<b>[Music]</b><b>Welcome back. Here we are at Dr.</b><b>Pepper, really. We have Susie with us</b><b>again who is on her</b><b>osempic journey and she has told me</b><b>that she's doing well. So Susie, why</b><b>don't you fill us in?</b><b>How are things going? I'd be glad to</b><b>fill you in Dr. Pepper.</b><b>Nice to see you again.</b><b>Things are going very well. When I</b><b>last spoke with you, I had been on</b><b>week three of taking the</b><b>osempic, still at a subtherapeutic</b><b>dose. In other words, taking it but</b><b>not enough to really have</b><b>effects. At the suggestion of my</b><b>doctor, I increased it to 0.5</b><b>milligrams after week four.</b><b>And that's when things really started</b><b>to happen. I am now 14 weeks into</b><b>this, so time goes by</b><b>quickly. And I'm still taking the</b><b>plain five milligrams. Right from the</b><b>beginning, I really</b><b>did not have a problem doing the</b><b>injection. I mentioned last time the</b><b>needle is super tiny.</b><b>Even though I'm a nurse practitioner,</b><b>I don't love injections.</b><b>Never like giving them,</b><b>never like getting them. This is</b><b>really nothing and takes about a</b><b>second to do. Very clear,</b><b>very easy. It's an actual, it looks</b><b>like a pen and you dial up your dose</b><b>and inject it. It takes</b><b>literally a couple of seconds. So</b><b>that part's been great. What's really</b><b>been good is I've been</b><b>feeling very, very well. I know there</b><b>are concerns about</b><b>side effects with osempic,</b><b>including GI things like nausea,</b><b>diarrhea, constipation. And really,</b><b>I've not experienced</b><b>that. I did have one day when out of</b><b>the blue, I had really, really</b><b>intense heartburn and very</b><b>uncomfortable to the point where I</b><b>felt like almost like I had to lay</b><b>down, which is not the</b><b>right thing to do for heartburn</b><b>anyway. But I felt really</b><b>uncomfortable. That</b><b>lasted through the</b><b>evening, through the night, through</b><b>part of the next day. I took a little</b><b>pepcid to help calm it</b><b>down. It went away and it has not</b><b>come back since. So has that kind of</b><b>symptom happened to you</b><b>before where you've had such bad</b><b>heartburn? I mean, are you sensitive</b><b>to coffee or something?</b><b>Actually, yes. In the past it has. I</b><b>take medicine on a</b><b>regular basis for heartburn.</b><b>So it had happened in the past, but</b><b>this was unusual in terms of the</b><b>expense of it and the</b><b>duration of it. Okay. But you said</b><b>that hasn't come back again. You're</b><b>pretty good with that.</b><b>How about things like craving? Do you</b><b>have that? That's been so interesting</b><b>because as I talked</b><b>about in the first one, the first</b><b>time we met, I love food. I love to</b><b>eat. I look forward to</b><b>going out. I look forward to having</b><b>dinner with friends. I've still had</b><b>the feeling of, oh boy,</b><b>I can't wait to eat something, but</b><b>not in so much in the craving way.</b><b>That's been a really</b><b>big noticeable change. So I'll still</b><b>look forward. I think last time I</b><b>talked about having a muffin</b><b>when having coffee with a friend,</b><b>I'll still think this is great. I'm</b><b>going to have coffee in a</b><b>muffin. I'll look forward to it. I'll</b><b>order the muffin. But what I find is</b><b>I eat like a third of</b><b>the muffin and I'm full and I take</b><b>the rest home and I have it for the</b><b>next day. That's a big</b><b>difference as opposed to sitting down</b><b>and saying, here it is. I'm just</b><b>going to eat the whole thing.</b><b>I'm kind of glad about that because I</b><b>did not want to lose sort of the</b><b>pleasure I get from eating</b><b>and food and all the socialization</b><b>with that. Right. Have</b><b>you noticed any change in</b><b>like change in your body shape?</b><b>People talk about their</b><b>face getting thinner or</b><b>they're losing tone in</b><b>their arms or things like that.</b><b>Yes, actually. Probably because I see</b><b>myself every day. I don't notice it</b><b>as much. A few people have</b><b>commented to me that I do seem a</b><b>little thinner. I can tell you I</b><b>weigh myself every week and since</b><b>starting this journey 14 weeks ago,</b><b>I've lost 14 pounds.</b><b>Terrific. And do you overall,</b><b>do you notice how you feel like your</b><b>energy or anything?</b><b>I do. I feel a little more energetic.</b><b>And as you know, it's very</b><b>reinforcing. So if you get on the</b><b>scale Friday morning before doing the</b><b>ozepic, which is my routine, and I</b><b>see, oh, I lost half a pound,</b><b>three quarters of a pound, a pound.</b><b>It's very motivating to want to keep</b><b>doing and doing the</b><b>things that may be working. I'm also</b><b>trying to eat a little bit healthier.</b><b>Sure. Shopping the</b><b>perimeter, like you said, I'm getting</b><b>to know the parameters, we're getting</b><b>to know each other more.</b><b>And, you know, seriously, what I'm</b><b>doing is if I'm in the</b><b>supermarket, I'm not getting</b><b>two kinds of cookies, maybe I'll get</b><b>one and I'll notice I haven't even</b><b>eaten them or I've had one</b><b>and that's more than enough. Really,</b><b>really amazing, huh?</b><b>Okay. And you saw your doctor</b><b>recently so far. And what I did, I</b><b>had my follow up with</b><b>my doctor several times.</b><b>I did and it was a virtual</b><b>appointment. What I did is I went to</b><b>have lab work done</b><b>about five days before the</b><b>appointment. And there was</b><b>improvement. My</b><b>concern was the biggest</b><b>concern was my A1C, which measures</b><b>how your diabetes is going.</b><b>And mine was on the higher</b><b>side. And it now went down. It went</b><b>down to just above normal range</b><b>according to the lab that we're</b><b>using right now. And when I spoke to</b><b>the doctor, she said, I'm not in the</b><b>range of diabetes anymore,</b><b>which was really good. I was just on</b><b>the very edge of that diagnosis. And</b><b>that's what really</b><b>propelled me to think I can't do</b><b>this. I need to make</b><b>changes. That went down.</b><b>Can I interrupt you? But not a lot.</b><b>How many points or half a point? How</b><b>much did it come down?</b><b>Do you know? Did it come down a half?</b><b>I'm trying to think</b><b>about it. I think I went.</b><b>No, it went more than half a point,</b><b>about three quarters of a point.</b><b>Great. And that's a very short period</b><b>of time. So what's your plan?</b><b>What's the next step? My plan is</b><b>that, and I discussed this with the</b><b>doctor, because I think</b><b>it's really important to know that</b><b>this is a medical</b><b>situation. This is not, kind of,</b><b>because everyone talks about ozemphic</b><b>as being almost so trendy. I don't</b><b>see it as trendy for</b><b>me. I see it as something I want to</b><b>be healthy. And so I do things that</b><b>my doctor recommends.</b><b>If I have questions, I'll ask the</b><b>doctor about it. And my choice is to</b><b>continue with what I'm</b><b>doing right now. She said it would be</b><b>fine to increase it if I wanted to,</b><b>but it was also fine</b><b>to keep going at the dose that I'm</b><b>on. And my feeling is if I'm not</b><b>having side effects,</b><b>I am losing weight. The cravings are</b><b>better. And most importantly, my lab</b><b>work is showing that</b><b>hopefully my health is better. I</b><b>would like to continue with what I'm</b><b>doing. She said that if</b><b>about a month goes by and I do not, I</b><b>hit a plateau and don't lose any more</b><b>weight, that I should get</b><b>in touch with her office about</b><b>perhaps repeating a lab and perhaps</b><b>increasing the dose. But right</b><b>now I'm going to stay where I am.</b><b>Have you noticed any change in your</b><b>hair, skin, or nails?</b><b>I would say no. No, I would say</b><b>that's about the same right now. I</b><b>don't see a big difference.</b><b>One thing I can say is that I was</b><b>someone that was constantly running</b><b>to the bathroom everywhere I</b><b>was. I'd be, I have to pee, I have to</b><b>pee. And that's happening less. And</b><b>my doctor said, and</b><b>you know, Dr. Pepe, you're an</b><b>endocrinologist. Maybe you can help</b><b>validate this as well. She</b><b>said that maybe as my sugar level has</b><b>gone down the glucose level, the need</b><b>to urinate has changed.</b><b>I wouldn't expect that. No, not for</b><b>the type of blood sugar issues that</b><b>you had, but maybe you're</b><b>drinking less. You know, you're</b><b>eating less. Yeah, could be. Yeah, it</b><b>could be. How about your mood?</b><b>Did it affect your mood at all? I</b><b>mean, your mood seems pretty good. I think the only effect I see</b><b>is feeling very happy about how it's</b><b>going. It's a little bit going from</b><b>feeling so out of control</b><b>about something to feeling like</b><b>having a little bit more control. And</b><b>I think that can only help</b><b>somebody's mood. And I feel good. It</b><b>makes me feel like we talked about</b><b>the caretaker situation.</b><b>This makes me feel that I'm taking</b><b>care of myself better, which of</b><b>course makes me more able to</b><b>care for other people as well. So my</b><b>mood's been great. How about sleep?</b><b>Any change in your sleeping?</b><b>So far, I don't see a change. I sleep</b><b>relatively well. So I don't see</b><b>myself having a problem with</b><b>sleep. I don't feel excessively</b><b>tired. I wouldn't say I feel like I</b><b>have a little bit more energy.</b><b>So that's a good thing. But I would</b><b>not say my sleep and per se has been</b><b>affected very much.</b><b>All right. I think what we'll want to</b><b>do is catch up with you again in a</b><b>couple of more weeks.</b><b>You said that you're not going to</b><b>increase your dose, but at this rate,</b><b>you know, there's going</b><b>to be further weight loss and it'll</b><b>be great to see how, you</b><b>know, your body's reacting,</b><b>how you're reacting and see how your</b><b>goals may change and maybe your</b><b>lifestyle as well.</b><b>Definitely. Yeah. So you were saying</b><b>that you think that there were a few</b><b>little bumps. What</b><b>were those bumps? They had nothing to</b><b>do with the ozimpic itself. It had to</b><b>do with the system</b><b>around getting the ozimpic. So one</b><b>thing was I was out of town visiting</b><b>my son. I went to use</b><b>the ozimpic pen and perhaps I somehow</b><b>missed the information. It comes with</b><b>four needles. You attach</b><b>a different needle each time. It</b><b>comes with six of those, but there</b><b>are only four doses in each pen.</b><b>Somehow I missed that fact. I was out</b><b>of town, went to use the ozimpic and</b><b>the pen was empty.</b><b>So what I ended up doing was it's a</b><b>little tricky to get sometimes, but I</b><b>use a very well-known</b><b>pharmacy. I was able to contact a</b><b>pharmacy where I was. They actually</b><b>had me go to their setting</b><b>in a hospital because they said the</b><b>hospital pharmacy might be more</b><b>likely to have it.</b><b>So I was able to get it, but that's</b><b>just a little tip. There's four</b><b>doses, even though there's six</b><b>needles. The other bump has to do</b><b>with insurance. I went to get the pen</b><b>refilled. I do it all</b><b>virtually and then I go pick it up,</b><b>but I got an email saying it wasn't</b><b>covered. I had to get</b><b>another pre-authorization. I'm</b><b>currently waiting for the</b><b>pre-authorization.</b><b>The insurance company</b><b>said at the beginning of the calendar</b><b>year, you need to do that. So I am</b><b>hoping I'll have my</b><b>ozimpic by this Friday, but we'll</b><b>see. Okay. Let me run an idea past</b><b>you. I was reading about</b><b>from another doctor that the big</b><b>problem that happens to a lot of</b><b>people is when they</b><b>can't get the medicine, they can't</b><b>afford it, or they decide to stop it</b><b>or something along those</b><b>lines. They gain their weight back.</b><b>The reason that most experts are</b><b>saying, "Well, because you've</b><b>gotten spoiled using an injection</b><b>instead of the self-control that you</b><b>might get if you were on a</b><b>weight watchers or some other</b><b>behavioral type of program," that</b><b>because people using the injections</b><b>that they don't have that, they go</b><b>right back to their old habits. So</b><b>one of the suggestions by</b><b>this particular physician was maybe</b><b>people using injections should only</b><b>use it every other week</b><b>so that on the off week, they know</b><b>that they have to keep an eye on</b><b>their lifestyle and behavior.</b><b>They can't slip back into their old</b><b>bad habits. And maybe that by doing</b><b>it every other week or</b><b>sort of an intermittent schedule,</b><b>that they can combine the</b><b>good part of the injections</b><b>without bringing in the bad part of</b><b>the lack of lifestyle motivation.</b><b>Does that sound at all practical from</b><b>your point of view?</b><b>Yeah. Everything about weight loss is</b><b>so complicated, isn't</b><b>it? And I think my honest</b><b>question is, I'd love to address that</b><b>in the future. Right now,</b><b>I don't know. I'd like to</b><b>continue with what I'm doing. When I</b><b>hopefully lose more weight, and it</b><b>comes down to a question</b><b>of, "Do I keep doing this forever? Do</b><b>I stop it? Do I do it</b><b>intermittently?" I</b><b>think I would think</b><b>about it more then. So I don't know.</b><b>My understanding in</b><b>some of the things I read</b><b>is that it affects a part of your</b><b>brain that has to do with cravings</b><b>and things like that.</b><b>So if that's true, it makes me a</b><b>little worried about what would</b><b>happen if I wasn't taking it</b><b>anymore. On the other hand, maybe</b><b>it's reinforcing enough and every</b><b>other week is a great way to go.</b><b>So I'd like to think about that. You</b><b>raise a very interesting question</b><b>that I don't give a lot of</b><b>thought to. Well, we're all learning</b><b>together. It's a relatively new</b><b>approach to an old problem.</b><b>So thanks again, Susie. To use an</b><b>expression, it's a</b><b>lot of food for thought.</b><b>[laughter]</b><b>Corny. Hey, that's another pun,</b><b>right? Anyway, so great speaking to</b><b>you, and let's arrange</b><b>our next session in a few weeks. Hey</b><b>there. So that about</b><b>wraps up our episode on Susie</b><b>Stotzozimpic in her third month now.</b><b>And I hope you enjoyed it and got</b><b>something out of it. And</b><b>we're very proud of Susie that she's</b><b>doing so well and</b><b>she's very articulate about</b><b>her process and the ups and downs</b><b>that inevitably occur in such a</b><b>situation. And I was recently</b><b>impressed with a news story that I</b><b>saw about people who were using</b><b>Ozimpic and losing their hair.</b><b>And having been an endocrinologist</b><b>for 30 years, it was clear to me that</b><b>this could be a hormonal</b><b>issue that people can run into using</b><b>these powerful</b><b>medications. And also the weight loss</b><b>itself is associated with a lot of</b><b>bodily changes that could impact the</b><b>person in such a way. Hair,</b><b>skin and nails are very sensitive to</b><b>weight loss. So I'm doing a show on</b><b>that and you can find that</b><b>on my YouTube channel Metabolism123.</b><b>And click on our show and subscribe.</b><b>Any little bit helps.</b><b>We're a very small channel and we're</b><b>very well kept secret, which I'd like</b><b>to fix. Thanks a lot.</b><b>[Music]</b>