
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and even the the Avengers 2.5 The third act of that movie divulged right back into a Captain America movie. And it showed how tightly woven that cast Steve Rogers and Tony Stark's destinies are to each other, even though you know, you might not believe it. But what did that revert right back to the idea of like, what the shield was in the, in the, you know, what's the word? Why can I think of the word of what can you think of the word? God? I'm Captain America's morality is morality between, like, amongst himself? Like, that's what that movie dealt with, when going back to all those things? Should you protect your friend? Or should we, you know, and that's a bigger theme that played into like, should we, you know, sign this record? Or should we just, you know, stay vigilant and be able to do things ourselves. And he took that decision, you know, upon himself. So
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we talked about it when we talked about the phase six and Phase Five rest of retrospective that we did that Sam should be further along at this point in terms of his character development, with as many things as as that character has been in and as long as he's been around, he should be further along. And I still don't feel like they're there yet. Yeah, and I'm not sure if this movie, which should be kind of the conduit for that. I'm not sure if it's gonna
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be that I was excited. Remember when I got announced I was excited because
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that right off the back of the day of the finale? Yeah.
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And I was just like, Oh, cool. So he's gonna get his own Falcon, which is pretty cool. He'll be Captain America. I think we talked about like, I thought he was gonna you know, he was going to form a team I thought that's what this movie was gonna be about. They'll give him a threat and he'll form you he'll former team. Maybe you do like a serpent society thing? I know. That was the original plan for Captain America three. So you do something like that. But what this movie seems more like now is like a what I think this movie could be too as He forms the that Avengers team that Avengers team a, either a isn't sanctioned or be fails, and then they send the Thunderbolts in. Because the Thunderbolt is the is the last movie of phase four, Phase Five, if I'm not mistaken. So I think that's what this movie could look like. There's just a lot of moving parts. The whole thing is huge. Because I don't know if she hoax in this movie, but I mean, Redhawks going to be in this movie, they're going to be hunting for Adam antium, which is awesome in all sorts of ways. But it just feels very, I mean, we could be running with this too far too. This could just be like, alright, well, General Ross, which is fine that he's in this movie. And then his daughters just said, this really? It could be simple as that. Yeah.
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And I mean, honestly, I'm at the point where, like, I don't want to see him fail in his first kind of, like, he's been Captain America for too long now and have not has not done anything. He's done that Disney Cruise thing? Yeah, I just don't want to see him. Cuz that's not a good introduction to like him being captain Americans. If he forms a new Avengers, and they and they screw up. Like, I don't want to see that. Like, backlash is gonna be Yeah, I want to see. I want to see him be triumphant. I want them to see take what the last half of the last episode of the dominant soldier did. And and, you know, broaden that, like, that's what I want to see from this movie. And just based on all the details, I'm not sure if that's what we're gonna get and it makes me really nervous. Moving on to some, some cooler news. So spoilers for the latest episode of the Mandalorian because we're going to talk about that. So Ahmed Best is back in the Star Wars universe. He appeared in in the flashback sequences in order of though we got again more of the order 66 When grow goo what how that all took place, and he was rescued by a Jedi and it was a kick ass dual wielding Jedi Master play by Ahmed Best obviously, for those of you who don't know, was the mocap, actor and voice actor for Jar Jar Binks in The Phantom Menace and subsequent sequels. And for those of you who don't know his Ori was really, really driven to a dark, dark place in his life because of the backlash that that character got. And you know, he talks about suicide and he was just in a really bad, really bad place. And you know, those prequel movies are right for that. Jake Lloyd is another good example, who's who kind of had his career derailed at such a young age? Because of the backlash that movie in the backlash of the Star Wars fans? I mean, we saw it most recently, probably Kelly, Marie Tran. Yeah, coming off of the sequel movies. And so it was cool that he was willing to come back and do something different. And be just that he got to do this, because I know a lot of people have called it like his redemption, but it's not. He's not redeeming himself for anything. He was the one that was done, done hard by by the fan base. So he's earned it if more than anything, he endured, and he he's come off the back of it. I know. He said, like, he would love to come back as this character and, and do more things. And I think maybe they should absolutely do that. If they want to do like a little mini series about this character, and let him just do some some Jedi adventures. I think that would be pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a great stylistic choice to make him have these these dual wielding lightsabers, and really give him kind of an identity even in such a such a short amount of screen time. Right. So I think you can definitely expand upon that character if you if you wanted to. Yeah,
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very triumphant. And it just, it's one of those situations where at the end of the day, it just makes you feel good. Like I was like an extremely feel good moment, because, you know, it takes so much in life to fight through that type of anguish and pain. And for him to kind of come out back on top and, you know, be that well received. When that happens. Like you're the person that saves like the most beloved character right now in Star Wars. It's got to make you feel good. So I'm glad he's back. And I'm glad he's feeling comfortable enough to not only act but be in the Star Wars universe. That's, that's all types of awesome.
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Yeah, it totally is super cool, observes, it was one of those things where, like, we talked about the, we've talked about the Mandalorian how they do those kind of nostalgia moments and those like surprises really great. And I think this is a perfect example of that. They took this actor who obviously, you know, maybe, you know, maybe even the casual Star Wars audience doesn't even know his his, his history with with the franchise, you know, but people like us, people, you know, that guards, the nerds. They know who he is, and probably probably, you know, got a great reaction when he showed up on screen and came across very heroically and, you know, just a very cool moment. Yeah, that I really, really appreciate it. And then what else did I have? Oh, um, so we got a trailer for Power Rangers once it always hitting Netflix on April 19. And
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I didn't we don't even need to say too much. It just, it's one of them. They hit you right in the fields that hit you right in the nostalgia, especially, you know, after the tragic passing of Jason David Frank, it was like, it felt good. Just seeing them all together again. I know that there's the Green Ranger, like was in bits of the trailer. I don't know if it's in flashback sequences. I'm assuming that's it. I don't know if he filmed for this movie. I believe he did. Okay, obviously, they're gonna I have no shadow doubt they're gonna pay massive amounts to him. Because I mean, for all intents and purposes, Jason David Frank kept Power Rangers like they're I don't think you get at like for America, I don't think you get out of season one. Or season three, maybe if Power Rangers without Jason David Frank being and then franchise like, he's one of the single most recognizable, like, protagonists in my opinion. And like, TV, kids TV, whatever you want to call it, like the Green Ranger is like a staple of the 90s and like, staple of like kids action to adjacent David Frank, you don't get that without him. Yeah.
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And they and they know the trailer had the look and feel on the Mighty Morphin Yup, TV show. Wasn't this big boom of CGI, like cinematography? Looks very much the main TV show. Very simple. And like you said, very, very good. Call
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back. And, you know, it felt it felt it felt right.
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Yeah. All right. So this I mean, the trailer to the movie seems to be particularly focused around Zack and Billy so I'm also a visual Jones and David Yost.
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I'm glad David Yost is back I never thought you would even so I wonder if that you know, might be reactionary or I think or maybe it's about time and it's like fitting that we talked about about um, invest in it's glad that these franchises are evolving behind the toxic beyond the toxicity that could have happened before and that we get to the modern age and they're comfortable and like that and that's the great thing about like, art and stuff like this, I mean, power and just art I guess, maybe you know, I mean, like entertainment media, like the one of the one of the good pieces of it is that you know, they live on for a while if it's good or if it It's memorable, it'll live on and, you know, it lives on with different fans. So different fans are in the hope of thinking about this or, you know, the younger people that like for the best situation like they weren't thinking about Jar Jar Binks when they watched the episode but it's good that he's back and had to face all that same thing for for David yo. So I'm glad that he's able to come back and I'm super glad he's able to go with his Oh, geez. And I hope this is you know, a great homage to Jason David Frank and just just a fun like, you know, for the 90s Babies like just a fun, great romp of Power Ranger greatness. Yeah. And
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also, yeah, repulses back. She's got a new body. Yeah, it's classic, kind of pout a little bit darker kind of undertones or because the whole conceit of the trailer is that Rita Repulsa has returned in a new body of Android looking body
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be called the machine empire. She said I need what are the monies you got? Yeah, she
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she she's doing the freezer from Dragonball Z. She's She's Mecca, Rita now. And her goal is to go back in time and kill the Power Rangers before they become Rangers. There's a kind of a illusion that she killed training. So obviously toits Trang passed away. Yeah. Tragically many many years ago so they're going with her daughter is in this Yeah. Trainees daughter obviously. And that's gonna be the whole the whole plot is the Rangers trying to stop Rita Repulsa. What else could you ask? And then the last bit of news that I didn't write down but I just remembered to talk about so there is a triple A gaming studio that has yet to be revealed that is developing a Ninja Turtles last Ronin video game in the style of god of war in the vein of god of war. For those of you who don't know that plotline of that of that book, I'm not going to spoil spoil it entirely but from the original creators of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Kevin Eastman, Peter Laird. And the basically the conceit is all the Ninja Turtles have been killed by a shredder except for one. And that one takes up the mantle of the last around and then goes on like a revenge tour. And it's a very heavy book. It's a very mature book. You know, people who enjoy the white light and fun Ninja Turtles. It's definitely a deviation from that. But when I first heard this, that they're developing a third person action game based on this, that got me super excited,
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especially after the last Rodin comic came out to like, this whole concept is just phenomenal for a game like a darker ninja turtle story. Spoiler alert for anybody that hasn't played that follicle that follows Michelangelo right that follows Mike, I love the fact that they chose to handle it, it makes the most sense that like the quote unquote most immature one out of all them is the one that is to superstitious that to like six or succeed all of them. It's just something that's poetic about that, in my opinion, that like he has to grow up essentially in that situation, too. So I think that'll play for a really good game again, hitting on that 90s nostalgia for all the all the 90s babies and just maybe putting together a really, really cool combative game for the Ninja Turtles. I think that's awesome. Michelangelo
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always known as the most physically gifted Yeah,
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young kid like he's the kid that's too young to know his own potential yet, and obviously in the last round, and he's put in a situation where he needs to realize its potential. So yeah, crap I had we have a new new piece of news. Oh, breaking news. Breaking news, Deadpool three, successions? Matthew McFadden has just joined Deadpool three and a mystery roll so who that could be?
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Classic Missy roll.
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Do you want me to do the thing where I give you it could be just military guy one or it could be a big character. You want me to do it? Yeah. So it could be military guy and the one or business guy one or I don't know why my brain wants to this. What if it's Mr. Sinister? Oh, that's that's your fate McFadden has that he's got that Mr. Sinister feel?
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wasn't someone cast in this movie A while ago, a woman that people would like maybe a Mrs. Sinister. I forget who it was. But yeah, that's, that's a good guess. I mean, with any of these things, like, who knows, anytime they cast someone. This is it's my favorite bit that Marvel does wonder like, we cast notable actors to be in a mystery role.
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And then they're in the movie for like, 10 minutes. And
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then the movie, like Bill Murray is probably the funniest example of that, right? Or one of the funniest examples. Sure. Yeah. Like Bill Murray is an admin and never was. Right. And he was nothing. He
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was nothing.
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It was nothing that movie. So yeah, you're right. Especially in Deadpool. Like, yeah, he can literally be a throwaway.
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Not only in Danville, but in the movie that's gonna bridge the fox universe in the Marvel Universe. Like, this guy can be anybody. He
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could be absolutely anybody. He can be a total throw away, but cool. I mean, you know, I think that movie is gonna be really, really fun.
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Oh, me too.
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Let's talk about John Wick. And
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let's talk about Jonathan. Let's talk about Bobby alga. Yeah, so
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John Wick Chapter Four. or we they got away. They did. They did a subtitle in one and then they're like we're done with sometimes Yeah, yep. So they did Parabellum. And then they're like, we're going back. We're going back to chapters chapter four, John Wick. And man, people are really loving this movie. Yeah,
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it's critically being received. Well,
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we finally got rid of the variance, covariance covariance critical critically. well received. Viewers are loving it. Not surprising. Yeah, this is, you know, it's counter reason and he has he has that thing where people are just like, I like seeing this guy
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things. And like I said about the stock I'll double down on it. That's where you want to leave. Keanu Reeves is Nexus is stoicism like leave him saying the little the smallest he can and let him just walk around and do that like that's it that's all you have to do. And they understand it so well. This this franchise is really like it's a vault it's evolved which is impressive to him. And like I said John Wick feels very small indie way action cool and then John Wick forest like top Bill budget actors throwing everywhere these top agent actors are coming in here with all their with all their experience to at least teams are being put together for all the action sequences. It's just It's awesome. It's a perfect amalgamation of action. And I know we want to talk about this movie, we might talk about you know, some action overall some of our favorite action movies stuff like that. So this plot will take us maybe five minutes to summarize and then we can maybe go through the categories
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before that I just want to talk about a little bit about the box office because it's a it's it's exactly what you want as a movie studio they're they're on the curve right and so the first one obviously lower budget but still made a decent amount of money
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that nobody knew what this was like nobody knew the potential this movie was
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going to be basically a straight to DVD movie The first one like it's kind of crazy and then you know that got good word of mouth. Second one got released, you know, made a little bit more money. Third one came out to a pretty substantial amount of fanfare you see the castle is kind of expand Ruby roses, and the third one so I mean, Halle Berry Halle Berry. Yeah. So now now, I would say like by the third one, you're in like, okay, we're in like a John Wick.
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It's like one of those things where it's like a non fandom movie. And people are like, oh, shoot, John. What's coming up? We
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gotta go see that. He's entered like the the pop culture kind of Zeitgeist. Like he's
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like one of them. Now. He's one of the most recognizable like movie secret agent assassins of all time now.
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Yeah. You know, and then this one, you know, like I said, right on that curve, van, had the biggest budget, but also have the biggest return. So it's making a ton of money and made almost $75 million over the opening weekend for comparison. Shazam did not make. So it's crushing it. I mean, this is exactly what you want. We talk all the time about these, these movie studios not understanding how to build a cinematic universe. These guys are doing it Yes, is exactly how you want to do it. Yep.
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And I want to, I want to bridge budget with ROI, your return on investment. And what you get out of your budget, is you get one of the like I said, The action in this movie, one of the greatest curated American action movies of all time, like, I don't like to say like action movies ever. Because if you go look in the east, you're talking like, from the inception of movies to now like just par for the course they are the gold. They're the platinum standard. But this movie holds up incredibly well. And it goes down to a couple factors. It goes down to your director, and then it goes down to your stunt team, your action coordinators, all that stuff. And then it goes down to your personnel, you know, in front of the camera. So this movie bought in Donnie Yen for for a major, major role. And he's just phenomenal. He's done the end. He's exactly like that's what I think will say about all say about him, he he's done en he's done en Hiroyuki Sanada like that, like, you're getting legends in this movie. And it just it shows too. We ready for spoilers?
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Um, yeah. I mean, let's just, you know, overarching, just thoughts. It's great. It's really great. It's, it's long, I mean, as long, it's almost three hours, but in my estimation, you didn't really feel it. I think they did a great job. Whereas I think Parabellum was a little relentless. With the action. I think this this did a good job of sectioning off, you know, it's big action sequences with like a little bit of a downturn and then crescendo back into a big action sequence. I think across a nearly three hour movie. I think this movie handled it really, really well. And that just goes back to what you said about the about the hands that are in this movie. I mean, Chad Stahelski, who, who directed this has has a background in stunt work, like that's how he got into the industry in the first place.
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So it's like the same concept of like having like, Neil Gaiman on the set of like, you know, helping them with Sandman. Like that's how I feel about that. Like, the guy that already knows the thing. Maybe he should help make the actual thing Does that make the most sense? So you could tell there's so much dedication to the craft from Keanu, from Donnie, from everybody around here, but I mean, behind the camera from their director to I mean, taking these choices, the movie looks good to like the movie itself. And a lot of times in action movies, it's just the action that's making the movie look good. The movie itself looks pretty, pretty good. There's a couple, you know, noticeable CGI backgrounds, but like the I think you only see it in like the first 15 in the last 30. But like that middle portion like they were on location or something or the the studio or the sex they were building, were just immaculate for that middle
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piece. And it just, again, to your point about the cast, you're getting these very physical actors in these roles when you're talking about calories. When you're talking about Donnie Yen when you're talking about here you he's Sanada when you're talking about Scott Atkins is in this movie who's who's more stunt actor than he is regular actor he so you're talking about Marcos a roar who's in this who's a martial artist and an actor. So that's what this movie is built for. It's built for, for actors who love to get their hands dirty love to be in on the action themselves, because the directing work and the camera work is very reliant on a minimal amount of cuts. Yeah, so you need to have the actors kind of doing their own stunts. And, you know, it's it's cool that, you know, this franchise has leaned into that, and is casting actors that are comfortable doing their own stunt work. And it pays off in a tremendous amount. So yeah, I mean, yeah, we can jump right, then we can talk about some, some spoilery bits. So I mean, the plot of this movie is pretty simple, John Wick is he's looking for a way out. So looking for a way out and takes
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place literally or three leaves off. You just hear the boom of the boom of the wood, and he's just punted. He's John looks into his punches in and then are you ready, John? Yeah. It's on his lawn after that movie. Yeah. And then you just see John in the desert on a horse and shooting a gun, like Big John Wick energy, kills all those guys on horseback, and then he gets to, he gets to the elder, a new elder, and the elders are so it's the same elder right.
Unknown Speaker 32:08
I think it's the same elder but a different actor.
Unknown Speaker 32:10
Right? Okay. Yeah. And he's just like, you know, John, you can't kill me. That's not gonna change anything. You die when you leave here. And then boo.
Unknown Speaker 32:20
Yep. Yeah, man. It's
Unknown Speaker 32:23
decent. What did you come here for John Keel you? And he does? He does? Because he doesn't because Because one thing about John Wick. He doesn't play these games. He doesn't have time.
Unknown Speaker 32:33
And then, you know, we cut to the continental famous cotton of New York. Once it's still kicking around. Yeah, but he's in trouble.
Unknown Speaker 32:40
He's a big duty. Yeah, he's
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in trouble because Bill Skarsgard is on the same bill. Skarsgard
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he's there. Pennywise says, Hey, bro, I'm the new I'm the new Mazda magistrate. So
Unknown Speaker 32:50
Mark even Sunday Grom all the power or the new marquee? Yeah, the new mark. He comes on the scene. And he's he's he could France would sendings like, you look at what you look, you've allowed to hit
Unknown Speaker 33:04
like you You broke our rule. So now you know what new management in town so you broke our rules. So I'm gonna break every rule now don't matter. You know what, actually, we're going to destroy your hotel because you allowed one of the rules the main the main rule of the assassins hotels, there's no there's no assassinations on on campus. And you look what you did you let John Wick kill heaps the guys here. And John Wick sell out, and then another boom, and then the whole hotel blows up. And I was like, Oh, wow, what a way to start for, like level the plague. Like set up your main villain of like, this guy might have just infinite non punch power, which is the that in my opinion. It's one of the best ways to go against like physical like, it's the Lex Luthor Superman thing. Like, if you can't hand a hand beat the guy you need to like be outsmart the guy or make it put him in a situation where his strength or his skill set will help anything.
Unknown Speaker 33:50
So I mean, the whole conceit of this movie is basically the marquis is trying to kill John Wick.
Unknown Speaker 33:54
Yep. And he any means necessary. That's like the whole the whole thing. It's like whatever he needs he gets. And that's pretty much it. And then John goes to he goes to Osaka, the Osaka hotel, and he's just like, come by here. Yeah. He said, Yes, yes. And his daughter, Akira, she's there and she basically plays the same role that the late Lance Reddick plays at his hotel and that's his daughter in the movie. And yeah, and then it's on and then it is on Yeah, he's just like all right, she's just like someone's a Bruin. All these guys in grace in silver suits are pulling up. I think something's wrong.
Unknown Speaker 34:28
Yeah. And Bill Skarsgard has hired Donnie Yen. Who has a history with John Wick. Yep.
Unknown Speaker 34:33
Everybody has a history. Everybody has a history. He's Bobby OG.
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And he's like, You like your daughter. Right? Like, yeah, and he's like, killed John Wick. And you and your daughter.
Unknown Speaker 34:41
I love the secrets too. Because he he's so he's blind in the movie. That's a big piece. They just, they just, they just watched Rogue One. And they were like,
Unknown Speaker 34:48
oh, typical Johnny yet and playing a blind, blind martial artists. So
Unknown Speaker 34:51
he's reading the he's reading the card he's doing. I mean, you know, he's putting his hand over the card. And then I love the movie when it does the editing where it puts the words on the screen and it's just he gets he doesn't even get full a through the J and wick and he's like
Unknown Speaker 35:09
but yeah he agrees reluctantly and they have a
Unknown Speaker 35:13
big reluctant antagonists turned protagonist story simple.
Unknown Speaker 35:17
All the meanwhile, we have a Shamir Anderson as a tracker. He's got a dog.
Unknown Speaker 35:22
Yeah, I think that guy's got a bright future and whatever he wants to do. He's he's pretty adaptive to the situation. I've seen him in something. I just can't put my finger on it right now. But we'll we'll look, as we classically do while we're while we're in here, too. But um, yeah, he's been he was. He's pretty cool in here. His role is what's his role? Let's see. Also reluctant antagonists are, but he's not reluctant. He's not really reluctant ulterior
Unknown Speaker 35:48
he's got he's got trying to get his foot in the door. With the like, late
Unknown Speaker 35:52
in franchise he's he's Rebecca Ferguson and Mission Impossible.
Unknown Speaker 35:57
Yeah, he wants to get in. He wants to get in the crew base wants to be in the assassin's club. Right. So he's, you know how it's typical.
Unknown Speaker 36:04
He's like, he's the guy that gets the spin off if something happens to John Wick in this movie, because
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the way to establish your assassin street cred than to
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track down John John Wick and be like a credible threat to John Wick
Unknown Speaker 36:15
originally not not killing me. He just wants to track him down. And be like, I found John Wick and then the mark. He is like, what have you killed John Wick? And he's like,
Unknown Speaker 36:25
yeah. Have you seen the heaps of guys that he killed? And in the mark, he puts a knife through his hand? Yeah. Oh, yeah. About the marquee. You don't play these games either. I love in this. See, that's the thing. Nobody plays these games in any of these movies. And especially this one. Nobody's got time for these games. Yeah. So
Unknown Speaker 36:41
we go back to Osaka and the mark, they
Unknown Speaker 36:45
go it's the beginning of the first action sequence of the movie, they do the thing again. Same. It's the same, like you know, like when you're setting the stage for something and then the thing happens, like you're like, you could feel it brewing. Yeah, I'm like, this is one of the best examples of feeling the action brew until it hits the point because like the guys are walking in the room.
Unknown Speaker 37:01
Well, this is why the beginning scene at the New York continental is so important. Because those guys roll in. It's a very similar scene unfold and you're like, Oh, they're about to do the same, like the same thing. And like,
Unknown Speaker 37:11
you know, what's even better, like the stakes are immediately put there too, because they destroyed the New York Continental. So once you get to the Osaka Continental, like this place can just blow in any moment too. So whatever they need to get them but
Unknown Speaker 37:22
unfortunately for them so now the sun has built different names. So is his daughter
Unknown Speaker 37:25
his daughter's issue. So yeah, they get their lights turn off, you're like, Oh, this is Oh, this is this is the John Wick franchise. And I love
Unknown Speaker 37:33
I love and this is we'll talk about obviously we're gonna talk about Chad Stahelski and goes to Tsushima at the end of this, but I love the idea that the Osaka continental guys are like old school samurai guys like they just use swords in both scenarios. Like
Unknown Speaker 37:48
the silver suit guys are just they all have guns and stuff and like bulletproof suits and then they come they pull up and they just like right above like on like the scaffolding above. They're just like, alright, well both train so you got to make a move. And then the first boat leaves I'm like, Oh, this this is cinema. This is just This is action cinema at its finest. And it's just on and then just one takes all over the place long fights like credible actually. It's just, it's already in a franchise that was incredible for attendance and action. And then it just just don't think quadruples down on it. And
Unknown Speaker 38:21
John likes fighting on the rooftop.
Unknown Speaker 38:22
You see John books up there. And then Yeah, him and his daughter. Yep. And then having a cure go down. And then it is on, on on. It's
Unknown Speaker 38:31
on. And then Donnie Yen shows up. I'm the one who knocks.
Unknown Speaker 38:35
He's got a hair, fresh haircut,
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fresh haircut, and just a great. What can you say a great Donnie in action? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 38:42
And the best part about Danielle, it's like, it's the nonchalant ness of the situation like that. He's just better than everybody else that looks.
Unknown Speaker 38:49
It's a great character establishment of like, Oh, this guy is Yeah, seriously.
Unknown Speaker 38:53
I mean, obviously, it was revolutionize way before Wes Anderson. But a great interview Wes Anderson talks about is like how you introduce a character and you give them something like you give them a physical something. So at least the audience can be like, alright, this person has a discernible thing that I will recognize them for. So obviously, it's beyond him being blind. It's just like, he's eating the soup. Like he's like drinking the broth from the soup like right before he's just like, can you pay attention man, and he's just like, Alright, and then he hits him with the eight piece punch and I'm like, oh, yeah, I mean,
Unknown Speaker 39:23
if anyone's ever seen the the Hitman film like this is straight old school Hitman Donnie Yen like they do he does the rapid fire punch deals like the Wing Chun random fire punch that that that you talked about? And it's that's what I love about it's my favorite thing about these movies. In particular this one like they they know what they're built upon. So like casting data Yeah, and like obviously we're going to do what you men sequence with Dinah Yeah, and like it pays it pays it backwards to all the things that came before it, which I really appreciate it
Unknown Speaker 39:56
and then here are Yuki Sanada obviously we're going to do some samurai see like obviously Things are going to happen. Exactly. That's exactly what we get. It's just such a homage in my opinion to just like I said earlier, just Eastern cinema and the eastern action and why it's so revolutionary and why it's like, so critical to the DNA of what makes movies to is, is you don't get a lot of action without Eastern cinema. So thank God you have these two titans in there, too. So let me get an old show. You're gonna be in the next one. Hopefully, I thought I as soon as I left, I was like, what if Michelle Yeoh plays a curious mother? That'd be all for it. Or it could be Donnie ends. Or Donnie ends? What's it called? Could be his wife to the daughter who knows
Unknown Speaker 40:36
as yet and then we get a an old school Samurai Showdown between between Danny and Kane.
Unknown Speaker 40:43
What happens first is okay, so he killed like fights Chidi or is it Chidi? Or what's the so the main silver the the number one to two to the marquee? It is Chiti Yeah. Which is he's great. Very, very just main, you know, main number one brute tight. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's like the NPC fighters and then like the main you know, the sub boss. Yeah, this is a boss in there. He's got hands. He's you could tell he's just some like, sort of like Spanish just like, brute killer. And then yeah, that's just on like their obviously their sequence goes on for a little longer. But yeah, John Wick learned the Black Widow leg wrap. And he,
Unknown Speaker 41:24
he goes set? Well, quite a bit.
Unknown Speaker 41:26
I'm not gonna be surprised that they make a John Wick video game.
Unknown Speaker 41:29
I think. Just one they were doing one. I just can't remember.
Unknown Speaker 41:33
That's like a button. I would spam although I would spam that a million times. Like they just spam that just hitting circle as much as he can.
Unknown Speaker 41:40
Yeah, so we get that we get the first confrontation between Kane and John Wick, which is great.
Unknown Speaker 41:46
It's like the sequences are just breathtaking. Like, like,
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in this weird assassination universe where there's a blind man who can kill people done yet unbelievably blonde.
Unknown Speaker 41:58
Yeah, like actually like, and I just it's subtlety. And this is good, good physical act like act like he's like stumbling around. Acting is not just dialogue, like acting is so much more than that. And like I, I use Michael B. Jordan a lot for this case of like, acting is not just line delivery actor. Acting is a physical thing, too. And it's also spatial awareness, too. So just this idea that like, I love how he puts the sensors around the doorbell. They just make a door to dollar alarm. And he's like, I love and then it's just the simplicity of like, somebody's hands on like something on a plate and then like he's feeling around to find it to
Unknown Speaker 42:30
like, when he gets in the gunfight with John. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 42:33
he doesn't even know that John's not dead. He goes, Are you dead? You're dead John, and he hears him like accidentally crack the guys Ah, shoot, and then the quickest. He misses like he misses. So here's a whip with that cane man.
Unknown Speaker 42:44
He's called cane for a reason. Well, I
Unknown Speaker 42:45
mean, it's also samurai swords.
Unknown Speaker 42:47
He's quick with that thing. Well, we don't see him revealed as a samurai sword. Right. But yeah, and then after that he fights Kyoji and then a classic again, got my ghost of Tsushima juices falling when he when they do the the showdown between Khilji and Kane. It's very, very sad. very tragic,
Unknown Speaker 43:06
man. It's so I love the the swiftness of what she kills him like, it's not some big like, stab in the heart. Music Chris Blaze. It's like, you're very subtle, like you're gone like this is this is this universe.
Unknown Speaker 43:20
And then you know, Akira, without saying so many words is like set up the sequel planning her revenge. Yeah, the sequel has been made for this. Yeah. And then the fallout of that is essentially John looks like Okay, that's it. Who do I have to kill, basically. So he, Woodson confronts Winston and when John looks like what's going on here, what is this? And he's like, John, you shook the legs of the table. Yeah. You should have known this was coming. John, you've done this. And John looks
Unknown Speaker 43:47
like whatever. I knew this was coming. Pete. Who do I have to kill what's and he's like, it's that you'd have to kill everybody. He's like, That's not the point. Yeah, he's just like, oh, it's almost like you have consequences for your actions. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 43:58
he's like, but now you know, Akira alludes to it. And now Winston's alluding to it. Like, you are screwing this up for everybody. By you just existing and John's like, Alright, who do I have to kill? He's like, Fine, you have to kill Bill Skarsgard. And he's like, I don't know who that is. Oh, wait, he's named as the marquee. The marquee you gotta kill the marquee.
Unknown Speaker 44:18
Love that. John. Just he does not care. What name what title? It doesn't not matter. Like, okay. He's like,
Unknown Speaker 44:24
Yeah, and then what's it like, even if you kill him, they're just going to replace the
Unknown Speaker 44:28
main themes of this. Like, can you really escape this if you want to, like there is no escape from like, the only escape is death. Like that's the that's what the thing does. Unless Unless there's a sacred rule. He opens the lower book. Yeah. You didn't take this movie and these movies had major lore. Now this there was minor lore in the lot. There's major lore and then he opens up the
Unknown Speaker 44:48
John Wick law book and he's like, it says here if you if you do a member of the table in an honorable thing, in a duel, old fashioned honor, do well. You can get whatever you want and That implies your freedom John you can you can do that and John's like but that's a myth that doesn't that's not real and he's like it is real and you have to be a member of family yeah
Unknown Speaker 45:10
you need to go you need to go reconcile but the Russians the Russians, you gotta go right which who are in Germany?
Unknown Speaker 45:16
Yeah. Or the Germans? I don't know. You Yeah. So side quests number two John looks gotta get sponsored
Unknown Speaker 45:25
brand deal. Meanwhile, basically and literally while the marquee
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enlists Mr. Nobody, he's like, you track John Wick before. Now I need you to kill John.
Unknown Speaker 45:34
And he's like not for free. But let me get some money in my bank account. How do you like this knife in your hand? Yeah. And he said, You know how I know what you're gonna do? Yeah, watch Yeah, either you're gonna pull the knife out of the table or you're gonna pull your hand out from the knife and then he said I'm about that life. See, nobody's playing nobody's messing around in this movie. Yeah, pulls his hand from the knife and a gruesome scene. And he's just like, alright, well, now you're gonna put more money in my account because you're messing with me
Unknown Speaker 45:59
and John like gets gets to the group and he's like, let me in your family and she's like, kill this other guy's kill Scott. I
Unknown Speaker 46:04
can kill cops kill Scott Adkins and I'll consider it so again. He's a scorer and by the by the spoiler alert that's NPC in this movie Klaus. He is Klaus. He is close.
Unknown Speaker 46:16
We get to a nightclub Yep. Scott Adkins is there unrecognizable to Scott Adkins
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and then who lo and behold, Donnie Yen shows up cool and then Mr. nobody shows up. Ah, all the little mister. Nobody's just like I got John Wick in my sights. He's like, well kill him. And he's just like, will raise my price now. Listen, nobody ever does. Yeah, he just wants to he just wants the price raise. So they all go away and all our characters meet. If you didn't think there was this is the most tense card action since Casino Royale.
Unknown Speaker 46:43
Scott Atkins is like, Well,
Unknown Speaker 46:46
don't do the accent though.
Unknown Speaker 46:50
You want to kill me? He wants to kill you. We all want to kill each other. This is quite the conundrum. You told me not to do the accent. Do the accent. Oh, things that don't do No,
Unknown Speaker 47:00
no. Do the accent. It's much funnier
Unknown Speaker 47:02
that he wants to kill you. You want to kill me? We all want to kill each other. Let's play cards.
Unknown Speaker 47:08
You didn't say that. But it would have been funnier if
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this is John mucks answer to the penguin. Yep. Exactly. So they play a card game and lo and behold Scott Atkins scumbag Scott Atkins has has has the game rigged. So unfold massive action sequence two, which goes on for
Unknown Speaker 47:27
a while. Yeah, these action sequences are our prologue to get our
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three main bow our protagonist and our to D'Artagnan, I guess. Team up reluctantly to get out of there. John Wick fight Scott Atkins
Unknown Speaker 47:42
chasing him through a nightclub again because we got to pay homage to the other movies so he's chased him to the nightclub John takes a beating Oh, my he gets thrown off the ledge and just gets up. And then yeah, and I love the part where like, they're just boxing and then like sky, he throws that three punch combo and I'm like, Are you character actor Scott Atkins? Combo we'll kick whoa, wait yeah, you're not the penguin since you're not the pseudonym for the penguin Wait a minute. Just hand in hand actually he's running away from him. And yeah, and then they get down to like the water sequence like are the waters fallen in the club? I love how nobody realizes that there's two there's a sack that's what the universe that's exactly what the you'll be aware of what your universe is. There's no cops around there's nothing around. There's just assassins running around everywhere. John Wick beats him to death. He drops them off a ledge and then he snaps his neck and I'm like this is this is cinema This is it.
Unknown Speaker 48:34
And he takes the little reward a little trophy the gold teeth out of his mouth. And then Mr. Nobodies London John what is old school Winchester Repeating Yeah, I love that everyone in this universe has a gimmick Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 48:45
they got a gimmick or a special weapon that they use. Remember the simplicity of it just being a sniper for willing to follow and now we're at the point where it's like just railguns and Dragon breaths fire guns like
Unknown Speaker 48:56
I turned into both Bucky and Sam from Captain America Civil War. What the hell is that and everyone's got a gimmick now. So that's yeah, because Mr. Nobody has his repeater rifle. He's got a dog. Dot Ian's got his cane and his blind thing going on. John looks got his pistols.
Unknown Speaker 49:12
I was gonna say John Wick has Winston but
Unknown Speaker 49:14
John Wick also has with Sybil. He has pistols. Yeah. So everyone's got a gimmick. It's pretty good. Then Donnie ends like don't kill John Wick. I killed John Wick. Mister nobody's like, alright,
Unknown Speaker 49:28
we're getting to the end of the second act and he goes back and they're just like, alright, well, now you got your crests. And now we're going to set up we're going to set up the thing. So when it's in the meets meets, Marquis De Marchi and the marquis just like I hate the old ways.
Unknown Speaker 49:41
Well, yeah, what's it goes down
Unknown Speaker 49:42
look, check the longest walk in cinematic history. Amazing.
Unknown Speaker 49:44
He challenges John or he challenges the marquee on John looks for half the mark. He's like, This is
Unknown Speaker 49:49
dumb. But I'll do it though.
Unknown Speaker 49:52
Old rules are dumb. Yeah, fancy brands. They're
Unknown Speaker 49:54
closely brown to this movie as like the adjudicator. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker 49:58
He's just there to explain. The watch You're essentially Yeah, he's like you got to follow the rules marquee
Unknown Speaker 50:03
that was a great that was a great impression on Tracy Brown.
Unknown Speaker 50:06
Those are the rules he says when sin goes he goes oh, so I'm you know in the mark he's like by the way if you do this you're John wicks second in this and whatever happens to the champion also happens to the second Watson's like,
Unknown Speaker 50:24
oh, yeah, but I except because John Wick has that dog he literally and metaphorically has that dog in him.
Unknown Speaker 50:29
And he's like, Yeah, John Wick wins. He gets his freedom he gets out of the life. And Mark he's like, What do you get out of it? He's like, you rebuild the continental in New York. You reinstate me as as the man in charge
Unknown Speaker 50:40
when you ask me what my favorite lore building moment that's by far it is that you can just ask for anything you could ask for anything. It's basically just a like a genie. Genie pot. The Mark
Unknown Speaker 50:49
he accepts accepts terms. And then we have a nice little meeting between John Wick and the Marquis. Yep. They flip cards to establish the rules of the door exactly. I don't understand how
Unknown Speaker 51:00
any of this work doesn't matter. So the rules are the the location the weapons like you both I guess the time from what I understand what I got out of the scene is you both negotiate
Unknown Speaker 51:13
right so you want Yep, and then you flip card and whoever has the higher number gets the fifth thing unless you both agree on a thing in which case there's no flipping of the card right?
Unknown Speaker 51:22
So it was sunrise right the marquee perfect sunrise and he got his John Wick picks funds not well he put Where's the place I forget what the place church yeah the church there is an actual name because it's real church but we forgot what it is French yeah it's it's French
Unknown Speaker 51:37
that Notre Dom No it is it is the other thing down the
Unknown Speaker 51:39
road. And then he's just I love the all that was my favorite part weapons gentleman. Blades. You will easy pistols like this. This is it.
Unknown Speaker 51:53
The card it's gone. Yep. And then that tricky. Marquis has one more trick up his sleeve. He does the Tyrion Lannister for Game of Thrones. He named the champion in his stead. Of course, stunning one
Unknown Speaker 52:05
John Wick couldn't pick Winston,
Unknown Speaker 52:07
why would you pick a blind man and the gun shooting contest? Also, like the bit where where the Clancy Brown was reading the terms of like, what everyone's agreeing to? And he reads what Winston won and John like was like, you son of
Unknown Speaker 52:22
a bitch. And what's it's like? Yeah, it is what it is while I'm here. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 52:29
John Wick, I gotta ask. I can't, I gotta ask for what I could ask
Unknown Speaker 52:33
for $1 billion, and you would have got it
Unknown Speaker 52:35
for me. And then it's, you know, it's kind of on it's John looks last night in Paris was really a
Unknown Speaker 52:40
metaphor. This sequence is in credit. So the desirable sequences are the Osaka hotel, and then it's the the nightclub. And then it's the, this is the final one. So three discernible sequences inside of this own
Unknown Speaker 52:56
secret. Were like 45 minutes into this. And we haven't mentioned the Bowery King Laurence Fishburne is back.
Unknown Speaker 53:01
Yeah, he is back. John Wick. He brings a different energy. So good.
Unknown Speaker 53:10
So he arrives in Paris and he's like, he's always got a quip. He's always like you always got to be dressed for your wedding. Well, your funeral funeral get some gives him some great excellent
Unknown Speaker 53:19
you just love to see him back because I talked about John Wick revolutionary revolutionising you know, the matrix was one of the May it was the major one for the 2000s So
Unknown Speaker 53:29
So he gives John a new suit. A new gun that he that he went into,
Unknown Speaker 53:33
oh my god credible detail. I got like, got like three minutes a dialogue is great.
Unknown Speaker 53:38
And then those pesky radio DJs are back. Mike is the mark title
Unknown Speaker 53:42
of this universe so frickin much. Because like, like I said, the first ones normal, like the first ones like a normal movie. And there's just like this radio tower station of like, all these women walking around and like this like, satire, like realm. And like they just they're like flipping radio stations that are just tuned to assassins. And they're just like, Well, John wicks on the board for now the price of the whole movie keep that was 14 million, and it's 20 million, then it's 25 million or 26 million, and then it's 40 million. And everybody's just like, I can use $40 million. So every assassin in Europe tries to go same thing as three but even worse this time. This is the marquis
Unknown Speaker 54:19
plan. Because the rule of the duel is if you don't show up at the time, that sunrise, you lose. Yep. So the marquee is like Well John Wick is not gonna even make it to the church doesn't matter, because watch this and so obviously the marquee kind of gives away the fact that John wicks in Paris and yeah, like you said it's on the radio DJs call up the assassin right yeah, love
Unknown Speaker 54:41
the way that this fight. This fight reminds me of Mission Impossible Fallout, the sequence where it was, you know, it started with remember when the cop pulls up and the cop looks and the cops and Henry Tablas like walk away and she calls it in and then the sequence that goes and like you know, saw the action see once and then it diverges more and it keeps it keeps diving and diving deeper. That's exactly what this fight does times a little bit because it just starts with the cars pull up. And it's just like he's walking in the street. And then guys just people just start standing up and then gunfire starts. And it's just like it's happening. And it's happening. And then they get to the famous circle. And France.
Unknown Speaker 55:19
Yeah, the art did. I can't remember the north of France, the roundabout late France. I just love how that whole sequence started. We're like, he's walking across the street. And then like he looks and he's like, Oh,
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cars is coming 80 miles per hour, he gets hit by like, I'm we're not even he gets hit by like 14 cars in the sequence. That like there's no joke, like, he gets Oh, he's getting hit by cars every other second. And like just gets up cheese that God shows up. Obviously, he's getting hit by cars. So that's, that's, like, I'm thinking about the sequences in the movie. And I'm like, this has to be the best sequence in the movie, right? And so this is part one of three in the sequence, right? Or in this prolonged penultimate sequence before the finale. So he's there and like, it just starts popping off. Everybody starts showing up. Mr. nobody shows up with the railgun he's there with the dog with the dog, the dog attacks people like he's got to just straight up attack dog. So yeah, it's going to be nervous for that dog. The dog is gonna get shot. So they're in the circle, it's popping off and boom, he's able to get out. That sequence is incredible. It's like I said, a lot of one takes in that sequence. Alright, cool. Cool. And then we get into possibly the hotel sequence the hotel sequence so he gets into this abandoned hotel, and then the camera just starts panning up and it pans up until it's a God's eye view. And then it's an unbroken shot of great Chekhov's Gun screenwriting make sure the thing pays off. So one of the assassins when the woman's over the radio saying go after John Wick. One of them's got Dragon's Breath in the shotgun shells. So he takes it and then it's he's just an overhead shot of him just clearing out the like, like, it's like a Wes Anderson action movie
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if you guys have ever seen the old school Grand Theft Auto game Oh, yeah. Yep. That they're all top down action. That's what this is shot and it's
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crazy. It's nuts. It's gorgeous. The way this look and
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like whether or not Winston Mr. Nobody's there. So like, just while John looks doing his bit, yeah, just see the dog flying like across the street him
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in the background of some killing some guys that are trying to get to him, and then they meet each other. They're fighting. So he's like, alright, well, the marquee and the marquee is on the phone this entire time. And he's just like, I love how he answers the phone. He's just what he's just like, you want to raise the price. And then he's just like, yeah, that's what I asked the first time. He's like, Alright, $40 million. And he's like, Oh, killed. Okay, I'll do it. God. And then that's on and then they go to, you know, they're fighting each other great fights. The fighting I can't say enough. Like it's dumb. How good they are. Yeah. So they get to fight each other. And John Wooden says John Wick system for dogs.
Unknown Speaker 58:02
So yeah. Big Bad henchmen guy. He's been at war with his dog for like the entire movie. So we've got the dog dead to rights. And I'm like, oh, no, they're gonna do John Wick one again. And then like you said, John Wick would rather die than let someone else kill the dog. So he he shoots chibi off off a balcony. And then that's when it finally clicks with Mr. Nobody. Like, he just saved my dog. Yeah. John was not a bad guy. I think I should help John. So yeah, and we get to the final the final leg of this, this marathon sprint. So he gets the the world's
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longest staircase. Yeah. To the church. 122 steps,
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the marquee is there, or not there. But he's at the church. He's waiting. Like, they're
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just sitting there. Like, this is just normal. People like dying, and everyone's just sitting there just drinking till like, everything's cool. The other mark,
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he's like, I don't know, Dominic might not make it. So he's battling up the stairs. And then he meets, you know, big bad henchmen guy. He's not dead yet. So John Wick meets him at the top of the stairs. And this guy knocks John Wick down the first set of like, 100 says, John Wick lands on the ground, and you're like, Oh, that hurt. And, and then he proceeds to kick John Wick down, like the second 100 bit,
Unknown Speaker 59:22
like we had in the theater was pretty sad. Like, it was relatively solid show out and like, we were nervous, because we were the only people in there. And then like, the second the movie time started, like 12 people locked in, they're like, good, good. Good on, you said. And then we're, when that sequence happened. Everybody's like,
Unknown Speaker 59:39
oh, and everyone started laughing. Because that had to have been played for laughs right? That had to have been a bit but like, I'll respect it in this movie. Because this. So it's like, I felt like I was watching like a Simpsons cartoon. This guy is just barreling down and it's they'd never cut away. He just he just goes down like 100 sets of stairs.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:06
So he gets to the bottom and then he looks up and Donnie ends like, I'll help you Come on brother. Yeah, they also had a really they also had a really good scene before this before this this whole before this whole acts are the whole before the whole third act like big time action sequences started where they all towards the table like you know I'm gonna have to kill you John but at least we can sit in this church and bury ourselves before we have to. We can mentally and metaphorically bury ourselves before we have to physically bury ourselves so,
Unknown Speaker 1:00:36
but then they they team up one last time side by side,
Unknown Speaker 1:00:39
Donnie ends the best. He's so good. He's Excellent. He does
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fully unleash this point because in the first in the Osaka sequence he's not really killing people. No, he's he's beating them to death or beating them. But now he's just full on so he's on she the samurai sword. And then yeah, they keep battling their way up the stairs. Mr. nobody shows up once again and close off the the conflict between dog and big henchmen guy. Because that was the true conflict of this movie.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:11
What do you ask me what my favorite line is just gonna be nuts.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:13
Nuts. Yep. So the dog he he you know, goes after the nuts. And then man mr. Nobody cold cold as hell. walks up puts the repeater up to my man's head things like you hit my puppy. Bang. Shoot some dog pees on him. Right. And then it's on? Yeah, cuz I love how John look is like, or daddy and goes. Well, time is the sunrise. John looks like
Unknown Speaker 1:01:40
about two three minutes. Danny has like Well, you better
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get a move on John Wick. He makes it they both make it into mark. He's like, Yeah, John Wick. I hate you so much. And Winston's like,
Unknown Speaker 1:01:53
yeah, what's in doesn't say any dialog, but he's just like looking around. He's like, oh,
Unknown Speaker 1:01:57
oh, man, thank God. And then Clancy Brown is like, Alright, good. Everyone's here. Let's have a duel. And then like, I don't know why. I didn't think it was gonna be old timey dueling pistols.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:08
Yeah, you thought it was gonna be like Viper pistols that John had? No, it's like revolvers from Red Dead Redemption to
Unknown Speaker 1:02:14
1770 like Aaron Burr style dueling pistols. Like Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton style dueling pistols. 30 paces, take it 30 paces, and then you
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know, 30 basis 30 paces, and then
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after the first person shoots and then 10 More paces forward until someone's died. That's how we do this.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:36
So first one, John Wooden John mix.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:39
They wing each other. Yep. Oh, all right. And then John looks with before that John looks like any advice. Because Mark, he's like, you know, he's like,
Unknown Speaker 1:02:47
their, their seconds go up to them and deliver them what they need. And then our van, it's the greatest thing because he's just like, the marquee goes to Donnie, and he's just like, Dr. F off. Yeah. And then. And then once it goes to Johnny, just like, any advice, I found out.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:10
Yeah, so they win each other. So 10 paces forward. They weigh each other again, and it's getting pretty brutal now. And then we're within the last 10 paces. So they're like, basically, like, you can't miss. They raised their fire, bang, John Wick goes down. You're like, oh, no, John Wick went down. And then the marquee because he can't help himself is like I want the final the final shot
Unknown Speaker 1:03:35
takes the gun right out of his hand, because there's no rules in this rule.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:39
Well, he's technically the true.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:41
He's like, I want to take my title back.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:43
Yeah. He says, I want the coup de gras, which is like the finishing the final blow. So and it says right, I guess as the technical challengers, like he can do that. And then that Winston's like, how you done goofed, son. And he's like, you'd never He never fired his gun. And then Keanu Reeves summons all of the acting and he goes, consequences. Bang, shoots
Unknown Speaker 1:04:05
build Skarsgard right. And the father lucky gives right before he gets marked as amazing, classic villain like, oh, no, come bang. I don't know why I thought about. I don't know why that bought me to. Why can I think of diehard the first one I just in my mind, I thought about that.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:21
A couple am goes the text on the screen with John like, she's Bill Skarsgard with the old timey dueling pistol. And that's it. He wraps them up, pack them up. And then John looks like Winston, I would like to go home. Like, I want to go on. Oh, John. Yeah, if you're going home, you're going home in a box. Yep. Looks good.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:42
Justin wants to know, I don't feel so good.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:44
John Wick sits down on the steps.
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beautiful sunrise.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:48
Yeah, it is. John Wick. He's just he's thinking of his wife. Because they have this. I guess I'm gonna step on what my favorite like moment is. And it's that moment where the Bowery King Winston and John Locke can talk about what they want on their tombstones. And the Bible came was like Long live the King Baby I'm Laurence Fishburne like, what's in a job like pulls out like these teaching things like because Woodson wanted, you know to remember lantronix character with his tombstone and then Laurence Fishburne is like long live the king and then John looks like loving husband loving
Unknown Speaker 1:05:24
husband. What if I die? I want loving husband
Unknown Speaker 1:05:30
written on mine. Lauren's best friends like Tom and you killed the mood John Wick. I was trying to be fun and magnanimous. And then yeah, so John likes remembering his his wife. And then he just kind of like he does like the baby. The baby on the steps. Yep. And then cut to cut to New York. Once and Laurence Fishburne of air look at over the loving husband. The grave of John and Helen wick.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:56
Yep, that's it.
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That's it. John Wick said John
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Wick died?
Unknown Speaker 1:06:00
Or did he? Or did this? Or did this movie make too much money? Exactly. And then, guess what we got for the first time ever?
Unknown Speaker 1:06:11
The post credit see as a post credit scene. And like I said, Well, if the Last of Us taught me anything, the games will if it isn't the consequences and consequences for my actions. So because a cure is such a mysterious, cool character, and is in her father's Mr. Sonata, than he been she of course will probably get to her versus Dotty and spin off which will be up Yeah, so Donnie Yen returns assume they're gonna team up right?
Unknown Speaker 1:06:36
Yeah, returns back to his daughter who is cared for this entire time.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:40
That story could be cool. Because he's got her own his own daughter that doesn't isn't in this life. But she is in this life. That would be kind of cool. She's playing
Unknown Speaker 1:06:47
the violin in the street. And then he's come to bring her flowers like we're free. And then a cure, runs up on him with a knife and then cut to black. And we don't know what happens. Did he kill her? Did she kill him? They shake hands. They have a frappuccino together. Who's to say who's this? We won't know. And that's it. That's John Wick Chapter Four. It was really really great. Yeah, it's a thrill ride. Man, it's a great modern action movie.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:15
Yeah, just it's it's again, one thing that I love about franchises one they don't get complacent but on the inverse they get you know, they double down and they become smarter they become more efficient on their action and they you know, get innovative with it too and Mission Impossible I've spoken in droves about how I think that in my opinion is still the best example but this might be tied with it now of like Fallout understood of the the sequel trilogy to the original trilogy permission possible being like with the crux being fall out being so incredible, like understanding we need to make sure this is because we're in a we're in a time where the there's other action movies that do not even have close to the same, you know, amount of good action in these movies, but are gonna beat us time in and time out. And now this is like a glimmer of hope of like, are we getting back? Like, are we getting back to the? I don't know, man. We're getting a Wes Anderson movie at Martin Scorsese movie. We just got you know an act. We're getting two major action movies that aren't Marvel DC or Star Wars cinema ceiling.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:18
Yeah, and I love I love how the people making these John Wick movies haven't gotten complacent.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:23
Not only have they not gotten complacent. They're also like I said earlier, they're like the people that you call now if you want modern action, they call them you know,
Unknown Speaker 1:08:31
they went to this and thought ask themselves how do we want up? Well, we didn't the last one. And I mean that top down action sequences in the hotel is a perfect example. Like, just you know, just constant one. upsmanship and now this childlike thing is in full force its own cinematic universe. We're getting a continental spin off that's coming to peacock in September with a
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ballerina right
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ballerina with and RMS yep,
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that's probably gonna go crazy. Yep.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:57
The Continental is going to be a prequel it's going to be set the 1970s revolving around Winston and Lance predicts characters that are going to be recast obviously both those characters will be recast as younger younger characters and then we're probably going to get a spin off
Unknown Speaker 1:09:13
what do you want to see play them I know who I would see play play young the lights right next character and that'd be Yaya Abdul Mateen would be would be awesome. I think he could physically like I love this idea that like it's like the old the old wise, like sage character, side character Alfred character in their past life being just absolute tanks of people and could kill anything that they want to do. So I think that would be cool. Young Ian McShane I don't know who would play him but
Unknown Speaker 1:09:45
he's someone that's that's British
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British boots but suave but very but like could play also physical. That's that would be that's gonna be an interesting move. Could Richard Madden do something like that? Oh, Oh, I feel like Richard Madden could do that.
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Andrew Garfield
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would be so cool.
Unknown Speaker 1:10:10
Yeah, so that's super cool. And then I mean, presumably, we're probably going to do something with Akira and Donnie Yen's character. And then who knows what the future holds for John Wick himself. I
Unknown Speaker 1:10:21
think this movie is gonna get a sequel. I think this movie did. I don't I think they didn't think it was going to do this. Well, like Yeah, like this movie is making money. There's people going to see it people are, like we said with creed three people are talking about the movie, like after the movie is out. Yeah, I just, it's good. It's nice. Like, obviously, we built this whole thing that we do upon these fandom movies. But it's so cool that like, these non fan, like just how it was before the MCU is here. Like, these movies are getting so much credibility and like, even like this era movies coming out, it's getting critically acclaimed right now. Like, it's just, it's awesome. This is where we're at. So
Unknown Speaker 1:10:59
let's give out some awards. I love this part. You so you started this?
Unknown Speaker 1:11:06
Alright, so I'll go what's your favorite set in this movie? I added a couple to accommodate for this movie set. I really love the Osaka car and I just that's tough. That's a tough one to be it's so tough. It's it's got levels it's got it's got levels to it. It's very I love when you're set feels like a character it's and it does a great job of that like it's a it's got a lot of building to do because we already are familiar with the continental to and then you know having your characters bounce up big it feels it feels the place feels these rooms it has like it has like a ambiance to it too. But just the the set design and this is just incredible.
Unknown Speaker 1:11:42
Yeah, I love the Osaka condo I love the nightclub. The nightclubs amazing. Germany. Yep. I love that. That was really great. The set design in this movie is really really incredible. Funniest moment. Oh, this movie is funny. It is funny but I mean I think
Unknown Speaker 1:12:01
it's the Donnie and sequence part of the Osaka part and I just think it's the it's just the fact that he's just sitting there drinking the bowl of soup and God just like hey, can you get the word man he's like all right. I just the doorbell thing is hilarious. So just Yeah, this guy is so he's putting sensory doorbells so like when people walked by it's just tore out and then he's just kills them immediately. It's great. It's
Unknown Speaker 1:12:26
for me it's it's dim falling down the stairs.
Unknown Speaker 1:12:28
Oh my god yeah. What a bit that's what they need to add to the Oscars best bit it's it's
Unknown Speaker 1:12:34
no no joke, like three minutes of him just massive set of stairs. I like to really like important part of the movie. It's like there's like 20 minutes left. And they spend like three minutes of it falling down. It's so good. You have here Bessie check performance
Unknown Speaker 1:12:57
321. Laurence Fishburne? Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:01
It's either him or her. It's Scott. eigenes.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:04
Yeah. Oh, Scott. Whoo. All right, so nonphysical easily Lauren's vision for physical at Scott axon. It was just operating a totally different frequency. It's what I wish Bill Murray was an admin. That's a great exactly what Laurence Fishburne was here he so like the Bowery efficiency is you know, like the player efficiency in the NBA. He had like a plus 30 like plus mind the
Unknown Speaker 1:13:27
Bowery King is so he's what I love him the most about this universe. Like he's so like, it's he's like a cartoon. He's like an animate character. He's like, so like, he's called the Bowery King. Like he's got this weird little like network of homeless people
Unknown Speaker 1:13:42
that are also assassins. You know what they say? US homeless people got to stick together. This guy's amazing. Yes, yeah. Lawrence Fishman. And then yeah, Scott
Unknown Speaker 1:13:54
Atkins is I just didn't expect him to be Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:58
What is a conundrum?
Unknown Speaker 1:14:01
We started running from him. I'm like, Oh, he's just gonna be like goofy running away fat guy.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:06
And then he throws it was when he was like that five punch combo he gave John Aqsa.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:11
Did you come up with that spin kick? Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:14:13
I was just like, Wait a minute. The Penguin could never Scott Atkins
Unknown Speaker 1:14:16
also the mouthless Deadpool from Wolverine Origins, which is pretty great. What else we got here we have oh, that's NPC three. You ready? The same one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because it's already at 321 Klaus. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:34
He says it twice. And that's it. That's his. That's his whole thing for the entire
Unknown Speaker 1:14:38
my runner up for that was the elder.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:40
Oh my God because he had big.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:42
Just quest.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:43
This is a video game. This unit. This movie is a video game. He's
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got his little setup in the desert. Yep. He's just sitting there and he's like, John Wick. I'm here to give you your mission. And John like just he goes for Grand Theft Auto just shoots the elder. Yep. He's like, what what am I just, we've just killed you. To the best exposition dump.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:03
Oh, I mean, same thing. You ready? 321 The Viper, Viper fish for it again just describes a gun in the most immaculate way. You could think again, they dedicate like three minutes and like explaining what the gun does. How many how many rounds that whole adaptive rounds that you can pick up in like ambidextrous grain production.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:24
What is the ambidextrous safety on each side? I've never wanted a gun. So I need this like and like gun can kill pIane guns gonna do the gun?
Unknown Speaker 1:15:36
Let's see, what else can we cover? I want to save I use this one I usually throw in the middle here, but I'm saving it to the end for this particular movie. Best source material callback,
Unknown Speaker 1:15:47
oh my god, you didn't think we were gonna find source material and John Wick. But once your universes get to this deep. It's the idea of like the duels just being able to be like, it's the I mean, it's obviously the table getting like the lore of the table getting deeper, but it's specifically the fact that like, there's no rules to the rules, like you're just picking whatever the heck they want.
Unknown Speaker 1:16:07
It's this Crusader esque nature to the table that I'm starting to get very interested in.
Unknown Speaker 1:16:12
I like I told you, here's my hope for the table, right? Because I think we're gonna get to John Wick five and I hope they like I hope that's it. I hope they make John Wick five and like this is it like it's the last one. I was telling you before we hopped on I hope the table is like just the most prolific of actors in Hollywood. I hope it's like Robert, I hope it's like Al Pacino, Denzel Washington. Tom Hanks is there. I don't know get frickin Francis Victoria like I hope it's just the craziest litany of like, 10 actors in there. They've like these all time, McKellen, Ian McKellen's, they're just like, absolutely nuts. Just actress sitting there.
Unknown Speaker 1:16:49
Yeah, I do enjoy this. Like, I don't know if, if you're familiar with the Assassin's Creed game, there's a very like Templar nature table, where like, they operate in the shadows, and they run everything. I mean, my favorite source material combat is just the DJ women. Just just be like, I love it killed John Wick for $40 million. And then like, 100 people just in the streets, tried to kill John Wick. I love this universe. It's so dumb, but it's awesome. Let's see best, your best one, v1.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:19
That's a great way to put this in there. What's yours You go first.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:23
I really like man, it's, it's actually pretty tough to pick one. I I think I liked the first Kane wick conference.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:34
It's great. It is really great. It's a perfect top off to the to John clearing out the room. And I love and again, the set to sign this, the set design is so incredible in here, where it's like, it's it's aware of what happened before. Like, there's stuff shattered everywhere, where this is
Unknown Speaker 1:17:49
what I was talking to you about before when when I was thinking about what you said about the final fight and and men not being aware of the space in which the fights taking place. This is the fight so that made me realize, like, understand, like your point, like is this fight like they understood the space, you know, they they it doesn't feel inconsistent, feel incoherent
Unknown Speaker 1:18:10
this fight gave me a lot of the same feel. I mean, obviously, I'm pulling one of the greatest action fights of all time, but this fight gave me a lot from the mercy and an answer the dragging it down and gave me that same feeling of like, the spatial I mean, that is the it's the pinnacle of spatial awareness and that fight in the end the innovative way you can use that spatial awareness but yeah, that the the fight and this is this, like they're clearing up the room both on both ends, like Dinis and they're doing this thing and then Johnson they're doing this thing, and then you get to the two of them fighting there's destruction all around them too. But again, just it's a little piece of like, you're dead, John, like, you know what I mean? Like just understanding that then I mean, again, we're talking about two different universes and we're ones priority lays and where another one way so yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:18:55
but that that one stands out to me. And it's also cool because like, I feel like the whole conceit of this movie was built around like Oh, Donegan is gonna fight John Wick. They do it in the first act, and you're like, oh, here we go. It's on like we're doing this now. So I thought that was very cool. Let's see what else we got here. Favorite line?
Unknown Speaker 1:19:16
This is tough. There's been some bars you know what the, you know what the lines in this movie reminded me of. It's like when somebody can't develop the entire dialogue at once. So like they just in their phone in the moment when they think about a cool line to put in a movie. They just wrote it down. That's the entirety of this movie. I think my favorite line is when he talks about like, Oh, what is what is Donnie Yen say to him at the end of the movie? He says something about like, a dead man's always like a dead man's like, it's a roundabout like a dead man's like, Purgatory is like life and a person that wants to lose purgatory his death. I thought that line was hard. I need a gun. I need a gun. You're ready, John.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:04
I like I like the little dialogue exchange that him and Daniela have in the church. When he goes you saying your goodbyes and John Wick saying hello. And then Kane goes, Do you think your wife could hear you? And John Wick goes? No. Why bother? And then John Wick goes, maybe I'm wrong. And I was like, damn. Like, there's some.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:23
There was some there was like two moments in this movie of some depth.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:27
Yeah, so that was good. I just like the Bowery King being like, no one not even you can kill everyone. And I'm like, have you seen the movies? He can kill everyone actually. Your favorite shot?
Unknown Speaker 1:20:44
It should be the shot of John with the with the tree like when they're at the Osaka hotel that shot there's there's a litany of this movies actually shot particularly well and in terms of because I feel like the first two were still had that little bit of that indie feel to it. Then the third one you know, you get higher budget but like this one felt like some like some cinema was being had at some points. I was like, Oh, okay. It could be in the could be in that Germany sequence in the nightclub there was a lot of great silhouetting done in there. I just for nostalgic purposes, I have to do the fact that they call back to the call back to the original matrix when he's walking into the into the jail to the hotel and they do the they do when he stops his car in the beginning of the first matrix with the rain coming down. I couldn't not do that. Yeah, I like
Unknown Speaker 1:21:31
the I like the that ending shot of him.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:35
Oh, there's a really good shot where he's walking down the stairs where he where he's coming into. When he I think this is when he first arrives in Germany. It's like he's silhouetted in the smokes coming out and he's walking down the stairs. I'm like, people put some time into sentimentality.
Unknown Speaker 1:21:50
Like the final shot of him on the stairs, sudden at the sunrise, but I will say probably my favorite shot just like that got me amped was the side but him and daddy and side by
Unknown Speaker 1:22:01
the stairs kind of putting them splitting that was like in my head I was just like, it's like one of the staple action action actors of the West and one of the civil action actors on the East I was like this is everything I've ever needed in my life is so freaking cool. There's also a really good shot of I mean the we talked like shots are sometimes frames like shots are continuous. So the shot going into the devil's breath sequence which is probably spoiling something for us but it's just the one that camera starts tilting up until the up and I'm like it's got to stop shortly right and then it gets up and I'm like what are we about to do and then it got
Unknown Speaker 1:22:40
your favorite moment or scene
Unknown Speaker 1:22:42
come on man it shouldn't be this but i Is it the card game into the card game into the very good the card game straight into the into the the Germany nightclub sequences of Immaculate because you're tense from the from the card game and then it's just on like you're just it's also Scott Atkins blind delivery to like, it's great. And then it's just but man I who this is this is like the worst movie to have to do this to me too. So I will say probably what's my favorite moment in this movie man? So I guess let's do this because we're gonna do action sequence let's just do maybe a non action part of the same we actually do like the sequence where John meets Winston after they bury Lance radix character I do. I do like that sequence. I just liked the way it's shot. I think that's pretty nice, too.
Unknown Speaker 1:23:38
I like the IBM I talked about earlier. I like the boat on the boat. And I'm talking about what they want written on their tombstone. Because I'm like, oh, oh, look at this movie doing doing a thing like an emotional thing right? That's not a dog being Bernard right? This is nice. I just I just love like neither Woodson nor the Bowery king like expect John to like say anything. And then he goes, loving husband and they're like, oh,
Unknown Speaker 1:24:06
Baba Yaga does have a soul.
Unknown Speaker 1:24:09
So that's pretty good. And I'm saving it to the end. So I'm gonna do favorite, favorite, favorite performance now?
Unknown Speaker 1:24:18
Is it I was gonna overcomplicate this but it's it's Kane. It's Kane. Yeah. Physical acting, actual acting like he's got everything under control. I mean, one of the pinnacles of it's one of the godfathers of
Unknown Speaker 1:24:32
mine too, to be honest with you. Calories is great. In machines, I feel like does the most the lifting character that he's done in this entire franchise? Bill Skarsgard is a great classy round. Clint is great. And the adjudicator guy who's just like, explaining the rules, but yeah, I think I agree with you. I think it's it's done yet and he's, he's great.
Unknown Speaker 1:24:55
Yeah. What In addition, I mean, both, you know, outside and inside them. Wouldn't want an addition to this, and I
Unknown Speaker 1:25:01
thought it could have been a one off. Like I thought they were just like, Oh, Johnny ends in this one. You know what I mean? But
Unknown Speaker 1:25:05
it killed him earlier in the movie. But he's like an actual character. And I thought they were gonna like
Unknown Speaker 1:25:09
fast him here. He said, we're like, Alright, here's the big antagonist. Is this a list actor? They get rid of him at the end of the movie or whatever, but he's gonna stick around. favorite character?
Unknown Speaker 1:25:20
Oh, that actually man? Oh, no, it's John Wick. Just the dedication that Keanu Reeves has to this is just a mistakable an amazing,
Unknown Speaker 1:25:31
iconic character that's become iconic over the last
Unknown Speaker 1:25:35
shoot. Like you would think that you would think that, you know, this first character, Neo from the Matrix would just be the I mean, obviously it defines his career. One of the most recognizable actually, I don't like now, exact like, this is what kind of what has defined. How do you have to have the biggest action characters? Yeah, I
Unknown Speaker 1:25:54
don't know now, especially like, you know, those matrix movies came out so long ago. resurrections we've talked about in those podcasts. I feel like a lot of people nowadays will associate him with John Wick El Nino, because for those people who probably who may not have been around, or were way younger, when the matrix movies came out, they probably saw matrix resurrections. And we're like, oh, I don't see it. I don't see the hype. But then they see him as John Linka. They're like, yeah, so I don't know now, I think maybe John Wooden might be. It's weird, right? Like, this doesn't usually happen with actors were like, they've may have stumbled upon something that eclipses their defining role, right? Like, it's, it just doesn't happen, really. But it's could be happening to Keanu Reeves. And then, because obviously, this is a John Wick movie. I saved Beck's best action sequence for last. Because, you know, in all the other movies we talked about, we like to talk about characters or performances last, but this is John like movie. So we're obviously gonna talk about action last. So yeah, that's action sequence or favorite action sequence, I should say.
Unknown Speaker 1:27:00
Why? Well, I think this is the most difficult one we've ever had to do. Man, it's that Osaka sequences just near perfect in terms of of action, it's pull every action sequences. So prolonged for the better, because it's like, you're getting so much of a good thing. And it's like, sometimes like you want to end it, but like, Oh, we're getting more and then we're getting more. I'm pretty sure. It's a tie for me between the staircase sequence and the Osaka sequence because both of those, I guess it's a one a one b access one, one C would be the staircase, one B would be the Osaka sequence and then the best one on this movie is that Dragon's Breath, that's going to people are going to start using that ever, I guarantee you Hollywood's gonna start stealing that for
Unknown Speaker 1:27:47
those things. And it's one of those things that like, you could tell it when you were seeing it that it's going to become a staple. Like people are going to try to replicate that that hotel abandoned hotel sequence. Because that's mine. It's it's absolutely flooring that like, it just goes top
Unknown Speaker 1:28:02
down, right? Like I said, like the camera started tilting and tilting and like the camerawork just itself is incredible in this movie. And, you know, the use of movement and not breaking your camera or breaking the shot to get movement. But when the camera starts lifting and lifting, I'm like, oh,
Unknown Speaker 1:28:18
in the fact that you can follow what's happening despite the angle. Like despite the fact that it's top down and you could still like, you can still see like what John's doing, you can still see what Mr. Nobody is doing, you can still see what the dog is doing. Like you can see what and it's long it is this long sequence of this
Unknown Speaker 1:28:37
is one of the best parts about this movie is because the sequences aren't just like, you know, a tease like everything is full blown. And then so they take the
Unknown Speaker 1:28:45
roof off, basically of the of the, of the place and just let you see all the rooms like no joke, like you're watching and feeling like you're watching the Sims. Like you're just seeing these characters moving about the room in a very real way. And like, you see, nothing's hard to read. But you can see everything that's happening. It's It's amazing. And then the fire just yeah, the Dragon's Breath is I love that that touch of making the dragon's breath like the weapon of choice using
Unknown Speaker 1:29:13
a light from the frog to light some of the parts of it using the dragons rather than
Unknown Speaker 1:29:17
the double taps one of the guys with it. Boom, he doesn't really light on fire. Then he gets up again. It's insane. Yeah, so that's John Wick Chapter Four. Man really, really great. Yeah, I really enjoy
Unknown Speaker 1:29:30
one of those cinematic experiences. I love those like a like an experiences that doesn't feel cheap. This movie doesn't feel like feels like and it's like, just it's this. This one I think is maybe going to do the same thing that the first one did in terms of like the team that was on it that like everybody's like, Okay, well now we know what the standard is. And yeah, this is this is what in western hand to hand action should look like and then
Unknown Speaker 1:29:51
I guess we can't really get out of here without talking about Chad Stahelski his next big project on which I am now just infinitely more excited for and that is the live action adaptation film of ghosts of Tsushima