{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":25.5,"endTime":27.9,"body":"Aloha mai kakou,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":25.5,"endTime":27.9,"body":"welcome to a new episode of What"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":27.9,"endTime":31.229999999999997,"body":"School You Went? where we start"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":27.9,"endTime":31.229999999999997,"body":"every conversation with this"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":31.229999999999997,"endTime":34.230000000000004,"body":"question because that's the"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":31.229999999999997,"endTime":34.230000000000004,"body":"question that a lot of us ask"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":34.26,"endTime":37.769999999999996,"body":"when we just meet strangers or"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":34.26,"endTime":37.769999999999996,"body":"anyone else. I'm Ron Mizutani,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":37.8,"endTime":41.82,"body":"and today we're talking about"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":37.8,"endTime":41.82,"body":"one of Hawaii's... I'll say"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":41.849999999999994,"endTime":45.81,"body":"once-hidden gems because we're"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":41.849999999999994,"endTime":45.81,"body":"talking about Glass Beach on"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":45.81,"endTime":49.14,"body":"Kauai and I say once-hidden"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":45.81,"endTime":49.14,"body":"because of social media and has"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":49.14,"endTime":52.650000000000006,"body":"fully, really exposed this"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":49.14,"endTime":52.650000000000006,"body":"unique shoreline on Kauai's"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":52.650000000000006,"endTime":55.260000000000005,"body":"south shore. I want to welcome"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":52.650000000000006,"endTime":55.260000000000005,"body":"back my dear friend, Olena Heu"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":55.260000000000005,"endTime":59.28,"body":"to the conversation. Olena is an"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":55.260000000000005,"endTime":59.28,"body":"award-winning journalist, a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":59.28,"endTime":62.489999999999995,"body":"television personality, she is"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":59.28,"endTime":62.489999999999995,"body":"an entrepreneur, Marketing and"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":62.489999999999995,"endTime":66.27,"body":"Communications executive, and a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":62.489999999999995,"endTime":66.27,"body":"former Miss Kauai and Miss"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":66.27,"endTime":67.59,"body":"Hawaii. Welcome back."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":67.77,"endTime":68.64,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":68.85,"endTime":73.74,"body":"Olena grew up on"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":68.85,"endTime":73.74,"body":"the Kapa'a side of the island."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":73.8,"endTime":74.58,"body":"What school you went?"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":75.06,"endTime":78.72,"body":"Kapa'a High School."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":75.06,"endTime":78.72,"body":"But I also went to Kilauea"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":78.72,"endTime":82.25999999999999,"body":"Elementary School too, which is"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":78.72,"endTime":82.25999999999999,"body":"just this cute little charming"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":82.25999999999999,"endTime":85.67999999999999,"body":"red and white school. I MC'd May"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":82.25999999999999,"endTime":85.67999999999999,"body":"Day."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":86.52,"endTime":87.66,"body":"At Kilauea"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":86.52,"endTime":87.66,"body":"Elementary?"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":87.66,"endTime":87.92999999999999,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":88.61999999999999,"endTime":92.25,"body":"You know, so funny"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":88.61999999999999,"endTime":92.25,"body":"because Kauai has, well, three"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":92.31,"endTime":96.08999999999999,"body":"high schools, right? I know"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":92.31,"endTime":96.08999999999999,"body":"there are other schools, smaller"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":96.08999999999999,"endTime":99.99,"body":"private, Christian schools and"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":96.08999999999999,"endTime":99.99,"body":"such, but either you went to"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":100.05,"endTime":104.03999999999999,"body":"Kapa'a, Kauai High, or Waimea."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":104.1,"endTime":104.67,"body":"Correct,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":104.38,"endTime":109.06,"body":"Right? So sports"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":104.38,"endTime":109.06,"body":"season, you guys played Kauai"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":109.06,"endTime":114.75999999999999,"body":"High, the Red Raiders, and then"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":109.06,"endTime":114.75999999999999,"body":"the menehune of Waimea over and"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":114.78999999999999,"endTime":115.92999999999999,"body":"over and over."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":116.83,"endTime":119.74,"body":"Although my husband"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":116.83,"endTime":119.74,"body":"played baseball and football for"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":119.74,"endTime":123.91,"body":"Kaiser on Oahu, and he remembers"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":119.74,"endTime":123.91,"body":"flying to Kauai and staying in"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":123.91,"endTime":129.64000000000001,"body":"the Kapa'a high school gym and"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":123.91,"endTime":129.64000000000001,"body":"smashing them in football. He"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":129.64000000000001,"endTime":132.64000000000001,"body":"always talks about it. But not"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":129.64000000000001,"endTime":132.64000000000001,"body":"during my years because my"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":132.64000000000001,"endTime":133.6,"body":"years, we were killing it."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":133.63,"endTime":134.11,"body":"Oh, really?"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":134.11,"endTime":134.53,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":135.55,"endTime":138.7,"body":"I'm not gonna ask."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":135.55,"endTime":138.7,"body":"Because that's rude. Never ask a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":138.7,"endTime":140.14000000000001,"body":"woman her..."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":140.17000000000002,"endTime":141.61,"body":"There are nines in"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":140.17000000000002,"endTime":141.61,"body":"there."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":144.1,"endTime":146.41,"body":"We pretty much"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":144.1,"endTime":146.41,"body":"figured that out. You know, I"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":146.41,"endTime":149.68,"body":"want to take us instead of"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":146.41,"endTime":149.68,"body":"Kapa'a on the other side, if you"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":149.68,"endTime":155.32,"body":"will, of the Garden Island, all"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":149.68,"endTime":155.32,"body":"the way to 'Ele'ele. And it was"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":155.32,"endTime":160.63,"body":"once a hidden gem. 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Sadly, you're"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":233.01999999999998,"endTime":239.59,"body":"right, because, you know,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":233.01999999999998,"endTime":239.59,"body":"ironically, it's made of because"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":239.59,"endTime":243.91,"body":"of garbage. And of humans"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":239.59,"endTime":243.91,"body":"garbage. And now humans are"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":244.06,"endTime":247.75,"body":"taking it away, if you will. And"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":244.06,"endTime":247.75,"body":"there's some irony in there. 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It was just the"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":262.12,"endTime":265.39,"body":"sugarcane fields back then. But"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":265.39,"endTime":269.29,"body":"I got I was aware, I was made"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":265.39,"endTime":269.29,"body":"aware of glass beach by a good"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":269.29,"endTime":273.31,"body":"friend, Dickie Chang. And he"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":269.29,"endTime":273.31,"body":"said, they used to call me Duke,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":273.52,"endTime":277.03,"body":"\"brother Duke, we go glass beach"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":273.52,"endTime":277.03,"body":"for your segment,\" I was doing a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":277.03,"endTime":280.48,"body":"segment on hidden gems in the"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":277.03,"endTime":280.48,"body":"islands. 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But"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":885.49,"endTime":889.6,"body":"we'd always stop at Lappert's on"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":889.6,"endTime":895.51,"body":"the way to Waimea and then head"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":889.6,"endTime":895.51,"body":"up to Koke'e. And I loved New"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":895.51,"endTime":898.9,"body":"Kids on the Block when I was a"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":895.51,"endTime":898.9,"body":"kid. And I remember at the"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":898.9,"endTime":903.22,"body":"Waimea Canyon look out there was"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":898.9,"endTime":903.22,"body":"a picture of the New Kids on the"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":903.22,"endTime":909.76,"body":"Block. And I would go and like"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":903.22,"endTime":909.76,"body":"hug the railing to feel like I"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":909.76,"endTime":910.87,"body":"was close to them or something."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":910.87,"endTime":912.1,"body":"Somebody put a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":910.87,"endTime":912.1,"body":"picture there?"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":912.31,"endTime":915.46,"body":"No like they had gone"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":912.31,"endTime":915.46,"body":"to Kaua'i and taken a picture"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":915.46,"endTime":916.63,"body":"and I had the poster."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":916.66,"endTime":917.05,"body":"Oh my Gosh."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":917.08,"endTime":919.6899999999999,"body":"And so I went to"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":917.08,"endTime":919.6899999999999,"body":"where they stood. And that was"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":919.6899999999999,"endTime":922.57,"body":"my closest like the closest I"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":919.6899999999999,"endTime":922.57,"body":"got to New Kids on the Block."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":923.23,"endTime":925.57,"body":"Yeah, girls. Crazy puberty."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":925.6,"endTime":932.68,"body":"Boy bands. I, I"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":925.6,"endTime":932.68,"body":"would encourage people if they"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":932.68,"endTime":936.46,"body":"have a chance to go to 'Ele'ele."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":932.68,"endTime":936.46,"body":"Do you think they're still some"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":936.46,"endTime":937.18,"body":"glass there?"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":937.87,"endTime":941.23,"body":"Very little. I mean,"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":937.87,"endTime":941.23,"body":"I pulled up some photos from"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":941.23,"endTime":945.25,"body":"June. And it just looked like"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":941.23,"endTime":945.25,"body":"nothing really like you really,"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":945.25,"endTime":946.81,"body":"really, really have to look for"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":945.25,"endTime":946.81,"body":"it."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":946.96,"endTime":949.93,"body":"Oh, I'm so sorry."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":946.96,"endTime":949.93,"body":"I'm so sorry. I'm really sad by"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":949.93,"endTime":952.45,"body":"that. My chair just fell down."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":954.7,"endTime":955.39,"body":"I was like, oh."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":957.57,"endTime":961.753,"body":"You know, but we"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":957.57,"endTime":961.753,"body":"learn, and I think there's a"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":961.846,"endTime":967.89,"body":"lesson learned there is take"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":961.846,"endTime":967.89,"body":"what you need, or don't take at all."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":967.89,"endTime":970.432,"body":"When you know,"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":967.89,"endTime":970.432,"body":"there's a lot of talk about"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":970.493,"endTime":974.126,"body":"don't ever take like lava rocks"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":970.493,"endTime":974.126,"body":"or whatever. Just don't take"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":974.186,"endTime":978.061,"body":"anything. Just leave everything"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":974.186,"endTime":978.061,"body":"as is, take your garbage and you"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":978.122,"endTime":981.21,"body":"know, whatever. But leave it as"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":978.122,"endTime":981.21,"body":"you found it. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":982.47,"endTime":984.51,"body":"Nobody can see me"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":982.47,"endTime":984.51,"body":"in podcast land. But here"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":984.33,"endTime":986.79,"body":"I don't know what"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":984.33,"endTime":986.79,"body":"happened to your chair."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":988.5,"endTime":990.741,"body":"It instantly"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":988.5,"endTime":990.741,"body":"became very short. Well, again,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":990.792,"endTime":993.696,"body":"thanks for stopping by and"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":990.792,"endTime":993.696,"body":"sharing your memories of glass"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":993.747,"endTime":997.11,"body":"beach. And really, sadly, this"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":993.747,"endTime":997.11,"body":"is probably just a lot of memories."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":997.11,"endTime":998.61,"body":"Just a memory. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":998.61,"endTime":1000.881,"body":"Oh, boy. Well, I"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":998.61,"endTime":1000.881,"body":"don't want to I don't want to"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1000.931,"endTime":1001.82,"body":"end on a sad note."},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":1003.53,"endTime":1006.897,"body":"Go and support the"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":1003.53,"endTime":1006.897,"body":"local artists. Because there's"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":1006.966,"endTime":1011.433,"body":"lots of artists on that side and"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":1006.966,"endTime":1011.433,"body":"the little eateries and gosh, so"},{"speaker":"Olena Heu","startTime":1011.501,"endTime":1013.22,"body":"many great places to see."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1013.22,"endTime":1016.1899999999999,"body":"Yeah, for sure."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1013.22,"endTime":1016.1899999999999,"body":"And you know, maybe take a drive"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1016.252,"endTime":1019.965,"body":"down to 'Ele'ele and head down"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1016.252,"endTime":1019.965,"body":"there and see if there's some"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1020.027,"endTime":1023.306,"body":"glass left on glass beach."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1020.027,"endTime":1023.306,"body":"Olena, please take care of"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1023.368,"endTime":1027.02,"body":"yourself. Mahalo for joining us."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":1023.368,"endTime":1027.02,"body":"Until next time.a hui hou."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1028.16,"endTime":1031.434,"body":"What School You Went?"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1028.16,"endTime":1031.434,"body":"is a PBS Hawaii Production."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1031.501,"endTime":1035.578,"body":"Music by Taimane Gardner. If you"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1031.501,"endTime":1035.578,"body":"enjoyed this episode, let us"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1035.644,"endTime":1039.855,"body":"know on Facebook, Instagram and"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1035.644,"endTime":1039.855,"body":"Twitter, and tell your friends."},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1039.921,"endTime":1044.6000000000001,"body":"You can find us on pbshawaii.org"},{"speaker":"Announcer","startTime":1039.921,"endTime":1044.6000000000001,"body":"and everywhere you get your podcasts."}]}