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First up, where"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":45.15,"endTime":48.599999999999994,"body":"is Morgan's Corner, which"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":45.15,"endTime":48.599999999999994,"body":"location was named after Dr."},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":48.599999999999994,"endTime":52.83,"body":"James Morgan, who lived on a"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":48.599999999999994,"endTime":52.83,"body":"hairpin turn of Nuuanu Pali Road"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":52.86,"endTime":58.019999999999996,"body":"during the 1920s and 40s. His"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":52.86,"endTime":58.019999999999996,"body":"neighbor, Mrs. Therese Wilder,"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":58.05,"endTime":63.45,"body":"was a 68 year old widow, who"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":58.05,"endTime":63.45,"body":"lived there alone at 3939 Nuuanu"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":63.45,"endTime":68.64,"body":"Pali Road. Back in 1948, two"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":63.45,"endTime":68.64,"body":"escaped prisoners murdered Mrs."},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":68.64,"endTime":73.02,"body":"Therese Wilder in her home."},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":68.64,"endTime":73.02,"body":"According to police reports, the"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":73.02,"endTime":77.01,"body":"suspects bound and gagged her"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":73.02,"endTime":77.01,"body":"and left her unconscious on her"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":77.01,"endTime":81.06,"body":"bed. She died of suffocation due"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":77.01,"endTime":81.06,"body":"to a broken jaw, and from the"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":81.06,"endTime":84.21,"body":"gag that was placed tightly"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":81.06,"endTime":84.21,"body":"around her neck and her mouth."},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":84.72,"endTime":87.75,"body":"The men were captured a few days"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":84.72,"endTime":87.75,"body":"later, but the case continued to"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":87.75,"endTime":91.61999999999999,"body":"horrify Honolulu and really"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":87.75,"endTime":91.61999999999999,"body":"began that lengthy debate over"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":91.61999999999999,"endTime":95.67,"body":"capital punishment in Hawaii. So"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":91.61999999999999,"endTime":95.67,"body":"I ask you, what about the"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":95.67,"endTime":98.58,"body":"question of the man hanging from"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":95.67,"endTime":98.58,"body":"the tree? We've all heard our"},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":98.58,"endTime":101.97,"body":"own versions of Morgan's Corner."},{"speaker":"Corner","startTime":98.58,"endTime":101.97,"body":"Well, you may have heard this"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":101.97,"endTime":105.6,"body":"a young couple who had"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":101.97,"endTime":105.6,"body":"parked under a large tree late"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":105.6,"endTime":109.77,"body":"one night on old Nuuanu Pali"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":105.6,"endTime":109.77,"body":"Drive when it was time to leave,"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":110.22,"endTime":114.36,"body":"their car would not start. The"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":110.22,"endTime":114.36,"body":"boy decided to go for help,"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":114.63,"endTime":119.31,"body":"leaving his girl alone inside"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":114.63,"endTime":119.31,"body":"the car. It was a windy night"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":119.36999999999999,"endTime":123.3,"body":"and the long branches of that"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":119.36999999999999,"endTime":123.3,"body":"tree started scraping against"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":123.3,"endTime":128.04,"body":"the car's roof. Eventually, the"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":123.3,"endTime":128.04,"body":"girl fell asleep, only to be"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":128.04,"endTime":132.15,"body":"awakened in the morning by"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":128.04,"endTime":132.15,"body":"police surrounding her car. They"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":132.15,"endTime":136.92000000000002,"body":"asked her to get out and told"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":132.15,"endTime":136.92000000000002,"body":"her \"don't look back.\" She told"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":136.92000000000002,"endTime":141.21,"body":"them what had happened. But"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":136.92000000000002,"endTime":141.21,"body":"curiosity made her turn back."},{"speaker":"story","startTime":141.99,"endTime":145.2,"body":"She was horrified to see her"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":141.99,"endTime":145.2,"body":"boyfriend hanging upside down"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":145.2,"endTime":150.18,"body":"from the branches of that tree,"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":145.2,"endTime":150.18,"body":"his fingertips were scraping the"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":150.18,"endTime":155.04,"body":"roof of that car as his body"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":150.18,"endTime":155.04,"body":"swayed in the wind. It was not"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":155.04,"endTime":157.56,"body":"the tree that she had heard"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":155.04,"endTime":157.56,"body":"scratching the roof of the car"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":157.56,"endTime":162.75,"body":"that night. But what was it?"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":157.56,"endTime":162.75,"body":"That tree is at the trailhead to"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":162.75,"endTime":165.24,"body":"the Judd Memorial trail that"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":162.75,"endTime":165.24,"body":"leads to Jackass Ginger"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":165.24,"endTime":169.47,"body":"waterfall, just the short"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":165.24,"endTime":169.47,"body":"distance away from Mrs. Wilder's"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":169.47,"endTime":173.04,"body":"old residence. Her house is no"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":169.47,"endTime":173.04,"body":"longer standing but a gated"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":173.04,"endTime":178.85999999999999,"body":"community continues to use that"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":173.04,"endTime":178.85999999999999,"body":"same address. I want to welcome"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":178.85999999999999,"endTime":181.79999999999998,"body":"my dear friend Stephanie Sofos"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":178.85999999999999,"endTime":181.79999999999998,"body":"to this conversation. Stephanie"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":181.79999999999998,"endTime":185.54999999999998,"body":"is an author, consultant and"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":181.79999999999998,"endTime":185.54999999999998,"body":"real estate diva, longtime real"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":185.54999999999998,"endTime":189.06,"body":"estate broker and appraiser and"},{"speaker":"story","startTime":185.54999999999998,"endTime":189.06,"body":"my very, very dear friend."},{"speaker":"story","startTime":189.06,"endTime":192.06,"body":"Steph, welcome to the program."},{"speaker":"story","startTime":189.06,"endTime":192.06,"body":"It's good to have you here."},{"speaker":"First thing first","startTime":192.09,"endTime":193.56,"body":"what school"},{"speaker":"First thing first","startTime":192.09,"endTime":193.56,"body":"you went?"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":193.82999999999998,"endTime":195.72,"body":"St. Andrews"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":193.82999999999998,"endTime":195.72,"body":"Priory and the University of"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":195.72,"endTime":196.14,"body":"Hawaii."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":196.41,"endTime":200.91,"body":"Priory. Back in"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":196.41,"endTime":200.91,"body":"the day, Priory back then was an"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":200.91,"endTime":202.35,"body":"all girls school, correct?"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":203.04,"endTime":206.31,"body":"Yeah. And the"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":203.04,"endTime":206.31,"body":"Iolani boys were a little"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":206.31,"endTime":208.26,"body":"boring, the St. Louis boys were"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":206.31,"endTime":208.26,"body":"pretty fun."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":208.95,"endTime":210.63,"body":"You know, my son"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":208.95,"endTime":210.63,"body":"is an Iolani graduate, I'll let"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":210.63,"endTime":215.19,"body":"them know that. So I gotta ask"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":210.63,"endTime":215.19,"body":"you. I'm sure you've heard your"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":215.19,"endTime":218.97,"body":"share of ghost stories in real"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":215.19,"endTime":218.97,"body":"estate for so many years."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":219.18,"endTime":222.42,"body":"Morgan's Corner no different."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":219.18,"endTime":222.42,"body":"Your stories that you've heard,"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":222.42,"endTime":223.53,"body":"or a story that you've heard?"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":223.79999999999998,"endTime":226.92,"body":"Well, what's"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":223.79999999999998,"endTime":226.92,"body":"interesting is I went to school"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":226.95,"endTime":231.39,"body":"with the great granddaughter of"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":226.95,"endTime":231.39,"body":"the lady who died. The two girls"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":231.87,"endTime":236.54999999999998,"body":"are the daughters of Dr. Andrew"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":231.87,"endTime":236.54999999999998,"body":"Morgan. And I think he was the"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":236.54999999999998,"endTime":242.64,"body":"son of or the grandson of Mrs."},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":236.54999999999998,"endTime":242.64,"body":"Morgan. And so they had told me"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":242.64,"endTime":245.82,"body":"stories like that. But you know,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":242.64,"endTime":245.82,"body":"when you're younger you try not,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":245.85,"endTime":248.13,"body":"when you're driving up to"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":245.85,"endTime":248.13,"body":"Nuuanu, you try not to think"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":248.13,"endTime":251.7,"body":"about things like that. So I"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":248.13,"endTime":251.7,"body":"have heard those stories before,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":252.35999999999999,"endTime":257.40000000000003,"body":"from the family members, and"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":252.35999999999999,"endTime":257.40000000000003,"body":"nobody can explain what"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":257.40000000000003,"endTime":261.33,"body":"happened. I don't know about"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":257.40000000000003,"endTime":261.33,"body":"that fellow hanging there. I"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":261.36,"endTime":267.27,"body":"heard that story. But I do know,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":261.36,"endTime":267.27,"body":"and I mentioned it to you. I was"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":267.27,"endTime":272.16,"body":"told that there's three openings"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":267.27,"endTime":272.16,"body":"to the underworld. There are"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":272.19,"endTime":277.05,"body":"beliefs in the mythology of"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":272.19,"endTime":277.05,"body":"Hawaii that there's three"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":277.05,"endTime":281.61,"body":"openings and one of them is in"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":277.05,"endTime":281.61,"body":"Nuuanu over in that area. The"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":281.61,"endTime":286.38,"body":"other is in Mapunapuna where"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":281.61,"endTime":286.38,"body":"Bob's Big Boy used to be, and"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":286.38,"endTime":291.21,"body":"the other was in Kaena Point,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":286.38,"endTime":291.21,"body":"and a fourth one is in Kona. And"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":291.27,"endTime":295.26,"body":"I have had some several friends"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":291.27,"endTime":295.26,"body":"who have lived in Nuuanu and"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":295.29,"endTime":298.35,"body":"they have said they can hear the"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":295.29,"endTime":298.35,"body":"marchers. They've seen the"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":298.35,"endTime":303.69,"body":"marchers and that they have"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":298.35,"endTime":303.69,"body":"also, there was one where a"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":303.69,"endTime":306.3,"body":"young man was killed, a young"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":303.69,"endTime":306.3,"body":"Marine was killed on his"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":306.3,"endTime":309.93,"body":"motorcycle. And my friend,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":306.3,"endTime":309.93,"body":"another St. Andrews Priory"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":309.93,"endTime":314.64,"body":"graduate, was sleeping and she"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":309.93,"endTime":314.64,"body":"woke up, and this bloodied young"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":314.64,"endTime":320.43,"body":"man was standing in front of her"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":314.64,"endTime":320.43,"body":"bed, beside her bed. She could"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":320.43,"endTime":324.45,"body":"see he was translucent. And she"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":320.43,"endTime":324.45,"body":"said, \"what are you doing here?\""},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":324.45,"endTime":328.62,"body":"Because she's very spiritual."},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":324.45,"endTime":328.62,"body":"And she said, You can't be here"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":328.62,"endTime":330.93,"body":"and he was speaking, you"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":328.62,"endTime":330.93,"body":"couldn't hear him, but she could"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":330.93,"endTime":333.81,"body":"understand what he was saying."},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":330.93,"endTime":333.81,"body":"He said, Where am I? What am I"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":333.81,"endTime":338.19,"body":"doing? What happened? And she"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":333.81,"endTime":338.19,"body":"said, You died, you died, you"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":338.19,"endTime":342.87,"body":"need to go to the light, you"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":338.19,"endTime":342.87,"body":"need to go to the light. And he"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":342.87,"endTime":346.95,"body":"said, I can't find it. Where is"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":342.87,"endTime":346.95,"body":"it? She said, turn around. And"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":346.95,"endTime":350.7,"body":"look. She said, You can't be"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":346.95,"endTime":350.7,"body":"here. You need to go, you need"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":350.7,"endTime":357.75,"body":"to go. And people wonder why we"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":350.7,"endTime":357.75,"body":"drink? I could see why. So he"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":357.75,"endTime":362.61,"body":"did see the light. And he did."},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":357.75,"endTime":362.61,"body":"And I believe that we live in"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":362.88,"endTime":369.42,"body":"two realms. And there are"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":362.88,"endTime":369.42,"body":"spirits that get stuck. And"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":369.42,"endTime":372.45,"body":"sometimes they get stuck because"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":369.42,"endTime":372.45,"body":"they kill themselves. And"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":372.45,"endTime":376.77,"body":"sometimes they get stuck because"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":372.45,"endTime":376.77,"body":"it's such a tragic and fast"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":376.77,"endTime":380.01,"body":"death, that they're not quite"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":376.77,"endTime":380.01,"body":"sure. I'm always concerned about"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":380.01,"endTime":382.35,"body":"maybe that one day, I might be"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":380.01,"endTime":382.35,"body":"walking through the Outrigger"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":382.35,"endTime":385.46999999999997,"body":"Canoe Club, and where they post"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":382.35,"endTime":385.46999999999997,"body":"all the obituaries, I might see"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":385.46999999999997,"endTime":388.74,"body":"myself there, and I go, wait a"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":385.46999999999997,"endTime":388.74,"body":"minute, when did I die? I don't"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":388.74,"endTime":393.03,"body":"remember that. So these are the"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":388.74,"endTime":393.03,"body":"things I do believe that"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":393.03,"endTime":395.46,"body":"sometimes people, these spirits"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":393.03,"endTime":395.46,"body":"get stuck."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":395.67,"endTime":398.13,"body":"You know, Nuuanu"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":395.67,"endTime":398.13,"body":"is very spiritual, spiritual"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":398.13,"endTime":402.81,"body":"area. 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I only had"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":449.55,"endTime":452.85,"body":"one experience where it was,"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":453.33,"endTime":457.98,"body":"actually two experiences where I"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":453.33,"endTime":457.98,"body":"felt very uncomfortable and"},{"speaker":"Stephany Sofos","startTime":458.04,"endTime":459.21,"body":"unsafe."},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":459.96,"endTime":464.55,"body":"Without mentioning"},{"speaker":"Ron Mizutani","startTime":459.96,"endTime":464.55,"body":"names, due to privacy. 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